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The episodes which these clşps are from:
5x01
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5x05
5x06
5x09
5x10
5x15
5x16
5x17
5x18
5x21
5x23
And 6x18
-You have failed this city
-Not as badly as you have Mr Queen
Prometheus and Zoom were the highlight of villains in the CW
Both were very brutal.
@@jakubwaasand evil af
I totally agree with you!
Prometheus is the best villian in the show. Every scene he appears is eppic
Prometheus is very intelligent and brutal like him but zoom’s just not as smart as prometheus
Promethus the only character with a mask that actually hides his identity. I mean the amount of times oliver is standing next to someone he knows and for some reason the don't automatically recognise his face or voice which is why chase was the best even his alter ego was fake and he constantly changed his voice modulator to make it harder to figure out who he was that's why I like him.
You can say the same about Superman, Supergirl, and Flash. Superman & Supergirl just wears glasses for a secret identity, and Bar he just wears a mask. But no one suspects their identities cause itd be to obvious for them
It's joke bro chill
@@Ac-hm2wt zoom, reign, Prometheus are the best villians of the arrowverse!
does anyone know what material is prometheus's mask made of???
Dark Archer, Deathstroke and Prometheus were the best villains of the show
And nyssa
@@nonhlanhlamahlangu3882 Nyssa was an ally, not a Big Bad
Plus Ras’
Facts don't forget ra's
Why arrow be taking deathstroke and ras al guhl
Prometheus was such an incredible and memorable villain.
Up there with Malcom Merlin, Reverse-Flash, Captain Cold, Lex Luthor, Deathstroke and Zoom
Honestly, to me he was just discount Merlyn. I was really disappointed with this villian (though not nearly as much as I was with Ricardo Diaz in Season 6/7)
I loved his theme though.
@@Hei_Darkfire - Just out of curiosity, did you watch season 5 as it was going on, or did you binge it?
And had his identity been spoiled to you yet?
To each their own of course, but I tend to notice that people who didn't like Prometheus tended to be "late" fans who perhaps expected to much from him, since he's consistently ranked in the top 3 Arrowverse Big Bads (often alongside Reverse Flash and Deathstroke ).
Plus, season 5 came after 4 which was a huge disappointment for the fanbase, so we were maybe over-enthusiastic with him.
I was a bit sad at first, because I'm one of the few who actually really likes Prometheus in the comics, so I wanted him to be more faithful to his usual self... I was disappointed later on when they showed early versions of his mask/helmet that looked more like his comic's one, and that then went with the one that didn't even have a single nod to his regular mask.
Oh well, I liked Prometheus, even if I was rooting for Vigilante during their little scuffle...
@@randallflagg3700 I am a later fan of the series (I binged it after the series ended). So don't worry about spoilers, I've seen it all, including the crossovers.
Prometheus's concept wasn't that bad. I don't know about the comics, and honestly I don't really care that much about the comics. I don't mind new versions of characters as long as they're interesting like Malcolm Merlyn was. He had some good moments and all, and it made sense why he seemed like a discount Merlyn (Both were trained by League of Assassins members). But I wasn't really a big fan of the character later on. To me, the whole revenge plots and Oliver's past coming back to haunt him had gotten pretty tiring at that point, which may be one of the reasons I wasn't too fond of him.
But I will say that his theme is one of my favorite in the series, and his menacing presence was pretty well done. I actually wanted to like Prometheus after Season 4 (I could not stand Damien Darhk in Season 4 because it just didn't seem like it was going to be feasible for Oliver to ever beat him, and I was write because they had to write plot hax for Oliver to win). I was so happy to see a better fitting villain for the series, but eventually I got a little annoyed when it turned out to be another revenge story (I liked Slade's revenge story in season 2, but I guess maybe I was hoping for something a bit more unique for Prometheus). I think I was just hoping for more, and got a little let down.
I did sorta like Season 5's concepts. For example, I know everyone hates that they added more heroes and expanded the roster, but honestly I liked the people that joined. I thought Rene and Curtis especially were great additions (I just loved some of the interactions they had with the others and with each other).
@@Hei_Darkfire - Well I can't say I don't understand your reasoning, when Prometheus kept saying that this was about "so much more than revenge" and in the end it was all about revenge, I was a bit let down.
I know you don't care about comics, but Malcolm Merlyn was a case where I thought (well, it's not exactly an unpopular opinion) that *Arrow* improved on the usual Dark Archer.
(And unlike other Big Bads that were bled to death by the showrunners, like Reverse Flash, they at least took him out of the game when he was still liked by the audience.)
The season 1 "game" was to guess which Merlyn it was going to be, Malcolm or Tommy
(both have been the Dark Archer in comics).
I also enjoyed the expanded cast in season 5, Mad Dog in particular was great, even if in season 6 he started to annoy me as times.
Dinah was cool, wish her thing with Vigilante lasted longer, and that Vigilante lasted longer in general, at least until the end of season 6.
Curtis, well, I might have liked him more had I not been a fan of Mr Terrific already, of which the Arrowverse one is a pretty bad representation...
Season 5 also had a nice cast of villains, and it was nice to watch them also fight each others, with Prometheus taking on Tobias Church and his gang (I just wish he woud have been Tobias Whale, but then we wouldn't have gotten *Black Lightning* , so...) and Vigilante.
Still, it's the Arrowverse, I like it a lot but my expectations are constantly tempered, so when something is really really good, like the *Elseworld* crossover (still my favorite to this day), the Arrow season 7 prison arc, Lex Luthor in *Supergirl* season 4 and later, or much later both *Superman & Lois* & *Stargirl* , it's an even better surprise.
Let's hope they don't waste Diggle's potential, I still want to see him as a Green Lantern some day...
Long days and pleasant nights, Sai Darkfire
@@randallflagg3700 Yeah, I liked Malcolm and was a bit sad when he died. But thinking about it now, it was good that they ended it where they did because it did feel like Malcolm had a pretty complete story arc around his character.
Dinah's addition to the story was pretty good as well. I did like what they did with her. And Vigilante was not a bad character. Kind of wish he'd been more of a villain of his own season though. Maybe having it where he and Arrow spend the season arguing about methods and end the seasons with him and Arrow fighting each other for a final showdown.
I also hope that they don't waste Diggle's potential. I really like his character and still hope he will get his own series one day, whether it's the Green lantern series, or the Young Justice style series he's been rumored to be a part of (Or something like heading a younger generation hero team).
Thats season had some of the best hand to hand fight ive seen
Prometheus OWNED Oliver and Team Arrow that ENTIRE season!!!!
Too bad Malcolm wasn't apart of it in season 5. It wouldn't have lasted as long as it did if he interwened sooner
Prometheus was the only villain who could truly break Oliver.
And it broke a big part of Oliver. Lian You brought Oliver several psychological problems, such as Thea in a coma, Diggle injured and whether he wanted to or not, William, who had to adapt to Oliver, who henever had emotional ties.
@@geekheroico3225 he is originally a batman villain
and slade lol
All of them broke Oliver.
Merlyn is directly responsible for his 5 years in hell by sinking the boat which leat to his father's suicide. He beat him so bad that he lost faith in himself and was nearly killed by Firefly. He later would be responsible for Tommy's death which made Oliver swear to stop killing. He also made Thea kill Sara Lance.
Deathstroke shattered Roy, killed Moira, and depressed Oliver to the point he nearly sacrificed himself to Slade.
Ra's al Ghul killed Oliver for all intents and purposes. He nearly killed Thea, forced Roy to fake his death, and nearly made Oliver the new Ra's al Ghul.
Damien Darhk crippled Felcitiy, killed Laurel and blew up Havenrock.
Prometheus made Oliver kill Felcity's boyfriend, made him admit he is a monster, and killed his baby mother.
Richard Diaz got Oliver sent to prison. He killed Quentin Lance and took over Star City for a bit.
Emiko Queen did less than the others. She could have saved Robert and Oliver from the Queen's Gambit but didn't. She also tricked Oliver and betrayed him after he started treating her like family.
Anti-Monitor killed Oliver twice.
Seeing Segura in She-Hulk has made me really wanna go back to season five of Arrow, he was just so good as Chase/Prometheus, definitely a favorite of mine, season 5 was fresh but nostalgic and really good
Crazy how he went from that to being a wasted side character in she hulk
@@raheemgilliam2224 wasted? Eh I guess, he was just a cute side character, I don’t really think his character was meant for much more
@@jhonandrews2674 yeah wasted is a bad word just think that he could’ve been used better he’s a pretty good actor
@@raheemgilliam2224 yea I agree, I just don’t think this role was meant for that
@@raheemgilliam2224 No wasted is the RIGHT word. Such a great actor wasted to a comedic side character.
his soundtrack gives me the chills
Prometheus and Zoom are memorable Arrowverse villains. I enjoy both Josh Segarra's and Teddy Sears's respective performances. Still, part of me would have liked to have seen Michael Dorn as full-on Prometheus and Tony Todd as full-on Zoom. Incidentally, both actors played Klingon characters in _Star Trek: the Next Generation._ That fact plus hearing Michael Dorn voicing Prometheus ➡️ season 5 was _Arrow's_ warrior season, truly glorious.
YO PROMETHEUS WAS A BOSS ON ARROW HANDS DOWN FR THE VOICE WAS AWESOME 🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏🔥🔥🙏🔥🔥🙏
His appearance in season 6 was my favorite part of that season. Not taking a shot at the season, I just love Prometheus that much. He’s my favorite Arrow villain. After him it’s probably Wintergreen from the first season ( and briefly season 8)
In my opinion him and zoom were the best fucking cw villains ever they knew the assignment and did it well
Zoom and Prometheus sagas were the golden age of flash and arrow!
My boy shot like 15 shots out of that revolver without having to reload, I gotta get me one of those
Prometheus: I’m going to show you that are you nothing but a killer
Also Prometheus: ruthlessly goes on a killing spree
I’m telling you Prometheus is my favorite arrow villain and I’m surprised that Stephen Amell’s favorite villain in the show is Prometheus as well. I really wish I could get a cosplay of it
Honeslty Prometheus is my favorite Arrow villian as he was the one that broke Oliver
This video brings back so many fond memories. I fucking love this show. Def the best villain in the entire show
my favortie arrow villian.
I realize that now but, if Malcom Merlyn is like Eobard Thawne, Simon Morrison is like Hunter Zolomon.
For the first two, they both created the hero (Green Arrow as of Merlyn, Flash as of Thawne) and are "reverse" of what they are, while as of Prometheus and Zoom, they both break the same hero to the point their actions changed them for the worst (Prometheus broke Oliver to the point he made him admitted that he liked to kill and proved his points many times, Zoom broke Barry to the point that he made him create Flashpoint, changing everyone's lives)
Hell that's an intersting fact
i wish they could have used him in season 8 as some type of secondary villain or main villain except that crossover would ve been nice
He did such a good job they had him come back to be green arrow on black sirens earth
3:06 IDC how sharp that throwing star was...there is no effing way it cut through an arrow at full velocity after being thrown from a human wrist
That 6x18 was the piece of the cake to make Prometheus truly olivers greatest Enemy. Like sherlock & Moriarty from "sherlock".
Or Batman and Joker from batman arkham knight
Best villain of the show
Yeah
This was an Absolutely Amazing Masterpiece Video for My All Time Favorite Antagonist’s in Arrow.
Now that right here. Best Villian yet. Wonder if Vigilante is up on the payroll next? 😃
Actually haven't thought about making one for Vincent, maybe down the line I will. I have a few new videos coming up tho, at least 2 of them in the next coming days!
@@rafaelridolph YES!!! 😃
@@jaredconley808 CORRECTION, I got at least 7 videos scheduled from tomorrow through the week, so stay tuned!
@@rafaelridolph DUDE!!! I’m gonna watch them all I can’t handle the excitement! 😃
@@jaredconley808 - Vigilante definitely had some great fighting scenes, my favorite was when he had his rematch with Oliver in season 6, in the Bertinelli hangar on the docks...
It looked less "choreographed" than their S5 fight in the bank, and more brutal too.
It's a shame he died so quickly, I would have loved to see Vij' last at least until the end of season 6.
Maybe have a nice fight with Ricardo Diaz?
Prometheus was a good villain but it's kind of hard to believe that he would give Oliver a hard time in a fight. Oliver wrecked Ra's al Ghul and Prometheus was trained by Thalia who was inferior to Ra's al Ghul
Two of them are suppose to be of roughly equal skill, with Prometheus only real advantage being that he planned most of his moves for years, so he was always couple of steps ahead of Oliver.
However, power inconsistency has always been huge issue with "Arrowverse", because at some point we are suppose to believe Thea Queen could beat Oliver in a fight, and poor Flash fights guys like Reverse Flash and Savitar, then gets sucker punched by... Peek-a-Boo?
@@njmfff Chase would have lost every fights if he didn't get help for the ones he won. Oliver was clearly superior.
@@njmfff I mean he beat Ras in a 1v1 sword fight no hand to hand or anything.
Still he should be beating him but he also did it eventiully.
Couse Oliver has like 10 years of experince and Chase has only 4.
But Oliver mostly fights with him bare handed and his arrow, and Chase has much more weaponry.
And every time they fight they are either interupted or one of them has to run away for a reanson.
And Oliver obviously doesn't want to kill him, and just handcuffing him isn't easy.
Like he tried to shoot him with those cables to sustain him like he did with Slade in seanson 2 at the end, but Chase cought him.
Most of Oliver's wins over the villains came by killing them in 1v1 Malcolm Dark Ras, but he didn't wanted to kill him.
So in an arrow form where he doesn't allow himself also to kill puts him in a far disadvantages situation, he is still often got the better of the fights like 60-40% aside when he got ambused by Talia and things like that.
Especially in the final fight where was no further plan and they weren't interupted and Chase only had 1 sword and Oliver had 1 arrow he kicked his ass pretty much didn't took any significant damage and cought chase who later escaped but still
That’s what’s annoying about CW shows. Like there’s no way prometheus should be keeping up with Oliver. Even Ricardo Diaz was keeping up with him.
@@Nana-hy6zt I mean Chase had 4 years training under Talia.
Malcolm spent 2 years in the League and he was able to beat Oliver many times, until he kina leveled up a bit.
But Chase also uses 2 weapons and not one, so he got a big advantage to close the experience gap.
He still couldn't beat Oliver in a fair 1v1 just hanging there until something interupts them or something.
At the end in a 1v1 with 1-1 weapons nobady coming inbetween them Oliver beat him up
adrain Chase aka Prometheus Awesome Villain in The Arrow
Ohhh shit I love this guy
EL BESTO VILLANO DE TODO EL ARROWVERSE
I agree he is The best villain of Arrow
@@gokuultraflash7289 verse
He's in my top 5 for sure.
Alongside Reverse Flash, Deathstroke, Lex Luthor and Zoom...
... I mean, there are so many shows like *Stargirl* , *Superman & Lois* or *Black Lightning* that have tenuous links to the Arrowverse... like, do we count *Constantine* season 1?
Because all those shows had/have great Big Bads too, but...
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 - His show was retroactively added to the Arrowverse though, like *Supergirl* season 1 which was also on the CBS.
The proof is right there =>
"Wendy Mericle said,
In terms of whether we should assume that this is firmly considered the same version of Constantine from his own series (and thus retroactively linking the Constantine series to the Arrow-verse), Mericle said, “Absolutely. He is coming in fully as who he was on the show. We’re getting wardrobe. We’re very excited to have him. He’s a tremendous actor. It’s so cool to have that cross-pollination. We are very lucky and DC was very generous letting us have him.”
It's a lot like "The Flash (1990)" who showed up in the crossover *Elseworlds* , and the Earth on which that show took place was called Earth-90
I guess the Anti-Monitor "fixed" that, though...
no, el segundo besto, merlyn es mas bueno que prometheous.
4:50 "I told you, Oliver... everything you touch DIES!"
They're treating Prometheus like he's Deathstroke, plus Deadshot, he's more like Marvels Taskmaster, by way of The Intersect from the TV show Chuck.
OMG Thanks Man Another Spectacular Video Well Done
Thanks!
The person who made this video loves this character as much as I love him! The best villian in the show
best villain ever in arrow
Green Arrow is a goated series
Prometheus is the zoom of the aarow
It was ridiculous how his secret identity was revealed. He just takes off his mask then makes a phone call on a payphone.
It should have been a better reveal.
Probably would've been better reveal when Talia told Oliver that Prometheus was Adrian Chase. The moment Oliver knew the whole fandom knew.
It was on purpose. They use the reveal to build up tension in the story.
It's like that metaphor: If you have a scene in a Baseball Stadium, but then you show a bomb just below the stadium, all your audience is gonna be worried. You just rised the tension and the relevance of everything that is happening on screen, because now everyone is expecting an explosion.
Prometheus did it most likely on porpose to get caught. To get olivers team for lian yu.
the reason they did it like that was because most comic book fans thought that Vigilante was Adrian Chase (like in the comics) so when he took the mask off it was crazy for the fans. i remember blowing a gasket
Wow nice arrow
Cool vilian
God we need an Arrow game based off the Arrowverse SO bad. Imagine this on PS5 or Xbox
J'adore ❤
Best villian ever
They legit turned Ollie into Batman in this and stole his villains, bruh.
Did you upload this cause arrow premiered 10 years ago today.
It was a damn good coincidence!
I liked Prometheus as a villain but I wished that Arrow would stop making Oliver’s “sins” a story line. Like the amount of times Oliver had to atone made watching the show tedious. Like the whole reason for Prometheus trying to destroy Oliver was because Arrow killed his dad who was a very bad man himself. Like I would’ve liked to have seen Oliver stand his ground more and be the actual protagonist of the show instead of being the punching bag for every other character. Like how many times this man gotta save someone’s life in an impossible situation only for someone to tell him there was another way they themselves couldn’t think of. Couple that with the fact that the show spent more time trying to make Felicity right in most aspects even though she was wrong in every situation, and this show went from great to very repetitive
Season 5 actually made thematic sense, because S3 and S4 were somewhat poorly received and dropped in ratings, so they decided to "go back to the roots" which is why we got someone who's very similar to Dark Archer and even editing and fight scenes were closer to S1 then dull, lifeless action scenes in S3-4. I remember watching S3 finale and being stunned how much Felicity yapping about her feelings took screentime from, you know, wrapping up season's plot. Like I wanna watch Green Arrow fights Ra's Al Ghul, not Felicity repetitively talking about her feelings.
I haven’t seen seasons 6-8, (nor season four) so I like to imagine this was the end, and Ollie just had to raise his son after everyone else he loves died on the island.
That's your opinion but I would rather see Oliver raising his son and his team survived. I may sound like I am defending Season 6 but I am really not.
As Season 5 ended, it was time to go back into its soap opera mode and I wanted closure to that cliffhanger, that's all.
The theme is terrifying
Goodness I hated him so much but he was so good
Man, his costume looks very different from the comics.
VAS Y ARROW T ES LE MEILLEUR 😉biz de Belgique 🇧🇪
10:58 20rounds revolver
Dude how the fuck is promethious this damn strong he literally looks about the same size as Green Arrow just slightly bigger and more armor but what I wanna know is how is this version of promethious and Batmans copy Promithious have the same name yet look so different unless there the same person but altered somehow like Zack Sniders version or something
How many shots does that 6 shot have🤣🤣
03:37 - "Why would he...?"
To show the same move Talia taught Oliver, to manipulate him into going for her through that connection
Damn, so he pulled a Slade on schmeen arrow 😂😂
Did anyone noticed that one of the voices was Micheal Dorn aka Worf from Star Trek TNG
11:40
Deathstroke Prometheus and Richard Diaz were the best villains of the show
I hate how they nerfed Oliver so much in season 5
Prometheus carried tf out of season 5. Should've had him for more than one season
Boy heard "I have two children" and was like no, no fuck kids
Godspeed please
I will make one for him too!!
@@rafaelridolph it’ll
Be nice if u could do 1 for zoom too at some point in the future 👍🏾.
@@a.r.2900 I'm on the final strech of editing Season 4. As soon as I get to the Flash's 100th episode, It will be out!
@@rafaelridolph Zoom?
@@zoom8408 👀
Such a great actor being wasted by she hulk shitshow
It's funny how people say prometheus broke oliver. It did not he knew he was a monster and admitted it every time. He never declined and accepted the fact that he has to kill sometimes and i don't know why is that wrong. Also he didn't killed anyone for pleasure. On the other hand prometheus was just a psychopath and psychopaths needs an obsession to attach themselves. People say prometheus made oliver to accept that he liked killing but i think it oliver was captured for too long and was not in his right mind and wanted to say anything that could set him free.
3:48 ayooo 😳
Do one with Vigilante/Vincent Sobel
I wish Merlyn would have fought him at some point. 2 dark suited villains going at it with an arrow-sword combo would be a great showdown.
By the way team arrow should have called Merlyn sooner in the seanson not just at the end, he got too little screentime in this seanson especially.
In seanson 2 he got barely any in S3 he got pretty good amount in seanson 4 he was in the backseat again had some moments but not enough and in this seanson he showed up for like the last 2 episodes man it was so sad
Menace to starr city
Who was that guy in the mask who caught the arrow protecting church
Scimitar, an armoured assassin Church hired to protect himself and to kill Oliver.
That guy was a badass, but he was kind of a recurring joke in the Arrow fanbase... Long story short, before this episode aired, Wendy Mericle
(a regular writer/producer for the 5 first seasons of *Arrow* )
told us (in a featurette) that the fans were going to be excited when they see Scimitar, because he's a big DC character and all, and we would immediately recognize him, etc
Then the episode came out, and everyone was confused, "this bodyguard was badass, but wait who the hell was he supposed to be? Weren't we supposed to go nuts when we'll recognize him? Anyone knows?"
Turned out, Wendy Mericle made a mistake, and a common theory is she was actually thinking of a Marvel character named Scimitar...
Please video with Black Siren🙌🙏and Ricardo Diaz.
I will!!
@3:20 Prometheus went straight for the 69 attack
Lmao
11:04 how many bullets does that revolved have 😂
I thought Prometheus was a Batman villain
This is an original character with the same name
I only see Pug from She Hulk.
Adrian Chase at 9:35 seconds Adrian: never say never Oliver: i didn't know you were a Justin Bieber fan Adrian. Adrian: huh i'm not wtf what the fuck me: hahahaha hehehe 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
how did that revolver shoot like 10 shots lmao
Do one with KGBeast/Anatoly Knyazev too please
i don't like how oliver beat Ras but had such a hard time fighting prometheus. I think prometheus should of been a smarter more calculated villain on top of being really good at fighting. not just outright beating oliver.
Right that doesn’t make sense like ras literally trained Batman
What yall are missing is the fact that Oliver got his ass beat by random street thugs 😂. It would make sense if promethius being trained by ras daughter was able to beat Oliver or match him but random drug dealers knocking down Oliver and even un some cases easily is just insane this show is so unstable 😂
um in none of these exchanges did prometheus actually manage to beat him ....in fact oliver brutalized him in the final fight and s5 ep 16
Tbh if you re-watch S5 you can see that Prometheus never really beat Oliver in h2h combat. They were pretty equal for the most part. I would even say that Oliver was more skilled, BUT he was holding back, because he didn't want to kill Chase - that was the whole motive Chase had, to prove Oliver that he is indeed a killer. We also saw Prometheus outsmart Oliver multiple times and not only relying on his fighting skills.
10:59 my man got the none reloadable bullets
I wanna see a fight between Diaz and Prometheus. No weapons only hand to hand combat. See who's the biggest pain in Oliver Queen's ass.
I feel like if he can beat Raz in season 3 Oliver should be able to defeat anyone.
Is that Michael Dorn's voice?
Yeah
realistically they would've just called barry to swoop in during a fight and hogtie his ass with meta cuffs even though he aint meta
Do Martian Manhunter from Supergirl next
I'll only make one for his crossover appearances and it'll take me some time.
@@rafaelridolph Can you make it tomorrow?
@@malikmccallum1077 I'm making them chronologically, so it will probably be out around December unfortunately
Is it meant to be a illusion?or did they really pull the "revolver has a 15 round mag"?
Adrian Chase, the poor's man Christian Bale.
8:33 what is he using to choke that guy? Also where is the blood coming from?
When do you have had 20 bullets in a revolver
11:05 he had infinity ammo.... lol come reload the bullets
That was Oliver on drugs 😂
Adrian Chase is dead in season 6.
Music tho 😂
What about season 8??
That is a different character, he's not Prometheus there. But I'll make a video on him later!
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I actually hated this guy because the only people he was able to defeat was the untrained.
How revolver shoot 28 times?
Hallucination
everyone thinks he's the best vilains of GÂ
a agree with good story and dark scene about him
but he's suck , he's been trainning just 2 years with Nyass
honestly Oliver was reached Ra's level about fighting skill
Oliver could beat this guy in somesteps easily, but it took him for the whole ss, that's why to me he's suck
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