Baz on Blades lol, she has put up with me for 24 years, so I hope she doesn’t lose her patience and figure out that she could do better! Just kidding I’m amazing and humble too!
I think that Taurus is making some very good decisions right now. And I hope to see them continue in the positive direction they are currently headed. I am not embarrassed at all to carry any of the Taurus firearms I own. They are finely made. I carry my G2c quite often.
I have had my pt111 g2 for 3 years and I absolutely love that gun it was my first handgun. 1000 rounds no problems at all. Today I just picked up a brand new g2c and I love it even more. Just in my opinion, the g2c trigger is smoother than my pt111 g2 believe it or not. My brand new g2c trigger doesn’t click like this guys. Its really not that big of a deal. When someone is 2ft away from you trying to stick a knife in you I won’t be thinking about the comfort of the trigger, I’ll be thinking about the comfort of how I stopped the threat lol just my opinion.
I've had my PT111 G2, it's basically the G2C, since 2015 and I've ran a little over 3k rounds through it. The only things I've done aside from cleaning was once I had around 1k downrange or a little over I decided to go ahead and get the Lakeline Stainless Rod & Captured Springs upgrade for $30 as I just didn't like relying on a plastic Guide/Spring Rod even though it was perfectly fine. I also added a set of Trigicon Iridium night sites and I've of course bought a decent holster and extra mags. Now that I've got all those rounds downrange the trigger has really came into it's own especially because when I had it down for the 1k round upgrade I polished the internals. The trigger pull now is extremely smooth and around 3.5 to 4lbs cocked and even the restrike is smooth if maybe just a touch stiffer of course. Best way to for me to describe this little work horse is shocking. Never in my life did I think I'd own a firearm that I paid $179 out the door with two mags included that would perform and last as this one has. Again I'm over 3k rounds downrange throwing everything at it and never once have I had a failure other than a steelcase that just refused to fire and not just in my G2C. So if you need something you know you can count on to just put in the work you can do a hell of a lot worse than a G2C. It would appear now I need to go out and get the G3 as I didn't even know it was a thing. I just hope it's as solid as my G2. I'd also say no matter what firearm you decide to get put in the work to not only properly test your tool but to practice to know that if the need arises you're both ready...
I have definitely become a educated shopper today, because of your willingness to share your insight and experience with this pistol, you have done a phenomenal job of explaining everything thank you. Plus not every dollar I make is always easy so I like to try and invest wisely, again much appreciated and awesome vid!! 👍👍
The G3TORO is a awesome weapon. Feels & shoots great. Easy to take down too. And they are priced the way they should be. Trigger safety and manual safety are really great options. 17 & 15 rounds are great options too. Thanks to Taurus for this great weapon.
Bought myself the G3 after watching this video. Great gun, great cost. Shoots extremely nice even though the trigger is still a little dense. Thanks for the vid!
Having a safety on your carry gun can also save your life if the bad guy gets your gun away from you, which does happen. Odds are, they won't know how to operate the safety. This used to be discussed in gun magazines, before the internet.
I disagree. I carry all day long my G3c chambered and without the manual safety on. It's useless for me. In my vision, you have to test and train with your gun to totaly trust it (what I do), and have the skills not to shoot yourself. But that's me. If you train to disable the manual safety to a subconcientious level and quick enough not to die in a defensive situation, it will work.
Three other differences - 1. Loaded Chamber indicator. 2. Longer rail (guess that’s a gimme since it has a longer barrel. 3. Machining of the front of the rail. Otherwise, a good comparison video. About to get my first gun, and had decided on the G2c. But, you’re right, the trigger on the G3 has changed my mind.
The factory sights really aren't that bad. A little low profile but the sight picture is good. Using orange nail polish on the front dot definitely is a huge improvement though. And I really like the Taurus/Ameriglo night sights that you can get on the Taurus website. I have put them on both my G series pistols.
This makes about the fifth positive TH-cam review I've watched. I'm convinced now that the Taurus G3 will be my next purchase. I will check my three local gun shops for the best price and availability.
I'm a "Glock guy" but my compact carry is a g2c. I love the gun. After you fix the trigger with a keep tinkering trigger it's a badass gun. I use it for my conceal carry and my backup weapon. My main carry is a G35 or sometimes a g22. But you absolutely cannot beat the g2c.
No doubt. But the trigger safety design is a documented weak link in the G2c chain. Not all are bad. But it was enough of an issue to warrent a redesign in the G3.
I agree. I have two carry pistols. One is the G2c which is a double stack. The other us a Ruger LC9s Pro which is a single stack. The Ruger is much easier to carry, but not as comfortable to shoot. Not even close. Thanks for watching.
The 17rd magazine with a sleeve that forms one continuous hand grip from the G3 works perfectly in the G2. Also make the grip perfect for a typical large male hand giving excellent control on your gun.
@@youngmonsta6957 no suppressor. No G3 either. G2c that I sold. I still have the PT111, and PT145. The PT140 is way too snappy/harsh for me. May get a G3 or G3c, I certainly recommend them.
i just bought this one. fired bout 100 rounds and I love it. still love my g2 also though.super easy to clean and super easy to handle. great gun for the price
I agree. I actually crawled out of my sick bed today to put a few more rounds through my G3. Still running flawlessly, easy to shoot well and accurate.
Love the crisp video I owe A Taurus G3 I really like the gun I also owe a Springfield 3.8 40.Cal and I went and purchased that gun because I seen a lot of good reviews and I like the way they perform good video good teaching on the safety as well despite any other negative comment keep the good videos coming
Thank you very much. I own a Springfield also. An XD Tctical in .45 ACP. I have had it for more than 10 years and it has never had a failure of any type. It's a good pistol.
Very good comparison review. I have been thinking of getting one or the other. I thought G2c ,with just tinkering trigger, might be the way to go. Now that I see the improvements on the G3, I think the extra cost is worth it.
I like what MoN posted on your presentation I MUST say I feel the same way. with that being Said Baz on Blades I really like the way you simplified the G3 & the G2C Outstanding .. WORK - I know you a Blade Man - but also a Gun Man LOL just wanted to make you smile BladeGuN MaN new nickname GOD Bless 2 all Gun Owner & the 2nd Ad.... the right 2 bear Arms .... let us hear from you again Baz ... I have been using fire Arm for over 30 years - a member/ instructor of the NRA
Thank you very much. I am a simple man and try to keep things simple so everyone can understand. It's so hard to quantify or explain how something feels in the hand. I try my best.
Great Review!!! I have watched a lot of reviews regarding the G3 vs G2C and you are the only one who have pointed out those differences. Taurus have really stepped up their game and have gone on the right direction with so many G2C reviewers raving and recommending the G2C. But with all of them being happy with the performance of G2C, after trying out the G3 most of them if not all of them sees how the G3 is the much improved version. I hope they make a G3C soon because that would just be amazing having a G3 ComPACT version! Kudos to you and continue to make great reviews.
Thanks for watching and I totally agree. The G3c will be so awesome with this trigger/safety design. I Put another 50 rounds of 124grn FMJ through the G3 today. That is 200 rounds of FMJ and 50 rounds of HST so far with no failures. The 30 rounds I shot all went into a 5" group at 21'. Decent shooting for me. Especially in low light. I am still blown away by how good the G3 is.
Point taken....And I totally agree. My G2c has always been 110% reliable. Even if the trigger shoe and safety were terrible. Keep in mind, I was referring to the physical trigger shoe and safety only. Not the trigger pull. That is why the G3 trigger is such a big improvement. The trigger pull is unchanged, but the trigger shoe and safety were totally redesigned.
haha I just traded my m&p 2.0 4.25 inch for BOTH the g2c and a g3. the gun store owner traded me what I paid for it new and thought I was crazy trading in a proven gun for 2 Taurus's. I had almost 7,000 rounds thru the 2.0 but it looked brand new as I take good care of my shit. I said i'll take my chance. way i see it i got 2 BRAND NEW guns. My wife is now the proud owner of the purple g2c by her night stand while i'm at work and i'm the proud owner of a g3 I cant wait to sling some lead with.
G2c trigger catch 9 minutes in the video. Yup it's there. How I fixed mine push on the trigger slightly hitting the trigger bar not directly centered.. Dry firing it a bunch of times with your finger not directly center will remove that catch problem.
It may remove the problem. But I have also seen reports of broken trigger safety blades rendering G2c's inoperable. Mine definitely has the catch. But I can shoot around it.
I have The PT Millennium G2 an the full size pt 809 which Taurus changed to the Th name, which comes loaded with features that a way more expensive gun would have so if you're in the market for a full size ambidextrous pistol check out the th line, Both have been awesome guns. Taurus is really doing a great job making good guns at a great price Rock on Taurus !!!
The pt 111 I have has around 15k rounds through it and the only major hiccup that wasn't due to it being dirty was the guide rod spring breaking at around 5k rounds. Bought a stainless steel guide rod for $25 and has been running like a champ ever since. Enjoyed the video :)
I recently got the G3c an I do say for my first firearm I really like it. My only frame of refrence for handguns is a buddy of mine that had one, an his trigger was super stiff. Like my hand shaking to even set off the striker. And im glad I went with the G3c. I think the only thing I wish was the grip was maybe like an inch or 2 longer. I like the shape I just have slightly bigger hands. but over all really good starter gun.
If you like the G3c but the grip is too short you can always look into the G3x which is a G3c upper on a full size G3 frame. Or you could go for a +1 or +2 magazine extention. Although at that point I would just go for the "full size" G3 " to get the extra 1" barrel length.
You got just what you asked for the G3C is here. The trigger has been improved. I like it and I bet you will too. Going to do some upgrades. A really nice gun and popular too. Check it out.
Negative. The catch is in the trigger safety hook. That is also the part that can potentially break and render the pustol inoperable. I actually did replace the striker guide with the Lakeline part. But it instantly caused failures to return to battery. So I took it back out and put the stock polymer guide back in. I eventually installed the Keep Tinkering SAO trigger and the problems are totally eliminated.
I took a dremel to the striker pin guide and it took away that false wall / gritty trigger pull. I also deburred and polished the firing pin. Factory trigger is ok now 😊 (On G2C with 3,000+ rounds through it)
I didn't have any issues with the factory guide. I tried a stainless guide and took it back out immediately. It instantly caused failures to return to battery.
My coworker just bought both this pistol about 2 months ago, I put about 100 rounds through it and he put 200 rounds through it with ease, no jams, no misfires, no nothing, every time I pulled the trigger it had something to say + I ❤️ the grip on it. Soon as I can find the G2C in .40 I’m buying it ASAP
Once you get one of these G series pistols in your hands you start seeing what everyone is talking about. I don't even like saying it's great for the money. It's actually just a great design period. And it looks like the reliability is what it should be at any price.
I don’t even watch a lot of these videos I go straight to the comments and there are so many comments supporting it on every video that I’m buying one right now
Baz on Blades I’ve been hearing a lot of back and forth about the subject but is it actually good for the firearm to be dry fired a lot, like I’m being told to do so with my g2c?
Try an Asmund Short stroke trigger by Galloway Precision in your G2c. Wide trigger that uses the stock safety blade and it works flawlessly. I have installed them on 7 or 8 G2c's (4 of those belong to me and my family members). Also takes all the side to side play out of the trigger. Plus, the main thing is it is also thicker front to back that they claim puts the trigger face 30% forward over stock. Put 300-400 rounds through your G3 and the trigger pull will probably be about 4.5-5 lbs, no more. One feature (at least I hope it's a feature) that I've noticed on my G3 is if you slam the mag in with a little force it automatically drops the slide, chambering a round.
I actually chose to go with a Keep Tinkering SAO trigger for my G2c. It took out 45% of the pull length, did away with the restrike feature and totally eliminated the trigger dingus safety. KT also has multiple models so you can set the forward trigger position to your preference/hand size. Now my G2c is more like carrying a true single action semi-auto. In fact I carry it exactly how I would a 1911. As far as pull weight, both my G2c and G3 break at slightly less than 5 lbs. You are right about the round count. They come alive around 250 to 400 rounds. I also spot lube all the trigger bar contact/rub points which really helps the feel of the trigger pull. Both my G series pistols have about 1500 rounds through them and are a joy to shoot with zero malfunctions of any kind.
I dont remember but the little blade safety was removed and the trigger is wide and comfy. Pulls better, feels better, looks way better. Get a G3c and do your review. I have both and will probably get a G3 real soon. Your not a label snob so I like your vids....
A gun that feels comfortable for you and reliably goes bang is a "cool" gun. I'm happy to buy a well-designed handgun that costs less than $300. I feel happy to get a good gun for that price instead of $500-$900 or over $1,000 or even $2,000 (for a 1911.) You have the 1st real G2C/G3 comparison review. Good deal. And EVERYTHING is a training issue (whether it's guns or knives.)
There was an article on USCCA awhile back about the transformation that Taurus has undergone since the CEO of Colt joint Taurus a few years back. They spent the money on QC instead of advertising and let the product sell it’s self. I’m sold. I would venture to say the production cost of most polymer framed guns ( including the garden variety glock)is less than $170. I’m sure some are higher but most. Taurus has started to chip away at the “ Its junk if it don’t cost $500” myths that us Americans were programed to believe when there were fewer players in the game. But not anymore. Taurus is respectable and my hat is off to them. .
Great job. I had a pt 24/7 pro from the "bad" taurus days and i never had a problem with it, kinda sad i sold it. The g3 kinda reminds me of that and I loved that gun. I have a g2c now and i want the g3 but i cant justify another 9mm thats really not that much different than what i already have (cant justify yet anyway).
A great example of how the internet seems to make bad reputations out of very little real world issues. I think that is what really hurts Taurus. I personally have never had a Taurus fail on me. I currently own the G3, G2c and a M66 revolver. I have also owned an 856 revolver. All were/are totally flawless. I understand about buying another 9mm. I couldn't rationalize buying another one myself right now. Good thing is, the G3 is good enough to stick around and be available a long time.
@@BazonBlades Exactly, I always took crap for buying a Taurus, and some bad rep might be warranted, but it always went bang when i pulled the trigger. Next up is a tx22. I have a hard time affording enough 9mm ammo to practice. I have an m&p 15-22 and its time to train pistol on the cheap too. Ill be checking out more of your vids, im a knife guy as well (no jams, never run out of bullets). Take care.
Just so you "working guys" know there are people like me, I own the following Taurus guns.....PT709 Slim; 856 Stainless +p, 856 Ultralight, Model 66 357 7 round revolver with 6" barrel, G2c; G3c with Viridian red dot laser, and finally the TH9 hammer fired. That's seven....7....as in 6+1 or 8-1. The ONLY problem I ever had was with the 709 Slim which I bought from a friend who had recently bought it and said it was jamming with all three mags. Bought it cheap, cleaned and oiled and found out it just does not like steel casings which is what he was using, the Russian junk from Academy Sports. Use brass only and never had another problem. If you buy the 856 revolvers, the factory grips are just ok but I switched them off for Packmayr checkered wood grips for the added palm swell. If you have small hands, you may find the factory rubber grips just fine. (Note; the steel case ammo I have works great in my ugly Hi Point 995TS carbine, which will eat anything you got in 9mm and never fail.)
I finally found something my G2c doesn't like to eat. It doesn't want to feed the first round of Wolf steel case if you use the slide release. But only if you use the slide release. If you manually rack the slide it feeds fine. And it's only the first round. Not a big issue since I refuse to buy steel case ammo. But it was interesting to discover.
Winchester centerfire has given me several problems, but never had a problem with federal, on another note I immediately noticed the problem with the trigger on the g2c when I started using it so definitely not a one person problem in that aspect.
It is a widely reported issue. The trigger safety design is horrendous. But luckily that is totally fixed on the G3. And I can't wait till the G3c comes out with the new trigger design.
I'm shopping for one of these now. I own 3 Taurus pistols, and 5 Taurus revolvers a couple for over 30 years. I've never had any issues with any of them. all but one have over 5000 rounds through them. The one that doesn't is my PT111 G2. It has over 2500 rounds. No FTF or FTE. It's run flawlessly. I bought it new for $180.00 about 2 years ago. Money well spent. I have many other guns I've spent more on that weren't as dependable. Just my experience. Your mileage may vary
My experience is the same. I currently have two Taurus semi-autos and one revolver. All have been totally flawless. Have you seen the new Defender 856 revolvers? I am really liking the look of a 3" small frame 6 shot 38 special +P. They even come with a factory front night sight with orange focus ring. www.taurususa.com/firearms/revolvers/taurus-defender-856/?mc_cid=ba3c6572ee&mc_eid=0bd57e715e
I have both, I love both, tritium on the G2c, laser on the G3. Alien Gear makes a nice holster for the G2c, need to get a shell for the G3. Hope they come out with a metal guide rod and spring for the G3 soon. Both are great Guns. Thanks for the video.
Which laser did you add to the G3? I will be receiving mine soon and only intend to have the gun for home defense. New gun owner so thought a laser would serve me well until I get up to speed.
I've got the Keep Tinkering SAO trigger myself. It's fantastic, and in conjunction with the Lakeline recoil assembly and striker guide, this gun is now fabulous! All of the issues with the firearm are fixed with these simple upgrades. Along with the $225 cost of the gun itself, it's still only around $300-ish for a real competitor among average to great 9mm. I like the smoothness added with the stainless Lakeline parts. The original plastic parts didn't help, the striker bore to striker guide needs to be smooth and precision made, the plastic guide has flashing and isn't very well fit. It feels like there was a little play in there that is now perfect. Cleaning the gun out and lubricating the slide and frame rails helped too. But that trigger upgrade was the single best addition! The false wall of the trigger safety is now gone, the pull is half what it used to be so you don't have to pull the trigger into the grip like stock.
I have both the Lakeline recoil spring assembly and striker guide, but neither are in the pistol. I am testing the factory recoil assembly so haven't changed that yet. I did change the striker guide, but instantly had failure to return to battery with the slide. I uninstalled and reinstalled and it was the same. I honestly wasn't very impressed with the machining of the striker guide. It was left very crude on my example. The instant I reinstalled the factory polymer guide the issue disappeared totally. If the new yellow guide in the G3 omits the slot for the old key lock and will retrofit to the G2C I may try it.
@@BazonBlades Wow that sucks! Mine fit and functioned perfect. Much smoother than the plastic guide. Maybe get hold of Lakeline and swap it out for a new one?
My G2C does not catch on the trigger blade safety at all. When it was new, there was a very slight catch but it was easily fixed. It happens because the clearance between the hooked end of the safety where it interacts with the trigger bar is a little close, or there is a little manufacturing flash causing a bit of roughness on one of the edges. The fix is this: Remove the slide from the gun. Put a tiny drop of mid weight machine oil, like ISO 68 hydraulic oil, on the hooked end of the trigger safety (#43 on the exploded view) where it engages with the trigger bar (#46) above and behind the trigger inside the frame. You can see the hooked end of the trigger safety if you turn the frame upside down and look behind the trigger. Pull the trigger with one fingertip or with the thumb and index finger of one hand without touching the safety blade until the trigger catches on the safety. Maintain light tension, then pull the safety blade with a finger of your other hand until the trigger releases and travels backward. Do this repeatedly until the mechanism smooths out and you are good to go. The trigger takeup on my G2C is nice and smooth and I can feel when the tab near the front right of the trigger bar touches the firing pin block (#19) to push it upward.
Thanks for the video, I am looking at a G3 but no one around me has one. I wanted to hold one to see if I would like the grip, like I love the grip on my pt111, it’s amazing totally why I bought it. The pt111 was the most comfortable gun I had ever felt in my hands. I was hoping the G3 grip was the same,just longer. Was going to order one, but not sure how it would feel? Nice review of both guns. I have watched a few and no one really mentions the grips being different.
When under a stressful situation I don't think any of us will notice one difference in trigger pull not trying to be a whole but the g2c was designed to be a self defense weapon that's why the trigger is the way it's is the reset on the trigger is awesome we are all becoming gun snobs you will never think about any of this when your life is in danger.
I have to respectfully disagree. The G2C trigger safety can be so bad that it will actually jam the trigger movement. Also there were multiple cases of the trigger safety breaking and locking the trigger. The trigger pull itself is fine. I have no issues with the trigger pull. Just the trigger safety. That is why the G3 trigger is so much better. The pull is the same as the G2C, but the trigger safety redesign is a huge improvement.
@@BazonBlades from what I understand the problems with the trigger safety breaking was on the g2 and previous models it was changed on the g2c yes some lemons make it pass sometimes I've done my homework when I have to defend my life with my g2c I'm pretty sure none of the things you're pointing out will be a problem just saying mine works just fine I know it's a budget gun but I've got other guns too 600 dollars and above but my g2c is a well built gun for the price maybe yours is different but when the time comes to use it in a self defense situation none of what your saying applies to mine and anybody who says any different wouldn't want to be in front mine when I'm defending my life just like colt 45 mine works everytime.
@@timtaylor1483 Maybe you got a gem, or it's the "luck 'O the Irish" but I personally have had the trigger safety on the G2c hang up and prevent striker release twice. There are a couple TH-camrs who have also shown this happening while at the range. The safety can pivot out of your grip while pulling. The tolerance of the tang on the trigger safety also doesn't allow it to fully get out of the way during proper grip and pull, causing you to feel a FALSE wall. The fix is a $30 trigger swap. I'm not disparaging this firearm at all! With a few mods this G2C is superior to many $400-500 9mm pistols!
@@BazonBlades Yep! You are like me. We both agree about the trigger safety issue. I think you might also agree with me that in practice, you want the best possible trigger feel ESPECIALLY in tense, chaotic situations. The better the trigger feels, the more confident and accurate your prints will be- on targets, or attacker!
The Taurus g-series is not designed after a Glock it is designed after the original H&K the first polymer Striker fire gun . Being a much more refined design is capable of 10 times better trigger pull then a (glop). Description of the difference between compact and subcompact thank you very much. Great video as well. Funny. I have a Tan & Black G2c and a Black G3, w 3-17 rd mags Hate trigger safeties. BUT This is so much nicer. Been trying to get Taurus to send me a G3 trigger to replace it with. No reply glock designed it a little cheap as possible getting a terrible trigger. The T22, G2c, and G3 w17rd mag. Will Stand by themselves. You know in case THEY have another online broom challenge. Its all in the Balance. Or Hips.
I joined the G3 family today as well, incredibly good shooting and comfortable pistol. Thanks for the great review here, I'm thinking about changing out the blacked out rear sight with a 2 dot option. Aur either could paint some on but aftermarket are really affordable etc. That's the only thing I see me changing. GOD bless America.
I simply affixed the G2C pistol on a stand with the barrel pointing up, dripped superglue beside the trigger shoe & tied it solidly with a bread tie. When the glue was dry, the trigger problems disappeared. And it still has 2nd strike capability. There is no catch in the trigger even if I push sideways on the trigger. To test this method to see if you like it, just tie the trigger shoe with a bread tie & leave out the glue. Absolutely no interference as there was before.
Well, if that works for you then good. I chose to go with a dedicated replacement part that not only fixed the safety issue but also improved trigger shoe comfort and trigger pull. To each his own. Thanks for watching.
The first 500 rounds I put through my G2C were Wolf steel case 115 grain. It's the cheapest ammo I could find and I figured if it runs this with no problems, it should run everything. Out 0f about 480 rounds, 4 failed to go off on the first trigger pull. They all went bang with the re-strike
I have a g2 and it’s great I like it a lot at first I hated the trigger but after I disassembled the slide and removed all the stock lube it felt a lot better the trigger pull was lighter and overall cleaner I suggest everyone who has this pistol do the same if anyone need directions I will share the how to video
I think small things like this really help the grittiness in the factory trigger pull. I took mine apart and cleaned all the factory lube out. Then I disassembled the striker and striker guide and cleaned both. There is also a couple of rub spots between the trigger bar and inside of the frame. I hit both of those spots with one micro drop of rem grease. Now all the grittiness is gone. The crappy trigger safety is still there, but the grittiness is gone. I actually like the G2c trigger pull. And love the G3 trigger pull.
For your info on the g2c buy the Asmund SS trigger, leave out the skinny trigger safety bar and with this trigger you still have second strike capabilities.
I like my PT-111 G2, except for the sights. I found that the sights were a little off on both a PT111 and a Taurus Slim. However, it is a good little gun. In fact, I bought the TX-22 due to the quality of the G2. These are lower priced firearms, but they go bang every-time you press the trigger.
That was just Jack demonstrating that Gravity works fine in your kitchen, and proving the Earth is NOT flat, as cats would have pushed everything on Earth off the edge by now if it were!
Great video. I keep getting told the only difference between the two is size. The second I picked up the g3 I could tell there was a difference. I'll just own both to settle the issue
I really appreciate this video I was concerned about the trigger and you’re the first I’ve heard something negative about the G2C trigger. Love the brutal honesty. I’ll sub too 🤷♂️
I bought a new G3 about a month ago. It has just (almost) replaced my KelTec P11 as my EDC. I still carry the P11 when I need a more compact package for concealment. I already have about 400 rounds thru the G3 and it performs flawlessly. Some reviewers say it can be finicky on the ammo, but so far mine eats even the cheapest crap like a 6 year old eats M&M's! $300 out the door including sales tax. I love mine! Side note - I also have a 1st issue Judge (all steel 4 inch) that tags along on certain trips. Thinking about getting a Taurus .38 wheelgun for my girlfriend. Those are also in an affordable price range for the average working stiff.
My G3 has been flawless. But I have to admit I don't use super cheap ammo. Even my bulk ammo is decent stuff. I never buy steel case ammo so I never have to worry about that. If you are looking for a wheel gun for your lady look at the new Taurus Defender 856. It's a small frame .38 special +P with a six round cylinder, 3" barrel and factory front night sight. The steel versions are heavy but there are two ultra light versions at 16.5 oz. Getting the small "J frame" size with 3" barrel and 6 rounds is pretty sweet. They should be dropping soon.
@@BazonBlades - I try all the cheapest crap ammo I can because I want to know what I can get away with in a pinch. We never know what kind of situation we can find ourselves in if everything goes down the crapper. In a worst case scenario the crap ammo could be all we can get our hands on. I do this with all my toys/tools. If they are too finicky and won't eat everything I won't keep it. And thanks for the tip on the new wheel gun. I'll keep my eyes open for its release. Greatly appreciated!
@@hiredgun05, I totally get your mindset on the cheap ammo. It's just that I typically keep a few thousand rounds of FMJ on hand for each of my firearms, so I don't worry too much about scrounging ammo. If things get that bad I will be falling back on my AR rather than pistols anyway. Here's a link for that new Defender 856. I think it will be a big seller for taurus......www.taurususa.com/firearms/revolvers/taurus-defender-856/
@@BazonBlades - I keep plenty on hand also, but we are not always in the same location as our stockpile so I believe it is best if we can be prepare for whatever situation that may come to be. Example, SHTF while away and you have to use what you can find to get back to your stockpile and cheap crap may be the only or fastest thing you can get your hands on at the moment. I always have my sidearm with 2 spare mags. Depending on which one I have at the moment I have either 30 or 45 rounds on hand. That amount can be used up pretty quickly in a worst case event. One should be prepared to reload with whatever can be quickly found, and it is possible that it could be the crappiest crap made. One should be confident that their tools can eat that stuff without getting choked on it. You may not only have to trust your tools with your life - you may have to trust it with your soul! I'm NOT a doomsday kind of guy, but I do like to try to be as prepared as I can. And thanks for the link. I checked it out and that looks pretty damn sweet! HG
@@hiredgun05, I am so lucky that I am such a loser with no life. I am very seldom away from my home base and at hand supplies. I am also lucky that I live in a small agricultural community in the south. I honestly have never even had to pull my firearm. And I have never heard of any extended shoot outs in my area. I typically carry my LC9s Pro with one spare mag or my G2c with one spare mag. Even then I am probably over prepared for my locality. I have to be honest, I am pretty excited about the Defender 856. It just seems like the perfect carry revolver. Much better than my M66 which is a medium frame .357
My wife just got me a G2c and a G3 for my birthday! Damn, I love that woman!
Congrats give her a good ol pounding from the back pull her hair too she keep buying you guns after that bro do the damn thang
Damn !boy she a widow maker.
You better take care of that woman. She's a keeper.
DOGS LIFE that’s why she be taking care of me! She gave me this nickname lol
Baz on Blades lol, she has put up with me for 24 years, so I hope she doesn’t lose her patience and figure out that she could do better! Just kidding I’m amazing and humble too!
Definitely a Great video but Watch at 1.5x speed thank me later lol
I can be long winded.
thank you
I ain't gonna deal with you bro OMG 😂😂 so true thank you thank you!!!!
I watched at 2x.
thank you lmao
Just brought a g3 about three weeks ago as my first gun and it is 5stars for me from the control, the feel, the recoil and weight. Love it
I have never been a Taurus fan until recently...I carry a G2c every day
I think that Taurus is making some very good decisions right now. And I hope to see them continue in the positive direction they are currently headed. I am not embarrassed at all to carry any of the Taurus firearms I own. They are finely made. I carry my G2c quite often.
Same, so surprised my $175 G2C is apart of my everyday carry. But its worked great so far.
He sound slow 😂😂😂😂😂
Stay safe and dangerous
Same here. My daily is the g2c that I bought 2 days ago.
You're the only one who explains why the reset is longer on this trigger, great video!
It's weird that none of the other channels cared enough to explain it. Thanks for watching.
I like the g series tarus models. It's a gun for the lower class working man. You shouldn't have to pay 500 and up for a decent gun
I agree.
That's y I am getting one I think paying 600 for a glock that looks the same ....
Does the trigger from the g3 fit on the g2c?
@@z2eight, No it does not fit.
@@BazonBlades Thanks, appreciate it. Do you have any suggestions on a smoother trigger that still functions the same as factory? With budget in mind.
The re-strike capability isn't only for live ammo. Its also great for dry fire practice and laser ammo practice too.
Do you recommend a specific laser for the G2C?
@@brettbrett7990 i bought a laserhit for mine it's on the website you can get the laser cartridge+targets for 100 bux
Thats what I love about my G2c and G3.
I have a ELMS from G Sight and I love it. It makes getting the sights and Viridian laser zeroed in very easy.
You got laser ammo?
i thought dry fire is not good on any gun, is it okay on taurus?
There will never be one gun that satisfies everyone. I have the PT111, and I'm thinking of getting another Taurus.
absolutey ... I also have the pt111 G2 but recently bought the G3 after all the reviews and I love shooting the G3 ... very smooth firearm
@L Cole.. i still have my pt111 that i bought used back in 2004. I just got a G2.. and i have never had an issue with my pt111
@@donmeccuh I'm thinking of getting a G3 or G2C
I have had my pt111 g2 for 3 years and I absolutely love that gun it was my first handgun. 1000 rounds no problems at all. Today I just picked up a brand new g2c and I love it even more. Just in my opinion, the g2c trigger is smoother than my pt111 g2 believe it or not. My brand new g2c trigger doesn’t click like this guys. Its really not that big of a deal. When someone is 2ft away from you trying to stick a knife in you I won’t be thinking about the comfort of the trigger, I’ll be thinking about the comfort of how I stopped the threat lol just my opinion.
@Mike Johnson thanks...... I'm really thinking about concealment
This is one of the best firearm reviews I have ever watched. One would think you are factory trained. Well Done!
Thank you very much. I try to do the best that I can.
You need someone to litterally repeat themselves over and over? That annoys the shit out of me.
I've had my PT111 G2, it's basically the G2C, since 2015 and I've ran a little over 3k rounds through it. The only things I've done aside from cleaning was once I had around 1k downrange or a little over I decided to go ahead and get the Lakeline Stainless Rod & Captured Springs upgrade for $30 as I just didn't like relying on a plastic Guide/Spring Rod even though it was perfectly fine. I also added a set of Trigicon Iridium night sites and I've of course bought a decent holster and extra mags. Now that I've got all those rounds downrange the trigger has really came into it's own especially because when I had it down for the 1k round upgrade I polished the internals. The trigger pull now is extremely smooth and around 3.5 to 4lbs cocked and even the restrike is smooth if maybe just a touch stiffer of course. Best way to for me to describe this little work horse is shocking. Never in my life did I think I'd own a firearm that I paid $179 out the door with two mags included that would perform and last as this one has. Again I'm over 3k rounds downrange throwing everything at it and never once have I had a failure other than a steelcase that just refused to fire and not just in my G2C. So if you need something you know you can count on to just put in the work you can do a hell of a lot worse than a G2C. It would appear now I need to go out and get the G3 as I didn't even know it was a thing. I just hope it's as solid as my G2. I'd also say no matter what firearm you decide to get put in the work to not only properly test your tool but to practice to know that if the need arises you're both ready...
I have a G2C in ODG, too. I find it rather handsome, in addition to being a good multi-purpose gun.
I agree. The ODG looks really good. Hopefully the G3 will also be available in the color frames like the G2C.
You can VERY easily put an after market trigger in ANY G2c there a lot of guys making absolutely great aftermarket assemblies for them.
What do you recommend?
The only reviewer that I have seen that actually understands and can convey the proper operation of the double strike mechanism. AWESOME
I have definitely become a educated shopper today, because of your willingness to share your insight and experience with this pistol, you have done a phenomenal job of explaining everything thank you. Plus not every dollar I make is always easy so I like to try and invest wisely, again much appreciated and awesome vid!! 👍👍
Thank you very much.
The G3TORO is a awesome weapon. Feels & shoots great. Easy to take down too. And they are priced the way they should be. Trigger safety and manual safety are really great options. 17 & 15 rounds are great options too. Thanks to Taurus for this great weapon.
Bought myself the G3 after watching this video. Great gun, great cost. Shoots extremely nice even though the trigger is still a little dense.
Thanks for the vid!
I can't speak for every example, but my particular G3 showed a big improvement in trigger pull about the 200 round mark.
Break it in and it will be smoother
I feel better with a manual safety on my carry gun. You just have to train to flip it off when you draw it. Not an issue at all for me.
I agree.
Me as well
Me 2
Having a safety on your carry gun can also save your life if the bad guy gets your gun away from you, which does happen. Odds are, they won't know how to operate the safety. This used to be discussed in gun magazines, before the internet.
I disagree. I carry all day long my G3c chambered and without the manual safety on. It's useless for me. In my vision, you have to test and train with your gun to totaly trust it (what I do), and have the skills not to shoot yourself. But that's me. If you train to disable the manual safety to a subconcientious level and quick enough not to die in a defensive situation, it will work.
Three other differences - 1. Loaded Chamber indicator. 2. Longer rail (guess that’s a gimme since it has a longer barrel. 3. Machining of the front of the rail. Otherwise, a good comparison video. About to get my first gun, and had decided on the G2c. But, you’re right, the trigger on the G3 has changed my mind.
Great video. I have G3 and G3c. Love them both! Painted the front sight dots on both pistols with Fluorescent Orange nail polish.
The factory sights really aren't that bad. A little low profile but the sight picture is good. Using orange nail polish on the front dot definitely is a huge improvement though. And I really like the Taurus/Ameriglo night sights that you can get on the Taurus website. I have put them on both my G series pistols.
This makes about the fifth positive TH-cam review I've watched. I'm convinced now that the Taurus G3 will be my next purchase. I will check my three local gun shops for the best price and availability.
So far for me it has been every bit as good as the G2c or any other polymer semi-auto.
Budsgunshop has free shipping and they run about 210-225 depending on the color
Love this Review, Taurus has really stepped up there game,and should be given the credit thats due on there G2C,G2S,G2C3 and current guns of 2018-2020
I agree. Taurus seems to be making a very strong move toward elevating their brand and products to the next level.
TX22 Is a good one too!!
I'm a "Glock guy" but my compact carry is a g2c. I love the gun. After you fix the trigger with a keep tinkering trigger it's a badass gun. I use it for my conceal carry and my backup weapon. My main carry is a G35 or sometimes a g22. But you absolutely cannot beat the g2c.
Adding the Keep Tinkering trigger to a G2c is a game changer. The G2c is already such an ergonomic design. I really like my KT G2c.
Sorry man. The G2C is a awesome handgun. I have never had any issues with the trigger and the reset on the G2c is amazing.‼️
No doubt. But the trigger safety design is a documented weak link in the G2c chain. Not all are bad. But it was enough of an issue to warrent a redesign in the G3.
The g3c trigger is similar to the g3 if not the same. Great improvements by Taurus.
I got small hands but the double stacks still feel more comfortable. Single stack pistols feel too dainty.
I agree. I have two carry pistols. One is the G2c which is a double stack. The other us a Ruger LC9s Pro which is a single stack. The Ruger is much easier to carry, but not as comfortable to shoot. Not even close. Thanks for watching.
The 17rd magazine with a sleeve that forms one continuous hand grip from the G3 works perfectly in the G2. Also make the grip perfect for a typical large male hand giving excellent control on your gun.
I have this on in black Taurus g3. I haven’t shot it yet. But I do plan on taking it to the range, it came with two 17 round magazines.
I currently own the G3 in the ODG and its sexy and shoots very well. Definitely a good buy.
I love the OD frame on my G2c. I think it is a good look with the black slide.
I have a couple of the G2's, the trigger gets better after a few range trips.
I'll probably pick up the G3 one of these days.
I actually like the trigger pull on my G2c. It's the trigger safety that sucks.
@@BazonBlades if you get the upgraded trigger kit from Galloway Precision (about $20) it improves that whole setup drastically. Cheers bro!
Bill i was hoping it would i just got mine an i havent shot it but 3 times so ill take a few trips to the range
Great video video, definitely a 1.5 x. Appreciate your recap on full size, compact, and subcompact sizes.
@@youngmonsta6957 You talkin' to me? Suppressor on what?
@@youngmonsta6957 no suppressor. No G3 either. G2c that I sold. I still have the PT111, and PT145. The PT140 is way too snappy/harsh for me. May get a G3 or G3c, I certainly recommend them.
i just bought this one. fired bout 100 rounds and I love it. still love my g2 also though.super easy to clean and super easy to handle. great gun for the price
I agree. I actually crawled out of my sick bed today to put a few more rounds through my G3. Still running flawlessly, easy to shoot well and accurate.
Love the crisp video I owe A Taurus G3 I really like the gun I also owe a Springfield 3.8 40.Cal and I went and purchased that gun because I seen a lot of good reviews and I like the way they perform good video good teaching on the safety as well despite any other negative comment keep the good videos coming
Thank you very much. I own a Springfield also. An XD Tctical in .45 ACP. I have had it for more than 10 years and it has never had a failure of any type. It's a good pistol.
Great job. i have owned a g2 for a couple years. i wanted i purchased a g3 toro today. again great down to earth video.
Thank you.....
Very good comparison review. I have been thinking of getting one or the other. I thought G2c ,with just tinkering trigger, might be the way to go. Now that I see the improvements on the G3, I think the extra cost is worth it.
If the increased size works for you then I say G3 all the way. It really is that much of an improvement.
If aliens came down and put rounds in your gun, I’d say you shouldn’t be tripping on acid while handling a firearm anyway.
greasedog 😂😂😂😂
I like what MoN posted on your presentation I MUST say I feel the same way. with that being Said Baz on Blades I really like the way you simplified the G3 & the G2C Outstanding .. WORK - I know you a Blade Man - but also a Gun Man LOL just wanted to make you smile BladeGuN MaN new nickname GOD Bless 2 all Gun Owner & the 2nd Ad.... the right 2 bear Arms .... let us hear from you again Baz ... I have been using fire Arm for over 30 years - a member/ instructor of the NRA
Thank you very much. I am a simple man and try to keep things simple so everyone can understand. It's so hard to quantify or explain how something feels in the hand. I try my best.
Great Review!!! I have watched a lot of reviews regarding the G3 vs G2C and you are the only one who have pointed out those differences. Taurus have really stepped up their game and have gone on the right direction with so many G2C reviewers raving and recommending the G2C. But with all of them being happy with the performance of G2C, after trying out the G3 most of them if not all of them sees how the G3 is the much improved version. I hope they make a G3C soon because that would just be amazing having a G3 ComPACT version! Kudos to you and continue to make great reviews.
Thanks for watching and I totally agree. The G3c will be so awesome with this trigger/safety design.
I Put another 50 rounds of 124grn FMJ through the G3 today. That is 200 rounds of FMJ and 50 rounds of HST so far with no failures. The 30 rounds I shot all went into a 5" group at 21'. Decent shooting for me. Especially in low light.
I am still blown away by how good the G3 is.
Just a kick ass video. Got into details no one else ever mentions. You're my hero Bazz!
Thank you very much.
I have the G2C, and when I pull that "awful, worst trigger ever," it still fires every single time!!! Wahi' Valleys
Point taken....And I totally agree. My G2c has always been 110% reliable. Even if the trigger shoe and safety were terrible. Keep in mind, I was referring to the physical trigger shoe and safety only. Not the trigger pull. That is why the G3 trigger is such a big improvement. The trigger pull is unchanged, but the trigger shoe and safety were totally redesigned.
All good! Wahi' Valleys
Replace the trigger with the asmund trigger still allows you to still have the dbl action pull.
haha I just traded my m&p 2.0 4.25 inch for BOTH the g2c and a g3. the gun store owner traded me what I paid for it new and thought I was crazy trading in a proven gun for 2 Taurus's. I had almost 7,000 rounds thru the 2.0 but it looked brand new as I take good care of my shit. I said i'll take my chance. way i see it i got 2 BRAND NEW guns. My wife is now the proud owner of the purple g2c by her night stand while i'm at work and i'm the proud owner of a g3 I cant wait to sling some lead with.
That's awesome. I hope they both prove to be 100% reliable and a joy to shoot.
@@BazonBlades have had the G3 for six weeks. Absolutely love it. it's my EDC and I''ve used it in some advanced training. fantastic!!
I have the pt111 g2 ive been eyeball the 4.25 m&p m2.0. Wondering should i pay half and get g3
I love my G3!
Turned 1 gun into 2 guns! You should be a magician!
I also have an OD green Taurus G2C. I really enjoy this gun!
G2c trigger catch 9 minutes in the video. Yup it's there. How I fixed mine push on the trigger slightly hitting the trigger bar not directly centered.. Dry firing it a bunch of times with your finger not directly center will remove that catch problem.
It may remove the problem. But I have also seen reports of broken trigger safety blades rendering G2c's inoperable. Mine definitely has the catch. But I can shoot around it.
I have The PT Millennium G2 an the full size pt 809 which Taurus changed to the Th name, which comes loaded with features that a way more expensive gun would have so if you're in the market for a full size ambidextrous pistol check out the th line, Both have been awesome guns.
Taurus is really doing a great job making good guns at a great price Rock on Taurus !!!
Striker with manual safety. Not easy to find one, for me it's a must!
Many people absolutely prefer a manual safety with any type of single action trigger system. I totally understand that.
The pt 111 I have has around 15k rounds through it and the only major hiccup that wasn't due to it being dirty was the guide rod spring breaking at around 5k rounds. Bought a stainless steel guide rod for $25 and has been running like a champ ever since. Enjoyed the video :)
I also bought a stainless recoil spring assembly, but have not installed it. I want to see how the stock part wears first. Zero issues so far though.
I recently got the G3c an I do say for my first firearm I really like it. My only frame of refrence for handguns is a buddy of mine that had one, an his trigger was super stiff. Like my hand shaking to even set off the striker. And im glad I went with the G3c. I think the only thing I wish was the grip was maybe like an inch or 2 longer. I like the shape I just have slightly bigger hands. but over all really good starter gun.
If you like the G3c but the grip is too short you can always look into the G3x which is a G3c upper on a full size G3 frame. Or you could go for a +1 or +2 magazine extention. Although at that point I would just go for the "full size" G3 " to get the extra 1" barrel length.
You got just what you asked for the G3C is here. The trigger has been improved. I like it and I bet you will too. Going to do some upgrades. A really nice gun and popular too. Check it out.
Thank you for your honest unbiased opinion! Very refreshing and informative!
Thanks for watching.
Just bought my G3 in ODG, and I love it. It will be my edc from here on out!
I bet it looks good in OD.
Your wish came true the new G3C is here and it has the G3 trigger 🙌🏾 . Im about to order it right now
Taurus did way more than I thought they would with the G3c. I predict it will smoke the market in the remainder of 2020.
Baz on Blades I agree it’s perfect
I love my g2c smithed my slide it's competition tight. No wiggle slop or play in slide and barrel. Tighter than a baby Doe. Locks up rock solid.
Sweet....
Do know the barrel is SUPPOSE to move and helps with the action of the gun!
@@bryanrmcnair01 runs flawlessly sharp as a razor . you smith it a tiny bit at a time sir and each time checking it for function till its perfection.
Honest outlaw has reviewed the g3 for several years now and he speaks highly of it and shoots it very well.
I've seen his G series content and it seems spot on from my personal experience. And he damn sure is a better shooter than I am.
I own the G2 and G2C and they both are great guns. I want a G3 as well.
The catch is in the plastic striker guide. It's why some upgrade it to a stainless one.
Negative. The catch is in the trigger safety hook. That is also the part that can potentially break and render the pustol inoperable.
I actually did replace the striker guide with the Lakeline part. But it instantly caused failures to return to battery. So I took it back out and put the stock polymer guide back in.
I eventually installed the Keep Tinkering SAO trigger and the problems are totally eliminated.
I took a dremel to the striker pin guide and it took away that false wall / gritty trigger pull. I also deburred and polished the firing pin. Factory trigger is ok now 😊 (On G2C with 3,000+ rounds through it)
I didn't have any issues with the factory guide. I tried a stainless guide and took it back out immediately. It instantly caused failures to return to battery.
I have a mellenium pro 45 from years ago just ordered my G3 I'm looking so forward to it
It's been good for me so far. I think you will like it.
TS9 is also a good pistol from Taurus, but I think it sells only here in Brazil for now.
My coworker just bought both this pistol about 2 months ago, I put about 100 rounds through it and he put 200 rounds through it with ease, no jams, no misfires, no nothing, every time I pulled the trigger it had something to say + I ❤️ the grip on it. Soon as I can find the G2C in .40 I’m buying it ASAP
Once you get one of these G series pistols in your hands you start seeing what everyone is talking about. I don't even like saying it's great for the money. It's actually just a great design period. And it looks like the reliability is what it should be at any price.
Baz on Blades facts
IVE OWN AND mastered them all and I can say for a fact Taurus is as accurate as any combat pistol
I agree. Thanks for watching.
Dude, you are a badass. And you’re funny, BEST pistol review ever.
Wow....Thank you.
Great Review! Always curious on the Difference, what cAmera are u using sir? Really good quality
I actually use my phone. It's a Galaxy S7. It's my only source of internet.
I don’t even watch a lot of these videos I go straight to the comments and there are so many comments supporting it on every video that I’m buying one right now
It is a worthy purchase.
Baz on Blades I’ve been hearing a lot of back and forth about the subject but is it actually good for the firearm to be dry fired a lot, like I’m being told to do so with my g2c?
Try an Asmund Short stroke trigger by Galloway Precision in your G2c. Wide trigger that uses the stock safety blade and it works flawlessly. I have installed them on 7 or 8 G2c's (4 of those belong to me and my family members). Also takes all the side to side play out of the trigger. Plus, the main thing is it is also thicker front to back that they claim puts the trigger face 30% forward over stock.
Put 300-400 rounds through your G3 and the trigger pull will probably be about 4.5-5 lbs, no more. One feature (at least I hope it's a feature) that I've noticed on my G3 is if you slam the mag in with a little force it automatically drops the slide, chambering a round.
I actually chose to go with a Keep Tinkering SAO trigger for my G2c. It took out 45% of the pull length, did away with the restrike feature and totally eliminated the trigger dingus safety. KT also has multiple models so you can set the forward trigger position to your preference/hand size. Now my G2c is more like carrying a true single action semi-auto. In fact I carry it exactly how I would a 1911.
As far as pull weight, both my G2c and G3 break at slightly less than 5 lbs. You are right about the round count. They come alive around 250 to 400 rounds. I also spot lube all the trigger bar contact/rub points which really helps the feel of the trigger pull. Both my G series pistols have about 1500 rounds through them and are a joy to shoot with zero malfunctions of any kind.
Great trigger!!! Galloway precision is the only way to go
Great video! Very informative. I’ll be on the lookout for the G3C
You and I both will be on the lookout for the G3c. The new trigger system will be a big improvement on the compact model.
I’m sold! I love my G2C! Definitely will be purchasing the G3!
It is so much better than the G2c. Honestly, it's a no brainer for me.
Baz on Blades there’s no doubt I’ll love it! Especially for the price!
Right there with you on your G2c. I put a new trigger in mine also to get away from that sucky tab piece of cow rear pie. I had the same trouble.
Did you do a KT trigger?
I dont remember but the little blade safety was removed and the trigger is wide and comfy. Pulls better, feels better, looks way better. Get a G3c and do your review. I have both and will probably get a G3 real soon. Your not a label snob so I like your vids....
A gun that feels comfortable for you and reliably goes bang is a "cool" gun. I'm happy to buy a well-designed handgun that costs less than $300. I feel happy to get a good gun for that price instead of $500-$900 or over $1,000 or even $2,000 (for a 1911.)
You have the 1st real G2C/G3 comparison review. Good deal. And EVERYTHING is a training issue (whether it's guns or knives.)
You are 100% correct. I personally feel like there is a real "cool factor" to the G2C and G3. Just because they are so darned good.
There was an article on USCCA awhile back about the transformation that Taurus has undergone since the CEO of Colt joint Taurus a few years back. They spent the money on QC instead of advertising and let the product sell it’s self. I’m sold. I would venture to say the production cost of most polymer framed guns ( including the garden variety glock)is less than $170. I’m sure some are higher but most. Taurus has started to chip away at the “ Its junk if it don’t cost $500” myths that us Americans were programed to believe when there were fewer players in the game. But not anymore. Taurus is respectable and my hat is off to them. .
@@wadeyates3273, I think you have pretty much nailed it there. I have been well pleased with all of my nodern Taurus revolvers and semi-autos.
Great job. I had a pt 24/7 pro from the "bad" taurus days and i never had a problem with it, kinda sad i sold it. The g3 kinda reminds me of that and I loved that gun. I have a g2c now and i want the g3 but i cant justify another 9mm thats really not that much different than what i already have (cant justify yet anyway).
A great example of how the internet seems to make bad reputations out of very little real world issues. I think that is what really hurts Taurus.
I personally have never had a Taurus fail on me. I currently own the G3, G2c and a M66 revolver. I have also owned an 856 revolver. All were/are totally flawless.
I understand about buying another 9mm. I couldn't rationalize buying another one myself right now. Good thing is, the G3 is good enough to stick around and be available a long time.
@@BazonBlades Exactly, I always took crap for buying a Taurus, and some bad rep might be warranted, but it always went bang when i pulled the trigger. Next up is a tx22. I have a hard time affording enough 9mm ammo to practice. I have an m&p 15-22 and its time to train pistol on the cheap too. Ill be checking out more of your vids, im a knife guy as well (no jams, never run out of bullets). Take care.
Just so you "working guys" know there are people like me, I own the following Taurus guns.....PT709 Slim; 856 Stainless +p, 856 Ultralight, Model 66 357 7 round revolver with 6" barrel, G2c; G3c with Viridian red dot laser, and finally the TH9 hammer fired. That's seven....7....as in 6+1 or 8-1. The ONLY problem I ever had was with the 709 Slim which I bought from a friend who had recently bought it and said it was jamming with all three mags. Bought it cheap, cleaned and oiled and found out it just does not like steel casings which is what he was using, the Russian junk from Academy Sports. Use brass only and never had another problem. If you buy the 856 revolvers, the factory grips are just ok but I switched them off for Packmayr checkered wood grips for the added palm swell. If you have small hands, you may find the factory rubber grips just fine. (Note; the steel case ammo I have works great in my ugly Hi Point 995TS carbine, which will eat anything you got in 9mm and never fail.)
I finally found something my G2c doesn't like to eat. It doesn't want to feed the first round of Wolf steel case if you use the slide release. But only if you use the slide release. If you manually rack the slide it feeds fine. And it's only the first round.
Not a big issue since I refuse to buy steel case ammo. But it was interesting to discover.
Winchester centerfire has given me several problems, but never had a problem with federal, on another note I immediately noticed the problem with the trigger on the g2c when I started using it so definitely not a one person problem in that aspect.
It is a widely reported issue. The trigger safety design is horrendous. But luckily that is totally fixed on the G3. And I can't wait till the G3c comes out with the new trigger design.
I'm shopping for one of these now. I own 3 Taurus pistols, and 5 Taurus revolvers a couple for over 30 years. I've never had any issues with any of them. all but one have over 5000 rounds through them. The one that doesn't is my PT111 G2. It has over 2500 rounds. No FTF or FTE. It's run flawlessly. I bought it new for $180.00 about 2 years ago. Money well spent. I have many other guns I've spent more on that weren't as dependable. Just my experience. Your mileage may vary
My experience is the same. I currently have two Taurus semi-autos and one revolver. All have been totally flawless.
Have you seen the new Defender 856 revolvers? I am really liking the look of a 3" small frame 6 shot 38 special +P. They even come with a factory front night sight with orange focus ring.
www.taurususa.com/firearms/revolvers/taurus-defender-856/?mc_cid=ba3c6572ee&mc_eid=0bd57e715e
@@BazonBlades I have seen them and want to get the "3 856 Tungsten cerakote with Altamont grips. Love the look.
@@jimmeli5200, that version does look sweet. I think I will get either the ZV version or the black ultralight.
I have both, I love both, tritium on the G2c, laser on the G3. Alien Gear makes a nice holster for the G2c, need to get a shell for the G3. Hope they come out with a metal guide rod and spring for the G3 soon. Both are great Guns. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching.
Mykoe9 is that alien gear for ccw?
Ryan Milton yep, the core shape shifter is either inside or outside the waistband a well thought out design
Lakeline has a guide rod for the G3 listed but no pic yet and it says currently out of stock so it shouldn’t be long!
Which laser did you add to the G3? I will be receiving mine soon and only intend to have the gun for home defense. New gun owner so thought a laser would serve me well until I get up to speed.
I've got the Keep Tinkering SAO trigger myself. It's fantastic, and in conjunction with the Lakeline recoil assembly and striker guide, this gun is now fabulous! All of the issues with the firearm are fixed with these simple upgrades. Along with the $225 cost of the gun itself, it's still only around $300-ish for a real competitor among average to great 9mm. I like the smoothness added with the stainless Lakeline parts. The original plastic parts didn't help, the striker bore to striker guide needs to be smooth and precision made, the plastic guide has flashing and isn't very well fit. It feels like there was a little play in there that is now perfect. Cleaning the gun out and lubricating the slide and frame rails helped too. But that trigger upgrade was the single best addition! The false wall of the trigger safety is now gone, the pull is half what it used to be so you don't have to pull the trigger into the grip like stock.
I did all the same upgrades, but with the sa/da trigger and new spring.. such a game changer.. sights are next on the list
Christian Pitch haha just checked on my order from Lakeline for the sights they will be at my house tomorrow!!
@@christianpitch7993, you replaced the recoil spring assembly?
I have both the Lakeline recoil spring assembly and striker guide, but neither are in the pistol. I am testing the factory recoil assembly so haven't changed that yet.
I did change the striker guide, but instantly had failure to return to battery with the slide. I uninstalled and reinstalled and it was the same. I honestly wasn't very impressed with the machining of the striker guide. It was left very crude on my example. The instant I reinstalled the factory polymer guide the issue disappeared totally. If the new yellow guide in the G3 omits the slot for the old key lock and will retrofit to the G2C I may try it.
@@BazonBlades Wow that sucks! Mine fit and functioned perfect. Much smoother than the plastic guide. Maybe get hold of Lakeline and swap it out for a new one?
My G2C does not catch on the trigger blade safety at all. When it was new, there was a very slight catch but it was easily fixed. It happens because the clearance between the hooked end of the safety where it interacts with the trigger bar is a little close, or there is a little manufacturing flash causing a bit of roughness on one of the edges. The fix is this: Remove the slide from the gun. Put a tiny drop of mid weight machine oil, like ISO 68 hydraulic oil, on the hooked end of the trigger safety (#43 on the exploded view) where it engages with the trigger bar (#46) above and behind the trigger inside the frame. You can see the hooked end of the trigger safety if you turn the frame upside down and look behind the trigger. Pull the trigger with one fingertip or with the thumb and index finger of one hand without touching the safety blade until the trigger catches on the safety. Maintain light tension, then pull the safety blade with a finger of your other hand until the trigger releases and travels backward. Do this repeatedly until the mechanism smooths out and you are good to go. The trigger takeup on my G2C is nice and smooth and I can feel when the tab near the front right of the trigger bar touches the firing pin block (#19) to push it upward.
Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the video, I am looking at a G3 but no one around me has one. I wanted to hold one to see if I would like the grip, like I love the grip on my pt111, it’s amazing totally why I bought it. The pt111 was the most comfortable gun I had ever felt in my hands. I was hoping the G3 grip was the same,just longer. Was going to order one, but not sure how it would feel? Nice review of both guns. I have watched a few and no one really mentions the grips being different.
It's a subtle change but does make a difference.
I personally like the first gen pt pro series because of the solid triggers
Nice review by the "knife guy". I own a PT111 and have over 4k range rounds. The G3 looks like a winner.
Thank you.
Great review Baz. I'm searching for the compact version of the G3, eventually I will score.
Joe, they are out there but with the current situation in the US it is hard to catch them in stock.
@@BazonBlades I found one online, Kentucky Gun Company, shot many rounds over the weekend. It is really a Great shooter
When under a stressful situation I don't think any of us will notice one difference in trigger pull not trying to be a whole but the g2c was designed to be a self defense weapon that's why the trigger is the way it's is the reset on the trigger is awesome we are all becoming gun snobs you will never think about any of this when your life is in danger.
I have to respectfully disagree. The G2C trigger safety can be so bad that it will actually jam the trigger movement. Also there were multiple cases of the trigger safety breaking and locking the trigger.
The trigger pull itself is fine. I have no issues with the trigger pull. Just the trigger safety. That is why the G3 trigger is so much better. The pull is the same as the G2C, but the trigger safety redesign is a huge improvement.
@@BazonBlades from what I understand the problems with the trigger safety breaking was on the g2 and previous models it was changed on the g2c yes some lemons make it pass sometimes I've done my homework when I have to defend my life with my g2c I'm pretty sure none of the things you're pointing out will be a problem just saying mine works just fine I know it's a budget gun but I've got other guns too 600 dollars and above but my g2c is a well built gun for the price maybe yours is different but when the time comes to use it in a self defense situation none of what your saying applies to mine and anybody who says any different wouldn't want to be in front mine when I'm defending my life just like colt 45 mine works everytime.
@@timtaylor1483, good to hear.
@@timtaylor1483 Maybe you got a gem, or it's the "luck 'O the Irish" but I personally have had the trigger safety on the G2c hang up and prevent striker release twice. There are a couple TH-camrs who have also shown this happening while at the range. The safety can pivot out of your grip while pulling. The tolerance of the tang on the trigger safety also doesn't allow it to fully get out of the way during proper grip and pull, causing you to feel a FALSE wall. The fix is a $30 trigger swap. I'm not disparaging this firearm at all! With a few mods this G2C is superior to many $400-500 9mm pistols!
@@BazonBlades Yep! You are like me. We both agree about the trigger safety issue. I think you might also agree with me that in practice, you want the best possible trigger feel ESPECIALLY in tense, chaotic situations. The better the trigger feels, the more confident and accurate your prints will be- on targets, or attacker!
G3, Glock 19 size. There is also a G3C which is same size as this G2C. Apparently they take Sig 226 and Canik mags.
The Taurus g-series is not designed after a Glock it is designed after the original H&K the first polymer Striker fire gun .
Being a much more refined design is capable of 10 times better trigger pull then a (glop). Description of the difference between compact and subcompact thank you very much. Great video as well.
Funny. I have a Tan & Black G2c and a Black G3, w 3-17 rd mags
Hate trigger safeties. BUT This is so much nicer. Been trying to get Taurus to send me a G3 trigger to replace it with. No reply
glock designed it a little cheap as possible getting a terrible trigger. The T22, G2c, and G3 w17rd mag. Will Stand by themselves. You know in case THEY have another online broom challenge. Its all in the Balance. Or Hips.
Just picked one up today, about $320.00 rear sight blacked out, white dot front. Fit & feel are great, haven't shot it yet...
You bought a new G3?
Fantastic pistol. I predict you will enjoy it.
I joined the G3 family today as well, incredibly good shooting and comfortable pistol. Thanks for the great review here, I'm thinking about changing out the blacked out rear sight with a 2 dot option. Aur either could paint some on but aftermarket are really affordable etc. That's the only thing I see me changing. GOD bless America.
I have a G3 with 72 rounds through it so far. Hasn't failed me yet👍👍👍👍👍
That was an excellent review by the way. Thank you so much.
Thank you.
I simply affixed the G2C pistol on a stand with the barrel pointing up, dripped superglue beside the trigger shoe & tied it solidly with a bread tie. When the glue was dry, the trigger problems disappeared. And it still has 2nd strike capability. There is no catch in the trigger even if I push sideways on the trigger. To test this method to see if you like it, just tie the trigger shoe with a bread tie & leave out the glue. Absolutely no interference as there was before.
Well, if that works for you then good. I chose to go with a dedicated replacement part that not only fixed the safety issue but also improved trigger shoe comfort and trigger pull. To each his own. Thanks for watching.
@@BazonBlades … It worked great, but ordering the parts would be better, of course. The snag is a huge safety issue.
The first 500 rounds I put through my G2C were Wolf steel case 115 grain. It's the cheapest ammo I could find and I figured if it runs this with no problems, it should run everything. Out 0f about 480 rounds, 4 failed to go off on the first trigger pull. They all went bang with the re-strike
Sweet. What a great little pistol.
Winchester steel case 9mm 115grn i ran that no issues looks rougher than tula or wolf steel case ammo . my g2c eats it all up
I have a g2 and it’s great I like it a lot at first I hated the trigger but after I disassembled the slide and removed all the stock lube it felt a lot better the trigger pull was lighter and overall cleaner I suggest everyone who has this pistol do the same if anyone need directions I will share the how to video
I think small things like this really help the grittiness in the factory trigger pull. I took mine apart and cleaned all the factory lube out. Then I disassembled the striker and striker guide and cleaned both. There is also a couple of rub spots between the trigger bar and inside of the frame. I hit both of those spots with one micro drop of rem grease. Now all the grittiness is gone. The crappy trigger safety is still there, but the grittiness is gone. I actually like the G2c trigger pull. And love the G3 trigger pull.
For your info on the g2c buy the Asmund SS trigger, leave out the skinny trigger safety bar and with this trigger you still have second strike capabilities.
I am going with the Just Tinkering trigger. It does everything I want it to.
Excellent comparison! Thank you!
Thanks for watching.
G2c is on the way for me.. 😎
I like my PT-111 G2, except for the sights. I found that the sights were a little off on both a PT111 and a Taurus Slim. However, it is a good little gun. In fact, I bought the TX-22 due to the quality of the G2. These are lower priced firearms, but they go bang every-time you press the trigger.
I OWN THE g2 slim and the g3 and I love them. They are cool to me and that's all that matters.
Same here. Thanks for watching.
That was just Jack demonstrating that Gravity works fine in your kitchen, and proving the Earth is NOT flat, as cats would have pushed everything on Earth off the edge by now if it were!
Great video. I keep getting told the only difference between the two is size. The second I picked up the g3 I could tell there was a difference. I'll just own both to settle the issue
Definitely some real differences between the two. And owning both sounds like a good idea.
I really appreciate this video
I was concerned about the trigger and you’re the first I’ve heard something negative about the G2C trigger. Love the brutal honesty.
I’ll sub too 🤷♂️
Welcome to the Baz on Blades family.
I bought a new G3 about a month ago. It has just (almost) replaced my KelTec P11 as my EDC. I still carry the P11 when I need a more compact package for concealment.
I already have about 400 rounds thru the G3 and it performs flawlessly. Some reviewers say it can be finicky on the ammo, but so far mine eats even the cheapest crap like a 6 year old eats M&M's!
$300 out the door including sales tax. I love mine!
Side note - I also have a 1st issue Judge (all steel 4 inch) that tags along on certain trips. Thinking about getting a Taurus .38 wheelgun for my girlfriend. Those are also in an affordable price range for the average working stiff.
My G3 has been flawless. But I have to admit I don't use super cheap ammo. Even my bulk ammo is decent stuff. I never buy steel case ammo so I never have to worry about that.
If you are looking for a wheel gun for your lady look at the new Taurus Defender 856. It's a small frame .38 special +P with a six round cylinder, 3" barrel and factory front night sight. The steel versions are heavy but there are two ultra light versions at 16.5 oz. Getting the small "J frame" size with 3" barrel and 6 rounds is pretty sweet. They should be dropping soon.
@@BazonBlades - I try all the cheapest crap ammo I can because I want to know what I can get away with in a pinch. We never know what kind of situation we can find ourselves in if everything goes down the crapper. In a worst case scenario the crap ammo could be all we can get our hands on. I do this with all my toys/tools. If they are too finicky and won't eat everything I won't keep it.
And thanks for the tip on the new wheel gun. I'll keep my eyes open for its release. Greatly appreciated!
@@hiredgun05, I totally get your mindset on the cheap ammo. It's just that I typically keep a few thousand rounds of FMJ on hand for each of my firearms, so I don't worry too much about scrounging ammo. If things get that bad I will be falling back on my AR rather than pistols anyway.
Here's a link for that new Defender 856. I think it will be a big seller for taurus......www.taurususa.com/firearms/revolvers/taurus-defender-856/
@@BazonBlades - I keep plenty on hand also, but we are not always in the same location as our stockpile so I believe it is best if we can be prepare for whatever situation that may come to be. Example, SHTF while away and you have to use what you can find to get back to your stockpile and cheap crap may be the only or fastest thing you can get your hands on at the moment.
I always have my sidearm with 2 spare mags. Depending on which one I have at the moment I have either 30 or 45 rounds on hand. That amount can be used up pretty quickly in a worst case event. One should be prepared to reload with whatever can be quickly found, and it is possible that it could be the crappiest crap made. One should be confident that their tools can eat that stuff without getting choked on it. You may not only have to trust your tools with your life - you may have to trust it with your soul!
I'm NOT a doomsday kind of guy, but I do like to try to be as prepared as I can.
And thanks for the link.
I checked it out and that looks pretty damn sweet!
HG
@@hiredgun05, I am so lucky that I am such a loser with no life. I am very seldom away from my home base and at hand supplies. I am also lucky that I live in a small agricultural community in the south. I honestly have never even had to pull my firearm. And I have never heard of any extended shoot outs in my area. I typically carry my LC9s Pro with one spare mag or my G2c with one spare mag. Even then I am probably over prepared for my locality.
I have to be honest, I am pretty excited about the Defender 856. It just seems like the perfect carry revolver. Much better than my M66 which is a medium frame .357
I want both!
Forgot to mention that 32 round magazines for the Taurus are only $19.