2022 Samsung Neo QLED QN90B Compared To LG C2 Evo EX OLED

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  • @tomwilsonn
    @tomwilsonn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    in Australia right now, the C2 77 costs 65-75% more than the QN90B at 75/77 size. Makes the C2 hard to justify at the big sizes. At 65" the C2 is ~20% more expensive which is more reasonable.

  • @vulcan4d
    @vulcan4d ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I got the 42 QN90B and the HDR is insane. I think I rather see details and highlights vs enjoying black screen parts lol, though I have to admit the blacks are impressive on the PQ90B. Best parts, no burn in risk. I run it at 25 brightness which is just a fraction of what it can do and there I expect it to last ages.

  • @highdefnews
    @highdefnews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Fantastic review. You really have this down to a science. With the exception of brightness, I’m surprised how similar they look, particularly the color science. I remember when LG & Samsung were light years apart in that regard.

  • @TechWithKG
    @TechWithKG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Good job! Absolutely crushed it with this video! I am with you on the HDR movies comment. As for the 90B color issue in game mode yeah its so weird because at times in HDR games it can look fine on some games almost the same as the C2 and in other games the colors just don't look as good as the C2 it definitely seems like green, yellow, and orange has been the most noticeable in that sense from my experience. I hope theres a fix because yeah it's more than capable of delivering these colors.
    Overall C2 and QN90B comparison is really close now I personally really liked the QN90A last year in a lot of content and this is a huge improvement over that, C2 is a lesser improvement over the C1 than the 90B over the A is but still it is an improvement with some positive changes that you can notice a bit. Really its a tougher buying choice than ever for people I expect this question to pop up so much this year lol.

    • @mugmasher4309
      @mugmasher4309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you guys think that Samsung can address this color issue with a future update since it seems the TV is more than capable of producing the accurate colors? Do you think the 85B edges out the 90B? I’m still leaning towards the 90B for some reason.

    • @TechWithKG
      @TechWithKG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mugmasher4309 I don't see why not unless there is some technical restriction inside of game mode that is holding them back. The color issue is much more noticeable when its side by side because at times color seems fine depends on the game I gotta say it's definitely weird I hope it does get fixed.

    • @mugmasher4309
      @mugmasher4309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TechWithKG If you had the choice between the 90B and 85B which one would do it for you with gaming being the emphasis?

    • @Bradli
      @Bradli 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe this game mode color is something they can fix with an update

    • @tears2040
      @tears2040 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bradli They could fix, but unless it’s widely address I highly doubt it will be. Almost positive they will not do anything.

  • @ryanbaker7404
    @ryanbaker7404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm loving these comparison videos, Cecil. 2022 is a great year to be an AV enthusiast - we have peak WRGB OLED, we have QD OLED, and we have one of the best LED LCD panels in the QN90B!

    • @ryanbaker7404
      @ryanbaker7404 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theholypopechodeii4367 Audio Visual

  • @flow685
    @flow685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Every time i see the QN90B it just pops out of the screen. Great review Classy! I love my OLED but definitely missing that brightness.

  • @Bradli
    @Bradli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great edit, it really shows how close they are in color with the C2 being warmer. I prefer the 90B except in gaming, as you showed. You should show 1 brief clip, though, of side by side, if possible to show the brightness difference, show how dim the OLED is in comparison so we'd have a better idea. As OLEDs get brighter we still need to see how they compare in brightness.👍🏻👍🏻

    • @ClassyTechCalibrations
      @ClassyTechCalibrations  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      On the previous stream there was plenty of that, but it's also misrepresentative because it makes the OLED look darker than it actually is.

    • @Bradli
      @Bradli 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ClassyTechCalibrations but it is darker... Way darker. You're talking 3000nits vs 800 nits and that's not even full screen brightness. What was full screen brightness on the 90B?

    • @ClassyTechCalibrations
      @ClassyTechCalibrations  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Bradli it's not 3000 nits, that's a brief moment in dynamic mode. It's about 1700-1800 in movie mode, and it's brighter in highlights but the camera if exposed for the Samsung will make the LG look darker than it actually is.

    • @galinn76
      @galinn76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The very fact that the review is in the dark, that is, creating an ideal environment for OLED is very indicative of how things are with the brightness. If there is lighting, especially daylight, on the screen of the C2 you will see more the reflection of the furniture in the room and the operator, instead of the picture it should emit.

    • @Bradli
      @Bradli 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@galinn76 so, you're saying he purposely trying to skew the review in favor of the OLED?

  • @1969plato
    @1969plato ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I've been stuck trying to choose between these for my PS5 for months, thanks for a great comparison!

    • @Ericthecrazy
      @Ericthecrazy ปีที่แล้ว

      I buy the qn90b there is 3 week ago i really love it

  • @cun7us
    @cun7us 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2:42 what's going on with that character's scarf? It's green on the Samsung and grey on the LG, but they're both coming from the same source? How is this possible.

  • @St4rTr3v1Ut10n
    @St4rTr3v1Ut10n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think what's gonna sell me on the QN90B is the Q Symphony. I experienced it in the store and it really made the difference. And I could just take a few steps to my left and compare it to a C2, and it's basically impossible to tell the difference. Can you tell an OLED from mini LED on a side-by-side comparison using footage to showcase the differences? Yes. But is that what you'll _really_ be looking at? Starfields and blobs? It's also a shame that LG doesn't have a similar technology to pair their TVs and soundbars.

    • @joseluislopes3956
      @joseluislopes3956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Comparing an OLED to a miniLED on a bright store floor isn't really far though. A bright room makes high contrast values (like an OLED with infinite contrast ratio) imperceptible and also helps hiding bloom from miniLEDs.
      The QN90B is an amazing TV, but if you put both of them side by side on dark room (like a normal living room at night) the difference is visible
      But it all depends on the usage habits of each person

    • @dariomladenovski7047
      @dariomladenovski7047 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joseluislopes3956 wrong, Linus compared the LG CX to the QN85A MiniLed in a dark room and the conclusion was that no one would be able to tell which TV was the OLED in a dark room, and that panel is ADS it's not even VA

    • @vedantdesai1
      @vedantdesai1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I made the mistake of getting an OLED before testing out the QN90B. I couldn’t stand the over saturation, poor viewing angles, motion blur, and blooming that the QLED had. Returned it in an hour and got the C2 again

  • @korndog81
    @korndog81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At 2:42 the dudes scarf is completely different color between the two. Pretty wild.

  • @Braconara1981
    @Braconara1981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like Ai picture with hdr content on the C1, it really does help shadow detail and boost pop without loosing color volume, as for sdr it favors contrast and darkens dark areas which is a no go for me.

  • @tears2040
    @tears2040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Both tvs looks great, you can see the Samsung in certain areas brighter and the LG in other areas with better contrast.
    Samsung has done a very impressive job with a non Oled tv, not sure how they achieved this….
    Ultimately though the C2 is an Oled and certainly has that 3d /Depth to the image that I haven’t seen replicated in any non Oled technology.
    With that said I would buy the TV I could find cheaper as they both look spectacular!
    🔥
    *Great video and I agree with how they were shot individually and presented like this for true representation

    • @dariomladenovski6481
      @dariomladenovski6481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Samsung is very close to an OLED like 90% there so it makes no sense to me for anyone to buy an OLED anymore when you get the best of both worlds with Samsung now, super bright TV, deep blacks and no burn in risk on top

  • @EJDOlf
    @EJDOlf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very good video, thanks a lot! It really shows that C2 is quite capable even in some bright scenes, contrary to what i saw in other comparison videos. Now i am even more confused 😄 You mentioned that oleds often look blue on videos. I have noticed that as well. Is it the same in real life or is it something to do with filming? I am generally a fan of warmer colors and whites, and this blueness is putting me off from pulling a plug and buying a large oled tv this year.

    • @redcrimson1028
      @redcrimson1028 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's only on camera not in person. Even on my phone the oled looks blue.

  • @stefansadakov9659
    @stefansadakov9659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the comparison!

  • @Perception_
    @Perception_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Personally I just feel OLED isn't practical for most people, and my only concern is that it's going to be annoying if you aren't going to use it in a room with no windows.
    It makes the choice very easy to me, which means the QN90B is the one I'll be going for.

  • @lionroaring7021
    @lionroaring7021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. Torn between the qn90b and c2. Told the former was a blooming exhibition. I don't game and the c2 is more. Qn90b is right for me, I think....

  • @budsbunny5610
    @budsbunny5610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LG G2 OR SAMSUNG S95B That's the most important question?

  • @TheGodfather1022
    @TheGodfather1022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Impressive comparison as always Classy.

    • @michaeldavis6550
      @michaeldavis6550 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @TheGodfather1022
      @TheGodfather1022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaeldavis6550 I saw it.

    • @michaeldavis6550
      @michaeldavis6550 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheGodfather1022 Good Glad you did & hope your doing well.

    • @TheGodfather1022
      @TheGodfather1022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaeldavis6550 doing great, so what TV do you have then?

    • @michaeldavis6550
      @michaeldavis6550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheGodfather1022 65 X95J & im very much in love with it. Like everything I watch has a static image in the corner you can't do anything about & until no burn in risk I couldn't have a Oled & wouldn't without a heat sink anyways. I know I would be amazed owning the A90J for sure. I'm just very happy with my experience with the X95J & truly Thankful & feal blessed. Oled maybe one day lol. I'm also itching very bad for the X95K. Like my X95J so much I bought a 65 X90J for the family room & don't like it.

  • @michaelfoster3441
    @michaelfoster3441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Both are really good tvs I prefer my oled for the space movies, and gaming on oleds is awesome, I will take contrast over brightness every time that's just me .

  • @sebastiaanmartens9280
    @sebastiaanmartens9280 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice, I'm trying to get one or the other for games.
    The left screen looked to have a bit more motion blur? Or is that a false perception?

  • @chinogambino9375
    @chinogambino9375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its weird now how TV reviews are basically damned if they do due to firmware updates. These TVs could be way better just off firmware tweaks and we don't know if let alone when they could drop an update. I doubt the development time would be expensive, it'd be great if consumers held the makers to account for bugs and downgrades.

  • @phatmhat9174
    @phatmhat9174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm using the C2 right now, as a monitor.
    Downsides:
    1) Dimming. If there is too much white on the screen, it dims. It's annoying. And you can't turn it off, even from the service menu.
    2) Doesn't get as bright. I watched another youtuber do a side by side of these two tvs, with Elden Ring, showing the tree. It pops way brighter on the Samsung than on the C2. And it gets just as dark, to the eye, as the C2.
    So, I got a 43in 90b I'll try out and then decide. Go BestBuy.

    • @phatmhat9174
      @phatmhat9174 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha! So I looked at more of your videos, like the one on C2 as monitor, and your "set your desktop to SDR" suggestion and settings did the job. Thanks for the tips you give.

    • @ultimategohan1551
      @ultimategohan1551 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which to do you prefer? Currently debating on keeping my c2 42" for my series x or getting a qn90b 43" while i can still return the c2

  • @mrk.8899
    @mrk.8899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    CTC, Can you do a TV settings video? Movies, gaming, etc. and recently, since there have probably been some updates since this video. Also, with the DSE, from my understanding, it is only is issue for some panels? How does it work exactly?

  • @joeywood4226
    @joeywood4226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you recommend the newest qn95b over the 90b thanks for the content awesome review

  • @sakracliche
    @sakracliche 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:20 The elevated blacks, they're very dark, but noticeable. If some of you are alarmed by this, it's easibly fixable - setting the black level from 50 to 45 does the job. :)

  • @FunFunFun8888
    @FunFunFun8888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is the input lag difference? Looking to buy 50" 144Hz QN90B but read Samsung is going to launch full range of QD OLED TVs in few months time and I am sure they will have 144Hz on all sizes. Should I wait until next year or buy black Friday special now? I will be using it for gaming and PC monitor from a distance for work.

  • @opo-jal
    @opo-jal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great review man! 🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @Dylan-et2yz
    @Dylan-et2yz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thank you for all the effort you out into showing them as accurately as possible.
    At 12:00 you show a clip of buffalo in a field. The Samsung is notably more yellow. Does that show up in person and which is more accurate?

  • @ydoic1111
    @ydoic1111 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a q80b got at qn90b it's a sick ass tv ...cyberpunk looks dreamy...got it fir half price couldn't afford the oled LG...plus the game streaming apps on the TV also are a strong feature...bough it strictly for ps5 has all the tech needed 120 hrz allm vrr it's an impressive unit

  • @majorkursk780
    @majorkursk780 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have seen several reviewers say that the QN90B had noticeable blooming in dark room viewing...what did you experience during your time with it?

    • @zxbc1
      @zxbc1 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you go to 15:02, the blooming already looks pretty obvious there, and the subsequent one with the wheel looks even more pronounced.
      Even still, I am still considering the Samsung over the LG as I am planning to use it as a TV monitor, and the risk of burn-in is still a lingering thing as most of the time the PC will have windows/game UI elements that will degrade those pixels really fast. I think the blooming is tolerable in the vast majority of scenes and considering how the LG C2 is currently priced quite a bit more expensive than the Samsung, it's just not worth it.

    • @majorkursk780
      @majorkursk780 ปีที่แล้ว

      @zxbc In December I took advantage of a one day sale at Best Buy and grabbed a 65 inch QN95B for $1799. This is my first 4k tv and the color and brightness is really something. The only slight blooming I have seen is during white letter captioning, which really is not a bug deal.
      Gaming is really impressive also as the tv has all the gaming features one needs for consoles, plus 144hz for PC gamers.
      The HDR displayed is impressive, though having DV would be a nice feature, it also is not a deal breaker to me.
      The screen actually is oddly reflective when off, having ambient light shining on it, but when the tv is on, there aren't any issues with glare.
      I suggest waiting a month or so, as when the new 2023 sets come out, prices should be dropping on the 2022 models so you can save some serious money like I did.

  • @ahmedbasel870
    @ahmedbasel870 ปีที่แล้ว

    LG OLED A2 55 INCH vs SAMSUNG QN90C 50 INCH vs SAMSUNG Q70C 65 INCH
    what do u suggest
    all the same price for me

  • @techsamurai11
    @techsamurai11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you say the QN90B is uncomfortably bright?

  • @drugemp1
    @drugemp1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I see tons of blooming on the QN90B. The ferris wheel scene is a good example.

    • @ThePipojp
      @ThePipojp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Camera makes blooming seem worse

    • @tyler6971
      @tyler6971 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThePipojp No, it doesn't. The C2 is superior.

  • @BangSkeeet
    @BangSkeeet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey classy, did you end up with the window nits with D65 calibration somewhere? I know it peaks at 1800 nits. but can you post what each sustained window is for the QN90B?

  • @galinn76
    @galinn76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The image from the two TVs looks very similar. But considering that the QN90B is brighter and there is no danger of burning and printing static objects and logos, I would choose it.

    • @cun7us
      @cun7us 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The risk of burn-in on LG OLEDs is virtually nonexistent now, especially on the new EX panels. People use them as PC monitors which has an even higher risk, but even they haven't experienced any burn-in.

    • @galinn76
      @galinn76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cun7us It always exists and will never be completely eliminated if organic materials are used. My C1 printed the TV logo at the top of the screen in just 4 months. Oh, I don't even remember when I spent more time on this channel. The claim that it doesn't burn is just marketing. Besides, after the first month I got a dead pixel, now it's 6.

    • @soheilnassri2412
      @soheilnassri2412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cun7us my C8 is festival of logos 😁

    • @bloomerb4162
      @bloomerb4162 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@galinn76 which tv logo? Were you in sdr, if so where was your oled light at?

    • @sundarchip
      @sundarchip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cun7us How long have the OLED TVs with EX panels been out? It's far too early to draw a conclusion.

  • @Zoranurai13
    @Zoranurai13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tbh i’d really hold out for the x95k and a95k until buying any high end tv.

    • @ProjectGamerYT
      @ProjectGamerYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The minimum size of the X95K is 77", that's too big for most people

  • @tonead3748
    @tonead3748 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What camera r u using to shoot these tvs it looks great?

  • @ProjectGamerYT
    @ProjectGamerYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you find the reds look a bit orange like on the QN90B?

  • @pinkusagar
    @pinkusagar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should I get a QN90B or discounted LG G1. My room doesnt get very bright during the day. What will you suggest ?

  • @2thousand639
    @2thousand639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a QN95B planned for the year?

  • @TiagoFerreira7
    @TiagoFerreira7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which one is better as a productivity monitor? Samsung or LG?

  • @barryjones2366
    @barryjones2366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you still have the QN90B? Or could you get it again like you did for the S95B because of the massive firmware changes for it? would love to see a comparison after the new filmmaker update with an oled both in accurate modes. Then the average picture level should be the same in all but the brightest scenes and the main difference will be the highlights and black levels, maybe colours too. It would be so much closer than this comparison. So then we can really see the difference in black levels when they are both trying to achieve the same level of brightness for darker areas. This comparison mostly makes everything misleading when the APL isn't the same, if you know what I mean....?

  • @Utubeisazzho
    @Utubeisazzho ปีที่แล้ว

    Got qn90b 75 with ps5 and current 1080 upscale update streaming looks great. I’m in room with 10’ windows constant sun. Electric blinds but can’t escape the light

  • @YavNe
    @YavNe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, make a comparison between the QN90B and the QN95B pls!

  • @thom4466
    @thom4466 ปีที่แล้ว

    A service tech is coming over next week to install a new panel and mother board in my QN90B. I can’t stand the rainbows and awful distortions of light on the screen. You can see this if a window isn’t covered by a blackout curtain. You can see it very easily even when the TV is off! Otherwise, I think it has a great picture. I hope they put a 2023 panel in it.

  • @curtis19921
    @curtis19921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think they will fix the gaming colours with an update at all?

  • @HelveticaBold1
    @HelveticaBold1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video classy! Is that promo footage for Grand Turismo 7 in HDR? I’ll have to look for that demo. Or is that B roll from the game intro?

  • @YavNe
    @YavNe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg, look at colors at Native on the QN90B! When set at Native colors must be even better than ADS! ;D

  • @nihren2406
    @nihren2406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So if Game Mode is causing the problem, can you just turn that off and take the hit on response times for better HDR? Are the response times/input lag even a noticeable problem outside of game mode?

    • @Nnnnnnnnnt
      @Nnnnnnnnnt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Curious about this as well

    • @joanhernandezciriza3797
      @joanhernandezciriza3797 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      response times is a big problem even in game mode 144hz. im in the middle of returning my q90b cause of ghosting and dark smearing. Its a heart breaker cause the tv is complety perfcet otherwise. Now im left without and option cause oled is too dull.

    • @nihren2406
      @nihren2406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joanhernandezciriza3797 I've since bought the 43in model to try for myself and I've loved it. SDR content has a habit of not looking quite right, especially in near-black areas, but if I'm viewing HDR content it's damn near perfect. And so far no matter what game I've played I haven't noticed any delay in my inputs.

    • @joanhernandezciriza3797
      @joanhernandezciriza3797 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nihren2406 no thats input lag and that is fine. Im talking about response time. It is heart breacking when you notice

  • @short5stick
    @short5stick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what size is this 43 inch or 50.I was told the 43 has a different panel than the 50. 50 is better.

  • @BertVisser-es5ev
    @BertVisser-es5ev ปีที่แล้ว

    You should also make the comparison both set to max brightness. Thats the power of the qn90b. But these day oled is the way to go. My 77G3 is so bright. Its crazy, comming from a C8.

  • @sundarchip
    @sundarchip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I guess Game Mode will always be a problem for LCD TVs because they need to do so much more processing in order to get close to OLED level picture quality.

    • @KrisDee1981
      @KrisDee1981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sony LCDs have great PQ in game mode. I have Xh95, and local dimming behaves the same. Downside is higher input lag of around 19ms @4k60hz.

    • @libertalian_8415
      @libertalian_8415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KrisDee1981 On my 55 X95H blooming is terrible in game mode- I tried every local dimming option but it was worthless.

    • @KrisDee1981
      @KrisDee1981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@libertalian_8415 it's exactly the same outside game mode

    • @libertalian_8415
      @libertalian_8415 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KrisDee1981 you are right, maybe a little better but terrible anyway. Some say that lowering black level on 35-40 would help, I haven't tried it yet.

  • @leifaregis2554
    @leifaregis2554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im thinking to buy this tv qn90b, as a replacement on my CX , but samsung quality is holding me back, my CX is perfect but is only 55 i need atleast 65, thinking to get x90k also but if im going to replace my CX atleast better than CX which excellent in gaming picture quality i just need an upgrade, is it worth it to replace cx to 90b ?

  • @pengko0
    @pengko0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have the qn90b 65in and used it for half a week now. It looks really good in 4k content. At first i couldnt really see much blooming but now i see it but most of the time this tv does a great job. There is also something that is a real deal breaker for me... in non 4k non hdr content like netflix regular hd i see a lot of noise and artifacts especially in dark screens. Shows like queen of the south that has a lot of noise looks 10x worse on this tv compared to my 2018 q6fn qled. In dark scenes i see blockiness all over. The q90b also seems to over sharpen the picture even if i set the sharpness slider to zero. I dont know if there is something wrong with my panel but it doesnt seem right. Applying noise reduction seems to help a little but its still pretty ugly in comparison. (Note that my 2018 tv doesnt have noise reduction turned on). It is enough so that im considering returning it to best buy. Any of you guys getting this issue?

    • @hard8gamingandagslive559
      @hard8gamingandagslive559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's nothing wrong with your panel

    • @pengko0
      @pengko0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hard8gamingandagslive559 whats wrong then? Do share thanks.

    • @hard8gamingandagslive559
      @hard8gamingandagslive559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pengko0 LCD sucks get a OLED🤣🤣.....but seriously that's tend to happen with low quality content

    • @pengko0
      @pengko0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hard8gamingandagslive559 nah. i think its the first firmware and their are bugs that needs to be worked out. Guess i am the first adopter beta tester. Hope it will be fixed soon.

    • @lindsaymichael1
      @lindsaymichael1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      blooming is a problem, can’t say anything to classy though, he will call you a liar

  • @hard8gamingandagslive559
    @hard8gamingandagslive559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These comparisons are pointless when the camera is not showing the viewer an actual representation of the picture. Best thing to do is load up a USB stick with your preferred demos and go to Best Buy yourself and test the TV's in person

  • @karthikr177
    @karthikr177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am really surprised at so many OLED enthusiasts. Do you guys get so much options to control the light in your living room. I got a bright living room even after using the blinds and I dont want to use the blinds all the time. Its QLED all the way for me until one fine day the QD-OLED can safely touch 1500 nits and above all the time. Which by the way may take till 2024 at the least.

  • @ThatGuy-Noob_69
    @ThatGuy-Noob_69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you know if they fixed the gaming color saturation issue with an update since this video?

    • @kristijanEX
      @kristijanEX ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone update pls.

  • @fieldtrailer
    @fieldtrailer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The new OLEDs still have a blue tint. And still only shine on pitch black viewing. That's why all these side by sides are in dark rooms and include a lot of dark scenes. For everyday viewing, the qled is great. For a home theater or room that is dark, OLEDs are great.

    • @ClassyTechCalibrations
      @ClassyTechCalibrations  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All lights were on for both TVs when shooting them. And both TVs can be calibrated to perfect white.

  • @asaneouji15
    @asaneouji15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t see this issue I’ve been playing so many games in HDR. I do have an oled to compare too and the QN90B is super vibrant and colorful. It is based on the game though as Native actually looks great in the games where Auto isn’t saturated enough. Most games Auto is saturated enough though!

  • @svenverbruci2543
    @svenverbruci2543 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job on this, although I wish you'd shown a little more dark scenes with little light which mostly seems to stress FALD (mini)LED TV's regarding blooming. Somehow no one ever does that for comparison.

    • @ClassyTechCalibrations
      @ClassyTechCalibrations  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The spear and munsil demo has a bunch of dark scenes.

    • @svenverbruci2543
      @svenverbruci2543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ClassyTechCalibrations Hopefully you'll come back to us with more comparisons. Would be really nice to see those dark scenes side by side. While I love my Sony 75X900F for most scenes and gaming, it's no match for my (now almost prehistoric) LG 65B6 in low contrast dark scenes where the Sony somehow thinks the backlight needs to be at full blast for even a dim light source. There is just no contrast left in such scenes which is quite contrary to what HDR is supposed to be. Thanks again for all your efforts. Keep it up.

    • @coxb29
      @coxb29 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ClassyTechCalibrations Forget about gaming which is the better tv for the casual use of streaming Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Hulu, and watching cable channels day to day?

    • @VineetReddyVenu
      @VineetReddyVenu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ClassyTechCalibrations I went out and tested the QN95B, QN90A, Z9J, A80J, C2. QN95B had worse blooming than QN90A but also retained better Shadow details than even C2 not to the level of A80J or Z9J. But had shadow details little bit visible. In the Infinity War opening scene the outline of the space ship below and stars besides it were visible but had visible blooming around them. In QN90A the outline was hardly visible and stars were completely lost but had deep black. And yes back-light settings were at high on both. Z9J blooming was bit more but shadow details were not lost at all. And the stars were much brighter as well. I don't know what to think of QN95B it is doing somethings right like providing more near-black shadow details(no where near SONY level but still far better than what they had last year). But then the Black levels are getting lifted a bit.

    • @barryjones2366
      @barryjones2366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VineetReddyVenu That sounds exactly right, well said! If you make it better in one area you make it worse in another....hard to get the right balance. And depends on what you prefer for your needs, no TV is perfect. Sounds like the QN90B will be perfect for my needs, I prefer the brighter small highlights of this years model compared to the really aggressive over dimming of last years all with only a little more blooming, seems you get so much more in return. Hopefully next year they can improve and reduce the blooming even more while retaining the bright highlights and shadow detail, might wait for the QN90C yet. The shape adaptive light control could be refined further yet.

  • @Tomek_Zyla
    @Tomek_Zyla ปีที่แล้ว

    Is color gamut native in LG C2 wrong?

  • @kinocchio
    @kinocchio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t decide between these 2 TVs. Any suggestions?

  • @TheDude-xp4vb
    @TheDude-xp4vb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which one looks realistic?

  • @kickin123
    @kickin123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gaming/media performance is relatively close, but if one was looking for desktop monitor replacement would the Q90B be the better option? Better uniformity? Better brightness? No burn in risk?

    • @paulcox2447
      @paulcox2447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes imo. 144hz support, no burn in. Uniformity, probably not, definitely brighter.
      Still no burn in risk makes it worth it to me over an oled

  • @Harvz78
    @Harvz78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Which one is better to use as a computer monitor?

    • @JJ-nl8vc
      @JJ-nl8vc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this is what i need to see man. A PC gaming monitor face off between the two. Can't find it anywhere.

    • @PeterBParker2398
      @PeterBParker2398 ปีที่แล้ว

      The QN90b looks washed out, the C2 has a risk of burn in.
      Depends on what you’re looking for and willing to put up with.
      Do you mostly play games at night or in a dark room? Then the OLED is the clear option.

  • @TheAbdID
    @TheAbdID 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you suggest playing with gamma set to - 3?

  • @fouadhamoud8422
    @fouadhamoud8422 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    LG G2 VS QN90B GAMING AND MOVIES WHICH IS THE BEST

  • @TheLeonardo90
    @TheLeonardo90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LG Oled has the best image of all brands for both games and movies and series

    • @RockMathis
      @RockMathis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sony has better picture quality than LG...I owned LG C1 and A80J...depending on how good your eyesight is you can see much more detail on Sony

    • @superbn0va
      @superbn0va 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol both Sony and LG can’t compare to Panasonic, especially LG can’t. But when you can’t see the difference your good with alLG as it’s the lot cheaper

    • @tyler6971
      @tyler6971 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@superbn0va What are you talking about? LG is the king of displays and always will be.

    • @tyler6971
      @tyler6971 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RockMathis No, it doesn't.

    • @superbn0va
      @superbn0va ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyler6971 not only the display defines PQ. Panasonic customs their high end display’s for higher peak brightness and more accurate colors ootb. Also better black shadow details.

  • @thelmaviaduct
    @thelmaviaduct 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    QN90B £699 or C2 £949
    Which one for PC Flight Sims in a dark room???

  • @hosseinalmet
    @hosseinalmet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, we can very well say that OLED is the master of darkness and mini-led is the master of light.

  • @UniqueJ
    @UniqueJ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the qn90n and I almost went with that one (especially since it has ATSC 3.0 tuner unlike the c2😏) but I just can't unsee the corner and edge fade outs non OLED TV'S have. It came down to minor things but at the end I'm getting the c2 77 over the qn90n 85.🤔🤷

  • @YavNe
    @YavNe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does local dimming performance being reduced have to do with lower brightness? I mean higher local dimming = lower brightness, isn't it???

  • @macgyvermac2344
    @macgyvermac2344 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent stuff man

  • @OrazCostanzo
    @OrazCostanzo ปีที่แล้ว

    So why would you get the C2? literally non difference in PQ and you dont get any image retention or risk of burn in with the QN90B not to mention much cheaper

  • @kevingood2565
    @kevingood2565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:55 I don't see oled's "better contrast" ie.: on left side

  • @brentwaid4397
    @brentwaid4397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does lowering the input lag on the 90b bring back any of the picture processing/color saturation in hdr or is it the same throughout?

    • @ClassyTechCalibrations
      @ClassyTechCalibrations  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, all it does is adjust game motion plus setting.

    • @asaneouji15
      @asaneouji15 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just adjust the “color” setting to be higher and it’ll be more saturated. In native it’s a bit great too, but I managed to get a really good saturation for my games using that setting.

  • @muhammadmutashimbillah3960
    @muhammadmutashimbillah3960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are this two Tv is calibrated?

  • @kristijanEX
    @kristijanEX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:18 the difference between QLED and OLED blacks.

  • @debjeetbarman788
    @debjeetbarman788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just want to know as most of the download moveis are in 1080 blu ray
    Will it show the same

  • @phillydavison
    @phillydavison 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gamma 0, -1, -2 or -3 on the Samsung?

  • @hindleymanb6626
    @hindleymanb6626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is the bike blue on the left image and the right it's red at 4.14

    • @halo-halo9244
      @halo-halo9244 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow good eye, didn't catch that, though I've seen another QLED vs OLED comparison with the same issue but it was a robot, one looks blue and the other orange (couldn't remember what youtube channel I saw if from).

  • @TheFoxygrandpa69
    @TheFoxygrandpa69 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta go lcd. The risk of burning on oled is just not worth the miniscule difference. Plus oled dims over time unlike lcd. For what we pay for these things, I want it to be just as bright as day I bought it years into the future.

  • @sj460162
    @sj460162 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im surprised watching this again how bright the c2 is compared to the qled...is oled on a par with qled brightness now?

    • @tac6044
      @tac6044 ปีที่แล้ว

      No dude, not even close. The QLED is over twice as bright. You are seeing your screen, not these two screens.

  • @antisystemicparadise1202
    @antisystemicparadise1202 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oleds tend to oversaturate everything and make the scenes look like they're something more than they are in reality. Just so you know and no matter how annoying the slight blooming might be in some cases, the LCD tvs will always be more accurate in general.

    • @ClassyTechCalibrations
      @ClassyTechCalibrations  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is entirely false, no idea where you got this from.

    • @antisystemicparadise1202
      @antisystemicparadise1202 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ClassyTechCalibrations i just like tvs in general so every oled I've tested showed me exactly what I'm saying here, my opinion though. I had the c1 and i sold it to get the QN90B because blacks looked way more black than what actually black looks like in real life, and secondly during the day i had to shut down every window in my house in oredr to enjoy a game or a movie. Long story short, i believe that lcd TVs look more natural than oleds because oleds are too perfect if you can understand my point of view, and scenes in general on oleds look more than they should.

    • @ClassyTechCalibrations
      @ClassyTechCalibrations  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@antisystemicparadise1202 that might be your preference but that's not accurate.
      It depends on the settings and accuracy of the display. A C1 uncalibrated will crush shadow detail (as will Samsung LCDs).
      You need a reference image to know what is right or wrong.

    • @antisystemicparadise1202
      @antisystemicparadise1202 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ClassyTechCalibrations I will not disagree because I'm not a professional calibrator like you i presume but yes i believe what you say here is the case, but still when i set the QN90B to the same settings i had on the c1 the difference to me seemed very noticeable, and yes i will not speak about the black levels and all that as the oled will clearly be the winner here always but the overall picture to me seems more balanced now that i finally fixed the QN90B based on your recommendations of course.

    • @SamEckett-di6vz
      @SamEckett-di6vz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Qleds make everything look over saturated not oled

  • @MarcoL4
    @MarcoL4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LG C2 IMPRESSIVE

  • @techandy1747
    @techandy1747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dolby Vision vs HDR 10+ which one is better?

    • @justcause0821
      @justcause0821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dolby vision without a doubt

    • @korndog81
      @korndog81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its about the same... but there's much, much more content for DV.

    • @techandy1747
      @techandy1747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@justcause0821 Samsung panels are brighter than all OLED panels in the world…and Dolby Vision is supposed to make content Pop(brighter highlights and stuff)but HDR 10+ has more pop cos of the brightness from Qled displays…
      From the reviews I’ve seen HDR 10+ is good in Samsung TVs and I hve a well led room so I think Neoqled will do fine for me…

    • @justcause0821
      @justcause0821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@techandy1747 to each their own. And whatever makes you happy is all that matters. I own three samsung qleds and two lg oleds. After owning both, oled to me is just overall looks better to me personally. Also I noticed with the extreme brightness I would get headaches from watching TV more that a few hours. With the oleds I do not have that problem and you cannot beat the infinite contrast of an oled

    • @69memnon69
      @69memnon69 ปีที่แล้ว

      It doesn’t matter when nothing supports HDR10+

  • @RUY2323
    @RUY2323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need some help,
    i’m looking for a high quality HDMI 2.1 certified 5 m in wall rated cable, any suggestions?

  • @raulcabronero5649
    @raulcabronero5649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tje QN90B IN 75 OR 85 ITS VA PANEL??

  • @sbacon92
    @sbacon92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    watching on my LG C1 (evo panel in G1 mode)
    just looks like a color profile difference.

    • @hard8gamingandagslive559
      @hard8gamingandagslive559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even though you can still put the C1 in "G1 mode" it doesn't do anything different cause LG been patched that out unless you've never updated your TV

  • @PeterBParker2398
    @PeterBParker2398 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched this entire video on my 65 inch S95B OLED, and let me tell you, the QN90b oftentimes look washed out in comparison to the C2.
    Brighter isn’t always better especially when the contrast and black levels are not there make up for it.
    I’m personally stuck between these 3 TVs, but so far I am leaning towards the S95b as it attempts to bridge the gap and be the best of both tv technologies, brightness and contrast/black levels.

  • @NexGenTek
    @NexGenTek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow Q90B looks kinda washed excellent comparison though. I feel like Sony has the best looking game mode for LED at least.

    • @3dgelord187
      @3dgelord187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's the camera. QN90B is just too bright for the camera to register the highlights.

    • @NexGenTek
      @NexGenTek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@3dgelord187 Just the overall picture I'm not even talking about the highlights

    • @Jordanfiend361
      @Jordanfiend361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@3dgelord187 exactly why he hates doing video comparison cause it never looks like it does on the camera but people still don’t get it. You’re better of just taking his advice vs what you’re trying to see nitpick any differences.

  • @---GOD---
    @---GOD--- ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to make a suggestion to better help us compare images
    Having them side by side helps, but also show certain scenes with them with one on top/below the other so our eyes don't have to move much.
    And another method would be to combine the right half of one TV and the left half of the other TV for a more closer comparison.
    I don't know how difficult that would be in editing/production but just a thought I had.

  • @bolenns45
    @bolenns45 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Until the Burn in OLED issue is resolved - I have had 2 OLED LG panels replaced that being said, I'll be moving to QN90B it seems to be a good alterative. When you call LG and ask them if the Burn in issue can be fixed the just come back with Jibber Jabber. Have you as a youtuber talked with anyone from LG about this persistent problem ?.

    • @Carlos-sn1rk
      @Carlos-sn1rk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How long did the tv last you?
      How many hours a day do you use it?

    • @bolenns45
      @bolenns45 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Carlos-sn1rk Hello Carlos I was an early adopter 5 years ago - LG OLED Panel #1 lasted 5475 hours before LG replaced it the Second Panel lasted about the same . I now have a QN90B and it too have been a Mess with Software updates . I did pick up a LG C1 55 in for 850.00 on prime day it seems to have a much better panel .

    • @Carlos-sn1rk
      @Carlos-sn1rk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bolenns45 So you recommend the extended warranty? I’m considering the LG C2 77 inch. I currently have a Samsung

    • @bolenns45
      @bolenns45 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Carlos-sn1rk Absolutely, that would be money well spent 👍👍

  • @mass-1128
    @mass-1128 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has the new firmware update fixed some of the picture accuracy issues on the QN90B?

    • @barryjones2366
      @barryjones2366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure, trying to find out as well.

    • @mass-1128
      @mass-1128 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barryjones2366 Eager to know, as I noticed a new firmware update on Samsung's website.

  • @georgipetrov1658
    @georgipetrov1658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    samsung is better for the details in the dark and is the winner

  • @Z1OMBAL
    @Z1OMBAL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait for Sony

  • @hugooliveira7167
    @hugooliveira7167 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does local dimming work with VRR?

  • @dangy785
    @dangy785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this isn’t the popular opinion. But the problem is only game mode right? And outside of native color space. If I do non game mode for game it should be good and punchy right? I personally don’t use game mode. I heard the issue is only with its game mode right??

    • @dangy785
      @dangy785 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also that sounds like an issue that a firmware update maybe can fix?

    • @Braconara1981
      @Braconara1981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't hold your breath for the update fix from Samsung, their support is atrocious and their updates are a lottery, might fix one thing and end up with a couple of new issues, there's 0 transparency they never disclose any patch notes. Had both Q90T & Qn90A that i let go cause of these issues

    • @TechCody113
      @TechCody113 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Braconara1981 Yeep, went back to x95j myself LOL has higher input lag but Samsungs problems are pathetic, heck even after whole year QN90A still has broken systems

    • @dangy785
      @dangy785 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Braconara1981 the B does fix a lot of issues the A had. Either way I don’t play in game mode

    • @michaeldavis6550
      @michaeldavis6550 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TechCody113 I've been in love with my X95J. Very happy I chose it over the QN90A.

  • @AmaranthHeart
    @AmaranthHeart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone knows how to activate gsync without being in game mode for PC? I would like to have it without the backlight penalty