E. M. Forester's novel set in Italy+ Charles Sturridge's guiding hand+ Michael Coulter's impeccable cinematography+ Mirren, Davis and Bonham Carter (a trifecta) =A truly memorable and gorgeous film!❤
"See the little towns...' a line from A Room with A View, also with Helena Bonham Carter, uttered in this film by the actor who played her brother Freddie in A Room with a View.
A tender scene when the baby was being bathed. Gino, the baby's father showed disbelief at first, looking for his child around the room, then anger - he loved his baby very much.
Never even heard of it but I sure am glad I watched it. I absolutely loved it. When did this come out? Because if mid 90a that means Helena was doubling on the Harry Potter set. If it lines up but idr the release of the first movie. I know they were a ways after the book craze happened. But I wasn't young enough even back then. So I didn't get into Harry Potter until I think the 3rd or 4th movie came out then I started reading the series. It would be interesting though. I don't think I've seen her in anything since her and Tim Burton divorced. She is such a versatile actress. Everybody was raving about Helen mirren in this and that's great and she's great too. but Helena Carter is just awesome in her movies no matter the A list or indie scripts.
A relentless look at the British elevated classes of that period and the way they regarded those whom they regarded as lesser creatures, never mind human beings. This mindset was not only applied to their own working class people but also inflicted on the Irish, the Indian subcontinent, the colonial Dutch of South Africa who were just plowed under by the superior Imperial yoke of that time. How cruelly things have turned out for their resident descendants who are so bewildered at the way history is busy repaying them for their past transgressions as the last vestige of the old Empire crumbles to dust and Britain is no more Christian, English or Anglo Saxon. An excellent watch with brilliant acting & the spot on accurate historical images of that period.
FORGET ALL THIS "POST VICTORIAN" INDUSTRIAL BULLSHIT, I WOULD GLADLY CLAP [IN PRESENT DAY] EITHER ONE' THESE LIMIE TART ACTRESSES ...... HELEN SHOULD BE IN A CALIGULA REMAKE, THE OTHER WAS IN FIGHT CLUB
This movie is gorgeous ! The scenery. The clothing. The attention to detail, to the era. The architecture is so rich. If it had no volume, I could still enjoy this movie, just looking at each set, or scene(idk)? Anyways, What a treat for the eyes and heart ! Thank you so much for sharing this-for free!-on youtube ! That was a really kind thing to do, so thank you very much ! I'm liking & subscribing now !!! God bless ! ❤ 🙏🏻
Wow. The hubris of the rich and entitled to whatever they want. Their banal response to creating destruction, death and devastation in the lives they consider lesser beings.
In hindsight though, the rich are ‘entitled’ because those who feel less bestow upon them that ‘entitlement’. Our society sees that ‘removal to obstacles’ for the rich is a way of recognizing the disparities of the social classes.
Kinda like what humans have done to other species of animal. it is of no wonder that they do it to each other. Why do we think it is so repugnant to be compared to other animals?
The music was heartbreaking beautiful. I liked this movie. I could see why both women fell in love with Gino. They both grasped at love and never looked back.
Watching and hearing those 3 vultures chewing their food and talking about their dead relative and her child and how the Italian spouse gets nothing while they would obviously steal her new-born baby's wealth to sustain their pathetic lives really pisses me off.
I'm only 1:57 in and have to stop to share this: I was JUST thinking about Judy Davis AND HER HAIR yesterday on the train. This is synchronicity or whatever. Never seen this film before and did not know the title but I have seen photos of Davis in this movie and loved her hair/costume. I know I'll be enjoying the watch. Plus Rupert Graves is in it- yay!
Harriet was such an idiot!! One of those people that when she dies, the stars will shine a little brighter. Davis, as usual, is brilliant in this part. Many of her mannerisms and line readings remind me of her performance as Lucy, the deranged, bitter dumped lover of Harry Block in "Deconstructing Harry."
I not only love tis movie-I adore it! The location, the sets, the people, the acting, drama, realism, compassion portrayed, acted, directed, and shown by these amazing actors and the director who masterfully created this endearing portrayal of otherwise despicable characters who I soon fell in love with. Simply gorgeous, lovely, passionate, compassionate, compelling, heart rendering, beautiful story of love, life, and the winding tales of lives intertwined, tore apart, and brought back together in cinematic excellence, balance, and harmony leaving me totally satisfied and longing to return to the world that I adore-forever back to the people I love, adore, and cannot wait to return to again.
The ending was absolutely terrible and disgustingly sad No feeling just oh well attitude trust me Italian people do not act like this!!! Seriously shameful No sorrow shown of a baby that was abducted and killed Made this intire movie morbid
No Justice for that baby either. That was the weird part. That sister should have in been in jail. That was unrealistic. Also what happened to the dead baby and a funeral? Other than that I liked the movie.
@cannyexplorer5357nyexplorer5357 It's time you move on with your antiquated sexism. The world has changed in recent decades. You clearly haven't. There are global shifts in how we attribute job names etc for men and women - with good reason. They are all Actors now. You just haven't moved on with the reality of these times. Hilariously, you're part of the problem. Not only can't you move forward, you feel a strong need to maintain a YT presence as some kind of Besserwisser. Sad, sad person. I've seen you do this with quite a few movies. Very sad, sad person. Och du är ingen Viking!
@ester... That's quite a coincidence! Did you know her at all or just another face in the hall. Either way a fun fact. Ignore the nasty responses!😊 Cheers!
What an enormous sense of entitlement the British upper classes had. Quite shocking really. To be well brought up but with no love, or badly brought up but loved. That said it all.
Exactly, what an insufferable woman throughout the entire film. I couldn't stand her and that nobody put her in her place. The brother was so feable minded.
I love novels set in that period and the films made based on most of them but this particular one ?.....It's beyond me . The story , the characters .... so shallow. Lilia ups and leaves her daughter after becoming widowed, falls in love with a young peniless Italian much younger than her which is possibly the only realistic thing than often happens to older women, the inlaws' obsession with the child that is not even their blood ? Women didn't have any rights to their husbands' fortunes. They weren't in danger of losing it . Carolyn's intervention. And finally the baby's death which is criminal and seems like a footnote in the whole scheme of things . They were desperate to get the child to raise it " properly " and then his death seems so inconsequential. Gino evidently moves on to his next rich "fix" and in the end Carolyn says she's in love with Gino ? The whole storyline is rediculous ?!?! There's no depth in any of these characters....
Reading the comments - but that is the whole point of the book. The truncated and warped emotions of the day and age. Beautifully articulated in this film. These emotions still abound today just in a different dress, different form. Nowadays we have puff diddy.
I appreciate the characters played by the tremendous actors & the Allegory in almost every scene in character, particularly the jug of milk at the end. So much play at that scene, 'Don't cry over spilt milk'. Thankyou for the movie.
I don`t understand. What`s delightful about it? Harriet Herriton`s hysterical outbursts (however well-acted) were extremely annoying. A baby died because of some stupid idiots. A baby whose mother died because of giving birth to him. Harriet Herriton committed a crime and her brother Philip did nothing to prevent it. They weren`t punished for what they did and after just some days after the little baby`s passing, Philip is smiling and making jokes. In the end, not even the father or even the father seems to care very much. All seems hunky dory. I found the movie very depressing.
@@lechat8533fiction is just a glimpse of reality where angels dread to tread. Reality is worse. There are father's and mothers who don't care for their children! Worse than this case!
A bitter sweet pill to swallow. What did the kidnap / abduction of a baby accomplish ? A story can end the way it does in this movie , very convincing and not diappointing.
SPOILER Alert 🚨 I would have liked the ending more if Gino did kill Phillip. Phillip wasn’t the one to snatch the baby and so him being another (semi) innocent victim would have given me more balance in my feelings for the characters involved because I’m left with nothing but hatred for the British side of the film.
While their husbands were free to sample the pastries whenever they wanted. I would hope to be rich and single in those years. Lol - am actually that now, but too bad that I am now OLD too.
@@piratessalyx7871 --(Sat,10.19.24) And maggats, rePUKEnians, and conSQUIRRELatives intend on repairing our present situation by setting us back into the Victorian era. Stay Strong. Protect the Weak. And, STAY WOKE--VOTE BLUE! ===
Helen Mirren was way too old to play the part of Lilia, who is supposed to be 32 or 33. Mirren was 45/6 when she made this movie. She acted the part well, but her age makes the whole thing risible (like Margot Fonteyn dancing the part of Juliet at 15 when she was 43. Ghastly). The movie would have been perfect otherwise.
I know of a Ukrainian woman that had a perfect child at 45. My Grandmother was 42 when my mother was born. Older rich woman with poor young man. Perfectly plausible
It was all great, but i felt the movie skipped over events too quickly without showing much from them, like Helen passing away, etc. Also, the baby dying was all shown in darkness, and i had a hard time catching what was happening. Otherwise, wonderful actors, scenery, costumes, yes
The plot stretches the imagination. No remorse over the death of a baby, no criminal action against the abductress, depiction of Gino( and by extension, Italians) as a heartless, self seeking individual. The only thing the movie captures well is the pomposity of the English.
The very quick scene where we see the mother come to Italy to see her daughter carted off to prison gave me some hope there would be a price to pay for their treachery. Only then was I obliged to give the story credence. Such gall and self-conceit the English family had, Otherwise, first rate performances by some highly regarded film legends.
What a fd up premise for a movie. She thinks she will be loved by Gino. While she is the one of three who conspired against him and killed his child. That is fd up.
You would think that Harriet Herriton would be arrested in Italy for stealing someone's child or that she would be arrested upon returning home, Strange. Anyway, In Victorian times, rich people could get away with all kinds of crimes. They didn't bother to get justice for people like Gino. A bit like now.
So the English villains mean to snatch a baby from his father, kidnap and kill him and Helena Bonhem declares "this ends here.. no revenge" ??? No criminal procedings , no nothing? wtf! What kinda of a moron was EM Forster ?
I use my PC and am a senior with hearing difficulties (even with my hearing aid) so have a clip on speaker that goes into a USB port to power it. The sound is very crisp and has a volume dial. It is about 2" wide and 6" long.
@@esterherschkovich6499 When it's an error in the title of the video, and about a renown actress, it matters. Do you call Bette Davis Betty Davis? Or maybe you do…
A wonderful costume and atmosphere film. In this film Rupert Graves -especially when he is in Italy- almost resembles Dirk Bogarde when he played the composer in Death in Venice (1971) of Luchino Visconti. It seems that if you upload an entire film that YT does not allow you to include the year of release? ( it was 1991 . . .)
Leopold 1 is one example, funny thing about the plebeians in this narrative, just as in the "real" world en masse and solidarity mean nothing toil and effort do however.
E. M. Forester's novel set in Italy+
Charles Sturridge's guiding hand+
Michael Coulter's impeccable cinematography+
Mirren, Davis and Bonham Carter (a trifecta)
=A truly memorable and gorgeous film!❤
"See the little towns...' a line from A Room with A View, also with Helena Bonham Carter, uttered in this film by the actor who played her brother Freddie in A Room with a View.
I've been wanting to re-watch this for years. Thank you, youtube.
A tender scene when the baby was being bathed. Gino, the baby's father showed disbelief at first, looking for his child around the room, then anger - he loved his baby very much.
I thought some of the scenery was painted backdrops till I saw the carriage driving through the golden fields. Beautiful!
This Movie is only available on BluRay region 2 , so its a blessing to see it posted here .
Never even heard of it but I sure am glad I watched it. I absolutely loved it. When did this come out? Because if mid 90a that means Helena was doubling on the Harry Potter set. If it lines up but idr the release of the first movie. I know they were a ways after the book craze happened. But I wasn't young enough even back then. So I didn't get into Harry Potter until I think the 3rd or 4th movie came out then I started reading the series. It would be interesting though. I don't think I've seen her in anything since her and Tim Burton divorced. She is such a versatile actress. Everybody was raving about Helen mirren in this and that's great and she's great too. but Helena Carter is just awesome in her movies no matter the A list or indie scripts.
Thank you for the movie, thought the child was going to end up with a happy life and loving parents,the end was not what I expected 🙁
Beverly, please don't spoil the endings of movies. Some people glance at the comments to see if it's worth watching.
Don’t read the comments if you are afraid of having parts of the movie revealed
Never heard of this movie before!! HBC and Mirren!! ❤
A relentless look at the British elevated classes of that period and the way they regarded those whom they regarded as lesser creatures, never mind human beings. This mindset was not only applied to their own working class people but also inflicted on the Irish, the Indian subcontinent, the colonial Dutch of South Africa who were just plowed under by the superior Imperial yoke of that time. How cruelly things have turned out for their resident descendants who are so bewildered at the way history is busy repaying them for their past transgressions as the last vestige of the old Empire crumbles to dust and Britain is no more Christian, English or Anglo Saxon.
An excellent watch with brilliant acting & the spot on accurate historical images of that period.
FORGET ALL THIS "POST VICTORIAN" INDUSTRIAL BULLSHIT, I WOULD GLADLY CLAP [IN PRESENT DAY] EITHER ONE' THESE LIMIE TART ACTRESSES ...... HELEN SHOULD BE IN A CALIGULA REMAKE, THE OTHER WAS IN FIGHT CLUB
There will ALWAYs be an England.. Christian, English and Anglo Saxon.
This movie is gorgeous ! The scenery. The clothing. The attention to detail, to the era. The architecture is so rich. If it had no volume, I could still enjoy this movie, just looking at each set, or scene(idk)? Anyways, What a treat for the eyes and heart ! Thank you so much for sharing this-for free!-on youtube ! That was a really kind thing to do, so thank you very much ! I'm liking & subscribing now !!! God bless ! ❤ 🙏🏻
You remind me of ME! I know exactly what you mran! It's all eye candy..
❤😂Dito
Strange plot, strange behavior, strange everything.
Yes. I'm shocked.
Wow. The hubris of the rich and entitled to whatever they want. Their banal response to creating destruction, death and devastation in the lives they consider lesser beings.
Some things don’t change.
Need revolution
In hindsight though, the rich are ‘entitled’ because those who feel less bestow upon them that ‘entitlement’. Our society sees that ‘removal to obstacles’ for the rich is a way of recognizing the disparities of the social classes.
Kinda like what humans have done to other species of animal. it is of no wonder that they do it to each other. Why do we think it is so repugnant to be compared to other animals?
Reflections of the corrupt useless monarchy
The music was heartbreaking beautiful. I liked this movie. I could see why both women fell in love with Gino. They both grasped at love and never looked back.
Thanks so much. Beautiful film and divine ladies. Phillip had his hands full. They were all great.🎉🎉🎉 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Watching and hearing those 3 vultures chewing their food and talking about their dead relative and her child and how the Italian spouse gets nothing while they would obviously steal her new-born baby's wealth to sustain their pathetic lives really pisses me off.
Exactly. Detest them.
Things haven't changed.
Kier Starmer and the leftoids playing with our lives and freedoms, they are the new elites, us the mere fools
Seeing the two Helen's, made me want to watch. Two great actresses. Especially Helen Bonham Carter.
Not two Helens. Helena Bonham Carter.
Helen B and Helen M - 2 Helens
@@CS-hu7mj Her name isn't Helen, it's Helena
HBCs’ eyebrows speak volumes.
& our australian judy davis woohoo
I'm only 1:57 in and have to stop to share this: I was JUST thinking about Judy Davis AND HER HAIR yesterday on the train. This is synchronicity or whatever. Never seen this film before and did not know the title but I have seen photos of Davis in this movie and loved her hair/costume. I know I'll be enjoying the watch.
Plus Rupert Graves is in it- yay!
Harriet was such an idiot!! One of those people that when she dies, the stars will shine a little brighter. Davis, as usual, is brilliant in this part. Many of her mannerisms and line readings remind me of her performance as Lucy, the deranged, bitter dumped lover of Harry Block in "Deconstructing Harry."
What a marvellous cinematic treat. Thank you so much for sharing 🙏🙏❤
Absolutely Splendid !
James Ivory quality but with à fresh look .
( 40 years after 'A room with à vieuw' and I'm still in love with Rupert Graves ! 😊)
I not only love tis movie-I adore it!
The location, the sets, the people, the acting, drama, realism, compassion portrayed, acted, directed, and shown by these amazing actors and the director who masterfully created this endearing portrayal of otherwise despicable characters who I soon fell in love with.
Simply gorgeous, lovely, passionate, compassionate, compelling, heart rendering, beautiful story of love, life, and the winding tales of lives intertwined, tore apart, and brought back together in cinematic excellence, balance, and harmony leaving me totally satisfied and longing to return to the world that I adore-forever back to the people I love, adore, and cannot wait to return to again.
I've just watched this. Bonham Carter was her usual wooden self. That's 90 mins I'll never get back😊
And you continued to watch despite your disdain. You only have yourself to blame not HBC
😸😸😸
@@janepogson IN HOPES IT WOULD GET BETTER NO DOUBT...WHICH IT DIDN'T...BTW.......
The ending was absolutely terrible and disgustingly sad
No feeling just oh well attitude trust me Italian people do not act like this!!!
Seriously shameful
No sorrow shown of a baby that was abducted and killed
Made this intire movie morbid
I agree
If you want a happier ending, watch A Room with a View. Some of the same cast, and even more gorgeous to look at.
No Justice for that baby either. That was the weird part. That sister should have in been in jail. That was unrealistic. Also what happened to the dead baby and a funeral? Other than that I liked the movie.
Thanks for the warning. I will not watch.
What a lousy and unrealistic ending. They act like the baby dies - oh well.
That Helen Mirren played Queen Elizabeth 30 Years later is incredibly ! Even then she was a great actor 👍
Actress!! Be proud of the title.
@@cannyexplorer5357YOU WERE CROWNED THE GRAMMAR POLICE I TAKE IT??
@cannyexplorer5357nyexplorer5357 It's time you move on with your antiquated sexism. The world has changed in recent decades. You clearly haven't. There are global shifts in how we attribute job names etc for men and women - with good reason. They are all Actors now. You just haven't moved on with the reality of these times. Hilariously, you're part of the problem. Not only can't you move forward, you feel a strong need to maintain a YT presence as some kind of Besserwisser. Sad, sad person. I've seen you do this with quite a few movies. Very sad, sad person. Och du är ingen Viking!
These days the brother and sister kidnappers would be prosecuted for manslaughter but in the good old days ……
Umm in the ood old days it was the same as now.
I love the imposing score! So subtle and basically fits the mood in every scene. It's by Rachel Portman.
What a strange story. I don't know whether I liked the film, or. Not. 😮😮😮
Maybe you should read a bit more of Forster. You'll understand the underlying meaning better. 😉
I'm feeling the same. It's so sad!
Thank you - I enjoyed this immensely - great to see two of my favourite actors, Helena and Rupert, in their fairly early careers.
Helen Mirren went to my school 😊
So?
@ester...
That's quite a coincidence! Did you know her at all or just another face in the hall. Either way a fun fact.
Ignore the nasty responses!😊
Cheers!
What an enormous sense of entitlement the British upper classes had. Quite shocking really. To be well brought up but with no love, or badly brought up but loved. That said it all.
Had?
Yeah,..right?
Still at it today don't need to look any further then the inhabitants of Buckingham Palace
Castrating English 'memsahibs': so many of them around, with wimpy little men in tow.
This is my second time seeing this film. It's tragic. 😪
Yes. I was not prepared for that. I don't know what to think. Heartbreaking.
HELENA BONHAM CARTER !
It to show what anybody can get when it comes to greediness . 💔
She should have been charged with kidnapping, and murder.
Exactly, what an insufferable woman throughout the entire film. I couldn't stand her and that nobody put her in her place. The brother was so feable minded.
@@garynilsson416 really? And here I thought it was a news report.
@@barbarapoulden9235 👎 then be smarter and not read comments before you finish watching the video. Comments are meant as a place to discuss the video.
I love novels set in that period and the films made based on most of them but this particular one ?.....It's beyond me . The story , the characters .... so shallow. Lilia ups and leaves her daughter after becoming widowed, falls in love with a young peniless Italian much younger than her which is possibly the only realistic thing than often happens to older women, the inlaws' obsession with the child that is not even their blood ? Women didn't have any rights to their husbands' fortunes. They weren't in danger of losing it . Carolyn's intervention. And finally the baby's death which is criminal and seems like a footnote in the whole scheme of things . They were desperate to get the child to raise it " properly " and then his death seems so inconsequential. Gino evidently moves on to his next rich "fix" and in the end Carolyn says she's in love with Gino ? The whole storyline is rediculous ?!?! There's no depth in any of these characters....
Hee, Hee!
Helena Bonham Carter, Judy Davis and Helen Mirren all in the same movie ................ I'm going to enjoy this !!!!
Me too!!
Maybe not. 😕
Well, did you? I surely didn't.
@@Nasauniverse001 Not as good as I thought it would be --- but it passed the time
this is the woman maggie smith and judi dench are chatting about in a room with a view...just before "that kiss"
And Lucy and Freddie Honeychurch are back together also 😉
That’s right! In a Room With a View! Forgot about that. 😮
No
Yes. A youth . . . ten years younger than herself!
Reading the comments - but that is the whole point of the book. The truncated and warped emotions of the day and age. Beautifully articulated in this film. These emotions still abound today just in a different dress, different form. Nowadays we have puff diddy.
Royals
And closed primaries😢
Judy Davis is always great at playing these types of characters 👌
She was brilliant as usual.
Judy Davis has been the same in all rules she played.
@@annaw5604 Is that good or bad?
What a lovely treat this movie was to watch! Thank you, You Tube!
Judy Davi, what an awesome actress ❤
She is fabulous. So under-rated.
I appreciate the characters played by the tremendous actors & the Allegory in almost every scene in character, particularly the jug of milk at the end. So much play at that scene, 'Don't cry over spilt milk'. Thankyou for the movie.
If that was the meaning, it's sad.
Thank you for this download 🙏
Someone treats you bad, get legal action ie paper trail asap and distance yourself physically and emotionally from them - you don't need abusing.
What a delightful movie 🎬 beautiful story🎭 line & so well👏 acted really worth watching 👀
I don`t understand.
What`s delightful about it?
Harriet Herriton`s hysterical outbursts (however well-acted) were extremely annoying.
A baby died because of some stupid idiots. A baby whose mother died because of giving birth to him. Harriet Herriton committed a crime and her brother Philip did nothing to prevent it. They weren`t punished for what they did and after just some days after the little baby`s passing, Philip is smiling and making jokes. In the end, not even the father or even the father seems to care very much. All seems hunky dory.
I found the movie very depressing.
@@lechat8533fiction is just a glimpse of reality where angels dread to tread.
Reality is worse. There are father's and mothers who don't care for their children! Worse than this case!
Such a delight, Helena Bonham Carter is out of this world
I LOVE HER FAIRY GODMOTHER IN THE NEWER CINDERELLA!!😊
Sad but well done. Surprisingly enjoyed but not the ending 😢
Reminds me of Room with a view... another great movie
EM Forster's world.
A bitter sweet pill to swallow. What did the kidnap / abduction of a baby accomplish ? A story can end the way it does in this movie , very convincing and not diappointing.
Wow even a total train had to come in. Not to stop that final Happy End . 😂😂😂Brillant!
SPOILER Alert 🚨 I would have liked the ending more if Gino did kill Phillip. Phillip wasn’t the one to snatch the baby and so him being another (semi) innocent victim would have given me more balance in my feelings for the characters involved because I’m left with nothing but hatred for the British side of the film.
Yes, Harriet was the hideous one and deserved some just karma.
HELEN WAS VERY PRETTY AND STILL IS.
Thank you for sharing this beautiful movie 💙💚🌱🙏
Poor child 😢
the characters aren't believable at all...no psychological reality, they look insane. Scenery and clothing are beautiful.
This movie was strange, problem puzzles and endless dead ends-nothing. Around with no where to go. Potential-wasted.
It's very English....😊
If ever I am in the mood to be aggravated, this is what I have to watch.
A Room with a view and Howard's End were both great. Strange that this one was so bad.
Such a sad, sad story :( :(
Very strange story... sad and so without any sense...
Tiene muchisimo sentido!!!!
In England and in Italy were identical, a woman married couldn't go out without a maid with her.
While their husbands were free to sample the pastries whenever they wanted. I would hope to be rich and single in those years. Lol - am actually that now, but too bad that I am now OLD too.
Friggin men keeping women down for so long
@@piratessalyx7871 --(Sat,10.19.24) And maggats, rePUKEnians, and conSQUIRRELatives intend on repairing our present situation by setting us back into the Victorian era.
Stay Strong. Protect the Weak. And, STAY WOKE--VOTE BLUE! ===
People create all kinds of ridiculous problems for themselves whilst not looking or thinking, then play out the drama!
So cool the actors are and the film is hilarious!
Great British actors, thank you
Helen Mirren was way too old to play the part of Lilia, who is supposed to be 32 or 33. Mirren was 45/6 when she made this movie. She acted the part well, but her age makes the whole thing risible (like Margot Fonteyn dancing the part of Juliet at 15 when she was 43. Ghastly). The movie would have been perfect otherwise.
Thought it was the whole idea?
@@karinvantubbergh3418 I did too - the rich older English woman marrying her poor 21 year-old boy-toy. Sugar Momma.
I noticed it too, and then I scrolled down the comments until I saw your comment. I had the same thought.
I know of a Ukrainian woman that had a perfect child at 45. My Grandmother was 42 when my mother was born. Older rich woman with poor young man. Perfectly plausible
@@thecook8964 Plausible, but not true to the novel it's a screen version of. Helen Mirren is marvellous but too old for the role.
I am first, always love bonham’s movies
I imagine the title is based in the old English saying “ Fools walk in where Angels fear to tread”.
Fabulous cast ❤
Hmmmm....not too sure about this one....bit dark for me.
Helen Helen and Judi .... WOW!
Incredible operatic voice begins at 58:55
It was all great, but i felt the movie skipped over events too quickly without showing much from them, like Helen passing away, etc. Also, the baby dying was all shown in darkness, and i had a hard time catching what was happening.
Otherwise, wonderful actors, scenery, costumes, yes
The plot stretches the imagination. No remorse over the death of a baby, no criminal action against the abductress, depiction of Gino( and by extension, Italians) as a heartless, self seeking individual. The only thing the movie captures well is the pomposity of the English.
The very quick scene where we see the mother come to Italy to see her daughter carted off to prison gave me some hope there would be a price to pay for their treachery. Only then was I obliged to give the story credence. Such gall and self-conceit the English family had, Otherwise, first rate performances by some highly regarded film legends.
So wanted to see this. Thank yu utube
Great movie !!! ❤❤❤
Behold: I come quickly; hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. Revelation 3:11
Weird movie
Harriet needs help - nightmare but hardly surprising bearing in mind the mother
What happens to Harriet ? last I saw her, she was crying in the thunderstorm after the accident.
I CAN NOT HEAR THIS MOVIE CAN YOU PLAY IT AGAIN LOUDER? 😕
Expect a rude commercial interruption every 5 minutes ‼🥵
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What a fd up premise for a movie. She thinks she will be loved by Gino. While she is the one of three who conspired against him and killed his child. That is fd up.
Umm it’s actually from a book
@@tracyscott2887classic book at that!
What that top comment above said is THE WHOLE POINT 😮!
Good acting but not a nice ending.
Beautiful film of early E,M. Forster novel but ending changed.
Excellent, Thankyou.
You would think that Harriet Herriton would be arrested in Italy for stealing someone's child or that she would be arrested upon returning home, Strange. Anyway, In Victorian times, rich people could get away with all kinds of crimes. They didn't bother to get justice for people like Gino. A bit like now.
So the English villains mean to snatch a baby from his father, kidnap and kill him and Helena Bonhem declares "this ends here.. no revenge" ??? No criminal procedings , no nothing? wtf! What kinda of a moron was EM Forster ?
No experience with women or children? Edward was gay and never married or fathered any children. (from WikiTree)
Read Marcus Aurelius and the Stoics, and you'll understand how far away from 'moron' EMF was.
But the brother does say about the forgiveness of Gino even though there was the trial and inquest.
@@amazingandrea9983 he was anything but stoic. A pedo phile who rampantly sodomized underage indian boys.
For God's sake, it's HelenA Bonham Carter.
thank you, I keep seeing "the two Helens" in the comments as well
Waouh it Isa first movie Victorian style and so modern to show the person like they are
What that top comment above said is THE WHOLE POINT 😮!That’s what Jeeves and Wooster belie and rely on! S. African life is more so for some
Lovely film, the sound could have been better it was difficult to hear the dialogue.
I use my PC and am a senior with hearing difficulties (even with my hearing aid) so have a clip on speaker that goes into a USB port to power it. The sound is very crisp and has a volume dial. It is about 2" wide and 6" long.
I agree, the "background" music often overpowered the dialogue too
Uh… it's HELENA Bonham Carter, not Helen. Jeesh.
Who cares...
@@esterherschkovich6499 When it's an error in the title of the video, and about a renown actress, it matters. Do you call Bette Davis Betty Davis? Or maybe you do…
A wonderful costume and atmosphere film. In this film Rupert Graves -especially when he is in Italy- almost resembles Dirk Bogarde when he played the composer in Death in Venice (1971) of Luchino Visconti. It seems that if you upload an entire film that YT does not allow you to include the year of release? ( it was 1991 . . .)
Leopold 1 is one example, funny thing about the plebeians in this narrative, just as in the "real" world en masse and solidarity mean nothing toil and effort do however.
W O N D E R F U L !
Pretty sure that in the book they weren't saying 'O God' as the only possible way that Forster could think of to express dismay.
Muy buena película, pero sin subtitulos en español 😢
Aqui en argentina ante los mismos sucesos hubiera ocurrido exactamente lo mismo durante la misma epoca
Triste,..pero cierto 😢
Great movie 🤩🤩🤩💖💖
Gentry actors are very good playing real asses!