I don't even play SC2 as i am just too old to keep up with the clicks, but i love your commentary and explanation of strats the players use. Got my sub!
It's not just that, he plays literally zero defense and made very BAD strategic fights. Takes fights in bad position. Fails to stop basic lurker drops. Fails to stop basic nydus tunnel. Gets outflanked numerous times. Add all that and have a low force multiplier count is what this series is about.
@@cloudsmith7803 I don't agree with that, because Byun can't see everything we can 100% of the time. You're focusing a lot on the times when he lost while completely ignoring the fact that he did put Dark on the ropes multiple times in this series. They're both just really good, and one thing about Dark is he is relentless once he gets going. As for playing defense, we literally see BYun defending his bases a few times, but he understands playing against Dark better than probably anyone here with the exception of Winter. Dark cannot be turtled. If you let him build uncontested, he will crush you, and you saw how even most of the fights were. BYun won those exchanges on micro far more than raw unit composition, even though it was relatively favorable for him at times. It's easy to call the Nydus basic when we can always see it, but BYun doesn't have 100% vision over the map, and he's trying to do a LOT more in a minute than most Starcraft players would do in five. I notice you don't say Dark fails to stop the marine drops, though that happens several times. BYun decimated Dark's worker count several times, but he's a really skilled player, so that didn't finish him off. I'll happily agree BYun is a little stuck in his ways and should probably be a bit more fluid in his strategies, but skill really isn't the problem. They both had good exchanges and bad exchanges when it came to flanking, and lest we forget, the battles frequently ended in BYun's favor in terms of the resource trade. He just couldn't deal the final blow, which DOES come down to what you're saying regarding force multipliers like Ghosts, Thors, etcs.
Dark is such a great Zerg...my only issue with him is that he throws away too many units too easily. If he was even 30% more efficient with his units he would be a much, much harder player to compete with
41:13 All the maps really are made by Terrans, aka hoomans. It's a Terran game. They let the Zerg grow for sport, but they always hatch angry and try to spread creep to create a habitat. And clearly the Protoss get yanked through time and space onto our plane of existence for the same reason, shouting their mouthless cries the whole time. Probably why it's always so satisfying to watch Terrans lose.
Every time I get back into rts, I cry a little, knowing I missed the heyday of aoe2,sc, and sc2. Even though I was playing aoe2 back in the heyday, rural internet at the time kept me from being able to play online.
You are the best at describing Darks treacherous playstyle😂 Love every second of it. I've been watching since the 1000 likes that Jimmy is required to get to be paid) Keep up the good content
Hey Winter. You seem to not understand the difference between "either" and "both". If units are coming in from two sides at the same time, they are coming in from both sides. If units can choose which side to come in from, they can come from either side. But you cannot have units coming in from either side at once. They are coming in from both sides at once. "you can have either x or y but not both" See? Either refers to individual things, not multiple things like both does.
I've had a fun day watching history documentaries and having lovely conversations with wonderful people on the internet about religion. This is exactly what I needed before bed. I can't wait to see how Byun handles the number 1 player ranked by Dark.
I don't understand why terran don't always all in with reapers...I find that terran and protoss early game is so oppressive compare to zerg. You have the squishiest bug zergling vs Marine who can easily shoot you from a distance or reaper that can move back and shoot you can move back and keep kiting and jump over cliff and regenerate .,...and I would have lost 100% and way before dark. I don't know how you are suppose to counter this except hope that the Terran makes a mistake and get caught somewhere or stop microing and goes back to their natural and then you jump on them...when they are not looking. It seems to me that the only way to win when you play zerg is to be just outright better at microing and being fast....if you are not, you will lose 100% of the time. And even when Zerg wins, 90% of the time, Zerg have lost 10,000+ ressource often 100+ units...you have to be so calm and collected not to panic when losing so many unit and still thinking well I got this. Also Both Terran and Protoss are able to harass by air so easily and Zerg I find as such a difficult time responding to air harass.
@@richardwhite6062 Yeah, Byun offensive style leaves zero defense at home. So if you catch him across the map , like the lurker drop, nydus tunnel, you got him.
In a shocking turn of events here we see... oh no nevermind, its just byun, he micros some marines and reapers, then loses again. No need to watch these games.
Just wanna say Terran are straight op, they can essentially say fuck comp and just bioball everything. Colossus more bioball avoid high ground chokes. Anything zerg just bioball stimulate and push.
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I don't even play SC2 as i am just too old to keep up with the clicks, but i love your commentary and explanation of strats the players use. Got my sub!
I too am Post Youth 😅
How old are you?
You’re never too old to play StarCraft 2.
I'm 38y and slow as F, and I'm Diamond. If you like the game, go for it and play, despite some toxic people, most of them are there to have fun.
46 years old here. Come fight me, youngling!
Sees byun in the thumb nail, opens video and hits like, then sees its byun vs dark, aggressively likes more harder.
You should use the fusion core sound whenever Byun makes a Ghost Academy (At least if he's in one of those moods)
I dunno what I'd do with my life without Winter casting games.
This is a premiere tournament so Dark won't G -
Dark: GG
No, he said ㅎㅎ
@@iamgreysian4016 Touche
Tried to scare us with this 14:27 2023 remark, didn't you? You cheeky boggart. Made my heart skip a beat there.
Dark: (Game 3) I ain't afraid of no Ghost🎶
ByuN vs Dark was the best sc2 final of all time at blizzcon
Byun refusing to build any force multipliers whatsoever for his Bio is getting old now 🙁.
Is he playing some sort of challenge?
It might just be his preference. He likes using his bio Terran because of the precision it allows for micro, but no one stays young forever.
It's not just that, he plays literally zero defense and made very BAD strategic fights.
Takes fights in bad position.
Fails to stop basic lurker drops.
Fails to stop basic nydus tunnel.
Gets outflanked numerous times.
Add all that and have a low force multiplier count is what this series is about.
@@cloudsmith7803 I don't agree with that, because Byun can't see everything we can 100% of the time. You're focusing a lot on the times when he lost while completely ignoring the fact that he did put Dark on the ropes multiple times in this series. They're both just really good, and one thing about Dark is he is relentless once he gets going. As for playing defense, we literally see BYun defending his bases a few times, but he understands playing against Dark better than probably anyone here with the exception of Winter. Dark cannot be turtled. If you let him build uncontested, he will crush you, and you saw how even most of the fights were. BYun won those exchanges on micro far more than raw unit composition, even though it was relatively favorable for him at times.
It's easy to call the Nydus basic when we can always see it, but BYun doesn't have 100% vision over the map, and he's trying to do a LOT more in a minute than most Starcraft players would do in five. I notice you don't say Dark fails to stop the marine drops, though that happens several times. BYun decimated Dark's worker count several times, but he's a really skilled player, so that didn't finish him off.
I'll happily agree BYun is a little stuck in his ways and should probably be a bit more fluid in his strategies, but skill really isn't the problem. They both had good exchanges and bad exchanges when it came to flanking, and lest we forget, the battles frequently ended in BYun's favor in terms of the resource trade. He just couldn't deal the final blow, which DOES come down to what you're saying regarding force multipliers like Ghosts, Thors, etcs.
So when do terrans and reapers get a nerf?
You had me at "unfettered greed" :D
30:40 Speaking of compliments for doing your job, I love your casting style! As far as I'm concerned, if you don’t cast a game, it didn't happen lol
byun and dark are always entertaining :D
54:35 I wonder if the base edge is close enough to the expansion to do creep tumor cheese
...Drums. Drums in the deep...
4:35 where you just about to sing the shfifty five song xD, shwigity shwo
Dark is such a great Zerg...my only issue with him is that he throws away too many units too easily. If he was even 30% more efficient with his units he would be a much, much harder player to compete with
“Bio-curious” is such an underrated line lmfao
Game number 2 was so fun to watch with Dancing Queens and a Spine crawler running away from reapers
I think it would be fun if he didn't know who the players were and had to guess them by playstyle 😀
GG! A classic story for Terran.. Zerg is tough to control. Well played. Enjoyed the commentary as always!
My favourite sentence from Winter is "xy has less workers than xy started with"
41:13 All the maps really are made by Terrans, aka hoomans. It's a Terran game. They let the Zerg grow for sport, but they always hatch angry and try to spread creep to create a habitat. And clearly the Protoss get yanked through time and space onto our plane of existence for the same reason, shouting their mouthless cries the whole time. Probably why it's always so satisfying to watch Terrans lose.
Every time I get back into rts, I cry a little, knowing I missed the heyday of aoe2,sc, and sc2. Even though I was playing aoe2 back in the heyday, rural internet at the time kept me from being able to play online.
Game 3 Dark called in the Ghost-Busters.
SPOILER SHIELD
You are the best at describing Darks treacherous playstyle😂 Love every second of it. I've been watching since the 1000 likes that Jimmy is required to get to be paid)
Keep up the good content
"Post-Youth, despite the more geriatric nature of its name, and those spectating" lmao
I've always noticed hearing WoW soundtracks in the background and always wondered if you play WoW or used to play WoW? Love the videos man
Hey Winter. You seem to not understand the difference between "either" and "both".
If units are coming in from two sides at the same time, they are coming in from both sides.
If units can choose which side to come in from, they can come from either side.
But you cannot have units coming in from either side at once. They are coming in from both sides at once.
"you can have either x or y but not both"
See? Either refers to individual things, not multiple things like both does.
Byun does obligatory Hellbat push, Winter has just given up pointing them out.
18:30 LMFAOOOO as a Terran main. I approve this message/picture.
God damn is that funny
Schwifty five!? I knew I liked this guy for a reason.
This metal pipe ambience was great 😂 43:33
Has the council ever tought to give zergs a drone resources pick rate buff of 10, 15 or 20% and see how it works?
rip protoss?
At what point do marines beat roaches cost per cost and supply per supply?
i dont know if im comfortable with how easily that reaper pressure destroyed Dark
I would like to see Serral and Maru recent final...
Do the marines or other killed units by Siegetanks count toward the total resources lost for the opponents?
Building nothing but reapers to win a game. So much skill. I couldve played that. Byuns certainly doesnt get any better with age.
Yes!! Winter casting SC2 GOATED. Jimmy, my day is so much better😮🎉
The noob friendliness of terran doesnt fail to amaze.
This is Really Scary.
I DONT GET THE PROTOSS MEME JOKE , open door closed door? what?
where did you get the invisible water bottle 20:27
Green on a green screen
Thanks WinterStarcraft
I've had a fun day watching history documentaries and having lovely conversations with wonderful people on the internet about religion. This is exactly what I needed before bed. I can't wait to see how Byun handles the number 1 player ranked by Dark.
I never understand why NOT Pro Terran just use HELLBAT + Medic + Marine >.>
What do the hellbats bring to the table? Banes wreck them and mobility is greatly reduced
You waste a factory building a unit that brings pretty much nothing
Actually the hellbats melt zerlings even in high quantities the problem is that they stop working when hydras or roaches appear
@@DrkCarbalt seems like they stop working when queens appear 99% of the time.
30:44 "You don't get a compliment for doing your job". Tell that in my office. They give compliments to everyone, therefore, to no one.
So much damage from Dark!
A wild Jennifer appears! What a treat...
변현재 레츠고!!!!
Dark vs Byun the meta of entertainment 🤣
Game 3 was INSANE. I wont even whine about terrans under this video coz of that
now thats a strat
Should reapers have a cool down on their jumps or something?
Or maybe give them energy that they have to spend on either grenades or jumping.
No, that's unnecessary. Build units instead of greedy expanding.
Simply the best.
I don`t get the meme with ash and the four doors...
Protoss 4 gates. ok ok I get it now! xD
Love you dark!
Thank You
Om nom nom
One of the queens need to be named GLADYS
I don't understand why terran don't always all in with reapers...I find that terran and protoss early game is so oppressive compare to zerg. You have the squishiest bug zergling vs Marine who can easily shoot you from a distance or reaper that can move back and shoot you can move back and keep kiting and jump over cliff and regenerate .,...and I would have lost 100% and way before dark. I don't know how you are suppose to counter this except hope that the Terran makes a mistake and get caught somewhere or stop microing and goes back to their natural and then you jump on them...when they are not looking. It seems to me that the only way to win when you play zerg is to be just outright better at microing and being fast....if you are not, you will lose 100% of the time. And even when Zerg wins, 90% of the time, Zerg have lost 10,000+ ressource often 100+ units...you have to be so calm and collected not to panic when losing so many unit and still thinking well I got this. Also Both Terran and Protoss are able to harass by air so easily and Zerg I find as such a difficult time responding to air harass.
yet Zerg has the biggest win rate in every bracket and competitive play
keep up the great vids.
How did he know I already liked and subscribed?! monkaS
Byunn >dark . Gotta love it
Sauron zerg
You have to play Sc2 for 5 Years before you can even start playing the Game
I don't understand why Byun keeps playing this losing style...
He really only loses to dark. Lol
@@richardwhite6062 Yeah, Byun offensive style leaves zero defense at home. So if you catch him across the map , like the lurker drop, nydus tunnel, you got him.
@@cloudsmith7803 you make it sound so simple.
Even making it to lair tech is a challenge
I countered zerg with reapers.
REAPER RUSH W!!!
Rock, paper, scissors…
Oh man he doesn't know how to pronounce caduceus
In a shocking turn of events here we see... oh no nevermind, its just byun, he micros some marines and reapers, then loses again. No need to watch these games.
skip to end, zerg won => skip video
Just wanna say Terran are straight op, they can essentially say fuck comp and just bioball everything. Colossus more bioball avoid high ground chokes. Anything zerg just bioball stimulate and push.
The highest dps/area in the game -- they fire constantly, never miss and never reload.
And you would be wrong. Is that why Dark beats him 3-1?
Because a top pro player just use op terran and lose?
@@cloudsmith7803 Are you saying that the top terran is ineffective even with a host of overpowered units?
I would compliment you on your casting... but you don't get compliments for doing your job. 😉😁
My god it's boring watching medivacs. One click solution for playing poorly.
Why is this title so clickbaity?
Shfiffty five 😂
Thanks you for the content, sir!🫡🫡