WHOA LOUD! Subwoofer Box Build - Step-by-Step
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- I’m working on a fun LOUD-FOCUSED build for a Jeep Wrangler, let’s build a custom ported subwoofer enclosure, but what is important for adding extra strength for this HUGE SUBWOOFER?
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You are the definition of "pro". So impressed with your work and I've learned more from your videos in the last month than all other resources I've accessed over the past 25 years of doing casual installs. Thank you for sharing all your knowledge and experience for us guys that have to do it ourselves because we could never afford to hire someone like you. Appreciate ya'. :)
here's a tip replace the mic with a kick drum mic youll be able to record the full effect
Youll blow the kick drums membrane
Damn near any mic is better than an on camera mic. Really needs to up his mic game immensely.
You'll never EVER be able to get anywhere near the full effect....even if the listening end has a $10k playback system, it's just not gonna come across even remotely close to what it originally was. Certain things are very hard to reproduce sonically...even with a subkick microphone, mind numbing bass like that is lost. The only way to experience that is to be right there.
@@rickfeith6372 so my studio recorded albums don't sound the way they did in the studio?
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 Not entirely....most consumer grade gear has some built in EQ...for whatever reason, from factory tuning, to not flat speakers, to listening position, and a dozen other little things that all add up to a massively different listening environment, take that for what it's worth. This is the philosophy behind studio monitors....they are "supposed to be" extremely flat in their response. That means that from 20hz to 20khz (human hearing) the speakers shouldn't add or subtract more than a couple dB across the board if you measure them. Basically, if you can make something sound good on decent studio monitors in a proper listening environment, it should travel well....that means it should sound even better in your car stereo/hi-fi headphones, home theater, etc.
So there you have it....you can pretty much guarantee that whatever you got won't sound entirely like the producer intended, but that's just the nature of the beast....it doesn't mean that it sounds bad, but it will definitely add it's own flavor to the mix.
He should sell and ship those perfect built enclosures. Im tired of going to local dealers that don't know how to properly align and assemble enclosures.
That's why I watch these videos and build my own crap.
or even unassembled would be great for those folk that don't have a table saw and router table but could easily screw it together.
@@unsaved013 was just thinking about how big the marker would be for pre measured, cut and rounded kits for boxes like this could make a killing. And help people have amazing systems also
*COUGH* Kicker's factory enclosures *COUGH*
Used to think their woofers were crap until I made a proper enclosure.
@@unsaved013 I think you're on to something, man. I don't have a router or table saw either and those perfect cuts are sexy.
So much learning happening.
I've been doing this for fun since 1992 and I absolutely love your channel. I just wish I had like 50 cars and millions of dollars to build system after system with everything I learn from your channel.
Thanks!
Do one good car. Use it to make a name for your self by show it off. Become the people champ. After that you may have to much work for you alone.
@@NTZClaw I have a mint 82 civic hatchback I'm thinking if building a system for it.
I think I should do a channel. I could get some fun projects going.
@@jiakabery3550 right
The Toothless Vegan - You can help build mine if your near NJ 😂
oh man i wish i had someone like you to install my system.. the love and attention to detail is clearly visible..
That's cool and all.. but you will never learn anything
You should invest in a kick drum mic like a Shure Beta 52a that is design to handle those low frequencies perfectly. Run it through a Zoom recorder and then over sun the better audio into the video in post for the system demos.
So far no car audio channel I follow has done this. I know it takes more time but the demos would be more accurate.
Not being critical. Just coming from an audio engineer and tech director of 25 years. Might help.
I have microphones capable of capturing the bass. The problem is 1000 people will watch on their iPhone and then tell me there is no subwoofer bass because they don't understand their iphone doesn't produce that bass.
This is probably one of the best subs made. It not only beats hard and gets low but it sounds great also. The sundown and others do great getting low but lack on SQ. This is were Rockford fosgate, jl Audio, mtx, Memphis do a great job delivering both SQ and SPL
Been doing automotive electronics for a bit, you have a great approach to this field. Very modest but informative. Some people's ego bleeds into their videos, thanks for being courteous and professional.
The dry fitting suggestion is excellent. I have definitely made that mistake before. I made a box for a small SUV that was supposed to perfectly fit in the cargo area with the rear seat up. Then when I installed it I forgot that the tail gate angled inward so even though I though I had undersized it slightly, it ended up being exactly one inch too long to fold the rear seat back up.
Awesome bassface! Nice SPL step up. How many DB?
👌👌👌👌 Looks great dude!
Absolutely slapping that royalty free music 😅
Thanks mark!
I was pleasantly surprised!
@@CarAudioFabrication can u make a video reviewing the Jl 13.5 w7 ported. Really loud and clean sub.
Shebbe - Shed is the best royalty free song ive heard for bass testing
Whoa! Did Mark from the Fab Kitchen just knock out building a working enclosure in one episode and even included a test bump session? Can't wait to see what friendly fire Doug has on this one! Great looking build so far looking forward to seeing what's in store for the Wrangler 2.0 build.
You made that look so easy, but that is a lot of skill and attention to detail. Very very nice.
Nice build! That Rockford is laughing at that little amp :0)
More like a chuckle
That amp is putting out 1800rms lol
Yup. Got an old school t2 12"
@@whoismarkjones9283 dammmmmmmnnnnnnn
As always, impressed with your craftsmanship. Please give that subwoofer a second 1500 amp though :)
Spectacular build bro. I wrote off Rockford in about 2006 but this sub looks like it is well built. Glad to see them coming back. I was a huge fan in the late 90s.
I would suggest using a countersink bit to make recesses for your screw heads. I didn't see it happening here, but MDF can sometimes split when the screw head impacts even when predrilled.
I need a link to that spacing tool you use. I've been doing this by hand and, well that's primitive now that I see your tool. Good purchase.
Cant wait to see this wrapped up. I like that you're securing the enclosure to the vehicle. I'd love to see some custom head screws holding the sub in!
Well if you cant find one you can always use one of those old school jack in the boxes that has a boxing glove that puches you when you turn the handle.
Also make sure the box fits through the ENTRANCE to your trunk. I measured my trunk and ordered a pre-fab box, only to find out it wouldn't fit through the entrance of my trunk. It theoretically could have fit in my trunk.
Should measure, watts in vs SPL out.
So Doug, that is how you build an subwoofer box in one episode... @SoundmanCA
Janne Kokko and that is why I stopped watching Soundman vids. Dragging everything out over a year...
Nice work Mark!! Bonus points for the subtle flex on @SoundmanCA for assembling it on an actual kitchen table 👍🏻
Doug could never 🙅🏾♂️
Crutchfield is awesome, been using them since 1994 👍🏻 absolutely the best audio place to buy a headset , you are an absolute professional, it doesn’t get any better than your builds
I love them. They've been the most helpful place to buy from. Other shops send me home with only 1/2 the things I need to install audio. Crutchfield sets me up with everything I need.
Looks great, but can you back up the build with some frequency response numbers? Great video!
Which frequency was tuned that enclosure and the size of the box?
This was a truly helpful video, however I would like to see a video showing how to calculate cubic feet and port size and frequency tuning.
Have you ever built a subwoofer enclosure from 3/4 birch ply laminated with formica on the internal surfaces/ports? Seems to me that would produce optimal stiffness, reduce weight, and eliminate any concerns about the voids in the plies or roughness of the plywood surface.
One question I've never gotten a good answer for when assembling an enclosure: Is it better to 1) start from one end of a row of screws or 2) to do the ends, then the middle, then the rest, or 3) middle and work to one ends? Honestly, when building mine it usually depends on the length and number of holes, but I always wondered if there was an objectively optimal way.
Hi Mark. I wanted to ask you something. I glued together a sandwich of 5 sheets in total (HDF, cork, plywood, cork, HDF) around 3/4" thick. I want to build a subwoofer enclosure out of it.
What is your opinion on such a mix?
interior braces, why go with a square format ( it's easier ) Go with a more round format, soundwaves are smooth.
I love the different position of the port. Not a fan of it being in the front. Awesome build. I definitely need help with exact dimensions for my xfl 12. Got all the wood and materials.
Kudos to crutchfield ive bought gear from them many times before and they have always taken good care of me when something goes wrong. I would highly recommend them.
This was an awesome video as you showed how to make sure the sub is perfectly submitted into it's custom box. You're awesome. Thank you for always going over and beyond in what you do. God bless you for what you do.
Just to see marks face yeah man that’s wasup! Wow when he heard that thing start hitting ! His face lit up like it was Christmas! Love it man great build mark keep bumpin !
Thing was barely even moving. Impressive! I remember my first top firing, port rear facing box. Did a 144.5 with a single DC lvl3 on 700 clamped in my full size Yukon. Very similar box design. Great work!
Crutchfield does have amazing customer service.
Yeah and everything is overpriced
The look on his face when the sub woke up was priceless! It was my most favorite part..hahah. awesome work on the enclosure
your facial expression alone says it all
nice build 😌
The success facial expression is always the best feeling lol. Nice enclosure. That Rockford sub is nice.
It slams!
Клёвые станки и инструмент! Есть где разгуляться фантазии в творчестве. Привет звукофилам! ;)
Jeezuz Christ, all the boxes I see these days you need a trailer for.
If it's a ported enclosure it usually will be substantially bigger. But you have other options & here are 2 options that I like. You can use a sealed enclosure. Which usually requires less air space. But does require more power to be as efficient. As a ported enclosure & also may have less bass than a ported enclosure. But my favorite enclosure is 1 with 2 passive radiators. With a subwoofer in a medium kinda small enclosure. It just depends on the tuning frequency that is desired. To me it's the best of a seal enclosure size. But still having deep bass like a ported enclosure.
Well it cant be that small he has 8 8 inch subwoofers equaling 64cinches of cone area. So go figure its not a single 12 or 10
@@grantrenfrow9434 well wouldn't it be 8 x the square root of 8 unless the 64" subwoofer is only 8" wide.
Im new to car audio is razor Power Acoustik amp 1300 watts actually putting out 1300 watts
Thos guards on that table saw are dope.
Would this style of enclosure (sub up) work in a trunk build, if I were to face the port towards the cabin? I would seal around the box for any “bass leaks”.
Working on the new sound system for my 78 Blazer has been a great experience after watching all your tutorials. Thanks!
Holy blazers! My 79 is swiss cheese!
Crutchfield is legit, great place to deal with.
Mark I don't see a link to the awesome spacing tool at 7:56 on yer site.
That is 1 hell of a box dam.
Watching all those videos I am starting to realize that the Chanel should be renamed to "CarAudio Perfection"!
He's good! Those braces for that box look complicated. I'd like to see his most complicated box. Like a work of art. 😛
Awesome craftsmanship. I always learn something from you. Great job.
I see a lot of comments on how many db. People sometimes it doesn't matter. I respect the bass. I've been an installer at a shop for over 13 years. Sometimes it's about matching the rest of the system. With some planning the car can also sound like a great sounding home theater system. Plus if its a nice car too much bass does do damage. Just my two cents. Great vid and build Mark.
Sub foward showing between the captains chairs and port facing back. Ford Expedition. Would that work out?
The cut are sooo clean. Love it
the threaded inserts are actually placed into the bottom side of the through-holes, then fastened into with bolts through the sub ring holes from the top side, do I see that correctly?
Could get a lot more output with something else for less.. this sub might be one of there more output oriented speakers but it’s still more sq oriented than output.. should make a vid with some sundown zv5’s or some x’s.. if you can afford this you can afford one of those. Have a good one and great content!! Love the box designs.
hey mark good vid but wheres the speaker terminal?
I always feel like he doesn't add the terminal placement into the vids lol! So frustrating
I'm glad I'm seeing these again... RF really gets it done!
Subs up, port back. Is that the ideal enclosure for a vehicle that’s essentially an open air vehicle with the top off? If the owner doesn’t take the top off then it’s not a factor but for someone that does drop the top, what would the ideal enclosure if topless.It’s a big topic of discussion on Jeep forums. Popular consensus is sealed, down fire. Would that be accurate? Any feedback would be appreciated.
Iv always wondered why Rockford started building od ball sized subs.... Wonder why that is lol.. I'm so used to 12s 15s n 18s.. but 13" 16" n 19" just sounds weird plus the sub cut out is strange and you can't use a standard 12" sub size with it's box anymore unless u build a new front end
well despite you saying that the camera mic was clipping while recording, I am still a bit confused to either invest in a subwoofer or not, I am not a loud bass guy and definitely not a "rattle everything inside the car" guy. Can anyone still tell me is it good enough investment? Currently I am planning to put in some 4 way speakers from Pioneer in my 2011 lancer along with a pair of tweeters. Should I put in an amp anyway despite not using a subwoofer atm? Also, should I go for RF 3 way speakers or pioneer 4 way speakers?
Professional craftsmanship at its finest. 👍
Please list the threaded inserts? I'm quit nervous to potentially destroy my custom box trying to figure out how to use them. Can you do a video on training us how to install them several ways, like from the top if box is already built
Rockford or JL....who is the king of the high end 13" pigs in your opinion?
Nice this guy is very good at installing.
@CarAudioFabrication where can I get that spacing tool you're using in this video? Didn't see it on your tool page link
Should sell those custom made boxes with CAF signature 👍
Crutchfield has excellent cs
Ok what square footage do you need to build a sealed box in an S10 with a cut-through in the Old Skool 12 hx2s? This is a trivia question I had four of those in the bed of my truck the hit 157.4 with two Phoenix Gold 600 titanium series? Just a trivia question that's all all this is equipment was from 2000. In my 2000 S10
Im like an addict to your channel... no food or sleep! Since i found your channel i have just been binge watching lol. Awesome info
I've heared that glue holds the box together. Screws work as a clamping force while the glue dries. But how about those inserts? Do they need to be glued in placed?
that's the video I looking for
Birch ply first time due to my single 13w7 weighing so much . Does birch resonate?
I'm w u on using mdf. In my experience it does help keep resonance down.
I use 2 layers of 3/4" BIRCH glued together , ssa evil 18, xta 2250d @ 1 ohm. Double 3/4" on everything
That sub needs to be on 2 Chainz “Most Expensifive Shit”.
i salute the patience of the skilled 🫡
ty for the video...may I ask how many square inches the port inlet was and what length you used??? thanks
I wouldn't mind building a box like this for my skar ddx 15 lol
I have a 2015 Chrysler 300c what set up would you recommend for it. I'm looking for a better sound then the factory speakers. Would like to change them out ..
I just bought this sub. I paired it with a rocksford power 1000 amp. Is my amp big enough for this 13” power subwoofer?
Man I would "kill"for one of those Rockford subs.
Not a person but maybe a roach or something I usually kill without feeling bad about it the next day .
😄
I like it!! You do clean installs in the past, now you are running with the big dogs!!
Has a Q for anyone to answer, can I wire a 3way coaxial and a 2 way component set together in series, and if so, which would be the first inline and do they need to have the same Rms input or would I set the gain to the lowest value?
In your experience. Which is louder.? The t-line inclosure or the ordinary ported ones?
Crutchfield is a great company, they get a lot of kudos ' so do you mark, great work and detailed work, and no cutting corners
Can you help me with a good design for 2 skar Evl 12s and a taramps 5k amp? I’m hoping for 5.5-6 cubes tuned anywhere 28-33 hz, and to build a box to replace my backseat in crew cab 2012 f250. I was thinking forward firing and ports up, then build a custom for the top to utilize when needed as a bench seat as well.
I got a new JLUR wrangler. I’d like to replace the stock Alpine subwoofer. Any ideas on a compatible replacement with and amp that fits in the stock location?
what threaded inserts and bolts I should get? Post links please?
Which amp is better? The audio control lc 1.1500 or the JL Audio Rd 1500?
Nice work, great tutorial, very helpful! Cheers and thanks. (Currently reinforcing and custom fitting an old vintage steamer trunk and could not figure out how to best-contain my sub from the lefts and rights and still have room for a touchscreen on the front, this solved my problem, thanks bud!)
Rockford needs to come off that price.. If im spending that id rathwr have a W7..
bro i know i’m hella late but i just watched a 3 min ad for you.. only because it’s christmas. happy holidays
I have a small question, Does port direction matter? I ask this because when a subwoofer moves the air exiting and entering the port moves 180° out of phase to the subwoofer, can this rob acoustic energy similar to 2 speakers being wired in opposite polarity?
I need to get and learn to use a router w/table. Then again I need to get a table saw as well. A bunch of bits and accessories. Awww hell lol easier, faster and cheaper to pay someone that has all that.
You make some of the best car audio videos! Makes me want to pick it back up and post more and make videos like you mark! Pretty cool man
The program you are using to build boxes. Is that yours or is it a program that could be bought and used by someone else?
Thats all I build my systems for, is the bass. Dont care much for the lyrics, esp in rap songs. But I do love the bass, a true bass head I guess. I always want more thump in the trunk.
In 2006 I went to world famous IFA spells like Int'l Broadcasting Exhibition, where I sat in some US American show cars like Dodge Charger or Humvee with great audio installations. Even some smaller European cars with sophisticated installations were shown. 18" or larger woofers were used, but not put into enclosures instead mounted in organic shaped carbon fiber frames. This way part of the cabins still looked occupied but also half open, so I assume the entire cabin was used as resonance room. My listening experience was overwhelming. I wonder how some people till now give recommendations to build loudspeaker housings into cars these days. Of course one can have a deep bass in the trunk of let's say a Benz SE 560 occupying the entire trunk, but the space is gone and how will GFs respond to that?
This should be called the caf lab so nice and clean those Diablo blades r nice
Can u make a video on building a sub box for putting a box behind the seat of a 2017 f350 crew cab for a 12 inch shallow mount sub?
That was some impressive single sub output.
Would there be a way you could help me on this question? Can you use a amp that has rms power of 1125watts at 2 ohms and a max 1500watts at 2 ohms with a subwoofer that has 950 watts rms and 1900 watt max? Btw i have a boss audio pm1500 amp and also wondering if you have any suggestions for that amp?
Hey mark what you think about 6th order enclosure