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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this view we take a deep dive into the new Mind Games Ultimate Collection Review 6 CD Set. We look at its contents, hidden tracks and surprises and how it sounds compared with earlier issues of this album. If you're on the fence about buying this set, this video might help you make up your mind.
Timestamps:
0.00 - Intro & my backstory with this album
2:35 - The new formats
3:35 - 6 CD box set contents
5:58 - Hidden surprises
7: 37 - Musical content
13:05 - Mind Games (Raw Mix) clip.
14:29 - Blu-Ray contents & hidden tracks
16:07 - Blu-ray video content
16:46 - Sound quality visual analysis
18:23 - Sound quality audio comparisons
19:22 - Conclusions
20:19 - Acknowledgements & coming next
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That Peter Cobbin mix was the best mind games I’ve ever heard. 2024 mix is still great though but 2002 for me sounds so cool. I wish I had those cds
Soft spot for the Cobbin mix here as well!
Las remezclas que se hicieron desde el 2000 hasta el 2004, me parece que son las mejores,y lamentablemente, están descatalogadas.
The 2024 mix sounds like there's no treble at all. Sounds like it's under water. 2002 for me.
Cobbinjx and 2024 way to go
I recently managed to find used copies of the Peter Cobbin remixes of Mind Games, Walls and Bridges and Rock ‘n’ Roll so they are still available if you search. I got my copies through Discogs.
2002 mix is the winner, thanks I just saved myself some money for vacation time this summer.
Damn, opinions can vary wildly! I thought the 2024 mix sounded so much more alive than any other, without sounding annoyingly "modern"!
@@BugRib wait another six or seven years and they will remaster it again with a super super deluxe edition. 😆
I think I'll stick with the basic 2 cd edition. I don't see the point of having tons of versions of the same song. Also, I'm not really interested in hidden tricks or gimmicks. I'm really only interested in the music.
By removing that sax at the end of One Day + the echo effect at the end of Aisumasen, Sean has unfortunately broken the unwritten rule no. 1 when doing a remix of an album: You are not supposed to remove anything. If you do so, you're just going to risk upsetting a lot of people - mainly the actual customers. Sean's or anyone else's opinion on that sax ending is simply irrelevant. He wasn't even born in 1973, and putting a sax on the tail end of that song was just the 1973-way of doing that sort of stuff! And it was John's choice to do it. Enough said.
that "unwritten rule" you mentioned lives only in your head and nowhere else...
Absolutely ridiculous that he did that. I want a remix of the original recording not a reimagining.
@@Eluwilussit Oh, come on... Re-mixing an original album is all about enhancing the overall sound which is already there in an objective way, perhaps correcting a supposed error or two. It is not about removing instruments and personel who did them on the grounds of subjective opinions, no matter how "sensible" they might appear. If you do that, at least you have to make sure that the original album is enclosed. Especially in a lavish box-set like this.
@@bengto.hansen7791I wholeheartedly agree with your take. I don't agree with removing instruments, but if they included a flat transfer of the original mixes on blu ray and or CD, it wouldn't be as much of an issue.
That wav you showed of the 2024 mix is the very definition of brickwalled. Dear Lord.
"Music is mixed that way today"... Tragic! The 1980's discs sound so much better.
Over compressed as well and you can even see the highs being clipped.
@@tubinonyou Why cds continue to be mastered this way... makes no sense. "Loudness wars"? Against who? Some ghost in an adjacent room who years ago forget what a volume knob is for?
I was under the impression that John did not believe in I Ching.
He probably agreed with it on the Friday and didn’t agree with it anymore on the Monday.
The Peter Cobbin mix rocks! It is best of all four samples that you played. They're supposed to improve on the sound, not regress.
The Peter Cobbin 2002 mix is by far the best. Excellent work, Peter!
I agree 🤟
The Peter Cobbin mix is the best. No need to mess with the album again.
"The generosity of the Lennon estate" is just marketing.
Of course it is.
That 2002 CD sounds great. The 2024 sounds crappy. You saved me some money. Thanks!
I think Peter's mix is my favorite. The 2024 mix seems to kill some of the mid frequencies with some of the instruments. That said, the extra mixes are definitely gonna be super interesting to listen to!
At that price, the secrets will stay hidden from many of us. Sean has learned the wrong lessons from the Harrison estate.
Under yoko’s supervision, we got 2 affordable box sets. Luckily those 2 are arguably his best work.
I’m bummed that I’ll be priced ou of an upcoming Walls & Bridges super deluxe. My favorite Lennon album. I can only imagine how much collectible material will be added if they are thinking about mirroring the original promotional campaign (all the “Listen to…” stickers etc)
I had a great Mind Games bootleg once, the highlight was a take of One Day At a Time without the strained falsetto lead vocal.
I can’t wait to hear the super deluxe mixes(unfortunately at the price point, I’m forced to find an alternative way to access the material)
Great episode.
2002 mix is still the best. The 2024 mix was definitely made for the smart phone generation with tinny earbuds.
That 2024 Mix almost sounds like a parody of bass boosted TH-cam videos. Literally sounds muffled.
Sounds muddy.
The amount of bass is comical. Terrible.
It's weird how much Yoko appears on the artwork, even more so on this new version when this was the start of the lost weekend. It's one of the few John Lennon albums that she doesn't perform on.
No Yoko - yay!!!!
Will May Pang be involved on Walls and Bridges next release?
Her kid put the project together, so it's to be expected.
Yes, I had the same thought, Aparently Sean is trying ti re-write history.
@@jimjam51075 Her kid was also his kid, but what does it matter who appears on the artwork? Led Zeppelin had the image of a zeppelin on the cover of their first two albums yet I cannot find any reference to Zeppelins anywhere in their music??? Let's all write to Terry Wogan at Points Of View and complain.
2002 seems to be the unanimous prefered mix, to which I wholeheartedly concur. And no doubt your video reviews will be thee number one resource for diehards. cheers Andrew, keep it up!
In 1973 I was thirteen and my first Beatles albums were the brand-new red and blue ones. _Mind Games_ was my first Lennon album, and remains a firm favourite for that reason. Along with _Red Rose Speedway, Living In The Material World_ and _Ringo,_ they were the soundtracks to my teenage years. I look forward to picking this set up eventually and reliving that period of my life.
I share a similar musical experience
I was 13 also. Mind Games was my first John Lennon album, and my first solo Beatles LP. I had already started collecting the Beatles’ albums, starting with Meet the Beatles.
Same here as well, except my first Lennon album was Imagine, but close enough LOL
The Beatles red and blue collections was the first thing I bought when I moved out of my parents house at 17 in 1975. I paid $7.00 for both of them. I already had both the Imagine and Mind Games albums. Lennon the only Beatle I wanted to listen to as a solo artist in those days.
I also was 13 in 1973 and this album was one of the first I ever bought, couldn't afford LP's yet just 45's. I do have the original Mind Games 45 picture sleeve, both single and album on :
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Thank you Andrew! I prefer the 2002 Cobbin mix when you played all four together. The new one sounds very deep and bassy. The Cobbin one had nice EQ highs.But in any case it will be good to hear this album all over again! Also, I can never understand why John never liked his own voice. It had a majestic crunch to it - you always knew it was John.
Lol- I love how all of these TH-camrs receive the deluxe boxed set for free and all love it.
So? Get over it.
Congratulations on being gifted the deluxe Mind Games edition Andrew. This is my favorite John Lennon album with the title track being one of all time favorites from John. I have never liked the sound of it going back to the original CD but I grew to fully appreciate it after hearing Peter Cobbin’s 2002 remixes and that has been my go to CD when listening to this album. I am so happy to see this album get the deluxe treatment. Thanks for your honest review. Take care!
Thanks Bill. The new mix is a big improvement over the original but the 2002 was good.
It is my favorite John Lennon album. I have the 2002 remix which sounds wonderful, but apparently I don’t like it that much to want all these different version of the same songs. It’s something I will listen to one time and it’ll collect dust on the shelf. I’ll just stream it and maybe maybe get the vinyl or the two CD disc version
So happy to see Mind Games get the love and attention it deserves (with major assist from Parlogram)! Like all classic music it grows stronger each year from it's own inner beauty and strength. Each of John's solo releases has a clear sense of identity and coherence, even if a few songs aren't as memorable. Solo, Paul and Ringo made music for the glory of High Pop. George made music for the glory of Krishna. But John made music for his muse.
Great Video Andrew. Love it! Very excited to stream this one!
Thank you for the review. "Mind Games" is one of those albums that just never "clicked" with me. Each song is average to above average. No bad songs, but no great songs either. I may give it a play-through maybe one or twice a year.
No number of repeated listens is going to turn this into a great album. It's just not. And no number of new box set releases and/or remixes can make it into what it wasn't either. It's the epitome of mediocre. Nothing can fix that.
I can't decide if I prefer the 2002 or the 1989, but I know I don't care much for the 2024.
Oh dear. I always liked that sax outro. I can hear it in my mind now...
I prefer Cobbin's. Great video, Andrew ❤
The Peter Cobbin 2002 remix sounded better to me than the new 2024 Ultimate Mix. For everything other than John's voice, I preferred the 2002 remix. But, I guess that's got to do with my own audio preference. I was planning on just getting the 2 CD set, but I'm interested in the Raw Studio Takes CD. And I really like the book. Decisions, decisions...
John looks creepy on that news photo at the start.😳
Great and honest review, as always. I have to say 2002's mix is the one, on the strength of the clip. Full, without too much bottom end. The 2024 has even more bass end, but at the detriment of the mid-range.
Well, out of all the Walls And Bridges previews I've seen so far (3 of them) yours is by far the best out there with the detail of the hidden tracks and just the explanation of everything. Great Job!! 2 thumbs up!!🏆🏆
Glad you enjoyed it!
I’ve got this on pre order your review was excellent. Really can’t wait.
Love this review !! Thank you for this gem of a video
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it!
Great to see another brilliant video. Not such a big solo Beatles fan, but fascinating all the same!
Same here. Frankly can't stand this album but I have a lot of respect for the way Andrew treats the topic and the fans who explain to those like me what they find compelling about the music.
Thanks for sharing and comparing. Listening with some good headphones. Sadly the new version loses badly to the Cobbin mix. Which is quite sad considering all the extra bits offered in the box make it quite desirable.
Had this album on CASSETTE in the early 80s, and got the CD when it came out in '87 and listened the heck out of it!!! Always liked this album, considered it one of John's solo best. Thanks for this preview, and glad you were able to share some sound bites, as this new mix sounds AWESOME!!! And with all the other cool things it has, this box set just might have to end up in my collection!! (Have to wait and see the cost when it comes out!!) Thanks again, Andrew for all you do! Cheers and best wishes from your biggest fan in Boston, George B.!!!
Cheers George! Glad you enjoyed it!
Congrats on receiving the gift from the Lennon Estate. Nice to see! I have always loved this album and have numerous versions on CD, vinyl and cassette. My go-to version is the Cobbin version/mix but what I have heard of this new mix, I am excited to hear it in it's entirety. I really loved how you compared the different mixes, too. The fact that throughout this deluxe edition version we are hearing John's beautiful voice clearer is a welcome plus. So far, I love what Sean and Paul have done with these modern mixes in these classic albums. Cannot wait to get my copy. Excellent job on presenting this new set, Andrew. 🎵👍
Thanks Anthony 👍
@@Parlogram You're welcome.
Excellent review. I'll be getting my order in. I always loved Mind Games, so this is an important release for me.
Thanks for the review. Honestly I think either the Raw Studio Mixes or the Elemental Mixes should have been the second disc in the 2CD and 2LP editions. Those seem like cooler bonuses than the outtakes. Also I think Elemental Mixes should have been just called Stripped Down mixes to be more in line with the 2010 Double Fantasy edition, and to differentiate it better from Elements mixes.....That said, I pre-ordered the 2lp and will stream the rest. Love that these big sets exist though. The ultimate mixes released so far have been stellar. Thank you, Sean Lennon.
18:06 No, that *IS* brick walled. I'm happy you're happy but to me this release is scraping the barrel, clever ultra-violet gimmicks or not. Here's the mix as it was on monday. And here's the mix from one week later. And here's the mix from a week after that without the drums. Six CD's? Seriously? And that ultimate mix sounds muddy and compressed. It's like AI adding colour to B/W movies. Or adding a smart phone to the Mona Lisa because now everybody has one. Sometimes it's better to leave stuff alone.
Honest response here. I thought Peter Cobbin Mind Games sounded better to me...acknowledging I'm listening to it for five seconds, TH-cam video on apple laptop...so take that for what it's worth. I also am just not excited by this album-never was really-and as a result I am skipping this one. But none of that takes away from how much I enjoy your videos, reviews, production and opinions! You do a wonderful job!
Same here, but as Andrew mentioned, I understand why they did it. If it's on Spotify or another streaming service, it won't be 'overwhelmed' by the music around it.
That section of the raw mix of "Mind Games" you played is amazing. I was walking across the room and stopped in my tracks when I heard it.
Mahalo for those precious seconds of comparison among those various version of "Mind Games!" I'm stunned! You've just sold me on this new set, Andrew! Aloha.
Good to see the compact disc is alive and kickin, Andrew!!
The Peter Cobbin 2002 mix is the winner for me.
Me too 🤟
Great video as always! As far as the sound comparisons on the track Mind Games, the '02 Peter Cobbin remix by a mile! The new one sounds like it's being played with the speaker buried under a pillow....yikes!
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for your input on the comparisons.
Wow this is the best review I've watched - so much wonderful stuff in this box set. And as for the new sound, what a joy! That clip from the title track really does John's vocal justice.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Always loved this album can't wait to get the set!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for the review, Andrew: always look for to your new videos and valuable information'. I've never cared much for this album, more so for the songs than the mix. I'll wait for Walls & Bridges.
Thank God they dialed the top end back!!!! So beautiful! Thank you, Andrew!
Nice to see more John love and a little break from Paul related stuff. Cool they gifted you the set, I ordered mine a while ago and am looking forward to it on 7/12. As far as the “Lennon camp” is concerned, would’ve been cool if the offered a zoetrope vinyl of just the ultimate mix of the album. Mind Games is one of my favorite solo Lennon albums so this was a no brained purchase. I recall when the Plastic Ono Band ultimate set came out but never bought it (even though it was more reasonably priced compared to this) but thoroughly enjoyed streaming it and how the tracks broke down.
Hope you enjoy your set, Steve!
After watching this review I will certainly buy my own copy. A huge thanks goes out to Sean and his team. This is a fan of John’s, wish come true.
Sean if you’re reading this, would you consider a box set for Rock and Roll. With its rich history and numerous songs recorded. This “lost weekend “ album deserves another chance. Lastly, it has been mentioned by Yoko. That during the recording of “Double Fantasy”, a film crew made a documentary. Is it a possibility that that film could be finished and released?
Andrew, you are a godsend. Thank you for all that you do and know that I appreciate and always look forward to hearing from you.
Thank you Andrew. Fantastic and as always, clearly a well informed and balanced review. Can’t wait for mine to arrive.
I've always loved this album. It's one of my favorites from John. I can't wait to hear this new version.
Best review of this set thus far! And I have watched quite a few! They never really focus on the actual music! Just playing that little sample of the mind games raw mix has me wanting to get this set now! Great job as usual!
Thank you!
As a thought, an article on Paul Hicks career might be an interesting subject after all, he has worked on some outstanding stuff. Also, an occasional look at engineering wizards such as Peter Mew, Geoff Emerick, Glyn Johns, Norman Smith, and Peter Cobbin, to name a few.
I've never understood the hate toward "Mind Games." It's a seriously grown-up album from a guy who never really got a chance to grow up normally and at this point in his life was desperately wanting to do so. "Bring on the Lucie" got a lot of air play on the FM AOR station in my town during the height of the Watergate scandal; it is an obvious dig at Richard Nixon.
Andrew, great insight into an album which, honestly, I never thought about much. My mistake. Great music with what sounds like an awesome mix. Looking forward to more content from you and the Lennon estate.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for this episode. I was very much considering skipping this one. But you sold me on it. I will be ordering the six CD set.!
Well done. Very informative as always. Cheers!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you so much for all the work you did on this- I wish Paul’s box sets were constructed in a similar way but this is probably the difference between a deep dive on a musician that is no longer with us vs someone still around
Thank you for the in depth discussion. (For me, sound is everything -- so I'm sticking with the previous remix.) G'day and thanks again for another well-produced session.
Sean is such a talented guitarist, and I love his work with Les Claypool. I know some people are going to knock all the various incarnations of this "set" but I think it's a lot better proposition for fans to find a middle ground for their purchases. How often is there only the choice between the "standard" CD and the ultra-kick ass domination deluxe mega-edition remix limited to 723?
Thanks, Andrew, for another very informative video. I will definitely get the new double album. Till next time. Nelio.
Thanks Nelio!
Really enjoyed your review of this box set. I have been looking forward to this set since Sean announced its release date. The Lennon camp turns out such great sets, I am always happy with the outcome. My order consists of this box set, the 2 album set and the regular CD . now all I need is the blue torch lite and the games can begin. Take care!
This is the best and most accurate review I've seen on this incredible box set. Thank you so much for sharing your video and the hard work you've put into it.
Thank you kindly!
18:24 - 18:52 - I was listening the comparison of different mixes of the CDs and I think P. Cobbin's 2002 Remix is the best sounding. I also like his Yellow Submarine remix.
I have to get the 2002 remix. This box is out of my league for the moment. Thanks for the review.
From this video presentation, the 2002 Peter Cobbin Mix sounds like the best one on my audio system. The original one in 1987 always has value as it was the "first one" and we remember the sound of that first release.
Mind Games is my favorite Lennon album. Sound quality never bothered me, though the Yoko remaster was pretty good
The New Super Deluxe Version of John Lennon’s “Mind Games” Album Is The Ultimate Proof Why Julian Lennon Should Be Just As Involved In His Father’s Musical Estate As His Younger Brother Sean Is:
The new super deluxe edition is proving more than anything that Sean Lennon is treating John Lennon’s musical legacy like it’s his favorite new toy. To do with it what he sees fit. And that’s exactly what he is doing.
Sean has taken John’s 1973 album and presented it in a way that HE feels it should be. And that’s definitely not an exaggeration in any way. Sean has completely changed the narrative of pretty much everything that his father John wanted the “Mind Games” album to be when it was first released in 1973. From the concept of the album, to what was actually happening in his life, and most shocking of all the music.
For instance the fact that he’s made this album and the contents in the deluxe edition just as much to do with his mother Yoko Ono, passing it off like a John and Yoko “Double Fantasy” love story is absolutely preposterous. In 1973 Yoko Ono didn’t want anything to do with the “Mind Games” album and really didn’t want anything more to do with John Lennon. She wanted to prove herself in her own right as a musical solo artist. And felt that her two 1973 solo albums “Approximately Infinite Universe” and “Feeling The Space” (where she moved to much more conventional pop/rock sound) were the albums to do just that. Even having John use an alias on the “Feeling The Space” album because she didn’t want John’s name to be listed anywhere on the personnel liner notes. Those defending the massive inclusion of Yoko on this set use the excuse that she was at the majority of the sessions. And even if that’s true in the end it’s more than obvious that John Lennon wanted her to receive no recognition at all for being a part of the album. She’s not listed with a production credit or anywhere else. And the most obvious evidence of all is the album cover shows John walking away from Yoko and her mountainous influence over him. Yet ready to start a life without her. So it’s hard to understand why Yoko’s face is on the compact discs, all over the 136 page book, and her 1966 Danger Box that has absolutely nothing to do with the “Mind Games” album is included.
And if that’s not bad enough Sean has appointed himself to play “GOD” by appointing himself to have total artistic license over John’s music. For instance what gives him the right to remove instruments like the saxophone track in “One Day At A Time”? Last time I checked this is a John Lennon solo album not a Sean Lennon solo album. If John himself wanted the saxophone in that song then it should be left in. Who the heck does Sean Lennon think he is to change what John originally wanted?
Same goes with the production of the album. Apparently Sean felt he had the right to play “GOD” there too. The remix is one thing, but once again even that goes against John’s original wishes for how he wanted the album to sound. John didn’t like his voice and wanted it to be low in the mix, but now Sean has made the vocal track tower over everything else in the songs. Also we need to remember that John himself wanted to produce this record . We are talking about John Lennon here who would have had any producer drop everything else if asked to come produce the “Mind Games” album. That’s not what John wanted. He obviously wanted to see how a record would sound with only him at the helm of the production chair. And whether that ended up being a mistake or not it was his decision to make. The deluxe box set should have included a 2024 remastered version of John’s original mix. Yet that’s nowhere to be found because Sean wants his mix to now be the definitive version. Unbelievable.
Then you have the new narrative on the album that many of these people who got free copies are now trying to pass, which says that Sean’s new mix is so good that it now makes “Mind Games” a classic album.
Are you freaking kidding me???
Revolver is a classic album.
Plastic Ono Band is a classic album.
Mind Games is not a classic album and never will be. It may be the most undeserving album to receive a box set of this stature in the history of music . And that’s not an exaggeration.
Still shocks me how many of these reviewers who got free copies of this box set are taken so seriously by fans. These people are obviously going to present the “Mind Games” box set in the most positive way to stay in Sean’s good graces to not only keep receiving free future releases from the Lennon estate, but to also have their reviews shared on John Lennon’s official social media pages. So none of these reviewers will ever truly rock that boat to get out of that exclusive club. And if you can find an example of someone of went as nuclear as I did in the write up who did receive a free copy please send it to me. (Trust me you won’t find one).
All of these examples above prove why Julian Lennon should also be involved with these projects having to do with his father’s musical estate. Something tells me that Julian would have vetoed or voted against many of the things presented in this box set. (And trust me he knows it too whether he would publicly state it or not).
Until that happens we will continue to get products from John Lennon’s estate that have more to do with Sean Lennon and Yoko Ono than the actual John Lennon history of those times.
Don’t be shocked at all if you see a similar narrative pushed when Sean decides to do a super deluxe edition of “Walls And Bridges” too.
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Right! You took the words right out of my mouth😅. Good shout about Julian❤
I was 28 years old when John was murdered. since then, I find it too painful to listen to his or The Beatles music. While this is so tempting, I just don't know. I cannot put into words how much John's death adversely affected my life. Anyway, I do enjoy your review, and I'm so happy for Sean and Yoko, (I absolutely love her).
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Been waiting for this review like a dog waiting for his late dinner, straining at the leash and my tongue hanging out. Great review and left me gagging for the release date. However, like many other people, it is unlikely I would be able to afford the super duper deluxe version so will have to make do. Personally I love stripped down and raw mixes so am gutted I won't get a copy of the raw mix version. I also love it when John lets his hair down and gets his rock on and have always been a huge fan of Meat City, so would love to hear the raw version of that. I will have to make do with whatever I can get, but thanks for a great review Andrew
Another great overview, Andrew. Mind Games b/w Meat City was the first 45 I ever bought for myself (age 6!) so I have a huge soft spot for this era. Just the little clip from it in comparison was revelatory! I’m hoping the better or more artistic mix choices will help me like the minor tracks (to me) better once I listen on July 12.
Hey Andrew, As usual, I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Thanks for the in-depth look at the new box. From the examples you shared, I preferred the 2002 mix. - Roger
Perfektní video 👏👏✌️ Johna mám moc ráda, můj nejoblíbenější zpěvák,moc ráda poslouchám jeho hudbu ❤ Bohužel tady v České republice není taková možnost mít takový výběr CD jako v Americe, všechny Johnova alba znám, nejraději mám Double Fantasy,na toto album Mind Games jsem hodně zvědavá, určitě si ho strašně ráda poslechnu na Spotify, věřím, že tam určitě bude a budu mít srovnání s původním albem,moc se těším ✌️ Slyšela jsem už You Are Here a I Know s novým mixem z roku 2024 i s videoklipem, který jsem viděla poprvé a je to fantastické,na celé album jsem strašně zvědavá,moc děkuji Seanovi a Yoko za tuto úžasnou práci, mají můj velký obdiv a respekt 👏👏☮️✌️
Thanks for this comprehensive review, Andrew. It's annoying that I have to wait another nearly two weeks to hear the set for myself, but I appreciate the information, especially about the hidden tracks. I'm not completely sanguine about having to hope that my Blu-Ray player can access those tracks; I thought we'd done away with such nonsense when they used to do it on CDs in the 90s. But we'll see. Not sure if I want to bother to invest in the "ultra-violence" - er, ultraviolet light, either. But again, having the information is very useful. You have provided an important service to us fans!
The original CD sounds great to me, also is one of the first Lennon CD I bought so I have great memories discovering his music through that CD collection.
I had that very same cheap Mind Games release from the 70’s. I loved the album and would play it all the way through not missing a track. Could not understand why and how this album was not more appreciated. The songs were super strong and it seemed like a strong number three in a trilogy of great Lennon releases. POB and Imagine being one and two. Sadly I’m just as broke now as I was as a child so won’t get to listen to all these mixes but thank you for a comprehensive breakdown of a box set so deserving to such a fine album.
By the way - where can I find the 2002 mixes?
Based on the brief comparison, I prefer the Cobbin mix of "Mind Games". The snare is more present and there is better mid/low definition. The 2024 mix is a bit too thick and wooly.
The evolution documentaries (together with the full outtakes) are such a great idea. I really love the format. I wish the Beatles deluxe editions also included them.
Nice review. Mind Games is my favorite Lennon album and. I do worry that my two speaker, small stereo won’t do it justice.
I’d like to see a remastering/with newly added musicians for some of John’s unreleased demos such as Illusions (not for love or money), Something’s Wrong, and others. Some of them might need finishing in terms of chorus, verse .
My thoughts on this album are that I didn’t like the sound quality on the original release but really enjoyed the 2002 Peter Cobbin remix which I only discovered recently. I don’t think I will furnish my shelves with further Mind Games media but I will take a listen to it on Qobuz. It seems like the production team have worked really hard to produce this box and they are to be congratulated. Thanks again Andrew for a great review, here’s to the next one!
Hi Andrew, thanks again for this very entertaing video. Cheers Fred
Glad you enjoyed it, Fred!
1:05 Wow I still have all those LPs!😁🎵✌
great review! I can't wait to pick this up
I honestly prefer the Peter Cobbin mix. the new 2024 mix sounds really muffled to me,as if someone threw their speaker underneath their pillow or something lol
I'm sure you get video suggestions all of the time so forgive me, but I just sat down and started listening to the John Lennon Anthology for the first time in over 15 years. The songs in this box set are as raw as they can be and sound amazing. To me anyway. This box set was the first time I'd ever heard any John Lennon solo music outside of the John Lennon Collection and it blew my mind. I remember patiently waiting for "Oh My Love" to buffer over a 14.4K modem in what must have been a very early implmentation of streaming technology. It's almost incomprehensible these days. If you covered the John Lennon Anthology already I don't see it but I know you would shine a light on it like no one else.
Also my first approach to John as a soloist was with the John Lennon collection on CD and listening to it again, and sounds superb
I AGREE, the 2002 version has a much more clear sound, I even like the original 1973 mix because I remember getting it when it came out then, and like on all of John's early solo records, the sound he gave them had character you could hear. I do have one good bootleg CD that I bought maybe 20 years ago, it sounds really good of alternate takes and mixes from the album.
The 2024 Mind Games ultimate mix sounds horrible. Thanks for alerting us!
With the passing of time it is extraordinary to see how dominated John was by his wife. The cover literally says it all. Giant Yoko. Tiny John. He makes Prince Harry look like a independant man. I love Lennon but his later work needs to be called out for what it is. Pleasant but a long way from POB and Imagine.
To me, the cover seemed like it was John walking away from the large and overbearing Yoko.
And personally this is my second favorite solo John album. To me, it felt like John was letting everyone know that he still has it.
I only noticed this week that John nicked Paul’s ‘I’ve got a feeling’ riff for the song ‘I know ( I know). 😅
Great review! Looking forward to the remix! Ideally Mind Games would have come out last year and this year we would get Walls and Bridges but for some reason it is rare nowadays for reissues to come out in the year in which they should come out.
I'm old enough to remember hearing this on the radio when it came out in 1973. My timeline may be off, but I remember Ringo's "You're Sixteen" getting more airplay, but I was/am a big John fan and anything I could get of him singing, I did. I did have this on a 45.
As I got older and got into more of his solo catalog, the terrible sound was noticeable compared to Paul's records or even Ringo's. I purchased the 2010 box of original mixes and listened to them once as they were so drab. I have a few of the upgraded mixes from iTunes that are superb, so Sean re-working these now is a great gift. I see from the comments that fans are critical of the price, but contrary to Sean learning from the Beatles, the Beatles should learn from Sean as to what a box set should contain, price be damned! It seems each Beatles box gets a little slimmer with each release.
Though I'm a bigger fan of POB than Mind Games, I am looking forward to this with the new, modern mixes. I would REALLY like a stripped down "Rock N Roll Music" as the tease we have on the box set from the 90's is not enough. I think there is a treasure trove for Double Fantasy, but Sean and Yoko seem to have shied away from that for probably good reasons. Great video, Andrew, always look forward to starting my work week with your newest video.
Mind Games has such a magic sound to it that buying a lovingly remixed and remastered compilation is a no brainer. Listening to each component laid bare shows that it wasn't just ahead of its time, it is timeless.
The Peter Cobbin remix from 2002 set the bar very high. And the same goes for his remix of "Rock And Roll" a couple of years later. I could never listen to the original mixes again after that.
The original "Walls & Bridges" mix was great, though.
I hate to say this but the samples you played had me feeling the 2002 Peter Cobbin's mix sounded the best to my ears.
I don’t think i can afford the box set.
I didn't know the Peter Cobbin mix, it sounds very good! I really look forward to see some Menlove Av. reamster or remix, it really is a forgotten album :(
Great review. I’ve won a couple of tickets to the Dolby Atmos playing on 11th Soho. Can’t wait a
Good review Andrew. The Cobbin mix for sure sounds best to me, the 2024 mix is just more brick-walled crap. Sean actually changing the music, that's a no-no for sure. This constant re-releasing of old music (and movies), and making them seem all shiney and new is just the same old tired marketing game to make new money. IMO, the Mind Games songs are just average and bland, I think the song Mind Games has a much more engaging melody and sonic impact than the other songs. Where is the wow factor with the other songs? Lennon didn't really have a strong interest in production overall, otherwise the 73 mix wouldn't have sounded so bad. Be curious how the sales numbers for this one will compare to the "One Hand Clapping" set, the boys still competing after 50 years (haha). Cheers!
I am 6 years elder Beatles collector and recall in 1975 at my local record shop I was looking at John Lennon albums and was deciding on which one to buy well I chose Mind Games. The other John Lennon album was a used/new copy of John Lennon RocknRoll Roots on Adam VIII. Ahhh. I Later found out how rare this album is now.Rats well did not know at that time. After hearing your review of this new reissue i will look into which reissue version to pick to add to my collection. It is too bad to read the negative comments about the coming reissue. I personally enjoy all version of Beatle / solo tracks. To me it is another way to hear the great music I grew up with. I like the 2024 remix so far. Great picture of you with your bike. I have a picture just like yours with my bike poss in 1975. I rode my new bike every weekend to the record store to purchase my LP's.Keep up the great work on your post. Always look forward to new ones.