I had a TV Licence for every moment that I was legally obliged to have one, but now that I no longer watch Broadcast TV, I don't need one, so I no longer have to pay for one.
Let me get this straight. If you dont pay for a tv licence, you could go to prison, where you can have a tv in your cell, and dont have to pay for a tv licence. we are being treated like mugs.
Totally false, that's what they want you to believe. Nobody in the history of tv licencing has ever went to jail for not having a licence. People go to jail because they refuse or can't pay the fines imposed in court if it does that far. 2 separate things.
@@RobBeales It's simple, if you admit by talking to goons your were watching EastEnders, on the doorstep, they can take you to court. Most cases the courts will simply just fine you. How you deal with it is up to you. Pay it job done. That is over and done with. However, not paying the fine imposed by the courts, is classed as contempt of court, and at that point they can put you in prison for not paying the fine. That's why people end up in jail. Not for not paying the licence. Hope that makes sense? To add you are not getting jailed for no licence, but for not paying the fine. Technically they are related, would be the same for any fine the court imposes, potential jail time. Doesn't matter the original offence, but in the case of a TV licence, if you pay the fine, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO JAIL. Having no licence is not a custodial sentence. This is where people think, or are led to believe that no licence= jail, it's not the case. All the courts can do is fine you, not even a criminal record.
7 years licence free for me. No regrets. Had over £1000 to spend on myself. Just went online to TV licensing and made the declaration. I don’t watch any LIVE broadcast. Never had a letter, never had a visit.
Interesting. Every interaction I've had with TV Licensing has prompted two to five years of laughable 'red' warning letters. Telling them you don't need one seems to are them open an investigation (their term for a junk mailing list). My mother used to get terrified when she came to my house and would see the 'red letters' to the point of tears. Eventually I just kept them in a sleeve next to the calendar, checking off each deadline that came and passed without any police raids or court cases. It took almost a decade to convince her I was right, included going through the fine print with her. She still buys a license. She doesn't need one but she's too terrified to 'risk it'.
I had that too for several years, but now I told them I've moved out. Then are sending letters to THE OCCUPIER, which I return each time as addressee not known. Let them sweat, I will never pay a penny to them anyway.
if they tried this type of licensing scam in the US there would be a complete massive revolt, how many homes in the US has a TV in every single room even the outside patios and washrooms.
@@aidiessThe license is to watch live broadcasts. You can own a TV to stream, play video games or watch DVDs. As long as you don't watch live TV, no license is required.
i took my own referendum and decided not to pay 7 yrs ago only had one mild letter no trouble since, im not paying them to tel me how bad i am for being white in my own BLOODY country,
You CAN have a TV though, and use it perfectly legally without a BBC TV licence providing you don't watch live TV, don't watch TV as it is being broadcast and don't use BBC iPlayer. It's a myth that you need a licence to own a TV set, you don't.
I've not had a license for about 3 years. When I first stopped it I got loads of letters so I rang the number to explain why I never needed a license. I had to sign a form to stop the harassment. The letters have started again and I'm not responding. If the salesman catches me in he will get the door closed in his face. Job done.
Yes the computer generated harassment letters start up after two years. I’m waiting for the latest one for April. (Jon normally gets his first and reads it out).
I haven't had a licence for 2 years but I don't watch any TV at all. I contacted them and told them I no longer need a licence and that was the end of it. No threatening letters no knocks on the door nothing. A tv licence is for watching everything. You can't turn round and say I am only watching ITV and channel 4 and not the BBC. They don't know that. That's why people get letters from them because there is every chance someone might say I don't need a licence but are still watching the BBC. That's why the licence is there to cover everything and covering all bases incase people are still watching the BBC without a licence.
@@lizvickers7156wrong, a tv licence is only required for watching LIVE ‘As it’s being broadcast tv’ and IPlayer. Any other channels, Netflix, Amazon Prime, On demand is paid for by subscription and advertising so no licence is required. Listen to what Jon is saying here then you’ll get the idea.
That’s the way to deal with it. Say nothing to them and close the door in their face. I done that to one of them a few years ago and the idiot climbed on my dodgy back garden fence (that had not long been hit by a whole ass tree that fell on it in a storm) to attempt to see into my main room and the entire fence came tumbling down on top of him 🤣. I heard the noise and just seen his wee legs sticking out under the fence.
I'm 38, not even had a TV set since I left my ex husband in 2018. I use Amazon Prime, Netflix, Now TV and occasionally Disney Plus, and haven't paid for a BBC TV licence since 2018. I don't need one because I don't watch live TV, I don't watch tv as it is being broadcast and I don't use iPlayer. I certainly don't miss it either!. Most of the stuff on iPlayer eventually makes its way onto Netflix, where it is perfectly legal to watch without a licence, just means you have to wait a few extra months, that's all.
I wouldnt waste your time and energy with those kind of people. They are far too programmed and unable to apply logic and sense to basic life situations
That's because stupid is a permanent condition. It's like my neighbor that said you had to be 28 to buy. Cigarettes, but what it said was if you're less 28 be prepared to show ID when buying cigarettes. We argued for 20 minutes about it before we went to the sign.
By mentioning page 3 , you straight away told us what socioeconomic group you fall into. And that type of newspaper was never considered real news. It was just put together using rather large print to make it easy for the likes of your sort to understand.
@@Chezombie me too on 19th sept.........the letter doesnt say that they will be attending on that date though, it says "visit approved" and asks "will you be in on.........." but doesnt actually state they will be visiting on the date displayed in the letter but people dont seem to understand that, its just a scare tactic to frighten people into paying because they know people will assume they will attend on that date and that some will even cough up to avoid it happening and it probably works too, sadly. even if one person pays after reading that letter then the letter is a success in their eyes regardless of how many are sent out i got one a few days back saying they have opened an investigation and needless to say i am terrified
We sadly have that model here in Sweden. If you have a tv or receiver of any kind, they will automatically assume that you are able to receive public service channels. But our license fee has been hidden within the tax bill. So everybody that works are automatically paying a fee to the public service every month. They kindly nearly halved the fee from over 2000 SEK a year to under 1300 SEK a year because so many are now paying through the tax bill that they felt that it was not necessary to charge a high fee anymore. It should be removed altogether.
Just to be clear the law says you need a licence to watch BROADCAST TV, not LIVE TV. No streaming service is broadcast, it is all on-demand, even when it is called live and so no licence is needed in law.
@@ditch3827 So if you just have a TV to run a PS1 or N64 on (consoles with no integrity capabilities) where the Ariel slot is being used up with the 64, that's fine?
@@Roadent1241 yup - the communications act 2003 says you need a licence to watch broadcast TV (ie signal that is broadcast). You don't need a licence to watch anything that is not broadcast.
@@Roadent1241 Yep - the law is 'watching or recording at time of transmission' - or thereabouts - owning a set capable of receiving transmissions is NOT (as far as I understand) a reason to get a licence?
Back in the 60s you apparently required a licence if you installed a TV. The courts ruled that fitting a plug on the end of the power supply lead of a TV in itself was sufficient to constitute installation even if you never plugged it in. In sum, possessing a TV was sufficient to incur liability to buy a licence.
Congrats. I've only just come to my senses, stopped paying last December. One other benefit: started getting free bog roll in the form of TV licensing mafia letters, threatening to send the boys round.
To be fair, in Judy's day even video recorders that were only used to play pre-recorded tapes had to be licenced, solely because they contained a TV tuner. I also seem to remember that retailers had to inform the licencing authority the details of every person buying a TV.
Why dont these people stick to reading an autocue instead of pontificating about subjects that they seem to know very little about! The other 3% work for the BBC.
So grateful for this video. I've not had a TV for 10 years but have just bought one to use as a larger monitor screen for my computer. I was concerned that I would now need a licence even though I NEVER watch TV programmes and don't even have an ariel connection. You have put my mind at rest, thank you.
I'm 55 this year and remember being in one of those vans when I was 8 or 9 as my uncle used to drive one. It had a huge antenna on the top and a light on a bench in the back to give the appearance of doing something. I'm VERY into tech (lift engineer) and remember laughing when my uncle told us they were fake. He's no longer with us but remember a conversation with him about 10 years ago saying he had to sign an NDA to drive it.
Yep as a kid about 12 yrs old i remember looking inside whilst sliding door was open. A desk and reem of paper on desk with lamp and a chair. 😂 They knew from records which address had or had t got a licence and with just three channels at the time they detected by the glow in the window floor flickering. No dvd or vhs those days 😂
lol they told me on the phone they can detect radiation from tvs that are on, after i told them to contact nasa as im sure they would love a system on that scale that does that,they went on to ask me why and i said if you can detect radiation from thaat distance emmiting from my tv im gonna need a hazmat suit to watch corry. they abruptly hung up. if yoou live in a village you probbably wont ever get a knock from them,its not worth the petrol lol.
Was it the case they can detect transmission but not reception, however I think TVs were then fitted with small transmitters in order to aid detection. I'd like to know the technical facts just out of curiosity.
About 20 or 30 years back, If you had a TV or video recorder CAPABLE OF RECEIVING any program over the air, you MUST have a TV licence. The TV and recorder (even if you only watched pre-recorded videos) must have a disabled aerial socket for exemption from the licence fee. Fast forward to now (when did it change?) the apparatus can still be capable of receiving but you only need to tell them that you don't watch live TV. Seems to me that the BBC tripped over their own feet on that one.
I have a tv in the bedroom for watching dvds on. There is no aerial connection in my bedroom so I cannot watch broadcast tv on if I wanted to. But as far as any tv inspector goes - the only thing I keep in the bedroom is a punch in the head.
Same. I don't have any connected to an aerial, I don't watch live or catch up TV, Use BBC iPlayer and I only use paid for streaming services. I don't want or will ever need one.
I remember many years ago seeing a newspaper story about an old lady in Wales who, through a weird land topography, could only get ITV. She still went to court and was found guilty of not paying her tv licence!
Not had a TV license for over 20 years. Once when i went to Argos to buy a TV, the sales assistant asked for my address, i obliged and gave her the wrong one and took the TV and left. Never had a knock or letter in all the time i’ve refused to pay!
Andy, are you obliged by law to give your address to a sales assistant when you buy a TV, because i've never heard of this. Maybe i need to get out more.
They insist nowadays that you pay for your TV with credit or debit card, so they have your details. NO cash, NO cheque. It hasn't been obligatory to give your name and address since July 2013, but try buying a TV set without having to give those details and see how far you get. They refuse to believe it but have your card details anyway.
according to tv licencing website the technology is so advanced that even the engineers dont understand how it works..........it could just be that you just dont get it
That's pretty much what the majority of modern TV sets are, internet enabled monitors with multiple uses. Even if you use one to watch pre recorded on demand services like Netflix you do NOT need to pay the BBC a penny.
This was implied to me when I cancelled my tv licence. TV Licensing implied that as I had a tv and “devices” that I needed a licence. Obvious nonsense. This ‘discussion’ went on for a time until they got fed up and transferred me to what they said was their “special” department 😂 That ‘special’ said the previous people were “over stepping the mark”. Of course, what was really happening was they were trying their best (unsuccessfully) to prevent another licence cancellation and they were doing it by hook or crook and failed, miserably.
I do my weekly shopping at Asda and Lidl, yesterday I got a threatening letter from Sainsburys saying I owed them money for being allowed to shop. 😂😂😂😂😂
I remember being told as a child that if you have a TV, 30+ yrs ago, then you did require a licence. I know when I got my first flat, I only had a B/W TV and licence to match. And it said on the back, if I wanted to watch my VHS tapes, then I had to get a colour licence too, as VHS had the ability to record in colour. So I left my VHS with my parents until I could afford a colour TV and licence. Then I think things started to change with the DVD players. I know my cousin had a visit, and he had no aerial of any type, or cable, and was using his TV as a monitor for his player. And as he couldn't record or watch any live or recorded programmes, they let him be. I think with the net, gaming, and later streaming services, I think that was where they changed the rules, that you could have a TV in your house without a licence as long as you don't watch... I do remember mum saying to me that when she was a girl, before TV was around, her parents had to get a radio licence from the BBC, to listen to the World Service or what's now Radio 4. I then looked up if we still needed a licence to listen to the radio, and apparently your radio licence was included in with your TV licence, according to their Website 20 yrs ago! Lol. So, although misinformed now, back on the day, you probably did need a licence to have a TV.
you USED to need a TV licence if you had a television eqipment or a video recorder capabile of recieving a television signal or if you had a radio (the television licence also covered listening to radio as well) but with streaming services the requirements were changed, but a lot of older people are still unaware of the new requirements and BBC dont publicize it in case a lot of people realise they dont need a licence any more
I remember that being introduced along with requirement for shops selling TVs to collect buyers details. Loads of publicity. I have no idea when that was scrapped as it must have been done very quietly....
@@lektrikzz8763 I remeber that happening when I was buying a new telly from argos, the woman asked for my postcode, I told her I didnt need a delivery as I was taking it with me right now, she told me that when selling a new telly they need the buyers details to pass onto the BBC, I told her I dont have a licence so she told me just to give her ANY postcode as she isnt paid to check its the customers real details
@@Thurgosh_OG I am a lot older than that (1980), but a lot of people even at my age still dont realise that you dont need a license just because you own a tv set, I only found out when I did some digging, in fact till recently my parents still thought you needed a tv license just to listen to the radio
@@TONE11111listening to any BBC Radio stations in MW, Shortwave, FM, LW on 198 kHz, and of course, DAB. Also waiting for my transit flight on UK airports while listening to the radio.
@@FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY Yes, any device that allows you to receive TV programmes while they are being broadcast, your dongle is just a form of smart aerial, It's just like using an internet router & WIFI for the same purpose.
To be honest I'm quite happy to keep things as they are. At the moment a TV licence is optional, most people know this now and more people are learning and can stop paying. If they scrap the TV license, you can bet they'll bring out media tax and then it will be compulsory for EVERYONE to have to pay.
@@joshuafreshney1206 Either council tax or a broadband tax. I'm betting on the BB tax. I'm also betting that it will be twice as much as the current TV licence because it will go straight into Reeves's pocket.
I remember if you brought a new television at supermarket they asked you for your postcode so they can tell Television Licence that you brought a new television so they can send people around to see if you have licence or not. My late mum let them in and not knowing they had no power to enter, after giving her a caution ‘you do not have to say anything……..’ and saw that we never watch live tv only catch up, they said ‘sorry to bother you, as you watch live tv you don’t need a licence’, then they left with a tail between their legs
Even if they do bring in a media tax, how are going to enforce it when we dont have a TV aerial or use the service? its not going to work as people will contest it, why should we pay for something we dont want or use?
I would think it's through the broadband and package deals. Most people get the TV deal when they buy a broadband package because it's something like an extra £5 a month. That's what it used to be 10 years ago, don't know as I don't have. So if you have that package they will put the tax on your bill. ISP's monitor your network traffic. Wouldn't be much effort for them to detect your watching a live TV app and report you for evasion..
The same way as they currently enforce the payment of the tax to which it will be added, income tax, council tax or whatever. If they add it to council tax, it will still be per household. So, Ms. Finnegan thinks that the mere presence of a TV in the house means a TV licence has to be purchased. Doesn't anyone at the "Daily Express" check what nonsense its "contributors" put out? Someone like an editor, perhaps? I don't think I'll bother reading the whole article.
I wonder if the BBC's Corporation Verify department, the new 60-journalist team to counteract fake news, will have a word with Judy and set her straight on the facts 🤣
No, it's probably just the poor, lazy journalism we have come to expect. If Ms. Finnegan thinks that the mere presence of a TV in the house means a TV licence has to be purchased, she needs to check her facts. Doesn't anyone at the "Daily Express" check what nonsense its "contributors" put out? Someone like an editor, perhaps? I don't think I'll bother reading the whole article.
why doesn't abolishing this come up during elections, That is insane just to support the BBC, what if you never watch the or listen to BBC programming, what a scam as they also have government and other types of funding, you are paying them exorbitant salaries, abolish licensing let them all go put the BBC up for sale, besides there is mostly rubbish coming from them now.
@@AnotherPointOfView944 The point is, licences are often much more specific than their names imply. Some are fairly straight forward, like driving licences, hunting licences and fishing licences. While others are a lot more specific, like music licences, alcohol licences, and of course, TV licences.
I don’t want to pay for a company that shows Russel Howard yapping on, Nish Kumar telling us how bad we all are or angry spoilt James Acaster having a posh boy rant coz his mother didn’t make what he wanted for tea, all followed by canned laughter
I have a TV but I can't remember the last time I watched it!...I wouldn't be suprised If they did this...or make a tax. Why if I don't even watch it....Yep I really can't understand how many people defend them....
I got a fine yrs ago and after I just stopped using it but got loads of letters but since I requested a no need licence online I've had nothing been 4 yrs now
Agreed, it is so surprising: 1. People still thing it's illegal not to buy a TV licence, and the goons they send around have some sort of legal powers. 2. People are not totally angered by the fact you have to buy a licence to watch any live TV, from any channel, yet all the licence money goes to the odious BBC.
Not any more. When my dad died and the tv licence expired, I just filled in the form saying that I only use it for watching non-live streaming (perfectly true, actually) and that was that. I never heard from them again.
Haven't had a TV Licence since 1993 and the only reason I bought it then was because a guy turned up at the door and heard my TV playing in the background. Paid it for 6 months on direct debit at twice the price and then cancelled because I'd paid enough for a year as far as I was concerned. Do I watch BBC occasionally? Yes. So what!? Prove it. I live in the northern Highlands of Scotland these days and get the standard letter telling me an "enforcement" officer is coming round from their "Dundee" office. Bash on. A 200+ mile trip just to be told to piss off at the door. Needless to say, no-one ever turns up. In the last 30-odd years an enforcement officer has come round twice since the first instance of being caught watching TV. It's real simple: tell them to piss off and that you're denying them any future right of access. Problem solved.
If you stop paying without informing them after you've paid double for the first 6 months you are 6 months ahead and you will still be licenced, after a few reminders they'll usually write to you with a new expiry date. If you let them know however you can get a rebate on what's left. I strictly play a straight game, but if your licence expired years ago I don't recommend writing on social media that you watch live TV or the BBC on BBC iPlayer.
@@pjcnet Yeah, but maybe I'm lying. Maybe I don't have a TV at all. There's no aerial, antenna or satellite dish outside my home. This is my home. I don't let strangers in to it. What if I am lying and they send the boys round with the police and a search warrant? I'm certainly not opening the door so they'll have to break it down. Two scenarios can come of that. Either they find out that I don't have a telly and are now gonna get sued for harassing me and destroying my property, or they do find a telly (which they have to prove I watch live TV on) and they cart me away, handcuffed to log solving the crime of the century. Either outcome is funny to me. "There it is officer. A telly! The man's a criminal." To which I reply: "It's a fair cop. Stick the bracelets on." The whole thing is nonsense and the only reason BBC gets away with it is because a scared majority have collectively agreed that this entertainment tax needs to be paid. So, to any licence goons reading this: Do I have a TV? Maybe. Maybe not. Sometimes I say things on social media that aren't true. Imagine that in a post truth world. Fake news! And on the subject of playing a straight game... why bother? They don't play a straight game and I don't have the time to be communicating with them to inform them that I do not need a licence. They don't have my name on their records so why would I enter into a contract with them by informing them of my identity. This will just result in more harassment. I don't mind their monthly letters. I never open them anyway and I always need a little paper to get the fire going during the winter months.
@@mediasubway They need a warrant and that involves a warrant hearing at a local court. They generally don't bother; there are easier pickings to be had hassling naive people who let them in without a warrant.
I haven't had a licence for a year now but can I get the crap of my TV, can I feck! Most apps I can only disable (iPlayer) and I got so fed up with the ads for shows I can't now watch that I HAD to replace my TV's launcher. The law needs changing so you can uninstall these flipping apps and get the storage back!!
Yeah, the point I was trying to make is that I should have to do any of this. If I buy a TV I want to be able to UNINSTALL completely apps I have no use of; such as iPlayer, itvX. And the launcher should have options to turn stuff off... It shouldn't be recommending programmes and show I can't now watch!!
I have recently stopped paying the licence fee because I don't watch BBC. However I don't have Netflix or any such thing. Could you please be more specific about what I can watch as I have no intention of paying the telly tax but I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong. Love your channel keep it up.
i like that speech the average income is £35,000 year well let me as a pensioner we still have to pay the same ? on a income of £12.500 now somebody needs a good kick up the arse to get real
We are asked every three years if we still Don’t need a license, the answer being no! We own a t.v but we don’t watch any b.b.c Or live t.v. And to be honest we don’t bother With any catchup even though we are allowed. Our d.v.d collection is growing though!
My teens aren't even slightly interested in broadcast TV, they are 24/7 on their phones, PC or game consoles.. Just a thought Jon over 90,000 subs. I assume saving the licence fee, that's more than a few million quid down at the BBC😂😂😂They must love you😂😂😂😂
The last time i bought a TV i had to submit my address.I was told that the supplier by law they had to notify TV licenseing that a tv had been purchased by you.This also includes any Freeview recording equipment.Sure enough a few weeks later i got a letter from TV licenseing stateing that i must have a license.That was in 2010 but have since moved to another property and have not had a license for nearly ten years.
How about portable digital TV receivers in the UK? Including MyGica PADTV HD DVB-T2 PT362 for Android devices, portable DVB-T2 receivers. Do I have to pay licence for that receivers ??
@@AnotherPointOfView944 spot on ,Woolies was great ,simpler and happier times,a lot less stress about "stuff".We had less but were more content,made things last.
They know if you have a TV license or not because every building in the UK has a Unique Premises Reference number, to which the license amongst other documents are attached, eg the same as tax and insurance linked to vehicle registration plates 😉
Hey Jon a friend of mine has recently lost his mum in law who used to live with them ,he's sorting out all the bills & things to swap over & the thing he is most worried about is the TV licence, I tried to convince him but he wasn't having it ,years & years of being brainwashed by the beeb outrageous
I was born in England and lived there for 16 years. I live in Canada now where you don't need a TV Licence. There are hacks like running a cable as a antena to hack into TV. It is now digital and harder to do. And you can get shows on Internet as mouvies and TV.
Hm. I'm in my sixties and I can't be bothered with anything that's broadcast on television. I gave it up years ago because I saw no consequence of value in watching any of it.
Don't show your ignorance. There are ways to detect the use of all but the simplest of receivers - certainly all TV tuners - IF TURNED ON. Of course, it doesn't prove that anyone was watching it ! Hence not usable in evidence.
A detecter what a load of crap a TV is receiver not a transmitter, have not had a license for years. The bbc is absolutely completely ridiculous. Keep up the good work 👍
Old TVs (the analog kind) did emit a specific frequency as a side effect of demodulating the received analog TV signal. That is what an old fashioned detector could detect, and it was proven to work to determine that you were demodulating a live signal. BUT, the problem was it was no good if you lived in a block of flats, or even a row of terraced houses. The detector antenna wasn't accurate enough to pinpoint which flat that specific frequency was coming from. So because of this, no one was ever prosecuted for watching TV without a license. Anyway, that's all irrelevant now if you watch live broadcasts via your broadband connection. They cant legally snoop on that, and if they did, they would be hauled over the coals in court.
I have an analogue TV, and use a (very) old Sky Box for the digital signal. With the recent switch to HD transmission, which my Sky Box cant receive, so I can't watch BBC programmes anymore. Do I still need a licence to pay for a service i can no longer obtain??
Sounds like propaganda to me. I have TVs and I use them to show my home made films or DVDs so no licence needed. The only reason I keep the licence is I look after grandchildren Friday evening to Sunday morning so the parents can work in retail. There are a couple of things they do like to watch.
I'm fairly sure the Black Belt Barrister read out something on license law about IF you (originally) bought equipment with a view to receiving live TV signals you need a licence? Surely when they get search warrants they are looking for such equipment which CAN receive live TV channels, since it must be almost impossible to prove people ARE watching live TV?
A nice solution would be making the TV Licence required for watching the BBC TV output only. That way you could watch live Sky, ITV, C4 and so on, and completely ignore BBC TV without a problem without a TV Licence. I have not watched a BBC TV programme at home since 2002. I have when house sitting for friends, who had the necessary TV Licence. The restricted times when I had the opportunity to legally watch BBC TV at home only confirmed that I am not missing anything important. Best wishes from George
This part comes from the fact other channels like ITV, channel 4 and channel 5 use BBC broadcasting equipment. They should be well off enough by now to pay for their own. BBC should be separate, or better still it should become a digital and online subscription service only, meaning those who want to watch pay, and those who do not, don't. As long as you don't watch TV as it is being broadcast or live, or use iPlayer, you don't need to pay a penny.
they could make tv sets that are incapable of recieving any bbc broadcasts or iplayer if they so chose, but they know that if they give people the option that people will choose to have one that cant receive the bbc and then they will all be out of jobs so thats never going to happen
Think about this, more and more pensioners are going over 75 so don't need a licence, and there are no new mugs setting up home who need a licence to replace them. BBC are getting desperate
Most under 35s don't watch TV, increasingly more people are switching off from the mainstream channels, therefore they have no future. I don't own a TV, just watch TH-cam, but when i see TV round friends or family i realise i don't miss it. Yeah, i don't think antideluvian is relevant to her argument.
I've got 11 grandchildren from age 6-19 and not one of them watches any tv. Even when they stop over at mine, all they do is watch TH-cam on tv. The only reason i have a tv set is for them because i never watch it myself.
Ridiculous! We lived in Guernsey, the rental had a tv. We decided to pay for a license was stupid. We hardly watched, online was becoming available. We mainly used the tv for dvd's
NOT HAD A FEE FOR A FEW YEARS NOW....and the thing about BBC and Netflix? you have a choice to use Netflix n nobody will harass you for a fee.we do not have to have a licence...but even the online form is fudged so folk feel guilty or unsure. glad you put this out for them
Nah, I saw a TV detector van raid in the 1980s, a grey Sherpa van. I didn't have a licence then, the van pulled up, and 4 or 5 men jumped out running towards my house. I thought,"Oh shit!" But they ran past my house and raided a neighbour who was a mate of mine. He was a portly fellow, and was laid out on his sofa watching his telly in just his Y fronts, these goons banged on his door and his wife let them in. He wasn't in a position to argue, almost naked with the telly on. He was taken to court and fined, must admit I thought my time had come. I haven't watched TV in years so now don't need a licence.
Old TVs (the analog kind) did emit a specific frequency as a side effect of demodulating the received analog TV signal. That is what an old fashioned detector could detect, and it was proven to work to determine that you were demodulating a live signal. BUT, the problem was it was no good if you lived in a block of flats, or even a row of terraced houses. The detector antenna wasn't accurate enough to pinpoint which flat that specific frequency was coming from. So because of this, no one was ever prosecuted for watching TV without a license. Anyway, that's all irrelevant now if you watch live broadcasts via your broadband connection. They cant legally snoop on that, and if they did, they would be hauled over the coals in court.
They're desperate to hold onto their highly paid jobs and platinum pensions.
They are like the mafia, billions of pounds at stake, they won't give up without a fight...
Not.... They Intend Keeping The Pay Packet,and we all have to cought up wether we have tv or not...tis a democracy dont yopu know
@@bexhill8777hmm. You don’t need a tv licence if you don’t own a tv. Glad to clear up your confusion
@@bexhill8777 Is it really a democracy, judges keep over-riding decisions and the politicians keep the King's shilling.
@@soviet700 you don't need a TV licence if you don't watch live TV as it is being broadcast, either
An expensive means of watching garbage. ..
More propaganda. If I want to buy a 60 inch OLED TV; hang it on my wall and run a fish-tank screen-saver on it then I DONT NEED A LICENSE
@@Pete1965 ...... 😂
@@Pete1965 you beat me to it! but if he has a image of a fish he needs a fishing license!! 🤣
Not for sea fish @@jfdomega7938
Or a fireplace.. hmmm free heating too 😂
🤣🤣🤣 A fishing license would be more interesting
I had a TV Licence for every moment that I was legally obliged to have one, but now that I no longer watch Broadcast TV, I don't need one, so I no longer have to pay for one.
Let me get this straight. If you dont pay for a tv licence, you could go to prison, where you can have a tv in your cell, and dont have to pay for a tv licence. we are being treated like mugs.
Totally false, that's what they want you to believe. Nobody in the history of tv licencing has ever went to jail for not having a licence. People go to jail because they refuse or can't pay the fines imposed in court if it does that far. 2 separate things.
@@stuartb4525 so you are saying if you don’t pay the t.v. license or the fine for not having one isn’t related to the t,v.license when jailed ? 😊
@@RobBeales It's simple, if you admit by talking to goons your were watching EastEnders, on the doorstep, they can take you to court. Most cases the courts will simply just fine you. How you deal with it is up to you. Pay it job done. That is over and done with. However, not paying the fine imposed by the courts, is classed as contempt of court, and at that point they can put you in prison for not paying the fine. That's why people end up in jail. Not for not paying the licence. Hope that makes sense?
To add you are not getting jailed for no licence, but for not paying the fine. Technically they are related, would be the same for any fine the court imposes, potential jail time. Doesn't matter the original offence, but in the case of a TV licence, if you pay the fine, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO JAIL. Having no licence is not a custodial sentence. This is where people think, or are led to believe that no licence= jail, it's not the case. All the courts can do is fine you, not even a criminal record.
Plus I’m 💯 percent sure you’ve never been inside an actual jail prisoners do pag a tv license
You have to pay for a TV licence in jail. A pound a week I think...
7 years licence free for me. No regrets. Had over £1000 to spend on myself. Just went online to TV licensing and made the declaration. I don’t watch any LIVE broadcast. Never had a letter, never had a visit.
That’s exactly what we done.
Interesting. Every interaction I've had with TV Licensing has prompted two to five years of laughable 'red' warning letters. Telling them you don't need one seems to are them open an investigation (their term for a junk mailing list). My mother used to get terrified when she came to my house and would see the 'red letters' to the point of tears. Eventually I just kept them in a sleeve next to the calendar, checking off each deadline that came and passed without any police raids or court cases. It took almost a decade to convince her I was right, included going through the fine print with her.
She still buys a license. She doesn't need one but she's too terrified to 'risk it'.
I don't even do that. I let the BBC save the planet by sending regular letters.
@@AnonEyeMousereport this as intimidation to the police. If she doesn’t need a license then she should not pay any money to the BBC.
I had that too for several years, but now I told them I've moved out. Then are sending letters to THE OCCUPIER, which I return each time as addressee not known. Let them sweat, I will never pay a penny to them anyway.
Judy Finnegan wouldn’t say (or wouldn’t be allowed to say) these things if she worked for the BBC.
BBC preach anything MYTHICAL - their photocopier must be overheating sending too many red letters and wasting money using packs of paper!
Thinking the same thing. Richard and Judy (the show ) was on ITV.She's safe on independent media.
Is Judy well?
Richard on ITV Breakfast was talking about the tv licence being outdated.
@@Suzie_saveourcountryand you know it is. It was introduced in 1946. It’s not 1946 anymore it’s 2024
Have four TVs and had no licence for last 25+ years, legally don't need one.
Have you had much hassle at the door, out of interest?
why dont you share the legal technicalities with everyone who would like to do the same ! Why dont you legally not need one ??
Don’t watch live tv or I player you don’t need one
if they tried this type of licensing scam in the US there would be a complete massive revolt, how many homes in the US has a TV in every single room even the outside patios and washrooms.
@@aidiessThe license is to watch live broadcasts. You can own a TV to stream, play video games or watch DVDs. As long as you don't watch live TV, no license is required.
We need a referendum on the future of the BBC.
i took my own referendum and decided not to pay 7 yrs ago only had one mild letter no trouble since, im not paying them to tel me how bad i am for being white in my own BLOODY country,
Just don’t pay…simple
Need a referendum on the future of the government ,especially now we have 3 none unelected non british plonkers in charge
Providing the BBC pays for the referendum!
We don't have control over the BBC.
The Royal Charter - they have breached repeatedly - is their safety net...
I would just not have a TV. I am not paying for the terrorist supporting corporation.
You CAN have a TV though, and use it perfectly legally without a BBC TV licence providing you don't watch live TV, don't watch TV as it is being broadcast and don't use BBC iPlayer. It's a myth that you need a licence to own a TV set, you don't.
I've not had a license for about 3 years. When I first stopped it I got loads of letters so I rang the number to explain why I never needed a license. I had to sign a form to stop the harassment. The letters have started again and I'm not responding. If the salesman catches me in he will get the door closed in his face. Job done.
Yes the computer generated harassment letters start up after two years. I’m waiting for the latest one for April. (Jon normally gets his first and reads it out).
@@Suzie_saveourcountry Is that jilted Jon?
I haven't had a licence for 2 years but I don't watch any TV at all. I contacted them and told them I no longer need a licence and that was the end of it. No threatening letters no knocks on the door nothing. A tv licence is for watching everything. You can't turn round and say I am only watching ITV and channel 4 and not the BBC. They don't know that. That's why people get letters from them because there is every chance someone might say I don't need a licence but are still watching the BBC. That's why the licence is there to cover everything and covering all bases incase people are still watching the BBC without a licence.
@@lizvickers7156wrong, a tv licence is only required for watching LIVE ‘As it’s being broadcast tv’ and IPlayer. Any other channels, Netflix, Amazon Prime, On demand is paid for by subscription and advertising so no licence is required. Listen to what Jon is saying here then you’ll get the idea.
That’s the way to deal with it.
Say nothing to them and close the door in their face.
I done that to one of them a few years ago and the idiot climbed on my dodgy back garden fence (that had not long been hit by a whole ass tree that fell on it in a storm) to attempt to see into my main room and the entire fence came tumbling down on top of him 🤣.
I heard the noise and just seen his wee legs sticking out under the fence.
Chilli, I'm 61 and my husband is a very young 70 and we haven't watched broadcast TV for four years. Don't miss it.
I'm 38, not even had a TV set since I left my ex husband in 2018. I use Amazon Prime, Netflix, Now TV and occasionally Disney Plus, and haven't paid for a BBC TV licence since 2018. I don't need one because I don't watch live TV, I don't watch tv as it is being broadcast and I don't use iPlayer. I certainly don't miss it either!. Most of the stuff on iPlayer eventually makes its way onto Netflix, where it is perfectly legal to watch without a licence, just means you have to wait a few extra months, that's all.
I still have arguments with people who insist that you need a license to OWN a tv. Some people just won’t listen. 🤷🏻♂️
Point them at TV licensing web site.
Believe it or not, it does actually state the rules.
I wouldnt waste your time and energy with those kind of people. They are far too programmed and unable to apply logic and sense to basic life situations
It did used to be that way, that's probably why some people still think it.
Ignorance comes to mind
That's because stupid is a permanent condition. It's like my neighbor that said you had to be 28 to buy. Cigarettes, but what it said was if you're less 28 be prepared to show ID when buying cigarettes. We argued for 20 minutes about it before we went to the sign.
Nigel Farage has vowed to abolish the licence fee.. you have your vote!!!
Now you know why I dont buy a newspaper
Full of misleading BS merchants they call journalists.
Because you can’t read?
its a dead media why would you want yesterday's news? (propaganda) n they got rid of page 3 aha
Because it is all mind controlling propaganda and BS. Same reason as me.
By mentioning page 3 , you straight away told us what socioeconomic group you fall into.
And that type of newspaper was never considered real news.
It was just put together using rather large print to make it easy for the likes of your sort to understand.
They sent me a letter saying they were visiting and they never turned up. I’m insulted. 🤬
Sue them for lost wages for not turning up.🤣🤣🤣
@@joshuafreshney1206 got another one today for 7th August🤔 yea going to work 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I got one saying 'will you be at home on September 11th', needless to say nobody turned up.
@@Chezombie me too on 19th sept.........the letter doesnt say that they will be attending on that date though, it says "visit approved" and asks "will you be in on.........." but doesnt actually state they will be visiting on the date displayed in the letter but people dont seem to understand that, its just a scare tactic to frighten people into paying because they know people will assume they will attend on that date and that some will even cough up to avoid it happening and it probably works too, sadly. even if one person pays after reading that letter then the letter is a success in their eyes regardless of how many are sent out
i got one a few days back saying they have opened an investigation and needless to say i am terrified
Judy needs to get her facts straight, that’s my thought.
She knows the facts, but MSM hack will tell us the facts we need to know.
I thought she was a journalist. She should get her facts straight.
@@peterallen2904 -She's probably a drunk.
She needs to stop chewing Wasps.
Ask her to ask her husband to get you a bottle of wine.
We sadly have that model here in Sweden. If you have a tv or receiver of any kind, they will automatically assume that you are able to receive public service channels. But our license fee has been hidden within the tax bill. So everybody that works are automatically paying a fee to the public service every month. They kindly nearly halved the fee from over 2000 SEK a year to under 1300 SEK a year because so many are now paying through the tax bill that they felt that it was not necessary to charge a high fee anymore. It should be removed altogether.
Judy I’ve not paid for a licence for 12 yrs you don’t have to pay if your not watching live TV .
Just to be clear the law says you need a licence to watch BROADCAST TV, not LIVE TV. No streaming service is broadcast, it is all on-demand, even when it is called live and so no licence is needed in law.
@@ditch3827 So if you just have a TV to run a PS1 or N64 on (consoles with no integrity capabilities) where the Ariel slot is being used up with the 64, that's fine?
@@Roadent1241 yup - the communications act 2003 says you need a licence to watch broadcast TV (ie signal that is broadcast). You don't need a licence to watch anything that is not broadcast.
@@Roadent1241 Yep - the law is 'watching or recording at time of transmission' - or thereabouts - owning a set capable of receiving transmissions is NOT (as far as I understand) a reason to get a licence?
I always thought if you have a receiver that is capable of picking up a TV signal and displaying it then it needed a licence
Back in the 60s you apparently required a licence if you installed a TV. The courts ruled that fitting a plug on the end of the power supply lead of a TV in itself was sufficient to constitute installation even if you never plugged it in. In sum, possessing a TV was sufficient to incur liability to buy a licence.
Im 64 now and havent watched TV since December 2009
You can’t beat a decent book !
61 and only watch TH-cam, don't miss TV either.
Ditto!@@jonathansteadman7935
Congrats. I've only just come to my senses, stopped paying last December. One other benefit: started getting free bog roll in the form of TV licensing mafia letters, threatening to send the boys round.
2015 , quit once newsnight became terrible, with that awful woman , kunesberg
To be fair, in Judy's day even video recorders that were only used to play pre-recorded tapes had to be licenced, solely because they contained a TV tuner. I also seem to remember that retailers had to inform the licencing authority the details of every person buying a TV.
They still do, you will notice you are supposed to give your address when you buy a new TV but I always make one up
Why dont these people stick to reading an autocue instead of pontificating about subjects that they seem to know very little about! The other 3% work for the BBC.
Because the ones writing the autocue scripts are pushing the same agenda.
Gotta love the words they use to try and scare any uneducated folks.
I don't know why government don't scrap the TV licence
It's a vote winner.
You scrap it yourself. No obligation to have one.
98 million for eastenders set just to update for 4k lol, was nothing wrong with old one.
@@allanallen1835So the BBC isn’t short of money then! Why do they think we’re stupid?
What politicians want and what voters want don't overlap much.
@@dareks8000 Because that's what they're indoctrinated with at Eton, where 90% of them went. Not exaggerating.
This is another case of people speaking about things they know nothing about, Judy is a case in point.
Great to see such dedication to journalistic integrity, never letting a fact go unresearched. Oh, hold on.
So grateful for this video. I've not had a TV for 10 years but have just bought one to use as a larger monitor screen for my computer. I was concerned that I would now need a licence even though I NEVER watch TV programmes and don't even have an ariel connection. You have put my mind at rest, thank you.
I'm 55 this year and remember being in one of those vans when I was 8 or 9 as my uncle used to drive one. It had a huge antenna on the top and a light on a bench in the back to give the appearance of doing something. I'm VERY into tech (lift engineer) and remember laughing when my uncle told us they were fake. He's no longer with us but remember a conversation with him about 10 years ago saying he had to sign an NDA to drive it.
Yep as a kid about 12 yrs old i remember looking inside whilst sliding door was open. A desk and reem of paper on desk with lamp and a chair. 😂 They knew from records which address had or had t got a licence and with just three channels at the time they detected by the glow in the window floor flickering. No dvd or vhs those days 😂
lol they told me on the phone they can detect radiation from tvs that are on, after i told them to contact nasa as im sure they would love a system on that scale that does that,they went on to ask me why and i said if you can detect radiation from thaat distance emmiting from my tv im gonna need a hazmat suit to watch corry. they abruptly hung up.
if yoou live in a village you probbably wont ever get a knock from them,its not worth the petrol lol.
So he broke the NDA tut tut tut....
The funny thing is the BBC got a tiny slap on the wrist for those vans about a decade ago.
Was it the case they can detect transmission but not reception, however I think TVs were then fitted with small transmitters in order to aid detection. I'd like to know the technical facts just out of curiosity.
About 20 or 30 years back, If you had a TV or video recorder CAPABLE OF RECEIVING any program over the air, you MUST have a TV licence. The TV and recorder (even if you only watched pre-recorded videos) must have a disabled aerial socket for exemption from the licence fee.
Fast forward to now (when did it change?) the apparatus can still be capable of receiving but you only need to tell them that you don't watch live TV.
Seems to me that the BBC tripped over their own feet on that one.
why would anyone believe the bullshit she and her husband say
Both as woke as fuck imho
@@carolinehuguk6394 yep
Isn't he a shoplifter?
@@AnalogueInTheUK shoplifter. or shirtlifter? Who gives a toss😛
They were the biggest bores on TV at one time, so full of self importance.
Looking forward to more of your talks and walks around your town Chills.
I have a total of six tvs and I neither need or want a tv licence.
I have a tv in the bedroom for watching dvds on. There is no aerial connection in my bedroom so I cannot watch broadcast tv on if I wanted to. But as far as any tv inspector goes - the only thing I keep in the bedroom is a punch in the head.
Same. I don't have any connected to an aerial, I don't watch live or catch up TV, Use BBC iPlayer and I only use paid for streaming services.
I don't want or will ever need one.
I remember many years ago seeing a newspaper story about an old lady in Wales who, through a weird land topography, could only get ITV. She still went to court and was found guilty of not paying her tv licence!
Not had a TV license for over 20 years. Once when i went to Argos to buy a TV, the sales assistant asked for my address, i obliged and gave her the wrong one and took the TV and left. Never had a knock or letter in all the time i’ve refused to pay!
Bravo ! 😁👏👏👏
Andy, are you obliged by law to give your address to a sales assistant when you buy a TV, because i've never heard of this. Maybe i need to get out more.
I was reported to tv licence by curries when I bought a stand.
Was your name C. Lyon, G. Raffe or G. String at that moment in time?
They insist nowadays that you pay for your TV with credit or debit card, so they have your details. NO cash, NO cheque. It hasn't been obligatory to give your name and address since July 2013, but try buying a TV set without having to give those details and see how far you get. They refuse to believe it but have your card details anyway.
As a fomer TV engineer the detector van was fake, some vans did exists but they had no real tech to detect if a television was being watched.
according to tv licencing website the technology is so advanced that even the engineers dont understand how it works..........it could just be that you just dont get it
I use TVs as my computer monitors because of them having built in speakers. The thought of someone trying to charge me a fee for that is infuriating.
That's pretty much what the majority of modern TV sets are, internet enabled monitors with multiple uses. Even if you use one to watch pre recorded on demand services like Netflix you do NOT need to pay the BBC a penny.
I would like to thank Gary Lineker from the bottom if my heart for convincing me to stop paying this tax.
He is the very reason I stopped paying. Huge salary, and voiced opinions I did not agree with way too often
This was implied to me when I cancelled my tv licence. TV Licensing implied that as I had a tv and “devices” that I needed a licence. Obvious nonsense. This ‘discussion’ went on for a time until they got fed up and transferred me to what they said was their “special” department 😂 That ‘special’ said the previous people were “over stepping the mark”. Of course, what was really happening was they were trying their best (unsuccessfully) to prevent another licence cancellation and they were doing it by hook or crook and failed, miserably.
Whether broadcast costs come from a licence fee, adverts, or subscriptions, the cost ultimately gets passed on to us.
I do my weekly shopping at Asda and Lidl, yesterday I got a threatening letter from Sainsburys saying I owed them money for being allowed to shop. 😂😂😂😂😂
Wow, I got the same from Tesco's.
That ought to be a the top! Made me laugh - and hit the point home!
😁😁😁😁😁🤣🤣🤣🤣😎😁😁
I remember being told as a child that if you have a TV, 30+ yrs ago, then you did require a licence.
I know when I got my first flat, I only had a B/W TV and licence to match. And it said on the back, if I wanted to watch my VHS tapes, then I had to get a colour licence too, as VHS had the ability to record in colour. So I left my VHS with my parents until I could afford a colour TV and licence.
Then I think things started to change with the DVD players. I know my cousin had a visit, and he had no aerial of any type, or cable, and was using his TV as a monitor for his player. And as he couldn't record or watch any live or recorded programmes, they let him be.
I think with the net, gaming, and later streaming services, I think that was where they changed the rules, that you could have a TV in your house without a licence as long as you don't watch...
I do remember mum saying to me that when she was a girl, before TV was around, her parents had to get a radio licence from the BBC, to listen to the World Service or what's now Radio 4. I then looked up if we still needed a licence to listen to the radio, and apparently your radio licence was included in with your TV licence, according to their Website 20 yrs ago! Lol.
So, although misinformed now, back on the day, you probably did need a licence to have a TV.
you USED to need a TV licence if you had a television eqipment or a video recorder capabile of recieving a television signal or if you had a radio (the television licence also covered listening to radio as well) but with streaming services the requirements were changed, but a lot of older people are still unaware of the new requirements and BBC dont publicize it in case a lot of people realise they dont need a licence any more
I remember that being introduced along with requirement for shops selling TVs to collect buyers details. Loads of publicity. I have no idea when that was scrapped as it must have been done very quietly....
@@lektrikzz8763 I remeber that happening when I was buying a new telly from argos, the woman asked for my postcode, I told her I didnt need a delivery as I was taking it with me right now, she told me that when selling a new telly they need the buyers details to pass onto the BBC, I told her I dont have a licence so she told me just to give her ANY postcode as she isnt paid to check its the customers real details
The requirement to have a licence just for owning a TV, ended in 1980.
@@Thurgosh_OG I am a lot older than that (1980), but a lot of people even at my age still dont realise that you dont need a license just because you own a tv set, I only found out when I did some digging, in fact till recently my parents still thought you needed a tv license just to listen to the radio
@@TONE11111listening to any BBC Radio stations in MW, Shortwave, FM, LW on 198 kHz, and of course, DAB. Also waiting for my transit flight on UK airports while listening to the radio.
You have hit the nail on the head totally agree 100%
Next they'll be a licence/tax to turn our phones on! 🙄
dont give them ideas!!!!
@@andygozzo72
'They' have already thought about it, do not be surprised, 'They' will find a way to implement it.
Phones lines are going. To make a phone call you need voice over IP and internet access.
TV licence for DVB-T2 tuner dongle for Android phones and tablets (MyGica PT362) ??
@@FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY
Yes, any device that allows you to receive TV programmes while they are being broadcast, your dongle is just a form of smart aerial, It's just like using an internet router & WIFI for the same purpose.
To be honest I'm quite happy to keep things as they are. At the moment a TV licence is optional, most people know this now and more people are learning and can stop paying. If they scrap the TV license, you can bet they'll bring out media tax and then it will be compulsory for EVERYONE to have to pay.
Or they'll stick it on council tax.
@@joshuafreshney1206 Either council tax or a broadband tax. I'm betting on the BB tax. I'm also betting that it will be twice as much as the current TV licence because it will go straight into Reeves's pocket.
@@sandradavies7804 I'm sure that about 5yrs ago it was mentioned there could be a Tax on computers to compensate the Boys Buggering Club.
7 thumbs down on this video. Must be those 3% you were talking about, that actually thinks the licence fee is a good thing. 🤦♂
Or they work for the shysters
@@Nighthawk-rk6wo Nobody works for the BBC. They might be employed there, but they don't do any work.
They will be BBC employees on the gravy train.
You can see thumbs down?
@@jendrizzyy They are still there, TH-cam just hides them, you can get an addon for your browser called something like show dislikes
I remember if you brought a new television at supermarket they asked you for your postcode so they can tell Television Licence that you brought a new television so they can send people around to see if you have licence or not. My late mum let them in and not knowing they had no power to enter, after giving her a caution ‘you do not have to say anything……..’ and saw that we never watch live tv only catch up, they said ‘sorry to bother you, as you watch live tv you don’t need a licence’, then they left with a tail between their legs
Even if they do bring in a media tax, how are going to enforce it when we dont have a TV aerial or use the service? its not going to work as people will contest it, why should we pay for something we dont want or use?
I would think it's through the broadband and package deals. Most people get the TV deal when they buy a broadband package because it's something like an extra £5 a month. That's what it used to be 10 years ago, don't know as I don't have. So if you have that package they will put the tax on your bill.
ISP's monitor your network traffic. Wouldn't be much effort for them to detect your watching a live TV app and report you for evasion..
@@1738CreationsThey can't track you if you use a VPN 😉
Thats exactly why i make an effort to avoid live channels on youtube 😎@1738Creations they can try all they want but there's nothing to catch me out
@@philkasafir. to my knowledge this crap doesn't apply to youtube - have I missed something?
The same way as they currently enforce the payment of the tax to which it will be added, income tax, council tax or whatever. If they add it to council tax, it will still be per household.
So, Ms. Finnegan thinks that the mere presence of a TV in the house means a TV licence has to be purchased. Doesn't anyone at the "Daily Express" check what nonsense its "contributors" put out? Someone like an editor, perhaps? I don't think I'll bother reading the whole article.
People like her are the reason a lot of people are confused. She has no idea what she is talking about, but people still listen and react to it.
The whole article was just to advertise missinfomation part about needing a TV licence if you own a TV
missdirection like that should become a crime
I wonder if the BBC's Corporation Verify department, the new 60-journalist team to counteract fake news, will have a word with Judy and set her straight on the facts 🤣
No, it's probably just the poor, lazy journalism we have come to expect. If Ms. Finnegan thinks that the mere presence of a TV in the house means a TV licence has to be purchased, she needs to check her facts. Doesn't anyone at the "Daily Express" check what nonsense its "contributors" put out? Someone like an editor, perhaps? I don't think I'll bother reading the whole article.
They know the BBC will collaps without forced payment from the public, it's sickening how much power this company has.
why doesn't abolishing this come up during elections, That is insane just to support the BBC, what if you never watch the or listen to BBC programming, what a scam as they also have government and other types of funding, you are paying them exorbitant salaries, abolish licensing let them all go put the BBC up for sale, besides there is mostly rubbish coming from them now.
the Crown Corporation would rather not lose their long standing no 1 propaganda outlet
"If you own a TV, you must buy a TV Licence" is about as stupid as saying "If you drink a beer, you need an Alcohol Licence".
Different charter. But I agree its stupid.
@@AnotherPointOfView944 The point is, licences are often much more specific than their names imply. Some are fairly straight forward, like driving licences, hunting licences and fishing licences.
While others are a lot more specific, like music licences, alcohol licences, and of course, TV licences.
There was a time when this was correct.
FANCY A FREE BOTTLE OF WINE,.
"If you own a beer glass, you need an alcohol licence."
I don’t want to pay for a company that shows Russel Howard yapping on, Nish Kumar telling us how bad we all are or angry spoilt James Acaster having a posh boy rant coz his mother didn’t make what he wanted for tea, all followed by canned laughter
I have a TV but I can't remember the last time I watched it!...I wouldn't be suprised If they did this...or make a tax. Why if I don't even watch it....Yep I really can't understand how many people defend them....
Cancelled my license after finding this channel, I’ve been such a mug for all these years…. Thank you 👍
I got a fine yrs ago and after I just stopped using it but got loads of letters but since I requested a no need licence online I've had nothing been 4 yrs now
Agreed, it is so surprising: 1. People still thing it's illegal not to buy a TV licence, and the goons they send around have some sort of legal powers. 2. People are not totally angered by the fact you have to buy a licence to watch any live TV, from any channel, yet all the licence money goes to the odious BBC.
The licence fee needs to go for good! No ifs no butts no coconuts!
It's a protection racket!
Well done
Buying a TV licence to watch channels loaded with adverts is not on I cancelled my licence and my woman is 83 she is not buying a licence
If she is 83 and in receipt of certain benefit payments, she could get a free tv licence.
Not any more. When my dad died and the tv licence expired, I just filled in the form saying that I only use it for watching non-live streaming (perfectly true, actually) and that was that. I never heard from them again.
Haven't had a TV Licence since 1993 and the only reason I bought it then was because a guy turned up at the door and heard my TV playing in the background. Paid it for 6 months on direct debit at twice the price and then cancelled because I'd paid enough for a year as far as I was concerned. Do I watch BBC occasionally? Yes. So what!? Prove it. I live in the northern Highlands of Scotland these days and get the standard letter telling me an "enforcement" officer is coming round from their "Dundee" office. Bash on. A 200+ mile trip just to be told to piss off at the door. Needless to say, no-one ever turns up. In the last 30-odd years an enforcement officer has come round twice since the first instance of being caught watching TV. It's real simple: tell them to piss off and that you're denying them any future right of access. Problem solved.
If you stop paying without informing them after you've paid double for the first 6 months you are 6 months ahead and you will still be licenced, after a few reminders they'll usually write to you with a new expiry date. If you let them know however you can get a rebate on what's left. I strictly play a straight game, but if your licence expired years ago I don't recommend writing on social media that you watch live TV or the BBC on BBC iPlayer.
@@pjcnet Yeah, but maybe I'm lying. Maybe I don't have a TV at all. There's no aerial, antenna or satellite dish outside my home. This is my home. I don't let strangers in to it. What if I am lying and they send the boys round with the police and a search warrant? I'm certainly not opening the door so they'll have to break it down. Two scenarios can come of that. Either they find out that I don't have a telly and are now gonna get sued for harassing me and destroying my property, or they do find a telly (which they have to prove I watch live TV on) and they cart me away, handcuffed to log solving the crime of the century. Either outcome is funny to me. "There it is officer. A telly! The man's a criminal." To which I reply: "It's a fair cop. Stick the bracelets on." The whole thing is nonsense and the only reason BBC gets away with it is because a scared majority have collectively agreed that this entertainment tax needs to be paid. So, to any licence goons reading this: Do I have a TV? Maybe. Maybe not. Sometimes I say things on social media that aren't true. Imagine that in a post truth world. Fake news!
And on the subject of playing a straight game... why bother? They don't play a straight game and I don't have the time to be communicating with them to inform them that I do not need a licence. They don't have my name on their records so why would I enter into a contract with them by informing them of my identity. This will just result in more harassment. I don't mind their monthly letters. I never open them anyway and I always need a little paper to get the fire going during the winter months.
@@mediasubway They need a warrant and that involves a warrant hearing at a local court. They generally don't bother; there are easier pickings to be had hassling naive people who let them in without a warrant.
They cant prove it..never could..i havent had a tv licence since the day i was born in 1984
Hi Chilli Love the videos............. So why dont the other TV companies tell the BBC that they want there share from the Licence Fee
I haven't had a licence for a year now but can I get the crap of my TV, can I feck! Most apps I can only disable (iPlayer) and I got so fed up with the ads for shows I can't now watch that I HAD to replace my TV's launcher. The law needs changing so you can uninstall these flipping apps and get the storage back!!
I have a roku and I can add or delete whatever apps I want or don't. The bbc one was the first to go!!
You can only use the Iplayer with a valid email address, it has to be logged in to, so, If you`ve never done that dont worry
Yeah, the point I was trying to make is that I should have to do any of this. If I buy a TV I want to be able to UNINSTALL completely apps I have no use of; such as iPlayer, itvX. And the launcher should have options to turn stuff off... It shouldn't be recommending programmes and show I can't now watch!!
3:43 hold up. You can't take someone to court and fine or convict them WITH OUT the evidence........
Gamers use TVs. I have one as a PC monitor.
What if you watch live tv on a monitor ? Monitors and tvs are 2 different devices.
@@animaltvi9515 You need a TV license if you watch live TV or iPlayer on ANY device (mobiles, monitors, ..)
@@animaltvi9515 You need a TV licence to watch live broadcasts on any device (mobile phone, tablet, PC, monitor, fridge, ....)
Me too I watch all my videos through my big tv.
@@animaltvi9515 if watching 'live' tv on anything you're 'supposed' to have a licence ....
I have recently stopped paying the licence fee because I don't watch BBC. However I don't have Netflix or any such thing. Could you please be more specific about what I can watch as I have no intention of paying the telly tax but I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong. Love your channel keep it up.
i like that speech the average income is £35,000 year well let me as a pensioner we still have to pay the same ? on a income of £12.500 now somebody needs a good kick up the arse to get real
im on less than 6000. its cheaper to have Netflix than pay tv licence lol
We are asked every three years if we still
Don’t need a license, the answer being no!
We own a t.v but we don’t watch any b.b.c
Or live t.v. And to be honest we don’t bother
With any catchup even though we are allowed.
Our d.v.d collection is growing though!
My teens aren't even slightly interested in broadcast TV, they are 24/7 on their phones, PC or game consoles.. Just a thought Jon over 90,000 subs. I assume saving the licence fee, that's more than a few million quid down at the BBC😂😂😂They must love you😂😂😂😂
The last time i bought a TV i had to submit my address.I was told that the supplier by law they had to notify TV licenseing that a tv had been purchased by you.This also includes any Freeview recording equipment.Sure enough a few weeks later i got a letter from TV licenseing stateing that i must have a license.That was in 2010 but have since moved to another property and have not had a license for nearly ten years.
Maybe you should change your backdrop to a scene from porridge 🤣
How about portable digital TV receivers in the UK? Including MyGica PADTV HD DVB-T2 PT362 for Android devices, portable DVB-T2 receivers. Do I have to pay licence for that receivers ??
I remember trying to buy a black and white portable TV in Woolworths and they would refuse to sell one to you unless you gave them you're i.d.
That must have been a while ago. You are 50+ years old?
@@AnotherPointOfView944 spot on ,Woolies was great ,simpler and happier times,a lot less stress about "stuff".We had less but were more content,made things last.
Years ago you had to produce a licence before they sold you one.
They know if you have a TV license or not because every building in the UK has a Unique Premises Reference number, to which the license amongst other documents are attached, eg the same as tax and insurance linked to vehicle registration plates 😉
Hey Jon a friend of mine has recently lost his mum in law who used to live with them ,he's sorting out all the bills & things to swap over & the thing he is most worried about is the TV licence, I tried to convince him but he wasn't having it ,years & years of being brainwashed by the beeb outrageous
You don’t need a licence to own a tv. Why then can they get a search warrant to check your equipment if it is not on / or you are not watching it
I was born in England and lived there for 16 years. I live in Canada now where you don't need a TV Licence. There are hacks like running a cable as a antena to hack into TV. It is now digital and harder to do. And you can get shows on Internet as mouvies and TV.
Hm. I'm in my sixties and I can't be bothered with anything that's broadcast on television. I gave it up years ago because I saw no consequence of value in watching any of it.
Thank you Jon as always 🤗
You can not detect RF transmission not reception, however tetra band and some of the older military band can be traced with the correct equipment.
Don't show your ignorance. There are ways to detect the use of all but the simplest of receivers - certainly all TV tuners - IF TURNED ON.
Of course, it doesn't prove that anyone was watching it ! Hence not usable in evidence.
Well done Judy, BBC needs stop the licence....
No, Leave it this way I do not have to pay, I will go to prison if I have to I will not pay it ever again four years free coming up
use mine as a pc monitor as televisions are a thing of the past, get more out my pc than ever do out of a tv
A detecter what a load of crap a TV is receiver not a transmitter, have not had a license for years. The bbc is absolutely completely ridiculous. Keep up the good work 👍
Old TVs (the analog kind) did emit a specific frequency as a side effect of demodulating the received analog TV signal.
That is what an old fashioned detector could detect, and it was proven to work to determine that you were demodulating a live signal.
BUT, the problem was it was no good if you lived in a block of flats, or even a row of terraced houses. The detector antenna wasn't accurate enough to pinpoint which flat that specific frequency was coming from. So because of this, no one was ever prosecuted for watching TV without a license.
Anyway, that's all irrelevant now if you watch live broadcasts via your broadband connection. They cant legally snoop on that, and if they did, they would be hauled over the coals in court.
@@AnotherPointOfView944nice to see I’m not the only one who remembers this. It was my ex-BBC trainer who taught us this back in 1982!
I have an analogue TV, and use a (very) old Sky Box for the digital signal.
With the recent switch to HD transmission, which my Sky Box cant receive, so I can't watch BBC programmes anymore.
Do I still need a licence to pay for a service i can no longer obtain??
Sounds like propaganda to me. I have TVs and I use them to show my home made films or DVDs so no licence needed. The only reason I keep the licence is I look after grandchildren Friday evening to Sunday morning so the parents can work in retail. There are a couple of things they do like to watch.
I'm fairly sure the Black Belt Barrister read out something on license law about IF you (originally) bought equipment with a view to receiving live TV signals you need a licence? Surely when they get search warrants they are looking for such equipment which CAN receive live TV channels, since it must be almost impossible to prove people ARE watching live TV?
average wage in uk £25K
That's what I thought, that was so wrong from him
Sounds like mrs finnegan is talking absolute tosh, as far as the newspaper goes, newspapers ARE TOILET PAPER.
They turn your arse black though.
@@EnyawYorlig and are too rough!! 😉
Sadly the wax coating on the paper makes them less absorbent than they used to be...
A nice solution would be making the TV Licence required for watching the BBC TV output only.
That way you could watch live Sky, ITV, C4 and so on, and completely ignore BBC TV without a problem without a TV Licence.
I have not watched a BBC TV programme at home since 2002. I have when house sitting for friends, who had the necessary TV Licence.
The restricted times when I had the opportunity to legally watch BBC TV at home only confirmed that I am not missing anything important.
Best wishes from George
This part comes from the fact other channels like ITV, channel 4 and channel 5 use BBC broadcasting equipment. They should be well off enough by now to pay for their own. BBC should be separate, or better still it should become a digital and online subscription service only, meaning those who want to watch pay, and those who do not, don't. As long as you don't watch TV as it is being broadcast or live, or use iPlayer, you don't need to pay a penny.
they could make tv sets that are incapable of recieving any bbc broadcasts or iplayer if they so chose, but they know that if they give people the option that people will choose to have one that cant receive the bbc and then they will all be out of jobs so thats never going to happen
Wise words Jon 👍😂👍
Think about this, more and more pensioners are going over 75 so don't need a licence, and there are no new mugs setting up home who need a licence to replace them. BBC are getting desperate
Most under 35s don't watch TV, increasingly more people are switching off from the mainstream channels, therefore they have no future. I don't own a TV, just watch TH-cam, but when i see TV round friends or family i realise i don't miss it. Yeah, i don't think antideluvian is relevant to her argument.
I cancelled my TV Licence back in 2012.. No problem and only the occasional unread easily binned letter 😎
I've got 11 grandchildren from age 6-19 and not one of them watches any tv. Even when they stop over at mine, all they do is watch TH-cam on tv. The only reason i have a tv set is for them because i never watch it myself.
But they're missing out on Beyond Paradise
Ridiculous! We lived in Guernsey, the rental had a tv. We decided to pay for a license was stupid. We hardly watched, online was becoming available. We mainly used the tv for dvd's
Is probably something to do with her age when she was younger you used to have to register your television with the TV licence well the shop did 😅
NOT HAD A FEE FOR A FEW YEARS NOW....and the thing about BBC and Netflix? you have a choice to use Netflix n nobody will harass you for a fee.we do not have to have a licence...but even the online form is fudged so folk feel guilty or unsure. glad you put this out for them
Nah, I saw a TV detector van raid in the 1980s, a grey Sherpa van. I didn't have a licence then, the van pulled up, and 4 or 5 men jumped out running towards my house. I thought,"Oh shit!" But they ran past my house and raided a neighbour who was a mate of mine. He was a portly fellow, and was laid out on his sofa watching his telly in just his Y fronts, these goons banged on his door and his wife let them in. He wasn't in a position to argue, almost naked with the telly on. He was taken to court and fined, must admit I thought my time had come. I haven't watched TV in years so now don't need a licence.
Old TVs (the analog kind) did emit a specific frequency as a side effect of demodulating the received analog TV signal.
That is what an old fashioned detector could detect, and it was proven to work to determine that you were demodulating a live signal.
BUT, the problem was it was no good if you lived in a block of flats, or even a row of terraced houses. The detector antenna wasn't accurate enough to pinpoint which flat that specific frequency was coming from. So because of this, no one was ever prosecuted for watching TV without a license.
Anyway, that's all irrelevant now if you watch live broadcasts via your broadband connection. They cant legally snoop on that, and if they did, they would be hauled over the coals in court.