I just love how every single episode Zac sounds like he's woken up in his moto gear and rolled out the door, and progressively gets more awake as he rides along.
I love the random question read and answer at the end, "Does a helmet fit in the bags" "...yeah..." "why no shaft drive" "Idk Im not KTM..." LOL Zack you really are one of my favorite moto reviewers, you and Ari are awesome. Keep up the awesome work.
Cruise control not functioning when traction control is turned off might be due to the problems old cars had with cruise control, where using it in low traction or wet conditions could cause a loss of traction with the throttle remaining wide open. I remember when I was younger using cruise control in the rain on a highway, in a corner my rear end lost traction and the cruise control caused my car to bounce off the rev limiter for like a second or two before it disengaged, which made be lose control even more quickly. Maybe just a precaution I suppose. Luckily I just spun out and lightly tapped the gutter after passing through 2 empty lanes.
Awesome! Love these MC Commute videos. You and Ari have really cornered the market (and our hearts ;)) when it comes to quality, down to earth motorcycling content! Keep em coming!
Cruise on. Hit slippery surface (ice?). Risk is cruise keeps feeding in throttle, wheel breaks traction, cruise gives more throttle slide becomes uncontrollable, rider has a bad day. Maybe. 9:05
I think it's a legality issue too. if the rider got injured, the company might be held liable for it. Also, why would you need the cruise control on with the TC off?
Because it is a chore to turn TC on every time you want to turn the cruise control on. Maybe if hitting cruise control also turned on TC and turning it off turned TC back off as well, it would be pretty much not an issue. But then again, we are talking about company that turns TC on every time you turn the key off on a 690 enduro, have fun climbing hills then... :D
The TC question: not just ice or very wet, modern cruise control is designed to maintain set speed which will cause the throttle to open or close depending on the topography (up hill, down hill regardless if you're in the middle of a turn or not), So imagine your an a wet road in Scotland going up a steep hill and in a turn, when the bike decides to accelerate suddenly you could easily loose control. Also this bike is design to travel off-road on loose surfaces i.e. Carratera Austral (1000KM of gravel) where cruise control comes very handy, as you'll ride with an average speed of 40KM/H (do your own math). Anyway same principal as above applies. Another point, as you ride with CC on, you're usually more relaxed on the bike, sudden changes in declaration and/or acceleration can cause loss of control of the bike and you're down before you've had a chance to react. This is of course amplified with heavy luggage and 2 up riding.
Great review, and you hit all the highlights of this bike. I just bought the 2020 - 1290 Super Adv S, and am really happy with it. Tons of power, handles great, perfect ergo's for me, 6'0", with a 32" inseam. I don't have much trouble flat footing it. It was funny, right at the beginning when you let out about the $1200 cost of the hard bags, my wife turned and said, aren't they the ones you just ordered???? That was the end of that conversation, lol.
You make me wish the were more motorcycles for you to review. Your ability to discern between flaws and preference is my favorite aspect of your reviews. Your reviews are the best, not like the best, not among the best, just the best. I suppose that's the preference thing though. Thanks, be well and ride safe!
Favourite motorcycle channel, and I do not say that lightly. I've pretty much watched them all. Your videos help me through the 6 month period of the year that I am not able to ride. Last few months before spring are torture though :(
Thanks for another video. I personally think this is a better review then a typical magazine article. A little less-refined - which is a good thing. More relate-able. Looking forward to more
Zack you have a fantastic nack for doing these reviews. Thanks. The timing of this review could not have come at a better time as I am truly considering this bike versus the BMW.
KTM claims 160hp for this version as well, seems odd that it only showed 128hp, were you measuring it in 3rd gear? I hear 3rd gear is closest to a direct ratio
"Roasted Buns"?? Had the privilege of test riding the 2017 1290 SAS for 4hrs. The only negative was the heat the bike produced. Please share with us your experience on the 2018 model. Thanks.
Late to video. How would you rate the super adventure r for a daily? Dealer has a used one I’m considering but i want something where I can have fun on twisties and whatnot (understanding I would have to swap out the knobby tires for street tires). Could you also potentially swap out the r wheels and tires for the s wheels and tires?
How is the wind turbulence on the helmet Zack? I'm 6ft2-6ft3 like you, and small screens usually give me A LOT of buffeting on the helmet. I rode a few times a tiger 1050 and a s1000xr of friends and wind wise i find less annoying the wind on my sd1290
How does the S compare to the T? I commute 60 miles a day and like only having to get fuel once a week on my ST1100. I’m on the fence of which way I should go. It will only see mild off-roading, probably 90 percent pavement.
What about HEAT issues on the seat and left leg? Does anybody know if KTM fixed it? I’m about to buy either a 1290R or a África Twin and living in Florida heat is an issue. THANKS
I think the Super Adventure T was the best of all worlds, larger tank for touring, it had spoke wheels for off-road, it had factory crash bars also for off road use, it has better wind protection for touring and the same size wheels as the S for handling. I would be hard pressed to buy the “S” model over a Super Duke GT.
Great video as always, love the bike cause I'm tall. I know its been cold lately but... Hows the heat off the engine? Compared to like the multistrada or GS.
Zack, I'd love to see you take out a Honda NM4. I know it's probably a long shot that such a niche model is in the press fleet, but it was ever so slightly revised for 2018, so maybe there's a chance.
Very good review ! I'm not objective with the bike, since I own one, but... Yes, the brake feels a bit soft at the beginning (probably for dirt purpose ?) and I would have preferred it with more bite too, but it is VERY powerful, one finger is enough for emergency braking. I wouldn't say the mirrors are perfect : they are ok, but the left one isn't as good as the right one (because of its bracket, which prevents from tuning it as it should/could). The bike should come with all the electronic options activated at no charge, and the heated grips as well. But once fitted or activated, everything works perfectly well. KTM luggage isn't very tempting : they melt in the bike's looks (except for the top case, in my opinion), but they are so plasticky ! And the previous model encountered big problems with the locks, etc. I went for a full SW-Motech kit, and I don't regret it. Same price, better looks perhaps and no worry. Plus you can unmount the brackets in less than 30 seconds). Yes, the bike is quite huge and the seat height is impressive : I'm 6" tall and it takes some practice to feel confident on it at low speed (especially with the comfort seat). ... Otherwise, I'm so glad I picked that biked : I quickly realised that this is the bike I had been wanting for so many years, without knowing it. Just not as nimble as my previous SMT, but what a machine... "Vibrations on the highway ? No, it pulses, just like it should." Exactly. There is such a good big twin feel with this bike. In many respects, this engine is the big twin I had always wanted. I just couldn't find one with all the qualities put together at their best. And here they are. This engine is unreal. Electronic suspension just works, and the different modes are entirely purposeful. Yeah, everyone with a new bike is glad with it. Maybe. Try one ;-)
Great commute review as always! I appreciate your comments regarding perceived size of the bike and whether you can flat-foot it. Some of the bikes in this category are either just too tall or too top heavy for us mid-sized people to comfortably handle.
The bike can’t see the road, but it can sense the speed of the bike. So if you’re riding in the rain with cruise control on and your rear tire loses traction, causing you to slow down even a little, the bike is going to try to get you back up to speed. It doesn’t know the road is wet and the rear tire doesn’t have traction with traction control off so it’ll probably just end up flooring it when you already don’t have traction. That’s my best guess
Any comments on 2up riding? As much fun they are ripping through the canyons, they are also made for 2up touring to a certain extent. I'm always hunting for some reviews which have 2up riding. What's the passenger's comfort level?
i'm 5'6" and i want a 1090R... 89cm seat hight.. actually the first bike i rode was the same height but it was lighter. it was a 690smc-r and i was a bit uncomfortable when stopping on non flat pavement. i'm afraid that with 55 more kilos i might drop it at any traffic light
Lifted_Above this is amazing. Currently I have a 2011 bandit 650, but I'm planning on trading it for the new Strom 650 XT. The problem is the price at the moment in Brazil. For the same amount of money, one can buy a F800GS 2018 slightly used. It's priced at R$41.000,00 reais, and there are F800 2018 for 38-40k here. I'm not looking forward on a BMW, but the price is crazy right now.
Yeah I live in the USA. The discounts on bikes right now in Feb-Mar is very good. Have you taken a ride on the DL650XT? I believe you'll absolutely love that 645cc Vtwin engine.
Traction control is admittedly not of much use in sunny SoCal. But in cold wet weather it is extremely useful. BTW Honda ST1100 had traction control 26 years ago.
Like most bikers I use 80/90% front. I appreciate that on track the rear slides out with just a feather of back break, but in this instance, on the road, it looks more like a skid to me. At 15.31 the front doesn’t dive much, so I wondered if he had flipped the break input for effect - it’s probably just that he’s a way better rider than most of us!
Would like to hear your thoughts on a VMax. Also, when you can get your hands on a new Speed Triple and CB1000r, I'd like to see them as well. Great vid as always, keep up the great work!
Adventure 1290 vs. KTM SuperDuke GT ... Both expensive, but which is the better value for multi-use road riding (e.g. - touring, commuting, short trips, long trips)? Maybe those two bikes would not be considered by the same type of buyer?
Mahindra mojo 300 cc and Bajaj pulsar 180, Bangalore, India. Btw, the mojo is the first international standard/quality bike from an Indian manufacturer.
Shaft drive adds about 120lb to a bike which is why I loved my FJ1200 but am less keen on the FJR1300 which replaced it. Too darned heavy in the parking lot. It handles its weight well on the move, but not in the garage.
I own a 2013 GS which is a nice machine but reliability has been a major issue. Looking at the ADV as a potential replacement. One nice thing about the GS though is that it's great in hot weather as the heat stays low and it's a pretty cool running engine anyway. Could you please comment on the heat (or lack of) in your videos as a matter of course? Probably not a big deal where you are but a major consideration for us living in sunnier parts of the world. Especially since your comments are from the commuter's prospective.
Zack great review but i've read that the traction control is actual quite good on the 1290S and that in sport it even lets you wheelie for as long as you want. You had it in road so propably that's why it cut the power when wheelied until you turned it off. Next time you ride one of these have a go on the Sport mode, I'm curious to know if it is actually like that. Power wheelies are the most fun of the commuting part anyways
12:51 after several months of wet miserable winter with slippery, crud covered roads I have to admit I was having palpitations when he started leaning it that far :-D
I'm also 6'2 and my Tiger Explorer is really nice for a taller dude. As was the Super Tenere when I tried it, haven't tried the ktm but I really would like a ride on this bike
GSA 1200 versus the KTM... bottom line? I can’t decide & I need help! I’ll be mostly on tarmac but dirt/gravel roads occasionally, & rarely single track. I carry about 60-80 pounds of gear plus my 120 pound wife. HELP ME CHOOSE PLEASE!!!
Traded my GSw in for one of these. Crazy good bike. A quick demo ride really doesn't do it justice. Once you work with the LC8 for awhile, everything else kinda pales by comparison (he said, also having a Multi 1200DVT w/full Termi in the garage).
@@mariosavva999 Bought a used 2020 701 with $3k worth of mods already done. For me, its an awesome bike. Ride 200 mile day rides from my house hitting miles of off road through the foothills and Sierras. A heavier bike would suck on many of the trails and get dropped to often... lol
Seems odd that KTM are sticking to chain drive, whereas BMW and Yamaha of the same or similar engine capacity use shaft drives, which I prefer. I own a BMW GS, but I like the KTM's design and layout of the controls. I think a lot of bike adventurers will like this one.
Ducati SuperSport for the commute. I viewed the first ride at a track but that isn't like riding on the road. Can anyone comment on the width of the bike? I have a hip injury and can only ride relatively narrow bikes.
Zack Courts thanks for the reply and your TH-cam content. I will view the First Ride again. I wanted to sit on the SuperSport at the Chicago Motorcycle Show but Ducati was a no show.
Why is it that bikes that come standard with LED indicators are swapped in the USA??..This bike has them as standard in the UK and I've noticed it on loads of bikes..surely LEDs are brighter and last longer so are safer and more efficient..so what gives??
I just love how every single episode Zac sounds like he's woken up in his moto gear and rolled out the door, and progressively gets more awake as he rides along.
Finally another MC commute! Fav show on youtube about bikes
The Jakarta Roads dih.. Pantes ada bang raka TJR di sini,ternyata gaya berkendara anda terinspirasi dari zack ya bang.. Dikit2 whilie 😂😂😂😂
Wet weight is 524 lbs with full tank. It's the lightest big adventure bike even with the largish fuel tank.
I love the random question read and answer at the end, "Does a helmet fit in the bags" "...yeah..." "why no shaft drive" "Idk Im not KTM..." LOL Zack you really are one of my favorite moto reviewers, you and Ari are awesome. Keep up the awesome work.
You need to watch Ryan at fortnine
Cruise control not functioning when traction control is turned off might be due to the problems old cars had with cruise control, where using it in low traction or wet conditions could cause a loss of traction with the throttle remaining wide open. I remember when I was younger using cruise control in the rain on a highway, in a corner my rear end lost traction and the cruise control caused my car to bounce off the rev limiter for like a second or two before it disengaged, which made be lose control even more quickly. Maybe just a precaution I suppose. Luckily I just spun out and lightly tapped the gutter after passing through 2 empty lanes.
I think you hit the nail on the head with that one. I forgot that that use to be something I considered when I turned CC on.
Awesome! Love these MC Commute videos. You and Ari have really cornered the market (and our hearts ;)) when it comes to quality, down to earth motorcycling content! Keep em coming!
Agreed, from the future. RZ350 Goated still btw
Cruise on. Hit slippery surface (ice?). Risk is cruise keeps feeding in throttle, wheel breaks traction, cruise gives more throttle slide becomes uncontrollable, rider has a bad day. Maybe. 9:05
Aidan Holmes Good thinking
I think it's a legality issue too. if the rider got injured, the company might be held liable for it. Also, why would you need the cruise control on with the TC off?
Because it is a chore to turn TC on every time you want to turn the cruise control on. Maybe if hitting cruise control also turned on TC and turning it off turned TC back off as well, it would be pretty much not an issue.
But then again, we are talking about company that turns TC on every time you turn the key off on a 690 enduro, have fun climbing hills then... :D
Exactly. Cruise control without traction control would be an absolute death trap in snowy conditions on the freeway.
Also prevents someone from using cruise control while riding on dirt which might not go well too!
The TC question: not just ice or very wet, modern cruise control is designed to maintain set speed which will cause the throttle to open or close depending on the topography (up hill, down hill regardless if you're in the middle of a turn or not), So imagine your an a wet road in Scotland going up a steep hill and in a turn, when the bike decides to accelerate suddenly you could easily loose control. Also this bike is design to travel off-road on loose surfaces i.e. Carratera Austral (1000KM of gravel) where cruise control comes very handy, as you'll ride with an average speed of 40KM/H (do your own math). Anyway same principal as above applies. Another point, as you ride with CC on, you're usually more relaxed on the bike, sudden changes in declaration and/or acceleration can cause loss of control of the bike and you're down before you've had a chance to react. This is of course amplified with heavy luggage and 2 up riding.
Great review, and you hit all the highlights of this bike. I just bought the 2020 - 1290 Super Adv S, and am really happy with it. Tons of power, handles great, perfect ergo's for me, 6'0", with a 32" inseam. I don't have much trouble flat footing it.
It was funny, right at the beginning when you let out about the $1200 cost of the hard bags, my wife turned and said, aren't they the ones you just ordered???? That was the end of that conversation, lol.
You make me wish the were more motorcycles for you to review. Your ability to discern between flaws and preference is my favorite aspect of your reviews. Your reviews are the best, not like the best, not among the best, just the best. I suppose that's the preference thing though. Thanks, be well and ride safe!
Favourite motorcycle channel, and I do not say that lightly. I've pretty much watched them all. Your videos help me through the 6 month period of the year that I am not able to ride. Last few months before spring are torture though :(
Hi Zack, which one is better in traffic? In terms of weight and Manoeuvrability KTM or GS? Thanks 🙏
Good job with the whole channel. Thanks! Keep 'em coming. We play this non-stop in our shops.
Thanks for another video. I personally think this is a better review then a typical magazine article. A little less-refined - which is a good thing. More relate-able. Looking forward to more
Zack you have a fantastic nack for doing these reviews. Thanks. The timing of this review could not have come at a better time as I am truly considering this bike versus the BMW.
KTM claims 160hp for this version as well, seems odd that it only showed 128hp, were you measuring it in 3rd gear? I hear 3rd gear is closest to a direct ratio
So what is your comparison the KTM 1290 and the Multistrada 1200 or 1260? Im torn between the two!!!! Whats your take?
In love with this channel. Keep up the good work sir.
Ok so if you had to pick between this ktm 1290 SA S or the BMW GS or GSA what would you pick??
"Roasted Buns"?? Had the privilege of test riding the 2017 1290 SAS for 4hrs. The only negative was the heat the bike produced. Please share with us your experience on the 2018 model. Thanks.
Hey Zack, I owned a 1190R the first year. Great bike, but miserably hot at seat and right thigh. Did you have the same heat issue with the 1290?
Late to video. How would you rate the super adventure r for a daily? Dealer has a used one I’m considering but i want something where I can have fun on twisties and whatnot (understanding I would have to swap out the knobby tires for street tires). Could you also potentially swap out the r wheels and tires for the s wheels and tires?
Zack your hilarious love the quick Q and A at the end! I think you should do that regularly
How is the wind turbulence on the helmet Zack? I'm 6ft2-6ft3 like you, and small screens usually give me A LOT of buffeting on the helmet. I rode a few times a tiger 1050 and a s1000xr of friends and wind wise i find less annoying the wind on my sd1290
How does the S compare to the T? I commute 60 miles a day and like only having to get fuel once a week on my ST1100. I’m on the fence of which way I should go. It will only see mild off-roading, probably 90 percent pavement.
Are the heated grips warm enough? On my 1190 ADV I didn't like them compared to the Oxford Grips...
What about HEAT issues on the seat and left leg? Does anybody know if KTM fixed it?
I’m about to buy either a 1290R or a África Twin and living in Florida heat is an issue.
THANKS
I think the Super Adventure T was the best of all worlds, larger tank for touring, it had spoke wheels for off-road, it had factory crash bars also for off road use, it has better wind protection for touring and the same size wheels as the S for handling. I would be hard pressed to buy the “S” model over a Super Duke GT.
Zack, How is the Seat Comfort? Is it Firm or Soft? How is the seat build. Is it narrow or Wide enough for longer rides?
Would love to see the MY17 KTM 390 Duke commute.
Great video as always, love the bike cause I'm tall. I know its been cold lately but... Hows the heat off the engine? Compared to like the multistrada or GS.
Great review! Just one question, which one would you pick between this and the BMW s1000xr? For canyon riding and weekend travel?Thanks!
Zack, I'd love to see you take out a Honda NM4. I know it's probably a long shot that such a niche model is in the press fleet, but it was ever so slightly revised for 2018, so maybe there's a chance.
Is a 790 Duke ride on the cards in the near future?
Late this year in us. Picture August
Did you say why it has street tires? I know in the beginning you said more about that later but don't remember hearing it.
Did you get any wind buffeting around your head at speed? Or was it clean air
Brilliant review as per usual. Thanks to you, I am now torn between the GS and the KTM! Good on you mate!
Very good review !
I'm not objective with the bike, since I own one, but...
Yes, the brake feels a bit soft at the beginning (probably for dirt purpose ?) and I would have preferred it with more bite too, but it is VERY powerful, one finger is enough for emergency braking.
I wouldn't say the mirrors are perfect : they are ok, but the left one isn't as good as the right one (because of its bracket, which prevents from tuning it as it should/could).
The bike should come with all the electronic options activated at no charge, and the heated grips as well. But once fitted or activated, everything works perfectly well.
KTM luggage isn't very tempting : they melt in the bike's looks (except for the top case, in my opinion), but they are so plasticky ! And the previous model encountered big problems with the locks, etc. I went for a full SW-Motech kit, and I don't regret it. Same price, better looks perhaps and no worry. Plus you can unmount the brackets in less than 30 seconds).
Yes, the bike is quite huge and the seat height is impressive : I'm 6" tall and it takes some practice to feel confident on it at low speed (especially with the comfort seat).
...
Otherwise, I'm so glad I picked that biked : I quickly realised that this is the bike I had been wanting for so many years, without knowing it. Just not as nimble as my previous SMT, but what a machine... "Vibrations on the highway ? No, it pulses, just like it should." Exactly. There is such a good big twin feel with this bike. In many respects, this engine is the big twin I had always wanted. I just couldn't find one with all the qualities put together at their best. And here they are. This engine is unreal.
Electronic suspension just works, and the different modes are entirely purposeful.
Yeah, everyone with a new bike is glad with it.
Maybe.
Try one ;-)
Great commute review as always! I appreciate your comments regarding perceived size of the bike and whether you can flat-foot it. Some of the bikes in this category are either just too tall or too top heavy for us mid-sized people to comfortably handle.
The bike can’t see the road, but it can sense the speed of the bike. So if you’re riding in the rain with cruise control on and your rear tire loses traction, causing you to slow down even a little, the bike is going to try to get you back up to speed. It doesn’t know the road is wet and the rear tire doesn’t have traction with traction control off so it’ll probably just end up flooring it when you already don’t have traction. That’s my best guess
Great job as usual Zack! Can I add a FJR 1300 to the list of requests? Thanks in advance!
Any comments on 2up riding? As much fun they are ripping through the canyons, they are also made for 2up touring to a certain extent. I'm always hunting for some reviews which have 2up riding. What's the passenger's comfort level?
Great vid, again Zack. So this bike, Multistrada Enduro, or the new Triumph 1200 any thoughts?
i'm 5'6" and i want a 1090R... 89cm seat hight.. actually the first bike i rode was the same height but it was lighter. it was a 690smc-r and i was a bit uncomfortable when stopping on non flat pavement. i'm afraid that with 55 more kilos i might drop it at any traffic light
You tried turning traction control off while cruise control is on?does it work like that?
I'd love to see a V-Strom commute.
Wonder what are your opinions on the newest model and comparing it with the Versys.
Great video!
DL1000XT please!
Lifted_Above both of them please!
DL650XT and the DL1000XT!
I'm planning on trading for a new 1000XT tomorrow. :D
Lifted_Above this is amazing. Currently I have a 2011 bandit 650, but I'm planning on trading it for the new Strom 650 XT. The problem is the price at the moment in Brazil.
For the same amount of money, one can buy a F800GS 2018 slightly used. It's priced at R$41.000,00 reais, and there are F800 2018 for 38-40k here. I'm not looking forward on a BMW, but the price is crazy right now.
Yeah I live in the USA. The discounts on bikes right now in Feb-Mar is very good.
Have you taken a ride on the DL650XT? I believe you'll absolutely love that 645cc Vtwin engine.
how was the fuel consumption? (normal driving) + Maintenance cost?
love the review and really liking this bike... but 1 big question about this bike... how's the heat?? warm weather... or stop and go?
Traction control is admittedly not of much use in sunny SoCal. But in cold wet weather it is extremely useful. BTW Honda ST1100 had traction control 26 years ago.
That sound effect of exhaust was awesome 😂 daga daga daga
Your sound quality is immaculate especially during riding. Could you tell me what setup you used? Thanks for the video!
Hey, MC. Any chance of an update on this one with the new turn by turn display feature?
When you’re backing in would you say 80% rear and 20% front brake?
Like most bikers I use 80/90% front. I appreciate that on track the rear slides out with just a feather of back break, but in this instance, on the road, it looks more like a skid to me. At 15.31 the front doesn’t dive much, so I wondered if he had flipped the break input for effect - it’s probably just that he’s a way better rider than most of us!
Zack,What gloves are you wearing in the video? Nice combo of subtle style and protection it looks like.
Would like to hear your thoughts on a VMax. Also, when you can get your hands on a new Speed Triple and CB1000r, I'd like to see them as well. Great vid as always, keep up the great work!
are there any underseat heating issue and the temp where you riding please consider
Modern motorcycles are too complex. So much to go wrong.
The usual superb review.
How does this bike compare to the new Multistrata V4.
These really are the best reviews, love the MC Commute 👍
Hey zack! Which motorcycle gloves are those ? Also what jacket do you wear ?
Adventure 1290 vs. KTM SuperDuke GT ... Both expensive, but which is the better value for multi-use road riding (e.g. - touring, commuting, short trips, long trips)? Maybe those two bikes would not be considered by the same type of buyer?
Not sure the GT could handle all the things. th-cam.com/video/uCeV31pjYAQ/w-d-xo.html
What motorbikes do you guys use for commuting purpose in your country ??
Ktm Duke 390 for commutes. Makes them that much more rowdy and exciting. Ninja 1000 for touring.
50cc 2 strokes moped !
BMW K1100rs -93 "Custom" in Finland ;)
MZ ETZ 301.
Mahindra mojo 300 cc and Bajaj pulsar 180, Bangalore, India. Btw, the mojo is the first international standard/quality bike from an Indian manufacturer.
Great job Zack as always!
What kind of fuel economy does it get? Have you tried out the phone connection?
VANVAN200!! Now there is a real adventure bike
Thanks Zack. Great video, look forward to the dash video.
Hi Zack. Question, how does this compare with the BMW GSA?
Shaft drive adds about 120lb to a bike which is why I loved my FJ1200 but am less keen on the FJR1300 which replaced it. Too darned heavy in the parking lot. It handles its weight well on the move, but not in the garage.
I own a 2013 GS which is a nice machine but reliability has been a major issue. Looking at the ADV as a potential replacement. One nice thing about the GS though is that it's great in hot weather as the heat stays low and it's a pretty cool running engine anyway. Could you please comment on the heat (or lack of) in your videos as a matter of course? Probably not a big deal where you are but a major consideration for us living in sunnier parts of the world. Especially since your comments are from the commuter's prospective.
Zach! How many pairs of gloves do you have?! And, honestly for simple rollin around town , what's your favorite?
Zack great review but i've read that the traction control is actual quite good on the 1290S and that in sport it even lets you wheelie for as long as you want. You had it in road so propably that's why it cut the power when wheelied until you turned it off. Next time you ride one of these have a go on the Sport mode, I'm curious to know if it is actually like that. Power wheelies are the most fun of the commuting part anyways
NinjaKat nope. Sports mode wont let you wheelie at all. I own the bike for 5k miles now. And you can only wheelie once you turn of the tc
They should have just used the same 'control scheme' as the Super Duke R (calibrated for the ADV of course) and called it a day.
Dohan Kuswardi funny... My adv R Does wheelie in sport mode
12:51 after several months of wet miserable winter with slippery, crud covered roads I have to admit I was having palpitations when he started leaning it that far :-D
Ktm 1290 SAS or Ducati multistrada 1200 s dvt?
Would you pick this bike over an r 1200gs
how different does it feel from a 1290 adventure R?
I’m very interested in this bike and the multi 1260s, any comparative info you could give me?
Zack Courts thanks so much for the response, I absolutely love your show, keep up the great work!
Not sold on the headlights. Maybe it looks better in person? Also, the cost of those side bags are crazy!
I'm also 6'2 and my Tiger Explorer is really nice for a taller dude. As was the Super Tenere when I tried it, haven't tried the ktm but I really would like a ride on this bike
Hey Zack, You covered just about everything that could be covered. I would have liked more info on the lights (headlight) pros and cons?
Im getting one tomorrow! So stoked!!!
GSA 1200 versus the KTM... bottom line? I can’t decide & I need help! I’ll be mostly on tarmac but dirt/gravel roads occasionally, & rarely single track. I carry about 60-80 pounds of gear plus my 120 pound wife. HELP ME CHOOSE PLEASE!!!
Go for GS. It handles better big loads while touring.
Traded my GSw in for one of these. Crazy good bike. A quick demo ride really doesn't do it justice. Once you work with the LC8 for awhile, everything else kinda pales by comparison (he said, also having a Multi 1200DVT w/full Termi in the garage).
I wish the seat height was lower. I wanted to upgrade from my 690 Duke to this, but unfortunately have short legs.
Zack, when are you going to ride one of the larger sport touring motorcycles like a Yamaha FJR1300 or a BMW R1200RT?
nice commute Zack. but would you rather have this or the r1200gs ?
So, it seems very similar to a super duke GT. Which would you have?
He answered that at the end, said he'd take this one because it's comfier.
Is it worth upgrading from a 1190 to this?
Are you still riding this bike? Would you buy it again? Im considering buying a used 2018 SAS.
Did you buy one? I got a 2018 SAS, totally awesome!!
@@mariosavva999 Bought a used 2020 701 with $3k worth of mods already done. For me, its an awesome bike. Ride 200 mile day rides from my house hitting miles of off road through the foothills and Sierras. A heavier bike would suck on many of the trails and get dropped to often... lol
Hey Zack great vid! Is the auto blip always on or you can use the clutch like a normal bike?
Jc1200 Ninja I'm not Zack but if it's anything like the quick shifter on the BMW S1000r, you can still use the clutch like a normal bike
mitsuninja thanks.. I’m kinda old school when it comes to shifting.. I like my clutchless up shifts and blipping on the way down
What an excellent review. Thanks for your good work.
Spring is just around the corner guys!!!!
Please ride a Triumph Tiger 1200 XCa on MC commute
Still can't figure how you are able to do wheelies on adventure bikes!
Fantastic video yet again. Struggling with a very hard decision I have to make....do I buy one of these or a GS!!
Both great bikes but I reckon for the cool/fun factor get the KTM!
Seems odd that KTM are sticking to chain drive, whereas BMW and Yamaha of the same or similar engine capacity use shaft drives, which I prefer. I own a BMW GS, but I like the KTM's design and layout of the controls. I think a lot of bike adventurers will like this one.
Ducati SuperSport for the commute. I viewed the first ride at a track but that isn't like riding on the road. Can anyone comment on the width of the bike? I have a hip injury and can only ride relatively narrow bikes.
Zack Courts thanks for the reply and your TH-cam content. I will view the First Ride again. I wanted to sit on the SuperSport at the Chicago Motorcycle Show but Ducati was a no show.
Why is it that bikes that come standard with LED indicators are swapped in the USA??..This bike has them as standard in the UK and I've noticed it on loads of bikes..surely LEDs are brighter and last longer so are safer and more efficient..so what gives??
Another great MC Commute. Any chance of doing the Duke 390?
Hi Zach. Do you use earplugs during these recordings or when commuting in general?
Keep up the great videos. 👍
Leonard Tripic He's stated in earlier vids that he wears them mainly for the wind noise.
Would you rather buy a super adventure of a super duke r ?