$10 is just ridiculous, I don't see a single weapon being worth $10. If you combine the price of all of the weapon DLCs, you get enough money to buy a new game instead.
@Skaynne I see where you are coming from but I beg to differ. I mean, the price tag is debatable, but you can't deny that the weapons look good, and the animations are fantastic. They put effort into making them, and it shows. I don't think it is worth ten bucks, no, but I do not think it is a cheap cash grab. I just think it is slightly overpriced. I think that at four or five bucks for these two weapons together it would be fine. That is my opinion though, and you are free to disagree. I respect your opinion.
i mean even if you consider the work they put into the gun, it's just overpriced for 10 euros (or whatever currency you use idc), like if you'd buy any real world item it's obviously probably because it's one piece and every single piece requires a bunch of work, but with this it's literally making the model, the animations, the sounds and the textures n such. sure it's pretty tedious and tiring work but when you think that after these bunch of files are just made that they then just distribute this to everyones game and lock it behind a paywall for 10 euros (or whatever), if one person buys it they're 10 euros richer, so if 10 people buy it they already have 100, etc. it's just not really worth it in general compared to how much work goes into these things in my honest opinion. besides you can buy an entire indie game for this money aswell, why use the same amount just to buy an alternative playstyle in a game you already paid money for?
I think the Riot Shield would be better if it was a separate weapon that you could pair with any of the Swat weapons and provide a bit more extra defense
I think it would be better if it had a better protection dynamic. The shield seems to just reduce damage, but it would be cool if it could completely neutralise things like projectiles, bloat bile and fire. The fact that you have to scope to protect also is kind of annoying too. It would have been better if the weapon had a parry instead of a fire select.
Yea, they always gotta make stuff look like shit in zombie/zombie like games. Can't just get a mint condition Riot shield, it's gotta be all samey with a busted ass window.
@Devenn Eng is it really 3d scanned? Or they just make it from scratch? Even they use 3d scan, the artist will change how the shield looks to make it similiar with the concept
Overkill Software: We're going bankrupt, here's a 10 bucks dlc collection contaning a new heist, new weapon mods and a few outfits so we can survive another year. Tripwire: lol buy diz we gotta upgrade our offices
the riot shield and glock really feels like they combined weapon ideas they had instead of creating new stuff, riot shield + police baton would be a perfect reskin for the bonecrusher.. and glock feels more gunslingery, even though it would be overpowered if duel wielded.
I really wish these dlc weapons were just under some kinda mission/ assignment that anyone can do to unlock them, I get that they need some cash cow and weapons is perfect but it discourages me from continuing to play the game
Short answer, "no". Long answer, I'd _maybe_ pay ten bucks for all four DLC weapons without skins, and even then that's because I like Tripwire enough to want to support them.
I was talking about AW but I guess that works too COD basically reuses every weapon per game but with a different skin and name to trick kids into thinking " it's totally not the same game from last year!"
Single gun for $6 or $10 for both would be fair. The problem with selling them for 2 or 3 dollars is after Steam, takes their 30% cut and credit card processing fees, TWI would only get a dollar or so per purchase
@@alyssasowell774 Im not happy about it either but it is what it is. I think theyre going about it all wrong and would actually make more money in the long run if they charged less and did weapon bundles
@Channel07 I think a $15 pack with 3 in each pack would be nice so 5 dollars for each map I would love a summer sideshow pack where we get a remastered abusement park, hellride, and steamland
i'd love to see that big map farm from kf1 come in. i remember that was always like the freakiest map to me, all dark and alone on a huge farm map. easy to get separated ect
I think it might from RS2/RO2, but the sound is definitely different from the former. Also the reload animation is a bit worse in comparison to either.
@@ThereIsNoWifi they can't do that without breaking the game. Dual glocks would be stupidly busted on gunslinger because of rack em up making it excellent against big zeds while naturally being strong against weaker zeds. On SWAT that'd be the fastest big zed killing weapon the perk has by far while also being insane against trash and having the best ammo gain per box in the game. Dual glocks WOULD be cool, but they would completely break the game because they'd be the strongest weapon in the whole thing.
hanah ramsy I mean I have some hypothesis First you hold the shield on your left not even in a defensive matter Second you dont even hold it that much defensively even while “blocking” Third cant block 4th they look smaller than in the preview 5th just the angle in general is bad 6th there isn’t satisfying sound for both the shield and glock... same for animations And finally. Gameplay wise. You dont see any change really
half the vid is him as Survivalist not as SWAT. SWAT is ridiculous with this and combined with the armor skills, it is a fairly significant amount of damage that it blocks, but not nearly as good as the Bonecrusher is in terms block blocking damage. The Glock looks like it's better damage than the P90 but worse than the Kriss, which means I'm going to take the Kriss, upgrade it, and have the Glock and Shield as a secondary unupgraded. I really wish I could sell the M9 and be able to take both upgraded instead, I would never complain again.
@@ThereIsNoWifi KRISS firerate on a MP7. That pretty much sums up the G18. If you could dual wield it it would be a god tier weapon(for gunslinger), but nope, they had to give it a non working shield that cant even block the dammage properly
What? No it's not ridiculous xD You need to aim to block which slows you down... making this weapon really awkward, if a fleshpound rages at you, he'll hit you more times because you'll just be there infront of him aiming, you're far better with just pulling out a knife which takes no effort to and parry him, then change to a vector and gg. Idk I personally (as it is right now) don't see any potential.
I'm honestly surprised we haven't gotten a normal bolt action rifle for the sharpshooter yet. Like come on. It's a class dedicated slow firing semi auto rifles/ bolt rifles. But the only botl action rifle we have is the M99 and don't count that cus that's a fuckin anti material rifle. It can 1 shit any non-boss Zeds. I'm surprised they went with a Mosin instead of something like a Kar98k. Speaking of which, I want more ww1/2 weapons. Like a M1 Garand or carbine, MP40, ppsh41, mg42, bren gun, Lewis gun, bar, etc etc. And as for the g18, i wish they made it where I can just use the gun without the shield, so you can use it on the gunslinger, and maybe use the shield on the berserker. But I guess not
Kar98k in my opinion isn't as sexy or iconic as Mosin, me being russian it just works that way, coz Mosin rifle can be said as one of the weapons that won a war. Although Kar98k look's sweet with scope and it's stock is just beautiful.
I hear you, but for this particular game it might be too slow. Those zeds will sprint at you full speed in full groups and I can’t imagine taking them out efficiently with a bolt action
Shield + G18 functions the opposite of how I thought it would. Thought that alt-fire would be blocking with the shield with the ability to hip-fire around it, and that aiming would just be normal. The bash could also have higher push or hit multiple zeds. Feels really lame compared to the other DLC weapons
I'm always down for new weapons, but tripwire stopped getting my money when I found out they put loot boxes in the game. Thankfully, I just got a new computer that can run kf2 well, so I finally get to dive into the mods :D (up until now I've only been able to play it on Xbox One)
"Don't see much future for kf2 anymore". It is indeed sad but true. And since you asked, no it isn't worth $10. I don't mind if they don't add new content. But ffs just don't contaminate a good game with greed.
I feel like I'm the only person who's somewhat okay with the paid weapons. It's not great, but yet they're still putting in a crapton of effort into the game to add all sorts of effects, animations, and other stuff. Hell, there's 4-6 reload animations for every single gun, and animating isn't cheap by any means.
@@norrecvizharan1177 Regardless of the amount of effort put into each gun (and I definitely agree with you on that point), the price tag is very steep. If you buy the Mosin, along with, say, 3 other weapons, you're already out $40. At a certain point, it goes from being a question of "Is it worth it?" to "Can I even afford this?" As an aside, I've had the chance to use the Mosin in my last game (Someone was sharing content) and I absolutely loved it! Definitely disappointed that I can't use it more often
definitely buying mosin nagant, I waited for this weapon so long :D it look awesome, has iron sight and from what i saw, it looks pretty satisfying, i am big fan of these weapons :D in red orchestra or rising storm i was always playing with these type of weapons
I totally agree with you, if this monetization continues it will be the end of KF2. I'd love to try those two weapons, but I get a complete game on steam for those bucks, not just 2 single weapons to play from time to time, because I just play those classes from time to time, not focus only them because of that weapons!!!
It would be great if you could shield bash sprint with the riot shield, knocking down enemies in your path but has a stamina meter before you can do it again.
Yeah killing floor 2 is basically dead at this point, the player counts may be basically the same as they have always been but the core player base has pretty much disappeared.
The player counts are deffinitely not the same, when year (or is it two already?) back there would be always plenty servers under 100 ping to choose from day and night, now there are like 5 even on friday/saturday evening. And good luck with getting the players for hell on earth diff or objective mode.
@@miroslavvales2069 I was mostly referring to the steam displayed player counts rather than the servers. The steam reported player counts seem about the same as far as I can tell. The lack of servers or HOE players is because the core playerbase is gone.
They did the tactical reload with the stripper clip right, though you do just slap rounds remaining in the clip off into your teammate's eye. Regarding the price of the weapons, I think you have to consider that Killing Floor 2 isn't an expensive game to buy, the content that was already included 4 months ago was well worth £19.99. The new weapons definitely aren't meta, not pay-to-win. They're ways to throw a little cash support at TW if you feel they deserve it, and get a bit of extra content out of it, too.
I remeber when it launched on ps4. Only like 8maps??(it's been so long ago.) and basic weapons and if u consider all the FREE updates maps and wepons, since it launched 10 bux ain't bad. I just wish you didntb have to be online to use the dlc wepons...
I think the Riot Shield should have like a "Health bar", so you can actually tank some heavy punches, and after the bar goes down, the shield will break, then you are left only with your glock
The 10$ outrage was pretty big but after hearing it helps the game out with funding I don’t mind dishing the dollars out for the guns. Would prefer 5$ for a weapon as some skins aren’t that great in the pack. But it is a nice addition.
4:14 ... hahaha no... kf2 is going to go down spiral ... ive been telling this for ages .. same thing happened in KF1 .. half the community just quit and left the game, .. when kf2 came out i had high hopes for it ... o well, companies just go back to their own ways, and i am done ranting about it ...
@@PathfinderBoi well remember the good old days when kf1 sold 4 characters for $2.50, and mysteriously tripwire had to make money and single characters became $7.99 ... Peppridge Farm remembers xD
Definitely feels like people are focusing too much on negatives rather than positives, because at least they're still adding a lot of other content and free maps. Animating, modeling, and sound design doesn't come cheap, especially not when there's several reload animations per gun. So really, I don't think it's that big of an issue, cause it's still a high quality game, with the only difference is that there's just a couple guns you'd have to buy. It's like, so what? There's still free guns being added in, why throw a fit over it?
The thing with the riot shield, it should have been paired with the regular old 9mn, have the decreased damage while aiming, and a full on block on the alt fire, i knew as soon as the glock was announced that the alt fire would be semi auto. It could have been an opportunity to make the increased damage on the 9mm the swat has shine along with an ammo reserves buff
7.62x54R my favorite cartridge and I'm glad to see the mosin nagant series getting some recognition I'm tired of seeing kar98ks but even in video games mosin nagants are being over priced from 2000s 80$ now 2019 350$ at gun shows to gun shops and now video games 10$ for one old bolt action firearm.
Pathfinder, my slavic bro. I've got some info about Riot Shield. Actually it CAN block incoming damage. According to spreadsheet, it has Block multiplier, effective Block angle and listed types of damage you can block. One thing is that I actually don't know how do you block with shield then. UPD: Damage Blocking starts when you use Iron sights. Also, Shield Bash Impact has AoE damage that controls and pushes Zeds back and activates when you land a bash on a target. It says: "When Shield connects with the target it creates an Impulse area of effect ("explosion") around this target. The area covers 100 degrees angle in front of the player. The initial target takes both - Bash damage and Impulse damage, all nearby targets only take Impulse damage."
I really love the Mosin! Tried it out today and it rocks! against the small and Medium enemys you can save a lot of ammo! You can greatly stab em! Its a real nice weapon for the sniper! Played the first time the Survivalist and its a good weapon for him too! Leveled up 13 Levels with this gun!
It is an epic weapon for killing small stuff with just a stab. But you getting bombarded by spiders and shot at from edars... it's still not the greatest thing ever, definitely strong though :D
How to fix the monetization problem: -Make actual good weapons, that serve multipurpose functionality -Add a Season Pass mechanic that allows players 2 Week - 1 Month Early Access to new (actually good) weapons -Release the weapons for free at a determined date, probably under a challenge for the season (Similar to the Christmas Update) -??? -Profit (Without your community shitting on you)
@@PathfinderBoi True, if they consistently updated the game on intervals that weren't seasonal, people would still be hooked. Sadly, it's their own fault for not having an active enough playerbase, leading to the lack of money, leading to their "need" to monetize weapons. I quoted "need" since we don't know if they actually NEED to monetize the weapons; all if this info is word of mouth from the company, no actual stats or data.
Don’t even have to know how good they are to know the answer is no,$10 for a singular gun in any game is INSANELY Overpriced. Especially the mosin since it’s a bolt gun, it’ll never be as good as any sharpshooter weapon that it would realistically be similar too.
I have to admit the new rifle looks pretty damn cool. The riot shield and gun look cool but it needs to block a lot more damage. I hope it gets upgraded. I'd like to see the g18 in an HRG version for the gunslinger or the sharpshooter. Thank you for the video and the info!
It does block, just the way it does is poorly designed. Like you need to aim to slow yourself down (if you don't have tactical movement) which means you'll get hit more consistently xD
Killing floor 1 community weapons pack goes for 7.99$ on steam it includes 4 weapons under that price. Kf2 pay 20.00$ for 2 weapons. Do they not see the disparity here? Here’s some advice kf team. Bring new weapons down to 5.00$ a pop then watch as all those people interested in the guns but not willing to pay an excess buy the guns. Sell the extra colors/skins separate or as a pack for 3 dollars extra. Then set it up to where the weapons aren’t up for steam discount. I.e keep them flat rated. Unless you specifically want them on sale. Id buy them at that point and im certain the fanbase would too.
The Mosin Nagant is definitely the best DLC weapon they've put in the game so far. No silly gimmicks to it and it's just a fun as hell bolt action. $10 is incredibly overpriced though. I can't afford to buy all of the DLC weapons, but if I were to buy just one it would be that one.
Gotta love the Mosin Nagant. If a finnish legend like Simo Häyhä aka The White Death used this, you've to buy it. Dude had like 500 soviet kills back in 30's during the winter war making him the deadliest sniper of all time. I wish I could buy the gun already :(
I hope killing floor keeps up the updates and dlc for a long time. I'm not too big on the 10 dallar aspect but it is cool to see this game is still very much alive cuz it is one of my all time favorites
I love thos 2 Dlc weapons they are soo cool! Mosin= Bayonet and parry! Shield= finaly a item which can block dmg for swat and in comparison to other weapons, you can block and attack at the same time! Now that is some new content i like. None of them seem strong in dmg, but fun in playstyle. Definitely gonna buy both of them. But 10 Bucks per Weapon sure is alot for "new playstyle". 5 Bucks seems more reasonable.But since we also get free weapons you can say, you buy 10 bucks for a dlc weapon and support development of a free weapon.
Better weapon ideas: make the G18 dual wieldable and make them swat and gunslinger weapons. The riot shield would be a swat and berserker weapon that could be paired with smgs, pistols, and melee weapons. It blocks projectiles and resists explosive damage when hit directly by 80%. Sprinting with it holds the shield up and pushes smaller zeds aside and deals damage to them but stops hitting bloats, scrakes, flesh pounds, and bosses (still prone to getting grabbed). You would need to sprint for a certain amount of time before the charge can work. Aiming blocks attacks like a melee weapon would. Drawbacks are slowed speed, extra weight, and increased recoil.
The shield should work like in Rainbow Six Siege, defense mode while hip firing and exposed when aiming, it would simply be a weapon that makes you more tanky; another idea, it could be a melee weapon(no glock) that would provide better defense than the knife and also be used to knock down zeds with a bash/ram attack that can be used only while sprinting. The Mosin feels underpowered to say the least(fully upgraded and can't even 1 shot EDARs, wtf), the shooting speed seems to be about the same of the crossbow but the damage is much lower, plus you have to reload every 5 shots, imo it should be at least a bit more powerful than the centerfire..
I do admit the rifle looks really good because of that parry, but the swat weapon should have parry, and it should be broken up into different weapons, G18 can stay swat but the shield can be for berserker, and the pair can be purchased for SWAT at a discount compared to buying both.
It be cool if they could put these on sale with the game at times and I get why they may need more money but there isnt a guarantee itll keep free content coming
The Nagant actually looks pretty spicy. Decent damage, looks like it handles well, and the melee capabilities seem like they'd make the weapon have a fun kind of "frontline infantry" playstyle. Going to have to say the Riot Shield + G18 _definitely_ needs better defensive power when blocking. The fact that it, a presumably almost full body shield, cannot block bullets whereas the Bonecrusher - a buckler with some holes in it CAN - already leaves a bad taste. But it seems like the tank power even against regular ads is lacking. The best damage reduction is not getting hit at all, and I'd rather just strafe backwards than purposely take armor or health damage. It's gonna need some beefy reduction if they want me to use that close range as opposed to just playing Berserker instead. Also, the broken glass. Never looks good; either have it be a full pane or just not there.
broken glass looks very cartoonish and sloppy too. i think they are aiming for epic and veteran-esque/post apocalyptic look for the shield but looks lazy instead. maybe changing it with full panel yet bit of crack here and there instead with blood smudge or something? or just no panel at all.
first video game I've ever seen where a mosin nagant reload includes a small animation of the guy manually removing the stripper clip before closing the bolt, I've never seen a game get that right before, the bolt didn't push out the stripper clip like it did with most rifles of the period
That shield looks underwhelming for trash mobs, but when you were fighting that fp it really was doing a pretty good job negating damage. For example that fp's kick usually does around 70 damage and you only took 21 and its light attacks were doing 7-10 damage instead of 20-30 so I guess that shield is a lot more useful for big zeds.
The Mosin-Nagant fits well with Strasser wearing the Stahlhelm! Still the weapon dlc cost MUST be reduced to 5€! TWI also should remove the ugly low-effort skins from the bundles to reduce their cost! EDIT: Is there a chance that these weapons will go on Sale? On PS4, Xbone and PC?
Would still prefer the Mauser Kar Karabiner 98k to go with Strasser, but I've been wanting a proper bolt action combat rifle for so long I think I'll take this even with the price tag. Kinda wish they had an alternative version without the skins bundled on.
I wonder if they recycled animations for the Mosin from Red Orchestra. That is one thing I like about Killing Floor - you have a developer whose other big product is an obsessively realistic combat simulation, and they bring the attention to detail in weapons - the skins, the mechanics, the animations, everything - over to their arcadey zombie shooter.
Riot shield seems to block 50% of damage - when you get hit by a fleshpound in the video, without the shield you take 20 damage and with the shield you take 10 damage. Also, one bullet, or tick of damage from the patriarch's chain gun does 5-7 damage without shield, and 2 damage with shield.
@@PathfinderBoi I think it's that way on purpose because they had to add a downside. The g18 is basically the P90, so having a p90 with 50% damage reduction whenever you need it might have been too much.
You can literally pull out a knife which takes no effort and parry damage xD So this riot shield is pretty... mediocre. I know they said no pay to win, but pay to underwhelm is also pretty bad.
i've never seen this game before, but it looks fun, I may have picked it up to play with that mosin, if it wasn't a tenner. were it 2-3, maybe even 5? i'd probably get it, but this pricing is just greedy.
The game by itself is super fun and can be addicting, if you're a new player you can play for a long time, but if you followed the game from start... You'd see it's going downhill.
I would pay ten dollars for all of the current dlc weapons together. And even then, only because I want Tripwire to keep going and do well because I love this game
I knew they wouldn't use my Riot Shield idea lol. Lot cheaper to lazily develope the shield, rather than put some thought into it like I mentioned, with expensive refill-purchasable, 300 or so armor on the shield that negates 75-100% of damage, and 25-50% when at 0 armor. Balancing and such would come later to prevent it from being too OP. Trash killer and Lane denial/blocking perk, instead of just a trash killer. A tanky shield would have created a new playstyle for the perk, and added more camping viability.
It's cool that you can block with the Mosin Nagant, but I wish they would do this for other weapons too. Knife only blocking for non-Berserker perks is annoying.
Last time i remember they added two energy weapons - and even them look much better than this... And they're free by the way. It's more like "Help us to improve game or wallets", i don't want to blame them, but it's a little bit too much...
I think the riot shield should resist all damage taken in a few consecutive hits. Then slowly increase in damage taken if this is sustained for a certain time, up to a point where the shield will be thrown from the player at a fair distance to where it must be recovered/picked up. Recovery time could be a few seconds penalty. And if the damage is high enough (1or 2 hits from FP or scrake) then the shield would be thrown immediately, possibly at a greater distance from the player. And maybe versus the patriarch it could resist one full bullet spray/rpg only to be shredded and unusable again.
8:23 you take 1-3 damage per hit with it compared to like 5-9 per hit , that's as significant as significant can be :P , but yeah. The prices on these things are just very hard to reason with despite the quality of them being great. The fact that they are shareable is badass but I think that kind of f*cked them into feeling like they cant drop the price, atleast sometime in the near future.
Easy answer : no, no weapon in this game is worth 10$ alone
I'd rather use it when someone"shares content"
$10 is just ridiculous, I don't see a single weapon being worth $10. If you combine the price of all of the weapon DLCs, you get enough money to buy a new game instead.
I agree. The Ion Thruster, however, is worth the $10.
@Skaynne I see where you are coming from but I beg to differ. I mean, the price tag is debatable, but you can't deny that the weapons look good, and the animations are fantastic. They put effort into making them, and it shows. I don't think it is worth ten bucks, no, but I do not think it is a cheap cash grab. I just think it is slightly overpriced. I think that at four or five bucks for these two weapons together it would be fine. That is my opinion though, and you are free to disagree. I respect your opinion.
i mean even if you consider the work they put into the gun, it's just overpriced for 10 euros (or whatever currency you use idc), like if you'd buy any real world item it's obviously probably because it's one piece and every single piece requires a bunch of work, but with this it's literally making the model, the animations, the sounds and the textures n such. sure it's pretty tedious and tiring work but when you think that after these bunch of files are just made that they then just distribute this to everyones game and lock it behind a paywall for 10 euros (or whatever), if one person buys it they're 10 euros richer, so if 10 people buy it they already have 100, etc. it's just not really worth it in general compared to how much work goes into these things in my honest opinion. besides you can buy an entire indie game for this money aswell, why use the same amount just to buy an alternative playstyle in a game you already paid money for?
I think the Riot Shield would be better if it was a separate weapon that you could pair with any of the Swat weapons and provide a bit more extra defense
Exactly
yeah, the downside would be either ur recoil control lowered or ur reload speed bogged down while holding it
I think it would be better if it had a better protection dynamic. The shield seems to just reduce damage, but it would be cool if it could completely neutralise things like projectiles, bloat bile and fire. The fact that you have to scope to protect also is kind of annoying too. It would have been better if the weapon had a parry instead of a fire select.
It just don't work in this game, i wish it was, but it's not.
Nahhh
I remember when all update weapons were free...
I miss those days.
I don't like how the glass is broken on the riot shield
Ikr
same
Inner perfectionist is mad
Yea, they always gotta make stuff look like shit in zombie/zombie like games. Can't just get a mint condition Riot shield, it's gotta be all samey with a busted ass window.
@Devenn Eng is it really 3d scanned? Or they just make it from scratch?
Even they use 3d scan, the artist will change how the shield looks to make it similiar with the concept
Overkill Software: We're going bankrupt, here's a 10 bucks dlc collection contaning a new heist, new weapon mods and a few outfits so we can survive another year.
Tripwire: lol buy diz we gotta upgrade our offices
@Channel07 prefer the game all ya want, we're comparing the business end, not the gameplay
I know I'm late but the payday to dlc was literally copy pasta and did not work on release atleast kf2 dlc works even tho it's overpriced
For the riot shield to be worth getting in game they should:
Increase block resistance
deflect projectiles or make them take like 90% damage.
the riot shield and glock really feels like they combined weapon ideas they had instead of creating new stuff, riot shield + police baton would be a perfect reskin for the bonecrusher.. and glock feels more gunslingery, even though it would be overpowered if duel wielded.
Pekoni Poika I was always thinking that a g18c/cz75 would be a great gunslinger/swat weapon.
@@kalashniben9005 Dual wielding those would be fun. The gunslinger needs a weapon that can mow down mobs in confined locations.
Increasing block resistance sounds good, but taking 90% damage is overkill.
I really wish these dlc weapons were just under some kinda mission/ assignment that anyone can do to unlock them, I get that they need some cash cow and weapons is perfect but it discourages me from continuing to play the game
@NyxPlaysGamez at least Payday 2 sells guns in bundles. Not 10 bucks per gun. Besides that, it's also optional to buy dlc for Payday 2.
Short answer, "no". Long answer, I'd _maybe_ pay ten bucks for all four DLC weapons without skins, and even then that's because I like Tripwire enough to want to support them.
An M1 Garand would be awesome in killing floor 2
I don’t even think cod charges 10$ for a single weapon. That’s kinda bad when u charge more than activision for something.
The DLCs are like 15-20 bucks but at least it comes with like 1 or 2 maps and a weapon.
if your speaking of Call of Duty Ghosts then yea if your talking about any CoD after that your looking at range of Free-400$.
Well cod dosen't sell because of the guns kf2 is only popular because of how good it feels to shoot
Lol, you cant directly buy weapons in cod and there is sooooo many cosmetic bs so good luck getting something good out of lootboxes
I was talking about AW but I guess that works too
COD basically reuses every weapon per game but with a different skin and name to trick kids into thinking " it's totally not the same game from last year!"
They look good but they definitely aren't worth 10 bucks. 2.99 or 1.99 is a more reasonable price for a single gun
Single gun for $6 or $10 for both would be fair. The problem with selling them for 2 or 3 dollars is after Steam, takes their 30% cut and credit card processing fees, TWI would only get a dollar or so per purchase
@@TearsInReign serves them right for breaking their promises
@@alyssasowell774 Im not happy about it either but it is what it is. I think theyre going about it all wrong and would actually make more money in the long run if they charged less and did weapon bundles
But you get 5 skins each
(Sarcasm)
SHADOW xMM but you do, it’ll be better if you could buy it without the skins for less and with the skins for 10
Would definitely buy a remade map from killing floor 1 instead
$10 is just plain robbery regardless of how great the weapon is
@Channel07 I think a $15 pack with 3 in each pack would be nice so 5 dollars for each map
I would love a summer sideshow pack where we get a remastered abusement park, hellride, and steamland
There are quite a few remastered maps from KF1 in the workshop. I have played a few of them.
i'd love to see that big map farm from kf1 come in. i remember that was always like the freakiest map to me, all dark and alone on a huge farm map. easy to get separated ect
Could swear the Nagant model is from Rising Storm 2.
Didn't play that so I can't tell you for sure :D
its most likely just ported from RS2 tbh
Thats because it is, also I think the sound I think might be.
I think it might from RS2/RO2, but the sound is definitely different from the former. Also the reload animation is a bit worse in comparison to either.
@@Bluesparks_ Its junky, there are no ammo count specific reloads, and the clip gets bitch-slapped out to the side somehow.
Need double G18 for gunslinger
Mods on pc
But i no what u mean
Gunslinger SWAT cross perk weapon please, I'd love to have 124 bullets coming out of akimbo Glocks
@@ThereIsNoWifi they can't do that without breaking the game. Dual glocks would be stupidly busted on gunslinger because of rack em up making it excellent against big zeds while naturally being strong against weaker zeds. On SWAT that'd be the fastest big zed killing weapon the perk has by far while also being insane against trash and having the best ammo gain per box in the game.
Dual glocks WOULD be cool, but they would completely break the game because they'd be the strongest weapon in the whole thing.
that could be sweeeeet
lol Mosin is just port from Rising Storm 2 with slightly different reload animations.
Oh really? Welp xD
I'm at the point where I want quality over quantity for these updates now. Like less content but its at least good and hopefully not behind a paywall
Mosin Nagant isn't that bad.
Riot Shield needs work.
Now for the Matriarch fight.
Hopefully it isn't disappointing.
Agreed
I saw some gameplay and it is hella aggressive
Sharpshooters and Gunslingers are extremely effective against her. Also, she is OP on opened maps.
I fought her on the new map in solo and she kept hitting me with her long range attack constantly. I can't imagine her on an open map.
@@wintermanthenforcer So the two best perks vs bosses are still the two best perks vs bosses?
Why does the riot shield and glock look so underwhelming?
hanah ramsy I mean I have some hypothesis
First you hold the shield on your left not even in a defensive matter
Second you dont even hold it that much defensively even while “blocking”
Third cant block
4th they look smaller than in the preview
5th just the angle in general is bad
6th there isn’t satisfying sound for both the shield and glock... same for animations
And finally. Gameplay wise. You dont see any change really
Becai it is.
half the vid is him as Survivalist not as SWAT. SWAT is ridiculous with this and combined with the armor skills, it is a fairly significant amount of damage that it blocks, but not nearly as good as the Bonecrusher is in terms block blocking damage. The Glock looks like it's better damage than the P90 but worse than the Kriss, which means I'm going to take the Kriss, upgrade it, and have the Glock and Shield as a secondary unupgraded. I really wish I could sell the M9 and be able to take both upgraded instead, I would never complain again.
@@ThereIsNoWifi KRISS firerate on a MP7. That pretty much sums up the G18. If you could dual wield it it would be a god tier weapon(for gunslinger), but nope, they had to give it a non working shield that cant even block the dammage properly
What? No it's not ridiculous xD You need to aim to block which slows you down... making this weapon really awkward, if a fleshpound rages at you, he'll hit you more times because you'll just be there infront of him aiming, you're far better with just pulling out a knife which takes no effort to and parry him, then change to a vector and gg. Idk I personally (as it is right now) don't see any potential.
I'm honestly surprised we haven't gotten a normal bolt action rifle for the sharpshooter yet. Like come on. It's a class dedicated slow firing semi auto rifles/ bolt rifles. But the only botl action rifle we have is the M99 and don't count that cus that's a fuckin anti material rifle. It can 1 shit any non-boss Zeds. I'm surprised they went with a Mosin instead of something like a Kar98k.
Speaking of which, I want more ww1/2 weapons. Like a M1 Garand or carbine, MP40, ppsh41, mg42, bren gun, Lewis gun, bar, etc etc.
And as for the g18, i wish they made it where I can just use the gun without the shield, so you can use it on the gunslinger, and maybe use the shield on the berserker. But I guess not
Even weirder, cause KF1 had them
Yeah, some m82 or awp woulb be nice. especially with ironsight or red dot
Even more weird when you think about how they thought an automatic weapon belongs on Sharpshooter.
Kar98k in my opinion isn't as sexy or iconic as Mosin, me being russian it just works that way, coz Mosin rifle can be said as one of the weapons that won a war. Although Kar98k look's sweet with scope and it's stock is just beautiful.
I hear you, but for this particular game it might be too slow. Those zeds will sprint at you full speed in full groups and I can’t imagine taking them out efficiently with a bolt action
Shield + G18 functions the opposite of how I thought it would. Thought that alt-fire would be blocking with the shield with the ability to hip-fire around it, and that aiming would just be normal. The bash could also have higher push or hit multiple zeds. Feels really lame compared to the other DLC weapons
And 50% block for a riot shield is too little
I'm always down for new weapons, but tripwire stopped getting my money when I found out they put loot boxes in the game. Thankfully, I just got a new computer that can run kf2 well, so I finally get to dive into the mods :D (up until now I've only been able to play it on Xbox One)
And even if I did still support them... didn't they have packs of 4 weapons in kf1 for only 5bucks? Fuckers just keep getting greedier...
when you aim with the Riot Shield the damage taken gets reduced 50%
"Don't see much future for kf2 anymore". It is indeed sad but true. And since you asked, no it isn't worth $10. I don't mind if they don't add new content. But ffs just don't contaminate a good game with greed.
I feel like I'm the only person who's somewhat okay with the paid weapons. It's not great, but yet they're still putting in a crapton of effort into the game to add all sorts of effects, animations, and other stuff. Hell, there's 4-6 reload animations for every single gun, and animating isn't cheap by any means.
@@norrecvizharan1177 Regardless of the amount of effort put into each gun (and I definitely agree with you on that point), the price tag is very steep. If you buy the Mosin, along with, say, 3 other weapons, you're already out $40. At a certain point, it goes from being a question of "Is it worth it?" to "Can I even afford this?"
As an aside, I've had the chance to use the Mosin in my last game (Someone was sharing content) and I absolutely loved it! Definitely disappointed that I can't use it more often
Love the intros different ever time *"I cant believe this"* lmfao
I kinda feel bad for developers I mean they put out content often for a not popular game I can’t imagine that they even profit much at all
@@snaxgalore5764 devs arent even good at this game lol
If the guns were five dollars, I’d buy them, but these four guns are now more expensive than the game even if you buy it at full damn price
I was about to make the same comment. Sad to see such a good game make 4 dlc weapons that cost more than the base game.
definitely buying mosin nagant, I waited for this weapon so long :D it look awesome, has iron sight and from what i saw, it looks pretty satisfying, i am big fan of these weapons :D in red orchestra or rising storm i was always playing with these type of weapons
I totally agree with you, if this monetization continues it will be the end of KF2. I'd love to try those two weapons, but I get a complete game on steam for those bucks, not just 2 single weapons to play from time to time, because I just play those classes from time to time, not focus only them because of that weapons!!!
Not sure why the glass on a 3D printed riot shield would be broken, but okay...
I recall an old weapon meme here: Mosin Nagant is a pretty good spear, with the ability to shoot some rounds...
A single character in Mortal Kombat costs less than these single weapons in killing floor. And the mk character still comes with skins
It would be great if you could shield bash sprint with the riot shield, knocking down enemies in your path but has a stamina meter before you can do it again.
*Shoots one bullet of Nagant* "Okay, imma buy you."
Yep
Mosin Nagant Got me most intrigued out of the 4 weapons that must be purchased, even though I would've preferred Karabiner 98 Kurz more.
Yeah killing floor 2 is basically dead at this point, the player counts may be basically the same as they have always been but the core player base has pretty much disappeared.
Sad but true.
The player counts are deffinitely not the same, when year (or is it two already?) back there would be always plenty servers under 100 ping to choose from day and night, now there are like 5 even on friday/saturday evening. And good luck with getting the players for hell on earth diff or objective mode.
@@miroslavvales2069 I was mostly referring to the steam displayed player counts rather than the servers. The steam reported player counts seem about the same as far as I can tell. The lack of servers or HOE players is because the core playerbase is gone.
Both weapons are in my opinion worth it.
Supports the game and
You can play as a Conscript.
And That Dude from Rainbow Six Siege.
They did the tactical reload with the stripper clip right, though you do just slap rounds remaining in the clip off into your teammate's eye.
Regarding the price of the weapons, I think you have to consider that Killing Floor 2 isn't an expensive game to buy, the content that was already included 4 months ago was well worth £19.99. The new weapons definitely aren't meta, not pay-to-win. They're ways to throw a little cash support at TW if you feel they deserve it, and get a bit of extra content out of it, too.
this
I agree
I remeber when it launched on ps4. Only like 8maps??(it's been so long ago.) and basic weapons and if u consider all the FREE updates maps and wepons, since it launched 10 bux ain't bad. I just wish you didntb have to be online to use the dlc wepons...
I think the Riot Shield should have like a "Health bar", so you can actually tank some heavy punches, and after the bar goes down, the shield will break, then you are left only with your glock
Your intros are getting better every time
Another good weapon beta vid! Nice!
*Pathfinder trying to edit some videoeffects*
Oh cool wanted to end slowmo by myself
That's what I call some random ass perfection :D
The 10$ outrage was pretty big but after hearing it helps the game out with funding I don’t mind dishing the dollars out for the guns. Would prefer 5$ for a weapon as some skins aren’t that great in the pack. But it is a nice addition.
It looks more with kar98 because nagand was kind of automatic
I have to admit Pathfinder, that introduction made me laugh that I almost spat out my drink. XD
Itd be neat to crossperk the mosin with zerker. Its a perfect weapon to bridge two essentially opposite perks.
4:14 ... hahaha no... kf2 is going to go down spiral ... ive been telling this for ages .. same thing happened in KF1 .. half the community just quit and left the game, .. when kf2 came out i had high hopes for it ... o well, companies just go back to their own ways, and i am done ranting about it ...
kf1 wasn't too bad, updates felt good in it.
@@PathfinderBoi well remember the good old days when kf1 sold 4 characters for $2.50, and mysteriously tripwire had to make money and single characters became $7.99 ... Peppridge Farm remembers xD
@@sujayramkumar1215 i think ... i understand ... but these ... dots ... are a bit excessive .....
@@banzar1529 ha, well i am 35 and i am trying to sensor profanity before i become a father xD
Definitely feels like people are focusing too much on negatives rather than positives, because at least they're still adding a lot of other content and free maps. Animating, modeling, and sound design doesn't come cheap, especially not when there's several reload animations per gun. So really, I don't think it's that big of an issue, cause it's still a high quality game, with the only difference is that there's just a couple guns you'd have to buy. It's like, so what? There's still free guns being added in, why throw a fit over it?
The G18 and riot shield were buffed, its a damn good weapon now. No regrets buying it.
The thing with the riot shield, it should have been paired with the regular old 9mn, have the decreased damage while aiming, and a full on block on the alt fire, i knew as soon as the glock was announced that the alt fire would be semi auto.
It could have been an opportunity to make the increased damage on the 9mm the swat has shine along with an ammo reserves buff
7.62x54R my favorite cartridge and I'm glad to see the mosin nagant series getting some recognition I'm tired of seeing kar98ks but even in video games mosin nagants are being over priced from 2000s 80$ now 2019 350$ at gun shows to gun shops and now video games 10$ for one old bolt action firearm.
Pathfinder, my slavic bro. I've got some info about Riot Shield.
Actually it CAN block incoming damage.
According to spreadsheet, it has Block multiplier, effective Block angle and listed types of damage you can block.
One thing is that I actually don't know how do you block with shield then.
UPD: Damage Blocking starts when you use Iron sights.
Also, Shield Bash Impact has AoE damage that controls and pushes Zeds back and activates when you land a bash on a target.
It says: "When Shield connects with the target it creates an Impulse area of effect ("explosion") around this target. The area covers 100 degrees angle in front of the player. The initial target takes both - Bash damage and Impulse damage, all nearby targets only take Impulse damage."
M1 Garand, MP40, and Mk4 No. 4 Lee-Enfield.
I really love the Mosin! Tried it out today and it rocks! against the small and Medium enemys you can save a lot of ammo! You can greatly stab em! Its a real nice weapon for the sniper! Played the first time the Survivalist and its a good weapon for him too! Leveled up 13 Levels with this gun!
It is an epic weapon for killing small stuff with just a stab. But you getting bombarded by spiders and shot at from edars... it's still not the greatest thing ever, definitely strong though :D
How to fix the monetization problem:
-Make actual good weapons, that serve multipurpose functionality
-Add a Season Pass mechanic that allows players 2 Week - 1 Month Early Access to new (actually good) weapons
-Release the weapons for free at a determined date, probably under a challenge for the season (Similar to the Christmas Update)
-???
-Profit (Without your community shitting on you)
Or if they just add stuff to keep players hooked for longer, this wouldn't even happen xD
@@PathfinderBoi True, if they consistently updated the game on intervals that weren't seasonal, people would still be hooked. Sadly, it's their own fault for not having an active enough playerbase, leading to the lack of money, leading to their "need" to monetize weapons.
I quoted "need" since we don't know if they actually NEED to monetize the weapons; all if this info is word of mouth from the company, no actual stats or data.
Don’t even have to know how good they are to know the answer is no,$10 for a singular gun in any game is INSANELY Overpriced. Especially the mosin since it’s a bolt gun, it’ll never be as good as any sharpshooter weapon that it would realistically be similar too.
I have to admit the new rifle looks pretty damn cool. The riot shield and gun look cool but it needs to block a lot more damage. I hope it gets upgraded. I'd like to see the g18 in an HRG version for the gunslinger or the sharpshooter. Thank you for the video and the info!
It does block, just the way it does is poorly designed. Like you need to aim to slow yourself down (if you don't have tactical movement) which means you'll get hit more consistently xD
Killing floor 1 community weapons pack goes for 7.99$ on steam it includes 4 weapons under that price.
Kf2 pay 20.00$ for 2 weapons. Do they not see the disparity here?
Here’s some advice kf team. Bring new weapons down to 5.00$ a pop then watch as all those people interested in the guns but not willing to pay an excess buy the guns. Sell the extra colors/skins separate or as a pack for 3 dollars extra. Then set it up to where the weapons aren’t up for steam discount. I.e keep them flat rated. Unless you specifically want them on sale.
Id buy them at that point and im certain the fanbase would too.
The Mosin Nagant is definitely the best DLC weapon they've put in the game so far. No silly gimmicks to it and it's just a fun as hell bolt action. $10 is incredibly overpriced though. I can't afford to buy all of the DLC weapons, but if I were to buy just one it would be that one.
Wow I haven’t even seen anything about this game since 2016 holy shot dude
Gotta love the Mosin Nagant. If a finnish legend like Simo Häyhä aka The White Death used this, you've to buy it. Dude had like 500 soviet kills back in 30's during the winter war making him the deadliest sniper of all time. I wish I could buy the gun already :(
I LOVE YOUR ACCENT, I MUST SUBSCRIBE.
You parry with the bolt action but not the riot shield, did they mess up the coding?
Damn bolt actions rifles are insane
I hope killing floor keeps up the updates and dlc for a long time. I'm not too big on the 10 dallar aspect but it is cool to see this game is still very much alive cuz it is one of my all time favorites
If they keep it up at the rate they are currently, it won't last long. For PC maybe because of all the workshop mods/maps etc...
Honestly Dual Glock 18s would've been way better
what about dual medic pistols?
I love thos 2 Dlc weapons they are soo cool!
Mosin= Bayonet and parry!
Shield= finaly a item which can block dmg for swat and in comparison to other weapons, you can block and attack at the same time! Now that is some new content i like.
None of them seem strong in dmg, but fun in playstyle. Definitely gonna buy both of them. But 10 Bucks per Weapon sure is alot for "new playstyle". 5 Bucks seems more reasonable.But since we also get free weapons you can say, you buy 10 bucks for a dlc weapon and support development of a free weapon.
I never understood why you couldn't block with any gun. Surely that would protect you better than a tiny knife/box cutter/machete.
Better weapon ideas: make the G18 dual wieldable and make them swat and gunslinger weapons. The riot shield would be a swat and berserker weapon that could be paired with smgs, pistols, and melee weapons. It blocks projectiles and resists explosive damage when hit directly by 80%. Sprinting with it holds the shield up and pushes smaller zeds aside and deals damage to them but stops hitting bloats, scrakes, flesh pounds, and bosses (still prone to getting grabbed). You would need to sprint for a certain amount of time before the charge can work. Aiming blocks attacks like a melee weapon would. Drawbacks are slowed speed, extra weight, and increased recoil.
I'm still flabbergasted that finally favorite WW2 weapon is in the game but behind a pay wall.... My luck I guess
NICE
Can't believe this shit finder xD Man you're the best and hilarious
Do you think in the future, those dlc weaps are going to have a discount ?, Like Summer or Hallowen or christmas discount?
The shield should work like in Rainbow Six Siege, defense mode while hip firing and exposed when aiming, it would simply be a weapon that makes you more tanky; another idea, it could be a melee weapon(no glock) that would provide better defense than the knife and also be used to knock down zeds with a bash/ram attack that can be used only while sprinting.
The Mosin feels underpowered to say the least(fully upgraded and can't even 1 shot EDARs, wtf), the shooting speed seems to be about the same of the crossbow but the damage is much lower, plus you have to reload every 5 shots, imo it should be at least a bit more powerful than the centerfire..
I do admit the rifle looks really good because of that parry, but the swat weapon should have parry, and it should be broken up into different weapons, G18 can stay swat but the shield can be for berserker, and the pair can be purchased for SWAT at a discount compared to buying both.
What are those head gear pieces and how do I get them?
Apart from the Ion Thruster, the HRG weapons are so much cooler and viable.
It be cool if they could put these on sale with the game at times and I get why they may need more money but there isnt a guarantee itll keep free content coming
Bolt Action Rifle with bayonet for Sharpshooter is exactly what i wanted
The Nagant actually looks pretty spicy. Decent damage, looks like it handles well, and the melee capabilities seem like they'd make the weapon have a fun kind of "frontline infantry" playstyle. Going to have to say the Riot Shield + G18 _definitely_ needs better defensive power when blocking. The fact that it, a presumably almost full body shield, cannot block bullets whereas the Bonecrusher - a buckler with some holes in it CAN - already leaves a bad taste. But it seems like the tank power even against regular ads is lacking. The best damage reduction is not getting hit at all, and I'd rather just strafe backwards than purposely take armor or health damage. It's gonna need some beefy reduction if they want me to use that close range as opposed to just playing Berserker instead.
Also, the broken glass. Never looks good; either have it be a full pane or just not there.
broken glass looks very cartoonish and sloppy too. i think they are aiming for epic and veteran-esque/post apocalyptic look for the shield but looks lazy instead. maybe changing it with full panel yet bit of crack here and there instead with blood smudge or something? or just no panel at all.
LOL puberty finally hit huh? Funny hearing your voice chance since I have been here last!
Combination of puberty and my mic most likely :D
first video game I've ever seen where a mosin nagant reload includes a small animation of the guy manually removing the stripper clip before closing the bolt, I've never seen a game get that right before, the bolt didn't push out the stripper clip like it did with most rifles of the period
Good video :D
Riot Shield protects from 4 damage of a FP (14 to 10) ^^
Thank you, and yeah it does protect... but the way it does is super awkward.
Cant believe this shit is worth 10 bucks Finder here!!! Dont ever change my guy.
For $10 I would kind of hope the weapons would be game breaking. It's sort of lame to pay premium for such ordinary weapons.
That shield looks underwhelming for trash mobs, but when you were fighting that fp it really was doing a pretty good job negating damage. For example that fp's kick usually does around 70 damage and you only took 21 and its light attacks were doing 7-10 damage instead of 20-30 so I guess that shield is a lot more useful for big zeds.
The Mosin-Nagant fits well with Strasser wearing the Stahlhelm!
Still the weapon dlc cost MUST be reduced to 5€! TWI also should remove the ugly low-effort skins from the bundles to reduce their cost!
EDIT: Is there a chance that these weapons will go on Sale? On PS4, Xbone and PC?
I want more ww2 guns the mp40 and the kar98k with a scope would be nice.
Would still prefer the Mauser Kar Karabiner 98k to go with Strasser, but I've been wanting a proper bolt action combat rifle for so long I think I'll take this even with the price tag. Kinda wish they had an alternative version without the skins bundled on.
I had the same idea of the Mosin nagant except Instead it would be a Remington 700 with a bayonet and a flip on scope
I wonder if they recycled animations for the Mosin from Red Orchestra.
That is one thing I like about Killing Floor - you have a developer whose other big product is an obsessively realistic combat simulation, and they bring the attention to detail in weapons - the skins, the mechanics, the animations, everything - over to their arcadey zombie shooter.
Can you tell hos did you get that set for Anton Strasser,i have dlc and all and dont have that.Ty your videos are best!
Riot shield seems to block 50% of damage - when you get hit by a fleshpound in the video, without the shield you take 20 damage and with the shield you take 10 damage.
Also, one bullet, or tick of damage from the patriarch's chain gun does 5-7 damage without shield, and 2 damage with shield.
But it's extremely awkward because you have to aim to block... Much rather just switch to a knife to parry and switch back to a vector.
@@PathfinderBoi I think it's that way on purpose because they had to add a downside. The g18 is basically the P90, so having a p90 with 50% damage reduction whenever you need it might have been too much.
You can literally pull out a knife which takes no effort and parry damage xD So this riot shield is pretty... mediocre. I know they said no pay to win, but pay to underwhelm is also pretty bad.
@@PathfinderBoi Yes, and the downside to using the knife is that you have no gun. Everything has an advantage and a disadvantage
i've never seen this game before, but it looks fun, I may have picked it up to play with that mosin, if it wasn't a tenner. were it 2-3, maybe even 5? i'd probably get it, but this pricing is just greedy.
The game by itself is super fun and can be addicting, if you're a new player you can play for a long time, but if you followed the game from start... You'd see it's going downhill.
How does it feel to know the sharpshooter's bolt action rifle is a better defensive weapon than a *shield*?
I would pay ten dollars for all of the current dlc weapons together. And even then, only because I want Tripwire to keep going and do well because I love this game
Im fine with paid customization, but paid exclusive weapons? Like almost everyone would like? No, not worth 10 bucks.
I knew they wouldn't use my Riot Shield idea lol. Lot cheaper to lazily develope the shield, rather than put some thought into it like I mentioned, with expensive refill-purchasable, 300 or so armor on the shield that negates 75-100% of damage, and 25-50% when at 0 armor. Balancing and such would come later to prevent it from being too OP. Trash killer and Lane denial/blocking perk, instead of just a trash killer. A tanky shield would have created a new playstyle for the perk, and added more camping viability.
They went for the DLC way... They can't make this weapon the new "meta" so they made it mediocre.
It's cool that you can block with the Mosin Nagant, but I wish they would do this for other weapons too. Knife only blocking for non-Berserker perks is annoying.
It's not that bad, it doesn't take much effort to pull out a knife and switch back :D
This game is worth 19,99$ on steam lol 2 guns cost more.... Am I the only one thinking here is something wrong?
Last time i remember they added two energy weapons - and even them look much better than this... And they're free by the way.
It's more like "Help us to improve game or wallets", i don't want to blame them, but it's a little bit too much...
I’ve shot the mosin irl and it’s crazy powerful, feels like it could dislocate your shoulder.
I wish I had some gun ranges close by to test some shit.
I think the riot shield should resist all damage taken in a few consecutive hits. Then slowly increase in damage taken if this is sustained for a certain time, up to a point where the shield will be thrown from the player at a fair distance to where it must be recovered/picked up. Recovery time could be a few seconds penalty. And if the damage is high enough (1or 2 hits from FP or scrake) then the shield would be thrown immediately, possibly at a greater distance from the player. And maybe versus the patriarch it could resist one full bullet spray/rpg only to be shredded and unusable again.
Or just make it's resistance the same as the bonecrusher, currently it does deflect some damage, not much, but still something.
8:23 you take 1-3 damage per hit with it compared to like 5-9 per hit , that's as significant as significant can be :P , but yeah. The prices on these things are just very hard to reason with despite the quality of them being great. The fact that they are shareable is badass but I think that kind of f*cked them into feeling like they cant drop the price, atleast sometime in the near future.