Galaxy Trucker: A Great Game, or Just a Novelty? | The Top 100
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 พ.ค. 2024
- We’re back with yet another episode of Shut Up & Sit Down’s very own self-imposed sisyphean task: The Top 100!
00:00 - Welcome back!
00:55 - Tom explains the game!
03:49 - Discussion and flashbacks!
19:47 - Ranking the game!
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Last time I played this, one player went "I'll make a LINE SHIP so I'll dodge everything!" - first event was a big meteor from the side
A moment that will live long in my heart:
My friend built an astonishingly good ship in the final round, twice as big and twice as sturdy as anyone else at the table. We all cooed in appreciation. Then we (and he) realised it had precisely zero cargo space.
They're just gonna be trucking but not hauling.
Galaxy Cruisin'
I often do this by accident. My son always has too much cargo space and not enough anything else. It is unclear whether either "strategy" is definitely bad.
Space Truckin! Yeah Yeah YEAH SPACE TRUCKIN! ;p
Tom saying “we don’t call them slay the spire likes” instead of “we don’t call them dominion likes” is the part of this video when I felt the oldest. Also we kinda did call them dominion likes for a while.
We definitely still call them dominion-likes.
"And that doesn't mean that it's at the bottom forever... a lot of other stuff will go above it." Tom's mouth speaks the truth despite his intended meaning.
hahahaha
Galaxy Trucker Stories:
- A ship bisected twice
- Someone winning because people kept trying to invade their murder maze
- All the batteries, no components to use them
- That one guy who actually looks at the obstacles who everyone boos
- Being told by their sibling to never present this game in front of them after their ship got bisected twice
I love this horrible cruel game.
At our table, the guy who looks at the obstacles announces big stuff to the table. Like "big meteors from the right." Which is great until that one time he lies and we all believe him and wasted all our space pointing guns at nothing.
Looking forward to the day this series is finished at which time I will actually be able to make my own spaceships and flog interstellar pipes
Keep it PG
Lol, this is a good coment sir.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Looking forward to this tired joke to be retired.
"We're gonna rank 100 games!
Anyways we spent 3 minutes debating 3rd place. "
I personally look forward to the hour and a half ranking segment for position 90.
Sorry Matt - that engine placement at 5:25 is ILLEGAL and you *must* make your ship entirely legal before taking off. You would have had to remove it and all the pieces hanging off it.
But thanks for another great video! GT is one of my favorites :)
You modified your box when you attempted to break the record for
most games reviewed in 10 minutes. But then Quinns did a flashback…and, well, the rest is history. 😁
My biggest problem with Galaxy Trucker is that it is, in my opinion, more fun to be bad at the game than it is to be good at it, and for a long time it was my favorite game so I played it so much that I got good at it. Luckily I then got the Big Expansions and became bad at the game again.
It's easy to scale the difficulty by changing the amount of time you have to work with. As a digital GT veteran, when I've played with new players I've given them a head start during which I keep my eyes closed. Works great, and for every possible skill level in one game!
Being bad at games is a choice: live your worst life!
The solution we've gone with to remain bad at the game is to drink heavily before playing, really revitalized it after we got too good
I really love this series. The deep dive on these games and extended discussion, with the slotting in of each one among the previous is so much more nuanced than other top 100 lists which speed through it with no real comparison with its neighbors. Slow and steady wins the race in this case. Thank you.
Love this game dearly, nothing beats watching your ship get sliced in two by a meteorite.
Before Gloomhaven came out, I would have told you that Galaxy Trucker was my favourite board game ever made, its probably top 5 now, but its hard to place as I haven't played it recently. It was always fun, sure its a bit random, but you can prepare for it, the expansions add a good amount of additional things to prepare for to give that spice of having your ship blown to pieces back to veteran players who have mastered the base game. Its honestly more fun to lose at this game than to win, cheering on your single remaining crew member with a single engine and one useless battery just trying to get to the end.
Did I miss the mention of the preview mechanic? Seeing what cards are in the flight forecast is EVERYTHING to making the game reward skill and experience. Galaxy trucker is my favorite game, so I’ve played it a lot. Since my 15th ish? Play, I haven’t lost a single time (probably 20-30+ plays.) That consistency shows to me that the game is only random at a low skill/ power level? But 15 plays is also a lot to ask for someone to fully “get” the game and how to truly make the most of its mechanics
First off, Matt, you SCOUNDREL! 6:35, you may only flip over a tile once you hove it over your player board. No turing just where they lay!
And then, this is one of my absolute favorite games and one i always have to warn new players beforehand. "Look I don't know why, but apparently I'm very good at this game and will probably end up with thrice the points of you guys combined. But I can't help it somehow... But its really fun. Still want to play?" Most still say yes, luckily. And IF my hubris and arrogance turn my ship into mushed peas, I find it even more hilarious. Like a villain you just like to see fail.
I've played hundreds of games on the app, so on the rare occasions I've got to play the physical board game _with_ new players, I've imposed a handicap on myself. Depending on the round, I give the other players x amount of time as a head start (on the 3rd round it might be a full hourglass) where I keep my eyes closed until my game starts. This handicap is easy to scale for different players in the same game, based on their individual amount of hubris. This brings back the tension, rush and mistake-making from my first games! And it's great, because as (I think) the manual states and as I fully believe, the game is much more fun when you're doing badly! Building a perfect ship in GT might be a fun goal to work towards, but once you finally achieve it, you realize the game just becomes boring 😅
Thank you for saying it. I would've done otherwise. And even if it was legal, the engine would've destroyed the cargo hold. The one at 6.58 is also illegal with the gun pointing at the other gun.
Galaxy Trucker is perhaps my favourite game to lose. And an amazing story maker:
My favourite, was this one time where my big phase 3 ship got so damaged, it only had three pieces left: A single guy in a luxury cabin, an engine, and a gun. And I was like: "Well, this is a ship! 💪🏻" Later I also lost the engine - but as there were no "Open space" events after that, he got home by inertia. Everyone clapped (as I lost badly on points).
When people talk about how amazing Galaxy Trucker is I get the same reaction that SUSD gets when people tell them about how amazing Deep Sea Adventure is.
Fortunately, you're both wrong! Those games rule!
@@sshrdlu Yes, both spectacular.
"I wish I'd put it the right way round...because then it would make the ship go forward." Matt is a UK national treasure.
I appreciate SU&SD for having interesting conversations in the video, the website and the comments 😊
It's crazy, my friends latched onto galaxy trucker from literally the first play, they absolutely love it and ask me to bring it to pretty much every game night. I personally think it's too chaotic, but I'm outvoted. Somehow it's a crowd pleaser like none other.
I look forward to Matt being forced to slog through a game of Twilight Struggle.
18:50 aren't the other pieces still connected even after losing that open connected piece? The life support on the bottom should still connect everything.
Anyway, love the game, love your discussion. It's not about being the best at the game, it is about seeing who survives the chaos. I love it.
Looks like the case to me. There are two horizontal connectors right above each other so that one strike should not have taken out the whole left side.
I was looking for this comment thinking the same thing.
yeah it seems its so brutal to them because theyre playing a little off and making things soooo punishing
Shut up and sit down are not sticklers for the rules
@@codykraz I agree they are willing to adapt rules to games but they also often take the time to intend to get rules correct.
I have the original and it's easily in my top 5 games of all time. Though it's larger, the 1st edition has the advantage of all those expansions (though I do want all the stuff in the 2nd as an expansion). Those expansions, in my eyes, add enough intrigue to make this an "every weekend" game. (Though, to be fair, I don't think a single game exists that I'd 100% want to play every single game session.)
The Rough Roads expansion adds ways to handicap players like me who are comfortable with the game and give us new wrenches in the works to make it feel new again. One adds enemies that can board your ship and steal goods, set bombs, and kill crew (and you can fight back). The expansions also add in solar panels, mixed components, cryo pods, and all sorts of fun stuff to get confused over as well as other ship designs to have fun with. There's just so much to like and so much variety.
Also, I should probably mention that Quinns and Paul are why I got it in the first place. Thanks so much, SU&SD, for introducing me to this wonderful game (and my favorite game of all time: Archipelago).
This is one of the first games that shut up and sit down turned me on to, and it is a masterpiece. Gotta call up the crew to get a game of this in soon...
I just love this series so much. I feel like this series is the best non-review thing you've done since The Opener.
I saw many rules violations in this video haha but I agree it is a fun game! I won't be the guy who highlights all of the things :P
Hahaha fair play, however may I ask what the violations were? (coming from a person who's interested in playing GT but has never had the opportunity to) that way, you aren't highlighting the violations, but instead are answering a question a fellow viewer had :D
@LauraDelvecchio off the top of my head (since it was a while since I watched) You cannot place a tile directly in the space in front of a gun, or behind an engine. When his ship got hit he took off way more of his ship than he should have since it was legally connected. When moving backwards on the race board you never share spaces and should jump over other people.... etc etc 😀
@@xCriticalStrikex hahaha what a great memory! Thank you for the clarifications! This game looks incredibly fun lol at least looking at it from the outside. Appreciate your reply!
I shuddered when Tom said "Slay-the-spire-like" instead of "Dominion-like"
Yeah wtf Tom! >:-(
But Slay the Spire is… so much better
@@kylesmorgabord5592 It's a videogame!
@@Doomclown not anymore
@@kylesmorgabord5592 Dominion is the original deckbuilder, every other game in the genre is descended from it directly or indirectly
It consists of two separate parts. Both highly luck based. That does not mean it can not be fun to play. The good thing is that it is so fun and silly you don't feel too bad when you lose. Classic beer and pretzels game. Great after a long day of WotR.
Our local game group did a "best games that people hate" list and this was up there with Ticket to Ride (which is understandable) and Shifty Eyed Spies (which is heresy - it's not the designer's fault that boardgamers dislike eye contact!)
ah, regular trucker 2
nothing will quite beat the OG regular trucker for me, though
Cannot flipping beleive you guys sang Kevin Eldon's Macadaynaoo(?) song, mere hours after me and my mates listened to it. Kudos as heck
Machadarnes, Abutetron, Abutetratetratetron…
@@NikNewark I'll assume your spelling is correct
Galaxy Trucker is one of 3 games in my collection that I got because of a SUSD review
Galaxy Trucker is probably in my top 10 games of all time and I -would- pull it out every session if I could. I think the 'it's just chaos and unfair' is a bit overblown, you can absolutely get good enough at the game to reliably make it through even the incredibly random set of space cards, although once you add in every expansion and add-on that gets FAR more difficult.
I agree, it becomes about learning how to build a ship that’s good enough to have a decent chance of making it to the finish line in approximately one piece, maybe with a little cargo. And also knowing when to flip the sand timers during the build phase so that everyone who’s trying to make the perfect ship starts panicking and making mistakes.
Nothing goes with Galaxy Trucker quite like a Music 2000 Reference.
The amount of fun I had with this game puts it above the other two for me 😁 glad to see Matt still loves it
This game is one of those that is so much better when a computer does all the setup and rule checking. I play it on my phone all the time. I do not have to setup anything, count anything or figure out if I broke a rule. Makes it so much easier in games like this where you would get down time and confusion if you had a human dealer.
My brother bought me the deluxe version of this game (which I had previously never heard of) and it may be the single best birthday present he has ever given to me. Absolutely my favourite game.
Another brilliant video by the SU&SD crew. I’ve never played Galaxy Trucker but I really, really want to now.
in fairness, for years deck builders were basically called "it's a Dominion with..."
loving this list.
This game seems perfect for a mad Max reskin. Build your vehicle to cross the desert to the next town while attacked by marauders.
Oh man,insta buy here
Galaxy Truckers is one of the GOATs on my list.
galaxy of all truckers...
So it was you who suggested i buy this game those many years ago. And it was the BEST PURCHASE I'VE EVER MADE. I bought the big box with many expansions. I have literally played this for hundreds of hours. It's been a hit every time i open the box.
I normally play without the timer during construction and we home rule ship rebuilding at the cost of starting position. In exchange i add extra cards to the adventure deck.
I remember getting level 4 missions with level 1 ships! Some of us even survived! Oh it's great fun.
Same here, but my wife and i have played it like 20 times and backed off to keep it fresh and fun.
A true modern classic. Bring back Vlaada!
Also, there is no such thing as a boring round of GT. My favourite card event is always Open Space. A glint seems to appear in everyones eyes as they rev their engines. It is a feeling of "hey lets see what this baby can do" as everyone powers their engines.
I‘m absolutely loving this approach to a Top100 list!
Pictomania (also by Vlaada Chvatil) has been pulled out at our parties lately, and it hits that same magic in relation to the timer mechanic. Having all players in control of how long the round takes is a huge factor in determining your strategy. In both Pictomania and Galaxy Truckers, I've seen players take the most minimalistic actions possible just so they can take the "first" award and get more points. And equally so, they're not always punished for doing something like that. Everyone, on average, ends up taking home the same number of points. The fast/risky player loses some, but not all of their points, and the slow player ensures that every point they take in, they never give up.
Except that one game of Galaxy Trucker where we pulled "explosive cargo" rough roads, but my cargo never actually blew up. A classic of all time!
Agricola is in my top 5 board games of all time, so I would be devastated if you had put Galaxy Trucker above Agricola. I was able to breathe a sigh of relief.
Always fun :) thank you for sharing
The game is skill based, you will get better at building ships that can survive their journey into space the more you play.
For sure, there's plenty of skill. But like poker, it has the feature that even the most skilled player ever will just get completely wrecked occasionally by a bad beat. And, unlike poker, it has the feature that when you are a skilled player and that happens to you it's always hilarious.
For my birthday I went to the game store and just picked up a random game that looked interesting, "Fit to Print" (not knowing the full mechanics). I was surprised to find out the gameplay was a LOT like Galaxy Trucker. Played it tonight with my wife and we had a blast! Then I log on here to check out my sub videos and see this video posted!! :D
Space Trucker 1: This rig has everything!
Space Trucker 2: Except engines.
Space Trucker 1: Huh…knew we forgot something.
We play this fairly regularly, it is good fun, should not be taken seriously.
Galaxy trucker isn't in the top 100 for me, it's in the top 10.
SO many people who "aren't really into boardgames" have loved this game while at my table. It's light, it's funny, it's fun when you're losing, it's one of the few games that actually has a functioning handicap system so experienced people can play with new players...
It has one of the best manuals of all time.
... but get the anniversary edition, the extra bits are super good.
Really enjoying this series!
Galaxy Trucker is one of my favourites and I will always understand why some people hate it. It's swingy and unfair but if everyone is on the same page about the upcoming chaos it really is a magical experience
This was great lol, can't wait to see more!
I own the entire old version.
Its great
I play it rarely to keep it fresh.
I’m so invested in this series
18:44 Tom shouldn't have lost half his ship there since it was still connected by the life support system right behind it :D
The one thing about galaxy trucker that kills it for me is that App is more fun, faster, more dynamic, with fun challenges etc, that I never have a desire to play the physical version again
For this game to go from good to great, I recommend two things: The BIG EXPANSION that adds a completely silly difficulty level, and a lot of alcohol.
When someone finds out I like games and asks me what my favorite is, an impossible question, this is the one I pick. It's so weird and funny and chaotic.
Also, it has an _extremely_ high skill ceiling. If you play it every week instead of every year, you get to a point where someone getting pasted is pretty rare. The game's expansions are mostly about making the game harder, because if you've played the game enough that you feel like adding an expansion, you're probably not getting wrecked very often. The expansions sure fix _that_ glitch.
I absolutely love this game, and will always be down to play it when someone suggests it. That said, they're right, it's not one you're going to play every night, so I'm fine with it's current position.
Little known faux fact... if your ship in the game is damaged by the Reference Pear, SUSD will mock you mercilessly.
I just played Galaxy Truckers last night. Still a great game, and the 2nd edition is a great little update.
I managed to get this at a 50% discount and I don't regret it. It works very well at different player numbers and it's fun with the right group. But yeah, it's a "party" game for sure. Grab a beer and get ready to swear when you realize your errors and bad luck and scream of joy when you see others suffer xD
I am absolutely loving this series, the format is fantastic. But at this rate, ye won't reach 100 games until 2032 lol.
So you're saying they've secured an 8 year content pipeline? Devious!
Galaxy Trucker is one of the first games I got from this channel, it bounced off a lot of friends that only played Uno & party games. But I still had a lot of fun introducing new people to it, it went pretty well with my D&D group but they never really wanted to play it again over other games sadly. It has a pretty great pitch of a spacey jigsaw puzzle that you need to finish fast.
It is a great Tabletop Sim game though, fits the niche of mostly focusing on your board with light interaction w/ other players.
I played it once, and while i enjoyed myself, ive never felt a craving to play it ever again. Escape is my go to real time game.
One of my absolute favorite games. I especially appreciate this newer edition that cleans things up a bit and makes it significantly less painful to teach so I can start with this and move to the stupid overstuffed set of the original and its expansions once people are comfortable with the idea of the game.
Galaxy Trucker is in my top 10. Adooooooore this game!
"Top 100"
Tom's fingers: 001
This game is one I being wanting to play so for so long!
Rules lawyer must speak! Matt! You can’t have one of the cannons installed without a free space in front of it! You are firing into your own ship! Same as the thrusters have to have an empty space behind them too. They’re both fine to be in the middle of a ship, but they constrain your design if they aren’t at the outside of your haphazard amalgamation.
Have we any thoughts on the expansion for this as well?
I liked the part where Matt said "it's truckin' time!", and then proceeded to truck all over Tom.
1:26 we call the flight phase the consequence phase.
Galaxy Trucker is a game that teaches you humility 😂
Ok , reprint pitch , Galaxy Trucker as boardgame design sim. You build the best boardgame out of loads of mechanics and the each round plays each players boardgame and the one that breaks last is the winner ?
My main problem with Galaxy Trucker is it gets less interesting the more experienced you get, until you're just coasting through with perfectly constructed ships. Had loads of fun for the first dozen or so games but then lost interest.
My utter hatred of playing Agricola makes me feel so very alone sometimes.
This game is funny and we had some good times with it, but at some point you look at it and think "I'd like to play a game instead." The outcome here is always known and the joke is always the same - everyone fails miserably.
18:44
Only one tile would be lost from that.
Funniest rulebook ever. Not necessarily a good rulebook, but very funny.
I love this game and can't find anyone to play because no one wants to put themselves through torture for fun.
That would have given my SUCH anxiety as a kid.
The mechanism is made of human material, and Quinn was not in the episode... what did you do to Quinn?
Please remind me where that 'Macadenu, macadenu...' song comes from!! It's a comedy series, I recognise it, and I'll never know peace until I find it!! 13:55
Look around you - Music of the Future.
@@shutupandsitdown THANK YOU!
THIS GAME IS IN MY TOP 10 100%
I love galaxy trucker. Its one of my favorite games to just kill an hour with. What I will say, is that the game gets worse when you get better at it. Once you really stop making construction errors when you put your ship together, things tend to be a lot less wild and exciting. The best experiences in this game are when someone makes a seemingly small mistake, says, oh well, it'll probably be fine, and then rolls into their destination with 2 pieces left. I've started making my runs harder, taking 10-12 encounter cards instead of the standard 8, just to make it more likely that someone gets blown to pieces.
Something very odd for me with this game is: I love it, but at one point I came to understand it, (I think around the 4th or 5thi time I played it), and ever since I have always won, which... I enjoy winning as much as anyone, of course, but in this one I kind a wish I didn't. So nowadays what I do is introduce it to other people, and to achieve some losses I engage in wacky stuff (without letting the rest of the table know I'm handicapping myself), like never looking at the upcoming events, or going for "no x thing in the ship" or whatever
In my opinion, Galaxy Trucker is even better with a house rule that you don't lose during the flight. Instead, your crewless, engineless husk can still make it to the end. It just eliminates the "feels bad" moments, and generates some laughs when an autonomous drone with some guns manages to earn more than a great spaceship with everything in it... beside cargo units.
That's how it was taught to me--I haven't checked what the rulebook says on the story, but I was pretty sure that's what happens. You just don't make money off of it because you took forever to get there.
There is however an upcoming VR galaxy trucker indie game which looks great
8:18 hopefully y’all know that you can’t be tied in position with someone else, you just fall behind them
Did y'all not mention the forecasts system? I think it's so important and oftentimes very overlooked! There may be a degree of randomness given the order of things that happen, but players should be building their ships according to what they see in the forecast! And it makes for both a more predictable time, but also a more chaotic one has all players are fighting over the same pieces to grab from the pool!
We love galaxy trucker....with martinis..Wheeeee
15:47 "Agricola out" sounds weird to me (only the first time).
Galaxy Trucker is exactly one half of a great game. Now, whether you think it's the first half of the game, or the second half of the game, is going to say a lot about your taste in board games. ;)
Galaxy Trucker is my second favourite game that I do not like. I just don't like how it works, but I love the concept.
"the sweet, sweet pain of Agricola"
Great pic
i got it to play with my kids we had some fun with it. but a year later its never been dragged out for a game night