Ammo Required : Having Enough Ammunition
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- Fun Gun Gear Reviews Presents: "Ammo Required" Ammo is a key element in protecting your preps. Don't skimp on your ammo supply. Have enough ammo to be effective in a WROL / SHTF situation, otherwise, you have an expensive paperweight! Ammo prices are continuing to rise.
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I buy a few boxes of ammo every payday. I don't eat at restaurants, I cook at home. I can buy lost of ammo for the price of a few nice dinners out every month. Ammo will keep, a doggie bag meal won't.
Oath Keeper I am so glad for you, NEVER give up, stay ready & prepared. an old song goes: I see a bad moon on the rise. GOD BLESS YOU!!!
You must be single haha
That’s what me and my dad do every other friday we get 100 rounds of 556 and a brick of 22
And don’t forget that the restaurant culture is mostly run by leftists anyway. I have not been to the movies or out to fancy restaurants the day Obama got elected
That's kinda depressing. The fear of something happening keeps you from enjoying other things life has to offer because you're obsessed with stocking up ammo. A couple thousand rounds a year of 9mm and 5.56 is good for me. I definitely eat out, take my girl dancing, go to movie theatres, go on vacations etc. Still gotta enjoy life. What's the point in stocking up and not enjoying the freedoms you have? Might as well let em kill you.
people talking about buyin boxes of ammo for 5$ brings a tear to my eye. Where in 2020 :(
Mine to here in Greece we buy ammo for 17 to 20 the 9mm
I just bought 2 boxes of Browning hollow points .45 cal for $51. That was only 40 rounds. 😞
He is talking about the empty can. Not the ammo itself.
@@panagiotisemmanuilidis5521 Can civilians own guns in Greece?
@@Phoenix_Atlas they can but they have to do a lot of paperwork and to join competitions twice a month to keep it. You can't have one just for protection in your home. That sucks
My mother-in-law cleaned out her garage, and found some ammo that was sitting on a shelf for over 30 years. Some of the boxes had rotted away to almost nothing. She was afraid to touch them, and called me to dispose of them. So I did, and not a single misfire out of 300 rounds. 22lr, 38special, and 9mm. Just imagine how long it would last in ammo cans with water tight lids.
RANDY DAVIS Sweeeet ;) Also love your method of "disposal" LOL
Anyone else need to dispose of more ammo, just let me know.
RANDY DAVIS Good story. I learned as a child from my Grandfather to rotate your ammo stores and shoot up the old stuff first. Thats my practice ammo while I fill a mag or a cylinder with the new stuff, its the old stuff that goes to the range with me.
RANDY DAVIS that one way to get ammo and possibly be paid for it.
cause whats better thatn being paid for having fun right?
Those boxes are collectible unless totally ruined.
I've been buying ammo for quite a while, my deal is... Set $30 aside for ammo each pay check and for every 3 boxes I buy, set one aside for the range. Ive been doing this for about 4-5 years and Its been working out quite nicely.
Weencie Rants - best idea.
I've actually done the opposite, stock 1 box for every 3 range boxes. I'm probably not quite as experienced of a shooter though, and I like to practice a lot. Still try to maintain 800-1000 rounds of 9mm and 556 though
You NEVER have ‘enough’ ammo, especially for your primary rifle - sidearms ok, 500-1k.., but for my rifles I never stop ~ you can stop when you take that Dirt Nap🇺🇸
Everyone that is making an effort of some sort deserves a thumbs up! We are doing our best.
I bet it has that calculates to a real nice little cache.
you can never have too much
Ammo
Gold
long term storage food
water stored
You also want vacuum sealed spices, they keep food fresh and make it taste good when you have been eating the same food over and over again
M_ Hub awesome list. Would add medication ie tylenol motrin
Or weapons these days
Ammo is like guns, If you know how much you have, you don't have enough.
Jesse Toms I've sold ammo for what
when, I got stationed in Hawaii from san diego, they wont let you take ammo on that plane. so I buried it at my house. some in ammo cans, some in Rubbermaid boxes in garbage bags wrapped in duct tape w/plywood on top. came back 8 years later dug it up and everything was fine. I rented my home while I was gone, but I never worried they would find it. it was about four feet down. I bought some cheap land in CA and WA states with the intention of starting some caches.
That was a smart idea!!!! One day, we may have to do the same thing if the libturds get a majority in the senate & house!!!! God help us!!
Awsome
Nice. Plan to spread the bounty for my birthday celebration?
Awesome, so to speak.
Approaching 20,000 rounds. Several different calibers including 12 Ga. shotgun but mostly 5.56, 9mm, and 22LR. I will likely not stop buying because with decent storage methods, it will be good for decades. Someday my kids and grand kids may not be able to procure the stuff. As well I stock enough spare parts to rebuild 2 AR's 3 times. It is all kept in different locations in various methods of storage and hidden. Take no chances fellas.
I hate to say this, but if they can procure it, they probably won't be allowed to possess or shoot it either - if they even have guns to put it in.
If SHTF, ammo might be one of the bartering units (if you dare to spare...) That and water.
With the uncertainty in our Goverment to seize our guns and, limit ammo purchases, I believe it’s important to prepare to protect our families and, communities. You only need to see what other states are already doing to limit our 2nd amendment freedoms.
Mike Gunter
You are so correct. I live in NJ and they will try and take our guns before too long. I’m sure within the next few years we will be at a point of turn them in or be a criminal. At that point I may look to leave the state.
We never wanted Tyranny should just go ahead and leave. Why continue to stay?
Pro tip, throw in a silica gel pack in each tin, on the off chance that moisture gets in, that will help augment your dry keeping.
That is a very great idea! THANKS!!
I always have 3-4 packets in each can.
my Dad does That.
definitely...
He said he live in Colorado which is very dry to begin with
In South Africa we are only allowed to have 200 rounds per calibre. But we have a way around that for the average Joe. Store components. By law we are control by the amount of primers and powder. 2400 primers per calibre and max 2400g of gun powder. . . Enjoy out freedom regards firearms and make sure not to loose your rights. Speaking out of experience from a country with one of the highest rape and murder rate in the world. . .
I hear things are getting stressful for white people in South Africa with race relations and all.. I'd love to hear your take of the whole situation there.. Like do you worry at all? That's one place I'd definitely have lots of guns/ammo, food, water, ect stored up for in case shtf
cj spicy Yes I am a white South African, things are bad in SA. Friends of us that's abroad tell me that they are not informed, it's as if the median is censoring what is going on. I don't leave my house armed, people are preparing for what's described as total loss of law. . . Political SA with the crime and racism is a ticking bomb. . . Don't be fooled with the o SA is so democratic and equal rights shit it's all a game and frond to the world.
Ya I've been keeping my ear to SA.. You only hear about what is going on there in alternative media sources like here on youtube. I live in the U.S myself and I can confirm that a lot of people I know aren't informed with the problems you guys are facing these days.
Ya I hear other media try to say that it's a made up problem that doesn't exist. But I see too much evidence showing that SA is indeed a "ticking bomb" -as you say. I see and hear a lot of black political parties there beating the race war drum along with many hate crimes/murders towards white people. What's with the land they're trying to take from whites and all that?
Well, I hope stuff calms down there and everything works out.. Stay safe
Oh it's still called South Africa? I thought they renamed it Zimbabwe 2.0
Dustin Young all the way down hill
It's better to have extra ammo and don't need it than have less ammo and need it.
I always hear right wingers say that about guns and ammo but cant be bothered to wear a mask in public.
The best remark
Josiah Silas Michael ❄️
@@chairmanm3ow Because masks make it 30% more likely for you to get the virus. Stop being a sheep, stop bring a snowflake, do your research instead of watching cnn
@@blbreptiles4126 I don't watch CNN. How much Fox News are you on?
I agree 100%. I keep my ammo in 50 cal military cans. I also add some silica gel packets to help prevent moisture buildup.
My Goal 45 thousand million rounds
That's everyones goal....but who's got the money for it?
Bill Gates could afford twice that
So if a billion Islamo-Fascist Communist Chinese Zombies come over the hills and try to eat your brains... You'll only have about 45 rounds a piece. And you call yourself a prepper? :)
LMOA.......!!!!!
You talking about .22lr?
Rbber seals should ONLY be wiped with Silicon !! ANY petroleum base oil, etc....WILL rot the rubber seal.
+Chris Rochow Yea cringed a bit when I herd grease or oil. Perhaps meant somethinh other than petroleum products, but petroleum products I s what will thing of when the hear greas or oil. I admit I didn't have an immediate recommendation, but understood there was something better to look for to use For the most part there's no need to open a can after it's filled and latched, so doing nothing my be the best option, if the seal is still pliable
waswestka
waswestkan
Definitely not petroleum based lubricant for rubber seals and I sincerely hope people are doing some research and reading and not only relying on the information provided by TH-cam personalities.
My new CY Tactical Realtree Original Camo 12 Gauge Semiautomatic Shotgun has a rubber o ring where the load piston goes, use silicon there?
I just wanted to say THANK YOU for everything you do for the gun community. Before i found you i was left either jumping from TH-cam channel to TH-cam channel in search for the information i was looking for or scrolling through pages upon pages of forums full of trolls who offer anything but answers. But since i've found you i've literally found everything i'm looking for on one channel. You have created a one stop shop for reliable/logical/informative information.
Here in Norway, I pay approx $375-400 for a box of 1.250 rounds when I go to surplus stores. 5.56 in 55grains. Also get that cool M2A1 green box with it. If you buy 5+ boxes, they useally give you a 10-25% rebate.
I'm moving to Norway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hah! You cant buy guns in Norway.
XD
( This is sarcasm and a joke about Europe and how anti gun they are.)
About the same here where I'm at 1000 for 275 or there's also a place that sells barrels of 5.56 and 7.62 which is 15000 rounds for 2400
Palmetto State Armory often has 55 grain 5.56 for $299 (after $50 mail in rebate) for 1000 rds and 10 Magpul 30 rd pmags (that's worth over $100 right there...so ~$200 for the ammo...$0.20/rd...)
Gerry Matheson - I have bought combo that from them. Great value!!!
Now I just have to be able to sneak more ammo past my accountant I.e my wife.
Check out the sites I suggested... Amazing prices! The only thing that sucks is that you have to pay $20 for shipping, but who cares when you are saving a shitload?
Check out Evergladesammo they are out of Florida and have free shipping on bulk orders. I ordered 4,000 9mm and ended up with an extra 50 or so for load testing.
I feel that pain! Thank God she's making the corner with the election bs going on 😥
@John Pike: Thanks for the tip!
LOOSE UNIT.......
THAT IS SOME FUNNY SHIT......!!!!!!
10,000 rounds of .223/5.56
10,000 rounds of .308/7.62x51
10,000 rounds of 7.62x39
5,000 rounds of 7.62x54r
10,000 rounds of 9mm
10,000 rounds of .40 S&W
10,000 rounds of .45 ACP
1,000 rounds of .357 magnum
5,000 rounds of 6.5 Creedmoor
1,000 rounds of .338 lapua
then I woke up
+John Doe I was about to compliment and congratulate you, then I clicked "read more". But I believe you can realize your dreams, just find a gun store close to your bank, and never leave the bank without going to the gun store, then only shoot what you reload, and always reload what you shoot. Then in no time, you'll be able to arm your extended family, or whole neighbor hood, or something. Just keep in mind, your gonna need help if you ever need to carry or move all that ammo.
Jeremiah Willis I'm working on my stash day by day my friend. Tuesday and Thursday I make the rounds in search of ammo. I'm always online hunting for deals as well. When I go to the range I pick up brass people leave on the ground to reload. It's getting up there, the problem is I shoot a lot too lol so I spend a lot of time reloading as well. Best of luck with your stash my friend I hope everything works out for you and thank you for the tips.
***** I know of people who possess excess of 1 million rounds of ammunition for their firearms. They're not on any watch list
+John Doe Yea, because if you were on a watch list, they'd tell you lol.
Immortalkalashnikov You wouldn't be able to fly or obtain a passport. Both were done and he traveled through multiple countries while doing so. The government has no record of how much ammo you buy, therefore making you ineligible for a watch list lol. They have bigger fish to fry than a dude who fears what's inevitable.
I can't justify 1000 per gun but I do keep 2500 per caliber except for 22 which I keep 10,000 rounds. My problem is deciding where to spend my money. Guns, magazines, ammo????????
Sorry if this is a stupid question but why more 22 than other fighting calibers? Just because its light? Or will it be used more?
@@scottasf8864 I guess Cruz it's cheaper. You can use that for taking down small game and keep the rest for self defense.
@@scottasf8864 FOR ME ITS BECAUSE ITS CHEAP TO BEGIN WITH, ITS LIGHT FOR TWO AND THREE ITS A LOT QUIETER ROUND. AND YOU CAN KILL UP TO DEER SIZE GAME IF SHOT PLACEMENT IS GOOD. IM THE SAME WAY. I DO STOCK ALL MY LARGER CALIBERS IN LARGE QUANTITIES BUT MY .22 LR AND .22 MAGNUM ARE INFINATELY LARGER QUANTITIES.
@@margaretchriskurtz3819 my nephew takes down boars with 22lr. My dad used 30-30 lever Winchester. Me I don't hunt but trust in a semi-auto 308 and 5.56 larger quantities on the 5.56 which is a 22 caliber right. Here in Hawaii our magazines are limited to 10 rounds so think I would rather have 10 rounds of 308 than 5.56 at times depending on the range I need to place shots.
1k of ammo is reasonable. Shotguns, I keep 300 bird shots, and 50 each of slugs and buckshot. Good video!
Meh...I just keep a 30cal ammo can for each caliber and stick em in my coat closet. I can fit 700 9mm, 120 12g, at least 600 7.62x39 and 223 in each
Nell Acda
your gonna want a lot more high powered shotgun loads than that. At least buckshot. I like to keep at least 150-200 high powered shells like slugs and buckshot.
I bought a tuna of 223 when i bought my gun ,i have always bought ammo and kept stocked up .i have ammo 30 years old ,shot gun and 22
My wife and I each have a 9mm. Currently we have around 700 rounds to share. I think we are going to stop purchasing for now. The reason being if we find ourselves in a situation in which we have to become mobile, carrying 1000 rounds each isn't feasible. We do believe in being ready in the event SHTF but find it more practical to be proficient in the firearm.
Mistake
I was asked once by a militia member if I owned a 5.56 rifle or 9mm pistol, and I replied I did not own a 9mm pistol. He told me I should buy one and I asked why. He replied that not if - but when SHTF - 9mm ammo will be laying all over the ground along with 5.56 because both are so popular of a cartridge Think. About. It.---
@Bumpy if that is true then it will only make sense that 9mm pistols will be laying around too. My guess is the militia guy will be one of the first to be scavenged.
@@Southernguitar74 no guns will be worth more than ammo. sure guns are worthless without ammo, but ammo is more useless without a gun. id rather find a gun first that I can use later on with ammo than vice versa.
@@Bumpyi64 Nothing will be laying around, this isn't a Call of Duty lobby. If your plan is to raid a man's corpse, then you should take a hard look at yourself
I've got some 303 Brittish that was packed in 1942 in ammo cans and came out on a machine gun belt. I bought it years ago back in the 90's at a gun show. It all still fires just fine. I have a little over 750,000 rounds of 22LR, but we like to shoot our 22s a lot so we need to have enough to make it through the shortages.
You are part of the reason for shortages of .22 ammo. People hoarding ammo is the only reason there is shortages of .22 ammo.
Good advice. I started buying a brick of .22 LR every time I saw it on sale, ( usually Kmart ). This was 33 years ago and I have enough to last my lifetime. I have not had to purchase any in 20 years. Keep them in ammo cans with a few desiccant packs and still shoot just fine. As to reloading, I am tempted but don't shoot often enough to justify it. The exception being shotgun shells. Everyone that owns a shotgun should reload. Super simple, super cheap, and way better quality. I bought a Lee load all for $30 in 1984 and still use it to this day.
No grease or oil on rubber, it will deteriorate rubber; use silicon.
Never grease on that rubber seal grease will attack that rubber seal not over night but eventually it will ,use a protector for tires like a cleaner that leaves a dry film spray it on a rag and wipe lightly (do not spray on )and keep the rubber pliable.grease and oil will break rubber down over time.
Great video! All I can say is that if my house ever catches on fire - RUN! lol Things would get "exciting" when my ammo supply cooks off...
Scott
Don't forget food and water guys. If you're in a situation when you need this much ammo or even less, food and water is a necessity. I have always thought of it as a strong triangle and if anything is lacking it will not sustain itself. Top point you have Shelter/heat seconded point you have Food/Water/ Third point you have guns and ammunition.
Personally I would take food and water over shelter and heat. I am well adjusted to the cold, and can sleep almost anywhere in almost any position (I get a lot of shit from friends cuz I freak them out sometimes). I would do fine sleeping in the bush under a tree using roots as a mattress as long as I had sustainance
Cheesus Sliced
I don't know what the terrain and weather patterns are like in your AO, but even hobos seek shelter when it's available. You might want to invest in a 4-season sleeping bag with a gortex bivy cover at the very least. And everyone is subject to hypothermia.
Cheesus Sliced
drunk pass out "sleeping" positions don't count LOL
Everybody knows that if you have a million rounds of ammo you do not need water or food...you survive by opening up your ammo can and looking at all the brass n lead....
gnarly0531
I have been known to sleep in positions that make me look like my neck is broken, and I have never done this while drunk. That is probably the most surprising part. Also, as long as I am clothed I can handle almost freezing temperatures (just pants and a t-shirt). A little more clothes if its below freezing, shelter only if it is raining.
I live on a fixed income. I am a 9 year cancer Survivor. I do own several different calibers of weapons. I look forward to all of your videos. I try to keep an effective amount of ammo in stock. Thank you and all of the other TH-cam weapons video producers. May God Bless and keep all of you well…Amen
how much ammo do you have? and what calibers?
If he asks where you live, you better get nervous.
Jim Lewis Zombie apocalypse is more plausible danger than cancer.
You write very well for being nine
Ammo these days is good as GOLD.... :)
I'd rather have ammo than gold.
Phil Hall Don’t forget Toilet Paper, it has a lot of uses let me tell you
I keep a lot of it around my house
I live by the rule that you can never have enough ammo
I miss the days of 6-8 dollar 50 cal ammo cans
+raider762 I get where you are coming from but dude, how many .50 cal ammo cans are you going to buy? They are still pretty cheap too, i saw them for like 17 bucks a pop. Sure that is like 2 times what it used to be but lets be honest, its not that much.
+george phillips I wasn't alive when they were 6-8 dollars each but really for around $15 that's still a great deal for one, they're built to last.
50 cal ammo cans were 6-8 bucks only about 7 years ago from my local gun shop.
raider762 Depends on the area you live too I assume. I live in the most expensive place to live in the US . . . everything is triple the price it is elsewhere here.
raider762 this is 3 years late but currently MidwayUSA is selling .50 cal surplus cans for $6 a pop.
I agree with 1000 rounds per caliber for long guns. More than 1000 rounds of 7.62x39 for the SKS or AK makes sense to me. The steel case is cheap and I've found that TulaAmmo is superb. 7.62x54R surplus can be found for very reasonable prices. Two spam cans of 440 rounds gets you close to the 1000 mark and can be found online or at your LGS. Recently Swiss GP11 7.5x55 surplus was plentiful. This is really georgeous ammo, and match grade quality from the Swiss military. Pick up a K31 and this very accurate ammo and you really are prepared.
For handgun calibers I would store more like 5000 rounds. Handloading is really a big way to stock up at lower cost. Look into handloading and you won't be sorry,.
there are plenty of ways to make a little more income for accumulating shooting supplies, survival supplies etc. Personally, I donate plasma twice a week for 70 bucks. that's 280 bucks extra per month for whatever I think I need-- ammo, AR/glock add-ons and accessories, food storage, survival gear, guns, car repairs etc...
I would increase the amount to 1K per weapon and/or family member, using the same caliber/weapon system.
I have my own rule of "shoot one, buy two". If I buy one box, I only shoot half of it. I normally buy 2 boxes and shoot one. If you buy four, shoot two of them. By doing this I have built a supply of a few thousand rounds of .357Mag, .22LR, 12Ga., and 7.62x51.
I purchased a 22 target pistol before all this ammo hording. All I wanted to do was go shoot. I did have dreams and hopes of getting into some kind of shooting sports, but now
Its hard to get the ammo I need. I'm handicapped, its just as hard to get up, and sit in my chair hours before the store opens for a chance to buy a couple of box's of ammo, if
there's any left by the time I get in the store. 380 is getting scarce too, guess I need to get a 40 caliber, seems to be a lot of that on the shelves. Thanks for the video Scoot, keep
up the good work, I enjoy your videos :-)
Ammo currency of the new millennium. I agree 1000 rounds is the minimum for each weapon. The more ammo the more better lol. I ran out of factory box years ago while reloading now I use the plastic coffee cans they stack well in my little hidey-hole and they keep them dry. I label each can as to the caliber the bullet weight and what grain and brand of powder I used. a good idea when buying ammo powder primers etc is purchase it with a buddy in large quantities and split the hazmat fee or better yet get it waived.
We are all sitting on Gold with all our Ammo...! Got to love it! :)
I agree 500 to 1000 per gun
For primary rifle, I would like to double that.
Frank Priv MINIMUM. I like 25K for my "primary calibers", and 10K/gun for the .50's. :) "Ready to Party!!!"
Patriotgal1 Haha, I´lll be waiting for my Eurojackpot win.
It helped a lot, buying a most of it over a 20 year period. And getting 250K rounds of .30-'06 @ $0.035/rd(Yes- 3-1/2 CENTS/rd!) . . And .22LR @ $0.02/rd.. :)
Prices now days are way too high. I pay for 9mm 125gr FMJ 0,18€, .223 55gr FMJ 0,33€ and 7,62x39 surplus 0,22€.
Great video. Believe me, I wish I stocked up when I started in 2007. 9 was 100/1000 rounds.
No more than 1000 rounds of rifle, 300 rounds of pistol per location. The locations are your house and caches. The reason for that is if you need more than that, you are either dead or you are on the move and you aren't carrying that much weight at a fast pace. If you used your 1300 rounds of ammunition and are still alive, you probably stocked up on a lot of weapons and ammo from the dead people. If you are running low, you probably need to leave that area and go to one of your caches and restock. Each cache should have a full load out. Weapon, knife, ammo, food, quick shelter, fire starter, TOILET PAPER, and something to wash your nasty ass.
Lots of good ideas and preps expressed here. I take advice where I find it. As y'all can see from my name I suppress every caliber I own, and have been reloading for over 35 years. I have good storage, and supplies to load approx 14,000 rounds on hand at all times. Live in the country, have my own well, plenty of game, line of sight to gain entry is exactly 187 yds, expert rifle & pistol in military , 3 yrs combat, nationally civilian ranked (USPSA).
I'd rather die a wolf, than a sheep!
I "know a guy" that has over 20,000 rounds stored from 22lr to 223/556 including 9, 38, 40, 45 and 12ga. That comes out to less than 3000 rounds per firearm assuming only one of each caliber. A trip to the range can result in the use of 200 - 300 rounds so if you go once a month to practice (which is a reasonable amount of visits) you could end up shooting 10% of your stockpile in a year. If there is another major shortage you can continue shooting for ten years before running out (assuming no replenishment). Unless the total count of rounds is in the millions, it is not unreasonable.
There are almost as many videos out there telling people to buy thousands of rounds of ammo as there are wondering why there is an ammo shortage. I find this amusing.
Not really. There's an ammunition shortage not because people are stockpiling it (at least not entirely), but because gun ownership is continuing to increase at a rate that ammunition manufacturers haven't (or can't) keep up with. I can't say whether this is a reaction to the War on Guns or what, but I thank the Democrats every day for voting Obama into office, just in case.
I always thought you should have more ammo for rifles than pistols.
Makes sense. I don't see a firefight using handguns. If it comes to a firefight, I would be grabbing my rifle and giving them some 7.62x51 to think about.
I see how much some people get mad just knowing someone has more ammo than them. I keep enough ammo to last me about 10 years. I started buying 20 years ago and rotate the older ammo to the front, I go shooting about every 3 months and shoot about 600 rounds off each time. I'm sure glad I did this, I know a lot of people that can't even shoot anymore for lack of ammo. Don't blame me because I was able to read the writing on the wall.
Unfortunately prices went way up because of this virus, watching everyone scramble now, what was a $9.99 box of 9mm range ammo is now 20$ 45acp 25$ for 50 and so on....
Triggersnob I see local gun stores here in Tx charging $40 for 50 rounds of 9mm. It’s out of control. Praying this to will pass
Lucky gunner’s prices looked fairly normal when I checked about 2 weeks ago. I’ve heard cheaper than dirt has been price gouging, but I didn’t confirm for myself.
If you buy a 2000 dollar gun it becomes a 2000 dollar war club without ammo
I've been Prepping for over 40 years. I still have a lot of ammo from 1980 that has been in temperature controlled building in ammo cans and still good. I recommend 1000 rounds minimum for each rifle, 500 rounds for each handgun/pistol minimum and 500 rounds for each shotgun minimum. I also recommend 21 magazines for each rifle minimum and 12 magazines for each pistol minimum. More of everything if you can afford it. My choices, not necessarily your needs or wants are 308, 556, 12GA, 9mm and 22lr. Be safe my friends.
Ammunition gets scarce in a crisis situation, but how much is ever USED in a crisis situation? Just askin'
PS - I do keep about 1,000 rounds (more for 9mm bc I use that much in a month at the range).
If the SHTF, ammo will be more valuable than gold! If you have all you'll need and a lot more, you can trade for things you may need!
@@jimproietti6822 My money is on booze, just behind food and clean water. A shot of 40 percent might be worth more than a shot of 40 S&W
@@jimproietti6822 never trade ammo. You're just giving someone the ability to hurt you.
As to the original post, the short answer is that nobody knows. This is all just wild conjecture. What someone in downtown metropolis needs will be different from what someone on the outskirts of Smallville needs. And much of it is pure fantasy. Here's something to think about... are you going to get through that 1,000 rounds before someone else gets you? If things are so dangerous that 1,000 rounds seems inadequate what, realistically, is your life expectancy? Would another 1,000 extend that?
I 100% agree with storing ammo! I do the same thing you stated about buying some here and there at least once a week I purchase a box of good quality ammo and something I can plink with and I now have close to 10,000 rounds of 5.56 saved up that I don't shoot. ... now that I have gotten to 10k of that im switching to my handgun ammo until I get 10k of each caliber I own lol it's funny to think I own close to $5000 in ammo for a just incase situation but I think it's money well spent especially if it comes to the point of actually needing it!
I don't have nearly that much ammo, but I do have a good bit saved up for each amount. For instance, I have over 500 rounds of 12 gauge saved up, mostly buckshot. The buckshot goes in ammo cans and the birdshot is left out in the open. I always make sure to rotate my stock when I do this, just in case.
mc_4peace about eight years hahaha but im now sitting at 15,000 rounds of 5.56 the previous 10,000 was all store bought 62g and this last 5,000 has come from me getting in to reloading. .. previously when I was purchasing it I was paying anywhere from $11-18/20 rounds because this was the stuff I was storing for more of a count your life on it situation if you will but with reloading I have been able to tinker with my loads and get what I feel is a superior trajectory for around $5-5.50/20 rounds allowing me to be able to stock up close to 100 rounds each time compared to the 20 each time... although when I started reloading I went quite crazy and loaded close to 4,500 rounds once I figured out a recipe I liked haha I have now moved on to my 300 win mag and have close to 650 rounds of that and will stop once I hit the 1000 round mark... I have also been able to start reloading some pretty hoppy 9mm that I will probably stop at 10,000 with I already have 4,000 loaded up for it... im not just storing for me it is also my wife that I have ammo for... I know I feel like im crazy for having that much but if I dont ever have to use it I can always just shoot it lol or pass it along to my children. .. im not so concerned with a new world order or some sort of invasion what im mostly concerned with is the government making ammunition either hard to afford or impossible to even find... so in that event at least I will have a stockpile of what I would consider an item more valuable than gold
10k+ rounds of 5.56/223
2500+ rounds 338 Lapua
5000+ rounds 45 acp
8000+ rounds 9mm
Well over 20K 22lr rimfire
Unfortunately I lost all my guns into a volcano when I accidentally tripped at the top. 😢
I try to keep 3k-4k rounds per caliber (except 12ga bc of cost). Don't have a lot of different caliber guns either (so I don't have to buy several different calibers of ammo) but I do have a few guns. I have (3) 5.56, (4) 9mm, (3) .22lr, and (2) 12ga. It might seem weird but I like only having to buy 4 different calibers of ammo. I know there are others that do the same.
Actually, your idea is very practical and sensible, as the calibers you've chosen to standardize on are pretty common and should be "fairly" easy to locate and purchase. Unless you have a specific firearm that you need to feed like a hunting rifle, there really isn't much point in stocking up on exotic, or other such calibers you don't or rarely shoot.
I store 8000 rounds of every caliber (regardless of if I own the gun... you never know)
I also have two of the same gun for every gun I own (you never know)
I also have 7 bug out locations across the country
I have taught myself to fly planes and helicopters. I have bought a boat to go up to a remote bunker in the woods somewhere up north.
I also have a 7 year food supply in each bug out location
I own 46 rifles (23 different), 20 pistols and 8 shotguns.
I also bought over 8000 cigarettes for each bug out location, as well as plenty of beer and even some weed (I'm having trouble keeping it fresh though). (Great for bartering)
Each hidden bug out location has 4 different vehicles in, relevant to the terrain.
Each bug out location has 3 power generators (2 as back up), at least two drinkable water sources along with countless (thousands in each) water tablets.
Along with that, each bug out location has enough petrol for the generators to run for 5 years, as well as a 10 oil barrels at each location. I also store (varying amounts, between 30-60) large bottled gas at each location.
I also have stocked up on the necessities, like 3 spare gas masks for everyone in my family, along with over 1000 A3P3 filters. As well as vast amount of condoms, cash and other stuff like bedding, clothes, spare parts for everything mechanical we own, tools like chainsaws etc.
All bug out locations have enough living space for a bedroom each for a lot of my family, a kitchen, ultra hidden bunker, bathrooms and a few other rooms (depending on the location... it changes)
All bug out locations are underground but have a hidden bunker even further down we can hide in if people find us.
Murica, the land of the free and where we all feel safe.
when world war 3 happens, i'm your best friend oke?
I think all you're missing are some suitcase nuclear weapons. You never know. ;)
Shanezkool haha true ^^
Way to be on the FBI watch list lol
I don't believe you...
500 rounds of 12 gauge. A mix of 4 buck, 00 Buck, and Slug. .223/5.56 at least 2000 per rifle. ( plus at least 10, 30 round mags per riffle) Main pistol (say 9mm), 1000 minimum FMJs. 300 - 500 Premium self defense hollow points. For revolvers, 200-300 rounds on hand per caliber. Buy a bunch of 7.62x39 even if you don't have a gun in that caliber. It's cheap as hell to buy but it's not reloadable. Great barter item since it will be cheap to own but valuable to those who need it for their weapon systems..
You can store a lot more ammo per ammo box if you ditch the cardboard and plastic.
True, but if your gun blows up you're SOL without a lot number.
Would be interesting to see another update or post here from Sootch on thoughts and practices and things on this subject.
reloading your own ammo is an excellent way to go.... you stock brass / power and primers and some bullets and you can churn out whatever you need.
In the video, it was pointed out that ammo lasts a long time. In my experience that is not so when it came to shotgun shells. Regardless, it pays to rotate the inventory. It's wise to take an indelible marker and date each box of ammo. And just like it was while I was in the military, it's wiser to have fewer calibers of firearms making optimum use of your ammo inventory. GOD BLESS AMERICA!
i enjoy your videos a lot. Greetings from México.
I keep at least1200 rounds on hand for my 9mm, 22lr and 7.62x54r. Reload all but 22lr. New place for ammo for reloader like myself. Extreme Bullets in Idaho, 9mm, 500 bullets with 500 new primed brass for $100.00 and onlyu $5.00 shipping. Usinf for a few months now, and really love these guys and products.
I wonder how much ammo is stockpiled in the US. With an estimate of about 100 million guns how many rounds have been stockpiled? 10 billions? More?
I know, an accurate estimate is impossible. And maybe that's good ^.^
300 million guns in US
Dan Daniels Before specific dates ( somewhat prior to 1968 at least) not only were there limited firearm records but guns were not required to be serial numbered. No gun records either and no way of tracking them. It is likely that those were weapons not inventoried in any estimate of an accurate number. Also there would be no way of inventorying undeclared firearms that were not transferred through any governmental agency (ATF). It would be impossible to know how many such firearms exist for which there is no paperwork ( legally or not). The only way that numbers exist which can be used relate to those for which paperwork can be accounted for relating to A specific gun. That 300 million number is likely grossly understated.
I just got into firearms and I'm 18. I'm hoping to buy the C39v2 And Head Down Products Triton 10 billet AR-15 rifle. I personally am sitting a goal for myself to have at least 10,000 rounds for each and store that for a rainy day. :)
Carlos Martinez Good luck man. That's pretty ambitious but very wise coming from a young guy. If SHTF, ammo will be a form of currency and you should be in a good place.
+sakiusad during WW11,my Dad said Ammo was as good as Gold in occupied territories any where in the world
+Jeff McKee what did your mom say, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all". Give him a break: He is in the right place compared to watching some you tube about Miley Cyrus or some video game. We all need to find similarities not differences. It's going to get bad out here and lets all be on the same side :-)
The standard combat/fighting load is from 80 rounds in WWII and Korean, to 120 rounds in Viet Nam, to as many mags as the individual soldier can carry, and with planned resupply from the ammo trucks behind the lines during an engagement. We are talking of stocking up on ammo went the prospect of re-supply in unknown, if ever.
I stockpile screwdrivers, when the shit hits the fan I will have more screwdrivers than anybody, just in case never know
toilet tissue too, right? because you're full of 💩💩💩
@zero: Really????
You can never have enough #2 robertsons!
You never have enough ammo
Sootch I agree 100% with you!! That’s exactly what I do! Pick up a box here and there! I store my ammo in Orange juice bottles (after they have been washed out and dried) then I put dry packs in them and never had an issue with my old ammo
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If a man if down to his last grain of rice before his last bullet, he has failed as a prepper.
While I believe that the ideal situation is to not run out of both, realistically there is only so much preparation a single person can do on their own. Hence, the idea of a group of like minded preppers getting together for mutual aid can make sense.
A grain of rice can't kill a squirrel, bird or rabbit to cook and eat. A bullet can
GioGuitarDude
Prepping involves many areas, and it is true that a bullet can kill a squirrel, a bird, or a rabbit, but a snare/small game trap and the knowledge to use it can harvest many edible animals as long as the wild game population holds out. And rice tastes better with meat.
neosteeled001 Yes but a bullet is much more rare than being able to replenish nutrients... Especially in a survival situation. A human can go almost a month without food. I wouldn't want to go 5 seconds without a gun and ammo in WROL
GioGuitarDude A human *possibly* could go a month without food, but a human couldn't go a day or two without food before becoming significantly weaker, slower, sickly, and curled over in hunger pains. I'd rather have food and hide than have a firearm with no food, having to rely on my ability to locate it for survival. In any scenario like this, small and large game will likely be hunted to near extinction.
What do you do for fire safety? Just curious. I have heard around where i live that the minute the FD hears a round go off - they just back off and let it burn. I know a gun vault would work, but with as much ammo that was shown in the video, you would need a monster vault! Thanks for any ideas!
That is a great question. I'm curious as well.
Ammo is not any more dangerous than any other flammable items. Without a chamber to contain the pressure the projectiles pop out without much force, pretty much a bb gun. Standard bunker gear is more than enough protection. A fire association had the same questions about ammo so they burned pallets full just to record data. Their findings showed firefighters should not be overly cautious of ammunition.
GS Wovoka You should look for the video of a fire marshal test of this issue. Pretty interesting. Like the last guy said, ammunition really poses no danger as far as a projectile. Raw reloading powder however, is another story.
cougar10ag Absolutely correct. If it is in a U.S. ammo can, it is contained, period. THAT is why our ammo cans are built so well.
@@thetobaccoguy1751 YES POWDER IS A VERY REAL HAZARD. AMMO IS LIKE FIREWORKS WHEN IT COOKS OFF. POWDER HOWEVER CAN BE A BOMB. THATS WHY MINE IS STORED IN AN INSULATED METAL TOOL BOX IN MY HOME WITH AN EXTINGUISHER IN THE ROOM WITH IT.
I find it's useful to date it, and use it in a FIFO order. Don't store it all in one location, keep the bulk of it at your primary location and squirrel small amounts in secondary locations.
Geeze, how are ya gonna carry all that during the end of the world? How about a 10/22 rifle and a ruger .22 target pistol? There are 137 .22 bullets in a pound. There's only 21 .243 bullets in a pound. There's only 20 .45's in a pound. My guns use the same ammo and both will kill a squirel, rabbit, coyote or small deer . If my pistol can't reach a bad guy my rifle will ventilate his knee cap way past 200 yards away. (and still have 136 bullets left in my pound) A range officer told a story of a guy who found his gdad's loaded .45 sidearm from WW2 that was wrapped in a cloth. He asked the officer to oil it up, went on the range and fired it using the same bullets in the same magazine that wasn't touched since 1945. Fired with no problems.
And where does one think they will be able to drive to? to their "bug out"?
THATS WHERE FRIENDS AND FAMILY COME IN. MY FAMILY HAVE ALL COORDINATED AND FORMULATED A PLAN FOR BUG OUT TIME. WE HAVE DESIGNATED THREE DESTINATIONS FOR ALL OF US TO MEET IN CASE SHTF. IT WILL DEPEND ON WHAT TIME OF DAY, WHAT TYPE OF SITUATION IS GOING ON AND HOW SOON WE CAN ALL RENDIVIUOS. FOR THE LOAD BEARING STUFF I HAVE THREE SONS, 32,28 AND 20. ALL OXES. EVEN MY TWO NIECES ARE FULL SIZED GALS. SOME OF US WILL BE DESIGNATED FOR FOOD WATER AND MEDICAL ESSENTIALS. I AM TASKED WITH SHELTER, WATER, AMMO, SINCE I RELOAD I DO FOR EVERYONE IN THE FAMILY. WE EACH TEND TO OUR TACTICAL NEEDS, TRANSPORTATION GRANDCHILDREN AND LOCATION MAINTAINANCE. OUR PLAN ISNT PERFECT BUT IN A SHTF SITUATION I BELIEVE WE ARE BETTER OFF THAN MANY. WE HAVE HAD THREE DRILLS THIS YEAR. WE ALL FEEL ITS ABOUT TO COME.
don't put oil or grease on the rubber seal, they will rot it. find something for rubber like brake fluid.
Brake fluid turns natural rubber into mush. Try dipping a piece of rubber halfway into brake fluid and in a few weeks the dipped half will grow 60% in size.
shooter77us
look at the gasket on brake master cyls and wheel cylinder kits, see if they aren't rubber
Brake seals are made of EPDM, which is a synthetic rubber. Older ammo cans have natural rubber seals and newer ammo cans have neoprene seals, neither of which is resistant to brake fluid. Go ahead and try lubing your ammo can seals with some, in a month they will be gummy and falling apart.
I'm wildly curious why you would lube a flat compression seal on a box. What would that even accomplish?
beats me, I don't anything with my seals
for years i only kept a small amount of ammo on hand , mostly defensive pistol ammo. then a little over a year ago i felt the urgency to really stock up, my wife and i went to cabelas and dropped almost 2k into an ammo stash all at once . 223, 22,9mm shotgun and 45. we could have went from walmart to walmart and probably got off cheaper , but everything we needed was right there in one spot and i WANTED IT . so now we have a couple thousand rounds on hand for each gun and have been adding to it . we go buy what we shoot for practice as we shoot . our stash is untouchable and is stored in ammo cans . have since started buying up some steel case stuff too which would be used last if shtf. we both feel alot better now and wish we had started just buying some along as you suggested . thanks for great videos
Best thing for the seal in those ammo cases is Vaseline.
SADDLE SOAP WORKS BETTER, NO PETROLEUM PRODUCTS IN IT THAT MAY DETERIORATE THE SEAL.
Nope! Vaseline is petroleum based (aka petroleum jelly). Over time that will deteriorate the rubber. Use only silicone! It actually protects and rejuvinates rubber.
shtf?? bug out??,,yep, and try to carry 2 guns + 1000rnds of ammo for each + survival gear + clothes, water, food, and all you need. Best weigh your total. Trying to carry 10k of 30-06 is not gonna get you far. And the issue the guy says about no gun, only a knife?? What kinda loony is that? He cant defend himself against ANY guy with a gun at more than arms length. The guy with the gun is gonna be able to kill others and TAKE whatever survival items they have. If he doesn't run into others with guns, who are more accurate or quicker than him, HE is gonna be the one who rules here.. its HE who can take what he wants. However, im not recommending guns only, but a good balance of guns and ammo, and other survival items. But the mentality of, all-I-need-is-a-good-knife,,,is sure a loser!! Regards,
Yes, as far as Walmart is concerned, go to the sports counter at 15 minutes before opening, usually 6:45. Go everyday until you get their best days down. I have not experienced the issues with 22 that most people have because I am proactive with it. This rule applies to cabelas as well. Early bird and all that.
what do u think about TULAMOE out of Russia steal casing?
It's what the Russians use. AKs were made for that stuff. For an AR, know whether or not your gun is reliable with it.
I use tulamo 223 only on bolt action. They're accurate within 100-150yds only though. I've been using federal 556 and I shoot an 8inch gong upto 500yds without much problems. With Tula, it gets unstable. But I buy a lot of it bec most of my hunting needs are shot within 150 yds...
Hey everyone, the greatest success that i've ever had was by following the Micaden Survive System (just google it) without a doubt the most useful survival i've tried.
Tulammo I’ve had not problems using 223 in my ar of course I clean every time I shot
Good plinking ammo. I don't have any reliability issues with my AR's, but beware of the coated steel cased ammo, as the barrel and chamber gets heated with rapid or prolonged gunfire, leaving a round in the chamber for a min can cause the gun to jam due to the polymer coating melting off the cases and slowly building up in your chamber, then it practically welds the case in place once it has a moment to cool. Then you need a cleaning rod to knock the shell out. I usually clean my AR after 3-500 rounds of this stuff, even the non coated cases, they won't cause stuck casings in the chamber, but they burn very dirty and it is considerably different than that of federal or Winchester ammunition. I wouldn't discredit Russian ammo, it's usually not an AR's favorite ammo. Though Walmart now carries federal American Eagle AR 223 cheaper than tulammo and it seems to function much better.
2000 rounds or more per firearm plus 6 extra magazines or more for rifles with detachable mags, at least 2 extra mags or more for handguns with detachable magazines, and 3 speed loaders for revolvers. Good video by the way.
Only use plumbers silicone on any seals!
For a SHTF and/or WROL situation I say 1000 Rd/cal/gun at a minimum. This is not accumulated over night. I set aside money each payday for buying ammo.
I agree to keep around a 1000 rounds per caliber (excluding 22). Of course if I only had one caliber I would keep more than a 1000 rounds. I would say that you would need 4 guns. A pistol for close personal protection. A good shotgun for bird. A 22 for small game. A large caliber for long range big game. Also pay attention to what this man is telling you, get to know your ammo and what you can hit. Remember what Jed said. "Never shoot twice. Shoot twice, they can find you."
I have to agree with the points you have made. For myself, my go to rifle is the old tried and true M-1 Garand. I have been shooting Lake City ammo made in the early 1950's and have had no trouble with it. That's 60 plus years old. It's all in how it is stored. I too believe in only using several Cals. It makes getting ammo a lot easier. I stick to 30.06, .40 cal, 9mm, and 12 gauge in 2 and 3/4 inch length, plus .22 for fun.
My dad and uncles never left a store without buying 1 or 2 boxes of shells and thats what they did their whole life in the 50's, 60's 70's and so on long before there was any shortages and that's what I've done all my life. My dad had so much ammo we had trouble finding places to store it so we had to build a cellar to put it in and I may have to do the same soon too ! It accumulates fast and we all reload too and that saves a lot of money.
Yes they are. Some don't say it on the packet. Some just say, "silica packet" or "silica gel", or just "silica". Sometimes they'll say desiccant, sometimes they'll just say moisture absorber.
The greatest thing that degrades smokless propellant is temperature change, like in an attic 100degF summer, 40degF winter. Store ammo in a cool dry place, like a frost free refrgerator or a basement/rootcellar. Even in the beat conditions, ammo degrades, I have DEN43 ammo Ball M2 AP 30-06. It will not defeat 1" steel at 100yards anymore. But, it is 70 years old.
The real answer is that it will likely cook off and explode but do no damage. Much less than the fire. In order to have a round be effective it needs to be in an enclosed tight area otherwise the energy will just go in every direction. The bullet would not have enough velocity to do any real damage.
Hello to all. I learned form my grandfather to keep a minimum of 1k per Battle rifle, 500 per Hand gun, 250 per Shotgun... That seems like enough ammo to be able to hold out, move out, or acquire if need be...
When I was in the Army in the mid to late 90's the 5.56 ammo was Vietnam era and was like new. Ammunition will obviously last decades.
Food for thought, in 1978 while in basic training we ate C rations that were packed in 1968. If it has a good seal who knows how long it will last. Thanks for your service.
500 rds of Fusion MSR - 300 rds of HST 147 grain 9mm - 1k CCI Mini Mags CPHP - 1k CCI SV - 500 rds CCI CPRN - 1k Winchester M22.
IMHO that's more than enough. Most important thing is to have at least one or two universal weapons , same caliber as police , security and military which today is 9mm. And if I have to run i'm taking my 10/22 (pack) and as much .22 ammo as I can carry with my 9mm and my Buckmark on my hip with 4 extra mags each. I won't even take the AR itself or 9mm ammo i'm sure i'll be able to get some down the road.
Unless you're part of an army when SHTF , stealth is going to be far more important than how much ammo you have stored imho.
I still have ammo from the 80's and it shoots great.
I use that same Walmart strategy. It's easy on the wallet and it keeps you out of Dutch with the old lady. Another strategy is buying in bulk with a friend or two. You get that low price per round and you don't have to blow so much cash.
I know this is an old video but still very good information for today.
Reloading, moreover bullet casting, is critical to stacking ammo for the everyday man. I don't keep a ton of my own cast loads stored up, but all the money I save allows me to redirect more funds towards other ammo I don't reload. A quick example, 1,000 rounds of 230 gr. .45 acp. costs me about $40. That's some serious cash savings.
I have over 12,000 rounds in my safe, but what good are rounds just stacked in ammo boxes? I keep over 4100 rounds loaded in magazines. Good to go! And by the way long term studies have shown keeping (good quality) magazines loaded does not wear out the spring.
It's a great idea to cheaply and easily line the cans with cardboard when storing loose in can. You can line 2-50 Cal cans with an old medium fedex shipping box. Do an end and side as one, then bottom separate. Stay safe and be well
i started small. 500 of each caliber, then i stashed that away and bought 500 more and so on..... after about a year i now have a full closet worth of ammo, plus the 500 extra that that i had started off with is sealed away at my sisters house.
Most serious preppers would tell you that the prioritization of needs to prepare for possible economic turmoil is the first get out of debt, then acquire food and water, some means of protection, and tools and land to "homestead". Once you have the basics squared away, then they recommend that you get precious metals as a hedge against inflation, since gold and silver coinage is universally recognized as money that holds it's value. (Homestead could be simply be a place you own outright).
Some recommend purchasing weapons in 5.56, 7.62, 9mm, so that you have a good chance of scavenging ammo after the SHTF. I think thats a reasonable argument. Some argue you should focus on a single caliber and stock up. But, what caliber should you buy? I've settled on the 375 mag. Revolvers, semi-autos, lever actions, bolt actions, can all be chambered in 357. The 357 is unique in the fact that it can be a self-defense round at the same time an effective hunting round through a 16" barrel. I once thought 9mm would fill this gap, but for larger game, even through a carbine, it;'s not effective. 357 is also not exceptionally expensive. I've settled on the JSP (jacketed soft point) as the universal round for all needs. The velocity of the 357 makes the JSP respond like a hollow point. You make your choice.
It's not just about buying a certain amount of ammo for each gun. But buying guns for certain types of ammo. I like to keep it simple. For instance, I have a sks and ak47 in 7.62x39 (4k rounds). A sr22 pistol and marlin 60 (15k rounds). three 9mm handguns (3500 rounds). two 380's (2500 rounds). And two 20 gauge pump action shotguns (1000 rounds). Sure I'd like to have every gun made, but I don't want to have to worry about 25 different types of ammo for 25 different guns. Like I said, I like to keep it simple. I've got 11 weapons using just 5 types of ammo. Really makes it easy to pack for any occasion....
I have over 18,000 rounds in assorted calibers which I acquired since I started shooting in 1994. During a recent inventory, I saw price tags on the different boxes ranging from $4.99 to $29.99. I just added 3 more 100 round value packs in .380 at the cost of $140.00. If you think you got enough, then you got enough, and more power to you. Scootch's point is to buy amounts of ammo that you can afford regularly over a period of time.
#2 Stabilizers are added to prevent or slow down self-decomposition of propellants: Diphenylamine, Petroleum jelly, Calcium carbonate, Magnesium oxide, Sodium bicarbonate, beta-naphthol methyl ether, Amyl alcohol (obsolete), Aniline (obsolete). Stabilizers are added in the amount of 0.5-2% of the total amount of the formulation; higher amounts tend to degrade its ballistic properties.