The Haoko family has collapsed. What will happen to the gorilla forest? UenoZoo／Western Gorilla
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モニターの反射···なるほど！ 冬になって反射角が変わったり、お客さんが減ったりでハオコさんから見えやすくなってるんですかねえ。上野での人気を競うシャンシャンが夜中にそっと細工したのか…。
😁シャンシャンの置き土産ですか・・・出国が伸びましたね。わたしもシャンシャンがいなくなるのは困るのです。
ほとんどのお客さんをシャンシャンで足止めできるので・・・いつもありがとうシャンシャン。😂
What am I missing here? The subtitles say he got into a fight with the family and they have been inside since the fight but the comments keep referring to the skulls across from their enclosure. The way he keeps looking at the skulls I do think the zookeepers should remove them from their sight and it’s incredibly insensitive to put them directly across from their enclosure if those are gorilla skulls. Either way, I’m very confused as to why zookeepers haven’t noticed the separation in the group...If you’re going to open a facility that houses any animals then it’s your responsibility to take care of them. If the facility is incapable of taking care of them properly then allow the family to go to a sanctuary that can take care of them.
I think when there is only one silverback and several females that cooperate the females have the power. It is nothing the staff can do except consider changing dynamics by moving someone and that it several year process because of breeding genetics.
I think he was at window because he was waiting for visitors.
totally agree Sammy the zoo acting irresponsible towards the feelings of gorilla as a father and protector. 👎
@@NaomiCurtisyou know that is how gorillas live in the wild. One silverback with multiple females. The females don't have a y power at all. This is normal for groups to have a squabble and they will avoid the silverback for a while. Of course haoko is very aggressive and he bites one of them at least once a week, so they probably don't trust him.
@@paulroberts7429what do you expect the zoo to do about it. This is the other gorillas that are tired of haoko's aggression. This is normal and will work out in time. The zoo cant exactly sit haoko down and talk to him about it. 😂😂😂
I hope things are back to normal soon. Gorillas are so sensitive and intelligent. 😌
The skulls images is driving Haoko nervous and the zoo should remove it from the windows
ゴリラはシルバーバックが絶対と思っていたら人間みたいな事もするのですね、びっくりしました。
本当にそうですね。そしてゴリラが繊細だというのが良くわかります。
Poor Haoko trying to protect his family the zoo needs to cover or place the Human and Gorilla skulls out of their sight.
Haoko looks like a lost child. Sweet boy. He does not realize his outbursts put the troop at risk.
can you imagine having that many family members and that small of a house yourself and their size is so much bigger their need to swing from the rafters is so much different than us I would go crazy in a month personally
This can affect their Psychological behavior it can affect their social lives as well.......I can see that Haoko's felt the Threat that's why he did the chest beating....He don't feel comfortable....this can cause harm to his Psychological health Please this is not funny...it doesn't entertainingly at all....so sad to see this brave silverback to have that fear in his eyes and he can't even do anything to prove that he is there to fight and won't draw back....
リキ君やトトさんまでもストライキって…🥺一時的にハオコさんを離したら…戻れなくなるのかな？😥
お互いにストレスが凄そうだし、室内の清掃とか大変そうですね😭
素人はオロオロヤキモキするばかりです😰
人工保育でもないハオコが人の方ばかりに寄ってくるので頭がポカンとしてしまいました。
理由を教えてもらわなかったら寝込んでいるところです。😵🤯
@@GreatApesZoo さま
寝込んでいる暇はありません😤
多くの類人猿を発信してください🤗
(オニより)
目が覚めました。🙈🙉🙊🐵
ハオくんのドラミング、笑っちゃいました😊
顔がサイコー🤣
やはり表情が豊かなのはハオコですね。🥰
This is so sad, I hope things get back to normal for this family 🦍💝
Q lindo Haoko bello cuidando su territorio💗💗💗💗😍😍😍😘😘😘😘
18:47
Meu Deus, a expressão de Haoko !!! Impressionante.
最近は第一放飼場が工事をやってるので第二放飼場にいるんですが、チョット前には家族全員出て来てたみたいですので既に家族仲は修復された模様です🦍🦍
ハオコさん良かったですね🦍🦍
ほんとうですね、ありがとうございます。
また行ってみます。時間制の予約必要なのが困ってます。😢
@@GreatApesZoo 上野はスグ予約埋まるから全然行けないんですよねぇ…ワタクシもそろそろハオコさん達に会いたいところです🦍
He feel strange that no visitors come to see him.
😂😂😂
ハオコパパ 一人寂しいぃ‼️🦍
ハオコのどの行動が家族を怒らせたんでしょうね！ 誰もパパっ子はいないのかな❣️⁉️
トトさん ハオコと仲良くなるチャンスなのに😀🌸 トトさんあまり ハオコを好きじゃないのかな⁉️
みんな ハオコに振り回されないで自由に生きたいのかな🦍🦍 このような家族は初めて見ましたw でもきっとりきくんや子供達が仲裁となってくれると願いたいです。 たった一人のパパだから💖❤️🦍🦍😀
チンパンジーは例外ですが、ゴリラもオランウータンも発情期以外は鬱陶しい存在なんでしょうね。仲が良い例外カップルも存在しますが、そういう立場なんでしょうね。😢
特に動物園では、野生と違いメスが少ないので誰かが発情している状況というのがないですから欲求不満になるのかも。
@@GreatApesZoo ハオコさんショーケースの飾っている 人間とゴリラの頭部に骸骨を見てうるようですね。何度も確認してガラスドンもしてますが 最近骸骨が置かれたんでしょうか？！
@@GraceloveAnimals 骸骨はずっと置いてあります。何を見ているのか正確には分かりませんが、kyo
様の情報をもとに推測してみました。返信コメントにあります。
Gracelove I don't understand what's happening in Haoko's group...would you mind if I can have a small clarification of what was happened....?Thank you please
@@marieldeguzman6193 Yes in a video says, there is a fight in family few month ago and after that family stay away from father Haoko
So he is alone in enclosure and family stay inside.
6:30- but I asked channel owner “great ape zoo” that he may be scared of skull of Gorilla?! He is looking through glass again and again.
And she answered that skull was always there and it seems he is watching not skull but family monitoring is reflect to glass and he sees gorillas there. And he display to that gorilla reflection.
In my opinion, gorillas is not scared of reflection gorilla in a monitor(TV Screen), it is more likely skull.
We do not know the answer, and someone says Haoko family is okay now and Haoko is not alone now😀🦍💖
Poor traumatized gorilla. He's all alone and have no idea where the other ones are. In the wild the other gorillas can't hide somewhere he can't get to, so this is just extra unnatural.
Yeah it really seems like it's the skulls. He is ignoring everything else and just staring at them, then walking away for a little bit, then coming back to check if they are still there. He is ignoring EVERYTHING except that direction and is clearly worried about something. I am guessing he keeps walking back and forth between his family and the 'threat'.
Yes, it's the skulls, the zoo needs to move them if they want things to go back to normal. He is trying all he knows to run the threatening skulls off, I'm not a fan of them myself. Him and his brother are serious about protecting their family. Great silverback males from Kibali.
I wonder how long they have been up. It's obvious that he is worried about tbem.
@@evo2542 maybe he never noticed them, a lot of gorillas turn their backs to viewing areas or they were moved to this area as a new display.
I have same thoughts with you guys....I hope the zoo will considered Haoko's feeling....
I think he's looking for the visitors because that is the time that they usually started coming in and he's looking and I think he's bored look at his arm posture but you know again we don't think like them necessarily. but the skulls had been there all along so I don't see why that would be the issue at this point.
家長ハオコの本領発揮！全てはこれからだよ、頑張れ父ちゃん！
ハオコ！家族をまとめてちょうだい！
It's the same way his younger brother Shabani acted when they noticed Ryu chimpanzee males harrassment of his family. They are the protectors and he will make them do as he says to protect them, it's the gorilla way. Obviously Haoko never noticed the skulls and now is in protection mode, to fight and find a solution. He looks up and down hits the walls, charges and the threat isn't leaving. The zoo could really use this video as a powerful teaching tool to other zoos. Kibali raised strong males, he taught them to love and protect, they are perfect examples of silverbacks.
Grandma P exactly!!! I love Kibali off springs also brother Bawui the oldest brother of Haoko and Shabani. But Ryu and his Father and Son is hilarious, Shabani is not phase by them and it's just so funny. I know Shabani be thinking now look at those fools... lol
@@reginavanellis4948 But at 1st Shabani was upset, he lost a lot of weight. The early video's show him guarding his family and went to check outthe situation several times from the ground and up on the tower. There is video where Shabani has his family sitting at the wall, I thinkthe women got tired of it and Nene said "Im going sunbathing, you keep watching" lol. I love the Ryu family, they aren't as smart as they think they are, but all they have is sand. Poor Riki will be just like Ryu, I believe he will be bigger than Ryu, hopefully not as naughty. Love all of these primates.
Just because they are keeping their distance from haoko, doesn't mean that the group has collapsed. They are used to this, haoko fights with someone in the family at least once a week. If they were in the wild the whole family would probably leave him for another silverback.
That’s so sad just read about the fight 😢
I have seen this before. Silverbacks do not like skulls. At another zoo, a silverback ran up to a child that was holding up a pamphlet that looked like a skull. He roared and attacked a window. Clearly Haoko is terrified of those two spooky skulls. This could even be why the others are not coming out of the room--he may not let them. Please call the zoo and advise him that he is continually staring at the skulls. -Thank you for sharing this video.
私はこれを以前に見たことがあります。 シルバーバックは頭蓋骨が好きではありません。 別の動物園では、頭蓋骨のようなパンフレットを持っている子供にシルバーバックが駆け寄った。 彼はとどろき、窓を攻撃した。 明らかに、ハオコはそれらの2つの不気味な頭蓋骨を恐れています。 これは、他の人が部屋から出てこない理由でさえあるかもしれません-彼は彼らを許さないかもしれません。 動物園に電話して、彼が絶えず頭蓋骨を見つめていることを彼に知らせてください。 -このビデオを共有していただきありがとうございます。
Thank you, too.
It was Richard that attacked the window with the kid with the pamphlet.
Yes, it's the skulls.
He gave the answer above in one of my comments, Haoko and family are in their new home and back to being happy, it was the video monitor he was watching.
@@grandmap3389 Great news! He was wearing himself out. And the family appeared confused and bored.
Perhaps he is looking for an escape from his captivity 🦍
懐かしい…これ、1年も前なんですね。今では、新たな家族も加わりそうで本当に良かったです！今考えると、流氷家族みたいになってますね。
1年間ってはやいですね。どんどん加速していきます。来年もよろしくお願いします。
こんにちは。１０月末にリキがモモコのお腹にしがみついて、子ども達がモモコ取り囲んで逃げて来た瞬間にいました。その後、厳しい表情のハオコがギャラリー威嚇して来て、でも人間は喜んで歓声あげたり、手を大きく振ったり今日の映像の様な状態です。その後何回か気になって観覧しましたが、興奮するハオコと、それを見て喜ぶ人間。何か対策してほしいです。
私はちょうど10月中旬位から行っていないので何が何だかわかりませんでした。ハオコが何に対して神経質になっているのか・・・
単なる工事で第二放飼場へ移動したんでしょうかね？ハオコの興奮が収まらないなら一時閉鎖したほうがいいかもしれませんね。
ハオコが不安がってるを見て喜んでるわけではないと思いますよ。パフォーマンス、サービスとしてやってくれてるのかな？と思ってた人もいると思います。実際に動物の中では喜んでくれている声を理解している動物もいます。それにその日だけ見に来た人はゴリラに何が起こってるか理解してないでしょう。そこの部分だけを切り取って盛り上ってる人間は最低だみたいに言うのは・・・
どうやら6/13の午後に第1放飼場に戻ったらしいハオコファミリー。6:18のハオコさんは対面の展示ガラスに写るモニター（室内モニター）を見ていたのですね😊頭いいです
長かったですね、やっと戻りましたか。それにしても上野の予約競争は凄いですね。まずスタートしてから数分間ネットにつながらないし、15分後にはほぼ完売。😫
@@GreatApesZoo
今日はトトさん外に出ていました。常連さんの話によると、数日前トトさんだけが室内から出てこず扉が閉まってしまい、ハオコさんが閉まったドアに向かってドラミングをしばらくの間すごいしていたようです。今日、コモモちゃんはトトさんに何度もちょっかい出していました。年頃乙女だからしょうがないですね。
なんだかんだとハオコはトト思いのところがありますね。コモモにとって既にトトはライバル熟女なんでしょうね。みんな元気なようでほっとします。ありがとうございます。
That fight must have been pretty bad for them to ignore him like that. He knows he’s in trouble. Hopefully they will forgive him. Just goes to show how close they are to us. They can hold a serious grudge
Move the SKULLS !!!
Awww its sad. Beautiful animals:) they are so smart.
What a beautiful silverback! 🦍 I know this is a year ago, but did they ever find out what was the problem??
I did not understand the problem, but they are now living in peace.
@@GreatApesZoo thank you!
Get rid of the skull! It means danger to them. He is patrolling the area and keeps on checking if it is still there.
This is the only comment that had made the most sense here. It is so freaking obvious what is going on here. He does not like the skulls he keeps staring at and i bet thats the whole reason the rest of the group is not out
OMG, GET RID OF THE SKULLS 💀, PERIOD !!!!
Shabani is so sweet and gentle with his children, he is the hardest on Nene, Ai seems to put him in hi place, so if Shabani is sweet why is his brother so mean?
I hope that the zoo is not doing experiments with the gorillas to see their reactions to the skulls. That would be way too cruel. This was a good family.
He probably is worried that no one is there ...
I am new to this gorilla family so I’m not sure what’s going on. Can someone please share how old Riki is. Thank you
He was born in October and is 3 years old.
He's looking at them skulls probably wondering when he's next ..HOW CRUEL
How did they get gorilla skulls and where do they come from?
So I understand why haven't seen their news in the past few months. Only Haoko go to meeting with fans, he is a little nervous and has been knocking on the glass. Haoko, you have to find a way to show the gentle with the ladies. 🙏🏻 Hope everyone can go outdoors and meet their fans as soon。
Two things are happening here. 1. There are two skulls on display in the gorilla exhibit 6:37. Gorillas are extremely smart and perceptive having 98.6% of the same DNA as humans. Only 1.4% separates them from us. While the display was for educational purposes, it maybe wasn't a good idea to be in plain view for a silverback to see. Therefore, I'd submit that was Haoko's MAIN reason for displaying. He is already upset the family is 😠 towards him (I'll address that in a minute). Then he comes outside and sees the skulls and is like, 4:30, 6:30 😳 "what the heck! This definitely doesn't sit well with me. Skulls = death. Skulls hung on display, well I definitely perceive this as a threat, and one I need to be concerned about." Bless his heart. He probably thought poachers were nearby. He's a silverback. I mean his reaction 8:05 was definitely appropriate.
2. Haoko seemed to have gotten on the lovely 🌸 lady wives' nerves, and the entire troops nerves again. Here is a perfect example of how he manages to do this:
th-cam.com/video/N1qzcv5ySn4/w-d-xo.html
So a temporary anti Haoko wife/troop strike campaign was going on with the entire troop staying indoors 16:00 🤭. Well Haoko can be a bit forward and pushy annoying the heck out of the lovely wives sometimes, but hey he means well, and that's just Haoko's personality. This was about a year ago. They've since made up and are getting along well 👍.
I agree completely with your assessment. It's heart wrenching seeing this, and the anxiety shows how upsetingt this is for him.
Poor thing, he's looking really restless. I wonder what his issue? 🤔
mary gaczewski i did read the video. Nobody really knows what's the issue, people are just speculating of what might have happened.🙄
Is there video?
CLEARLY HE WANTS ATTENTION FROM SOMEONE BECAUSE SOMETHING IS WRONG….
I think he is seeing the reflection of the video monitor with his family in the glass case across from him...
Good.
Omg! How long has the showcase of skeleton's been there???? I think he knows what they are, or he is whating on a gorilla???
Something bad must have happened where the females do not want to be with him anymore. I know he can be a pain and he does bite rough at times, but for them to not want to even go outside anymore, it must have been pretty bad. I hope it all works out. The little one is probably confused, but at the end of the day he is going to be with mom :)
Female gorillas' rights!! 🦍 I feel bad for him but Haoko...you blew it.
They have a beautiful enclosure do they have anything the can go swinging on up high
僕も12月9日の日に上野動物園に行きました。 ハオコの群れを見に行きました。 ハオコ たちがいなかったです。 いない時は、モニターを見たが ゴリラの姿を見えませんでした。 やっぱり喧嘩をしたですよね。
そのあと見に行った方が、第二放飼場で普通に暮らしていたと言ってましたが、予約が取れないので・・・
@@GreatApesZoo さん 報告ありがとうござました😊
😍🙏
I wonder if they are scared to come out
So sad how small the habitat is😒😒
夫婦喧嘩では理由はともあれ、こどもたちはお母さんに味方するもんなんですよね。しかも、トトさんまでもモモコさん側につくとは…。みんなの怒りがまさか自分にあるとは、みじんも感じていないようなハオコさん、いったいどんなことしたん? 真剣な顔つきでギャラリーに泣きついているのに、お客さんは笑顔で手を振って返す。もーどうしたらいいのかわからないハオコさんの目がひたすら泳いでますね。あやまるしかないね、まずはあやまろう、な！
これ収まりつくんですか？2カ月ですよ。今でも信じられない。😲
「これからは、ソーシャルディスタンス、ゴリラはテレビで見よう！」・・・そんなのいやだ！
@@GreatApesZoo ガラスが曇るほど、ギャラリーに近づくハオコさんを初めてみました! パフォーマンスなんかしちゃって、、、。ホント、どーなるんでしょうかね。心配です。
みんな、優しくハオコさんのことを考えてくださる。ハオコさんが問題じゃないとしたら2ヶ月前に家族を恐怖におとしいれて、ここは危ないと思わせる何か出来事があったのかな? ギャラリーをしきりに気にするのも不思議ですよね。確かに骸骨が面と向かってるのは怖いよね、コロナでお客さんが少なくなって目に入るのかな? そういえば人間に反応しすぎ? ハオコさんのストレスが心配ですね。もしかしたら、ハオコさんが家族を守るために部屋から出るなと言ってるとか…。とにかく、骸骨はやめてみては?
@@user-hw1wd8wx7e kyo
様の情報をもとに推測してみました。返信コメントに書き込みました。勿論一つの推測にすぎませんが・・・
上野に行ければ行くんですが、予約がとれません。
@@GreatApesZoo 予約とは厳しいですね、これだけの勢いでコロナが広がっていますから、仕方ないのかもしれませんが、辛いものがありますね。動物園側は何か考えているのかな? たぶん、ゴリラファンは知りたいところです。
7:38You are never supposed to look a gorilla in the eyes if your outside of their group! That means war.. look it up! There should be a sign stating that, unless if there is and just not reading that.. Smh
And then, that is so disrespectful for them to put skulls for them to see outside of the enclosure looking right at them.
How would they like if they were locked in an enclosure and had human skulls right outside of their window. I love that hacko family but whoever’s idea that was it’s just plain rude and disrespectful and has no consideration for these magnificent primates!! 🥺😔
His really freaked out
Can he see the reflection off the TV of his family in the glass opposite ?
It's possible he can watch TV, but I don't know exactly.
I don't really know what happened here. Some say he had a fight with the females while others say they were moved so the area could b repaired. These animals are not chess pieces to b moved around with out preparing them. Haoko is so unhappy and confused. It's like he is trying to figure it all out.
He is scared for his family, he put them inside. Because of the gorillas skulls! They're not stupid, they know danger when they see it. When the threats are gone the family will come out.
I agree. The zoo should have known that this would upset the gorillas. I hope they remove them asap
I posted with Japanese writing now.
About what you says.
Bc I’m kind wander editor are understand well about yr English.
So if he see it with my writing
I hope he let zoo keeper know what is problem now in his troop.
Anyway now I respect haoko even he is not as handsome as Shabani.
He is protecting his troop.
Strong and brave guy🦾🦍❤️
Hi I reply again Bc I gat a new information by editor.
He says that “sculp has been there .”
Its not new display .”
Therefor
he was wandering.
Then he gat new post from person name KiYo
You see on below.
KiYo San comments that “its May be video moniter which Haoko are able to see from inside glass wall.
He see Gorrila family on tv moniter
Then he wander “who are they ?”
But by now he may calm down .
He might understand that is his family
Now its a good news 😊
Bc they moved to 2nd compound
Haoko are relaxing as usual.
Its a good news
So I let you know 👍
@@midoriburgess5941 That is good news, thanks for that info.
@@midoriburgess5941 thank you so much for the info, I thought of the video monitor but thought he would figure out it's his family. Maybe he didn't know how they got them in that box so small, giving them TV to see would probably solve this problem. There is a silverback that likes for customers to show him their phones with videos of him and other gorillas, so it is obvious they are smart enough to see what it is after a while.
Poor sod is lonely...
Do gorillas remember what they do I mean does he remember why this is happening. Does he remember what he did.
He looked excited to see someone at the window and smiled
サンタさん『俺のいる動物園に来ないか？』
ナンチャッテ、、、
😀
どっちも意地の張り過ぎやんな。野生と違って、群れを出ていけないのはかわいそうだけど、2ヶ月は長過ぎやん。園側はどう考えてるんだろ…
What’s going to happen???
If is the skull why have us see him in distress we feel for them and what things better for them because they are caged i think we all agree remove the skull please if that is the problem only you keepers know
Will someone please explain the skills they are talking about???????
What happened did you ever find out what he was looking at kind of snuck up on you huh
Looks like he's taking humans as a threat which could make it unsafe for Zoo Keepers
if they are used to seeing people on the other side of the glass if there are no people they know something is wrong
こんばんは〜😀
上野は、通勤途中なので行きたいと思っています👍
年末年始に行きたく…🦍
ハオコ様の応援に駆けつけます🚩♥️🚩（遅かったかな?）
色々情報有難うございます。
こんにちは。こちらこそありがとうございます。
予約必要なので行きたくてもいけない。15：00なら開いているけど終わってるよ😢
ぜひ応援してきてください。なんだかんだ言ってもハオコの精神状態が不安です。
ゴリラたちは、精神的ショックにとても弱いですから。
わたしも予約取れれば行きます。
訂正：こんにちは。でした🙏
はい🖐ハオコ様に嫌われない様に行って来ますね💘💪
行ってらっしゃい😀
There is something odd why is he coming back to that spot and gazing at the gorilla skull like he is disturbed of seeing it did a gorilla died in the past and the skull was placed there?
なんか、ひとり広場にいるのがリストラされて家族に言えなず、公園のベンチに座るお父さんに見えます。
ゴリラのお父さんも大変。
@@GreatApesZoo モモコ俺が悪かったと言えず、状況は悪化…立場の弱いトトさんには当たらないでほしいですね…
ほんとです。ハオコさんお願いします。
@@GreatApesZoo 上野のトラブルといえば、ゲンキさんとビジュさんを思い出して不安になります😭
how did that happend?
O que está chamando a atenção do Haoko ?
I don't know about that.
The following is my guess.
The image on the monitor does not appear on the tempered glass, but it may be on the glass of the skeletonized display.
Perhaps Haoko can't understand whether the images on the glass are Momoko.
However, I think Haoko, if she can see the gorilla in the video, recognizes it as a dangerous gorilla that attacks her family.
Haoko's display makes sense to protect the family and drive away the gorillas in the video.
If so, I think Haoko's stress is strong.
Does anyone know wat had him doin that? Wat was he seeing ? Hope the family is over it & doin good now! 🦍🦍
he mustve done something really aweful bc She was his Queen and they his offspring. Now they wont even look at him!
I hate to ask people but what is the story. What is wih thecskulls? What preceded the fight? Why is he alone. Why not move him to another zoo?
They have moved to the next facility.
What is with the skulls?
@@GreatApesZoo is it a bigger enclosure?
What happened to the family ? Did the females reject their silverback ??
Little by little, they are returning to their original relationship.
Has something happened
Supposedly haoko got into a fight with the females and his family wants nothing to do with him
Is he lonely?
No
ホントだー💦>どうするんだよ？ハオコ！
2か月後（12月）ようやく落ち着きました。良かった😀
th-cam.com/video/KG_yAZlK-4M/w-d-xo.html
良かった‼️そちらも見てみますね😊
The Haoko family is on strike!
室内モニターがガラスに反射してそれを見てすごく興奮しているという投稿を見た事があるんですが、、、ハオ君のストレスが心配ですね😥
なるほど、強化ガラスには映らないでしょうが、骸骨のあるディスプレイのガラスなら見えるかもしれませんね。
もしそうなら可能性は高いと思います。モモコたちかどうかを区別できるほど見えるかどうかわかりませんが、ゴリラがいることが分かれば、
家族を襲う危険なゴリラと認識するのは当然でしょう。ディスプレイは、家族を守るため、映像のゴリラを追い払うためと考えれば理にかなっています。そうなればハオコのストレスは強いですね。
The image on the monitor does not appear on the tempered glass, but it may be on the glass of the skeletonized display.
Perhaps Haoko can't understand whether the images on the glass are Momoko.
However, I think Haoko, if she can see the gorilla in the video, recognizes it as a dangerous gorilla that attacks her family.
Haoko's display makes sense to protect the family and drive away the gorillas in the video.
If so, I think Haoko's stress is strong.
What happened? Is it on video?
I don't know anything other than comments.
What does that mean. Collapse?
A close family has been in conflict for more than two months.
@@GreatApesZoo in conflict over what?
So sad that these intelligent creatures are in zoos all over the world 😩
Sadder that the wild populations are endangered. Their habitats being destroyed, people EATING them as ''bush meat'' and disgusting people killing adults for trinkets for disgusting people to display in their homes and taking the young gorillas for pets. One day the only gorillas left will be in zoos,so is it better to just let the species die out?
Please educate yourself on why they came to be in a zoo before you make comments like this one. It is okay to not understand because you feel compassion for the species and that is a good thing. Humans are the reason their species is declining. Their habitats are destroyed for palm oils and they are killed off for bush meat. They are rescued and zoos manage the species to increase their numbers. Unfortunately there are not enough sanctuaries to catch and release. And those born in zoos would not survive in the wild unless released in a protected sanctuary. They are endangered. We need to do what we can to save them. I would prefer to see them in their natural habitat but humans are preventing that. It’s a catch 22. 😊
Forgive Haoko!!!!
What’s happening
Just like humans do if someone is a jerk we try and stay away from them. Haoko needs to stop being a jerk to his family.
The public can't come in because of covid but of course the gorillas wouldn't understand
12時45分の予約枠をとりましたが、ごりらさん達はいますか？（ハオコさん心配です）昼食とかの時間で、いない時間ってありますか？
通常は、11：30～13：15くらいまで室内の様子をモニターで見るだけです。そのあと飼育員が放飼場に食べ物を配置してハオコ達が出てきます。
15：00くらいには、帰ると思ったほうがいいです。
ただ、9日にゴリラたちが第一から第二放飼場に引っ越したそうなので、今の状況はまったく分かりません。
（ゴリラたちは、先日元気になったとは聞きましたが・・・）私も来週予約が取れました。
@@GreatApesZoo 見ないとなんか心配ですねぇ。私は最近ゴリラファンになりました。（TH-camを通してだけですが）ハオコさん、表現が不器用なのかなぁ？でも男子って本来は人間も不器用に思います。上野は女子軍、強そうですもんね。リキくんもママのおっぱいまだほしいみたいだし、ママにそっぽむかれてはこまるのかなぁ～って思います。ありがとうございます。
@@rie777 こちらこそありがとうございます。ハオコ達が元気に暮らしているか見てきてください。
モモタロウの父親？
モモタロウの父は死亡しています。ハオコのパートナーのモモコは、モモタロウの母です。
Something is clearly inking this majestic gorilla...his fam is full of huge healthy gorillas,even the females are unreal size ...not sure what skulls the comments are referring to n maybe also alittle more privacy i love seeing these guys but can u imagine if ppl were constantly watching us..not sure how id feel,in any respect tho this fam is beautiful
If you watch the video closely you will see the camera pans to the display with two gorilla skulls directly across from where Haoko keeps looking.
@@2btpatch ty imma rewatch ...haoko is an amazing gorilla ... 🕊️✌🏼
He must be wondering if that is one of his family skull he sees and when the audience are in the way he gets angry because he can’t see. ZOO owners should remove them skulls to other places not where Gorillas can see it or any animals
하오코는어찌됬든아빠고릴라입니다.가족을이끄는 가족이랑싸웠다고해서분리시키는거는옳지않다고생각합니다.제가보기엔하오코는지금몹시가족들이랑떨어져있어서불안해하는것처럼보입니다.자신이지켜야할가족들이랑떨어져있으니까요.
I don't understand the story.. looks pathetic.. poor soul..
類人猿研究所さん
英語圏でのコメントの多くは「ハオコがが頭蓋骨💀を怖がり、異常に反応しているからだ」とコメントしてますよ。飼育員さんに即刻、取り外すように伝えてほしいと述べてます。
彼にしたら頭蓋骨＝死＝不吉
恐怖で自分の家族を守ろうとして外に出させないのではとコメントしてます。繊細なゴリラゆえですね。
訪問者に普段近づく事ないのに、しきりに自分の不安を訴えているように見えます。ちなみに彼の冒君ゆえだったら今迄もよくあったことで家族は慣れっこなのでは？
骸骨はずっとありますし、こんなハオコは見たことないのでどうでしょう。私自身は骸骨をズームしたのは、ただカメラに映ったからで意味はないです。喧嘩なんてすぐに収まるのに、なんででしょうか？2か月前は寒くはなかったですから寒さのせいとも思えません。
類人猿研究所Great Apes Zoo
あら、そうなんですね
やっぱり、口騒がしい西洋圏のコメントでしたか。
彼らは、温和な日本人ファンと違い、厳しいというか時々勘違いで変なコメントする女性が割といるので
あまり相手にしていなかったけど今回もそうなのかな？
最初のコメ主のgrandma pさんは良心的な常連さんと思うので、つい同意してしまいました。
kyo様から情報をいただいたので、推測ですがコメントを書き込みました。
Get rid of the skull!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!! I'm outraged at this!
It seems it may be the monitor and its reflection that disturbs him--maybe possibly both. In a later comment, it has been said that they moved them to the second closure and peace appears restored. I surely hope so.
Outraged, really? You must live a blessed, problem free existence.. I wish I had the lack of real problems, issues, concerns in my life to allow myself to get outraged by something that has nothing to do with me, my family, or even my species. The Skulls make you outraged, Your outrage makes me feel envious.. 😥