One of the greatest non-action film climaxes right here--Mozart finally finally meets someone who understands him (and with whom he could possibly become friends) and Salieri finally begins to understand Mozart. Their brief, mutual creativity is electrifying, and it makes the sense of loss at the end more tragic.
And Salieri helps to teach and raise Mozart's kids. I'm glad that they at least had a brief and mutual yet great connection when Mozart's time was coming to the end. Glad he had peace in the end and the rivalry was put behind everything.
According to the movie's version of history, Salieri actually got his prayer, to write beautiful music. But he was too egotistical to realize that he would actually do so, but as Mozart's scribe.
" So I am going to write a movie, I will have the best acting performances ever produced, amazing dialogues, historically accurate costumes, decor plus a unique and moving story" it will be a huge success for sure. " Yes indeed and who will write the soundtrack?" "Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart"
Actually, the costumes is the only failure the film has. The fabric used for the gowns is too thick, nearly carpet like. The silhouette is too loose on both the men and women, and the wigs are a travesty. But otherwise, a great film with great actors and great editing.
Thank god for music and a story like Mozart's. These are the only worthy remakes for films. Someone one, one day will tell this story in a more reflective and brilliant manner.
@@najaberthelsen That's actually quite brilliant. Imagine the amount of beautiful music there would have been composed by Mozart or Bizet if they have had artificially instruments. But quality is always more sacred than quantity so they went down the long road.
You look at him sweating in that bed and think "My god, just a course of intravenous antibiotics would probably clear up whatever he had." The absence of modern medicine took so many geniuses in their prime.
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@@ajsouza3720 Mozart actually knew him when Beethoven was around 15 years old... but even if Mozart would have reached an older age, giving the facts that Beethoven as an adult was deaf and almost a recluse there wouldn't have been much interaction at all...
I believe around 1782 is when Mozart started to become incredible. He has some great pieces before then but it was in the 1780’s and the 1790’s when he composed his best and most revolutionary music
This man had the entire thing in his head. From every single instrument, he knew what each was going to sound like and then so. The man died too soon just like some other great composers and musicians out there.
While often mythicized this way, Mozarts own notes reveal that he composed the way most did with a melody first and then he would revise the other voices and orchestration in sections. He was a genius, just not a magician
@@jeffreyval9665 they do, its just they let their personal agendas and opinions get in the way of good story telling and film making. never again though will we see films like this made
Musical ability far beyond what 99.9% of us could hope to comprehend, and acting that danced on the edge of perfection. I've seen nothing else that matches this 6 and a half minutes of cinema in my 60 years.
This is so powerful. Salieri sets his jealousy and ego aside, and scores the dying genius's music. He is open and honest: "I don't understand!" But he is determined to score the music, before it is too late, to catch "the voice of God" "whispering in Mozart's ear". Excellent screenwriting! Abraham and Hulce are so convincing here. I have tried to imagine how they were able to play the scene without the soundtrack music in the background. I think Hulce's contribution to 'Amadeus' was under appreciated. I was in tears, watching this scene in 1984.
other people have made similar comments, about Salieri's motivations or intentions sort of becoming more purified, here.. as if he is putting aside the rivalry and genuinely wanting to help Mozart. --As if Salieri's envy has subsided, and he only feels appreciation and selfless dedication to a talented friend in this sequence. As beautiful and complex as that viewpoint is, I'm afraid I only see a definite and obvious continuation of Salieri's obsessive desire to push and work Mozart - literally to death. Some part of him is clearly enthused and even might be feeling somewhat healed by this experience of assisting the dying genius, but I still think that the main, driving force behind Salieri's whole demeanor and actions here continues, until the end, to be his firmly resolute and completely consuming desire to murder Mozart.
@@vixenwinters6375 I do agree with your viewpoint. Mozart asks "do you believe in fire that never dies, burning you forever?" Salieri answers with a heartfelt "yes". That's his envy, anger & obsession. Despite his willingness to act as an amanuensis, (ordered abt by M), to admit that he, the great Salieri, doesn't "understand", (dropping his ego, here)...*we* know that this was not a transformative experience. He was never, truly, Mozart's friend, but worked against him, unbeknownst to Mozart. S believes that God whispers in M's ear, and this is the closest Salieri will get, to the voice of God. So he encouraged Mozart to work, unto his death. It's no wonder Salieri is beset by madness in old age. Thanks for your perceptive comments. I wept in the theater, because of Mozart's death...this scene was devastating.
I saw a documentary where Tom Hulce said they had earpieces in for this scene so they would know when to say their lines in time for the music. Apparently there was an issue with them, and that's why he pauses for so long at 0:42! But it fits the scene so well that they used that take anyway. Both of the shots (facing Mozart and facing Salieri) were also filmed at the same time, so that's why their overlapping dialogue is so convincing.
@@annie10103 I have heard about this story too. The non functioning devices give the scene that huge feeling of uncertainty though a very certain ending : death !
Fun fact: Even though this happens in 1791, one of the people portrayed in this scene was actually photographed. The 7-year-old boy who Constanze is holding at 5:53 is their son Karl Thomas Mozart. He was a gifted pianist but ended up becoming a government accountant. He attended events dedicated to his father until his death in 1858, and 2 years before he died, he posed for a Daguerreotype. It's the only known photograph of a member of the Mozart family. You can see it if you look him up on Google or Wikipedia.
This is not entirely true, since there is also a Photograph of Constanze Mozart from 1840 with her new new husband, Georg Nissen. Source: www.krone.at/442666
I love how Salieri is panicked by the instruction "doubling the voices" (ie "just write down the same notes again") and yet is able to construct the fast moving bassline with almost no information...
It’s because he was confused about how simple it was. He assumed Mozart would have written a more complex harmony, and was surprised by the fact that he chose to do that.
It was absolutly commen that the instruments have the same notes as the voices. It's called "colla parte". And a composer would never write out the same notes twice. You just write down "simile" or something like this.
I saw it more as Salieri being confused with Mozart's choice rather than not knowing how to write it down. To Salieri's mind, it was like Mozart took out random ingredients from the cupboard. The dish is all wrong. But while it's on the stove Mozart gets him to taste it, and it finally starts to come together. It's why Salieri could never match up to Mozart. In terms of imagination and vision, they were not equals.
I feel it had more to do that he didn't understand the flow of the music (or Mozart's Genius). Like in his mind the melody didn't make sense. It's like if you're taking dictation in English and someone says "Hi Me Football Law Yoda What Is" you would step back and think like "ok wtf? did I hear that right?"
From an entertainment standpoint, absolutely. Fantastic moving making here. But the simultaneous composing and orchestrating going on here? Absolute hogwash.
Well... a great scene as far as acting, although obviously fiction. But whoever was the music consultant for this writing, must have been either pandering to the audience or ignorant about the style of sacred music in Central Europe around that time. The whole business about the basset horns and trombones doubling the voices is a common practice of the time. Salieri would have certainly known all of that ;-)
One thing Salieri doesn't appreciate about himself is he knows enough about music to recognize the skill and prodigy that Mozart is. That alone is still representative of musical talent. Sometimes I wish I had as much taste in things, food, music, literature.
@@AlexAlcyone It was lao tszu I believe. I should have given him credit earlier >< It means that real genius is the gift of seeing potential in things.
2:24 Man, that face Salieri makes really sums up their entire dichotomy, doesn't it? Salieri here is finally happy he wrote something, but then Mozart goes "Alright that was nothing, now we're gonna really lay it down."
Not even that. Afterwards Mozart explains to salieri how the harmonies go and Salieri finally understands after trying real hard to....then Mozart says "now for the real fire...." Salieri's face is like "damn...."
This scene was magical to me when I first saw it. Remembering that moment now, this quote came to mind: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." They had advanced knowledge of music. To them, music was a language, and only a few people can understand and use it at that level. Mozart was the Shakespeare of music.
@DieFlabbergast Your comments are always suggestive of an assumption on your part that none of the commentators who refer to Mozart's unparalleled musical talent and accomplishments have ever heard the music of any other classical composer. I LOVE Bach, and Beethoven, and, hell, I love Chopin, and Tchaikovsky. All are exceptionally talented men, no doubt, and there are so MANY others that I DIDN'T mention. Like Barber, for example. Or Schubert. But just because these names aren't ALSO mentioned in someone's praise of, specifically, Mozart, that doesn't mean that that person is completely ignorant of those other composers or their spectacular, timeless, and indisputably well-constructed contributions to music. Like I said, I love all the composers you mentioned, and even some you DIDN'T. But if I am commenting on the work of Mozart, then, rest assured, not only will I make the declaration that he is my favorite, but also that he was, in my humble opinion, the best of the best technically and compositionally speaking, and I will also NOT feel the need to mention any OTHER composers while MAKING those statements. About MOZART. In a comment section, of a clip of a movie, that is ABOUT. MOZART. JUST saying. Might not wanna assume that everyone who calls Mozart their favorite composer is totally and completely ignorant or unappreciative of all those OTHER greats whose names you keep throwing out there, in apparent frustration and angst. You gotta just give us the benefit of the doubt, here, for your own good, so you don't go all insane thinking the world, or even youtube, are only full of uneducated idiots. And if we ARE uneducated idiots, then, chill out anyway, 'cause truly dumb people aren't worth your time or energy. ----Not even in a youtube comment section, my friend.
Yeah, I think it was seen as disrespectful and overdone at the time. It is over the top and exaggerated, but closer to the actual Mozart than any of the super-serious portrayals were.
Dorry to say that - as great as his acting was, Tom Hulce to Abraham acting was like comparing Salieri to Mozart. This movie is about Salieri, and FMA acting is a masterpiece.
I suspect that Salieri's motivation for helping Mozart in this scene was his desire to write something as beautiful as Mozart had done. He understood that God chose him to be his instrument, and resented Mozart (and God) for it, and spent the entire movie plotting to sabotage him. Even going so far as to plot to kill him. So, to aid him in the completion of Confutatis is not within his character to do at that point in the movie. Unless, of course, one also realizes that throughout the movie, Salieri felt incompetent, even mediocre, when compared to Mozart, that perhaps he was vicariously experiencing what it was like to write something of beauty, to be in the shoes of a genius, to finally be the instrument of God that he yearned for ever since his youth. Notice how much excitement it brings him when he can imagine the music in his head, how much praise he showers Mozart with, as if he were again "looking through a cage of meticulous ink strokes, at an absolute beauty." That's my interpretation of this scene. I love this scene a lot. This movie is a testament to the power of story-telling and acting. It proves that what we need nowadays is great story-telling and acting, not more special effects and needlessly complex, and confusing, story plots and events. Complexity itself is not the demon here, in cinema, it is when complexity is attained for the sake of vanity.
I don't usually comment on other's comments, only like them. But you, my dear sir, have written the most perfect film review and to a certain degree, analysis, that I have come across so far. So I must congratulate you, and say, "Well said."
I don’t disagree with you overall, but for me the beauty of this was that motivation you stated was there, but only as the scene progressed. He was helping him at first because his plot requires him to, but by the time he hits the violins, he is completely immersed in the music and is once acima in a fanboy in the presence of his idol, forgetting completely the hatred he felt both for him and God. It is the transformation that occurs DURING this scene that makes it the epitome of the film. It was here where he started to regret all of it, and when Mozart passes, he feels it sink in.
Well and truly said. And these odes of vanity strive only to gain the praise of the patron saints of true mediocrity. Thus, they seek absolution, thus they fade away. And this, this is their Requiem. For in the light of true genius, the faded stars that blink quickly out of existence, all pass away in ruthless silence. And all that remains, is the echo of the laughter in the emptiness.
When mozart goes slow and gives Salieri time to write, Salieri is perfectly capable, even correclt assuming certaing things. When Mozart goes into composer overdrive, thats when Salieri loses track.
Absolute masterpiece of a scene. One of my favorite clips from the movie. "Do you believe it? A fire which never dies, burning you forever" "Oh yes." That hit me
The section Lacrimosa is the most moving of any requiem ever written. Confession of sin and a plea for forgiveness. Mozart, who was commissioned to write it for a wealthy client, completed it on his death bed suffering from a high fever, is almost beyond belief. It was his last work, but wasn't used for him as he was thrown into a communal grave in the middle of the night. 229 years later Mozart is unequaled. RIP the greatest composer ever.
The Lacrimosa wasn’t complete at the time of his death, it was later finished by one of his students, Süssmayr. He in fact completed the remainder of the mass
He is mostly certainly "equalled." Apparently, the names of Bach, Handel, Beethoven, Bruckner, Mahler, Bartok, Stravinsky, and Shostakovich (et al) are unknown to you. Ignorance is, indeed, widespread.
To think he or anyone could or can hear this in their head then write it like he does with choir..............percussion..............strings ............... horns...............i do not understand how!!
@@michaelaaron2415 no I think its of perfect pitch and he just trained himself like a lot of other composers to write pieces without instrument just in his head...
That's the thing about genius. The rest of us are just lucky enough to know it when we see and hear it. Mozart's music is pretty much the best the humanity can do.
Growing up my brother would make me watch these kinds of movies, "old settings". Like Count of Monte Cristo, I used to not like them because they weren't cartoons or funny for a kid. So glad he made me watch them now.
A great scene as far as acting, although obviously fiction. But whoever was the music consultant for this writing, must have been either pandering to the audience or ignorant about the style of sacred music in Central Europe around that time. The whole business about the basset horns and trombones doubling the voices is a common practice of the time. Salieri would have certainly know that, being himself a composer of sacred music in those very times and environment.
as a kid I grew up in a rural impoverished town that had no use for things like classical music. A noob music teacher who came to our school district not only taught our class how to breathe properly during choir practice but also introduced us to this movie and initiated my obsession for classical music
I love that little pause Hulce adds between the two times he says "A Minor" between 0:43-0:53...I think that was his way of adding a piece of Mozart's history. He composed a Concerto in A Minor around the time his mother (who he was very close to) passed away. I think he's thinking about his mother's death and embracing his own death with that little pause.
@@justinhamilton8647 he didn’t forget his lines. Not in this scene specifically. The track in his earphone wasn’t on the right time. The part where Murray says he’s going too fast is where Hulce stumbled over his lines.
He decieved Mozart into working himself to death, writing his own requim, and on his deathbed he showed up to help Mozart write the same piece he had commisioned, for he was the only mind close enough to Mozarts to be able to take dictation from him. This movie works beautifully as a tragedy on so many levels
www.mentalfloss.com/article/547532/facts-about-wolfgang-amadeus-mozart this article tells you who did commissioned him for his last piece this part never really happened I've read a lot of Articles saying that it didn't the person that helped him after he passed away was Franz Xaver Sussmayra
@@lynn1464 Thank you! I rewatched the whole thing recently and had to remind my partner that the movie was more a fiction and factual, but couldn´t actually name the things made up, safe for Salieri never actually giving that many figs about Mozart. Time to read up a bit!
Non-stop goose bumps throughout this scene. We see the creative process of a genius in action, and best of all, Salieri gets to be a part of it. It's as if heaven is singing through the weakened Mozart and Salieri gets to write it down!
Don't forget the simultaneous tension and emotion created by Constanze's hurried return to her husband! You want her to make it home to him so BADLY! Come ON, hurry, Stanze, HURRY!! --BUT, in the end.... ...sigh...
From Roger Ebert's "Great Movies" essay on AMADEUS: "The most moving scene in the movie takes place at Mozart's deathbed, where the great composer, only 35, dictates the final pages of his great "Requiem" to Salieri, sitting at the foot of the bed with quill and manuscript, dragging the notes from Mozart's fevered brain. This scene is moving not because Mozart is dying, but because Salieri, his lifelong rival, is striving to extract from the dying man yet another masterpiece that will illuminate how shabby Salieri's work is. Salieri hates Mozart but loves music more, and cannot live without yet one more work that he can resent for its perfection. True, Salieri plans to claim the work as his own - but for a man like him, that will be one more turn of the screw."
*Amadeus:* "Do you believe in it" *Salieri:* What? *Amadeus:* fire which never dies, burning you forever *DRASTIC PAUSE* Salieri: *OH YES* What great and powerful writing. Its clear these men both share a burden. Amadeus with his music and care-free nature. His childish demeanor. While Salieri is consumed with fire of jealously and zeal to be Mozart.
Which is not really true about them in historical acounts. That is what I hope this commentor meant by this. kaominx "it is sad because salieri is the only one who understood how genius mozart was." True. Because Salieri really loved Mozart and often healped him when no one else would. The fued between them was the theatrical add in. Truly, they were friends. And Mozrt was not as famous in his life time as he was after death.
Thank you, Torquil! I think you're absolutely right and I didn't notice that at first. No matter if you believe religious ideas to be "true" or "real", they are expressions of human existence, the way they perceive reality and how they experience themselves..
@@constanceboone8071 lolwhat?)))) What a ridiculous nonsense. Someone wasn't paying attention during music history classes if you was attending any of those at all)))
I first saw this film when I was a child and even now thirty years later I still find myself drawn back time and again. The humor, the magesty, the music, the tragedy. And this scene, when the full force comes together. Even as a ten year old boy I knew I was seeing something special, but I'm glad I've lived long enough to realize what a truly extraordinary masterpiece these two amazing actors were crafting.
Fun Fact: Tom Hulce had an earpiece to listen to a conductor telling him the lines. Right after he said “A Minor” there was a slight pause. He was still listening to his lines.
Both men had tragic ends, one, the greatest musical genius ever dead at 35 and buried in a pauper’s grave and the other, condemned to live for another 30 years and see himself and his music be forgotten.
This scene epitomized the genius of Mozart, that apparently his compositions often were almost fully formed in his head before committing them to paper. The Confutatis from the Requiem showcases Mozart’s quite, at the time, cutting edge mixture of harmony, instruments and tempo for dramatic effect. Whilst it’s true he died in the middle of writing the next piece in the Requiem (Lacrimosa), there is absolutely no evidence that Salieri assisted Mozart in this manner design to push him over the edge. His student Sussmayr finished off the Requiem from notes Mozart left. Still, despite the Hollywood license with the truth, it’s still a stunning scene!
Facsimile you can see in Salzburg and Vienna, he writes down the whole thing by ink, there is no Correction whatsoever...He even puts the Legato in the music which he wants..Even the Punctualities of some notes which should be played shortened...So certain is he about what he writes...3 hours Oper will only put down on the Page after it is finished in the head... In the 3,5hours Opera Don Giovanni, which is a high complex Music of the music history, not one Tune is corrected!! Very nicely written as he copies "from the Original"!! (Don Giovanni is some ca 820 pages in the Partitur!!) Me inclusive, nobody understands that...This is not Understandable! Actually it is not really "composing Music"!! No need to seek Perfection, no question as "can I do it better?" Not at all...
This is when Salieri realized that, if he simply tried to learn something from Mozart, he could’ve become the great composer he always wanted to be. This was the moment that Mozart realized that Salieri actually did have musical talent, and that he would’ve been a great collaborator. Notice how Mozart dies before the ‘Lacrimosa’ - arguably the most famous bit of his Requiem. I like to think that - in this movie universe - Salieri finished the score and accomplished his dream: “that his music would be remembered forever.”
This movie is the most epic movie of all time in my book... I can watch it over and over without getting sick of it. There is not a single scene which you can discard from this movie, just as Salieri said: “Displace one note and there would be diminishment. Displace one phrase and the structure would fall.”
I first saw this movie in my early teens. Then rediscovered it again much later. It has become my all time favorite movie. I'm close to 50 now. This is good stuff. The music and the drama.
Remember watching this in 1984...leaving the theater speechless for the rest of the night...dreaming the play again... and returning into present just the next day... It was haunting... still today, 40 years after.
At the end Mozart doesn't even seem to recite the notes. He just sings and Salieri writes it all down. And that's what gives me goosebumps really. I was so saddened when he died. He could have become a better person and most importantly, reach the peak of his success. I think that if heaven truly exists then he has a place in it. Right next to the Lord. Playing music for him. Maybe he regrets dying so early. But that's how life is and at the end of the day, he became one of the best musicians of all time. He was simply a genius.
I am fully aware that this movie is a completely fictional account of Mozart’s life but it is the movie that truly introduced me to Mozart’s operas enough to want to watch them. For that I will be eternally grateful. I own blu-rays of “Le Nozze di Figaro, Don Giovanni, and The Magic Flute that this movie will forever sit next to.
I wouldn't call it "completely fictional." The rivalry between him and Salieri certainly is exaggerated, if not fabricated, however many aspects of this film are true to the spirit of Mozart: he did have a childish and obscene sense of humor. He was a womanizer. He did compose effortlessly and had it all completed in his head. He did have a strained relationship with his father. And he was supremely confident in his abilities, which may have come across as arrogance to his contemporaries... I think this film captures brilliantly the spirit of Mozart and of the times he lived and composed in. It may not be a one-to-one rendering of exact sequence of events, but that's the nature and magic of cinema. This was never meant to be a documentary, but an experience for a large audience to celebrate Mozart's life and music.
So damn hard to pick a favorite moment in the movie, but this is definitely one of them. Mozart at his lowest low near the end yet with his musical genius not dulled at all, Salieri in the final stages of his plan as he puts to pen the requiem, the two of them back and forth on notes & music with said music playing in the background, and in the background a sense of dread and betrayal as Mozart's earlier comment of considering Salieri as a friend is still fresh, how Mozart never knew that the one who sped up his destruction was right in front of him. While I wouldn't say Amadeus is my absolute favorite film, I would at least put it in my top 5.
This motion picture, especially this sequece, has had a profound impact on me. I have loved Mozart since age 4 when I first heard one of his piano sonatas. I saw Amadeus at age 10. And it has been my favorite film ever since.
I keep coming back to this scene. So many different layers, little details, the acting, the writing (both script and music), everything is so capturing. Like I could, and probably will in the future, continue commenting on all the things I love in JUST this clip by itself.
Bach, Handel, Vivaldi the most mathematical based composers. Mozart was the next step in Classical Composition which is more modern, more melodic and less mathematical. There is no one like Bach and I believe he is the most ingenious composer of all time.
@@tesscrelli783 The best part is that the phrase of music he just sang, actually ends with a G sharp, extactly as he says it. (Rather than D sharp, as you misheard). And it sounds coherent that he may ask for confirmation on that particular note, which might not be the most obvious one.
It’s been awhile, and it just hit, this level of “technical detail” could likely never be in a movie today. And yet (even for those who don’t know an ostinato from an arpeggio), it speaks beautifully.
This is one of the few scenes in popular cinema history that accurately depicts the process of writing classical music, and a brief glimps into it's structure. Sure, most of it goes over our heads, but what a world to explore.
My mom and I watched this together and I thought this was one of the best movies I’ve seen, and she didn’t like it at all. I still think she’s crazy. This is an amazing film, a true Masterpiece.
Absolutely all of it in his head and needed to get it out.... needing an outlet to get his incredible music in his head out for our world. Just amazing he did it;)
Salieri, much like Mozart, hears the music in his head. He even understands where Mozart is going with the piece. They are very much equals, yet Saleri’s feelings of inadequacy hampers him from realizing, and internalizing it. Even as he engages with Mozart in the creative process.
The way I have always saw this scene was that, this is the time Salieri’s life long prayer has finally being answered, “Let me celebrate you glory through music”. Led by Mozart, Salieri stepped into the divine realm of music. He was able to create the music the way Mozart does by the end. As a mortal, Salieri was standing on the same peak as Mozart and witnessing Mozart’s ascending to heaven. I LOVE THIS MOVIE.
This is my all most favorite song. In High school Choir we sang this song at the competition of school districts and we got 1st place, because of this song. We sang it with so much Passion.!!! Will never forget that 😍💖🙏
One of the greatest non-action film climaxes right here--Mozart finally finally meets someone who understands him (and with whom he could possibly become friends) and Salieri finally begins to understand Mozart. Their brief, mutual creativity is electrifying, and it makes the sense of loss at the end more tragic.
And Salieri helps to teach and raise Mozart's kids. I'm glad that they at least had a brief and mutual yet great connection when Mozart's time was coming to the end. Glad he had peace in the end and the rivalry was put behind everything.
Salieri and Mozart were actually friends in real life, and had only a friendly rivalry. But they were good friends.
if he swallowed his pride, they could have done amazing things together... but then again, Mozart didn't really need him when he was healthy.
According to the movie's version of history, Salieri actually got his prayer, to write beautiful music. But he was too egotistical to realize that he would actually do so, but as Mozart's scribe.
No no. Al the creativity was Mozart's. Salieri was just assisting him because Mozart was ill.
" So I am going to write a movie, I will have the best acting performances ever produced, amazing dialogues, historically accurate costumes, decor plus a unique and moving story" it will be a huge success for sure.
" Yes indeed and who will write the soundtrack?"
"Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart"
Actually, the costumes is the only failure the film has. The fabric used for the gowns is too thick, nearly carpet like. The silhouette is too loose on both the men and women, and the wigs are a travesty. But otherwise, a great film with great actors and great editing.
So i i'm going to write a youtube comment and copy the most liked one.
Lol you are so right. This movie literally has the best soundtrack writer in human history.
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aren’t you? A true man of culture I see. Lol
"Let's write a 6 minute scene about composing classical music."
Said no filmmaker since.
Thank god for music and a story like Mozart's. These are the only worthy remakes for films. Someone one, one day will tell this story in a more reflective and brilliant manner.
´Cause music at that time, made less time to make..?
@@najaberthelsen That's actually quite brilliant. Imagine the amount of beautiful music there would have been composed by Mozart or Bizet if they have had artificially instruments.
But quality is always more sacred than quantity so they went down the long road.
Well there it is .
No need. This cannot possibly be bettered.
You look at him sweating in that bed and think "My god, just a course of intravenous antibiotics would probably clear up whatever he had." The absence of modern medicine took so many geniuses in their prime.
Yes especially Schubert who died very young and has a short career.....but prolific !
If only tupac got shot here in 2039 when he could of just easily used flesh regeneration gel.
@@a.r.m.de.m.s749 Sounds like a joke... But if could be true?.
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That's what the humans of the future will be saying about us and our AIDS and Cancer xD
Mozart only just reaching his peak when he died, believe it or not, his music was becoming even more masterful and reaching.
Imagine him living 20 or 30 years longer. What masterpieces he could've created....
@@alexandrabrorsson1265 constantly learning and growing as a composer through the years I can't even imagine what he could have done
@@alexandrabrorsson1265 Imagine his interactions with Beethoven
@@ajsouza3720 Mozart actually knew him when Beethoven was around 15 years old... but even if Mozart would have reached an older age, giving the facts that Beethoven as an adult was deaf and almost a recluse there wouldn't have been much interaction at all...
I believe around 1782 is when Mozart started to become incredible. He has some great pieces before then but it was in the 1780’s and the 1790’s when he composed his best and most revolutionary music
This man had the entire thing in his head.
From every single instrument, he knew what each was going to sound like and then so. The man died too soon just like some other great composers and musicians out there.
Mozart was amazing, but this is fiction
While often mythicized this way, Mozarts own notes reveal that he composed the way most did with a melody first and then he would revise the other voices and orchestration in sections. He was a genius, just not a magician
Just like Avicii.
@@Fnelrbnef true greatest always live shorter
@@Fnelrbnef dude just get out of here
Mozart: struggling in his death bed.
Salieri: "you go too fast!"
😅...faster when hes almost death than salieri in his prime
@@mannlichesgehirn7689pretty much this movie in a nutshell
in a sense, he did go too fast
I was never into classical music before this movie. That changed after this movie. The Mass Requiem is deep and moving.
I've been writing one in F# minor
Gay
I saw this movie like 5-6 years ago and its still one of my favourites. Its not just the music but what a great story and acting.
Tyler Hansen it’s ok if you’re gay.
@@My_Lacrimosa so hows it coming along
the world needs more movies like this one, it is a masterpiece
We got Dune coming up. We just got out of the decade of superheroes. We're good
@@willriley994 superheroes lmao, you call this shit masterpieces 😂😂
@@Mo.Sherin agreed..................wth?
I wouldn't count on that anytime soon. Nobody knows how to make movies anymore.
@@jeffreyval9665 they do, its just they let their personal agendas and opinions get in the way of good story telling and film making. never again though will we see films like this made
"G sharp?"
"Of course."
As if there was any question
Is it C sharp?
@@simon-di7xt no it’s G#, because that’s what he said as well as because they are in A minor and the G# revolves to A
@@sneakysnake2330 Oh thanks i thought it was C sharp
@@simon-di7xt G# on the leading tone signifies it as an A Harmonic Minor.
It’s the leading tone in minor
Brilliant scene
It is Indeed!!
Musical ability far beyond what 99.9% of us could hope to comprehend, and acting that danced on the edge of perfection. I've seen nothing else that matches this 6 and a half minutes of cinema in my 60 years.
Academy Award has to ad on the prices « best scene »
To say the least
The Best♥️
This is so powerful. Salieri sets his jealousy and ego aside, and scores the dying genius's music. He is open and honest: "I don't understand!" But he is determined to score the music, before it is too late, to catch "the voice of God" "whispering in Mozart's ear". Excellent screenwriting! Abraham and Hulce are so convincing here. I have tried to imagine how they were able to play the scene without the soundtrack music in the background. I think Hulce's contribution to 'Amadeus' was under appreciated. I was in tears, watching this scene in 1984.
other people have made similar comments, about Salieri's motivations or intentions sort of becoming more purified, here.. as if he is putting aside the rivalry and genuinely wanting to help Mozart. --As if Salieri's envy has subsided, and he only feels appreciation and selfless dedication to a talented friend in this sequence.
As beautiful and complex as that viewpoint is, I'm afraid I only see a definite and obvious continuation of Salieri's obsessive desire to push and work Mozart - literally to death. Some part of him is clearly enthused and even might be feeling somewhat healed by this experience of assisting the dying genius, but I still think that the main, driving force behind Salieri's whole demeanor and actions here continues, until the end, to be his firmly resolute and completely consuming desire to murder Mozart.
@@vixenwinters6375 I do agree with your viewpoint. Mozart asks "do you believe in fire that never dies, burning you forever?" Salieri answers with a heartfelt "yes". That's his envy, anger & obsession. Despite his willingness to act as an amanuensis, (ordered abt by M), to admit that he, the great Salieri, doesn't "understand", (dropping his ego, here)...*we* know that this was not a transformative experience. He was never, truly, Mozart's friend, but worked against him, unbeknownst to Mozart. S believes that God whispers in M's ear, and this is the closest Salieri will get, to the voice of God. So he encouraged Mozart to work, unto his death. It's no wonder Salieri is beset by madness in old age. Thanks for your perceptive comments. I wept in the theater, because of Mozart's death...this scene was devastating.
I saw a documentary where Tom Hulce said they had earpieces in for this scene so they would know when to say their lines in time for the music. Apparently there was an issue with them, and that's why he pauses for so long at 0:42! But it fits the scene so well that they used that take anyway. Both of the shots (facing Mozart and facing Salieri) were also filmed at the same time, so that's why their overlapping dialogue is so convincing.
@@annie10103 I have heard about this story too. The non functioning devices give the scene that huge feeling of uncertainty though a very certain ending : death !
Very well said!
Fun fact: Even though this happens in 1791, one of the people portrayed in this scene was actually photographed. The 7-year-old boy who Constanze is holding at 5:53 is their son Karl Thomas Mozart. He was a gifted pianist but ended up becoming a government accountant. He attended events dedicated to his father until his death in 1858, and 2 years before he died, he posed for a Daguerreotype. It's the only known photograph of a member of the Mozart family. You can see it if you look him up on Google or Wikipedia.
Wow!
Thank you!
Wow, thanks. I did not know that.
This is not entirely true, since there is also a Photograph of Constanze Mozart from 1840 with her new new husband, Georg Nissen.
Source: www.krone.at/442666
@@Smoerni Most historians believe that is not her. They talk about it on her wikipedia page. Georg Nissen died in 1826, also.
I love how Salieri is panicked by the instruction "doubling the voices" (ie "just write down the same notes again") and yet is able to construct the fast moving bassline with almost no information...
It’s because he was confused about how simple it was. He assumed Mozart would have written a more complex harmony, and was surprised by the fact that he chose to do that.
Exactly, very fake! But the movie is great, if we don't take it for real.
It was absolutly commen that the instruments have the same notes as the voices. It's called "colla parte". And a composer would never write out the same notes twice. You just write down "simile" or something like this.
I saw it more as Salieri being confused with Mozart's choice rather than not knowing how to write it down. To Salieri's mind, it was like Mozart took out random ingredients from the cupboard. The dish is all wrong. But while it's on the stove Mozart gets him to taste it, and it finally starts to come together.
It's why Salieri could never match up to Mozart. In terms of imagination and vision, they were not equals.
I feel it had more to do that he didn't understand the flow of the music (or Mozart's Genius). Like in his mind the melody didn't make sense. It's like if you're taking dictation in English and someone says "Hi Me Football Law Yoda What Is" you would step back and think like "ok wtf? did I hear that right?"
I love Mozart's smile here at 3:46 when Salieri reads his mind!
Maybe the best scene about music and about composing ever.
Exactly.
@Tab
Idk, the "staring through the cage of those meticulous ink-strokes" scene is DEFINITELY another contender.
From an entertainment standpoint, absolutely. Fantastic moving making here. But the simultaneous composing and orchestrating going on here? Absolute hogwash.
Well... a great scene as far as acting, although obviously fiction. But whoever was the music consultant for this writing, must have been either pandering to the audience or ignorant about the style of sacred music in Central Europe around that time. The whole business about the basset horns and trombones doubling the voices is a common practice of the time. Salieri would have certainly known all of that ;-)
"I don't need it written down, the music is already in my head." DAMN.
Rick beato was just talking about this scene
@@asmrdadbod2483 where?
One thing Salieri doesn't appreciate about himself is he knows enough about music to recognize the skill and prodigy that Mozart is. That alone is still representative of musical talent. Sometimes I wish I had as much taste in things, food, music, literature.
Love this comment! Very true
well you have enough to recognize the talent of Salieri AND of Mozart! ;)
To see life within the seed, that is truly genius.
@@Seldomheardabout that was too poetic for some comment section. I hope you are a writer.
@@AlexAlcyone It was lao tszu I believe. I should have given him credit earlier ><
It means that real genius is the gift of seeing potential in things.
Definitely my favourite scene from this whole film. This movie won the academy award for best sound mixing for a goddamn reason
Bailee’s Bookshelf Wouldn’t Mozart be astounded!
It could be shorter
@@jokutyyppi4226 NOOOOOO it's too short
Bailee Parkes
I was interested in seeing the film until I saw this clip. No more.
@@jokutyyppi4226 Do you think there are too many notes?
2:24 Man, that face Salieri makes really sums up their entire dichotomy, doesn't it? Salieri here is finally happy he wrote something, but then Mozart goes "Alright that was nothing, now we're gonna really lay it down."
This shows the extent of how good the acting was.
Not even that. Afterwards Mozart explains to salieri how the harmonies go and Salieri finally understands after trying real hard to....then Mozart says "now for the real fire...." Salieri's face is like "damn...."
This scene was magical to me when I first saw it.
Remembering that moment now, this quote came to mind: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
They had advanced knowledge of music. To them, music was a language, and only a few people can understand and use it at that level. Mozart was the Shakespeare of music.
If Mozart was the Shakespeare of music, then who were Bach, Handel, and Beethoven? Do you have cut-out comparisons for those gentlemen?
@@DieFlabbergast I quite enjoy your comments here
@DieFlabbergast
Your comments are always suggestive of an assumption on your part that none of the commentators who refer to Mozart's unparalleled musical talent and accomplishments have ever heard the music of any other classical composer. I LOVE Bach, and Beethoven, and, hell, I love Chopin, and Tchaikovsky. All are exceptionally talented men, no doubt, and there are so MANY others that I DIDN'T mention. Like Barber, for example. Or Schubert. But just because these names aren't ALSO mentioned in someone's praise of, specifically, Mozart, that doesn't mean that that person is completely ignorant of those other composers or their spectacular, timeless, and indisputably well-constructed contributions to music.
Like I said, I love all the composers you mentioned, and even some you DIDN'T. But if I am commenting on the work of Mozart, then, rest assured, not only will I make the declaration that he is my favorite, but also that he was, in my humble opinion, the best of the best technically and compositionally speaking, and I will also NOT feel the need to mention any OTHER composers while MAKING those statements. About MOZART. In a comment section, of a clip of a movie, that is ABOUT. MOZART.
JUST saying. Might not wanna assume that everyone who calls Mozart their favorite composer is totally and completely ignorant or unappreciative of all those OTHER greats whose names you keep throwing out there, in apparent frustration and angst.
You gotta just give us the benefit of the doubt, here, for your own good, so you don't go all insane thinking the world, or even youtube, are only full of uneducated idiots. And if we ARE uneducated idiots, then, chill out anyway, 'cause truly dumb people aren't worth your time or energy. ----Not even in a youtube comment section, my friend.
@@vixenwinters6375 Mozart was the most gifted human being that humanity has ever seen. Ideas came to him so easily.
Tom Hulce was amazing how he did not win an academy award is head scratching one of the greatest actors of his generation
Yeah, I think it was seen as disrespectful and overdone at the time. It is over the top and exaggerated, but closer to the actual Mozart than any of the super-serious portrayals were.
Love him💞
He lost to Salieri.
Bad luck. He ran against one of the greatest acting performances of all time.
Dorry to say that - as great as his acting was, Tom Hulce to Abraham acting was like comparing Salieri to Mozart.
This movie is about Salieri, and FMA acting is a masterpiece.
I suspect that Salieri's motivation for helping Mozart in this scene was his desire to write something as beautiful as Mozart had done. He understood that God chose him to be his instrument, and resented Mozart (and God) for it, and spent the entire movie plotting to sabotage him. Even going so far as to plot to kill him. So, to aid him in the completion of Confutatis is not within his character to do at that point in the movie. Unless, of course, one also realizes that throughout the movie, Salieri felt incompetent, even mediocre, when compared to Mozart, that perhaps he was vicariously experiencing what it was like to write something of beauty, to be in the shoes of a genius, to finally be the instrument of God that he yearned for ever since his youth. Notice how much excitement it brings him when he can imagine the music in his head, how much praise he showers Mozart with, as if he were again "looking through a cage of meticulous ink strokes, at an absolute beauty." That's my interpretation of this scene. I love this scene a lot.
This movie is a testament to the power of story-telling and acting. It proves that what we need nowadays is great story-telling and acting, not more special effects and needlessly complex, and confusing, story plots and events. Complexity itself is not the demon here, in cinema, it is when complexity is attained for the sake of vanity.
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Well said sir.
I don't usually comment on other's comments, only like them.
But you, my dear sir, have written the most perfect film review and to a certain degree, analysis, that I have come across so far. So I must congratulate you, and say, "Well said."
I don’t disagree with you overall, but for me the beauty of this was that motivation you stated was there, but only as the scene progressed. He was helping him at first because his plot requires him to, but by the time he hits the violins, he is completely immersed in the music and is once acima in a fanboy in the presence of his idol, forgetting completely the hatred he felt both for him and God. It is the transformation that occurs DURING this scene that makes it the epitome of the film. It was here where he started to regret all of it, and when Mozart passes, he feels it sink in.
Well and truly said. And these odes of vanity strive only to gain the praise of the patron saints of true mediocrity. Thus, they seek absolution, thus they fade away.
And this, this is their Requiem. For in the light of true genius, the faded stars that blink quickly out of existence, all pass away in ruthless silence.
And all that remains, is the echo of the laughter in the emptiness.
I saw this movie with a live orchestra and this scene was one of the most beautiful cinematic and musical experiences I've had😭
Holy smokes where??? I'd pay good money for that experience.
@@ajsouza3720 Yes so worth it! I saw it in Miami. It’s called Amadeus Live and they tour the world. This is the website
www.amadeus-live.com
@@Jenny-nh9hh Omg bless you, I'll have to keep an eye on their locations.
Wow that's amazing
When the world opens back up im definitely seeking them out!
@@Jenny-nh9hh thank you sooo much, next representation are in my country!!!
If it had been anyone less of a genius than Salieri, this would not have been able to happen. Hell, even Salieri struggled to follow Mozart
Kian H in context of the story, doofus. You know what he meant.
@@Tempusverum but even then he's incorrect. Anyone able to notate and transcribe could have followed his instructions
When mozart goes slow and gives Salieri time to write, Salieri is perfectly capable, even correclt assuming certaing things. When Mozart goes into composer overdrive, thats when Salieri loses track.
Absolute masterpiece of a scene. One of my favorite clips from the movie.
"Do you believe it? A fire which never dies, burning you forever"
"Oh yes."
That hit me
of course your not talking about the music
I hope you know that bs, right? ;-)
The section Lacrimosa is the most moving of any requiem ever written. Confession of sin and a plea for forgiveness. Mozart, who was commissioned to write it for a wealthy client, completed it on his death bed suffering from a high fever, is almost beyond belief. It was his last work, but wasn't used for him as he was thrown into a communal grave in the middle of the night. 229 years later Mozart is unequaled. RIP the greatest composer ever.
The Lacrimosa wasn’t complete at the time of his death, it was later finished by one of his students, Süssmayr. He in fact completed the remainder of the mass
He is mostly certainly "equalled." Apparently, the names of Bach, Handel, Beethoven, Bruckner, Mahler, Bartok, Stravinsky, and Shostakovich (et al) are unknown to you. Ignorance is, indeed, widespread.
Better than Bach? Please 🙄
@@DieFlabbergast have you ever hear the word “pretentious”?
what about paul mccartney? the 20th century version of mozart for sure
3:34 gives me goosebumps
Ive got these goosebumbs every time
You come around
The real fire
Where in Requiem is it?
@@niklasbergstrom9099 confutatis? Lol
@@minh9545 yes it is confutatis last of the 3rd sequentia
To think he or anyone could or can hear this in their head then write it like he does with choir..............percussion..............strings ............... horns...............i do not understand how!!
Passion man its the passion
@@michaelaaron2415 no I think its of perfect pitch and he just trained himself like a lot of other composers to write pieces without instrument just in his head...
That's the thing about genius. The rest of us are just lucky enough to know it when we see and hear it. Mozart's music is pretty much the best the humanity can do.
do you have it?!
It’s not to do with genius, just knowing how to write music and having perfect pitch.
Mozart: do u have it?
Salieri: not too fast
Mozart: do u have it?
Salieri: not too fast One moment
Also Salieri: ONE MOMENT PLEASE ONE MOMENT
Thats what he said...
Must be so frustrating for Mozart who just let's itall pour out onto the page
Palhair the great noice
Brilliant
Salieri is a baby for me
"God was singing through that little man".
In this scene, Salieri, the little man, feel what that's finally like.
This is one of the greatest scene in film history
"IT GOES WITH THE HARMONY!"
Growing up my brother would make me watch these kinds of movies, "old settings". Like Count of Monte Cristo, I used to not like them because they weren't cartoons or funny for a kid. So glad he made me watch them now.
Same experience, but it was my father. I was bored silly seeing this for the first time at 10, but oh man...
I feel the creative grind vibe in this scene, excited, slightly stressful, like a good creative collab in the studio, love it.
"tonic and dominant" 2:58
the acting just surges like a mf
mf = moderately loud
That's how it feels every time I'm writing my homework.
For me it's 2:57
We can also see in this scene how musically genius Salieri was and despite that he still didn't even hold a candle to Mozart's abilities.
skilled. not genius. for Salieri it was hard work. For Mozart it was just natural, like breathing.
Beethoven’s mentor!
A great scene as far as acting, although obviously fiction. But whoever was the music consultant for this writing, must have been either pandering to the audience or ignorant about the style of sacred music in Central Europe around that time. The whole business about the basset horns and trombones doubling the voices is a common practice of the time. Salieri would have certainly know that, being himself a composer of sacred music in those very times and environment.
as a kid I grew up in a rural impoverished town that had no use for things like classical music. A noob music teacher who came to our school district not only taught our class how to breathe properly during choir practice but also introduced us to this movie and initiated my obsession for classical music
Music is the one language all mankind understand.
Would you ever major in music?
I love that little pause Hulce adds between the two times he says "A Minor" between 0:43-0:53...I think that was his way of adding a piece of Mozart's history. He composed a Concerto in A Minor around the time his mother (who he was very close to) passed away. I think he's thinking about his mother's death and embracing his own death with that little pause.
@@justinhamilton8647 he didn’t forget his lines. Not in this scene specifically. The track in his earphone wasn’t on the right time. The part where Murray says he’s going too fast is where Hulce stumbled over his lines.
who knew a scene about composing classical music could be so exhilarating
Milos Forman probably
He decieved Mozart into working himself to death, writing his own requim, and on his deathbed he showed up to help Mozart write the same piece he had commisioned, for he was the only mind close enough to Mozarts to be able to take dictation from him.
This movie works beautifully as a tragedy on so many levels
horrifying yet enjoyable to watch
www.mentalfloss.com/article/547532/facts-about-wolfgang-amadeus-mozart this article tells you who did commissioned him for his last piece this part never really happened I've read a lot of Articles saying that it didn't the person that helped him after he passed away was Franz Xaver Sussmayra
@@lynn1464 Thank you! I rewatched the whole thing recently and had to remind my partner that the movie was more a fiction and factual, but couldn´t actually name the things made up, safe for Salieri never actually giving that many figs about Mozart. Time to read up a bit!
this did not happen in real life, you realize that right? this is a hollywood film
@@GlockenWhalewho said it happened in real life tho? 🤣
The Greatest Movie of ALL TIME.
What happens right after this scene ends?
Salieri : "it's wonderful"
Mozart : *YES YES YES YES YES*
YESYESYESYESYESYESYES.
ORA ORA ORA ORA
@@jeffoliveira7728 MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
Everything is a Jojo reference at this point
Non-stop goose bumps throughout this scene. We see the creative process of a genius in action, and best of all, Salieri gets to be a part of it. It's as if heaven is singing through the weakened Mozart and Salieri gets to write it down!
Don't forget the simultaneous tension and emotion created by Constanze's hurried return to her husband! You want her to make it home to him so BADLY! Come ON, hurry, Stanze, HURRY!!
--BUT, in the end.... ...sigh...
From Roger Ebert's "Great Movies" essay on AMADEUS: "The most moving scene in the movie takes place at Mozart's deathbed, where the great composer, only 35, dictates the final pages of his great "Requiem" to Salieri, sitting at the foot of the bed with quill and manuscript, dragging the notes from Mozart's fevered brain. This scene is moving not because Mozart is dying, but because Salieri, his lifelong rival, is striving to extract from the dying man yet another masterpiece that will illuminate how shabby Salieri's work is. Salieri hates Mozart but loves music more, and cannot live without yet one more work that he can resent for its perfection. True, Salieri plans to claim the work as his own - but for a man like him, that will be one more turn of the screw."
"A now for the real fire"
The original lit
I've seen this scene so many times. Still makes me cry from joy. Between the music itself and the two performances, it's just magical.
*Amadeus:* "Do you believe in it"
*Salieri:* What?
*Amadeus:* fire which never dies, burning you forever
*DRASTIC PAUSE*
Salieri: *OH YES*
What great and powerful writing. Its clear these men both share a burden. Amadeus with his music and care-free nature. His childish demeanor. While Salieri is consumed with fire of jealously and zeal to be Mozart.
Which is not really true about them in historical acounts. That is what I hope this commentor meant by this. kaominx "it is sad because salieri is the only one who understood how genius mozart was." True. Because Salieri really loved Mozart and often healped him when no one else would. The fued between them was the theatrical add in. Truly, they were friends. And Mozrt was not as famous in his life time as he was after death.
Thank you, Torquil! I think you're absolutely right and I didn't notice that at first. No matter if you believe religious ideas to be "true" or "real", they are expressions of human existence, the way they perceive reality and how they experience themselves..
@@constanceboone8071 lolwhat?)))) What a ridiculous nonsense. Someone wasn't paying attention during music history classes if you was attending any of those at all)))
@@yrussq how so?
@Frédéric Chopin I only meant he was not as famous in life as a an adult composer as he was in death. Something that can be common with prodigy's.
What an incredible scene to depict the genius of Mozart
200 year old music, and it’s STILL excellent 🔥
I first saw this film when I was a child and even now thirty years later I still find myself drawn back time and again. The humor, the magesty, the music, the tragedy. And this scene, when the full force comes together. Even as a ten year old boy I knew I was seeing something special, but I'm glad I've lived long enough to realize what a truly extraordinary masterpiece these two amazing actors were crafting.
The devil always makes sure that everyone who understands the language of god leaves the earth early.
words of wisdom
Music is the true language of god.
May be God wants they for him... So the devil not had nothing with this... I think so. Any way, he leaves the earth very early.
100
He died a poor drunken gambler sad
I've just concluded that this movie is perfect.
It took you that long?
Fun Fact: Tom Hulce had an earpiece to listen to a conductor telling him the lines. Right after he said “A Minor” there was a slight pause. He was still listening to his lines.
can we have a source for that
@@GlockenWhale I told him
Both men had tragic ends, one, the greatest musical genius ever dead at 35 and buried in a pauper’s grave and the other, condemned to live for another 30 years and see himself and his music be forgotten.
"And now for the real fire". My favourite moment.
I spit hot fire!!
I have sang the soprano parts to this. Absolutely angelic. When I sang it I was transported.
This scene epitomized the genius of Mozart, that apparently his compositions often were almost fully formed in his head before committing them to paper. The Confutatis from the Requiem showcases Mozart’s quite, at the time, cutting edge mixture of harmony, instruments and tempo for dramatic effect. Whilst it’s true he died in the middle of writing the next piece in the Requiem (Lacrimosa), there is absolutely no evidence that Salieri assisted Mozart in this manner design to push him over the edge. His student Sussmayr finished off the Requiem from notes Mozart left. Still, despite the Hollywood license with the truth, it’s still a stunning scene!
It's based on an old play so creative licence was taken.
Facsimile you can see in Salzburg and Vienna, he writes down the whole thing by ink, there is no Correction whatsoever...He even puts the Legato in the music which he wants..Even the Punctualities of some notes which should be played shortened...So certain is he about what he writes...3 hours Oper will only put down on the Page after it is finished in the head...
In the 3,5hours Opera Don Giovanni, which is a high complex Music of the music history, not one Tune is corrected!! Very nicely written as he copies "from the Original"!! (Don Giovanni is some ca 820 pages in the Partitur!!)
Me inclusive, nobody understands that...This is not Understandable!
Actually it is not really "composing Music"!! No need to seek Perfection, no question as "can I do it better?" Not at all...
Well he had been working on it for quite some time by this point in the story.
This is when Salieri realized that, if he simply tried to learn something from Mozart, he could’ve become the great composer he always wanted to be.
This was the moment that Mozart realized that Salieri actually did have musical talent, and that he would’ve been a great collaborator.
Notice how Mozart dies before the ‘Lacrimosa’ - arguably the most famous bit of his Requiem.
I like to think that - in this movie universe - Salieri finished the score and accomplished his dream: “that his music would be remembered forever.”
i like how mozart can just summon instrument whenever he wants
This movie is the most epic movie of all time in my book... I can watch it over and over without getting sick of it. There is not a single scene which you can discard from this movie, just as Salieri said: “Displace one note and there would be diminishment. Displace one phrase and the structure would fall.”
I like the film but I really hate opera, so a lot of those opera hall scenes drag horribly for me. I’ve tried the theatrical version too.
I first saw this movie in my early teens. Then rediscovered it again much later. It has become my all time favorite movie. I'm close to 50 now. This is good stuff. The music and the drama.
Remember watching this in 1984...leaving the theater speechless for the rest of the night...dreaming the play again... and returning into present just the next day... It was haunting... still today, 40 years after.
I read - and agree - that by not "explaining it to us" it was much more powerful to watch this language of music...wow i love this scene
At the end Mozart doesn't even seem to recite the notes. He just sings and Salieri writes it all down. And that's what gives me goosebumps really. I was so saddened when he died. He could have become a better person and most importantly, reach the peak of his success. I think that if heaven truly exists then he has a place in it. Right next to the Lord. Playing music for him. Maybe he regrets dying so early. But that's how life is and at the end of the day, he became one of the best musicians of all time. He was simply a genius.
He says the notes on A or on D and then sings the phrase since this is how composers/arrangers think of phrases
I am fully aware that this movie is a completely fictional account of Mozart’s life but it is the movie that truly introduced me to Mozart’s operas enough to want to watch them. For that I will be eternally grateful. I own blu-rays of “Le Nozze di Figaro, Don Giovanni, and The Magic Flute that this movie will forever sit next to.
I wouldn't call it "completely fictional."
The rivalry between him and Salieri certainly is exaggerated, if not fabricated, however many aspects of this film are true to the spirit of Mozart: he did have a childish and obscene sense of humor. He was a womanizer. He did compose effortlessly and had it all completed in his head. He did have a strained relationship with his father. And he was supremely confident in his abilities, which may have come across as arrogance to his contemporaries... I think this film captures brilliantly the spirit of Mozart and of the times he lived and composed in. It may not be a one-to-one rendering of exact sequence of events, but that's the nature and magic of cinema. This was never meant to be a documentary, but an experience for a large audience to celebrate Mozart's life and music.
So damn hard to pick a favorite moment in the movie, but this is definitely one of them. Mozart at his lowest low near the end yet with his musical genius not dulled at all, Salieri in the final stages of his plan as he puts to pen the requiem, the two of them back and forth on notes & music with said music playing in the background, and in the background a sense of dread and betrayal as Mozart's earlier comment of considering Salieri as a friend is still fresh, how Mozart never knew that the one who sped up his destruction was right in front of him.
While I wouldn't say Amadeus is my absolute favorite film, I would at least put it in my top 5.
Jesus Christ this scene was pure brilliance.
This scene alone understands the music of a genius more than the whole movie of Maestro
This motion picture, especially this sequece, has had a profound impact on me. I have loved Mozart since age 4 when I first heard one of his piano sonatas. I saw Amadeus at age 10. And it has been my favorite film ever since.
Easily one of the greatest scenes in all of cinema. Amadeus is among my top 5 (or 3) movies ever
Imagine this scene without the music on the soundtrack. This is pure cinema. Never matched since.
One of the best scenes ever made. Its PERFECT. Like Requiem.
One of the best scenes in cinema/movies/film.
I have seen it at least 30 times and I am still amazed, upside down...
Such brilliance. I am humbled to even hear his music.
I keep coming back to this scene. So many different layers, little details, the acting, the writing (both script and music), everything is so capturing. Like I could, and probably will in the future, continue commenting on all the things I love in JUST this clip by itself.
amazing actors ♥️
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart was the greatest pianist of his time and will be the one and only greatest composer of all melodic music.
Bach, Handel, Vivaldi the most mathematical based composers. Mozart was the next step in Classical Composition which is more modern, more melodic and less mathematical. There is no one like Bach and I believe he is the most ingenious composer of all time.
Beethoven: am i a joke to you?
@@danfuerthgillis4483 time to take weed bach overrated composer 👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿
Chopin and Liszt are considered the greatest pianists.
They started as rivals and ended up making a masterpiece together.
That's how you end a movie.
A scene that shows us the composition of a music but still so beautifully written and with an amazing editing. For sure, my Top 5 movies of all time.
My boy Mozart deadass said “Now for the real FIRE” before anybody 🤞🏼🤞🏼
base trombones coming at 2:32 is JUST SO DROP DEAD GENIUS. Thanks Mozart, and Mr Forman for expanding on this.
Don't forget to thank Peter Shaffer for creating the entire play and movie
"D Sharp?"
"Yes of Course!"
yea, cos that was so clear
The best part is that there isn't a single D Sharp in that entire phrase of music.
He said G sharp, not D.
@@tesscrelli783 The best part is that the phrase of music he just sang, actually ends with a G sharp, extactly as he says it. (Rather than D sharp, as you misheard). And it sounds coherent that he may ask for confirmation on that particular note, which might not be the most obvious one.
@@librepenseur250 Yea you're right, he does say G sharp. I didn't fact check and just replied to the original commenter, who said D sharp. My bad!
It’s been awhile, and it just hit, this level of “technical detail” could likely never be in a movie today. And yet (even for those who don’t know an ostinato from an arpeggio), it speaks beautifully.
*It goes with the harmony*
This is one of the few scenes in popular cinema history that accurately depicts the process of writing classical music, and a brief glimps into it's structure. Sure, most of it goes over our heads, but what a world to explore.
If this doesn't get you into classical music, nothing will
My mom and I watched this together and I thought this was one of the best movies I’ve seen, and she didn’t like it at all. I still think she’s crazy. This is an amazing film, a true Masterpiece.
I don't remember if I've watched a greater movie than this!
It's literally drags you to the era of the most influential composer of all times.
This is not s description of composing scene but analysis of his work. Splendid!
Confutatis Maledictis is my favorite piece by Mozart and this is a brilliant scene.
Absolutely all of it in his head and needed to get it out.... needing an outlet to get his incredible music in his head out for our world. Just amazing he did it;)
Mozart has become one of my favorite pianist and composers thanks to this movie 😀
Salieri, much like Mozart, hears the music in his head. He even understands where Mozart is going with the piece. They are very much equals, yet Saleri’s feelings of inadequacy hampers him from realizing, and internalizing it. Even as he engages with Mozart in the creative process.
One of the best movies for people who appreciate music.
The way I have always saw this scene was that, this is the time Salieri’s life long prayer has finally being answered, “Let me celebrate you glory through music”.
Led by Mozart, Salieri stepped into the divine realm of music. He was able to create the music the way Mozart does by the end.
As a mortal, Salieri was standing on the same peak as Mozart and witnessing Mozart’s ascending to heaven. I LOVE THIS MOVIE.
the perfect utilization of sound cues.
This is my all most favorite song. In High school Choir we sang this song at the competition of school districts and we got 1st place, because of this song. We sang it with so much Passion.!!! Will never forget that 😍💖🙏