I was at the local Toyota dealer and the salespeople all pretended like they had never heard of an engine recall until I showed them the multiple notices that have been sent out. Then they argued that 96000 Tundras with the recall is way less than the 100000 Tundras I said.🙄
My 2022 Tundra's engine bit the dust yesterday about 550 miles away from home, while driving back from a vacation in Florida. Fortunately it's covered by the recall and Toyota is taking care of it.
@@mindroam Toyota won't pay to tow it to my local dealership but they will repair it at the dealership I had it towed to in Florida. I have family in Florida and am out here several times a year, so it won't put me out when I pick it up. They have no idea when it will be done though because they haven't rolled out the plan for the recall yet.
Tim is one of the few reviewers who didn’t manage to break their Tacoma during a review 😅😅😅 3 separate reviewers broke different components during their initial reviews …. I would not buy any new Toyota trucks for another 5 years, good thing I just bought second gen….. Toyota is now relying on people who do no research on their purchase and fanboys … apparently there’s plenty of them
I'm sure it's a fine off-road vehicle if you don't take it off-road or in snow, and if you don't downshift the manual. And the tax-payer subsidized turbo engines will last some amount of miles.
Not just the tundra. I have a 2018 Tian XD with 46,000 miles. March 2024 on Carvana was $30k, last month was $23,600. I think it’s just the used market has gone down. Few years ago I was offered $46,000 for my truck during Covid (no inventory).
I traded my 22 1 week before the recall was announced. I paid 52k for a Sr5 TSS Double Cab.. I got 37k for it less than 2 years later. Pretty big hit.. I'm sure it would have been more if I would have waited. Besides the recall.. I think A LOT of 3rd gen owners are simply NOT happy with the build quality. Mine had too many rattles, gaps, noises, wind noise Ect..
It’s not only the recall. The fact that the tundra is being heavily discounted now just showed the general public what they should be able to buy tundras at new. It’s why the big 3 devalued so much from msrp.
Not entirely. The Tundra is also one of the few trucks that has increased in sales from this point last year, along with the Colorado. The others have just sold a lot fewer than last year and need to try and move inventory.
@@kloun1980 also untrue. They've been consistently having record sales months most, if not all year long. They're on pace for their highest sales year since 2007, which was their highest sales year ever. Each month in 2024 has sold more than each respective month in 2023.
@@RedWingsninetyone they have been giving discounts on these junk trucks all year... And low APR.. since April they started upwards of 10k off and 1% APR.
My 2020 platinum tundra with 82,500 miles is worth the same money as your tundra you use to have. Thats crazy. I priced mine with carmax and I paid $52000 for mine.
Yeah, its a big hit to the Toyota Brand, I got rid of my 2023 Tundra, took a hit at about 8K, this was my last Toyota vehicle, I will never visit a Toyota Store or buy a Toyota Branded Vehicle ever again.
I traded my ‘23 Tundra Pro for a ‘24 4Runner Pro. I know the hybrid wasn’t part of the recall, but I still don’t feel comfortable with the “possibility” of being stranded. My local Toyota dearer gave me $68k for the Tundra.
The hybrid isn't part of the recall because you can theoretically use the battery power to move it off the road if the block blows up. But I haven't heard of hybrids' engines blowing up, so maybe their design distributes enough oil to the components.
How about the shocks blowing out on the new Tacomas because they tried using internal to the shock bump stops instead of the traditional frame mounted external bump stops. Check it out, Icon shocks found out.
I think the recall and a lot of other problems in general are affecting the resale on the 3rd gens. Unless something changes, I expect the depreciation on the Toyota trucks to fall in line with other automakers. In the meantime, we are going to see the 2nd gen Tundra not depreciate as much and maybe even gain value long term. We are already seeing older, popular models go up in value like the GMT400 & GMT800 SUVs and Excursions.
Good video and appreciate the diversity of data points. The reputation damage to Toyota is going to be bad. I hope Toyota considers extending the warranty on these vehicles (if they haven’t already done it). They need to keep faith with their product buyers.
Hey Tim, Welcome back! Here is what I’m not hearing with the new engine swaps. What is and isn’t included with the new engines? Intake manifold/ injectors, water pumps, starters, exhaust manifolds, knock and or other sensors? When my 94 SR 5 Xtracab 4X4 V6 was part of the head gasket recall many, many parts that should be replaced were not! If memory serves me correctly the knock sensor was in the valley between the heads and below the intake manifold that was a common failure part. That recall cost me about $2,700. to replace parts on an engine that had 76,000+ miles on it that could have cost me latter down the road. I couldn’t just bring it in for the recall, I had to wait until my temp gauge started to climb or I found water in my oil! My dealer was very happy with my bill, I sure as blank wasn’t! As always stay safe, cool and healthy. 14:30
@@Pickuptrucktalk Hey Tim, Thanks. I treated this recall like giving my engine a total rebuild/ replacement part project. I had them resurface my flywheel replace the clutch assembly ( pressure plate, disc, throw out bearing and pilot bearing etc. I didn’t expect them to cover everything but, I did go after items that could be affected by the coolant leak ( parts, machining etc. ) Stay cool! Ron
a few dealership mechanics putting in a crate motor, especially since the entire cab has to get removed. the entire truck has to be put back together. no thanks.
Tim, as for "cold water on the results", I see the different results between the two reports because they are reporting different timelines. The Robb report (lol) is only showing the reduction(or increase) in value from Jan this year to now. The iSee cars report is basing their numbers from new until now. So, the Robb report is 6 months of data only. The iSee is more historical numbers smoothed out. And obviously they have no idea on the value of 10yr old 2022 so they are just projecting or as I call it, guessing. And as you stated, the 6 month data clearly shows the drop in value since Jan being significantly greater than historical numbers.
Not sure about all that. I watched a video yesterday where the person was reviewing a '22 Capstone with 17K miles on it. New that truck was $79K MSRP (well high 70s anyway). It was on the lot for $59K. It lost more than $20K in value in 1.5 years (considering that the trade value was likely closer to 50K)...that's ~25%+. But i think this is an issue across the board. I have a '23 F150 Raptor (traded a '22 TRD Pro. best decision ever). A few weeks ago i was contemplating downsizing a bit and went to a few dealerships just to check on pricing. The best i could get was $65K - 70K to trade. Private sale on KBB was a couple grand more. 3 months ago it was closer to $80K (according to KBB). This just shows many of us that you better bring some $$ to put down when buying these trucks so that you can avoid the huge depreciation gap. I am fortunate where I "only" owe ~$34K on my Raptor but even that gap was not good enough to walk away from it. Let's not forget too, many folks who bought into the '22 Tundra model year likely paid some sort of markup (not all). That isn't even factored into the calculations of value.
Get what your saying as far as Tundra resale value taking a hit with the recalls. However everything is taking a bath right now for the most part. The market is shifting. It’s also another reason why dealer lots are piling up everyone that has bought in the last 3-4yrs for the most part is upside down.
Does anyone know? Is it a complete new long block or is it a short block with the old turbos? Im told it's an issue with number 3 cam bearing but that's coming from the Toyota claims representative, so um, ya.
Gonna plug Trd Jon here, he’s got an interview with Sheldon coming up…. Should be interesting, but Trd Jon isn’t as critical as you so my bar is low with him actually asking tough questions… then again I’ve been nagging him and tundra dude to be more critical… there’s no hope for tundra dude, he’s desperately trying to get invited to Toyota press events
Even if they did ask those questions, they would never make it past the vetting process. I highly doubt Toyota would agree to a cold interview. Toyota will know exactly what questions are going to be asked and already have a corporate response prepared when going live. The narrative will be controlled by Toyota.
Haven’t read all the comments but I think you said Manheim auto report? If so they are the largest used auto auction in the country and have them all over the place. Like Starbucks of cars. They set the $$ nation wide. Funny hauling cars out of there for 9 plus years i was very very surprised too see a Toyota Tundra. No clue about todays world but they were unicorns
I paid 45k for my 2019 Tundra TRD Off Road. 85k miles, just got an offer for 40k. That is why I buy Toyota. I financed it at 1%. I've had no maintenance issues other than oil changes and a 75 mile service at the dealership. It's paid off and I 'could' trade it in for one of the new models. I test drove them and was not impressed. I guess I'll just live without a 14" screen and turbo whine.
It’s not Toyota that did that. It’s inflation in general. I bought a Ram 1500 used in 2019 for $22k. Carvana offer was $33k in 2022. Literally every car increased in value because of the money printer.
I know I did. The large amounts of inventory can make for better opportunities. I got a new GMC fully loaded for 54k they dropped 15k. I'm was only down 5k but I'm done with toyota after this.
20 year Toyota fan. I bought at Titan because of no frills V8 and $15K in rebates and incentives. Their dealership network and current offerings are a big letdown. No interest in giving Toyota any more money.
Because of the recall of my Platinum 2022 with 10K miles, I decided to trade it in with a USED Platinum HV 4X4 , 2023 with 3K miles....I ended up paying $11K! FINAL Advice: If you are in the market for a Tundra 2022 and later, buy a used one....Literally you will save + $15K on 2022 and $8K+ on 2023 and $5K+ on 2024 at least in GA-Atlanta !
Buy low, sell high. It's a buyers market for the patient ones. Run the 3rd gen Tundra until/if the engine chokes, then replace with a brand new power plant! Failure rate so far is 0.8%...
I was assuming we would see a little increase on the trucks eligible for a new motor. If you can drive it for a year or so and then get to restart with a new motor that sounds decent. I just don’t like the look of the Tundra.
2022 platinum. Lemon lawed for fuel guage keeps defaulting to full. 3 years later 2024 doing same. Toyota changed dashboard. Didn’t fix it. One more try then lemon law this one. Fuel tank not a complicated system.
I recently bought a 2024 Tundra. The dealer explicitly stated to me that the crankshaft bearing problem was fixed for 2024. He was underinformed or lying. The 2024s are blowing up, just like the 2023/2022s, and now there are reports of 2025's blowing up! I suspect that Toyota hasn't extended the 2022/2023 engine recall to the 2024s until they have sold the 2024s off their lots. Obviously, the bearing problem is not completely explained by debris left in during forging in Alabama and Japan. It is a metallurgical problem with the bearing.
Instead of focusing on engineering, Toyota has focused on complicated, expensive trim items. Remember "new Coke", which was supposed to be better than old Coke? Below, please find a great analysis of the bearing problem by the Car Care Nut ... th-cam.com/video/EyI4ujjxxuk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kjGux5M
What a timely video. I own a 24 platinum hybrid that is not affected by the recall (but obviously same engine). Love the thing but just for fun yesterday I put my vin into kbb and saw the trade in was quoted at 60k on a 72k truck. I’m not sure what to make of that as this is my first new and first truck purchase. Is a $12k drop to be expected (ie not bad) or should i be worried it’ll drop even more sharply if I try to trade in after a year or two?
Shouldn't be too low. I just sold my trdoff road from 22 that was affected. Put into perspective I've lost 10k after 2 years and after driving it for like 30k miles. So I wouldn't say that much, if so then yeah the recall is affecting it. I'm so glad I dumped it rather than sitting on it. Anyways good luck to you and hopefully, it works out.
@mindroam got a really good deal on GMC 1500 5.3l Elevation with 360, x31 (off-road package, so you get the High/Low 4. Elevation premium package. Which gives leather seats the giant center console. Paint matched. Upgraded off road tires. Blind spot. Even has the upgraded tailgate with spray in bed liner. Has that old man bar
I'm not surprised about the loss in resale, but I am also very curious to see how the resale value is affected after the new engines are installed. I actually thing the prices will stabilize to what they were or possibly go up two percent because the new engine will have fewer miles than the other brands out there of the same age. To be honest this makes we even more curios about RAM's future sale numbers as they drop the Hemi and Classic options.
@@Excel812 Based on the fact that nobody wants ‘em, check out the market. Dealers don’t want ‘em back. Tundra dude’s best offer for his was 36K. I paid $46k for my ‘21 Platinum in Texas 3 weeks ago. Tundra Dude, TRD John, they’ve all documented it!
If you buy a 10 year old Tundra, it'll be a lot cheaper, it will be more reliable and cheaper to maintain, and it will probably last you just as long from when you buy it, as the trucks anyone is selling new, today, will last.
With good reviewers like yourself, manufacturers really can’t afford to produce crap… this is the worst time possible to decide to build poor quality vehicles. Unless all the car companies met and decided to all produce overpriced 💩 to be on a level playing field……the new tundra is a huge disappointment to say it mildly…. Smart people would buy a low mileage 2nd gen, put a new 10” head unit in it and have a bulletproof truck without refinancing their homes
The 3rd gens are Walmart quality if you opt for a limited or above. Any trim below is Family Dollar. Always thought the Japanese had more pride but I guess everything has a price. Sad to think my '18 may be my last Toyota truck. Nissan trucks are and always have been junk. Their resale is proof positive regardless of what anyone may say. Ram, unbelievable junk, Ford junk,, Chevy / GMC ?? can't believe that's where I'll be looking for my next truck. Toyota needs to rush in the 4th gen and try to save some face. Anyone seen the new Landcruiser ? don't hold your breath. Embarrassing .
I was at the local Toyota dealer and the salespeople all pretended like they had never heard of an engine recall until I showed them the multiple notices that have been sent out. Then they argued that 96000 Tundras with the recall is way less than the 100000 Tundras I said.🙄
Ha, typical dealerships.
My 2022 Tundra's engine bit the dust yesterday about 550 miles away from home, while driving back from a vacation in Florida. Fortunately it's covered by the recall and Toyota is taking care of it.
free rental vehicle?
How many miles?
@@donaldjefferys217 that’s rough man, sorry to hear it. Did you tow it back to your local dealer? Or have it worked on out there?
@@BR549_o7 Yes, I haven't gotten it yet but Toyota is paying for a long term rental truck from Hertz. Not sure what it will be yet.
@@mindroam Toyota won't pay to tow it to my local dealership but they will repair it at the dealership I had it towed to in Florida. I have family in Florida and am out here several times a year, so it won't put me out when I pick it up. They have no idea when it will be done though because they haven't rolled out the plan for the recall yet.
Tim is one of the few reviewers who didn’t manage to break their Tacoma during a review 😅😅😅 3 separate reviewers broke different components during their initial reviews …. I would not buy any new Toyota trucks for another 5 years, good thing I just bought second gen….. Toyota is now relying on people who do no research on their purchase and fanboys … apparently there’s plenty of them
I'm sure it's a fine off-road vehicle if you don't take it off-road or in snow, and if you don't downshift the manual. And the tax-payer subsidized turbo engines will last some amount of miles.
Not just the tundra. I have a 2018 Tian XD with 46,000 miles. March 2024 on Carvana was $30k, last month was $23,600. I think it’s just the used market has gone down. Few years ago I was offered $46,000 for my truck during Covid (no inventory).
I traded my 22 1 week before the recall was announced. I paid 52k for a Sr5 TSS Double Cab.. I got 37k for it less than 2 years later. Pretty big hit.. I'm sure it would have been more if I would have waited. Besides the recall.. I think A LOT of 3rd gen owners are simply NOT happy with the build quality. Mine had too many rattles, gaps, noises, wind noise Ect..
If you had waited no one would have taken it until Toyota announced the resolution.
I got less than 5k on my 1794 hybrid max. Mirrors and windshield replaced. Rattles everywhere.
It’s not only the recall. The fact that the tundra is being heavily discounted now just showed the general public what they should be able to buy tundras at new. It’s why the big 3 devalued so much from msrp.
Not entirely. The Tundra is also one of the few trucks that has increased in sales from this point last year, along with the Colorado. The others have just sold a lot fewer than last year and need to try and move inventory.
@@RedWingsninetyone goes to show you how stupid people are right now
@@RedWingsninetyone That's because Toyota started giving upwards of 10k off of new trucks.. Before they did that, they weren't selling.
@@kloun1980 also untrue. They've been consistently having record sales months most, if not all year long. They're on pace for their highest sales year since 2007, which was their highest sales year ever. Each month in 2024 has sold more than each respective month in 2023.
@@RedWingsninetyone they have been giving discounts on these junk trucks all year... And low APR.. since April they started upwards of 10k off and 1% APR.
Tundra engine debacle made me pull the trigger on buying a Titan. That and $15k in rebates
what 15k rebate how tf?
you made the better choice. 5 years ago, i would not be saying the same thing.
@@musclesmouse V8 and $15k off, what a deal!
No pickup has had $15K in rebates this year....period. I'm skeptical.
Same here brother 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
My 2020 platinum tundra with 82,500 miles is worth the same money as your tundra you use to have. Thats crazy. I priced mine with carmax and I paid $52000 for mine.
Yeah, its a big hit to the Toyota Brand, I got rid of my 2023 Tundra, took a hit at about 8K, this was my last Toyota vehicle, I will never visit a Toyota Store or buy a Toyota Branded Vehicle ever again.
Yea it was my first Toyota ever..not interested on going sown that path ever again. Traded my 23 two months ago and was able to not take a bath on it😊
I traded my ‘23 Tundra Pro for a ‘24 4Runner Pro. I know the hybrid wasn’t part of the recall, but I still don’t feel comfortable with the “possibility” of being stranded. My local Toyota dearer gave me $68k for the Tundra.
The hybrid isn't part of the recall because you can theoretically use the battery power to move it off the road if the block blows up. But I haven't heard of hybrids' engines blowing up, so maybe their design distributes enough oil to the components.
How about the shocks blowing out on the new Tacomas because they tried using internal to the shock bump stops instead of the traditional frame mounted external bump stops. Check it out, Icon shocks found out.
I just saw a few posts about it. I’ll have to dig in.
Toyota’s current offerings and price premiums are making me consider other brands
That might have worked out if they had used steel to contain it instead of aluminum.
I think the recall and a lot of other problems in general are affecting the resale on the 3rd gens. Unless something changes, I expect the depreciation on the Toyota trucks to fall in line with other automakers. In the meantime, we are going to see the 2nd gen Tundra not depreciate as much and maybe even gain value long term. We are already seeing older, popular models go up in value like the GMT400 & GMT800 SUVs and Excursions.
@@JIPlatium I said nothing of the kind.
@@duggydo sorry commented on wrong user. Thank you.
@@JIPlatium 👍
I paid 60 for my 24 limited they offered me 51 last month.
Good video and appreciate the diversity of data points. The reputation damage to Toyota is going to be bad. I hope Toyota considers extending the warranty on these vehicles (if they haven’t already done it). They need to keep faith with their product buyers.
Values have for sure dropped ALOT. Recall, plus loads of supply (across the board) just lots of trucks out there now for sure.
Hey Tim,
Welcome back!
Here is what I’m not hearing with the new engine swaps.
What is and isn’t included with the new engines? Intake manifold/ injectors, water pumps, starters, exhaust manifolds, knock and or other sensors?
When my 94 SR 5 Xtracab 4X4 V6 was part of the head gasket recall many, many parts that should be replaced were not!
If memory serves me correctly the knock sensor was in the valley between the heads and below the intake manifold that was a common failure part.
That recall cost me about $2,700. to replace parts on an engine that had 76,000+ miles on it that could have cost me latter down the road.
I couldn’t just bring it in for the recall, I had to wait until my temp gauge started to climb or I found water in my oil!
My dealer was very happy with my bill, I sure as blank wasn’t!
As always stay safe, cool and healthy. 14:30
Good question. I’ll send an email.
@@Pickuptrucktalk
Hey Tim,
Thanks.
I treated this recall like giving my engine a total rebuild/ replacement part project.
I had them resurface my flywheel replace the clutch assembly ( pressure plate, disc, throw out bearing and pilot bearing etc. I didn’t expect them to cover everything but, I did go after items that could be affected by the coolant leak ( parts, machining etc. )
Stay cool!
Ron
Who would have ever guessed the most reliable motor in a new Toyota is the Supra’s motor supplied by BMW haha
The 4runner engine.
Yeah if i see new engine im out. Too many questions raised at that point. And there are more vehicles for sale to pick from
I don’t understand for those affected. We are getting a new engine after xxx miles. That’s a win too me.
how long is it going to be in the shop, and how it coukd mess up other parts of the truck
A new engine put in by people that aren't used to swapping engines. And the engine is the same design and components.
Hopefully the techs working on these replacements take care like the factory...
a few dealership mechanics putting in a crate motor, especially since the entire cab has to get removed. the entire truck has to be put back together. no thanks.
Tim, as for "cold water on the results", I see the different results between the two reports because they are reporting different timelines. The Robb report (lol) is only showing the reduction(or increase) in value from Jan this year to now. The iSee cars report is basing their numbers from new until now. So, the Robb report is 6 months of data only. The iSee is more historical numbers smoothed out. And obviously they have no idea on the value of 10yr old 2022 so they are just projecting or as I call it, guessing. And as you stated, the 6 month data clearly shows the drop in value since Jan being significantly greater than historical numbers.
Not sure about all that. I watched a video yesterday where the person was reviewing a '22 Capstone with 17K miles on it. New that truck was $79K MSRP (well high 70s anyway). It was on the lot for $59K. It lost more than $20K in value in 1.5 years (considering that the trade value was likely closer to 50K)...that's ~25%+. But i think this is an issue across the board. I have a '23 F150 Raptor (traded a '22 TRD Pro. best decision ever). A few weeks ago i was contemplating downsizing a bit and went to a few dealerships just to check on pricing. The best i could get was $65K - 70K to trade. Private sale on KBB was a couple grand more. 3 months ago it was closer to $80K (according to KBB). This just shows many of us that you better bring some $$ to put down when buying these trucks so that you can avoid the huge depreciation gap. I am fortunate where I "only" owe ~$34K on my Raptor but even that gap was not good enough to walk away from it. Let's not forget too, many folks who bought into the '22 Tundra model year likely paid some sort of markup (not all). That isn't even factored into the calculations of value.
Get what your saying as far as Tundra resale value taking a hit with the recalls. However everything is taking a bath right now for the most part. The market is shifting. It’s also another reason why dealer lots are piling up everyone that has bought in the last 3-4yrs for the most part is upside down.
Well, my 2012 Rav4 increased in value by $5000 this year. Next year, it will increase by an additional $6000.
Sounds to me like it is time to by a used 22 for cheap and get a free engine at the same time.
Does anyone know? Is it a complete new long block or is it a short block with the old turbos?
Im told it's an issue with number 3 cam bearing but that's coming from the Toyota claims representative, so um, ya.
Gonna plug Trd Jon here, he’s got an interview with Sheldon coming up…. Should be interesting, but Trd Jon isn’t as critical as you so my bar is low with him actually asking tough questions… then again I’ve been nagging him and tundra dude to be more critical… there’s no hope for tundra dude, he’s desperately trying to get invited to Toyota press events
Haha, you are right about those two. Nice guys but it isn't their personality to ask challenging or critical questions.
Even if they did ask those questions, they would never make it past the vetting process. I highly doubt Toyota would agree to a cold interview. Toyota will know exactly what questions are going to be asked and already have a corporate response prepared when going live. The narrative will be controlled by Toyota.
Recall + Heavy discounts = tanked resale values.
Don’t forget high prices, dealer markups and just buying a vehicle in general. If you bought a vehicle with a markup you already lost money
Haven’t read all the comments but I think you said Manheim auto report? If so they are the largest used auto auction in the country and have them all over the place. Like Starbucks of cars. They set the $$ nation wide. Funny hauling cars out of there for 9 plus years i was very very surprised too see a Toyota Tundra. No clue about todays world but they were unicorns
7 years from now with the new engine, it's a good buy.
Great information. And you are right, it will be interesting how the buyer of a used vehicle perceives getting a new engine. Good or Bad?
I paid 45k for my 2019 Tundra TRD Off Road. 85k miles, just got an offer for 40k. That is why I buy Toyota. I financed it at 1%. I've had no maintenance issues other than oil changes and a 75 mile service at the dealership. It's paid off and I 'could' trade it in for one of the new models. I test drove them and was not impressed. I guess I'll just live without a 14" screen and turbo whine.
It’s not Toyota that did that. It’s inflation in general. I bought a Ram 1500 used in 2019 for $22k. Carvana offer was $33k in 2022. Literally every car increased in value because of the money printer.
@@Lq32332 Ya but not anymore. I could have gotten more than I paid 2 years ago too.
@@Lq32332 My truck was worth more 2 years ago as well I'm talking about today prices
Is it a good time to buy a 2022 tundra?
Can not think of any brand that is reliable, they are all junk.
They might as well have bought Lightnings with that depreciation Tim.
Tundra and now tacoma toyota has hurt the loyalist and are
going else where.
I know I did. The large amounts of inventory can make for better opportunities. I got a new GMC fully loaded for 54k they dropped 15k. I'm was only down 5k but I'm done with toyota after this.
20 year Toyota fan. I bought at Titan because of no frills V8 and $15K in rebates and incentives. Their dealership network and current offerings are a big letdown. No interest in giving Toyota any more money.
yep, I did. Was thinking about a new Tundra, went with Silverado instead.
Because of the recall of my Platinum 2022 with 10K miles, I decided to trade it in with a USED Platinum HV 4X4 , 2023 with 3K miles....I ended up paying $11K!
FINAL Advice: If you are in the market for a Tundra 2022 and later, buy a used one....Literally you will save + $15K on 2022 and $8K+ on 2023 and $5K+ on 2024 at least in GA-Atlanta !
Buy low, sell high. It's a buyers market for the patient ones. Run the 3rd gen Tundra until/if the engine chokes, then replace with a brand new power plant! Failure rate so far is 0.8%...
I was assuming we would see a little increase on the trucks eligible for a new motor. If you can drive it for a year or so and then get to restart with a new motor that sounds decent. I just don’t like the look of the Tundra.
I'm gonna disagree, I just today bought a 2022 tundra sr5 knowing it was getting a new engine
This will be my 8th toyota
2022 platinum. Lemon lawed for fuel guage keeps defaulting to full. 3 years later 2024 doing same. Toyota changed dashboard. Didn’t fix it. One more try then lemon law this one. Fuel tank not a complicated system.
I recently bought a 2024 Tundra. The dealer explicitly stated to me that the crankshaft bearing problem was fixed for 2024. He was underinformed or lying. The 2024s are blowing up, just like the 2023/2022s, and now there are reports of 2025's blowing up! I suspect that Toyota hasn't extended the 2022/2023 engine recall to the 2024s until they have sold the 2024s off their lots.
Obviously, the bearing problem is not completely explained by debris left in during forging in Alabama and Japan. It is a metallurgical problem with the bearing.
Instead of focusing on engineering, Toyota has focused on complicated, expensive trim items. Remember "new Coke", which was supposed to be better than old Coke?
Below, please find a great analysis of the bearing problem by the Car Care Nut ...
th-cam.com/video/EyI4ujjxxuk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kjGux5M
Depreciation looks straight line to me. No covid bump?
The tundra 5.7l recall of the past for the 53 K defective engines just shows were toyoda is headed !
Didn't know there was an engine recall on the 5.7. Bought mine new in '08 and still driving it every day. Arguably the most reliabe gas v8 ever built.
Was your 22 a 4x4?
Yes.
Where can I get this truck for 36,600?
What a timely video. I own a 24 platinum hybrid that is not affected by the recall (but obviously same engine). Love the thing but just for fun yesterday I put my vin into kbb and saw the trade in was quoted at 60k on a 72k truck. I’m not sure what to make of that as this is my first new and first truck purchase. Is a $12k drop to be expected (ie not bad) or should i be worried it’ll drop even more sharply if I try to trade in after a year or two?
Shouldn't be too low. I just sold my trdoff road from 22 that was affected. Put into perspective I've lost 10k after 2 years and after driving it for like 30k miles. So I wouldn't say that much, if so then yeah the recall is affecting it. I'm so glad I dumped it rather than sitting on it. Anyways good luck to you and hopefully, it works out.
@@mickeyyy007 ok, not bad. Thanks and what did you go with to replace the tundra?
@mindroam got a really good deal on GMC 1500 5.3l Elevation with 360, x31 (off-road package, so you get the High/Low 4. Elevation premium package. Which gives leather seats the giant center console. Paint matched. Upgraded off road tires. Blind spot. Even has the upgraded tailgate with spray in bed liner. Has that old man bar
I think another reason effecting resale is dealers giving big discounts to sell them. Hopefully you didn’t pay MSRP.
@@mickeyyy007 great choice! Enjoy the truck, it sounds like an absolute beast with an owner to match
I'm not surprised about the loss in resale, but I am also very curious to see how the resale value is affected after the new engines are installed. I actually thing the prices will stabilize to what they were or possibly go up two percent because the new engine will have fewer miles than the other brands out there of the same age.
To be honest this makes we even more curios about RAM's future sale numbers as they drop the Hemi and Classic options.
My local dealership offered me 19k for my 2015 2.7l ecoboost f150 with 156,000 miles if I traded it for a new F150.
Damn my 19 ram 1500 limited is worth that with over 60k miles
well its gng to be the same since theyll have new engines!!
Sad, b/c my 21 Platinum is worth 10K more w/ the V8 & 38 gal tank, 40K mileage.
Based on
@@Excel812 Based on the fact that nobody wants ‘em, check out the market. Dealers don’t want ‘em back. Tundra dude’s best offer for his was 36K. I paid $46k for my ‘21 Platinum in Texas 3 weeks ago. Tundra Dude, TRD John, they’ve all documented it!
@@bobbyb.1743 Nice man. Enjoy the 2021 platinum. It will hold its value much better than the new gen tundras.
Soooo I have a 2022 tundra with 20,000 miles. Should I just sell this damn thing or keep it.
If you buy a 10 year old Tundra, it'll be a lot cheaper, it will be more reliable and cheaper to maintain, and it will probably last you just as long from when you buy it, as the trucks anyone is selling new, today, will last.
Nothing going down they still hella Expensive
Fan boys be hurtin...............taking a bath.
DOWN HERE IN JAX FLORIDA THEY ARE DESPERATELY TRYING TO SELL THEM. WORD TO THE WISE, STAY AWAY FROM THEM UNTIL 2028!
I would buy a cheap used 2022 then have a new engine installed free !! 0 miles. Crazy or genius ??
i am sure dealers are lowballing on trade in. Think about it, new engine in for free and resale it for greater profit.
good luck
With good reviewers like yourself, manufacturers really can’t afford to produce crap… this is the worst time possible to decide to build poor quality vehicles. Unless all the car companies met and decided to all produce overpriced 💩 to be on a level playing field……the new tundra is a huge disappointment to say it mildly…. Smart people would buy a low mileage 2nd gen, put a new 10” head unit in it and have a bulletproof truck without refinancing their homes
IM HOLDING ON TO MY 2014 TUNDRA! THESE TURBO ENGINES ARE JUNK!
It’s junk Tim! Who is their right mind would pay for this mess
Toyota is a joke. Their customer service sucks whoever buys one of those new tundras bumped their head.
Everybody forgot about Ford: th-cam.com/video/DLjbUE2yGmc/w-d-xo.html
Didn’t forget. First I’ve heard of it!
Toyota ain't meant to be an expensive brand. MAKE TOYOTA CHEAP AGAIN.
Sucker's are still buying new ones though.
C. A. N. Y. O. U. Talk a little s l o w e r?
Easy fix. Click the gear icon below the video and select the playback speed to meet your needs.
Host must be taking speed. I would watch more if he learned to enunciate his words slower and better. It’s just annoying as hell.
It’s over for Toyota and over for the truck market.
Wanna be? I bet 2 years from now, nothing will be different.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....never buy JUNK!
Junk
The 3rd gens are Walmart quality if you opt for a limited or above. Any trim below is Family Dollar. Always thought the Japanese had more pride but I guess everything has a price. Sad to think my '18 may be my last Toyota truck. Nissan trucks are and always have been junk. Their resale is proof positive regardless of what anyone may say. Ram, unbelievable junk, Ford junk,, Chevy / GMC ?? can't believe that's where I'll be looking for my next truck. Toyota needs to rush in the 4th gen and try to save some face. Anyone seen the new Landcruiser ? don't hold your breath. Embarrassing .