How Deftones Borrow From Shoegaze in Rosemary

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  • @LieLikesMusic
    @LieLikesMusic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    What Deftones song should i talk about next?

    • @tetfol3315
      @tetfol3315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Be quiet and drive.

    • @3rd_iimpact
      @3rd_iimpact 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lotion, please.

    • @andree6026
      @andree6026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Poltergeist

    • @bilnabiln
      @bilnabiln 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Digital Bath

    • @avedic
      @avedic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly?
      Anniversary of an Uninteresting Event.
      There's TONS of Deftones songs I could pick.....basically do anything on Deftones and I'm here for it.
      But I figured I'd throw out an unlikely pick. I _adore_ that song. So deeply emotionally dreamy and liminal. It feels like it comes from the realm of the subconscious.

  • @noshytrix
    @noshytrix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    i saw deftones and shoegaze and clicked asap

  • @Lancelot30
    @Lancelot30 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Cherry Waves is an unbelievable song

  • @Shoeg4zer
    @Shoeg4zer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    If you’re not already familiar, Champaign IL band Hum are similar in that they are a hybrid of hard alternative music and more ethereal elements like Shoegaze and Space Rock. Hum are an acknowledged influence on Deftones. The LA band Failure also exist in this heavy - ethereal - space.

    • @sabledsable
      @sabledsable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Especially on Hum's newer album, Inlet. The riffs are heavier and sorta take from doom metal, while the shoegaze elements are even more present

    • @denisalves9130
      @denisalves9130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Knife Prty sounds extremely similar to Little Dipper by Hum. Both are amazing songs!

    • @codiserville593
      @codiserville593 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yeah. Good to bring up

    • @cmeza1985
      @cmeza1985 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      +1 on Failure

  • @miamyah4951
    @miamyah4951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Finally someone appreciating rosemary!! It’s one of their best songs imo

  • @tasteinmusic3510
    @tasteinmusic3510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I love those dreamy metal songs. That's why my favourite album after KNY is Saturday Night Wrist.

  • @nicoloop156
    @nicoloop156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    KNY will always be my personal favourite, From start to finish it flows perfectly

    • @dsxa918
      @dsxa918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love that album so much, I would love for them to match that with Eros but I don't know if it might.
      I think about, "what does it take for that to be the result?"
      White Pony was my favourite for a time, I played that enough that
      Saturday Night Wrist was perfect for me at the time, the balance, then
      Diamond Eyes played the balance so well I didn't expect anything as good as Koi No Yokan, when it came

  • @Whengirlstelephoneboys
    @Whengirlstelephoneboys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That transition from Rosemary to Goon Squad is Godly.

    • @Agostoic
      @Agostoic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      10/10 perfect moment

  • @Vivec
    @Vivec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Over the moon to see my favourite music channel once again covering my favourite band!

  • @artso1990
    @artso1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Heavy, yet beautiful. Like a ton of flowers.

  • @Dean-gw3jp
    @Dean-gw3jp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    They didnt take something and pretend it was theres, infulence is not theft and imitation is not stealing.

    • @jak3w
      @jak3w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Click bait, let him get the bag

    • @Dean-gw3jp
      @Dean-gw3jp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jak3w thats fair I guess it just annoys me enough when its framed like this because it implies they did something bad or that just having infulences is 'stealing'
      stealing would be if they reuploaded MBVs loveless then slapped 'deftones' on the cover

    • @SleepBeforeYouThink
      @SleepBeforeYouThink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dean-gw3jp plus their are people who are gonna just read the title and start spreading rumors without ever even watching the video.

    • @jak3w
      @jak3w 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SleepBeforeYouThink lol where is this Deftones rumor spreading community

    • @SleepBeforeYouThink
      @SleepBeforeYouThink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jak3w are you really finna act like in todays world, where the average attention span is at an all time low, that people don’t just read the title and dip? The average attention span in the year 2000 was 12 seconds, the average attention span today is only 8 seconds…can you guess what the average attention span of a goldfish is? 9 seconds! 🤣 The same thing happens all the time with news articles. They read the headline but don’t read the rest of the content of the article.

  • @hypnoticpigeon
    @hypnoticpigeon ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Their approach to this song reminds me of The Cure, especially in their goth era, where they focus on open guitar chords for space, a multitude of synth/effects, and groove/rhythm in the bass. A Forest is a perfect example. It also makes sense considering that The Cure was another major influence on their music and sound.

  • @davidellis5141
    @davidellis5141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Slowdive , my favorite band 😊

  • @NotYourBiggestFan
    @NotYourBiggestFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great that you shout out Sergio's contributions. The band sure did him dirty. What a bummer

    • @Agostoic
      @Agostoic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's sad actually.

  • @JoshThewhiteDad
    @JoshThewhiteDad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Shoegaze really seems to be blowing up right now I’ve been a fan of shoegaze for about 3-4 years now
    And for awhile I couldn’t find a single person who listened to and or knew what it was

  • @diogeneslantern18
    @diogeneslantern18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Jaguars/Jazzmasters are simply the most best guitars. Aesthetically they are beautifullllll.

  • @rethabilefeni4694
    @rethabilefeni4694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    my favorite band of all time (2. TOOL, 3. Nirvana, 4. System of A Down, 5. A Perfect Circle) and one of my favorite albums from their catalog.
    1. Around The Fur
    2. White Pony
    3. Saturday Night Wrist
    4. Koi No Yokan
    5. Deftones (Self Titled Album).
    the fusion of Nu Metal, Shoegaze, and Pop Melodies distinguishes them from all the other bands. i'm tryna replicate their sound and aesthetic on my upcoming project(s). a fan from South Africa.

    • @dsxa918
      @dsxa918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dare you rank TOOL, similarly?

    • @Carlos-ms1yx
      @Carlos-ms1yx ปีที่แล้ว

      Solid

  • @Jacecel
    @Jacecel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Glad that you made another Deftones video!

  • @JillyMaysHere
    @JillyMaysHere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's a very gorgeous and mesmerizing song.

  • @CFChristian
    @CFChristian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dude. That intro was a) played by Chino and b) absolutely perfect.

  • @LRM5195
    @LRM5195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Koi perfected their “new” sound imo. Such a beautiful album front to back. I know people say Diamond Eyes does what Koi does but I disagree, there’s a vibe to Koi that DE doesn’t have. It’s celestial.

    • @Agostoic
      @Agostoic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      DE feels somehow like a greatest hits compilation, then Koi feels like the new shit.
      It's a step beyond and It shows.

    • @LRM5195
      @LRM5195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Agostoic DE is great individually but as an album, I don’t think it’s cohesive or flows well. Sounds a bit dry in production as well compared to Koi. Not terrible production by any means, just not as “spacey” as Koi.

  • @tasteinmusic3510
    @tasteinmusic3510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Entombed ❤

  • @mattc8347
    @mattc8347 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is song is a masterpiece and the ending is just perfect it hits you like a ton of bricks

  • @willtactix
    @willtactix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this song. I still have this cd. Might have to listen to it on a drive

  • @omnis1182
    @omnis1182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Could you maybe make a video discussing why fans don’t like Gore? I think it is a fantastic album and a lot of the criticisms people have of it, I find are elements on all of their other beloved albums.

    • @Riiyan
      @Riiyan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Simple answer is it sounds more like demos then actual Deftones studio album songs. It wasn't written by a majority of the band and because of that it sounds like a side project.

    • @armaganbaklacii
      @armaganbaklacii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      because of the lack of punchy and crunchy riffs. but i agree with you there are a lot of songs on gore that i love.

    • @976-EVIL
      @976-EVIL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its indeed a good record but the thing is that the production sounds trashy and not deep and shoegazy its like listening to a garage band first album and from my point of view it doesn’t sounds good, but i agree that putting that aside its a great album with a couple of great songs

    • @mint_1919
      @mint_1919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not to mention nearly the entire album was written by just Chino

    • @mint_1919
      @mint_1919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      May as well just renamed the band to Chino Moreno and the Deftones at that point.

  • @boywonders
    @boywonders 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video! Though I'd say Chino's Team Sleep project is maybe even more shoegaze-y

  • @grwl1x
    @grwl1x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i could've sworn this was called "how deftones stole from shoegaze" this morning

    • @fragezeichenwenn
      @fragezeichenwenn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was, but after the backlash in the comments he changed it.

    • @Agostoic
      @Agostoic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just a lil click-baity for the curious eye

  • @Sean-up6st
    @Sean-up6st ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Understanding Death Grips when?

  • @shoegazer93
    @shoegazer93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A Philadelphia band called HUM was really influential. And Failure

    • @Xeroforte
      @Xeroforte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hum are from Illinois

  • @TheAlbumsThatMadeMe
    @TheAlbumsThatMadeMe ปีที่แล้ว

    Deftones always threatened to go full shoegaze since their inception. Great album. Great video man, have a sun.

  • @Ratmatia
    @Ratmatia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They also took the riff from Little Dipper by HUM for Knife Prty

  • @avedic
    @avedic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    omergah! You're back! And with Deftones no less....and tying it into shoegaze no less!
    Nice.... :D

  • @mathgrindnoise
    @mathgrindnoise 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This town don't feel mine

  • @3rd_iimpact
    @3rd_iimpact 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorite deftones album next to around the fur.

  • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
    @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dude where’d you go?

    • @TheBoratObama
      @TheBoratObama 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same question -- just found some cool vids on The Mars Volta and the dude just dissapeared. Hope he's okay though.

    • @arran4285
      @arran4285 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheBoratObama There a instagram post from 5 days ago

  • @rohanjani9055
    @rohanjani9055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please make a video on John Butler Trio.

  • @Carlos-ms1yx
    @Carlos-ms1yx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Koi No Yokan is their best album

  • @constantine6490
    @constantine6490 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Gathering is an interesting band. Definetely needs a video.

  • @sonorastar2239
    @sonorastar2239 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For me, Rosemary is a post-metal song. Similar with the Chino's side project Palms.

  • @heirofwesteros
    @heirofwesteros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    DEFTONES IS SHOEGAZE CONFIRMED LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOOO!!!

  • @m0rty161
    @m0rty161 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you do Red by King Crimson? You did a Court video a while ago, and while that album is great, it misrepresents what King Crimson is (sort of like Creep) and so many people listen to Court and only Court that some of us in the community call them "courtheads". I think Red is a masterpiece and one of if not the greatest album ever made. Hell, maybe you could do a tour through all the albums to show all the different things they tried, from In the Court of the Crimson King to Larks Tongues In Aspic, to Lizard, Red, Thrak, Discipline, Three of a Perfect Pair, The Power to Believe, all the distinct eras of King Crimson.

  • @LuiTunes
    @LuiTunes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting! Really enjoyed it. DEFTONES parted ways with Sergio Vega :(

  • @eric_stewart
    @eric_stewart ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. FYI it was Chino that played the clean guitar parts on this song

  • @malvonanaliseiv8629
    @malvonanaliseiv8629 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    White dot gang, lets gooooooo. All jokes aside, killer video, tnx for the hard work man, keep it up!

  • @kristianbutler5443
    @kristianbutler5443 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see an understanding sevendust video 😊

  • @trekgreenwood6743
    @trekgreenwood6743 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a video essay on Frank Zappa- Joe’s Garage? Really underrated and rich concept album with lots of sounds, commentary and themes.

  • @MrCHR-o8v
    @MrCHR-o8v 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    STOLE is a pretty strong word man... wrong choice of words I think.

    • @1serious0mfr
      @1serious0mfr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you’re a musician... you steal

    • @MrCHR-o8v
      @MrCHR-o8v 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1serious0mfr again steal is not the word I would use.

  • @tinfoil6981
    @tinfoil6981 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have a dead pixel on your camera right in the center of the screen lol. If you skip to 1:06 its right between your eyes kinda.

  • @felipedepaulalopes3405
    @felipedepaulalopes3405 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should do a post rock video, like undestanding MONO or Mogwai. please? 🥺

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw MONO live last year. Epic band. They played at a local church. The scenery and their music was perfect together. Mogwai is cool too. I'll see what i can do.

  • @mattmiller4821
    @mattmiller4821 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never been able to get into the self titled album.

  • @Pablowest4life
    @Pablowest4life ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do “Understanding Sleep Token”? 👀

  • @joaodmveigas
    @joaodmveigas ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make a video about Paramore?

  • @CidicVicious
    @CidicVicious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why say STOLE?! They were inspired by and put their own stamp on the sound.

    • @ninja_tony
      @ninja_tony 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn’t say anything was stolen. The whole point of the video was that they were inspired by those styles of music and bands. There’s nothing wrong with that, and he never said there was.

  • @fharidvalencia2068
    @fharidvalencia2068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Koi No Yokan should be a human right

  • @deathkampdrone
    @deathkampdrone ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Hexagram might be their most shoegaze song however

  • @nobetter7747
    @nobetter7747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    they dont borrow they lowkey been shoegaze since the very beginning before abe became drummer.

  • @ch13frnk
    @ch13frnk ปีที่แล้ว

    Riviere...

  • @jigf139
    @jigf139 ปีที่แล้ว

    do Incubus
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ambientblow7571
    @ambientblow7571 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👌💜🎶

  • @Directorkey718
    @Directorkey718 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see DEFTONES, I click.

  • @nibblees646
    @nibblees646 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lie Come back

  • @snixbae
    @snixbae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s called inspiration and influence from other sources ?but what I don’t understand. Why do you advertise that deftones did something bad as STOLEN instead of like.. “Deep dive into Deftones - Koi No Yokan”

    • @lkwalden7
      @lkwalden7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For clicks

  • @zdoesgame
    @zdoesgame 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Waffle House has found its new host.

  • @LivinRob
    @LivinRob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's called influence.

    • @ninja_tony
      @ninja_tony 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, that’s literally the point of the video