I've been getting handcramps after 1 or 2 songs, and was really bummed out, but I tried the grip where the thumb is higher up and it worked better! Thank you so much for this video!
I've been anchoring my elbow on my chair's armrest, keeping my hand and arm in the air, using little wrist movement and a lot of arm movement, pressing the pen straight down on the tablet and dragging. It's really comfortable but I fear that I can never be very precise doing this as increasing my tablet area any further than I have already makes me lose tight control of my aim, yet the way it is now I can't make cross-screen jumps. hvick's grip looks promising, I might try that.
search Kit Kittington playing Tijdmachine on youtube, I think its the same grip as yours. dont believe he did any scores in the last 7/8 years but it still a pretty good score especially considering how long ago he did it
@@heyhy579 do you have any tips to find my type of grip? in the the only grip I can maintain my pen stable, my hand starts to hurt really fast and when the grip gets comfortable It just slips away
!!! IMPORTANT !!! Note 1: Someone pointed out that my WhiteCat grip attempt wasn't close to WhiteCat's, so here's another image if you think that I've got it wrong: gyazo.com/a2d38bedb42c3694f700941652957a9b It just goes to show that hand shape and size means that copying other people's grips isn't the best idea after all, so please go with something that you're comfortable with! Note 2: I forgot to mention shige's (Cookiezi) grip as well NOOOO!!!! He uses a dynamic quadrupod grip with the pinky finger to support his hand as it rests on the tablet: gyazo.com/e4818719b7fad82bdd30eb4a781d8d36 Note 3: I think someone got confused between ‘grip’ as in gripping the pen with your hands and ‘grip’ as in wrapping tennis overgrip around your pen. So I’m going to let you guys know just in case, this video is all about showcasing pen holds, not tennis overgrip - applying tennis overgrip will be another part to the series.
straight up performing the necessary mathematical calculations to find the optimal shoe size with an inaccuracy of no more than 0.000000000001 micro metres
interesting video, even though I've known my grip and area for nearly 8 years. I use something close to the lateral tripod but very slightly less angled to the left at "rest" and I use the full area of my tablet. when I am in a corner, the pen is pointed toward that angle, rather than staying always the same direction.
6:42 i like how you say "un holy angle" 🤣 Fun fact : the "un holy angle" was actually rally comfortable if you use it.....I use that angle and almoat FCed a 5* map"
This guide was very helpful! I found out I'm a lateral quadrupod guy, it's really comfy and I can play full songs without my wrist getting sore every time or so.
hey, i wanted to say thank you, this guideline helped me alot i made a 82pp (61pp was my best play before the 82) play today and the comfort of my tablet rised by like 1000x times.
Well said, i personally use the quad grip with the thumb wrapping around the entire grip. Now i really cant think of anyone that uses this grip apart from hugofrost but what i just realized is that ur grip really influences ur area because my area is so similar to hugofrost. Note that i didnt copy hugofrosts area, i was just doing what tonehh said on his area video which is trial and error. I tried 80 but it was too slow so i went with 75, still too slow and went for 60 then got comfy with it.
I stopped using my pen grip for about 2 weeks because of the pain it causes in long periods and how it restricted my movement. After that I moved to a lateral tripod type grip but more to the side kinda like mathi's grip but lower and it's pretty much perfect for me it just took about a week to get used to it fully.
Really good and entertaining Video, i think you explained everything pretty good so even newer Players can easily understand it. Im not a new player so i already found my Grip (same as yours ^^) but i found the Video still really enjoyable cause i find your jokes etc nice xD gonna sub so i dont miss the next Video :D
I really appreciate the video, I started back in September last year and got to 70k by April, but I didn't deserve it. I farmed to keep up and beat friends, but after a forced 3 month break (stoopid covid) from osu, I am left in the dirt, and am trying to reinvent myself by going back to only 4 stars and changing my grip. I had hit a massive wall where my playing was garbage on all fronts, and my pen grip style was hurting and cramping a lot. Also no matter what direction I put the buttons on the pen, they would always find a way to get pressed by my thumb or fingers causing my aim to wobble a ton, so pen grip is kinda useless. I had seen other grip types in the past, but this video was the only one that went in depth with it. Good video, well made, and it is going to help me a lot as I experiment.
@Thatguys Is very dead My grip is much more solid now and I am just as good or better than I was when I stopped farming. But I haven't played online in so long that my rank is back around 95k. That's right, I am a dirty offline player now! is gaem, plz enjoi.
I started off with the "Dynamic Quadrupod" because that's how I normally write, but ended up switching to the "Lateral Quadrupod" because I found it easier to aim.
My natural grip for writing: Dynamic Quadrupod, but the pen tip points to the top My grip when playing osu!: Dynamic Tripod And yea... when i use my natural grip for osu! my finger hurts a lot.
I played with one grip for 7-8 months, but last month my hand hurts bad and i cant play. Any grip that i try feels very uncomfortable because i used to my grip. It is really sad, i am thinking about switching back to mouse even.
The thumb grasp grips the most comfortable for me I've been using the lateral tripod grip since its the most comfortable at the time but my thumb hindered the movements and just didn't feel right but the thumb grasp grip solved it just need getting use too.
In my case I use a dynamic tripod, I used to do a similar grip but with my thumb's first joint bent inwards, but since then I've adapted the grip to put less pressure on my thumb, like the grip in the video. If I were to be a grip supremacist, it would be because you can use the tips of your fingers rather than the middles of them to guide the stylus, which means finger movement would have better control with less force. But if you use your wrist to move that doesn't matter.
To be honest, I've fucked up plays and also have had various bad days because I felt like I wasn't holding the mouse, but just moving it around without actually having a hold of it. I'm planning on getting a tablet because it seems fun. If I have problems with mouse, I will with tablet, but so be it.
I was used to take the lateral quadrupod and discovered by this video that this is the one of the mrekk. But also like a lot whitecat grip which hurts me less so I'm hesitating
Your grip presentation the lateral grips are diffrent than the picture. At least the lateral ones. The pen in the pictures is lying near the kuckle of pointing finger unlike your. Same with whitecat grip or maybe even more gripes which you showed.
whilst you may be right (particularly with the whitecat grip, i couldn't replicate it with my small hands), realistically the identification or presentation of a grip doesn't actually matter - i stated that in the video, it's just a starting point for inspiration on the variety of ways that a pen can be held. a grip doesn't have to be copied 100% to its scientific description to be considered a comfortable grip - it can be hard to do so anyway because hand shapes and sizes are different.
but whats hard with presentation this grip? i have small hands too and silimar grip to whitecat one, and of course it can be comfortable but as i said the pictures and whitecat grip are diffrent than yours presentation
@@krzysio0901 am not quite sure but i'm gonna assume that I found it hard to properly replicate whitecat's grip so i apologise if the grips are different to what i presented
i went with pencil grip at like 3mm higher and it hurt a lot at start but i've improved and i'm able to do 4.5 stars and up on mouse i only could do les than 4 and no improving
i feel like no matter what grip i use, nothing changes, if i try to do a spinner the pen gets extremely low down on my hand, to the point where i am touching the nib, my natural position is terrible for this, and all of these feel extremely uncomfortable especially for being left handed
I found the grip and tablet sensitivity to play with and I played with it pretty well for a long time, but it made my hands quite sore and uncomfortable, should I change it?
What mind boggles me is how majority of people play with pen with wrist wresting... That shit tightens your wrist and is bad. I also feel limited in speed this is with hovering however I can adjust to it but it's not as consistent for combos compared to my hover wrist with alternate dragging.
I'm left handed, I use whitecat's grip, except I am a dragger and my whole hand is on the air except my pinky finger, I use my pinky finger as some kind of tripod cuz if my hand is floating and I play osu for 4hours it is gonna be painful
I feel like every grip is uncomfortable because I never actually held a pencil properly until now, and no matter what I do it's inconsistent at best, so what solution have I got?
Is this just me but, i use a dynamic tripod grip but whenever i play long maps, my thumb goes higher and it turns into a lateral tripod grip, and somehow it feels natural, but whenever i start playing directly with a lateral tripod grip, it doesnt feel right
My grip is like "Ok that seems to work, damnit it doesnt work, ok ill grip it like I grip a pencil, ok that worked Ill stick with that" Thats how I found my grip, but its still irregular from a normal pencil grip(im kinda weird lol) Also i have to adjust my grip because I swapped to drag from hover(my grip adjusted to accommodate the hover playstyle and now I gotta do that for drag)
Toneh, please reply to this. Pleaseee, I have ordered a tablet anddd I am a left handed person, but since I use my left hand to tap, I'm not sure whether to change my tapping hand, I have no clue whether to practice my right hand to aim the pen or to get back to the basics to get used to right hand tapping, gimme your advice. THANKS :D
so my problem is i asked on osu chat they said use what you're using with pencil but the problem is im left handed still dont get it? I aim with right hand thats why i searched for this vid
should still be a lateral quadrupod, though the names aren't the main point of the video - rather it should help inspire people to find some grips to start off with, so don't dwell on it too much!
I have been using a standard pen grip ever since I bought a tablet and only recently did I start feeling all the pain but now I feel like it's too late for me to switch grips
what is definition of comfortable grip? my grip already comfortable but some pattern hard to follow consistently and end up pen slipping lower and lower...mostly tech or long map 6-7*...is this my grip fault (does i need to change it)or just my hand need to get used of it
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I've been getting handcramps after 1 or 2 songs, and was really bummed out, but I tried the grip where the thumb is higher up and it worked better! Thank you so much for this video!
I've been anchoring my elbow on my chair's armrest, keeping my hand and arm in the air, using little wrist movement and a lot of arm movement, pressing the pen straight down on the tablet and dragging. It's really comfortable but I fear that I can never be very precise doing this as increasing my tablet area any further than I have already makes me lose tight control of my aim, yet the way it is now I can't make cross-screen jumps. hvick's grip looks promising, I might try that.
search Kit Kittington playing Tijdmachine on youtube, I think its the same grip as yours.
dont believe he did any scores in the last 7/8 years but it still a pretty good score especially considering how long ago he did it
reedkatt does the exact same and he's good don't worry.
1:02 my guy was using a diamond sword for the pen.
Dude this really helps, especially a new osu tablet player
Utomo Abimail glad to hear it!
I just got tablet today, and I’m not very good but I’m practicing
@@suaymiofficial we all start bad you'll get good
@@heyhy579 do you have any tips to find my type of grip? in the the only grip I can maintain my pen stable, my hand starts to hurt really fast and when the grip gets comfortable It just slips away
@@dinatheragingrat8145 do you have discord?
!!! IMPORTANT !!!
Note 1:
Someone pointed out that my WhiteCat grip attempt wasn't close to WhiteCat's, so here's another image if you think that I've got it wrong: gyazo.com/a2d38bedb42c3694f700941652957a9b
It just goes to show that hand shape and size means that copying other people's grips isn't the best idea after all, so please go with something that you're comfortable with!
Note 2:
I forgot to mention shige's (Cookiezi) grip as well NOOOO!!!! He uses a dynamic quadrupod grip with the pinky finger to support his hand as it rests on the tablet: gyazo.com/e4818719b7fad82bdd30eb4a781d8d36
Note 3:
I think someone got confused between ‘grip’ as in gripping the pen with your hands and ‘grip’ as in wrapping tennis overgrip around your pen. So I’m going to let you guys know just in case, this video is all about showcasing pen holds, not tennis overgrip - applying tennis overgrip will be another part to the series.
I wish the people in shoe stores where like this bruh....
straight up performing the necessary mathematical calculations to find the optimal shoe size with an inaccuracy of no more than 0.000000000001 micro metres
interesting video, even though I've known my grip and area for nearly 8 years. I use something close to the lateral tripod but very slightly less angled to the left at "rest" and I use the full area of my tablet. when I am in a corner, the pen is pointed toward that angle, rather than staying always the same direction.
ah i see the student has now become the master 😌
bruce o7 thank you sensei
I just ordered a tablet and it came today. This series is very helpful, thank you.
6:42 i like how you say "un holy angle" 🤣
Fun fact : the "un holy angle" was actually rally comfortable if you use it.....I use that angle and almoat FCed a 5* map"
This guide was very helpful! I found out I'm a lateral quadrupod guy, it's really comfy and I can play full songs without my wrist getting sore every time or so.
I use "the grip"
its where you take the pen and grip it with 4 of your fingers and put the thumb on top of them
hey, i wanted to say thank you, this guideline helped me alot i made a 82pp (61pp was my best play before the 82) play today and the comfort of my tablet rised by like 1000x times.
You get a new top play yet?
@@andybuscus383 yeah but i havent played that much since ^^
My best play is around 130pp
@@akinam0 Pretty sure my top play was the same back when you got your 62 as it is now. Lol.
funny thing i was just testing grips and i accidentally got into the same grip whitecat uses before i saw it and i was like "hmm this is pretty good"
I love that you keep uploading videos, THANK YOU!
Well said, i personally use the quad grip with the thumb wrapping around the entire grip. Now i really cant think of anyone that uses this grip apart from hugofrost but what i just realized is that ur grip really influences ur area because my area is so similar to hugofrost. Note that i didnt copy hugofrosts area, i was just doing what tonehh said on his area video which is trial and error. I tried 80 but it was too slow so i went with 75, still too slow and went for 60 then got comfy with it.
I stopped using my pen grip for about 2 weeks because of the pain it causes in long periods and how it restricted my movement. After that I moved to a lateral tripod type grip but more to the side kinda like mathi's grip but lower and it's pretty much perfect for me it just took about a week to get used to it fully.
Really good and entertaining Video, i think you explained everything pretty good so even newer Players can easily understand it. Im not a new player so i already found my Grip (same as yours ^^) but i found the Video still really enjoyable cause i find your jokes etc nice xD gonna sub so i dont miss the next Video :D
thank you so much for your feedback!! glad to see that some of my crappy jokes make the video a bit more lively :D
Thank you for this video, i really have big problems with my grip, i have changed it a lot of times but now i’ll just keep my actual grip
I really appreciate the video, I started back in September last year and got to 70k by April, but I didn't deserve it. I farmed to keep up and beat friends, but after a forced 3 month break (stoopid covid) from osu, I am left in the dirt, and am trying to reinvent myself by going back to only 4 stars and changing my grip. I had hit a massive wall where my playing was garbage on all fronts, and my pen grip style was hurting and cramping a lot. Also no matter what direction I put the buttons on the pen, they would always find a way to get pressed by my thumb or fingers causing my aim to wobble a ton, so pen grip is kinda useless. I had seen other grip types in the past, but this video was the only one that went in depth with it.
Good video, well made, and it is going to help me a lot as I experiment.
@Thatguys Is very dead My grip is much more solid now and I am just as good or better than I was when I stopped farming. But I haven't played online in so long that my rank is back around 95k. That's right, I am a dirty offline player now! is gaem, plz enjoi.
this video was actually a lot more helpful than I thought it would
I started off with the "Dynamic Quadrupod" because that's how I normally write, but ended up switching to the "Lateral Quadrupod" because I found it easier to aim.
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(from left to right)
Top row: WhiteCat, hvick225, mrekk
Middle row: RyuK, Freddie Benson, Tonehh
Bottom row: Bubbleman, FlyingTuna?, idke
Welp apparently mine is closest to freddie benson's and i also found out when i jitterspin my hand looks like a talon
I've used tablet for 3 years and still found this useful lol. Turns out my grip was trash
My natural grip for writing: Dynamic Quadrupod, but the pen tip points to the top
My grip when playing osu!: Dynamic Tripod
And yea... when i use my natural grip for osu! my finger hurts a lot.
Naturally my pencil grip is a lateral quadrupod. I feel like it's kinda unique.
I played with one grip for 7-8 months, but last month my hand hurts bad and i cant play. Any grip that i try feels very uncomfortable because i used to my grip. It is really sad, i am thinking about switching back to mouse even.
The thumb grasp grips the most comfortable for me I've been using the lateral tripod grip since its the most comfortable at the time but my thumb hindered the movements and just didn't feel right but the thumb grasp grip solved it just need getting use too.
I like how im searching for pen grip just because my index finger is so pressured to how i hold my pen and yeah it hurts like hell
the diamond sword is a great grip ngl
Been playing for years and just getting back into osu after not playing for about 2 years. never tried different grips so imma watch this and see
i'm playing this game 6 years but can't find a good pen grip
Bro who came up with these HUGE BRAIN names for pen grips lmao also very nice and informative video!
In my case I use a dynamic tripod, I used to do a similar grip but with my thumb's first joint bent inwards, but since then I've adapted the grip to put less pressure on my thumb, like the grip in the video.
If I were to be a grip supremacist, it would be because you can use the tips of your fingers rather than the middles of them to guide the stylus, which means finger movement would have better control with less force. But if you use your wrist to move that doesn't matter.
this video help a lot now that im using lateral tripod i can actually do consistent snaps
I use a CTH-680 and use the pencil grip
To be honest, I've fucked up plays and also have had various bad days because I felt like I wasn't holding the mouse, but just moving it around without actually having a hold of it. I'm planning on getting a tablet because it seems fun. If I have problems with mouse, I will with tablet, but so be it.
I just hold my pen like I would a regular pencil. I've been doing it long enough so that it doesn't hurt or get sore anymore, so that's nice.
I was used to take the lateral quadrupod and discovered by this video that this is the one of the mrekk. But also like a lot whitecat grip which hurts me less so I'm hesitating
i've ever used grip that similar to freddie benson, but it's kinda hard to control so i changed my grip similar to mrekk grip or my own usual pen grip
Damn awesome video. I wish I would've watched something like this when I started.
Fredie Bensons grip is a lateral tripod grip but it is at an angle, this forms when you point the pen downwards instead of upwards like umbres.
Yoo the freddies grip is amazing 10/10
FINALLY FOUND THIS KINDA VID , TYSM
Kagendra Reynara glad to hear it!
the sonic sun and moon music hits diff
As i started playing osu i used the 5 finger grasp grip and after half a year i switched to the ryuk grip.
i've been playing for over a year with tablet but my hand feels uncomfortable ever since
Your grip presentation the lateral grips are diffrent than the picture. At least the lateral ones. The pen in the pictures is lying near the kuckle of pointing finger unlike your. Same with whitecat grip or maybe even more gripes which you showed.
whilst you may be right (particularly with the whitecat grip, i couldn't replicate it with my small hands), realistically the identification or presentation of a grip doesn't actually matter - i stated that in the video, it's just a starting point for inspiration on the variety of ways that a pen can be held. a grip doesn't have to be copied 100% to its scientific description to be considered a comfortable grip - it can be hard to do so anyway because hand shapes and sizes are different.
but whats hard with presentation this grip? i have small hands too and silimar grip to whitecat one, and of course it can be comfortable but as i said the pictures and whitecat grip are diffrent than yours presentation
@@krzysio0901 am not quite sure but i'm gonna assume that I found it hard to properly replicate whitecat's grip so i apologise if the grips are different to what i presented
whenever i use whitecat’s grip it’s the most comfortable and my aim is a lot more steady, but give me one square and i’ll draw circles and lose.
you helpped me so much thanks you
pd: if some word is not correctly write sorry, im spanish
i went with pencil grip at like 3mm higher and it hurt a lot at start but i've improved and i'm able to do 4.5 stars and up on mouse i only could do les than 4 and no improving
and then it would be hurt alot again
@@sphynx8110 that wasn't english also it's a lot*
@@badita2618 yeah it was not, definitely spanish
So I'm a left handed and I'm using the Cookiezi style with my right hand
:thinking:
You remind me of ppl buying WhiteCat's tablet, using rafis skin and cookiezi's grip and ask why they don't improve, no offense
I came back to this video because im so inconsistent with my grip.
thank you
how would anyone call the grip vaxei is using rn? it really looks confusing as hell
I was wondering why my thumb kept tingling and falling asleep… I’ve been using my grip wrong this whole time
i feel like no matter what grip i use, nothing changes, if i try to do a spinner the pen gets extremely low down on my hand, to the point where i am touching the nib, my natural position is terrible for this, and all of these feel extremely uncomfortable especially for being left handed
POV The tablet you have ordered is on its way so now you are here
i’m not a new user but i made my area smaller and switched to drag now my hand gets tired and hurts really fast...
I found the grip and tablet sensitivity to play with and I played with it pretty well for a long time, but it made my hands quite sore and uncomfortable, should I change it?
What mind boggles me is how majority of people play with pen with wrist wresting... That shit tightens your wrist and is bad. I also feel limited in speed this is with hovering however I can adjust to it but it's not as consistent for combos compared to my hover wrist with alternate dragging.
“Should I copy his grip??” I did, modified it, now it’s my main grip and it’s great
Amazing
As an artist I just feel comfortable with the basics pen grip.
Using a dynamic quadrupod but the pen is perpendicular to the tablet surface.
Very nice video :D
ty!
What grip would you use if you fast access to pen buttons without sacrificing stability?
I'm left handed, I use whitecat's grip, except I am a dragger and my whole hand is on the air except my pinky finger, I use my pinky finger as some kind of tripod cuz if my hand is floating and I play osu for 4hours it is gonna be painful
I feel like every grip is uncomfortable because I never actually held a pencil properly until now, and no matter what I do it's inconsistent at best, so what solution have I got?
i use white cat grip at school for taking notes
i love you!!!
im left handed and i just came up with my own grip lol.
It's my normal writing grip, and it's kinda similar to whitecat's.
I’m new to tablet. Just started using it today. But I just hold my pen 🖊️ the same way I hold a pencil. So I’m keeping it at that
You got the same monitor as me :D
I have the same casio's calculator, pog
i use an extremely hig lateral tripod with my ringfinger and pinky sticking outwards
i watched 2.44 min just feel like whitecat rn u are diff my man
my problem is for no reason my hand sweats too much and when i take my hand off my tablet there is literally water dripping down my tablet
Is this just me but, i use a dynamic tripod grip but whenever i play long maps, my thumb goes higher and it turns into a lateral tripod grip, and somehow it feels natural, but whenever i start playing directly with a lateral tripod grip, it doesnt feel right
Aiiueo if it happens naturally then let it happen naturally - don’t dwell on the grip style too much haha
i ALSO USE THE typical DYNAMIC TRIPOD BROO
My grip is like "Ok that seems to work, damnit it doesnt work, ok ill grip it like I grip a pencil, ok that worked Ill stick with that"
Thats how I found my grip, but its still irregular from a normal pencil grip(im kinda weird lol)
Also i have to adjust my grip because I swapped to drag from hover(my grip adjusted to accommodate the hover playstyle and now I gotta do that for drag)
Toneh, please reply to this. Pleaseee, I have ordered a tablet anddd I am a left handed person, but since I use my left hand to tap, I'm not sure whether to change my tapping hand, I have no clue whether to practice my right hand to aim the pen or to get back to the basics to get used to right hand tapping, gimme your advice. THANKS :D
Just realise you're using the same mic as mine
I found a decent grip, but my ring finger hurt alot, before was my pinky. I don't know what to do at this point 😢
I use a hybrid of cookiezi and whitecat's grip where I hold my pen with my thumb and have my pinky and the bottom since I hover
I hold my pen half way and straight down the tablet and my tablet doesn't have a protective screen
so my problem is i asked on osu chat they said use what you're using with pencil but the problem is im left handed still dont get it? I aim with right hand
thats why i searched for this vid
if i use a lateral quadripod with the thumb wrapping the pen, what is that called?
should still be a lateral quadrupod, though the names aren't the main point of the video - rather it should help inspire people to find some grips to start off with, so don't dwell on it too much!
I hear that sonic unleashed music you fucking legend
I hold my pen like how I hold m pencils but instead of my thumb being in the outside it’s in the inside
I have been using a standard pen grip ever since I bought a tablet and only recently did I start feeling all the pain but now I feel like it's too late for me to switch grips
today i learned Im a dynamic tripod lol
I hold my pen at the tip when playing osu to the point when my index finger can touch my tablet
Oh yeah and because of that I hover now lol
I hold my pen like a pencil and it works pretty good. But it hurtw sometimes, when I am nervous or play harder levels.
i hold my pen like vaxei but instead of support the pen on ring finger, i support in middle finger
Lateral quadrupod full area chad here
I naturally hold my pen very similarily to hvick except lower
i've used to play with dynamic tripod, but my hands hurt these days. I'm trying new grips hopefully i can find the best grip for me!
what is definition of comfortable grip? my grip already comfortable but some pattern hard to follow consistently and end up pen slipping lower and lower...mostly tech or long map 6-7*...is this my grip fault (does i need to change it)or just my hand need to get used of it