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this idea of mixing in key only works if your not changing the pitch or changing the pitch but using master tempo, and in 55 out of the last 60 years of music mixing it never existed, also only if you are mixing very similar instruments like piano to piano melody, also only if your not mixing on the beats only part of the track, also only if you dont use LF or HF filters, also only if the melody has absolte zero wobbling of the bass/melody like 90% of DnB, UKG, Breaks, Dubstep, Half-time, House Bass have, in short, all of the best mixes you heard growing up never heard of it, all of the best Djs in the most innovative music styles from guetto house in the 80s to minimal DnB today could never work with it, all of the strach DJs all of the famous DJs never heard of it, now please search youtube for classical music white supremacy
Remember this only works when you are mixing tracks that are the same BPM. As soon as you change the BPM of the track the key will change up or down depending on slowing or speeding up the track to beat match. With the digital format of mixing with Virtual DJ, Serato, Traktor you can keylock the track so that when the pitch is changed the key remains the same. This is offten forgotten on these type of videos.
@@frawleywood3276 Frequency and speed change by the same proportion. Example: A4 note is 440Hz. When you lower the tempo by 10%, You are going to get 396Hz which is close to a G4.
Good work. Nice to see a DJ thinking musically at this level. As a sax player who works with different DJ's every weekend, this kind of knowlege of harmony is very much appreciated. Also, nice one for pointing out Keylock for mixing so we don't end up having to micro-tune between keys!
Thanks for this. Very helpful. It's the sort of thing a decent dj will have been doing with their ears, but it's nice to have the diagram when looking for tracks
I find that mixing in key works better with Edm because you have more flexibility with the bpm between tracks than other genres of music. Just my opinion! I missed your Sunday's skill set. You owe 2 this Sunday to make up. Lol Thanks for the video!
"Mixing in key" is something achieved, "proficiently", by very few DJ's mostly because it's almost essential to create a playlist ahead of time that has *all* of the following components. 1.) Songs are key 2.) Songs are within 5 bpm of each other 3.) Songs are within the same genre and energy 4.) Songs are recorded within the same "clarity/resolution/time period". E.g. If you're playing a song recorded pre 90's it will *never* sound the same as something recorded in 2022. Even with remastering, be very careful jumping from something like, say, "The Drifters - This Magic Moment" to "Can't Sleep Love - Pentatonix". If all of these are checked off, you'll have a set list like no other that's as seamless in the blending as it is in the key signatures being blended. Combining all four above will make you a fantastic DJ, not just a good or great one. It's one of those things people who know nothing about music instinctively "feel" when listening to your mix.
let me debunk all this in one set => hunee boiler room at dekmantel 1.) Know your tracks 2.) Practise 3.) Use you ears dj sets sounds better when they are stories with up and down moments otherwise if everything is up, well it becomes flat ain't it ?
It's bad on the piano is: C - Cis - D - Dis - E - F - Fis - G - Gis - A - Ais - H - Hes (B) and again C. I do not know if the American keys otherwise call the call I play 6 years on the piano :) But I still love the channel !!!!
Yep! Every key can also be named as another key's sharp or flat. A# can also be B(b) and C# can be D(b). Similarly, C can be seen as B#, and F can be seen as E#.
I’ve always wondered if you can change the key on the RX2 keyboard. You can of course change pitch but that doesn’t make you see what key the track is currently in.
Thank you for that this is dj steady I’m about to start working on my mix in key so that information have help me I listen to your videos al the time 🔥🔥
Ive never knew that keys exist im curently 17, and im mixing techno for like 6 months, but never in key, i dont mind this but everyone with healthy ears can conclude which track is similar which is not, for me techno should be melodic ride so if you constantly mix in same key over and over again you will end up with monotone set and straight road, ofcourse keys are handy and thx for sharing. This is just my opinion.
Rekordbox users: It is easy to replace traditional musical key notation with Camelot key notation. 1-Analyze songs for key (with Mixed In Key OR Rekordbox's own analysis). 2-Sort all songs by Key column. 3-Highlight all the songs with same key (F#m, for example). 4-Right-click on highlighted songs. 5-Choose "Show Information." 6-Replace the "F#m" in the Key field by deleting it, then type "11A" instead. 7-Do it for each key: 1A = G#m/Abm 1B = B 2A = Ebm/D#m 2B = Gb/F# 3A = Bbm/A#m 3B = Db/C# 4A = Fm 4B = Ab/G# 5A = Cm 5B = Eb/D# 6A = Gm 6B = Bb/A# 7A = Dm 7B = F 8A = Am 8B = C 9A = Em 9B = G 10A = Bm 10B = D 11A = F#m/Gbm 11B = A 12A = C#m/Dbm 12B = E
UPDATE: Rekordbox quietly added a Camelot style key display in the latest version. Go to Preferences > View > Key display format > Alphanumeric. Done! Super easy. Alphanumeric is the same thing as Camelot as far as I can tell. Rekordbox just keeps getting better and better.
Echo out is an effect where you apply an echo on a track before removing it. As the track is echoing you play the next track, it's a nice method of transitioning
Ok but how do I do this when mixing vinyl? Moving the pitch fader on my technics obviously changes the pitch of the track. I guess the only way is to listen to my records carefully and know what mixes well into to what. But this can be hard when you need to switch up tracks to suit the vibe of the dance floor.
As a Dj coming from the 1200 family, this was not an option for us back in the days. We used to educate our ears to listen to what mixes when well together, let us not be so robotic and dependable on the machine.
I agree - I also started out on 1200's. It's important for a DJ to know their music thoroughly and trust ones' intuition as to what will mix well together. We know so much more than our conscious minds realize - and some of those spontaneous mixes are the product of "I knew it, but didn't realize I knew it, until now!"
Everything is in the vidéo , use it to enhance your experience ☺ don't be hateful on progress like that, I understand your feeling and no one is better , either side is fine and is loved. Have a great day ❤😄
Hello Crossfader team, My name is Frachie Cardona but I go by the stage name of Emreek. I am an amateur DJ, I’m not looking for favors. Your tutorials got me back on track since I stopped in 2010 and I am really thankful for that. I do have a question. I have seen your live mixing videos on TH-cam and I can tell that you have no issues with copyright. The question is: How can I upload my live mixes without getting in trouble? How can I ask for permission to use the music? Thank you for your time, Emreek.
i can't see a reason harmonically why going from C Major to D minor wouldn't work the same as C Major to F Major, since D Minor is the harmonic minor of F Major is also only has one note difference. So 8A to 7B shoud work as nicely as 8A to 7A.
I dunno. Sometimes I either shift from a major key then shift three keys into a minor (ex, 9A to 12B) or shift one major key into the next minor (ex. 9A to 10B). Shifting from a major key to it's minor key doesn't sound good in my ear. (9A to 9B)
Now I have a question, does this key function apply to all genres such as reggae, dancehall,Soca,hip hop,r&b etc because I have used it to mix dance pop and techno and some dancehall but reggae and Soca no so much I find at times those genres are somewhat structured differently.
Could you guys tap into the drastic difference between how Serato and Rekordbox analyze their files? I could have a song read 85 BPM in Serato but then be 135 in Rekordbox. How would beginner DJs deal with something like this?
@@TheFunkloft I wasn't being accurate to the decimal but you know what I mean. The point of my questions is the difference in BPMs from Serato to Rekordbox.
Hi I buy mixed in key and analysed song then put in serato software and I press some ok then my song name becomes all similar name & now different to see which songs I want to play but I check in folder there have song name then again I delete form serato then put back from folder still all same so how I can make like folder song name same in serato thanks
Hey there, basically when i mix in key on my RX2 press select > sort by > key , then it shows the key in chronological order, however as its alphabetical it starts with 12A instead of 1A, is the only way to make them go from 1A at the top to 12B at the bottom to key up tracks 1A-9A with a 0 infront? So like 01A etc etc. When I try to change this on rekordbox is doesn't let me? Any ideas? Hope it makes sense, thanks
Soooo in theory i would be able to make my playlist so that if i took the key of every individual track, could i play an actual short melody in piano? That would be awesome :D
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this idea of mixing in key only works if your not changing the pitch or changing the pitch but using master tempo, and in 55 out of the last 60 years of music mixing it never existed, also only if you are mixing very similar instruments like piano to piano melody, also only if your not mixing on the beats only part of the track, also only if you dont use LF or HF filters, also only if the melody has absolte zero wobbling of the bass/melody like 90% of DnB, UKG, Breaks, Dubstep, Half-time, House Bass have, in short, all of the best mixes you heard growing up never heard of it, all of the best Djs in the most innovative music styles from guetto house in the 80s to minimal DnB today could never work with it, all of the strach DJs all of the famous DJs never heard of it, now please search youtube for classical music white supremacy
Remember this only works when you are mixing tracks that are the same BPM. As soon as you change the BPM of the track the key will change up or down depending on slowing or speeding up the track to beat match. With the digital format of mixing with Virtual DJ, Serato, Traktor you can keylock the track so that when the pitch is changed the key remains the same. This is offten forgotten on these type of videos.
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On those controllers people mostly mix with "Master tempo" on, which locks the pitch when changing the tempo.
Does anyone have an idea on how much the pitch changes when bpm is moved up or down?
@@frawleywood3276 No clue
@@frawleywood3276 Frequency and speed change by the same proportion. Example: A4 note is 440Hz. When you lower the tempo by 10%, You are going to get 396Hz which is close to a G4.
"Use Mixing in Key not as a Strict Rule, But a Creative Tool" Bravo 🤟
One of the best explanations of mixing and key I have found on TH-cam
Good work. Nice to see a DJ thinking musically at this level. As a sax player who works with different DJ's every weekend, this kind of knowlege of harmony is very much appreciated. Also, nice one for pointing out Keylock for mixing so we don't end up having to micro-tune between keys!
Thank you! Your conclusion at the end nails the problem completely.
Thanks for this. Very helpful. It's the sort of thing a decent dj will have been doing with their ears, but it's nice to have the diagram when looking for tracks
I find that mixing in key works better with Edm because you have more flexibility with the bpm between tracks than other genres of music.
Just my opinion!
I missed your Sunday's skill set. You owe 2 this Sunday to make up. Lol
Thanks for the video!
Super intro video, especially about "just go for it" when choosing the banger! Thank you!
"Mixing in key" is something achieved, "proficiently", by very few DJ's mostly because it's almost essential to create a playlist ahead of time that has *all* of the following components.
1.) Songs are key
2.) Songs are within 5 bpm of each other
3.) Songs are within the same genre and energy
4.) Songs are recorded within the same "clarity/resolution/time period". E.g. If you're playing a song recorded pre 90's it will *never* sound the same as something recorded in 2022. Even with remastering, be very careful jumping from something like, say, "The Drifters - This Magic Moment" to "Can't Sleep Love - Pentatonix".
If all of these are checked off, you'll have a set list like no other that's as seamless in the blending as it is in the key signatures being blended. Combining all four above will make you a fantastic DJ, not just a good or great one. It's one of those things people who know nothing about music instinctively "feel" when listening to your mix.
let me debunk all this in one set => hunee boiler room at dekmantel
1.) Know your tracks
2.) Practise
3.) Use you ears
dj sets sounds better when they are stories with up and down moments otherwise if everything is up, well it becomes flat ain't it ?
You guys rock! That's exactly what I was looking for and thanks for the valuable information. Cheers from Poland!
It's bad on the piano is: C - Cis - D - Dis - E - F - Fis - G - Gis - A - Ais - H - Hes (B) and again C. I do not know if the American keys otherwise call the call I play 6 years on the piano :)
But I still love the channel !!!!
the (is) ending is shown as a # in the American notation. So it's C - C# - D - D#... other than that it's the same :)
+ offchristianamr i know, -is = # and -es = b, thank you!
here i have something wrong Hes (B) and Ais is same key... :7
Yep! Every key can also be named as another key's sharp or flat. A# can also be B(b) and C# can be D(b). Similarly, C can be seen as B#, and F can be seen as E#.
Very helpful video for a beginner, thank you!
Great video man. Just what I was looking for
I’ve always wondered if you can change the key on the RX2 keyboard. You can of course change pitch but that doesn’t make you see what key the track is currently in.
The easiest tutorial ever thank you.
You're welcome!
Amazing video!! Big fan of your work!
Gr8 video. Many people are still mixing out of key so this video might ge really good for them 😉
Approve every word! It’s nice when you can prepare your mix as smooth as well, but real dj must feel his crowd.
Thx Jamie! 👍
Or her crowd lol
Awesome Video, thanks! Also really enjoyed the final tips :)
Great video. Best I seen on this. Cheers 🍻
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you so much. This was very very helpful. You do great at explaining with simplicity and it is easy to understand. Much appreciated.
Mistery solved! Thanks Jamie!! btw love the Beginners and Advanced Classes... now... scratching course ;-)
Thank you for that this is dj steady I’m about to start working on my mix in key so that information have help me I listen to your videos al the time 🔥🔥
Great video! Which Rokit speakers are they in the background, I'm looking at getting a pair mainly for bedroom DJ practice but not sure which to get.
I’m guessing it works the other way too? For example, can you go from 8A to 8B, or do you have to go up to 9B from there?
Ive never knew that keys exist im curently 17, and im mixing techno for like 6 months, but never in key, i dont mind this but everyone with healthy ears can conclude which track is similar which is not, for me techno should be melodic ride so if you constantly mix in same key over and over again you will end up with monotone set and straight road, ofcourse keys are handy and thx for sharing. This is just my opinion.
Well you're 17 so 🤷
Any tips on How to change key that has been detected wrong by the software?
Great one, thanks man! I find the camelot wheel really helpful :)
Does the software tell you if it's a middle C or does it just tell you it's a C?
Rekordbox users: It is easy to replace traditional musical key notation with Camelot key notation.
1-Analyze songs for key (with Mixed In Key OR Rekordbox's own analysis).
2-Sort all songs by Key column.
3-Highlight all the songs with same key (F#m, for example).
4-Right-click on highlighted songs.
5-Choose "Show Information."
6-Replace the "F#m" in the Key field by deleting it, then type "11A" instead.
7-Do it for each key:
1A = G#m/Abm
1B = B
2A = Ebm/D#m
2B = Gb/F#
3A = Bbm/A#m
3B = Db/C#
4A = Fm
4B = Ab/G#
5A = Cm
5B = Eb/D#
6A = Gm
6B = Bb/A#
7A = Dm
7B = F
8A = Am
8B = C
9A = Em
9B = G
10A = Bm
10B = D
11A = F#m/Gbm
11B = A
12A = C#m/Dbm
12B = E
Legend!
UPDATE: Rekordbox quietly added a Camelot style key display in the latest version. Go to Preferences > View > Key display format > Alphanumeric. Done! Super easy. Alphanumeric is the same thing as Camelot as far as I can tell. Rekordbox just keeps getting better and better.
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goat!! thank you!!!
Top tips Jamie !! Good explanation for newer DJ’s !!
Great explanation!! Love mixing in key especially when using an external synth
lol for years i havent understood quite how a piano scale works
thanks for that
It's not working for me although my bpm is totally different from these two tracks 172 vs 103... the key is the same 3a..
What am I doing wrong ?
This is very useful for me. Thank you!
This video is so dope. Love it, thank you!
Very Nice Thanks. What's "echo out"? Do you have a video on that? What about changing fro one genre to another?
Echo out is an effect where you apply an echo on a track before removing it. As the track is echoing you play the next track, it's a nice method of transitioning
Thanks. This video helped me to enhance my dj ing skills.
Would you recommend if changing genres or transitioning from big BPM big ranges (either low to high or high to low) to mix in key?
Hey Crossfader. Thanks for the video. I cant see the key once following your instructions??
Why my mixed in key shows numbers but when I export to VDJ it shows letters. How can I change that?
Ok but how do I do this when mixing vinyl? Moving the pitch fader on my technics obviously changes the pitch of the track. I guess the only way is to listen to my records carefully and know what mixes well into to what. But this can be hard when you need to switch up tracks to suit the vibe of the dance floor.
Thanks for great explanation
As a Dj coming from the 1200 family, this was not an option for us back in the days. We used to educate our ears to listen to what mixes when well together, let us not be so robotic and dependable on the machine.
I agree - I also started out on 1200's. It's important for a DJ to know their music thoroughly and trust ones' intuition as to what will mix well together. We know so much more than our conscious minds realize - and some of those spontaneous mixes are the product of "I knew it, but didn't realize I knew it, until now!"
True!
Everything is in the vidéo , use it to enhance your experience ☺ don't be hateful on progress like that,
I understand your feeling and no one is better , either side is fine and is loved. Have a great day ❤😄
great tutorial
thanks a lot for this helpfull Tutorial!
Do keys and BPM appear automatically once the analysis is done on Serato? Can songs saved in Soundcloud GO be analyzed by the Mixed in Key app?
great video as always, really helps me in my mixing
Hi, is there a way to make Virtual Dj show the keys for the Camelot Wheel? Eg 7a 7b etc
Hello Crossfader team,
My name is Frachie Cardona but I go by the stage name of Emreek. I am an amateur DJ, I’m not looking for favors. Your tutorials got me back on track since I stopped in 2010 and I am really thankful for that. I do have a question. I have seen your live mixing videos on TH-cam and I can tell that you have no issues with copyright. The question is: How can I upload my live mixes without getting in trouble? How can I ask for permission to use the music?
Thank you for your time,
Emreek.
Great tips! Thank you
Really usefull tutorials as usual thanks a lot
i can't see a reason harmonically why going from C Major to D minor wouldn't work the same as C Major to F Major, since D Minor is the harmonic minor of F Major is also only has one note difference. So 8A to 7B shoud work as nicely as 8A to 7A.
This makes sense! Thank u!
Great video ❤
I dunno. Sometimes I either shift from a major key then shift three keys into a minor (ex, 9A to 12B) or shift one major key into the next minor (ex. 9A to 10B). Shifting from a major key to it's minor key doesn't sound good in my ear. (9A to 9B)
Excellent, thank you.
Great explanation!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
Great video thanks
nice video... good hear is always an advantage and it has been before software.
Any practical demo of that?
Thank You 🙏💙❤️❤️
Very good video thank you!
Do we need Pro version for Key in Rekordbox ?
Well said concisely!
What about 12B to 1B .? will it be in key
Great stuff man..
Can it work with serato lite as well?
Now I have a question, does this key function apply to all genres such as reggae, dancehall,Soca,hip hop,r&b etc because I have used it to mix dance pop and techno and some dancehall but reggae and Soca no so much I find at times those genres are somewhat structured differently.
Nice channel man!
cannot found the analyze files button in my serato
Could you guys tap into the drastic difference between how Serato and Rekordbox analyze their files? I could have a song read 85 BPM in Serato but then be 135 in Rekordbox. How would beginner DJs deal with something like this?
That's impossible. 85 or 170 but definitely not 85 vs. 135.
@@TheFunkloft I wasn't being accurate to the decimal but you know what I mean. The point of my questions is the difference in BPMs from Serato to Rekordbox.
Great Video. Thank you.
In rekordbox I just mass override the classical keys with the camelot values, not a big deal, and much easier to organize later.
How is this done, is it a setting in rekordbox, all my keys are classical, the camelot values seem a lot easier to read
Good vid man
Great lesson
Thank You Jaimie
I just mix and if it sounds good 👍👍👍 use your ears peeps
Hi I buy mixed in key and analysed song then put in serato software and I press some ok then my song name becomes all similar name & now different to see which songs I want to play but I check in folder there have song name then again I delete form serato then put back from folder still all same so how I can make like folder song name same in serato thanks
Someone tell me why I cannot get the key symbol up on my rekordbox no matter how many times I have tried?
Great job, Thanks!!!
How do you change the key of a track to be able to mix two tracks with different keys together?
thx for this video! so helpful
Hey there, basically when i mix in key on my RX2 press select > sort by > key , then it shows the key in chronological order, however as its alphabetical it starts with 12A instead of 1A, is the only way to make them go from 1A at the top to 12B at the bottom to key up tracks 1A-9A with a 0 infront? So like 01A etc etc. When I try to change this on rekordbox is doesn't let me? Any ideas? Hope it makes sense, thanks
So for example switching from 8a to 8c works right? You dont need to go from 8a to 8b then 8b to 8c? If this makes any sanse lol
There is no 8c ... so no it does not make sense.
Can someone help I'm checking the key tickbox on Serato pro and analysing my files but I don't have a key column?
Good job. Thank you
Is it a no go, to switch the key in one song?
thankfully, there's an option for rekordbox to automatically include the camelot notation now !
GHLOOM how do you do that mate?
How can I mix a to b
Soooo in theory i would be able to make my playlist so that if i took the key of every individual track, could i play an actual short melody in piano? That would be awesome :D
Thank u for the Video Jamie. Does Mix in keys work with mp4s???
Pls do advice...
Please upload a video on how to find the key of a track please🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Most DJ Software will analyse the key of a track for you. You can also use applications such as Mixed In Key
@@Crossfader oooh ok thank you
Thank you !!
Go to 2:13 to mix on key!
Thank you!!! ily!
Can you go from 7a to 6a? thanks matt
yes you can go to 6A or 8A if you song is playing in 7A ..
I never understood why they don’t have these harmonic scales in the software...they just have the key note
amazing