Great Visual Effects on the Sega Genesis - Viewer Edition!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- In my first video on the subject, I chose the games, but here, I took your advice and pulled games from the comments section. More Sega Genesis games with great effects.
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Episode Notes:
1. All games captured on the Mega SG.
2. Traveller's Tales also did Toy Story from the first video. Those people really could program well for the Genesis.
3. Shadow Dancer is one of the few games I actually prefer the console version of. The arcade was good, the Genesis version is great.
4. I was always a big fan of the Genesis hardware, even after the SNES showed up. The Genesis still had its own look and feel that stood the test of time well. Even when it was aged well past its prime, it still managed to impress.
5. A few of these games have Sega CD variants with even more content. Puggsy, Mickey Mania, and Out of this World spring to mind. There is also a Saturn version of Sonic 3D Blast, but it's much less impressive there. - เกม
Everyone: Did you watch the PS5 reveal?!
Me: Damn those Genesis graphics are amazing!
I like the Xbox better. It would be easier to render in 3D on a Genesis - like how they had a 3D render of the Genesis in the Overdrive 2 demo. :D
For starters, it's the Series X the marvel of horsepower, not Ps5... but yeah, when you consider the hardware that is running something, the context helps to gets marvelled, doesn't matter if it's a 16bit machine.
@@musicvideoenhancer Xbox ? LoL. Ok. Maybe if you want a "HTPC"
The Lost World looks like an early PS1 game. That's a compliment by the way.
The Sega Genesis version of The Lost World looks so much better than the PlayStation and Saturn version. I didn't even know it existed!
Same! I now realize that I only played the first Jurassic Park game because Holy S***: those graphics would've blown my 10-year-old mind.
I think The Lost World may have been the last Genesis game I bought new when it was released.
yea those lost world graphics are unreal. along with stuff like gunstar heroes, alien soilder, contra hard corps, sonic 3 and knuckles, etc. are we sure the genesis is 16 bit? it seems more 24 bit to me graphically anyway. the complex bosses and tricks it can do are crazy. the cpu is OP as ffffk. the sound leaves a lot to be desired (this coming from a guy the prefers the snes cause of it;s library, but graphically the genny has the edge. though rendering ranger r2 might be the best looking 16 bit game cause the insane action onscreen with no slowdown and level 7, but it's debatable) but normally genesis is just stronger graphically. like how in the fffk can it pull off those lost world graphics, or Panorama cotton, batman and robin, and tons of other example. the CPU is a bully
And not just the graphics... It's a really good game too.
@@razumijinatreides4691 i swear i think the genesis is 24 bit. this coming from someone who prefers the snes for it's library of games. but genesis has the edge in graphics for sure
Genesis was a beast of a console for its time And still is impressive to this day.
I guess you know about the Overdrive and Overdrive 2 demos and also Road to Valhalla. If not take a look because this is insane!
@@brorianszk I must step in and mention the demo group "resistance", for great justice! seriously, these guys are so talented, about on par with titan. if not already done, then check out their demos "masiaka", "the spiral" or their mega drive take on "NICCC 2000"!
If anything, it was quite conventional in its design and very similar to home computers and arcade machines of its era, something which shows in comparison with the SNES. That being said, it held its own pretty well and was really milked for all it was worth. Kinda like the Amiga of game consoles ;-)
Limited by colours unfortunately. Some games use special highlight techniques to override that limitation.
The Lost World looks like a superscaler arcade game
It was a weird game but I remember being wowed by that T Rex Chase.
I had NO idea those graphics were contained in that game. I am in shock.
I need to play this game
Wow THAT looked incredible! must play now!
@G123
Not me.
I have Lost World and Kawasaki superbike
Impressive games with polygones. Fast and great gameplay
The lost world special stages look like Saturn games almost. Stunning
The Adventures of Batman and Robin it's a very impressive game.
And tremendously difficult!
The Sega Genesis was so damn impressive. Sadly I didn't grow up owning one. Only ever got to play the Genesis at a friend's house. I had just Nintendo systems till I was already a teenager. Felt like a total blessing when I discovered Genesis emulation. Being able to take the full Genesis experience with me ON THE GO with a hefty digital game library... Felt like the wait was completely worth it. I love this console! Castlevania Bloodlines is such a masterpiece on the Genesis.
Blast Processing is strong in these games!
I dunno, that helicopter game had a framerate of like 2.
😂 blast processing does actually exist,but it can't be used for gameplay,only title screens or other images to boost the colours on screen from 64 and was never used in any games
The genesis is impressive
@@poncho828 Nope. Developers used some clever tricks, some of which can be done on even the NES. It has less to do with processing power and more to do with programming talent.
Some of those effects have appeared in NES games. Most of these effects have less to do with processing power and more to do with clever programming.
I am SO impressed with that Wolfestein 3D port. It looks way better than the official one for SNES
Yup
SNES had some really good graphic games too. like star fox. so if you compare polygon game star fox seem to run faster on snes
@@BlueRice SNES "cheated" with SuperFX chip :-P
@@Velktron thats actually interesting. i didnt know it had a build in co-processor on the cartridge. i think nes and something build on the cartridge too. i think it was zelda. i dont to google it right now just going off my memory. i think it had battery and memory card to hold save games.
@@Velktron Virtua Racing on Genesis has a gigantic cartridge because of what? Oh yeah, special chip :)
Mutant League Football and Hockey. Such large detailed characters on screen at the same time is quite impressive. Was Sonic 2 special stage mentioned yet? That blew our minds back then. 🤯
That Wolfenstein is actually pretty impressive
That would have sold systems if it was released at the time.
Well, when someone has infinite time to make a thing, they can optimize it as heavily as their skill will allow. Game developers under a crunch time of "Here's some source code to look at, and assets to convert. You have three months to get it completed, put on a cartridge and shipped to stores! Chop chop!" weren't so lucky.
@@SomeOrangeCat Yeah that's great and all, nothing to do with the fact that it was pretty good for Sega tech... Wasn't comparing anyone's circumstances.
@@DenkyManner I grew up playing the PC and still do so it's neither here nor there but still pretty good.
It's certainly impressive but I remember playing the original on a PC with a 286 which ran at 10mhz. So, it's not as crazy to port as say Doom. It's really the ram requirements that get me. The original requires 500kb something on of ram. The Genesis had like 70 something. Also the PC install was 3mb for the shareware version alone. Shaving everything down was a great accomplishment. It's something that feels like it should have existed at the time.
X-Men 2 cold opens to a stage that features some impressive layered weather effects.
And also the Apocalypse stage
The Lost World is mindblowing. No joke, my jaw dropped seeing it here; thanks for sharing it.
jurassic park rampage edition. the parallax scrolling when your riding the dinosaur and the waterfall during the final fight with the t-rex are impressive effects
I know it's technically a homebrew, but I think you should include the Genesis demo for "Bad Apple". Imagine seeing THAT as the intro for a game back in the 90s.
Yup
Love that someone finally focused on these game elements and made videos out of it because as a kid growing up, this is what kept me up at night. I was at an awe at how cool these effects were, and couldn't wait to get up the next morning to keep playing these games. Thanks for the awesome nostalgia 🔥🔥👍💪
The special stages in Lost World give me the bitter-sweet optimism that a port of the arcade Jurassic Park could have potentially been done on the Genesis.
You are beyond delusional. The arcade uses textured 3D polygons. Lost World on the Genesis makes clever use of some 2D image trickery in a restrictive way that couldn't possibly replicate any aspect of the arcade.
@@davidaitken8503 thats why I said port. I do not expect anywhere close to arcade likeness, but you could still do a decent home equivalent using the style the special stages presented. The part with the rex chasing you in Lost World could very well be worked into a console quality equivalent of the rex chases in the arcade original. Thats like saying TMNT 2 on the NES shouldn't exist just because it is nowhere close to the arcade original its based off of. Throw in Menacer support and I think Sega themselves could have put together a satisfying little home version, even more so if you factor in the 32X.
EDIT:
Just realized you may think I mean the Lost World arcade game. I am talking about the 1993 game based off the first film.
@@davidaitken8503 You really are an insufferable asshole.
Man I remember when zero tolerance came out . That was one of the first , first person shooters I ever owned and I was very impressed with it. Brings back good childhood memories.
Yeah I know. We had the cables where you can link your sega genesis to another one and play together or against each other. I remember that. The cables were free and took about 2 months to get in the mail. Snail mail
Daniel Erazo I grew up with the genesis and I had no clue you could do a system link with them?
Wow, those FPS games looked really impressive on the Genesis. I'm actually more impressed at how smoothly they run on the system.
I always thought the Sonic games looked so amazing, great use of color and the two axis parallax is jawdropping, specially in levels where you go over and under the water level!
Sonic and Knuckles reminds me a lot of Rayman - just with smaller sprites and less objects (though they both look amazing).
If I remember correctly the effect of having seemingly partial transparency on the water (something not supported by the Mega Drive hardware which didn't have color blending) was achieved by changing the color palette at the correct time when outputting the scan lines. Which is why sprites like Sonic could be partially in the water and have the correct color shift for only that part of the sprite. Very clever work. Check the channel "Coding Secrets" for some interesting info on Mega Drive and Saturn tricks used in such games, including Mickey Mania and Sonic 3D Blast.
It was mostly the special stages in Sonic 3 that blew me away.
I know it's nothing to do with 'real' 3D, but it still looked impressive.
The Lost World special stages look almost as good as the 1993 arcade game.
Gaiares was a badass shoot'em up... Remember the second level, when it fills with water at the boss scene!?
I would love to see a part 3
It's nice that you mentioned Puggsy. It's a game I overlooked myself and didn't intend to play, but I won it at a TV show back then (which disappointed me as I wanted Flink) and I got hooked pretty quickly : good looking graphics with great use of color, nice visual effects, a physics engine for objects, and a lovely soundtrack by Matt Furniss. Traveller's Tales were mastering the hardware while always trying to push the Mega Drive further with more impressive visual effects. Mickey Mania, Toy Story, Sonic 3D... All those TT games, if not always flawless, were showing something new and special.
The 16-bit era was truly one of the greatest (if not hands-down the greatest)
Even though I've enjoyed a lot of consoles in the time since the Genesis/mega drive it and the SNES are the ones I still come back to time and again.
The opening cutscenes for Vixen 357 and Mega Turrican look awesome! Very 80's Anime style 😎
Both games look great, too - but I believe you already covered Mega Turrican last time 🤔
I really like the visual effects of dusk / evening in Golden Axe and Thunder Force IV. Great use of colors.
Absolutely loving these episodes! You've probably already got this one ear marked for a future vid, but if not, Mickey Mania should definitely make the list for sure, with effects like the "3D" crain (Stage 1), rotating tower (Stage 2), moose chase (Stage 3) and "3D" ghost house entrance (Stage 4), the game is full of neat visual tricks. Traveler's Tales man, they really knew their $#!T! ^^
The tentacled plants in SubTerrania I found to be very impressive. Super hidden gem.
SALUTE “APPALOOSA”....... IN FREAKIN’ CREDIBLE!!!!! The lost world looks MARVELOUS!
Great video. I can see that you put a good amount of work into it. The Sega Genesis is an impressive piece of hardware I missed out on in my youth. I love these videos because they show me what I've been missing.
Your videos keep on getting better and better. Keep up the great work!
I wish you could mention Star Cruiser, a 3D polygon RPG, with firts person shooter and space flight simulation elements. The game has an huge world to explore and its the most similar thing to a Star Fox game in the Genesis
The 3d engine of this game is more optimized than LHX Attack Chopper and Steel Talons, and instead of filling the polygons with plain colors, it uses patterns to simulate textures!
Also you have to consider that this game came out in 1990, 3 years before Star Fox
Plus the soundstrack is amazing, you should REALLY listen to it
I was going to mention this game too.
Star Cruiser needs more attention, it really is an overlooked piece of videogame history. Good to know someone else cares about it :)
Hm, I’ll have to check this out. Thanks for the recommendation!
I saw that you covered Out of this world, but you didnt mention Flashback which I feel is more visually stunning.
Man I can't wait for part 3. I love my Genesis so much, and it's fun to see just what it could do.
Lots of material in Dynamite Headdy you can use; some incredible visual effects in that game.
Also, some of the final levels of World of Illusion; there’s the surreal runs across an infinitely long table, and then that bit where your character goes behind backlit curtains.
This video needs more Red Zone, the intro was awesome, but the gameplay that is the actual piece of cake.
I been lurking on this channel for a few weeks.. GOOD JOB!! You have my Sub!! Just like you Sega Lord, I MISS THOSE DAYS and want them to come back on PS5 and Xbox which they don't do.. PC is close, but in certain situations and circumstances it's STILL limited to the monitor and adapters!! Excellent vid buddy!!
Thank you for showing some love to zero tolerance definitely one of my favorite games growing up.
Jimmy White's 'Whirlwind' Snooker, Gargoyles, Pier Solar (mode 7 stage), Pocahontas, Shinobi 3, Strider, Beyond Oasis (bosses), The Revenge of Shinobi (intro), Rolling Thunder 2 (intro), Desert Demolition, X-Men 2: Clone Wars (Apocalypse stage), Monster World IV (magic carpet), World Series Baseball, Star Fox (fan-made), Star Cruiser, Bad Apple, Dragon's Lair (Robot Knight sequence demonstration), Dynamite Headdy, Greatest Heavy Weights, Ecco: Tides of Time, Quackshot, Summer Challenge, Flashback, Jurassic Park: Rampage Edition, Comix Zone and many others.
Yes Gunstar Heroes totally deserves this list, just the fact it has so much going on at once and isn't constantly slowing down to a crawl is impressive for the time. Some other games may top it in terms of what is on screen or colours, but the fact this game runs as good as it does makes it cut above.
I have to subscribe to your channel simply because you showed me so many good memories 😊
4:50 Damn the grafx lol that heavy bass drop in the boss battle theme was crystal clear and slap hard af (You even heat it again on the transition in a lighter tone). When people thought genesis couldn’t do it... let it to Treasure. Salute Treasure games.
Great video.
I really enjoy your content! Been a gamer all my life and you bring back so much nostalgia for me! Great work!👍🏾 I just subscribed!
Great selection of games.
I'm on my way to a fishing trip and I wanted to check out this video while i sit in the back till we get there. I think the Sega Genesis was an amazing system. I always love to admire the way different game creators pushed the limits of the genesis hardware and software. Great Content SLX!
First of all thanks for your dedication and work Sega Lord X .It's my all time favorite console.I'll talk a bit about some games that i think it's worth mentioning:revenge of shinobi:in the second level i love those waterfall effects,the way the water flows and shines,shinobi 3 final boss ,those background effects are stunning giving almost a 3d depth ,mega turrican when you roll the main sprite,it truly rotates due to clever software programming,plus in the beginning the title game also scales and rotates.In rocket knight adventures i really appreciate those body warping effects in stage 4 boss battle,another cool visual effect is that huge blast shot from Axel Gear,sparkster's arch enemy.Thank you and sorry for my english,i'm portuguese
Lord you are on fire lately. Loving all the uploads bro!!!
SEGA DOES.
Great way to get the fans involved. Cool video.
As always, thank you for the great video!
More great picks! BTW, if you feel like doing another solid but fairly obscure European title, Misadventures of Flink fits the bill. Very unique hand-drawn looking sprites and animation, great color use and smooth sprite scaling and other interesting effects used pretty often.
Great video, lots of amazing visuals there! The Genesis was a beast
Love your channel with the exception of you being a sf niner fan. Lol keep up the good content!
:O I remember playing Mickey Mania. Must have been young. Didn't have recollection untill watching it here.
Absolutely love Shadow Dancer. Played it all the time back then :'>
Just finished it afain in May. Much shorter than i remember.
Such Great games, Good shoutout for the Tec Toy's version of Duke Nukem 3D. That wad a crazy feat for sure!! XD
The Lost World looks friggin NUTS. JEEZE...
I too adore parallax scrolling, excellent video as always my man. Looking forward to the next one Cheers!!
You are a content churning machine. I want to let you know that I appreciate all of the videos that you put out.
I wished Sega would’ve focused more on the genesis hardware and squeeze the hell out of it, instead of investing money on the Sega cd or 32x. That’s what Nintendo did with the snes and they succeeded. I’m sure we could’ve had Doom on the genesis. Great video as always. Hands down, this is currently my favorite channel!
Carlos i strongly recommend investing some time in the sega cd, a very underrated, and powerful system. You need to check out batman returns, sonic cd, and shining force cd in paricular. Or konami's killer game snatcher, trust me, theres plenty of games showing just how good the sega cd was.
@@derekbuckler3859 So much this, the Lunar series wouldn't have been nearly as epic crammed into a cartridge.
I think there's ultimately only so much you can do with a system, but they definitely could have supported it for a little bit longer. The major reason the SNES had such long legs was the fact that they designed the system/cart interface to support add-in chips from day one - many of the most well known games made use of add-in chips that enabled the console to do things that never would have been possible on base hardware (this of course made certain games more expensive). Given how compromised the 32x port of Doom was (whether this was due to the hardware itself or dev constraints is up for debate), it's very dubious the Genesis would be able to handle Doom - the few FPS available on Genesis use engines that sit right around Wolfenstein 3D (fixed height, minimal lighting, no ceiling/floor texture, minimal objects) tech level, with just a passable framerate.
@Daishin no Dōro Oh, you'll get no argument from me there, I'm just saying that there's no way the base Genesis could handle Doom - even WITH the fastest variant of the FX chip, Doom on SNES was a nearly unplayable mess. Zero Tolerance works because it works within the limitations of Genesis hardware - no floor or ceiling textures, no varying heights/stairs etc, it's FAR less sophisticated than something like Doom, and in terms of number of sprites/objects onscreen, probably inferior to Wolfenstein 3D.
@Daishin no Dōro Yeah, it was a game designed around expensive PC hardware, it was a miracle it released on SNES at all, even with the aid of an add-on chip. There wouldn't be a decent version of Doom on consoles until the PS1/N64 releases.
Great compilation! Sega truly was a beast in the gaming wars.
Bad ass video SLX!!!! Such a beast the Genesis was.
Dynamite Headdy, had a great intro level, zooming in and out, parallax scrolling and fantastic soundtrack too! 👍
Hey love your videos and glad to see someone appreciated Shinobi series. I was always a fan of the parallax stuff. I do have a suggestion. Xmen 2 Clone Wars has some great parallax along with nice sprite presentation. The stage with the aliens base is a cool stage. THere's tons of parallax on that one. I mean the whole game itself needs more love Hopefully you will cover that in the near future. Not sure if you did Troubleshooter, or trouble shooting, cant recall the name right now, but that one is a great shooter with cool effects.
In Shadow of the beast (1) there is a teleportation device in the first level which has an effect of which i first thought that my Megadrive was breaking down.
And Soleil (crusader of Centy) is chockfull of great visual effects, especially at the boss fights (the background when facing of against the dragon in Heaven is incredible).
"Thanks to the beefy processor"
Don't neglect the programmers that had to be clever to make it all happen! Jon Burton's work is all over this video.
Very nice video. I loooooove stuff like this.
another great video, keep em coming!!!
Another great episode ! That's....... great!
Holy, I thought I knew a lot of good looking Megadrive games, I was wrong. I loved Zero Tolerance so much! Another great vid, Sega Lord X.
Red Zone for me looked like a 32 bit game and really showed the talent of the programmers. Shame these days I almost think it is too easy would be great to see what people could do with limited resources. Great vid mate!
Great video. Lawnmower Man on Genesis has some impressive 3D style VR sequences.
Thanks for the great video! Shadow dancer and Blood Lines are really amazing. Mickey Mania is another peace of art which I've finished with Game Genie help, of course. The 16 bit era was great, but its the difficult level was as high as its inspirational predecessors arcade machines, truly coin eaters.
Great vid & content SLX.
F-22 Interceptor is another fully 3D polygonal flight sim and runs very well on the Genesis.
Love your „Great Visual Effects on the Sega Genesis“ series! Suggestions for Part 4: Skitchin‘ (amazing sprite scaling), Chuck Rock 2 (burning tree & dinosaur climb), Dynamite Headdy, F-22 Interceptor, Star Cruiser (dogfights, Intro, mazes & towns), Greatest Heavyweights (ring & audience „rotation“), The Lawnmower Man („polygonal“ stages & Space Harrier-style stages), Out Run 2019 (overhead highways & racing through forest sections), Battle Mania 2 (stage 6), Shinobi III, Sub-Terrania (dive into water, last boss), Earthworm Jim 1 (stage 3) & EJ 2, Ecco The Tides of Time (Tube of Medusa), Virtua Figter 2 (3d-ish floors), Pier Solar (over-world map on dragon), ResQ 3d bonus stage, G-zero, Starfox 3d tech demos, TiTAN Overdrive 1&2!
I love your enthusiasm for sega games.
Great video and analysis. Makes me wanna go back and play these or go find others and ay them for the first time.
I'd also like to nominate Ecco 2, Tides of Time. It's overall just a beautiful game and the occasional 3d effects thrown in.
I was a nintendo kid but always loved (and still do!) love sega. Your channel is amazing! Please keep'em coming. Loved the fact that you made a video with the opinions of your audience. Usually the super nes is praised for the FX chip but its incredible to see what the genesis was capable of without any additional processing power... and with older hardware!! Better than the famous FX chip SNES titles in my opinion. Cheers from Brazil!
Love your content, SLX!
Subterrania also had some impressive cinematics, by Zyrinx. Another great video, Sega Lord X!
great work on this video.
I LOVE the music on that Shadow Dancer stage.
Love the work you put into these visual effects episodes. If you do a 3 episode try to include Mystic Defender. That game had some nice parallax scrolling. Stage 4 to be more accurate.
I personally loved batman & robin, and shadow dancer, they still hold up to this day. I always thought shadow dancer was better on the genesis, as i loved the arcade version. Great vid x, thanks
I remember being very impressed by the World Series Baseball batting/pitching graphics. Looking back, maybe not terribly impressive, but i had never seen a baseball game with such a huge batter before. It looked very realistic to me at the time.
Rocket knight adventures. Not only great graphics but stellar sound effects/ music
Incredible games, incredible video as usual lord X.
Great video dude as usual👍
You can add F1 from domark, which is the adapation of vroom from amiga / atari st. Amazing stuff here👍
Another Great Video!
I like how cool is the intro and all the story animations of the game MEGA Schwarzschild, it seems really like a scifi movie :)
Great video! 👍🏻
Growing up kids/classmates etc. when we did the console wars stuff tended to underrate the Genesis' visual prowess. Sure SNES had Mode7, but the Genesis could hold its own and had some amazing feats of hardware pushing visuals
I never really quite cared for the Mode7... though Star fox impressed me as a kid.
Mode 7 was awesome... when used properly and not abused just for the sake of it (a lot of SNES games did that)
I hate to break the news to you, but the SNES could do those "hardware pushing visuals" too. Some of those effects can actually be done on the NES. Most of them have less to do with processing power and more to do with clever programming.
David Aitken The SNES’s CPU ran at less than half the speed of the Genesis’s, so was less capable of pulling off software-based effects. That’s why they had to rely more on additional chips in the cartridges.
I was always impressed by the cutscenes in Flashback, kinda surprised you didn’t mention it especially as you did mention Another World (Out if this World).
and both are better on the Genesis
some great looking games for the genesis is atomic runner and adventures of Flink both are very impressive!!
Nice I had no idea that Sega Genesis was capabel off so much more..I personaly like the Donald & Mickey Ilusion games and “Comix zone”(The impact of fighting felt so good with this funny But hard cartoon style game)have a Nice day Sega Lord X
This is AWESOOOOOME
Excellent video
Genesis is just so versatile. We know the snes is a great machine and what we expect of it is high and it delivers, but the genesis, in the right hands never stops surprising me. People just always seem to be able to get more and more out of it.
An excellent showcase! It's good to see people using that CPU to its fullest, one of the genesis' biggest strengths. I think Earthworm Jim 1 and 2 should probably be looked at next time, because the way they were able to import the graphics on the genesis are stunning, as well as keep all the animation frames in EWJ1's case. But the pseudo 3d of Andy Asteroids and the very complex scrolling in EWJ2's Puppy Love would make for a fun section.
It's kind of lame to count multiplatform games.
Splatterhouse 2 level 7 The Void. After freeing Jennifer, you escape with all the skulls in the background and a big blue guy chasing you is still the best visuals I have seen on the Sega Genesis.