The 20 Greatest MSX Games of All-Time
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2023
- In this video we countdown the 20 Greatest MSX1 Games of All-Time (no MSX2) as voted for by you - the retro gaming community!
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Full MSX Top 50 List:
50 - La Abidia Del Crimen
49 - Flicky
48 - Green Beret
47 - Moon Patrol
46 - Penguin Wars
45 - Super Cross Force
44 - Army Moves
43 - Pac-Mania
42 - Yie Ar Kung Fu 2
41 - Finders Keepers
40 - Oh Shit!
39 - Knight Tyme
38 - Magical Kid Wiz
37 - Exterminator
36 - Manic Miner
35 - Rollerball
34 - Thexder
33 - Mappy
32 - Golvelius
31 - Yie Ar Kung Fu
30 - Eggerland
29 - Alpha Roid
28 - Payload
27 - Ghost House
26 - Antarctic Adventure
25 - Arkanoid
24 - Beamrider
23 - Aliens
22 - Road Fighter
21 - Gauntlet
20 - Parodius
19 - Elite
18 - The Castle
17 - Guardic
16 - Chuckie Egg
15 - Kung Fu Master
14 - The Goonies
13 - River Raid
12 - Gradius 3
11 - Gradius 2
10 - Kings Valley 2
9 - Salamander
8 - F1 Spirit
7 - Zanac
6 - H.E.R.O.
5 - Maze of Galious
4 - Gradius
3 - Kings Valley
2 - Knightmare
1 - Penguin Adventure
Road Fighter , Yier Kung Fu 2 , Thexder , Super Cobra, Magical Tree , Death Wish , Sky Jaguar ........................ etc
MSX 1 Games certainly missing are: • High Way Star • Payload • Raid on Bungeling Bay • Penguin Wars • Eggerland • Hole in One • Krakout • Boulder Dash
And some other Konami MSX 1 games: • Magical Tree • Pippols • Magical Tree • Yie Ar Kung Fu 2 • Road Fighter • Hyper Sports 1 & 2 & 3 • Hyper Olympic 1 & 2
A lot of those made the wider Top 40.
This takes me back, still got my MSX in a cupboard with the cartridge games, sad I got rid of my cassettes after my tape recorder broke nearly 30yrs ago,but still have fond memories in my teens of going to Bedford to Tavistock HIFI to get my Konami cartridges, and other games, those were the days.
Zanac was a game that i been dying to learn the name, thank you for this amazing video!
Yay, you used my Penguin Adventure comment! ;) I guess my other four choices didn't really stand a chance, being obscure and Japanese-only, but Penguin Adventure just HAD to get a mention, and it looks like my prediction that it would show up on a lot of other people's lists was entirely accurate. But then, how could it not? One look at that game and it's hard not to be impressed and immediately engrossed.
Always fascinating seeing these lists. I wonder how much different the list would look if voted upon by Japanese MSX users, though? I'm certain it would look MUCH different on the whole, though the top entries would mostly be the same.
Thank you for contributing!
Penguin Adventure is my go-to game whenever I need to showcase someone new about the MSX1's capabilities. It's hard to believe that game is from 1986.
Thanks for the mention you made my day❤❤❤ Digitizers for life!!
Thanks for the inclusion of my review about Nemesis 3! Well, I think the 1st place was pretty well deserved, the ranking was quite interesting to see, but... NO Falcom games made the Top 20, nor any single pure RPG (even though Maze of Gallious has some elements of the genre)!! In fact, I'm not that surprised, since most of them weren't translated to Western audience, except during the emulation era by the ROM-hacks...
My favorite one (some would say, a Metroidvania), Dragon Slayer IV, wasn't even remembered - despite the fact I acknowledge its iteration in the MSX 2 an even better one. Did it make the Top 40?
I was particularly glad for the inclusion of the Compile classics that are Guardic and Zanac A.I., to break a bit of the Konami dominance! But I do love what Konami did for the system... Looking forward to the MSX 2 episode!
No, you were the only person who voted for it!
I'm curious about early Japanese RPGs. I was once trying to figure out what Japanese RPGs and proto-RPGs predated Ultima III, if any. But I had difficulty finding relevant info.
Here in the USA, Dungeons and Dragons was really popular in the 1970s, so there were a lot of early proto-RPGs and genre defining RPGs in the 1970s and early 1980s. But I'm curious about how it was elsewhere in the world in the 1970s and early 1980s.
Dragon Slayer IV is one of my personal favorite 8-bit games of all time, and I would've absolutely voted for it were this to be a list of MSX2 titles. It was the limiting of this list to MSX1 games that really made me inclined not to include it, as the MSX1 version is simply far inferior to its MSX2 counterpart -- it's probably the worst way to play Dragon Slayer IV.
I suspect it may get its due come MSX2 time, though!
As far as MSX1 games from Falcom go, the only one that I think might've been a worthy inclusion on this list is Xanadu, as MSX1 Xanadu is probably the single best 8-bit incarnation of that game. In retrospect, I should've included it on my list rather than going with four obscure titles no one else was ever going to vote for (since practically no one else has ever heard of them!) -- but hey, I gotta be honest. ;)
If this same exercise is indeed done for MSX2 in the future, however, I will definitely be casting my vote for games more likely to get votes from others as well -- Dragon Slayer IV, Fire Hawk, and Psycho World will unquestionably be three of my five, with the other two slots being the only ones up in the air, since there are a LOT of great MSX2 titles to choose from. (Let's face it, though, Metal Gear 2 will probably be the winner!)
@@TheLairdsLair Almost unbelievable that I am the only one who remembered. Well, you are warned about my vote for the MSX 2 for the game in the next poll...
@@IsaacKuo That'd be a good research to be done! As far as I know, the first ones might be more focused on Japanese computers than on consoles, with games made for PC-88, Sharp X1, Fujitsu FM-7 or MSX... I've found out that the text adventures were pretty frequent, maybe even more than the RPGs.
From my part of the world, Brazil, I can tell that there were little productions in the 1980s, but mostly made for the MSX. The very first Brazilian video games were not RPGs, but text adventures. Amazonas is the one that first comes to my mind.
Ok I must thank you for using my comment. I'll buy a book now
I'm so happy that Guardic made into the list. Such an awesome shmup. There's nothing quite like it even to this day. It could be made better by having an in-game map and showing what enemy types there are going to be for each screen, to make the whole strategy aspect better.
Same, it's possibly my favourite MSX game.
Good stuff.Quite a few games here I've never even heard of, let alone played.
Brilliant documentary, I was a poor teenager in the 80's so only owned 2nd hand Sinclair computers (violin 😥) but I loved to drool over MSX machines. I did get a new 800XL, later a 2nd hand ST520...
Here I am now, mid 50's, drooling over MSX's (that V-20 on show would be something I'd love to spend time with 🥰)
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I got a second hand 520STfm after my ZX Spectrum +2a, the 800XL is my current favourite 8-bit computer, although I love my JVC HC-7 MSX too!
I'm a big fan of the TI99/4A so I'm well aware of the graphical capabilities of the MSX range.
The TMS graphics chip that the machines share was not renowned for smooth scrolling but in the right hands it could handle it fairly well. The 4 spreites per scanline limitation could also be a pain at times.
The one big plus though was that the maximum resolution of 256 x 192 was never hampered by colour limitations. You could have all 16 at the maximum resolution-unlike many other machines of the time.
There are definitely color limitations to the TMS9918 video chip. The way color works is different from, say, the way things work on the C64 or ZX Spectrum, in interesting ways. For example, the way different ranges of characters had different palettes opened up the possibilities for different sorts of color cycling than what was typical on the C64 or ZX Spectrum.
I am also a Knightmare and Nemesis 2 person, those are my top 2. From this list River Raid and HERO would be quite high in my top. I could never get into Kings Valley or Maze of Gallious.
The absences that surprised me are Golvelious, Thexder, Eggerland Mystery and Yie Are Kung Fu 2.
I loved every version of Gradius/Nemesis, and the MSX ones doesn't make any exception! Simply flawless!
I loved Gradius/Nemesis too, It's ashamed that Gradius never released on SMS (SEGA Master System)
For MSX1 my absolute favorite game was Boulder Dash 1 and 2. I played lazy jones and zanac a lot too. I also liked the nemesis series as well as kings valley. Salamander was the only cartridge I've bought back in the day, they were expensive. Arkanoid was also a game I played a lot as well as roller ball or one of the pinball games. Road fighter was a fun little game too. Hidelyde series was good too. Q-bert had some great music and animation.
For MSX2 with disk based games there are many great games like metal gear, fray, golvellius2, hydefos, feedback, Ys series, laydock etc. But my all time favorite was Aleste 1 closely followed by zanac ex.
Loved to watch this video. Brought me back in those good old days. Unfortunately I didn't see games like Roadfighter, Spelunker, Yie-Ar-Kungfu or Pitfall 2 in the list. I played those game a lot. Luckily there are emulators because my old msx died long ago. So I can play those old games over and over. I think you could even make a top 50 of these because there were so many good games. That Antarctic Adventure is number one is not a surprise for me. That was a fantastic game. Played it for many hours.
I was a great fan of Konami. They made a lot of fantastic games.
It's Penguin Adventure at the top, not the first game. I can tell you that Road Adventure was just one point off the top 20 and Yie Ar Kung Fu only just missed out too.
We really need an MSX mini to play these cool MSX games you included!
In my opinion, Hype is one of the best shooters ever made and one of the best msx games.
I am terrible at hype
I'm surprised that Pippols didn't make the top 20. It was a great game and it didn't have jerky scrolling.
It only got a couple of votes, didn't even make the Top 40.
Never sold in Europe
Actually, it was reviewed and advertised in french magazines back in the day
Could I've been my first bought game after Christmas, but I chose kings valley and twin bees
I don't have much experience with the MSX-probably broader experience with MSX2 games but still not many-so I couldn't really think of a top-5 to give. However, the results ended up fairly close to what I figured, but of the ones I've played, these are great games. As always, I do love those TMS9918 colors. I kind of fell in love with Antarctic Adventure many years ago, but never played Penguin Adventure; looks like I need to play it. Probably the MSX games (not including MSX2) I've played the most (because I played Antarctic Adventure on Colecovision) are the Hyper Sport games, but that's mainly because I love that type of game.
Looking at the games is reminds me more of other gaming consoles than other 8 bit micros. It still look like a very good system for its time though.
I'm glad to see Penguin Adventure #1. Although, that does not belittle the other games.
Little suprised to not see Knightlore on the list or the great northsea helicopter on the list. But i can agree on most on the list. So many great games. So difficult to pick just 200. I mean 20...
The only thing i found soio special about the msx is that sony made their own version of it along with their own controllers for it,now if you count those few sega and nintendo games for it,that’s something really interesting,
Now while the 3DO was another game console wich was allowed to be made by other companies such as samsung,grundig and goldstar,too bad sony didn’t allowed other companies to produce their playstation,that would,ve hilarious,am mean just imagine a playstation under brand name of akai or yamaha etc,,,
I couldn’t get the skeleton level in Nemesis I was really upset
Hey mate just a quick question will this code be able to run paratroopers 1982 dos on analogue pocket ?
I have no idea what this means or how it relates to the MSX!
@@TheLairdsLair I’m sorry I meant to say ‘core’ not ‘code’ damn this autocorrect, and don’t bother mate I’ve already done some research on this dos core is not possible on analogue pocket, msx is not going to help either. Thanks for the reply though
Speaking of the European inclusions here, I think that Elite's inclusion was very dignifying! In fact, I haven't played it yet in the MSX. However, by looking at it in the video, it seems to be a really pretty version. It might be the best ZX Spectrum conversion to the MSX as well.
By the way, I remembered that Auf Wiedersehen Monty has a brilliant version in the MSX (another ZX Spectrum conversion that's great, which isn't normally the case). Was this game even remembered in the Top 40?
A few people remembered Auf Monty, but it didn't make the Top 40.
wow the music on the system is really good. must have a good sound chip?
The standard sound chip is a 3-channel Yamaha PSG, not much different to systems like the Atari ST and Spectrum 128k, but some Konami games contain an SCC chip in the cartridge, which was also used on many of their arcade games and adds 5 extra channels amongst many other features.
www.msx.org/wiki/Konami_051649
I think I was most surprised not to see Space Manbow and Akumajo Dracula,- Vampire Killer. These are 2 of my most-played games for the machine
They are both MSX2 games, that's why!
where can i buy this MSX book, do you have a link, i am in France
thank you
Amazon - here's a link - www.amazon.fr/Compendium-MSX-Games-1/dp/B0C8782TP2
Great choices ! But 20 is not enough to show what MSX was. But I missed of Thexder. Great gameplay
Thexder just missed out, it made the extended top 40.
The 20 Greatest MSX 1 Games of All-Time. Now its right =)
What was up scrolling on the MSX? A lot of the big titles had really dodgy scrolling, while others were buttery smooth.
It had no hardware scrolling at all and so to save on CPU cycles a lot of programmers just shifted the screen in whole character blocks.
@@TheLairdsLair That was a real shame, and is probably the only thing the C64 had over it. The sound on the MSX was pretty good, maybe not as good as the C64's SID, but certainly not bad.
Yie-Ar Kung Fu 2 and Twin bee are certainly missing.
I would further add:
Circus Charlie
Elevator Action
Zanac (instead of Guardic)
Zanac is already there!
Circus Charlie, Twin Bee and Elevator Action didn't get a single vote surprisingly.
I think Skooter is a great game that was not mentioned
I guess it is mostly a top 20 of games people actually played back then so it's not surprising to see that the games staying in Japan until fan translations became a thing aren't much on this. No OG Metal Gear?
Metal Gear is an MSX2 game, not MSX1, so no.
I can't do that herky jerky scrolling. The only gares I'm interested in are the remakes of gradius, parodius, and castlevania. I love the retro aesthetic though.
Msx had some amazing versions of games that had been on Nintendo or sega systems like those you mentioned and sometimes even better versions. It’s definitely worth a look. Having never even heard of msx til a couple years ago I have fun going through their library of games and playing their versions of games on retro systems now.
I may of been thinking of the sharp x68000 when I was thinking of better versions but it’s still interesting seeing the msx games too
Hold on a minute...the sound coming from the MSX on some of the higher tier games is almost otherworldly. The sound is far better and more complex than what the Nes was capable of. How is this possible? Some of those soundtracks would not be out of place on a 16-bit game.
Some Konami games contain an SCC chip in the cartridge, which was also used on many of their arcade games and adds 5 extra channels amongst many other features, so yeah, much better the NES.
www.msx.org/wiki/Konami_051649
@@TheLairdsLair
I had a feeling but as the MSX is a microcomputer and uses a number of formats for programs I wasn't entirely sure. Technically couldn't the game have been on cassette and disk? Like maybe playing the musical tracks with the cassette and loading the game data from a diskette? I thought that could be a possibility but I also don't know if cassettes were ever used like that either.
Wait...did you say 10 channels of audio sound on a micro from 1983?! That's Sega Master System FM Synthesis (+9) and Sega Genesis (6+4) levels of sound.
Nah, you couldn't do it like that, not possible.
With the Konami SCC you have 8 channels (3 PSG + 5 SCC).
@@TheLairdsLair
That's crazy....I never experienced the micros or cassette tapes. Well, I had a Commodore 128 for a short while but when I got my Nes and Master System that was the end of that. Plus I was like 5 so what did I know? I didn't get into computers until I saw Doom in 1993 which absolutely broke me. From that point forward getting Doom was my reason for existing. I got my first PC a 486DX2 in 1994 for Doo...I mean homework. That game actually made me put down Street Fighter II. My life at one time was completely consumed by it as well.
Gauntlet should be on there as it was the best 8 bit version and a proper conversion by US Gold not a crap speccy port
Gauntlet was 21st, there is a full top 50 in the pinned comment.
Was the original Metal Gear on MSX? I'm surprised that didn't make the top 20. Then again, the first one was a bit iffy.
Kinda, it was an MSX2 game, this list is just the original MSX.
Oh ok, this one is just MSX1. Gotcha.
I recognize that talented people worked hard to try to make something amazing on such limited hardware, but seriously: just compare MSX _Salamander_ (a.k.a. _Life Force)_ to the Famicom / N.E.S. version… and you have to admit there's absolutely _no good reason_ for anyone to waste their time even emulating the MSX version today. Yes, there is some historical significance to the fact that companies like Compile and Konami worked out "rough drafts" for their ideas on the MSX, before implementing those ideas on other consoles (a pattern that would be repeated again with the Amiga, a software generation later) but with most of these titles, like _Star Soldier,_ you can't even say that the MSX version came out first, and that the Nintendo version was a later development because both versions were created simultaneously. 😕
As weird as this sounds, I kinda think that the Atari 2600 has an advantage in terms of replayability today for the reason that you stated. Those were basically remade from the ground up and were inspired by the original version. In some cases, this makes the 2600 version superior in my eyes, Jawbreaker and Solar Fox come to mind. When there's the SG-1000, Intellivision especially, or even the NES in some cases, I'd rather just play the arcade version on an emulator as it is the superior version in most cases. That said, these ports had their place. Pac Man looks quite nice.
FWIW, there are still a lot of people who enjoy working with the limitations of the venerable TMS9918, including vibrant dev communities for both MSX and TI-99/4A to this day.
Who the hell is keiran hawken? Is he related to Steven hawken?
I am Kieren Hawken, who is Steven Hawken?
@@TheLairdsLair you know that smart guy in the wheelchair....
That fact that I can see Boulder dash frogger and elevator action in the screenshot lets me know this is not the system for me. While those games may have been popular in their contemporary period they haven't held their entertainment value in the slightest over the years. If those 3 games have made it on to a best of the system list then it seems indicative that the system simply doesn't have much to offer for games that would still be worth playing today.
The thumbnail doesn't represent the actual content of the video, it's just a collage of random MSX screenshots.
@@TheLairdsLair duely noted, I intended to watch today during lunch either way. Thanks for making these videos as well I appreciate the content even if it discusses games that aren't in my wheel house.
L' MSX era il migliore di tutti
anche del C64, lo ZX apectrum era pessimo con giochi fatti male
An interesting selection of games, but I don't really understand the point of writing a developer, but at the same time not writing the name of the game
It's the publisher, not the developer and EVERY game has a picture of the box art that has the name of the game on it!
Not to mention the title screen for each game with, yes you guessed it, the name of the game, is also shown in EVERY clip.
@@TheLairdsLair This is purely my opinion, so no offense. It doesn't matter the developer or publisher, I think it's better to write the name of the game at the top. In addition, sometimes there is such a font on the boxart or it is written in Japanese that nothing is clear.
Only one entry doesn't have English on the box, Kung Fu Master and with that game it has text saying the name of the game on the screen.
I really don't see your point, sorry.
You don't have Dragon Quest or Metalgear on this list ?!
Well, Metal Gear is an MSX2 game, so no.
Only one person voted for Dragon Quest.
Metal gear the best game on MSX
Its MSX2 not MSX1
I’m not a huge fan of this list. Too many puzzle games.
Are you watching a different video or something? There are no traditional puzzle games, this list is mostly shoot 'em ups!
Saya dulu punya NES nintendo super mario tahun 1998
it's called SALAMANDER. there's a picture of a cobra. it's a space shooter with cells and amoeba.
if i were on the design team, i'd be like, "GUYS!!! PICK ONE OF THEM!" ... nevertheless, really great game.