Learn Finnish: Olemme vs. Ollaan | KatChats

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  • In this video lesson, I'll be going over the difference between olemme and ollaan. In puhekieli these two words can be used pretty interchangeably, but actually hold slightly different meanings.
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ความคิดเห็น • 76

  • @pitchayapleebut92
    @pitchayapleebut92 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Kiitos paljon. I was an exchange student in Joensuu for 9 months and just came back home for 3 weeks. Your video helps really good in learning Finnish because I don’t want to loose my Finnish. And I’m planning to go back there for my master.
    Keep doing your good work 💕

    • @KatChatsFinnish
      @KatChatsFinnish  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh wow that's awesome! I hope you had a great time! :) Thank you for the incredibly sweet message, I wish you all the best for when you apply for Master's, glad my video's are helpful!

    • @irenealtavilla2582
      @irenealtavilla2582 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's awesome! I'm going on exchange to Finland as well in August, and trying to learn as much as possible while I'm here :-) can I ask you if you knew any Finnish before and how learning it in 9 months went?

    • @pitchayapleebut92
      @pitchayapleebut92 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      KatChats Thank you so much. I did have an amazing time there 💙 feel like Finland is my second home now. That’s why I have to go back 🇫🇮

    • @pitchayapleebut92
      @pitchayapleebut92 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Irene Altavilla That’s great. Where in Finland are you going? I didn’t know any Finnish before and started to take the course in the second semester. Finnish is really diffcult and it depends if you will get to use it a lot or not. Mostly we, exchange students, didn’t use it that much but I was in the circumstance that I could get to pratice it so mine was a little bit better than my friends 😂 Gotta say being friends with the Finns is not easy 🙈
      If you want to ask anything more about the exchange life there, I would be more than happy to answer. My instagram is lauralauraa28

  • @sousouwyattgibson7767
    @sousouwyattgibson7767 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Can you share with us the most common proverbs and idioms in Finland?

  • @addisutibebu8775
    @addisutibebu8775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're fantastic
    realy your vedio is help me thank you kat chat

  • @tarush200
    @tarush200 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    it pretty much depends where you insert the noun
    syödään kalaa we are eating fish / we eat fish
    kalaa syödään the fish is being eaten

  • @ernestogonzalezrubio6029
    @ernestogonzalezrubio6029 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, Excellent videos. I´m learning a lot

  • @jamieyoung8863
    @jamieyoung8863 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the videos! Please teach us how to make negative sentences! Sending love from South Korea♥

  • @okaro6595
    @okaro6595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finnish passive differs from the English one that it assumes a human actor. "Puu kaadettiin" someone logged the tree. "Puu kaatui" The tree fell by itself maybe because of a wind.

  • @kirkendauhl6990
    @kirkendauhl6990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The way you described it as “bookish” makes total sense. My friend Johanna said comparing the formal/informal Finnish ways of speaking is very similar to comparing normal American English to a very Pompous and Posh butler speaking English with a British accent.
    The more I’m hearing Finnish in both forms and the more I’m seeing it on my social media the more apparent it’s becoming. Not that I can speak much, but that I can look at a couple sentences and be like “oh ok I’m gonna skip reading this, I want to learn formal Finnish first.”

    • @KatChatsFinnish
      @KatChatsFinnish  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh that's interesting, the first time I've heard a comparison like that but makes total sense! It's great that you're beginning to differentiate between the two types of Finnish :)

    • @kirkendauhl6990
      @kirkendauhl6990 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      KatChats thank you(: it’s a wild ride so far but I like the people and the culture so I’m enjoying it lol

  • @skyroux19
    @skyroux19 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi! Can you please enlighten me when to use the -SSA, -STA, -LLA & -LTA. Thank you too for sharing your knowledge. I really lerned a lot from you. God bless to you!

  • @23456789ronnie
    @23456789ronnie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, i was tree times at school so better you then teacher, Kiitos i will follow you

  • @81shovelhead
    @81shovelhead 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You Rock Kat!!

  • @sunduq
    @sunduq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for this useful lesson. :)

  • @kelseydifelicitas6495
    @kelseydifelicitas6495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Moi! Can you make a video about the verb "to be" -olla. Kiitos.😊

  • @coralietimpe7807
    @coralietimpe7807 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Moi🤗 could you do a video-opening in finish and english?
    Kiitos😘

  • @moekaykhine4633
    @moekaykhine4633 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finnish tatcha is very cute, beautiful.❤️❤️

  • @jancovanderwesthuizen8070
    @jancovanderwesthuizen8070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ollaan is like "man" in German. We say 'n mens in Afrikaans, which is like a human or a person. Or on in French. Ollaan menossa kauppaan = on va au magasin

  • @rolandeekango7515
    @rolandeekango7515 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kiitos paljon.

  • @willjoby1961
    @willjoby1961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Kat, Great vids. Can you please give a coupe of examples of using "ollaan" in the passive way?
    Like "one goes to the park" for example.

  • @tomasbadura4551
    @tomasbadura4551 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    when a verb is in active form, the subject performs the action named. Passive form, when the object performs the action.
    Or that is the definition, how our teacher learns it me.

  • @jnr1075
    @jnr1075 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again rakkaani for this video😘😘😘

    • @jnr1075
      @jnr1075 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      But can you do a video like if I'm traveling somewhere in Finland by Bus,tram or train, mitä mä sanon ensi?

  • @user-ix4jh1ex5c
    @user-ix4jh1ex5c 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kiitos opettaja

    • @KatChatsFinnish
      @KatChatsFinnish  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kiitos :)

    • @rafaelcarloscruz1617
      @rafaelcarloscruz1617 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Im a new learner of finnish. Completely new to it. Im watching all your videos and hopefully i would get to speak finnish eventually

  • @TyphonBaalHammon
    @TyphonBaalHammon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    About the example at 3:09, wouldn't one say "Skotlannissa voi ostaa Irn Bru:n Tescosta" and not "Skotlannissa ostetaan Irn Bru:n Tescosta" ?
    The way I was taught finnish, the former is the proper way to express "In Scotland, one can buy Irn Bru from Tesco", whereas the latter would be more like "In Scotland, someone is buying Irn Bru from Tesco".

    • @izzardclips9350
      @izzardclips9350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Skotlannissa ostetaan Irn BruTA Tescosta" = "In Scotland people buy Irn Bru from Tesco" Your second Finnish sentence is not something a Finn would ever say in Finnish (It can't be BruN in that kind of passive form), your first one is correct and you translate it correctly. Source: Having spoken Finnish fluently since the age of 2. I could be wrong though. Finnish is a tricky language.
      Edit: And "Skotlannissa ostetaan Irn Bru (no partitive OR genitive) Tescosta" would mean "In Scotland, Irn Bru is bought from Tesco" (as in that's the place people usually buy it from over there)

  • @jenemiecalambro1281
    @jenemiecalambro1281 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello I've always watch your videos and it helps me a lot to learn more finnish because you explained it well. I have a question coz im so confused about mistä(where from) question. Why it used also as "what" like for example Mistä ruoasta sä tykkäät? (what food you like?) can you make a video explaining this? Kiitos paljon ja Godbless ❤

  • @Damjes
    @Damjes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Passive voice means subjectification of object. E.g. They killed my dog -> my dog was killed (by them). So, does ollaan also mean that situations?

  • @navrasicsi
    @navrasicsi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Kat,
    I think I understand what you are explaining. But are you sure this is what we call active and passive voice? Or in other words are you sure this is called active and passive voice?
    Active voice: The bird ate the seeds.
    Passive voice: The seeds were eaten by the bird.
    What you are referring to with the kirjakieli meaning sounds more like an impersonal pronoun. Although it's a verb, not a noun, I know. Oh, this is sooo hard. :)

  • @lumina_aya
    @lumina_aya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hei ! it's nice explain ! kiitos paljon, if we say "I am going" as puhekieli
    kuinka sanotaan ? :-) Ollaan menossa kauppaan = we are going to store, right ?
    just "Olen menossa kauppaan" ?

  • @Jonathan-lg1xw
    @Jonathan-lg1xw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, I have one question. How would you do the passive in negative? Emme ole

    • @KatChatsFinnish
      @KatChatsFinnish  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it would be "ei olla" -> here is the whole verb table for olla: www11.edu.fi/ymmarra/index.php?moduli=verbit&sana=olla

  • @MannyWalks
    @MannyWalks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow 👀👀🔥🔥🔥

  • @nordicman595
    @nordicman595 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about verbs other than olla?
    How are they come?
    Also why we are saying ollan menossa? Is "ssa" after the verb or the noun?
    Thanks a lot for your great videos

    • @KatChatsFinnish
      @KatChatsFinnish  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      -ssa can come after a verb or noun - see this: www.uusikielemme.fi/inessiivi.html

  • @jaysanhicaro8667
    @jaysanhicaro8667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you make the video about the -Ko

  • @broytingaravsol
    @broytingaravsol 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    and how about its form in interrogatives?

  • @mathiasmaranhao
    @mathiasmaranhao 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Conjugation? (Olemme situation?)

  • @fepotchinivlogs4032
    @fepotchinivlogs4032 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make a video using ootko and meet ko please? Thank you... 🙏

    • @KatChatsFinnish
      @KatChatsFinnish  ปีที่แล้ว

      ootko = are you..? (puhekieli for "oletko") for example: ootko kaunis = are you pretty
      meetkö = are you going...? (puhekieli for menetkö) for example: meetkä kauppaan = are you going to the store?

  • @byabarumwanzivalens5218
    @byabarumwanzivalens5218 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Give us more examples where we can use ollaan

  • @xionkale3688
    @xionkale3688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    read more Children's story with English and Finnish subtitles like Kolme Pienta Porsastaa video... i learned so many new words from that and it helped me the most... make it a weekly or monthly thing if you can... would help us a lot picking this mesmerizing language up ( ^-^ )

    • @KatChatsFinnish
      @KatChatsFinnish  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ll try to do more haha, but that story I wrote myself in elementary school so idk if there are any more stories like that 😂

    • @xionkale3688
      @xionkale3688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KatChatsFinnish make more please i can't tell you enough how helpful that single video was... just make any children's story like Ugly Duckling, Little red Hen, Goldilock.

  • @user-dp5om3qf1e
    @user-dp5om3qf1e 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    shouldn't it be menessä? or is menossa from a different verb?

    • @elugelab1
      @elugelab1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Menessä would basically mean "in going". Which wouldn't make any sense. Menossa means "going to somewhere".

    • @KatChatsFinnish
      @KatChatsFinnish  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah so "mennä" I guess is more like "to go" and "meno" is kinda like "going" so here is the full list of the different forms: fi.wiktionary.org/wiki/meno

    • @user-dp5om3qf1e
      @user-dp5om3qf1e 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes but isn't menossa in the same verb form as menessä?

    • @KatChatsFinnish
      @KatChatsFinnish  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-dp5om3qf1e Menessä isn't a word in Finnish actually

    • @user-dp5om3qf1e
      @user-dp5om3qf1e 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      turns out i had it mixed up with a different form lol, thanks for the help

  • @williamdegroot-motisi3959
    @williamdegroot-motisi3959 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the difference between menessä and menossa

    • @KatChatsFinnish
      @KatChatsFinnish  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure menessä is a word, did you mean something else maybe? :)

    • @williamdegroot-motisi3959
      @williamdegroot-motisi3959 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      KatChats oof 🤠 Suomi on vaikeaa

    • @KatChatsFinnish
      @KatChatsFinnish  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamdegroot-motisi3959 It is, even for me sometimes hahha xD

    • @tonikaihola5408
      @tonikaihola5408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mennessä = while going (alt. ”No Later than”)
      menneessä = in the past

  • @moekaykhine4633
    @moekaykhine4633 ปีที่แล้ว

    fcSnowska Katcha💕❤️😘👍✌️😍

  • @kimmo6017
    @kimmo6017 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hyvin selität👍😃

  • @hyhhy
    @hyhhy ปีที่แล้ว

    Tässä oli sähäkkä aloitus.

  • @kehtyysvanmaine3133
    @kehtyysvanmaine3133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    teet 9 minuutin videon asiasta jonka olis voinu selittää 5 sekunnissa

  • @WilliamFGilreath999
    @WilliamFGilreath999 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You pronounce generic kind of oddly, to be honest. Kind of reminds me of Bobby's World.

  • @robertobreve8623
    @robertobreve8623 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    we are bla bla bla bla bla

  • @kieran1213
    @kieran1213 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    olemme paskahomo XD

  • @lyntikjourney9382
    @lyntikjourney9382 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about olette and ootte?🫰❤️

    • @KatChatsFinnish
      @KatChatsFinnish  ปีที่แล้ว

      (te) Olette = you are - this is the plural version of you. so like "you guys/y'all..."
      (te) ootte = you are (puhekieli) - also plural