When you said the 1/2 1/4 thingie I realized sometimes I have really good days, like REAL good, I noticed a pattern recently that when I focus on my tapping noise ( the keyboard basically ) I hit things easier, especially now that my headset broke on one side and I don’t use it anymore.. so I think whenever i focus on the keyboard I accidentally end up figuring out the rhythm of the map im playing, I recently started focusing on the rhythm way more in the way I said before and im suddenly setting so many good scores ( for my level ).
There is another more Locked In method I will speak on soon in a new video. But listening to your tapping is one way of staying on rhythm. Sorry about your headset…
yo that's me at 17:50 on the lb!! Genuienely tho this video is really good! I'm currently rank 440 and mostly a stream player and still learned stuff from this so thanks a lot haha
dude, im not even joking, before this video i never fced the first kiai of "mirror mirror" and after the vid i got 1980 combo run... ???? very insightful vid!
Replay analysis personally helps me a lot with spaced streams. When I encounter a pattern I couldn't hit, I make a training map out of it and analyze my attempts in Rewind. I can see where I was off beat / overaimed / underaimed and compensate accordingly.
agreed on looking at the individual circles -- i used to just read the stream shape which would work for regular streams but i would have to be lucky to hit spaced ones. however, playing hdhr was actually what forced me to just read the individual circles, and now im able to hit spaced streams and really windy and fast streams more consistently
UR VIDS ARE A GODSEND!! helped me confirm im learning at a good pace! tysvm. only regret was not getting into this game earlier!! 27 and i feel so slow
This video is amazing. I'm definetely going to implement these things once I've recovered from my hand injury(non osu related). Especially the counting.💙
This has honestly been really helpful, ive been trying to learn streams and i cant lie the one thing that worked for me the best was buying a keypad and not using my laptop keyboard lmao. But other than that, im around 260k rn and have been trying to get the flow aim down, i have the speed and stamina for playing those maps because i sometimes used autopilot to train, which obviously didnt help for my aim, but i choked fcs on yggdrasil and honesty(the 5*) today and passes through the fire and flame for the first time, and was somehow able to get a 3 miss on yami no mahou(the 5*). And my stamina was nowhere near that before this video
What I did was (around 3k currently) was first play long stream maps for stamina, which I would play for warmup every session. Then I would just play whatever I felt like. Instead of just the idea of stamina, I like to think of the idea of comfortability. When I could do short streams of 180bpm, I played normal stream maps around that bpm range where I focused on getting comfortable. I believe that even by playing just low bpm maps, you can build stream comfortability where you learn how to properly read streams and how to tap evenly. For me what indicated that I was comfortable was when I no longer felt strain on 180 bpm and could consistently push for higher bpm seemingly randomly (meaning I had never really try to play at that bpm before). What helped most for me was naturally letting the uncomfortability of streams naturally shape my technique(I use mostly fingers for high bpm and some wrist for low). If something felt uncomfortable, I would change my technique to make it more comfortable, and did that everyday until my natural technique was confortable always. I'm now currently grinding spaced streams and 220+ bpm consistency... Yomi Yori fc incoming 🙏🙏 Also the most important tip I have is: If you don't feel like it, just don't play it. For example, if my fingers felt particularly heavy one day, I would just not play streams(or not play osu). I found that when I didn't force myself to play, I would always perform better the next day. ok sorry for writing so long guys 😅
This is certainly an interesting and informative video, althought my training and methods of improving stamina and speed and the way I aim streams and spaced streams are different, i can see this being extremely useful to most other people and actually help them out in some way. As for me, since i've started, I've always believed that the faster you can stream, the more stamina you will have for lower bpms and this has turned out to be right for me as when i practiced high bpm streams, my stamina on lower bpm streams become more and more infinite. For instance, when i started out, I wanted like 180bpm stamina so instead of playing 180bpm streams, I played like 205+bpm stream maps, which may have seem counter intuitive, but after actually stretching my hands and making sure I have a good technique and pushing myself through the burn, my hands eventually learnt how to stream 205+bpm and then I could actually deathstream 180 and even 190 with ease. And as of recent times, I've gotten to the point where I can play and stream a fair bit of 240-250bpm which has coincided into me having incredible stamina on 210 and 220bpm maps, making maps like freedom dive actually possible for me. And as for flow aim, this is probably the weirdest thing but I primarily read and look at all the circles within a specific combo colour (for example, lets say there's a green 1-5 stream pattern coming up within a big stream then I'll focus on the green pattern until the next combo colour comes up) I dont necessarily look at each circle individually but rather chunk them all up by combo colour. And I want to say that i got this habit because I am actually an EZ and low ar player and so I've come to rely and base my entire reading off of combo colours and numbers as thats what I'd use to read when playing super dense reading maps, either low ar or EZ.
I’m not a great stream player by any means (yet) but I can share my experiences about how I got comfortable and consistent with streams. I used to be the absolute garbage at streams, get it right today lose it the next week; deathstream 200 today, finger lock for months, etc.. I am down bad for streams, it’s my favorite thing to do in osu but for the love of me I sucked so bad. I started practicing streams more seriously in 2020 and had only been getting the consistency that I dreamed of as of this month (yippee) well with a lot of long breaks too. The turning point was definitely when I can “feel” my left hand, it’s like growing more braincells 💀. For the longest time I can not actually feel the individual notes I was pressing (tapping really hard didn’t help either) until some random ahh day my 2 braincells realized I have a left hand (can’t believe I reached 15k like that by playing jumps, the fu-). By some magic I dont finger lock 24/7 anymore, only when I wasn’t focusing or misreading will get me locked. My mentality was sooo full of anxiety when playing streams, all I think is “can I just keep improving or will I fall back as it has been for the last 2 years” , now I’m really satisfied with my capabilities after refining my tapping and consistency, suuper comfortable with streams. Just don’t force your self to play ‘practice diffs’ that you don’t enjoy, you’ll beat yourself up if you don’t do better after playing so so sO much of that same. stupid. square streams. Play maps that make you happy folks. TL;DR: Not just looking at circles people, feel each note with your hand. And play maps YOU enjoy, not practice diffs (unless you really like them, you’re free to do so), speed it up, slow it down with osu trainer and you can enjoy the map f o r e v e r
So I my way of building stamina is just speeding up maps to the point where I can pass and play tech maps after that day for finger control. Works great currently.
i dont play osu anymore but i liked commented and subscribed because i always struggled with space streams when i did and wouldve killed for this video thank you so much
hearing your pointers on stamina is actually super helpful! I have had problems with long stream stamina at the 170+ range for literal years, even tho i've been grinding stamina for a while and can comfortably hit 120-160 bpm deathstreams. however cuz of it i've got pretty good finger control for burstier maps like a lot of demetori stuff and focused training maps like chaoz fantasy (only bottom diff tho my fingers aint fast enough for the other stuff LOL) (also for keeping in time if counting is too hard you can also tap your foot on the floor, the tactile feedback of the ground helps a TON) also a bit of a pointer for my low bpm brethren; if you can play 130-160 bpm comfortably and want to learn spaced streams a lil faster, ALT MAPS HELP A LOT. Since the patterns are usually much more spaced than at higher bpms it sorta makes them easier to hit.
i think its important to improve with the intention of fcing. even though i play stream maps most of the time i dont improve that much because i never expect to fc, and therefore i never improve at fcing even though my stamina is a little better also i can attest that reading each individual note is extremely useful. its how i was able to FC a 7 minute map with SD and not feel nervous (even though it was a jump map)
Its hard to stay focused during long maps and follow each circle, it takes me a lot of effort to not lose that focus. Also woah 7 minute map with SD, I could never lol, SD makes me way too nervous.
that's an interesting point. even when playing maps way outside their comfort zone/FC range, top players still get big combos. but when i play outside my comfort zone i shitmiss a lot, probably because, as you said, i don't have the intention of FCing. not necessarily a stream specific thing, but still feels like some unlocked wisdom. thank you
@mostsanekeqingenjoyer i mean focus and mindset-wise. i don't focus as much when I play maps outside my comfort zone outside diffspikes, which leads to lots of shitmisses, and, I think, diminishes improvement to be gained from playing skillcap maps, because I'm not truly trying as hard as I could be.
@mostsanekeqingenjoyer also looked at your channel and I actually replied to your comment about FCing Yuki wa Naniiro with "shit" acc on the beatmap's page. cool to see you again
@@kyariiii-2.0 Dont feel bad about your rank! We all start somewhere and all it takes is time, remember that if you learn something new every day and strive to do so, you will grow and thrive! And thank you for your kind words!
@@Chaoticy cf anything under 6 stars if it isn't a steam map in 2-3 tries, i almost exclusivly play 6-7 stars and im 120k. if i unlock streams i would almost only play long rock songs like idke
@@Chaoticy Sorry i'm lying to myself. I could play any 4 star and fc with 99.5 acc but 5 stars is fc after 10 attempts with 95.0 acc or lower and 6 stars are passes and fcs with 80+ acc. my jump aim is 6-7 star range and my streams are at a 4-5 star level.
one note about the stamina parts of the video: bpms dont just fit into neat little boxes, and treating building stamina for "high bpm" differently from "low bpms" is kinda reduntant. what high and low bpms are for you will change as your technique and stamina develop. if someone lacks stamina for 170 then 170 is a high bpm for that person, even if its "objectively" low bpm. if someone can stream 220 bpm forever then its a low bpm for them, etc.
Ive come back to this comment and read it multiple times and this time will be the final time because it dawned on me. Will be talking about this in my next video. Thank you viewer!
I could never play higher ARs so I ended up just gravitating towards streams after long 6* consistency maps weren’t sufficient for pp anymore. Probably a result of only ever playing with hidden lmao After some hiatus I’m trying to get my streaming back and I’m hoping this video can still apply to hd stream players 😊
honestly relatable since ar10 is hard most days for me especially with hr 🫠 I think my main problem with spaced streams so far is keeping my cursor velocity constant. Watched my failed replay on dawn of the dragonstar top diff and I broke when my cursor movement stumbled a little. Do you have any tips for that? I really want to start setting 500s again
These used to give me soooo much trouble... Especially when maps have 1/6 patterns on a mostly 1/4 map, I still sometimes struggle, like that one Dragon Guardian map... I should probably work on it a bit more.
I am ranked 50k and cant play most stream based maps and can only really play some basic speed maps because i am a dt player. Even though i play a good amount of stream maps i still suck at them. Im going to try and put more dedication into these types of maps and try to learn a consistent tapping method
I know this isnt really necessary for anyone, but if drinking water improves recovery, then taking creatine should help recovery too as much as drinking a lot more water, it helps strenght and recovery exact same as drinking more because it simply helps water retention in muscle which happens when you just drink more, it also helps better memory which could help too, yes you need to buy about bi-monthly but there could be people who could use it
One year ago, I did not repect my hand and I'm still suffering the consequences, my once bright osu career is pretty much over. I can live my life normally at least but my thumb muscles are forever scarred from rsi, although I am going through some physical therapy which has worked a little bit so I shall see what the future holds
Playing EZ and low AR helped me to read more comfortable any streams, mb because it has the same idea as u mention in your video, trying to read every note separately from the others. Mb someone could corroborate similar experience
im a 17k nm stream player that has stagnated for the past couple months after setting my top play, I hope this gets me out of the hole im in rn in terms of improvement. Either way good vid
Man, I remember a year and a half ago when I was at my peak, I was training stamina and I got rly good to the point I could stream 220 from not being able to stream 170 after like, 3 months of training. However, because I didnt take care of my wrist it started to hurt and I had to gradually stop playing. I played here and there after that for a year but I lost consistency and I still had to stop playing after an hour or 2. Right now, my wrist has healed and ive been trying to derust for 6 months now. Please take breaks. Its important to let your body heal too
I cannot stress taking breaks enough, an hour long session if done the right way can be just as valuable if not more valuable than a 2 or 3 hour session, take care of yourselves!
7:35 the thing is, i full alt so suikyou heaven wont really help me much considering that there are literally 0 streams in this map lol honestly, i feel like because of my full alt playstyle, bursts do nothing to me and i still cant deathstream 200, even tho suikyou heaven does absolute 0 to my stamina 11:54 why do you need to hear your keycaps if there are hitsounds? lol
I'm none of a top player, just a low 6 digits player, but may I share some of my experience in learning how to stream? I personally acquired my streaming technique in quite a natural manner, at that time didn't really look up for any kinds of tip and trick regarding it, but rather just jumped right into the maps (I was practicing 4* stuffs around that time) Briefly saying, my improvement progress can be summarized like this: Not being able to acc a burst => being able to acc burst patterns consecutively at a certain bpm => add more not to the burst/speed that up => being able to stream Nowadays I can sometimes play 240 bpm burst, and anything below that ceiling is among my streaming comfort zone, as long as it's not about deathstream (cuz my flow aim is not consistent enough I suppose, but I have a long way to go, still. About flow aim specifically, like what I wrote previously, when I was able to play longer burst (which can actually call a "stream" already), I started to have a feeling about how fast/slow I should aim in order to adapt to the stream patterns, and the accuracy part is all about muscle memory I suppose. Then speaking of the video, I think it's quite inspirational to me who took this osu! game seriously quite late to actually become a "good player", I can't tell if I can make it all the way up to 3 digits or so in just 4 years counting from now, but we will see, ig :)
when you say just look at every individual circle i simply cant do that i dont know why i always read with my peripheral vision im trying, but its very difficult for me
Yo this helped a ton! I could already hit spaced streams but hitting them consistently was what i struggled with. Anyways let me get to the point.. can you link the edit of the bacon boi skin that you are using 🥺 Big W tho still
I'm not going to lie, I don't really understand what my issue is when i'm trying to read spaced streams. I've come to understand on my own that looking at individual notes helps a TON with understanding your spatial awareness in accordance with your aim consistency, but no matter what I try to do, when I look at a spaced stream (even if only barely) regardless of the AR etc, I just for some reason only manage to see it with a little bit of my eye which simiply makes me forget the notes location and I chain miss. I don't understand why my eyes wont properly follow what I know i'm exactly trying to follow, let alone what i'm supposed to do to train that shortcoming better. (21k)
This isnt about the video, kinda, but I started playing osu! in 2021, but i only played at certain times since it was my brothers PC. (Also started osu!droid in 2020) I finally got my first 5 star pass on a stream map, it has alot of small reverse sliders so that helped alot. I got a little cocky and told myself "maybe i can pass the 6 star dif" (6.7 stars) Lets just say..that was a horrible idea. Cant even get past the first 10 seconds 😅 (right now, im around rank #960,000. I keep messing up alot though because of mouse drift, idk why i didnt have this problem before. So im actually playing more taiko/mania now)
question, when playing stream practice maps normally i can stream 1.2k notes at 190 bpm in a row with no problems and my hands dont burn whatsoever, but i play the deathstream in euphoria my arms start burning halfway through the stream, and explanations as to why this happens? I'm assuming i unconsciously tap harder on an actual map because its a more intense environment
well for one the first stream in euphoria is a stream that changes in spacing a lot, and for two it's od 9.5, which can be hard to play deathstreams on if you don't have practice
@@vTigerx Its not really the od its just that for some reason when playing calmer stream maps i have seemingly infinite stamina but anything that my brain deems harder my stamina just evaporates
i cant just be the only one who's 5 digit and trying to learn flow aim and streams? How am I even supposed to practice the 200 bpm map if its 7.5 stars and completely impossible for me?
How do I train spaced streams? I can hit them with overstreaming almost everytime but when I do acc I can hit it too but it is very rare, so I almost always miss and die on spaced stream when I try doing SS, my hand is like moving faster and slower, faster and slower, on that spaced streams, my hand just can't keep one good speed perfect tempo flow to aim it or it is very difficult lol
Have you ever experienced that "hitch" in the fingers? It causes me to tap too early and then locks me into 100s. Do you correct your streaming speed when you stream and get 100s, or focus on simply keeping the UR really low regardless if you are off beat due to a mistake. It happens on those onlyforyou LongStream maps a lot for me, especially on slower BPM. Eventually one of my fingers either locks or does that weird "hitch" that makes me go too early. Thank you. Also, have you tried reading Spaced Streams on Hidden? I find that reading one note at a time becomes impossible on HD Spaced Streams and Low AR Streams on HD. It feels like Hidden forces you to read/memorize the entire pattern. Also, hey man. Twenties aren't old. I am 29 years old but don't feel like it makes any difference.
Do you reckon single tapping is better for actually building stamina? I max out at 200 bpm without mashing and cant singletap for shit. Ive just been wondering if my full alt playstyle is locking my stamina behind
Any tips for 6 digits like me who can do 190 relatively comfortably but cannot do maps like glory days or lionheart without over streaming. I want to learn how to do lower bpms so I can play more maps
Play harder and harder maps that you enjoy playing until you can fc them and it will eventually snowball, at 6 digit you can pretty much play anything you want and gain ranks, as long as you fc. So focus on fcing for now.
21 minute video that can be summarized by playing more insane the only positive I can see someone getting from this video is learning what skillsets they might need to practice in the first place, the truth that everyone needs to know is that there is no way to “learn” how to get better at osu. osu coaching, for example has to be the biggest scam in the osu community by farrr
What if I have stamina but my fingers just refuse to move, fingerlock Like when i'm playing even 170bpm digitalhypno long stream practice maps, in the middle of the map my fingers just stop moving even thought my hand is feels like there are no stamina consumed at all this doesn't happens on the good days tho
The only time I ever experience something like this is if I play too many days in a row without taking a day or two break from playing... Maybe you are playing too often?
@@Chaoticy nah, it's an opposite actually nowadays i don't even have time to play osu everyday, or even 2 days out of 4, when i used to play everyday for months
what causes fingerlock for me is either not enough warm up or its a bpm im not comfortable on. physically having the stamina for a bpm vs being able to maintain the rhythm ive found are two very seperate things. play easier maps at that bpm where you can focus more consciously on your tapping and work your way up. at least that's what worked for me
I've been quitting and coming back to osu for some time now (more like resting instead of quitting) I love the game and I mainly play death streams but every time I play I get finger pain (sharp pain), I'm not sure if it is because of my technique, table height or other factors, but every time I play for a week my fingers hurt for the rest of the day and then a quit for a month until it doesn't hurt so I don't break my finger and then come back and same thing happens again. Any ideas on how to solve this? :|
tbh everything in this video... everyone is saying it there's literally no other way to imrpove stamina i know a lot people might watch it cuz they cant improve stamina but they already know what to do at least i did when i was pushing stamina i dont really need anymore i got inf stamina on 220 and can deathstream 250 but yea if you wanna improve stamina play streams your not gonna be able to play 220 when you cant even 180 ofc you gonna start playing 180 first and the only thing i can recommend please for the love of god do not play 140bpm or square stream practice it wont improve you a bit you play square practice to check your limit not to improve and even if you check its most likely gonna be inaccurate like i can play 1k+ notes on 220 but i cant play them on square practice and for the 140bpm i saw people who started playing streams at 6 digit like 2k-3k pp and saying its genetics cuz they cant play 150bpm "streams" ofc you cant you cant even SS 5* what you talking about playing streams if you want to start learning streams do that on 50k rank at least so you have basics and can tap 200-220bpm bursts
so I’ve played with hidden as long as I’ve touched the game, and reading nomod streams is much more difficult to me than with hidden. What can I do to kind of untrain that bad habit which might help me read nomod (and possibly hidden) streams better?
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"Just look at the circles" is probably the best singe piece of advice to improve any kind of aim, it seems so stupid and obvious but it just works
When you said the 1/2 1/4 thingie I realized sometimes I have really good days, like REAL good, I noticed a pattern recently that when I focus on my tapping noise ( the keyboard basically ) I hit things easier, especially now that my headset broke on one side and I don’t use it anymore..
so I think whenever i focus on the keyboard I accidentally end up figuring out the rhythm of the map im playing, I recently started focusing on the rhythm way more in the way I said before and im suddenly setting so many good scores ( for my level ).
There is another more Locked In method I will speak on soon in a new video. But listening to your tapping is one way of staying on rhythm. Sorry about your headset…
yo that's me at 17:50 on the lb!!
Genuienely tho this video is really good! I'm currently rank 440 and mostly a stream player and still learned stuff from this so thanks a lot haha
dude, im not even joking, before this video i never fced the first kiai of "mirror mirror" and after the vid i got 1980 combo run... ???? very insightful vid!
No way! Thats awesome!
1980!?!?!??
Replay analysis personally helps me a lot with spaced streams. When I encounter a pattern I couldn't hit, I make a training map out of it and analyze my attempts in Rewind. I can see where I was off beat / overaimed / underaimed and compensate accordingly.
agreed on looking at the individual circles -- i used to just read the stream shape which would work for regular streams but i would have to be lucky to hit spaced ones. however, playing hdhr was actually what forced me to just read the individual circles, and now im able to hit spaced streams and really windy and fast streams more consistently
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Thanks this helped me get my first 15 pp play 😊
Actually just realized that this video is a lie because you cant play osu and have a wife like its not possible
Sometimes the impossible becomes possible
i also have a wife, its completely possible man. you can do it
@@Nyash01beat the odds (that's a song)
Ok impossible for you@@xenai.
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UR VIDS ARE A GODSEND!! helped me confirm im learning at a good pace! tysvm. only regret was not getting into this game earlier!! 27 and i feel so slow
This video is amazing. I'm definetely going to implement these things once I've recovered from my hand injury(non osu related). Especially the counting.💙
I hope you recovery goes well and you can get back to clicking circles at some point!
This has honestly been really helpful, ive been trying to learn streams and i cant lie the one thing that worked for me the best was buying a keypad and not using my laptop keyboard lmao. But other than that, im around 260k rn and have been trying to get the flow aim down, i have the speed and stamina for playing those maps because i sometimes used autopilot to train, which obviously didnt help for my aim, but i choked fcs on yggdrasil and honesty(the 5*) today and passes through the fire and flame for the first time, and was somehow able to get a 3 miss on yami no mahou(the 5*). And my stamina was nowhere near that before this video
What I did was (around 3k currently) was first play long stream maps for stamina, which I would play for warmup every session. Then I would just play whatever I felt like.
Instead of just the idea of stamina, I like to think of the idea of comfortability. When I could do short streams of 180bpm, I played normal stream maps around that bpm range where I focused on getting comfortable. I believe that even by playing just low bpm maps, you can build stream comfortability where you learn how to properly read streams and how to tap evenly.
For me what indicated that I was comfortable was when I no longer felt strain on 180 bpm and could consistently push for higher bpm seemingly randomly (meaning I had never really try to play at that bpm before). What helped most for me was naturally letting the uncomfortability of streams naturally shape my technique(I use mostly fingers for high bpm and some wrist for low). If something felt uncomfortable, I would change my technique to make it more comfortable, and did that everyday until my natural technique was confortable always.
I'm now currently grinding spaced streams and 220+ bpm consistency... Yomi Yori fc incoming 🙏🙏
Also the most important tip I have is: If you don't feel like it, just don't play it. For example, if my fingers felt particularly heavy one day, I would just not play streams(or not play osu). I found that when I didn't force myself to play, I would always perform better the next day.
ok sorry for writing so long guys 😅
This is certainly an interesting and informative video, althought my training and methods of improving stamina and speed and the way I aim streams and spaced streams are different, i can see this being extremely useful to most other people and actually help them out in some way. As for me, since i've started, I've always believed that the faster you can stream, the more stamina you will have for lower bpms and this has turned out to be right for me as when i practiced high bpm streams, my stamina on lower bpm streams become more and more infinite. For instance, when i started out, I wanted like 180bpm stamina so instead of playing 180bpm streams, I played like 205+bpm stream maps, which may have seem counter intuitive, but after actually stretching my hands and making sure I have a good technique and pushing myself through the burn, my hands eventually learnt how to stream 205+bpm and then I could actually deathstream 180 and even 190 with ease. And as of recent times, I've gotten to the point where I can play and stream a fair bit of 240-250bpm which has coincided into me having incredible stamina on 210 and 220bpm maps, making maps like freedom dive actually possible for me.
And as for flow aim, this is probably the weirdest thing but I primarily read and look at all the circles within a specific combo colour (for example, lets say there's a green 1-5 stream pattern coming up within a big stream then I'll focus on the green pattern until the next combo colour comes up) I dont necessarily look at each circle individually but rather chunk them all up by combo colour. And I want to say that i got this habit because I am actually an EZ and low ar player and so I've come to rely and base my entire reading off of combo colours and numbers as thats what I'd use to read when playing super dense reading maps, either low ar or EZ.
I’m not a great stream player by any means (yet) but I can share my experiences about how I got comfortable and consistent with streams. I used to be the absolute garbage at streams, get it right today lose it the next week; deathstream 200 today, finger lock for months, etc.. I am down bad for streams, it’s my favorite thing to do in osu but for the love of me I sucked so bad. I started practicing streams more seriously in 2020 and had only been getting the consistency that I dreamed of as of this month (yippee) well with a lot of long breaks too. The turning point was definitely when I can “feel” my left hand, it’s like growing more braincells 💀. For the longest time I can not actually feel the individual notes I was pressing (tapping really hard didn’t help either) until some random ahh day my 2 braincells realized I have a left hand (can’t believe I reached 15k like that by playing jumps, the fu-). By some magic I dont finger lock 24/7 anymore, only when I wasn’t focusing or misreading will get me locked. My mentality was sooo full of anxiety when playing streams, all I think is “can I just keep improving or will I fall back as it has been for the last 2 years” , now I’m really satisfied with my capabilities after refining my tapping and consistency, suuper comfortable with streams. Just don’t force your self to play ‘practice diffs’ that you don’t enjoy, you’ll beat yourself up if you don’t do better after playing so so sO much of that same. stupid. square streams. Play maps that make you happy folks.
TL;DR: Not just looking at circles people, feel each note with your hand. And play maps YOU enjoy, not practice diffs (unless you really like them, you’re free to do so), speed it up, slow it down with osu trainer and you can enjoy the map f o r e v e r
Well said
TL;DR just look at the circles 5head
As a stream player myself. This video is crazy accurate to what I do. Good video!
So I my way of building stamina is just speeding up maps to the point where I can pass and play tech maps after that day for finger control. Works great currently.
i dont play osu anymore but i liked commented and subscribed because i always struggled with space streams when i did and wouldve killed for this video thank you so much
Thank you for the support!
hearing your pointers on stamina is actually super helpful! I have had problems with long stream stamina at the 170+ range for literal years, even tho i've been grinding stamina for a while and can comfortably hit 120-160 bpm deathstreams. however cuz of it i've got pretty good finger control for burstier maps like a lot of demetori stuff and focused training maps like chaoz fantasy (only bottom diff tho my fingers aint fast enough for the other stuff LOL) (also for keeping in time if counting is too hard you can also tap your foot on the floor, the tactile feedback of the ground helps a TON)
also a bit of a pointer for my low bpm brethren; if you can play 130-160 bpm comfortably and want to learn spaced streams a lil faster, ALT MAPS HELP A LOT. Since the patterns are usually much more spaced than at higher bpms it sorta makes them easier to hit.
i think its important to improve with the intention of fcing. even though i play stream maps most of the time i dont improve that much because i never expect to fc, and therefore i never improve at fcing even though my stamina is a little better
also i can attest that reading each individual note is extremely useful. its how i was able to FC a 7 minute map with SD and not feel nervous (even though it was a jump map)
Its hard to stay focused during long maps and follow each circle, it takes me a lot of effort to not lose that focus. Also woah 7 minute map with SD, I could never lol, SD makes me way too nervous.
that's an interesting point. even when playing maps way outside their comfort zone/FC range, top players still get big combos. but when i play outside my comfort zone i shitmiss a lot, probably because, as you said, i don't have the intention of FCing. not necessarily a stream specific thing, but still feels like some unlocked wisdom. thank you
@mostsanekeqingenjoyer i mean focus and mindset-wise. i don't focus as much when I play maps outside my comfort zone outside diffspikes, which leads to lots of shitmisses, and, I think, diminishes improvement to be gained from playing skillcap maps, because I'm not truly trying as hard as I could be.
@mostsanekeqingenjoyer also looked at your channel and I actually replied to your comment about FCing Yuki wa Naniiro with "shit" acc on the beatmap's page. cool to see you again
thanks for this video i am going to fc logical stimulus tomorrow
Your Tips are so good i will 100% use these
👍
Thank you so much! I hope to see you on the leaderboards soon! :D
@@Chaoticyprobably not since i'm only 300k but even so i can still use many of the Things you Said, thank YOU for this great guide
@@kyariiii-2.0 Dont feel bad about your rank! We all start somewhere and all it takes is time, remember that if you learn something new every day and strive to do so, you will grow and thrive! And thank you for your kind words!
@@Chaoticy Thank you for the motivational words, and i will continue playing osu! until i have achieved my goals
Underrated af
Thank you
I find it very hard to look at every circle especially when it’s cross screen jumps. I use peripheral vision way too much
cool vid will try these maps out
Excellent video wow
12:38 I feel called out, cuz I am that player xdd
Anything passed 7-10 notes fucks me up because i have no stamina and lack fun stream maps
i pass 6-8 star jump maps but i can’t pass 5 star stream maps or maps longer than 3 minutes because of streams
Never mind i just had to slow them down to 130 bpm to aim and tap on time
What star rating are you comfortable playing?
@@Chaoticy cf anything under 6 stars if it isn't a steam map in 2-3 tries, i almost exclusivly play 6-7 stars and im 120k. if i unlock streams i would almost only play long rock songs like idke
@@Chaoticy Sorry i'm lying to myself. I could play any 4 star and fc with 99.5 acc but 5 stars is fc after 10 attempts with 95.0 acc or lower and 6 stars are passes and fcs with 80+ acc. my jump aim is 6-7 star range and my streams are at a 4-5 star level.
one note about the stamina parts of the video: bpms dont just fit into neat little boxes, and treating building stamina for "high bpm" differently from "low bpms" is kinda reduntant. what high and low bpms are for you will change as your technique and stamina develop. if someone lacks stamina for 170 then 170 is a high bpm for that person, even if its "objectively" low bpm. if someone can stream 220 bpm forever then its a low bpm for them, etc.
Ive come back to this comment and read it multiple times and this time will be the final time because it dawned on me. Will be talking about this in my next video. Thank you viewer!
I could never play higher ARs so I ended up just gravitating towards streams after long 6* consistency maps weren’t sufficient for pp anymore. Probably a result of only ever playing with hidden lmao
After some hiatus I’m trying to get my streaming back and I’m hoping this video can still apply to hd stream players 😊
I still cant play high ar's ;-;
Even ar10 is hard some days
honestly relatable since ar10 is hard most days for me especially with hr 🫠
I think my main problem with spaced streams so far is keeping my cursor velocity constant. Watched my failed replay on dawn of the dragonstar top diff and I broke when my cursor movement stumbled a little. Do you have any tips for that? I really want to start setting 500s again
Section 2 was something I've always known about. The main problem was me hitting anything in a subsequent subdivision 1/4 or 1/6 💀
These used to give me soooo much trouble... Especially when maps have 1/6 patterns on a mostly 1/4 map, I still sometimes struggle, like that one Dragon Guardian map... I should probably work on it a bit more.
I am ranked 50k and cant play most stream based maps and can only really play some basic speed maps because i am a dt player. Even though i play a good amount of stream maps i still suck at them. Im going to try and put more dedication into these types of maps and try to learn a consistent tapping method
I know this isnt really necessary for anyone, but if drinking water improves recovery, then taking creatine should help recovery too as much as drinking a lot more water, it helps strenght and recovery exact same as drinking more because it simply helps water retention in muscle which happens when you just drink more, it also helps better memory which could help too, yes you need to buy about bi-monthly but there could be people who could use it
suikyou heaven is such a god tier map.
Agreed
One year ago, I did not repect my hand and I'm still suffering the consequences, my once bright osu career is pretty much over. I can live my life normally at least but my thumb muscles are forever scarred from rsi, although I am going through some physical therapy which has worked a little bit so I shall see what the future holds
thanks man
Playing EZ and low AR helped me to read more comfortable any streams, mb because it has the same idea as u mention in your video, trying to read every note separately from the others. Mb someone could corroborate similar experience
great video
Thank you so much!
im a 17k nm stream player that has stagnated for the past couple months after setting my top play, I hope this gets me out of the hole im in rn in terms of improvement. Either way good vid
Whats your top play?
I went godmode and choked a 560 on chanci's sidetracked day. worth 489pp atm. Kinda pissed about it since I missed after the streams >:( @@Chaoticy
glad i'm not the only one old ass aged player in this game
Man, I remember a year and a half ago when I was at my peak, I was training stamina and I got rly good to the point I could stream 220 from not being able to stream 170 after like, 3 months of training. However, because I didnt take care of my wrist it started to hurt and I had to gradually stop playing. I played here and there after that for a year but I lost consistency and I still had to stop playing after an hour or 2. Right now, my wrist has healed and ive been trying to derust for 6 months now. Please take breaks. Its important to let your body heal too
I cannot stress taking breaks enough, an hour long session if done the right way can be just as valuable if not more valuable than a 2 or 3 hour session, take care of yourselves!
damn i had the exact same situation, derusting rn
7:35 the thing is, i full alt so suikyou heaven wont really help me much considering that there are literally 0 streams in this map lol
honestly, i feel like because of my full alt playstyle, bursts do nothing to me and i still cant deathstream 200, even tho suikyou heaven does absolute 0 to my stamina
11:54 why do you need to hear your keycaps if there are hitsounds? lol
I'm none of a top player, just a low 6 digits player, but may I share some of my experience in learning how to stream?
I personally acquired my streaming technique in quite a natural manner, at that time didn't really look up for any kinds of tip and trick regarding it, but rather just jumped right into the maps (I was practicing 4* stuffs around that time)
Briefly saying, my improvement progress can be summarized like this:
Not being able to acc a burst => being able to acc burst patterns consecutively at a certain bpm => add more not to the burst/speed that up => being able to stream
Nowadays I can sometimes play 240 bpm burst, and anything below that ceiling is among my streaming comfort zone, as long as it's not about deathstream (cuz my flow aim is not consistent enough I suppose, but I have a long way to go, still.
About flow aim specifically, like what I wrote previously, when I was able to play longer burst (which can actually call a "stream" already), I started to have a feeling about how fast/slow I should aim in order to adapt to the stream patterns, and the accuracy part is all about muscle memory I suppose.
Then speaking of the video, I think it's quite inspirational to me who took this osu! game seriously quite late to actually become a "good player", I can't tell if I can make it all the way up to 3 digits or so in just 4 years counting from now, but we will see, ig :)
oh, thanks bud@mostsanekeqingenjoyer
ty for video
welcome for video
when you say just look at every individual circle i simply cant do that i dont know why i always read with my peripheral vision im trying, but its very difficult for me
A LESSON ON SPACED WORMS.
My consistent of tapping is very bad, I think it's my finger techniques and finger issues..
Yo this helped a ton! I could already hit spaced streams but hitting them consistently was what i struggled with.
Anyways let me get to the point.. can you link the edit of the bacon boi skin that you are using 🥺
Big W tho still
Its just the normal skin nothing changed about it
@@Chaoticy oh but there are playfield borders and stuff.
@@mizuto1 oh yeah I forgot about that, I just took the asset from a different skin that had it I think it was amaestric 2020
@@Chaoticy o thanks
I'm not going to lie, I don't really understand what my issue is when i'm trying to read spaced streams. I've come to understand on my own that looking at individual notes helps a TON with understanding your spatial awareness in accordance with your aim consistency, but no matter what I try to do, when I look at a spaced stream (even if only barely) regardless of the AR etc, I just for some reason only manage to see it with a little bit of my eye which simiply makes me forget the notes location and I chain miss. I don't understand why my eyes wont properly follow what I know i'm exactly trying to follow, let alone what i'm supposed to do to train that shortcoming better. (21k)
This isnt about the video, kinda, but
I started playing osu! in 2021, but i only played at certain times since it was my brothers PC. (Also started osu!droid in 2020)
I finally got my first 5 star pass on a stream map, it has alot of small reverse sliders so that helped alot.
I got a little cocky and told myself "maybe i can pass the 6 star dif" (6.7 stars)
Lets just say..that was a horrible idea. Cant even get past the first 10 seconds 😅 (right now, im around rank #960,000. I keep messing up alot though because of mouse drift, idk why i didnt have this problem before. So im actually playing more taiko/mania now)
road to 2 digit train
I like this guy, he funny
question, when playing stream practice maps normally i can stream 1.2k notes at 190 bpm in a row with no problems and my hands dont burn whatsoever, but i play the deathstream in euphoria my arms start burning halfway through the stream, and explanations as to why this happens? I'm assuming i unconsciously tap harder on an actual map because its a more intense environment
well for one the first stream in euphoria is a stream that changes in spacing a lot, and for two it's od 9.5, which can be hard to play deathstreams on if you don't have practice
@@vTigerx Its not really the od its just that for some reason when playing calmer stream maps i have seemingly infinite stamina but anything that my brain deems harder my stamina just evaporates
@@artrix909 the od does a lot more than you think unless you play that od or higher a lot, but yeah. Stamina is partially reading in a way
i play better on higher od actually lol i play alot of hr
im definitely burnt out if I watch a tutorial of something in osu...
i cant just be the only one who's 5 digit and trying to learn flow aim and streams? How am I even supposed to practice the 200 bpm map if its 7.5 stars and completely impossible for me?
I hope i can finally get the 700pp plays that i deserve !
You can do it!
I didnt understand the part of the rhythms as how to count, what do we sync it up to or how do i know what i need to relate to the number of 1 2 3 4?
How do I train spaced streams? I can hit them with overstreaming almost everytime but when I do acc I can hit it too but it is very rare, so I almost always miss and die on spaced stream when I try doing SS, my hand is like moving faster and slower, faster and slower, on that spaced streams, my hand just can't keep one good speed perfect tempo flow to aim it or it is very difficult lol
Have you ever experienced that "hitch" in the fingers? It causes me to tap too early and then locks me into 100s. Do you correct your streaming speed when you stream and get 100s, or focus on simply keeping the UR really low regardless if you are off beat due to a mistake.
It happens on those onlyforyou LongStream maps a lot for me, especially on slower BPM. Eventually one of my fingers either locks or does that weird "hitch" that makes me go too early. Thank you.
Also, have you tried reading Spaced Streams on Hidden? I find that reading one note at a time becomes impossible on HD Spaced Streams and Low AR Streams on HD. It feels like Hidden forces you to read/memorize the entire pattern.
Also, hey man. Twenties aren't old. I am 29 years old but don't feel like it makes any difference.
Not sure if I have ever experienced that but I would stay away from long stream maps they are not good
@@Chaoticy khz had great success building stamina on them they're not inherently bad
Do you reckon single tapping is better for actually building stamina? I max out at 200 bpm without mashing and cant singletap for shit. Ive just been wondering if my full alt playstyle is locking my stamina behind
does happil with dt work? It's 210 bpm and having ~57 notes of deathstream but it's short
are you the honesty guy
Not exactly sure what this means, but sure, why not.
W
Any tips for 6 digits like me who can do 190 relatively comfortably but cannot do maps like glory days or lionheart without over streaming. I want to learn how to do lower bpms so I can play more maps
Play harder and harder maps that you enjoy playing until you can fc them and it will eventually snowball, at 6 digit you can pretty much play anything you want and gain ranks, as long as you fc. So focus on fcing for now.
I have tried learning streams in general for quite a while but i just cant seem to gain stamina or speed at all
@mostsanekeqingenjoyer i mean like i can do well on like 160-175bpm but after that its doomed
spac strem
what the hell you sound younger than me and I'm 17 help
good voice btw
21 minute video that can be summarized by playing more
insane
the only positive I can see someone getting from this video is learning what skillsets they might need to practice in the first place, the truth that everyone needs to know is that there is no way to “learn” how to get better at osu. osu coaching, for example has to be the biggest scam in the osu community by farrr
Ok so I just need to get a wife with musical talent, got it!
What if I have stamina but my fingers just refuse to move, fingerlock
Like when i'm playing even 170bpm digitalhypno long stream practice maps, in the middle of the map my fingers just stop moving even thought my hand is feels like there are no stamina consumed at all
this doesn't happens on the good days tho
The only time I ever experience something like this is if I play too many days in a row without taking a day or two break from playing... Maybe you are playing too often?
@@Chaoticy nah, it's an opposite actually
nowadays i don't even have time to play osu everyday, or even 2 days out of 4, when i used to play everyday for months
@@givikap120 Makes sense
what causes fingerlock for me is either not enough warm up or its a bpm im not comfortable on. physically having the stamina for a bpm vs being able to maintain the rhythm ive found are two very seperate things. play easier maps at that bpm where you can focus more consciously on your tapping and work your way up. at least that's what worked for me
I have question. Do you have any tips for hidden streams? Do you have played enough hidden streams to have any tips?
I am the worst hidden player in the history of osu!
I've been quitting and coming back to osu for some time now (more like resting instead of quitting) I love the game and I mainly play death streams but every time I play I get finger pain (sharp pain), I'm not sure if it is because of my technique, table height or other factors, but every time I play for a week my fingers hurt for the rest of the day and then a quit for a month until it doesn't hurt so I don't break my finger and then come back and same thing happens again. Any ideas on how to solve this? :|
tbh everything in this video... everyone is saying it there's literally no other way to imrpove stamina i know a lot people might watch it cuz they cant improve stamina but they already know what to do at least i did when i was pushing stamina i dont really need anymore i got inf stamina on 220 and can deathstream 250 but yea if you wanna improve stamina play streams your not gonna be able to play 220 when you cant even 180 ofc you gonna start playing 180 first and the only thing i can recommend please for the love of god do not play 140bpm or square stream practice it wont improve you a bit you play square practice to check your limit not to improve and even if you check its most likely gonna be inaccurate like i can play 1k+ notes on 220 but i cant play them on square practice and for the 140bpm i saw people who started playing streams at 6 digit like 2k-3k pp and saying its genetics cuz they cant play 150bpm "streams" ofc you cant you cant even SS 5* what you talking about playing streams if you want to start learning streams do that on 50k rank at least so you have basics and can tap 200-220bpm bursts
Alternative title: how to get 700pp on slider
:( but I sliderbroke and it went to 599 instead of 704 what do I do now
beatmap links in the description are broken for me
You gotta copy paste them
bout to get 30 700s
play more stream map 😁👍
will it have the same effect if i will change suikyou heaven to 170 bpm?
Yes if you want to train 170bpm stamina
epic
Thank you bluelikescola my most loyal subscriber
so I’ve played with hidden as long as I’ve touched the game, and reading nomod streams is much more difficult to me than with hidden. What can I do to kind of untrain that bad habit which might help me read nomod (and possibly hidden) streams better?
If you play with HD and that is easier for you and you enjoy it then you should keep playing with HD.
holy shit is that thesalami from osu!palestine
Hi@@paithen7033
Should I turn off Hidden to learn streams.
(Hidden one-trick but still play dt/hr, just no mod is hard for me
Play HD if thats more comfortable for you, there are many good stream players who know how to play HD.
Is looking at every circle not a normal thing to do? I have always done that
Some people always do it, but for me it was very hard to get into the habit of doing it, I have adhd though…
flow aim is not skillcap you will plateau, learn dt as well
i like your voice
Where are the maps you were going to link?
oops adding them now (Will add more later but there are good ones in there for the moment)
@@Chaoticy tysm :D
skin?
Bacon boi blue
Just play the game
man the first thing that helped u with rhythm sense is ur waifu, and what if i dont ahve a musician wife LMAO