Kramnik's Behaviour Is Outrageous

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มี.ค. 2024
  • Vladimir Kramnik's Behaviour Has Gotten Outrageous as he reports Tykhon Cherniaiev in this Titled Tuesday chess game played on chess.com, 19th March 2024 early chess tournament. Outrageous behaviour from Vladimir Kramnik in my view.
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  • @epicchess2021
    @epicchess2021  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Live stream I found of both players playing this game! th-cam.com/video/3bj4Ovzx-Tk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=tKVLEn6kHCsEKgzf

    • @sleepyjoe9267
      @sleepyjoe9267 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shills like you will not escape justice. You think we don’t notice?

    • @sleepyjoe9267
      @sleepyjoe9267 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So you’re only argument is “Kramnik’s accusation hurts my feelings, it can’t be true.” You’re an absolute clown.

    • @sleepyjoe9267
      @sleepyjoe9267 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Something will be done with shills like you.

    • @sleepyjoe9267
      @sleepyjoe9267 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shills like you will not escape justice. Screaming.

  • @Adreno23421
    @Adreno23421 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    Kramnik should get reported and blocked for excessive use of cheater denouncing.

    • @youuuuuuuuuuutube
      @youuuuuuuuuuutube 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes because he's only trying to demotivate promising young talents at this point.

  • @ChessSniper
    @ChessSniper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +307

    The narcissism. "If I cannot think of a good move and my opponent does, it means he is cheating"
    The whole point of chess is to outthink your opponent.

    • @KvS1248
      @KvS1248 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That’s called ‘coping’. Hikaru was right 👍

    • @MMAengineer
      @MMAengineer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      the opponent is a 14year old who casually outplays first grischuk and then kramnik and after that he plays like shit again. Sure its legit (not)

    • @user-rz7rm9zj5c
      @user-rz7rm9zj5c 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ​@@MMAengineer you mean people can't play at their best all the time? 😮 But how can that be?!!!
      Btw a kid magnus beat Kasparov who is arguably the best of all time so he must've been cheating as well yes?

    • @danilowalther59
      @danilowalther59 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He only outplayed Russian Chess legends .. wait, from which country is this kid?

    • @mikecroke6078
      @mikecroke6078 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@user-rz7rm9zj5c I think he actually took a draw with Garry at 13 or 14 years old. But your point is still valid

  • @oliverl.9004
    @oliverl.9004 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Kramnik isn't playing Titled Tuesday, he's playing Entitled Tuesday

    • @zabustifu
      @zabustifu 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Or Tilted Tuesday.

  • @drinkxyz
    @drinkxyz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Cheaters use engines to inflate their egos while Kramnik uses the report system to keep his ego inflated. Really they have a lot in common.

    • @turnkit
      @turnkit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Starts to make one wonder if Kramnik had a season of cheating himself.

  • @mikecroke6078
    @mikecroke6078 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    I can picture kramnik in a dark room with different photos and newspaper clippings tacked to the wall with all kinds of crazy strings connecting everything together. Screaming “there is no Pepe Silvia!”

    • @brianinski
      @brianinski 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I see him in the bathtub with Paul Morphy arranging women's shoes along the edge of the tub singing "the king is dead"

    • @mikecroke6078
      @mikecroke6078 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@brianinski 🤣🤣🤣thanks for that mental picture. I might have nightmares tonight now.

    • @cooloutac
      @cooloutac 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that would be awesome. He is my Hero. Like batman.

  • @Kindred1a1
    @Kindred1a1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    I didn't see this move so the only way it can be seen is by an engine. Flawless logic

    • @peace2652
      @peace2652 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      For real. What a salty old man.

    • @youuuuuuuuuuutube
      @youuuuuuuuuuutube 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's not like there were a ton of moves to consider, basically: move the queen, move the knight, move the rook and move that pawn, that's it.

    • @vincentvangogh8092
      @vincentvangogh8092 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i found it with my 1795 fide rating lol so im sure a super talented kid would find it too@@youuuuuuuuuuutube

  • @kdiigx
    @kdiigx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    It’s like in his mind he’s still the world champion and it’s impossible for him to lose. Everyone must be cheating. While it’s entertaining to watch him freak out. I can’t imagine being a young player that just beat the former WC just to be called a cheater because he can’t accept reality.

  • @ImBarryScottCSS
    @ImBarryScottCSS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    I think this is what the young folk call washed??

    • @godfreyofbouillon966
      @godfreyofbouillon966 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And has been

    • @RichACBlues
      @RichACBlues 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      he is rated 3000 on the website only playing TT. came 3rd in the world blitz behind Magnus and HIkaru in 2019. He is still a super GM so its always weird when some kid more than 200 rating points below him beats him without even trying, and its always some streamer for the content. unreal...

    • @msmo6684
      @msmo6684 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no cap

  • @OvercookedOctopusFeet
    @OvercookedOctopusFeet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    No more joking around now, Kramnik needs to be shunned and rejected publicly by all top players and organisations. He is a disgrace to the game and himself. Goodbye Kramnik.

    • @xenoph9380
      @xenoph9380 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      >He is a disgrace to the game and himself.
      Sums it up perfectly. About time, someone called this out, thanks Epic Chess.

    • @ivanevenic4751
      @ivanevenic4751 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@xenoph9380 and Kasparov wasn't? Even Magnus acts like a little baby in chess tournaments. A lot of times people acted not sportsmanlike in chess... Hikaru was also acting like a baby before. When you see them how they act, sport does look like a joke. Banning Kramnik would be on the same line as banning Magnus for his tantrums after a game. He was a world champion, brought a lot of novelties into the game, you cannot just erase that.

    • @avishevin1976
      @avishevin1976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ivanevenic4751
      Accusing every player who beats you of cheating is more than just unsportsmanlike, it's actually defamation and is at least a civil tort.

    • @ifbfmto9338
      @ifbfmto9338 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ivanevenic4751The clear difference with Kramnik is…….. Kasparov/Nakamura/even Carlsen sometimes being arrogant/ being a jerk is LEGAL, versus what Kramnik has been doing by publicly defaming individuals with BASELESS cheating allegations
      And if you want to claim that Carlsen claimed Hans was a cheater……. Well, he WAS an admitted and caught cheater online (including in prize money games of the pro chess league, not just ‘meaningless’ ones)

    • @Bladieblah
      @Bladieblah 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@avishevin1976 He doesn't, Epic Chess just makes a video every time he does say something. Magnus also accused Niemann without any evidence. It's no secret many players suspect other players of cheating, Kramnik is simply more vocal about it since he's not a competitor anymore

  • @BasDirks
    @BasDirks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +266

    Kramnik has become a sad old man.

    • @dgmullin1
      @dgmullin1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Who's not even that old

    • @tommypiffington3374
      @tommypiffington3374 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sad indeed, Ukrainian kid beat you dude 😂 he was once respected

    • @spiffffffffff
      @spiffffffffff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I am afraid that Magnus beat him to that too.

    • @keithtomlinson1280
      @keithtomlinson1280 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Let’s challenge Kramnik to do puzzle rush on camera against Tykhon. Then we see where the true talent lies.

    • @MarkBaldini
      @MarkBaldini 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m so sick and tired of this asshole. Someone please sue him for defamation.

  • @Kendoom93
    @Kendoom93 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    I honestly believe that Kramnik, even if he seems calm and is obviously strong at chess, has some kind of mental illness.

    • @gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683
      @gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Narragorth That is a bad sign, you should check yourself asap, because people with mental illnesses rather view others as mentally ill individuals

    • @twoayy
      @twoayy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683die

    • @CH-tv1cy
      @CH-tv1cy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao got him ​@@gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683

    • @solinvictus6587
      @solinvictus6587 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@AndreLobov Nepo is Russian too. Like so many other great players. Don't be russophobic just because of Putin.

    • @totalcomputerdependency
      @totalcomputerdependency 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@solinvictus6587 As an Estonian, I can say it is not just because of Putin. It's because of Stalin, Lenin, Brezhnev and all the other Soviet czars who relentlessly regulated everything in my country from 1940 to 1992. It's because of the Romanovs who kept us in slavery from 1710 to 1869, and then elevated us to the status of subhuman peasant until we broke free in 1917. It's because of the countless wars fought on, and for, our terrain by foreign tyrants who wanted control of the Baltic Sea. It's because it is justified.

  • @kewkabe
    @kewkabe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Old man Kramnik wasn't raised with computers, so of course he wouldn't consider computer-like moves like the younger generation does. Tykhon has a TH-cam channel where he streams himself doing puzzles and he's lightning quick with even the most difficult computer-like problems.

    • @cooloutac
      @cooloutac 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he is 2-44 against other 2950+ TT players. a 2400 fide routinely losing to 2300s. He is not in the same league as Kramnik buddy. Maybe he got lucky, but you can't say its not strange he made that move without even trying. laughing and joking with his chat and acting like he didn't know what he was even doing. you sound crazy lmao...

  • @wiserhinoceros
    @wiserhinoceros 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm around 2100 rated and d4 was the first move I thought of. I might have rejected it, but then at this time control I'd probably have thought it was active and aggressive and played it anyway.

  • @brianinski
    @brianinski 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    I have followed this kid since he was 8 yrs old, Kramnik should be ashamed of himself.

    • @rendezvousonmemorylane
      @rendezvousonmemorylane 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      wtf stop that. 🤨

    • @TD_Geake
      @TD_Geake 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, Tikhon is a well-known prodigy, not a good look for Kramnik.

    • @MoscAmer
      @MoscAmer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The douche bag vacillates on Putin's invasion and genocide of ukrainians. His chess ego is a minor flaw in comparison.

    • @top.secret000
      @top.secret000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Narragorth😂😂

    • @tor13128
      @tor13128 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Narragorth But reporting officially and publicly on a kid without proof (without even trying to research) is behavior that should not be supported.

  • @TruthSurge
    @TruthSurge 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    so according to Vlad, no human could possibly push a pawn to distract a queen? wow. Let's DO THE PROCEDURE!

    • @trueskyte
      @trueskyte 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also the pawn blocks a retreat square for the knight that is attacked and pushing the pawn makes space for it. So to see this move at a master level shouldn't be that surprising and it's not even the top engine move...

    • @vincentvangogh8092
      @vincentvangogh8092 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i found it with just my shitty rating in my opinion he saw the game slipping away and over reacted

  • @brickwitheyes1710
    @brickwitheyes1710 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Lose, block, report, look at accuracy, repeat

    • @michaelmassaro4375
      @michaelmassaro4375 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Block Report than the Procedure

    • @brickwitheyes1710
      @brickwitheyes1710 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@michaelmassaro4375 😂I didn't even watch the vid before my comment

    • @Megamegalomane92
      @Megamegalomane92 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eat, sleep, do the procedure, repeat

    • @chriscurtain1816
      @chriscurtain1816 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Win, smile. Win, smile. Lose, moan block report. Win, smile. Lose, moan block report.

    • @garrycahilig7007
      @garrycahilig7007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      also occasionally cry in between

  • @robinwells5343
    @robinwells5343 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Kramnik needs to face some sort of disciplinary action for all this at this point. It's ridiculous

  • @jeanpaulkassdale
    @jeanpaulkassdale 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "OK, the classic procedure" 😂😂😂

  • @robertbelardo7087
    @robertbelardo7087 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    After reporting both players, kamnik went back outside to continue yelling at the clouds.

  • @joseraulcapablanca8564
    @joseraulcapablanca8564 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    i think the pawn move was good but certainlu not out of this world. The trap is one of seceral known as the Noahs Ark trap. Thanks james.

    • @epicchess2021
      @epicchess2021  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Ah that’s it thank you

    • @andreasnigl72
      @andreasnigl72 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Even i saw this move and i am only 2250.

    • @foxtrotalphaone
      @foxtrotalphaone 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@andreasnigl72 I haven't played chess since I was a kid and d4 was the only move I could think of.

    • @kamylko
      @kamylko 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andreasnigl72 because you're cheating. you know what goes now... yop, The Procedure.

    • @andreasnigl72
      @andreasnigl72 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kamylko its not so easy to cheat without a computer.But luckly that Magnus Carlson is my neighbour. 😜

  • @zaksmith1035
    @zaksmith1035 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I agree completely. Kramnik had insufficient “evidence” before, but at least one could claim that he was misinterpreting the data. Statistics is highly unintuitive, so intuitive people often get it wrong.
    But “He played a move I would never think about in a million years” isn’t any kind of evidence, even from a world champion. It’s pure hubris to assume that you can tell a high level player is cheating, even from a whole game. It requires a concrete pattern of evidence to make a case like that.

    • @mikhailkorolik7391
      @mikhailkorolik7391 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      " a move I would never think about in a million years" - Nonsense,
      as it was the first move i tried to consider, opening up space for the horse and the queen, and if i had been given more time i would play it too.

    • @cooloutac
      @cooloutac 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mikhailkorolik7391 noone would play that move against Kramnik. the website considers it an innacuracy. But its a brilliant move in blitz because its the way more complicated move to burn time, and the only one out of two moves not losing a drawn position. And its a trap and I bet if the roles were reversed, the kid would of took with pawn either losing the knight on the queen exchange, or losing the queen altogether. the more obvious move is the Nh3 check for the easier draw, instead of clearly signaligng to kramnik he is going for the flag. Now what is even weirder to me, is the kid not even concentrating on the game. laughing and joking with this chat acting confused on the Qg4 move, then looking dead pan on the d4 move as if thinking "got you" lol. His 2nd monitor was up to his left. but many times he is focusing down and to the right. The problem is its now acceptable to cheat against Kramnik for streaming content so all these kids like him who went 2-44 against 2950+ players in TT, playes extremely well against kramnik, its not surprise he is a streamer.

    • @mikhailkorolik7391
      @mikhailkorolik7391 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cooloutac, stopped reading right after “would of” phrase. Well done. I have no idea what you wrote before that anyway. Good on you

    • @RichACBlues
      @RichACBlues 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mikhailkorolik7391 stay ignorant and disingenuous then bud. The world reading is now aware of your character and your poor credibility. Good on you. Just be aware. I'm not even a 1000 rated player and thats how easy it is for me to use an engine and analyze the position. And i'm supposed to believe someone like you can't? hahahah The one thing chess communities have mistakenly done for 100s of years, is assume society is too dumb to understand chess, when chess communities are too dumb to realize that all sports share the same basic principles. But this online community doesn't even represent the chess world where Kramnik is on the fair play board with FIDE, where The ceo of the wbsite is Crying FIDE cut all ties with them and they can't get sponsorships to host tournaments and he will bail from the company in 5 years. Keep acting like Kramnik is the problem when he is only trying to save what people like you have already destroyed. But the bigger problem is it threatens to destroy otb chess along with it.

    • @cooloutac
      @cooloutac 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      reporting people cause you don't like their opinion is cheating at a debate online like its safe to assume you cheat in online chess. It must pain you to know even a 400 rated lichess player can use an engine and analyze a position. Noone is going to believe you cant, but if you want to stay ignorant then so be it. I accept your concession.

  • @ojibwa1994
    @ojibwa1994 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Kramnik is so paranoid...wtf

  • @michaeldiener5053
    @michaeldiener5053 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thanks for pointing this out. I agree it's ridiculous, and it's bad for chess.

  • @user-kx1xm5mb9i
    @user-kx1xm5mb9i 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    That was a bit different video - and a different tone than usual; and I love it. Love how you expressed yourself, felt not only your dissaproval of Kramnik's behaviour, but in this dissaproval - a deep love for chess and it's community.

    • @epicchess2021
      @epicchess2021  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thanks a lot yeah been a chess fan since 2007!

  • @JohnDoe-hr4xj
    @JohnDoe-hr4xj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Kramnik's attitude is tender like slow cooked chicken borscht.

  • @JS_Precision
    @JS_Precision 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It seems like Kramnik has a very hard time dealing with the evolution of chess. I feel like he accuses people of cheating because he doesn't want to accept that the game has passed him by online in the rapid/speed formats. Even Hikaru says he feels old compared to the kids now who have played online all life.

  • @WilsonDK100
    @WilsonDK100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Funny how the pressure on the white kings position mounts up, when he allows all black pieces to go from being a defender to sole attacker on the board. That happens to me as a beginner in random parrings against 2000s ten times a day. Solely because I don't see what's about to happend/not taking their presence seriously enough before it's to late. Resulting in them having unlimited amount of tries to find a way in.

  • @Timberius
    @Timberius 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you. This needed to be done, and couldn't have chosen a better case.

  • @Cyber_Elf_Elpizo
    @Cyber_Elf_Elpizo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kramnik's toxicity is that of an amateur. If he wants to be taken seriously as a troll he should instead be accusing everyone who draws or loses a game of sandbagging, rating manipulation, and pre-arranged results

  • @sesanti
    @sesanti 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I watched that stream live. He had a terrible time on each board, and accused almost every opponent he played of cheating. Even though he always tries to cover his arse by saying "It's not an accusation".

  • @edf9577
    @edf9577 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean come ON !
    I've played lots of brilliant moves before, most of them I never even knew were brilliant until the post match review. This is the behaviour of someone that's realising the game is leaving him behind.

  • @yarrichar
    @yarrichar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Once you see d4 the variations are all quick and short. And you find it by asking the question - how do I make the discovery on the f3 knight work? Wouldn't it be nice if I could play knight to d5 hitting the queen at the same time?

  • @carlosbonilla9159
    @carlosbonilla9159 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great game to see reviewed, watching the slow exploit of the dual weakness of f2 and the potential queen/king fork. And an impressive use of the word portmanteau thrown in too.

  • @Messmer4444
    @Messmer4444 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I saw it live it was ridiculous. Especially since this isn’t even the correct move order and black had a

  • @cryptonite8495
    @cryptonite8495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At his current pace of blocking everyone who's better than him, Kramnick will soon be playing only sub-2000 players. Maybe then his self-esteem will get a boost.

  • @jediahpesu6673
    @jediahpesu6673 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good on you for speaking up about this. I imagine Kramnik's opponent has studied many of Kramnik's games and probably looks up to him as a chess player. A bit sad to think one of his (maybe) heroes has so easily accused him of cheating. Kramnik should be celebrating such a move. It is certainly NOT an unthinkable move, because even my low rated mind was calculating that move before he played it. I didn't see that sequence, of course, but I did see the move. Perhaps Kramnik is too dogmatic with his move selection process and doesn't think creatively enough anymore.

  • @ariangiffgaff8942
    @ariangiffgaff8942 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just before the ultimate move queen capture knight on F3 is also good or am I missing something because if white recaptures, knight H3 check is good ?? Also if queen is left alone g2 mate is threatened

  • @itskmillz
    @itskmillz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I've been watching Peshka since he was VERY young, probably like 7 or 8 years old. That kid was a monster even at that young age, doesn't shock me at all to see him find a move like this. He is insane at puzzles, this is absolutely a move he would consider.

  • @_.alex.-
    @_.alex.- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It’s sad that he’s just become a meme now. Great vid James, justified rant, part of me does wonder whether he IS going to do damage or just end up becoming the mad old cat lady of chess.

  • @usptact
    @usptact 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kramnik: ok... let's do the procedure...

  • @justsomeboyprobablydressed9579
    @justsomeboyprobablydressed9579 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These playing platforms should have a rule that you're not allowed to make a public accusation. Kramnik has a right to report, but he makes a point to purposely do it on stream. In fact, I think that is the main reason he is streaming--not to play chess but to make public accusations of cheating.

  • @daviddurbin7682
    @daviddurbin7682 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Oh. I see Kramnik is talking about pokemon. Not chess. I understand now why he hates cheaters

    • @mikecroke6078
      @mikecroke6078 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Gotta catch em all I suppose

  • @TimetoCheckmate
    @TimetoCheckmate 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great move, but its not impossible to spot. White just weakened his Knight by going g3 and with Blacks Queen allready attacking the Knight and the Rook beeing only blocked by his own Knight its pretty obvious to check where the Knight could go to. Making room for the Knight with d4 isnt easy to spot but you dont need to be a super grandmaster to find such a move, if you ask the right questions.
    So sad to see Krammnik beeing paranoid.

  • @mhm2908
    @mhm2908 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well I saw the move, but only after I was told to look for a great move of course.

  • @willesnille
    @willesnille 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The are repercussions for Kramnik though. With randoms behaving similarly it can be frustrating if theres no penalty. The penalty for Kramnik is that his legacy WAS that he was one of the chess greats; the guy who dethroned the player some still consider the GoAT. Now he's a punchline. edit:spelling

    • @threethrushes
      @threethrushes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ironically, his chess lines lack punch.

    • @spartanthe300ththermopylae4
      @spartanthe300ththermopylae4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @threethrushes Ironically, you are the epitome of a Dunning - Kruger effect sufferer.

    • @spartanthe300ththermopylae4
      @spartanthe300ththermopylae4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @threethrushes Ironically, what you wrote is the epitome of a Dunning - Kruger sufferer

  • @publicanimal
    @publicanimal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't even see how it would be possible to cheat in 3 minute blitz unless you had a friend putting all the moves into the engine for you, and even then, the amount of time you would spend getting the engine moves would make it likely that you would lose on time. I suppose it is feasible that a player could do that for a small number of moves, but it seems highly unlikely on its face. The stridency of his accusation is outrageous.

  • @boohoohoohoo
    @boohoohoohoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is like a girl crying false rp and getting a slap on the wrist for it.

  • @BWOOHAHAHAAA
    @BWOOHAHAHAAA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What was he thinking with that g3 move?

  • @Krampus676
    @Krampus676 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Totally agree James! You can’t just simply insinuate cheating without proof!

  • @MarkBaldini
    @MarkBaldini 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you play Kramnik, you already have it in your head that he is going to call you a cheater if you win. It’s extremely distracting for anyone who sees his name pop up as their opponent.
    Kramnik needs to be banned immediately and sued for defamation. This shit has to stop. I have less and less respect for the chess world with this guy is still allowed to compete.
    In any other sport, you would have been banned by now or sued for defamation, and any legitimate organization would not touch you

  • @brianmccormick8328
    @brianmccormick8328 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Kramnik only loses if they cheat. Weird how that works.

  • @Romans8-9
    @Romans8-9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why was pawn d4 excellent? In game review the engine calls it an inaccuracy. Also, you would think if Peshka was cheating he would have just played the top move not an inaccuracy.

    • @davidhale8034
      @davidhale8034 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He covered that, it was just a different move order.

    • @Romans8-9
      @Romans8-9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidhale8034 Move order is everything in chess.

    • @RichACBlues
      @RichACBlues 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      because its a trap. If he takes with pawn he loses knight on the queen exchange or loses his queen altogether. it also complicating an already difficult drawn position, and signaling to kramnik he is going for a win instead of draw. what is very strange is that the kid was not even trying and acting confused to his audience when he played qg4 and then d4. Its possible he chose the 2nd best move, the only other move not losing, thinking it would make him look less suspicious, and it actually did the opposite.

    • @Romans8-9
      @Romans8-9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RichACBlues Cheaters are not going to look for 2nd best move in a blitz game, to "not look suspicious". Even EC thinks this accusation is ridiculous.

  • @leshommesdupilly
    @leshommesdupilly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro, the "Kramnik Procedure" has killed me XD

  • @garrycahilig7007
    @garrycahilig7007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    at this point it already has a reverse effect. being labeled as a cheater by kramnik is already considered an honor amongst chess players

  • @CarlDidur
    @CarlDidur 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    303 comments so I don't know if anyone else mentioned that the "Fishing Pole" involves sacking a black night to open up the h file in another context, I think, not this bishop cornering theme. Thanks again for the vids.

    • @epicchess2021
      @epicchess2021  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks yeah apparently it is Noah’s ark i was mixing up for sure!

    • @theearth4529
      @theearth4529 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sacking a black night is what I do before the exams

    • @CarlDidur
      @CarlDidur 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for correcting me in the form of a pun! Value added. *Knight* aka *horse*@@theearth4529

  • @trentvlak
    @trentvlak 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Time to send Kramnik to the front lines.

  • @jonass-j2949
    @jonass-j2949 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kramnik needs to be shunned and rejected publicly by all top players and organisations. He is a disgrace to the game and himself. Goodbye Kramnik.

  • @clivethereddevil3178
    @clivethereddevil3178 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    at 4:18 after Re1 it may even be better just to take the rook. Black will still pick up the queen after ...Ne2 + but he will even make a mess of white's pawns in the process.

  • @waliaphellps1745
    @waliaphellps1745 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Twenty years after: Kramnik blocking himself after being crushed by himself.

  • @simchazamir9285
    @simchazamir9285 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great summation at the end. Honest yet respectful opinion and spot on.

  • @Anon_581
    @Anon_581 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:25
    "okayyy let's do the procedure"
    cracks me up every time I see it 😂

  • @jeff-buri-jeff3716
    @jeff-buri-jeff3716 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Absolutely, the correct response to Kramnik’s accusations at this point is to ignore them.

    • @MarkBaldini
      @MarkBaldini 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, he needs to be held accountable. If he can’t prove that someone is cheating, then he should be banned. He should be sued for defamation, and this kid should get every fucking penny that asshole has.

    • @RichACBlues
      @RichACBlues 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MarkBaldini players shouldn't even be allowed in money events unless they can prove such performance in more secure environments or at least have aspirations to be a pro player. If they say "i'm just a streamer" as some excuse for suspicious activity that should automatically disqualify them from earning the chance to take money from career professionals imo.

  • @tylerwarden2709
    @tylerwarden2709 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trapping the bishop is the waterfall trap, fishing pole is when you allow your bishop to be captured by a pawn opening the rook file to attack a castled king

  • @RendallRen
    @RendallRen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The question I have above all is what was drunk at 6 if not beer?

    • @ozludo
      @ozludo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gin?

    • @epicchess2021
      @epicchess2021  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Haha only water alas BUT I am now going to the pub to meet a couple mates lol. I enjoy a ‘Neck Oil’ lately, nice beer here in U.K. also love a Guinness!

  • @bowrudder899
    @bowrudder899 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for highlighting this problem. Soon no one is going to want to play the boy who cries wolf.

  • @philipwarton45
    @philipwarton45 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am under 1900 and that was the first move I looked at after Nh3+, as you said they tie together. Doesn't take a genius to see this! C'mon Kramnik, you used to be so admired (rightfully so).

  • @mattkemerait
    @mattkemerait 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That poor Ukrainian kid has enough to worry about without having to deal with Kramnik's sociopathic shenanigans.

  • @JohnDuthie
    @JohnDuthie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Kramnik who cried wolf. He's an awkward baby who doesn't realize that OTB brings with it a lot more pressure than online events.

    • @theearth4529
      @theearth4529 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No it doesn't, if you are a professional who played like 1000 otb tournaments you basically get used to it

    • @RichACBlues
      @RichACBlues 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      to people streaming on camera? Already playing tou8rnament otb games to get their title in the first place? You are believing the website and streamer propaganda. nonsense.

  • @ikbrrrr
    @ikbrrrr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    His name is not Tie-on, it more of a Tea-Hone, but with a short "o", like in "lot".

  • @jacquesdespadas
    @jacquesdespadas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Someone needs to sit Vlad down and tell him “if you think everyone else is the problem, perhaps the real problem is you”.

  • @kennethwoods6525
    @kennethwoods6525 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you keep doing the same thing and expect a different result...🤔

  • @flfun2no
    @flfun2no 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gotta catchem all.

  • @jeythegrey
    @jeythegrey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Kid: The Future is now, old man!
    Kramnik: Cries, *Blocked and reported*

  • @Strikerfm1
    @Strikerfm1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s called the Noahàs Ark trap. The fishing pole is a variation of the Greek gift scarfise.

    • @ianstopher9111
      @ianstopher9111 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is certainly a version of Noah's Ark. I thought normally Black hounds the bishop with each pawn move to try and trap. Here black played an intermediate move.

  • @MrTiti
    @MrTiti 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as a young man who has been following and trying to find out, what it is about: civilization, humans, life, ... so basically philosophing about anything, back when i was single digit age, i was completely stunned how teachers could teach us: about the world, things in it, learning, civilization. coincidently, civilization 1 by Sid Meiers came out in 1991.
    the concept of the game helped me to look at things in a much more simplistic way, i could start somewhere.
    also back then on local German TV we had chess-nights.
    and then? this guy here, behaving much much less mature than probably a few % of the society in an advanced civilization did, was one of the heroes.
    and i had thought they would be 1000x more intelligent than me, having surely found out the aforementioned relations of life, civilization, humaity, things in it ...
    and now as propaganda, the internet, communication have spread their way, this man , by his comments is so affected, so much non-objectively assessing the situation in "the conflict", i cant beleive it.
    my hats off to Kasparow with his sharp comments. But what a behaviour, so leisure-like his mind has dropped to another level. and i dont mean "upwards"...
    it is not only a huge disappointment. in single digit age, you shall overcome oyur emotions and start to train rational thinking. and he has dropped below that, is taking the things as his mind likes.
    but, at least communication allows us to learn in this world, and i hope, anyone letting himself down to more "wishful" thinking, thinking the way after you feel, instead ofrational assessment ... would somehow understand and work hard on himself. being more objective is the only way.
    and we see one thing: though the western world offers much more luxury and freedom (look at companies, culture, way of living) we still see great minds, attitude. its quite the situation, the geopolitical situation in a nutshell.
    Kramnik could not accept what happened by his narrative and acted like that, which shows, that living under poorer conditions doesnt make your thinking more sober or better in a way.

  • @user-rz7rm9zj5c
    @user-rz7rm9zj5c 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I'm not even 2000 elo and i thought of that move lol please don't report and block me vlad

    • @RationalEgoism
      @RationalEgoism 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The logic is fairly simple. If you could move your knight to d5, you win a knight. Can you do it? Any GM would see it in a classical game.

    • @hugovaz777
      @hugovaz777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not natural, knight check is the play here almost always..

    • @cooloutac
      @cooloutac 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      noone would play that move against Kramnik. the website considers it an innacuracy. But its a brilliant move in blitz because its the way more complicated move to burn time, and the only one out of two moves not losing a drawn position. And its a trap and I bet if the roles were reversed, the kid would of took with pawn either losing the knight on the queen exchange, or losing the queen altogether. the more obvious move is the Kh3 check for the easier draw, instead of clearly signaligng to kramnik he is going for the flag. Now what is even weirder to me, is the kid not even concentrating on the game. laughing and joking with this chat acting confused on the Qg4 move, then looking dead pan on the d4 move as if thinking "got you" lol. The problem is its now acceptable to cheat against Kramnik for streaming content so all these kids like him who went 2-44 against 2950+ players in TT, playes extremely well against kramnik, its not surprise he is a streamer.

    • @kahvaimuri2824
      @kahvaimuri2824 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RationalEgoism Any GM, except Kramnik apparently.

    • @user-rz7rm9zj5c
      @user-rz7rm9zj5c 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hugovaz777 at that level of play you don't go for moves just because they look natural

  • @phdcmd
    @phdcmd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I noticed Tihon's nickname is "PeshkaCh". I think Peshka is the name of his Chess Club in Kharkiv. I used to play there before the invasion.

  • @diggitus
    @diggitus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reduced material on board and it's not like Black had very many ways to continue his attack. If Kramnik would never even look at this move well...that's a Kramnik problem.

  • @christopheheaven4834
    @christopheheaven4834 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He is not the only one who do that. Blocking and reporting is also a right that you have as a player. I agree, at personal level it's not the best way to handle the losses.

  • @gabrielwykle
    @gabrielwykle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I've not yet been drinking pints of beer"
    It's been 4 hours, I hope you are enjoying your evening.

  • @arupian666
    @arupian666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a shame. Kramnik used to be quite the chess hero for me in the late 90's, early 2000's. It makes my heart heavy to see what he's become.

  • @ddkapps
    @ddkapps 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is just getting ridiculous. I honestly think people should just begin resigning when they are paired with Kramnik. I don't really see any other way of countering this.

  • @-yeme-
    @-yeme- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    a clown like Kramnik accusing everyone who beats him of cheating creates the perfect environment for people to get away with cheating

  • @JoseFranciscoAlburqueque
    @JoseFranciscoAlburqueque 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    when will shamenik be banned for good?

  • @johnchappell9232
    @johnchappell9232 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its become an issue even at my level. I get hurt when I lose, and rather than appreciating my opponents skill and giving them a well played, I think oh..a cheater.
    Its not right.

  • @matthewsalzman9034
    @matthewsalzman9034 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Victory, forget old men with hard feelings.

  • @LoudWaffle
    @LoudWaffle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kramnik used to be world champ, so he genuinely was the best chess player in the world. I think as his skills have (slightly) declined and other much stronger players have risen in what is essentially the game’s golden age, his ego and evaluation of his own relative skill level never adjusted to these changes.
    He still has the thought pattern of someone who thinks he is better and smarter than everyone else. So how could he be losing so much? Must be foul play, especially from other top players. Add in some old person anciety over technology and the massive shift chess has seen onto online formats (which warrants a fair bit of legitimate scrutiny, to be fair) and you have the complete mess of a guy that Kramnik has become.
    It’s a downward spiral that his ego won’t let him recover from because he’s already decided he’s right, so anyone who is against him is either stupid or involved in the cheating.

  • @SwoopGD
    @SwoopGD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bobby Fishing over here

  • @doghouseriley4732
    @doghouseriley4732 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If he locks everyone who beats him, there will be no one left to play him................. and so he still won't win any games.

  • @health2100
    @health2100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here is a description of DELUSIONAL DISORDER
    1. An individual expresses an idea or belief with unusual persistence or force, even when evidence suggests the contrary.
    2. That idea appears to have an undue influence on the person's life, and the way of life is often altered to an inexplicable extent.
    3. Despite their profound conviction, there is often a quality of secretiveness or suspicion when the person is questioned about it.
    4. The individual tends to be humorless and oversensitive, especially about the belief.
    5. There is a quality of centrality: no matter how unlikely these strange things are to happen to the person, they accept them relatively unquestioningly.
    6. An attempt to contradict the belief will likely arouse an inappropriately strong emotional reaction, often with irritability and hostility. They will not accept any other opinions.
    7. The belief is, at the least, unlikely and out of keeping with the individual's social, cultural, and religious background.
    8. The person is emotionally over-invested in the idea, which overwhelms other elements of their psyche.
    (WIKIPEDIA, a partial quote)

  • @chrisf5828
    @chrisf5828 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is all leading up to Kramnik rationalizing using an engine in his games to level the unfair playing field.

  • @SirenGhostsong
    @SirenGhostsong 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Kramnik plays chess like a bronze FPS player. He's the best and everyone else is cheating.

    • @RichACBlues
      @RichACBlues 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hes rated 3000 on the website. I don't understand what you mean? he is like 200 rating points above this kid on and offline. which is basically a whole different league.

    • @SirenGhostsong
      @SirenGhostsong 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RichACBlues I shall explain. I was not doubting GM Kramnik's skill, just his attitude. He seems to cry cheater frequently when he gets beat. GM Hans Niemann, GM Nakamura to name a couple. The comparison I drew was just juxtaposing GM Kramnik's reaction when he loses to that of a bronze (lowest) ranked player in an FPS game.

    • @RichACBlues
      @RichACBlues 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SirenGhostsong Both Hans and Nakamura are cheaters to alot of people man. I consider them streamers more than they are pro players. Lets put it this way, Hans is lucky to get top 40 in the world blitz. Meanwhile Kramnik got 3rd behind Magnus and Hikaru in 2019 straight out of retirement lmao. He is a former world champ, top 10 player for 25 years straight and 2nd ever to reach 2800. Top 3 most influential according to magnus. He is rated 3000 on the website without farming people like Hikaru and Hans. Routinely beats guys like Levon who won the american cup, Dubov who almost tied for first with Magnus in the recent world blitz, Fabiano who is having the otb year of his life, and meanwhile all these guys routinely lose to people 200 points below them who only have a 90% chance of winning. To try and explain that with mouse movement which makes very little difference, or premoves with increments, is almost laughable. When half the people cheat online of course its natural to assume most of your opponents are too. He could literally accuse everyone and imo be right half the time. Online chess is simply a joke.

    • @SirenGhostsong
      @SirenGhostsong 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The fact that Kramnik DOESN'T PREMOVE is him figuratively throwing Elo away.
      The claims that Hans and Hikaru are cheaters is completely baseless. Kramnik should just shut up and take the L. I was annoyed at Magnus claiming Hans cheated OTB but Kramnik thinks anyone who beats him is cheating. It's ridiculous.

    • @RichACBlues
      @RichACBlues 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SirenGhostsong ya but how much elo? 50 points? loll 100? He'd still be 200 point higher rated then most of these players who play like super gms against him lol. Hans admitted to cheating, so kind of wild you call that baseless. And HIkaru literally said he stopped playing in chess24 events because of the anti cheating measures. They sent an arbiter to his house for the cct 2021 final and he blamed his terrible performance on it. Banned from a CSL tournament for being caught using his phone. A guy who sees nothing immoral or unsporting about smurfing on unsuspecting players for entertainment and ad money. A guy who also drastically overperforms online, like literally ALL smurfing streamers. Uncoincidentally. Him and Hans were two of the most toxic kids in chess history and both very disliked by their peers. Poor character no matter how you look at it and not people I would trust with a ten foot pole.

  • @pawnoir
    @pawnoir 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    La tristesse est bien plus redoutable que la vieillesse et la mort.
    _Sadness is much more terrible than old age and death._
    Encore une excellente vidéo👍

  • @ludwigchurr7744
    @ludwigchurr7744 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If he block everybody he will end up playing with himself. .or should it be.. by himself ?

    • @cooloutac
      @cooloutac 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know you kids think its so easy and accetpable to cheat and maniuplate tournament standings, because the website allows so many other things. But it would have no affect you can't block your opponents in a tournament. smh...

  • @null.dev.
    @null.dev. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wait what, you link a clip to some peshak in a different b oard setting and entirely different guy ye? so wait,k what did I miss? and what does it have to do with the game you showed? or is there a twist at the end ? edit: looked at the pinned link from livestream , ok so pershak WAS this game? ye ok, and yuou were just using a ovewrlay when recapping or so? THAT explains my confusioin ,)

  • @MitchyBoix
    @MitchyBoix 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thing Kramnik misses is the fact stockfish exists. Not that people use it in games but some people will analyse all their games, get into situations and see afterwards that the engine prefers this move in this position. So when people get those situations, they know the top engine moves. As Hikaru said before, if someone analyses and checks all their games you know how stockfish behaves and can mimic it.
    If Stockfish did not exist this way and you could not analyse games then yes Kramnik would have some valid points. This is just the info i think he really misses out on

  • @UncleDansVintageVinyl
    @UncleDansVintageVinyl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    People should start reporting and blocking Kramnik.

  • @dandonna852
    @dandonna852 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kramnik needs to Explain Now Now! What is a? Cheat move, Chess engine, move, Brilliant move and if he is using chess engine to study too?

  • @HJDSimon
    @HJDSimon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it should have been said that Kramnik doesn't actually have any real "Maths and statistics" against Hikaru either. He showed a huge misunderstanding of statistical analysis with what he presented. The guy really is off the deep end.