The India-Canada Conundrum | Grand Tamasha
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- It’s been six weeks since Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau took to the floor of Parliament to announce that Canadian security agencies had evidence of credible allegations that Indian authorities had a hand in the killing of a Canadian citizen, Hardeep Singh Nijjar, on Canadian soil in June 2023. Nijjar was a well-known activist in Sikh diaspora circles but someone Indian authorities branded a terrorist.
Trudeau’s allegations led to a rapid downward spiral in bilateral relations between India and Canada, a spiral that shows no immediate sign of ending. To discuss these recent events-and the larger question of bilateral relations between Canada and India-Milan is joined on the show this week by Sanjay Ruparelia. Sanjay is Associate Professor in the Department of Politics and Public Administration at Toronto Metropolitan University, where he holds the Jarislowsky Democracy Chair. He is the host of the podcast, “On the Frontlines of Democracy,” and the author of Divided We Govern: Coalition Politics in Modern India.
Milan and Sanjay discuss how India fits into the Canadian government’s Indo-Pacific strategy, the two countries’ longstanding bilateral struggles over trade and investment, and the explosive growth of the Indian diaspora in Canada. Plus, the two discuss the allegations surrounding the killing of Hardeep Singh Nijjar, the Indian government’s response, and the precarious position the Biden administration finds itself in.
Episode notes:
Sanjay Ruparelia, “The opportunities and challenges of courting India,” in Maxwell A. Cameron, David Gillies and David Carment, eds., Democracy and Foreign Policy in an Era of Uncertainty: Canada Among Nations 2022 (Palgrave Macmillan, 2023): 241-268.
“Reframing Canada’s Global Engagement: Ten Strategic Choices for Decision-Makers,” Global Canada, September 2020.
Sanjay Ruparelia, “In India, the government’s election machine is humming - but the economy and democracy are at risk,” The Globe and Mail, March 22, 2022.
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Jagmeet doesn't understand that everybody have right to demand separate land and raise voice for it but only in their country. Who the hell Canadians are who demand our land?
No mention of the 26 dossiers with extradition requests and information given to the Canadians, mentioned by Indian ambassador to Canada? Objectivity any?
Interesting discussion, but Sanjay Ruparelia seemed to view the Canada-India Trudeau fiasco more with a Canadian ‘hat’. He seemed to suggest that Trudeau must have had strong evidence against India’s or he would not have made the allegation in the Canadian Parliament. But he did not mention that Nijjar had committed serious crimes in India, including his involvement in the assassination of former Chief Minister of the state of Punjab. He was publicly named as the accomplice of the man who assassinated the former chief minister of Punjab.
He is a Canadian citizen. That is the 'hat' he will wear.
If Jagmit was a activist... Then Osama was a scientist
I am sorry. This is so one sided. Nijjar was not just a plumber. He was on a no-fly list in the US. Second no “evidence” as need for a judicial trial cannot exist. Whatever was recorded is indicative not anything more. India is getting the same treatment here like the Gitmo detainees (remember them?). US says they have evidence but cannot be shared, and the detainees cannot be tried, but will be held indefinitely.
Description of Nijjar and Khalistanis doesn't include the public domain evidence of Nijjar with AK-47s, Khalistani vandalisation of Hindu temples in Canada? Blocking Navratari celebrations in Vancouver? And Pannun's (Nijjar's lawyer's) threat of pogrom and blowing up Air India on Nov 19th 2023? No questioning of this by the Indo-Canadian expert?
This is crazy. So, a guy who wants a sovereign state in India was assassinated in Canada ? What about Panuun, is he in India? I don't think that guy was a plumber. Plumbers don't usually get targeted.
A couple of glaring inaccuracies in this discussion:
1. Mr. Milan Vaishnav's use of the term "credible evidence" when the Canadian government itself has used the term "credible allegations of potential links". Amusing how "allegations" became "evidence".
2. Mr. Sanjay Ruparelia's claim that the Indian government had hinted that if such extra-judicial actions are applicable or justified in other contexts then India is justified in carrying out similar actions. The Indian government has issued no such statement. It has rebuffed the allegations and has asked for credible evidence to be presented. These conjectures on the justification for extra-judicial operations came from certain quarters of the Indian media, not the Indian government.
Who cares about presenting facts when the right elements are required to paint a compelling narrative.
Totally agree with ur second point. I have never heard any senior Indian government official justify extra-judicial killings as a legit option bcoz counties like the US or Israel also engage in it! It’s only certain people in the Indian media who have made such arguments. But who cares about facts, bcoz both Sanjay and Milan are just pretending to have an academic discussion. They themselves know their opinions should be taken with a big bucket of salt!
These people are very kind to their own people saying that there could be 'reasons' for not showing evidence. But not kind to the accused.
I guess they don't understand 'presumption of innocence' principle.
This guy is the clown in the circus
This guy is lying. Indian government NEVER forwarded the defence that "other countries do it too" I cahllenge you to provide one, just one official statement from India that US or Israel does it too. Liar! you should be ashamed of yourself.
And don't DREAM of a "new administration in Delhi". So that is what the game is, He slipped at the end.
The questioner is more objective than the interviewee
Sanjay your indepth comments have been very important but I do want to make a point that in your entire conversation it seems that the entire Sikh community is with the terrorists or separatist movement which is not true. These are handful of Khalistanis who have nothing to do with real Sikhism. It is extremely important to make this distinction. Canada is harbouring them . Majority of Sikhs do not support it neither in India nor in Canada
Crux of the matter is ambivalent response of canadians to red corner alerts, extradition requests against khalistanis. And the overall lexity about terrorists, fundamentalist etc
The NDA (National Democratic Alliance) is a Group of 35 Political Parties. This group has 330 seats out of 543 seats in the lower House. Of which BJP alone has 301. Which is more than 272 -- a comfortable majority. So it is NOT a minority Government by any means. So, please do not spread misinformation to already ill-informed Canadians. Judging by the mood in India and the progress India has made under Modi, 2024 is going to Modi and BJP.
Canada can easily rename Vancouver to Khalistan. Everyone will be happy and we all can go back to normal.
Its so one sided and even he don't know the chronological order of the events
Broo 😂😂😂😂 this is so biased
Too little emphasis on the violent history of Khalistanis, the tens of thousands killed between 1978-1990 by them, the nexus between Khalistani extremism and the drug trade, both in India and Canada, and the way a tiny minority of Sikhs who support Khalistan try to bully other Indo-Canadians. Trudeau was the leader who facilitated the rise of extremist politicians in certain splaces (e.g. Surrey) to the detriment of moderate or secular Sikhs. Plus, with their history of violence, which is flaring again, anyone who opposes their ideology runs the danger of physical attack. Canada's position that India is exaggerating the danger is putting moderate or apolitical leaders' lives at risk. Also their diplomats. I know, because I studied in New Delhi '82-84 and witnessed the rise of Bhindranwale's terror squads. Canada's position on khalistan is based on willed ignorance of the facts. Do they not remember the Air India bombing, the worst terrorist attack in Canadian history? This alliance between Trudeau and Khalistanis is perhaps the worst political stand that any Canadian leader has taken. Trudeau's catering to criminal vote banks is so murky, it will possibly lead to a blowback. When you are in bet with poisonous snakes, you are likely to get bitten.
I really dont agree with the statement that democracies have mechanism to deal with ter***ist threat to its sovereignity and hence killing of osama by US is somehow different from "alleged" killing of nijjar by india. It ultimately depends on whether that nation cooperates(doesnt matter if its a democracy or not). In india's case, canada didnt and india has the right to "defend itself" in such a situation.
Evidence of Credible Allegations......LOL😂
Whatever it means!
English truly is a Funny Language
Khalistan is supposedly to restore Maharaja Ranjit Singh’s Sikh empire. However you will never hear a peep from these lowlifes about restoring Lahore as its erstwhile capital.
A serious human civilization problem is a Tamasha for corneigis, reveals their laughable character, ...
This entire conversation is ridiculous. Canada has very little to offer to India as compared to what India has to offer to Canada, both in terms of trade and geopolitics/strategic security. India has a fairly independent foreign policy and believes in realpolitik, just like the US does. This whole song and dance about liberal democracy and values is just a smoke screen to say you are not a vassal of the US like it’s lil cousin Canada. These countries behave liberally when it suits them and illiberally when it doesn’t - everyone remembers Iraq, Afghanistan and other useless wars. Nations don’t have friends they have interests and India is rightfully pursuing its. No wonder ur videos/podcasts rarely get more than 2k -5k views. Academic discussions are helpful when they are nuanced and balanced!
Ninder who swipes left on tinder
Disappointing and one-sided analysis, not at all objective.... I think one can construct a scenario that led Justinder, the unpopular Premier of Canada,to 'blow up this 'Nijjar affair' to his political advantage.
He gets a bit of the 'Five Eyes' Spy Network's transcript in which there is an exchange between an Indian Diplomat in Canada and the External Affairs Ministry in New Delhi. Exchange may have been about Nijjar's killing. The Indian Diplomat may have mentioned the death of Nijjar and discussed its implication for the Khalistani Movement in Canada. The American authorities have said that they had provided this 'context' to Canada. Using this equivocal and ambiguous 'context' to distract his voters from the serious economic and social problems faced by his country, Justinder Trudeau wants the Indian government to 'fill in the gaps'.
BOTH CANADA AND USA WANT INDIA TO 'CO-OPERATE' WITH THE 'INVESTIGATION'. THEY ARE USING THE TERM 'CO-OPERATE' TO MEAN 'CONFESS'!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Canada has not yet arrested anyone for the murder of Nijjar. The Americans have reported that the two killers appear to be Sikhs also!!
India should open up on its suspicion that many of the 61 Canadian Diplomats in India were spies, helping the USA and other allies with information on the Indian acquisitions of military hardware from Russia. There were also, perhaps, helping the Khalistanis and their operatives in India.
Falsehoods and misinformation.
Sanjay it’s not a minority government at all. Please don’t lie in public