I've owned every Japanese make and when it comes to the best overall balance and quality nothing beats a new Yamaha. that's not to say that each brand doesn't have an edge in at least one area, but as far as the complete package goes I've gotta hand it to team blue.
I've been enjoying your vids for a while now, thanks for what you're doing. I've had my white 19 for a little over 2 months now and have been racing several times on it. Getting more and more comfortable on it in the choppy square edged bumps as it is a bit stiff in the mid stroke but overall this thing is great. I like having two maps available on the fly. Great review man.
It's all about cost and weight, the day that riders stopped demanding kickstarters was the day that manufacturers were more than happy to shave cost and weight. My opinion is that all bikes that are dirt capable need E and Kick starters. It's a safety issue. At least that is what I would tell them.
Greco, I don't believe so. That was just an update for the 450. Since this is a first year bike, i'm sure we'll see some minor improvements next year just like we saw with the 450. Glad you enjoyed the review!-Chase
Quite a bit late on this but you stated it maybe improving the front end steering aspect. Was it better in that area? As a mountain bike racer, I always much more enjoyed a front end steered bike. Went and sat on a bunch of 2020 bikes and came down to feeling the most comfortable on this and the KTM. Unsure where exactly to go with it as both felt great in riding triangle but don't really know which route to turn towards as they're both super different in chassis I'm sure.
The Yamaha has a really good balanced feel. I've never had any problems with the front end giving good feedback and front end feel. The KTM is very close to this. The best cornering 250, or any four stroke, in my opinion is the CRF250R.- Chase
As always, excellent review. Do you think a 6' 205 pound rider w/o gear will feel comfortable on this bike? Or do you think the bike can handle the rider?
Vegas Romaniac is about your size and he loves his 2018 yz250f. Pretty much the same bike. You can also adjust rider cockpit a little bit on these. Different positions to choose from for where the bar mounts bolt to the top triple clamp. Also depends what type of riding you do and ypur riding style/experience level. Might want more power. 450f has better resale and engine lasts longer, but theyre heavy.
@@sciencemilitia1853 - yeah Vegas is tall but weights 20 - 30 pounds lighter then me. I was on the fence about the 450 vs 250. The 450 engine last longer? Wow didn't know that, awesome! I like how the 450 has enough power that you can detune with the app, versus getting a big bore if you get bored with the 250 power. Seems their is a 10 pound weight difference between the 2, I wonder how that really translates to the track/trails?
@@Marvelfunfaqs Yeah the 450 will not have to work as hard. They last at least twice as long. More if you detune it so that it cant physically work as hard even when you pin it. And 10 Lbs is vaguely noticeable on the track and trails. Id get a wr450f. The yz450f and yz450fx only have electric start. Wr is kick and electric start. Helps a lot when its cold and the electeic starter cant spin the engine fast enough to start the bike. You can also kick start it if the electric start system is dead or broken.
ISLAND RIDERS DIRTBIKES the advice to go with a 450 is wrong. I started with a suzuki 450 and its got too much uncontrolable power. Only the top pro rider can use that power. The rest of us mortals just use the half of the power of a 450 and we r stuck with all the negatives of a 450. Yes its only 10lbs heavier but due to the inertia and spinning components of the motor it will feel much much heavier. Now with the 250 im faster and i dont tire as much.
im into trails and sort of gncc racing im moving to the b class nextyear should i get a 250x or yz 250f i like the agresive feel of the motocross but im keep getting refered to the 250x two stroke
Is 250 to much for a first ever bike? I have never set foot on motorbike before. I’ve been told to ideally look for a 150 4 stroke but by the sound of this 250 it is amazing for me.
Rocky Mountain ATV MC trails mainly Forrest area trails, MX trail as well. But really mainly i would ride down in the woods beside my house. I’ve looked at many other bikes as well.
Tom, I didn't get a ton of time on the previous model so I can't give a perfect answer, but from what i felt on the track, the stability was good. The track was rough and had some good braking bumps and chatter in high speed sections and I didn't feel the front end was nervous.-Chase
Yeah, 200 hundred pounds is definitely at the upper end of weight for a 250. But it also just depends on your skill level and type of riding that you do?-Chase
@@rmatvmc yeah, I guess I knew the answer. When I got back into MX after a looong time, I bought the bike I wanted, not the bike in probably should have bought (a 4-stroke). Thanks for the opinion!!
Just go a ride it! There is no real "break in" process for suspension. Just set your sag before you ride the first time and then check it again a few rides later after your shock has broken in. After that, you're good to go. Just make sure your changing your oil. I like to go about 20-25 hours between shock and fork oil changes. Believe, it makes a difference when you have fresh oil in there! Thanks for watching.-Chase
no. I've owned my ltz400 electric start quad for 5 years and pressure wash it regularly. Never had an issue with electronics. I try not to apply high pressure to power cables. That's the only precaution I take. They are designed to ride in rain/mud on the regular.
So someone tell me how well does it corner compared to honda? I'm 195lbs so like the yami engine curve better than honda but really like what I'm hearing about Honda's cornering. I like front end steering more which my 17 kx250f seems to fight me with some. Thanks guys.
Man, that's like splitting hairs on this one. But if I had to give the slight edge in cornering, I'd have to say Honda. Although, this Yamaha can easily steer with the front end. I'd give the slight, and I mean slight, cornering advantage to the Honda, but i'd still take the Yamaha with how good that motor is.-Chase
Yes, for a 195lbs rider, that bottom will be very important. If you watch our build we did for this bike, we share some MAPS that Keefer made that give it even more grunt down low.
This bike would be just fine for enduro. Just make sure you throw some good protection on there along with an 18 inch rear tire. We have a build coming out very soon with some really good products on that would be great for enduro. Your weight should be really close to the stock spring rates.-Chase
Haha! It's tits huh? I'd say that's a pretty good description. It is a very good package for sure. From what I hear, the Pro Circuit guys put one on the Dyno next to a built PC bike and the Kawi had barely more horse. That's a built race bike next to a stock motor!
Justin Verbonitz smoother power delivery with the 4 strokes allows pros to manipulate the bike slightly better than some of the more wheel spinney 2 strokes
I honestly don't think that is needed for this bike. If you want more bottom, I think it's easier to upload a new map. Kris keefer has some good maps you can get from his testing site that will add bottom and keep the good mid to top range. We recently filmed a build for this bike and his map did the trick.
@@rmatvmc you already know team green twomac take over lol thanks for a reply Rocky mountain atv I always watch ur tips an how to helps out alot keep it up
@@rmatvmc no I haven't this year's ganna be crazy Kenny's improving marvins hungry an baggets back an Eli's going for back to back should be a great exciting year
Hey I have a question I am looking to buy a new bike soon I am 5’5 approximately 120 pounds I used to ride a ttr 125 and I rode my friends cr 85 I and love it except the fact that it was a 2 stroke I like four strokes way better. What bike you recommend me getting next? I am looking to race and trail ride also.
Kaden, at your height and weight, I'd consider a 125. Might seem like a lot of bike at first, but you will grow into it and it will be very good for both racing and trails.
Rocky Mountain ATV MC I have been riding a 125 ttr for about 2 years I am 14 I should have said that in the first comment but if I get a 250 what should I get? Or like you said what 125 should I get?
Companies like KTM and Yamaha still make a 125 two stroke. Another bike that is very popular that could be a good fit is the Honda CRF230F. We have a video on one. It also really depends on your skill level. Are you a beginner or have you been riding for a while?
It's nothing short of amazing just how much science goes into developing a top quality dirtbike. Props to the designers and developers who stay on it.
Very true. It's a much bigger operation than people think. Thanks for watching! - Chase
I've owned every Japanese make and when it comes to the best overall balance and quality nothing beats a new Yamaha. that's not to say that each brand doesn't have an edge in at least one area, but as far as the complete package goes I've gotta hand it to team blue.
Well said. I wasn't a big fan of the pre 2018 450, but they've definitely stepped it up and they have two really good bikes now. Props to them-Chase
Yamaha 4 Life !!!
Picking up a 2020 friday !
I've been enjoying your vids for a while now, thanks for what you're doing. I've had my white 19 for a little over 2 months now and have been racing several times on it. Getting more and more comfortable on it in the choppy square edged bumps as it is a bit stiff in the mid stroke but overall this thing is great. I like having two maps available on the fly. Great review man.
Beautiful bike, I'm gonna get one of thoes
Pretty Impressed with the video with the good bike let’s see how good does with my meeting in the race this year
No Kickstarter? Great when the battery dies in the bush and there's no hills around
It's all about cost and weight, the day that riders stopped demanding kickstarters was the day that manufacturers were more than happy to shave cost and weight. My opinion is that all bikes that are dirt capable need E and Kick starters. It's a safety issue. At least that is what I would tell them.
womp womp swamp that's why they have a bike for the bush witch is the WR this bike so a MX bike
It’s an mx bike, get the damn 250fx if your gonna take it in “the bush”
@Martin Vojković don't you think I might have known what clutch starting a bike is when I mentioned no Hills in my comment
womp womp swamp uh, it’s a motocross bike, not a trail bike.
Blows up every ride
janet schaefer yeh no
indonesia love wr250f
I've rode at oca for years!!
It's a fun track-Chase
Thanks for the great review.
Did the axle lugs get the update the 450 did?
Greco, I don't believe so. That was just an update for the 450. Since this is a first year bike, i'm sure we'll see some minor improvements next year just like we saw with the 450. Glad you enjoyed the review!-Chase
Thanks for the reply
im waiting for the 2020 kxf250 if they put electric start and a hydraulic clutch
*Hawk Gamer* Our fingers are crossed!
yea going off there history of how they update the 450 then the 250 it should happen
Quite a bit late on this but you stated it maybe improving the front end steering aspect. Was it better in that area? As a mountain bike racer, I always much more enjoyed a front end steered bike. Went and sat on a bunch of 2020 bikes and came down to feeling the most comfortable on this and the KTM. Unsure where exactly to go with it as both felt great in riding triangle but don't really know which route to turn towards as they're both super different in chassis I'm sure.
The Yamaha has a really good balanced feel. I've never had any problems with the front end giving good feedback and front end feel. The KTM is very close to this. The best cornering 250, or any four stroke, in my opinion is the CRF250R.- Chase
I miss when bikes were 5k-6k brand new. Not 8k-9k before taxes and interest.
I think we all miss those days.
People don't think debt-based economy be how it is but it do. You will miss these days when the bikes are 12k-13k in 5-8 years.
You can still get a New 250f for 5 or 6 k
, Kawasaki Suzuki.
I just saw a Brand New 2019 KX250F listed on sale for $4995
OCA is a super fun track
*Nic* yes it is! Thanks for watching.
As always, excellent review. Do you think a 6' 205 pound rider w/o gear will feel comfortable on this bike? Or do you think the bike can handle the rider?
*ISLAND RIDERS DIRTBIKES* I'm sure it would suit the rider good, with the help of some suspension setting tweaks. Thanks for watching.
Vegas Romaniac is about your size and he loves his 2018 yz250f. Pretty much the same bike. You can also adjust rider cockpit a little bit on these. Different positions to choose from for where the bar mounts bolt to the top triple clamp. Also depends what type of riding you do and ypur riding style/experience level. Might want more power. 450f has better resale and engine lasts longer, but theyre heavy.
@@sciencemilitia1853 - yeah Vegas is tall but weights 20 - 30 pounds lighter then me. I was on the fence about the 450 vs 250. The 450 engine last longer? Wow didn't know that, awesome! I like how the 450 has enough power that you can detune with the app, versus getting a big bore if you get bored with the 250 power. Seems their is a 10 pound weight difference between the 2, I wonder how that really translates to the track/trails?
@@Marvelfunfaqs Yeah the 450 will not have to work as hard. They last at least twice as long. More if you detune it so that it cant physically work as hard even when you pin it. And 10 Lbs is vaguely noticeable on the track and trails. Id get a wr450f. The yz450f and yz450fx only have electric start. Wr is kick and electric start. Helps a lot when its cold and the electeic starter cant spin the engine fast enough to start the bike. You can also kick start it if the electric start system is dead or broken.
ISLAND RIDERS DIRTBIKES the advice to go with a 450 is wrong. I started with a suzuki 450 and its got too much uncontrolable power. Only the top pro rider can use that power. The rest of us mortals just use the half of the power of a 450 and we r stuck with all the negatives of a 450. Yes its only 10lbs heavier but due to the inertia and spinning components of the motor it will feel much much heavier. Now with the 250 im faster and i dont tire as much.
Do you think the bike would be to big for me I’m 5’6 and 160 pounds
No. You'd be just fine on this.
I wonder how this bike would feel compared to my 2012 version 😂
*Isaac Ribble* Noticeable difference. Fit, finish and more features. Maybe an upgrades instore? :)
Rocky Mountain ATV MC That’s awesome! I hope I get the opportunity to ride one someday.
I have an 06... how about that :D
Immuni Forte That’s awesome! Great bike.
I feel left out I’ve got an 04 450 :’(
im into trails and sort of gncc racing im moving to the b class nextyear should i get a 250x or yz 250f i like the agresive feel of the motocross but im keep getting refered to the 250x two stroke
I don’t need it 😒
I don’t need it 😞
I definitely don’t need it😔
IIII neeeedddd iiiiittttt
You neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed it! Give in haha.
Is 250 to much for a first ever bike? I have never set foot on motorbike before. I’ve been told to ideally look for a 150 4 stroke but by the sound of this 250 it is amazing for me.
If you've never set foot on a bike, then yes, this could quite a bit of power for you. What is your size and weight?-Chase
Rocky Mountain ATV MC I’m 5,11 220 pounds and 16 years old. Yes I’m big I know 😂
@@Mtthw. 16?!?!?! Holy Crap! I didn't ask before, but what kind of riding do you or will you be doing?
Rocky Mountain ATV MC trails mainly Forrest area trails, MX trail as well. But really mainly i would ride down in the woods beside my house. I’ve looked at many other bikes as well.
@@Mtthw. I think you'll be just fine on a 250F. It might seem like a lot of power initially, but that will go away as you improve your riding.
Why is the silencer always damaged on your testing videos?
iHarca the pipe comes out of the box dented.
iHarca it comes like that from the factory so when you land hard the tire doesn’t hit the silencer
do the handling improvements affect the stability? Has yamaha given up some stability to improve the front end feel?
Tom, I didn't get a ton of time on the previous model so I can't give a perfect answer, but from what i felt on the track, the stability was good. The track was rough and had some good braking bumps and chatter in high speed sections and I didn't feel the front end was nervous.-Chase
i have a 2014 rmz 250 and i feel like in rough sections and choppy landings the front end gets quite busy. Are there any fixes for this?
Tom Whicker tighten your steering stem
@@joshuaabraham7862 cheers will try that
What a fun track, Where is it?
This is the OCA track in Ogden, Utah. And yes, it is a blast! Thanks for watching!-Chase
top top top top
If I'm a 200 pounder riding a YZ250, what would a 250F feel like to me in terms of power? Am I just too big for this bike??
Yeah, 200 hundred pounds is definitely at the upper end of weight for a 250. But it also just depends on your skill level and type of riding that you do?-Chase
@@rmatvmc yeah, I guess I knew the answer. When I got back into MX after a looong time, I bought the bike I wanted, not the bike in probably should have bought (a 4-stroke). Thanks for the opinion!!
@@alienxyt Hey, ain't nothing wrong with mixing a little gas!
how do you break in the suspension? im getting a 2019 yz250f and its gonna be my first bike thats brand new
Just go a ride it! There is no real "break in" process for suspension. Just set your sag before you ride the first time and then check it again a few rides later after your shock has broken in. After that, you're good to go. Just make sure your changing your oil. I like to go about 20-25 hours between shock and fork oil changes. Believe, it makes a difference when you have fresh oil in there! Thanks for watching.-Chase
@@rmatvmc Thank you
hey guys, ive read that when you wash a dirtbike with electric start you have to unplug the battery. is this true?
no. I've owned my ltz400 electric start quad for 5 years and pressure wash it regularly. Never had an issue with electronics. I try not to apply high pressure to power cables. That's the only precaution I take. They are designed to ride in rain/mud on the regular.
How much cash yz250f
For real wold this be good for a 5.3foot person
Jacob H 73 maybe not I’m 5,7 and I sat on a kx250f and I was on my tippy toes
Is this at OCA?
yep
What's the intro song
So someone tell me how well does it corner compared to honda? I'm 195lbs so like the yami engine curve better than honda but really like what I'm hearing about Honda's cornering. I like front end steering more which my 17 kx250f seems to fight me with some. Thanks guys.
Man, that's like splitting hairs on this one. But if I had to give the slight edge in cornering, I'd have to say Honda. Although, this Yamaha can easily steer with the front end. I'd give the slight, and I mean slight, cornering advantage to the Honda, but i'd still take the Yamaha with how good that motor is.-Chase
@@rmatvmc haha thanks for the reply. Hearing it's that close for you I'd have to go yamaha since its stronger down low, help pull me around more lol.
Yes, for a 195lbs rider, that bottom will be very important. If you watch our build we did for this bike, we share some MAPS that Keefer made that give it even more grunt down low.
@@rmatvmc perfect, thanks
Good for Enduro type of riding? 5,5 170 lbs
This bike would be just fine for enduro. Just make sure you throw some good protection on there along with an 18 inch rear tire. We have a build coming out very soon with some really good products on that would be great for enduro. Your weight should be really close to the stock spring rates.-Chase
@@rmatvmc Thanks man look forward to the build you mention, subscribed!
Suzuki did their homework? How does this apply to a review to a Yamaha? ;)
Thanks for that heads up *George Loch!* You're the man.
All these new 250fs are damn near identical anyway lol
Why blue
"Big changes"
got one
How do you like it?
Rocky Mountain ATV MC love it best all around suspension and motor package I’ve ever had in a 250F. I like how it handles, And the app is tits.
Haha! It's tits huh? I'd say that's a pretty good description. It is a very good package for sure. From what I hear, the Pro Circuit guys put one on the Dyno next to a built PC bike and the Kawi had barely more horse. That's a built race bike next to a stock motor!
Yamaha will be handing out L's all year. That's just the first of many.
Honda /Kawasaki all da way
All this technology and it still cant hang with a 2 stroke.
really wish they would build a new 2 stroke engine with fuel injection. the 250 2 stroke has had the same engine going on 20 years..... smdh..
although it is still a great engine.
@@kdcustoms1272 My carbureted 250 2 strokes have never given me a reason to want EFI.
If two strokes were so great why did 4 strokes take over motocross and supercross
Justin Verbonitz smoother power delivery with the 4 strokes allows pros to manipulate the bike slightly better than some of the more wheel spinney 2 strokes
Where is this track at
This is the Ogden track in Utah. It's freaking rad!-Chase
Rocky Mountain ATV MC oh I’ve got to go there I thought the Jordan river OHV track was the only one around, good to know thanks.
Would be a lot cooler if it was a 2 stroke
Nah
You prolly couldn't ride a 2 stroke or even this bike punk
Cuanto cuesta una poderosa
Gear it down one tooth on the back..try that and let me know what you think about that..?
I honestly don't think that is needed for this bike. If you want more bottom, I think it's easier to upload a new map. Kris keefer has some good maps you can get from his testing site that will add bottom and keep the good mid to top range. We recently filmed a build for this bike and his map did the trick.
Bought this bike has 10 minutes on it, its el paso craigslist, i bought tested it, nothing happened to me or the bike, but this isnt for me lol
What didn't you like about it?
@@rmatvmc
Nothing wrong with bike its jus me lol
Hell yea Rocky mountain I have a 2016 kx450f probably blow that thing out of the water but I love your videos see you rmfantacysx
*blazin dubey* No comment :). Who you got for the W come *Monster Cup?*
@@rmatvmc you already know team green twomac take over lol thanks for a reply Rocky mountain atv I always watch ur tips an how to helps out alot keep it up
*blazin dubey* you're the man! We appreciate you. ..you haven't forgot about *Baggett* have you? ;)
@@rmatvmc no I haven't this year's ganna be crazy Kenny's improving marvins hungry an baggets back an Eli's going for back to back should be a great exciting year
Hey I have a question I am looking to buy a new bike soon I am 5’5 approximately 120 pounds I used to ride a ttr 125 and I rode my friends cr 85 I and love it except the fact that it was a 2 stroke I like four strokes way better. What bike you recommend me getting next? I am looking to race and trail ride also.
Kaden, at your height and weight, I'd consider a 125. Might seem like a lot of bike at first, but you will grow into it and it will be very good for both racing and trails.
Rocky Mountain ATV MC I have been riding a 125 ttr for about 2 years I am 14 I should have said that in the first comment but if I get a 250 what should I get? Or like you said what 125 should I get?
Kaden Sheard yz125 250 would be way to quick and powerful
Companies like KTM and Yamaha still make a 125 two stroke. Another bike that is very popular that could be a good fit is the Honda CRF230F. We have a video on one. It also really depends on your skill level. Are you a beginner or have you been riding for a while?
Greazy.Films I want a 4 stroke not a 2 I know a YZ250 has to much power
How tall are you?
I'm 5'7
Goes up past gear 3 Bang
No seat at all that's the reason I stopped ridding Yamaha back in 2004 and never went back.
They make aftermarket seats bro
The ‘19 YZ450 was just described as lethargic....uh no.
Haha. You agree or disagree? Or is it taboo to say anything slightly negative about it?-Chase
adjusting bikes with your phone.ffs gimme a throttle and an engine and turn the phone off
2 stroke frame
Pffffffff doesn’t even have double Exhaust pipe
Yeah, well, the Yamaha just cleaned house in all the shootouts so I don't think they're too worried about another pipe on this thing :)
Nah I’ll pass on this one
Shit bike doesn’t even start
Wifi, on a dirtbike fml
Good but uggley . Yamaha should turn that motor around for 2020..
This bike turns well, is balanced, and has the most power in class. Chances of them turning it back around are less than zero...IMO.