For the Blacky' designed Build Your Weapon pedals go here: bywaudio.com/ Great info from Blacky' on his setup: "Me for NF, Marshall Superbass 1972 (bought used after I got my 76 stolen in the early days after we had just moved form Jonquiere to Montreal in 1986-87) with preamp mod so I didn't need the power soak anymore. The cab was custom design with 4 - 15inch EV 300 watts each 16 ohms. Mic was a 421 direct into a 1081 and an active DI line going into a tubeworks 902 from realtube to a ISA 110 for the clean low end tone. I used my first Liberatore a 1986 with two Dimarzio P bass pickup, one neck the other bridge, depending on the track I could switch each pickup with mini toggle switches with of course a Kahler tremolo bridge with rearward saddles which I didn't used much just to end track sometime. This was my first straight through neck bass, it was almost build right away the first time I met Mauro, I asked him if he could build for me a bass with my own design, I had brought him my current bass at the time which had a cheap neck screwed, one of those that Piggy's dad got cut for us. At first, his dad made piece of wood with great ash which Piggy ask of his own specifics, so we could draw our shape designs directly on them, after he would cut the shape for us back at the shop. Piggy got his flying-V shape one and me that same one for my 86 Liberatore. My first bass was a white El Degas precision copy still in great shape today, a friend of mine has it. The five strings 1989 came after NF was recorded. On the five string (Angel Rat) I have two active EMG J model on 18v, no pre-amp, just two toggle switch on-off. My first Marshall Super Bass 1976 that I bought even before Voivod really start in 83, got stolen in 86 with Piggy's old Marshall as well. That's the one that I used with the power soak that melted (because I was putting it side ways, the soldering were falling off one day, that was funny, I was of course able to soldered it back in place) I also had to have a fan on all the time, so I made a hole on the side and put in a 120v 5in fan, because the thermal protection would just got off all the time. Some basic maintenance was often required. Like putting new resistors on the tube sockets, they would just fried."
Bro I’m just finding this video 3 years late but I loved it. Loved your dirty tone in the opener, too; just about perfectly executed - the idiotbox Blower Box is (of course) just plain made for that sound. And I have to say I am *also* a huuuuge fan of Angel Rat. Cheers! -Dave from The Bass Channel
Love Blackie's bass rig and tone. I can confirm the wear of strings you can do in a day - after I recorded a full album's worth of bass tracks in 9 hours those strings went from brand new and bright to absolutely dead. They felt like a year old strings within a matter of hours.
I used to play my Gibson Blackbird in a 300W Ampeg SVT-Classic and 8x10 cab using the IdiotBox effects Blower Bass pedal. My tone was very similar to Blacky's but there were also hints of Tom Angelripper's bass on Persecution Mania.
I'm so glad to see someone dive into this highly underrated bassist. His tone was like steel grinding on dirt and absolutely disgusting sounding (I mean that in the BEST way). Thank you for making this video!!! Cheers :-)
IMO, the Blower analogy is not about fans behind the amps but about the Snow Blower removal machines seen everywhere during winter in Quebec and loud as hell when rumbling in front of your house when a snow removal operation is going on. And Angel Rat rules
Fantastic video!! Was privellaged enough to see VoiVod many times in my life. Loved how out there they were and not giving a shit about what anyone thought of them.
So glad to see the VoiVod love! The first time I heard Tribal Convictions back in the summer of '88, it changed my life. I couldn't listen to other metal in the same way anymore, and a lot of it I just couldn't take seriously anymore either, musically or artistically. Not every album is great, but the ones that are, lawd lawd. Even knowing now where so many of Piggy's influences came from (Stravinsky, ELP, King Crimson, etc), it still doesn't take anything away from how original his music was. I admit, I hated Angel Rat when it first came out, but after Piggy died I went back and learned all the albums and gave it another listen, and now I love it as much as the rest.
I totally love Angel Rat too. It was my introduction to VoiVod, not counting the videos I had seen. Such great moods on that record. And yeah, The Prow was my favorite tune from it.
I met Blacky a few years ago when he was on tour doing sound for another great Montreal band Martyr (featuring Dan Mongrain-Voivod), I said hi to him in the club and it took him by surprise, I don’t think he expected to be recognized.
I grew up with their music. I wanted to become a bassist after hearing their sound. It was huge and aggressive and they were one of the few bands that made me understand what the bass was.
“Runs like a blower! Eats like a grinderrrrrr!” Blacky! They definitely arrived on earth from a Morgoth space cannon. An unstoppable force. When I started playing bass in a band Blacky was prob my biggest inspiration. Didn’t ever try a Marshall guitar head though. How does that setup sound playing “Overreaction”? A Piggy episode? Love him. Looking forward to that. He’s in a league all his own. Don’t forget the toy space gun. He’d hold it up to the pickups and blast it. It was a regular live thing but in not sure that it made it into any records though.
I can see the Headlines now, they read "TH-camr goes mad and was committed to a psyche ward today, not because of COVID-19 and self-isolation, but because he kept yelling of a fool's promise(spoken in haste) to not cut his flappy excess guitar strings til he reached a 100 patrons". Sad day for the youtube community.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I was just watching Voivod with Newsted again..where was Blacky during that time? actually I just looked it up..ye olde' classic royalties dispute. Killed a lot of good bands.
I saw Voivod on the Nothingface tour in a small rock club in Chapel Hill NC. Believe it or not, Soundgarden opened for Voivod! (Louder Than Love had just come out.) Best show I ever saw. I was there to see Voivod and didn't even know who Soundgarden were yet, but they blew the roof off the place. Unfortunately, more than half the audience left when they finished, so they missed an amazing performance from Voivod. I'd had Nothingface on heavy rotation for a couple weeks, so I knew it well -- and the live performance was like listening to the CD. Wish I remembered more about the gear. I do recall Blacky having a very impressive rack setup with plenty of flashing lights 😁... Not sure if he was still using the Marshall amps. There was so much in that rack, there was definitely room for rack mount pre-amps, power amps, and plenty of effects... As a bass player, I was very impressed by his heavily overdriven but still controlled and distinct tone. The bottom wasn't lost either.
Helix Plane Yes sir. I saw them in Montréal in january 1990 with the same bands. Awesome show. Before that i was one of like 20 peoples who were invite (after a lot of call to the station to win them) to the launch of Nothingface at Musique Plus (Québec’s MTV) and it was crazy. I got out of there with cd demo, t-shirt (even got a drumstick from Away that i turn into a glorious weed pipe, but that is another story) and tickets for the aforementioned show. Best, and only, call to win of my life but honestly think nothing can beat that for me.
So much variety and quality in Voivod works. They touch so many style that wherever you’re interested in a music style (or a few styles like all big music lovers) you are going to need more listening depending on the album. And unlike most other bands, bicker can come from radical music style changes from lp to lp rather than quality, which is quite stable throughout their career. Really gifted musicians. I am just wondering how 4 top nutch musicians can come from a small city of under a 100,000 residents. And fit so well together. Voivod rules!
FFS PEOPLE!! Join the boy's Patreon!! He's a good boy!! Seriously, you put out great content, Owen. And I don't know why people won't hook you up with at least a buck a month. It's frustrating. Killer vid, this one. Voivod has been a favorite band of mine since I first heard them back in 1983. Their version of Pink Floyd's Astronomy Domine is amazing. Cheers!
@@CIRCLEOFTONE You don't have to do it, but it's principle so you do, and I respect that. I, and others who support you already, can increase our support. But what you really need is new blood. And there a lot of viewers who aren't doing their part. Come on you f-n sods! (and I mean that affectionately). Pitch in a buck for Owen's efforts. Don't be a Scotsman FFS. ;D
Awesome video. I have a Blacky Blower on the way and a Blower Box currently on my board. I’ve have also contacted him. Told me at one point he use an AMT M1 Distortion pedal which is based on a JCM800 tone. Found a picture somewhere and he had the AMT, a SansAmp, possibility 2 Boss pedals (tuner and an NS-2?) and something else on his pedalboard.
away is an awesome artist.... my exposure was nothing face.. i drew the ablum cover for a highschool art class... the ne line up is really great too... one of the most OG bands everrrrrrr!!!!
I used to play an Aria Pro II through a Peavy solid state 100 watt Transtube. Go through the high gain channel, there is a “thrash” button. Best bass tones through a guitar head.
Nothingface and Dimension Hattross turned my world upside down . Voivod were everything I wanted music to be. Blacky’s liberatore blower bass was the greatest sound ever.
If you're interested in the lesser-known Influences on Piggy's playing & style, listen to the first LP by DIE KREUZEN from 1984. You'll get it immediately :)
Allone the obsession of changing or washing strings often is a sign he used roundwound strings. Because on flatwounds this wouldn't be necessary. There are three stages in the life of a roundwound bass string. 1. Brand new they have a high end spike some players like. 2. After a short time, about 30 minutes, this spike flattens out, the strings have a consistent tone over some hours. 3. This will be 15 - 20 playing hours. After this time the strings loose a lot of high end, their tone gets dull and dead. This happenes because skin, grease and sweat comes into the wire, dampening the harmonics and high end, they just do not vibrate as they did when new. If you keep them on your bass any longer they may start to rust. If you wipe your strings down every time after playing, you prolong the live span of your strings. If they are "dead" without beeing rusty you can save some more hours of playing if you cook your strings in water with some drops of dishwashing detergent and wipe them dry after cooking. To get the grease and skin particles off the strings some people take a cloth with alcohol on it and rubb the strings off. It may help, I can't tell for sure, never did this. Flatwounds on the other hand have a closed surface where skin and grease can't come in. After they have lost their high end spike, the tone stays literally the same until they break. Flatwounds never will sound as brilliant as roundwound strings. Flatwound afficionados say, that flatwounds have to be worn in and sound even better when played a lot. Back in the days flatwound strings had not a lot high end, but a lot of "thud". Today there are flatwounds with a distinguished high end, like Ernie Ball Cobalt Flats or Fender Cromes. I recommend Elixir Nanoweb roundwound nickel strings, I use this strings for about 15 years now. This strings are sealed through a nanoweb you do not notice while playing, and they hold the roundwound tone for much longer than uncoated strings. I had to change strings often, maybe because I seem to have quite aggressive sweat, although I wipe my strings down with a cloth after playing every time. I had to change uncoated strings either every two weeks or before every gig, just what occured earlier, but now I am able to keep the strings on my basses until they break. In some occasions I had them longer than 2 years on basses, they have not changed their tone from the first day.
I boil my used strings after a week or so of use, rotating new sets with used sets. Boiling for 15 minutes, then drying by wiping down and air dry for 30 minutes, then I put them in the freezer for a day or so. When they come out I let them sit for 30 minutes then wipe them down to remove any condensation. Then reuse. Works for about 3 times.
@@sski You can probably skip the freezer part. A few shavings of dishwasher tablet and a splash of vinegar helps when boiling. Wipe when dry with isopropyl or rubbing alcohol. Regular wiping (except coated strings) with rubbing alcohol on a cloth followed by lifting and twanging hard along the fingerboard helps in between boiling 👍
I've been washing my strings with rubbing alcohol or spirit since about 15 years. They get like new. I place them in a jar overnight , cover with alcohol , and I close the lid.They morning after. Dry them and put them back on the bass. Give it a try . ;-)
Bought the first VoiVod album the day it was released. Was lucky to see them in multiple lineups. Got to hangout with them a few times and have way too many stories about them to mention here. BTW, Away's book of art is amazing. Also, Blacky used EV Force speakers in his early 4x15 touring rig. I believe that started on the RRROOOAAARRR tour but I know for sure on the Killing Technology tour.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Still have the book. Just saw one on eBay for $165. Brought it with me to the last tour to have him sign it. Arrived just before they started so I didn't have time before I had to start video recording.
i so tried to immolate Blackys blower bass in the 80's. I used a Washburn B50 w/ emg (painted black) into a 73 MKII Super lead and a SVT cab along with a DOD 250 pre-amp overdrive pedal....3 rows deep it would de-capitate people, lol
Voivod are progressive in all the good senses of the term without all the negative connatations. Bands can be over sanitised when everything is mixed down. Thats why listening to the guys is so refreshing. There's an anarchic sort of freedom actually integral to the performances. Proper rockin the chaos factor, but keeping it cohesive. They make Metallica sound like a marching band!!!
I would love it if you did Matt Freeman's tone from ...And Out Come The Wolves. I'm sure it's probably basic but the guy is the best bassist in the entire punk genre and being able to know how to get a sound like what you hear on Maxwell Murder or Journey to the End of East Bay would be phenomenal.
Its 4:10 in the morning, I want to go to bed - and see a thumbnail saying Voivod and Blacky. Ok, sleep is overrated. Aaah, and a question: Was there actually bass on "Master of Puppets"? I know, I know, and I commented on your video that you nailed "the unhearable bass tone" of Metallica. Love your channel.
One thing I'll say is that if you want to play a bass through a guitar amp and don't have a 4x12, just run the guitar amp into a bass cab. Works wonders for me.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Oh by the way I would really like for you to someday make a video on Rikk Agnew, guitarist for Christian Death it's really his tone and drawn out style of playing that lent much of the eeriness to much of the Christian Death discography
@@N3ukenInD3K3uken that will be done but I can't find info on it. I want to do it for my Goth Broth series. I'm doing Jesus and the Mary Chain. Goth Adjacent.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE hey dude.. great vids man.. love your vibe... here is a recent gear rig rundown on pinnicks new signature gear... i believe i have seen him using a 12 string bas at one point.. however...... its in this playlist , moan jam is a great example of his tone..... almost on a level like blacky .... similar but obviusly not as hardcore and brutal... two of my fave bassists... black and dug pinnick.... here ya go th-cam.com/play/PLGxJ1BtjLSUlfXbABgbvrqTa4yjTTOmHz.html
Hey Owen quick thought, where do you think A. The overground in music is headed and B. Where the underground is headed I don't even know what is next, underground has hit a wall for the most part and keeps running itself in the ground, and the overground is getting terrible even for the people who like the stuff. So I don't know, what do you think. Do a video on this if you think it would make for an entertaining discussion
How do you explain 9 string djent guitars? Modern speakers have an adequate amount of low freqs for recording bass. You can argue on most djent albums you can hardly hear the bass but the bass is there via the guitars.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Bass frequencies are an octave lower. Look at the voice coil of a bass 12" compared to a guitar 12". Much larger diameter, greater excursion. You play a decent bass amp through them they don't last. They also build up too much heat with an undersized voice coil.
no magic tuning, all standard , only on negatron and phobos , there was a little different on a few songs and on Outer limits(7 strings tuned normally)
@@robertgoyette5863 pleasure, Actually for the first 4 albums they used to tune standard but in 435 which is between 430 and 440...so it is not quite A nor Ab...but in between the piano cracks.
TO THE DEATH!!!!!! Blacky was one of my inspirations when I used to play the fours back in the day! I used to spend hours listening to Killing Technology and Nothingface, trying to pick out the bass parts! Fuck me, I thought Rush was hard!!!! ~_~;;;;;
@@CIRCLEOFTONE True that. I've seen a few bands just play through a PA because they didn't have money for traditional backline. It sounds just fine if it's set up properly. It works especially well for bass.
For the Blacky' designed Build Your Weapon pedals go here: bywaudio.com/
Great info from Blacky' on his setup: "Me for NF, Marshall Superbass 1972 (bought used after I got my 76 stolen in the early days after we had just moved form Jonquiere to Montreal in 1986-87) with preamp mod so I didn't need the power soak anymore. The cab was custom design with 4 - 15inch EV 300 watts each 16 ohms. Mic was a 421 direct into a 1081 and an active DI line going into a tubeworks 902 from realtube to a ISA 110 for the clean low end tone. I used my first Liberatore a 1986 with two Dimarzio P bass pickup, one neck the other bridge, depending on the track I could switch each pickup with mini toggle switches with of course a Kahler tremolo bridge with rearward saddles which I didn't used much just to end track sometime. This was my first straight through neck bass, it was almost build right away the first time I met Mauro, I asked him if he could build for me a bass with my own design, I had brought him my current bass at the time which had a cheap neck screwed, one of those that Piggy's dad got cut for us. At first, his dad made piece of wood with great ash which Piggy ask of his own specifics, so we could draw our shape designs directly on them, after he would cut the shape for us back at the shop. Piggy got his flying-V shape one and me that same one for my 86 Liberatore. My first bass was a white El Degas precision copy still in great shape today, a friend of mine has it.
The five strings 1989 came after NF was recorded. On the five string (Angel Rat) I have two active EMG J model on 18v, no pre-amp, just two toggle switch on-off.
My first Marshall Super Bass 1976 that I bought even before Voivod really start in 83, got stolen in 86 with Piggy's old Marshall as well. That's the one that I used with the power soak that melted (because I was putting it side ways, the soldering were falling off one day, that was funny, I was of course able to soldered it back in place) I also had to have a fan on all the time, so I made a hole on the side and put in a 120v 5in fan, because the thermal protection would just got off all the time. Some basic maintenance was often required. Like putting new resistors on the tube sockets, they would just fried."
I know Im kind of off topic but does anybody know of a good website to watch new series online ?
@Arjun Moses I watch on flixzone. Just google for it :)
Voivod is one of my all time favorite bands and as a bass guitarist myself, Blacky is one my favorites. Thanks for doing this video!
Thanks for watching
Bro I’m just finding this video 3 years late but I loved it. Loved your dirty tone in the opener, too; just about perfectly executed - the idiotbox Blower Box is (of course) just plain made for that sound. And I have to say I am *also* a huuuuge fan of Angel Rat. Cheers! -Dave from The Bass Channel
Love Blackie's bass rig and tone. I can confirm the wear of strings you can do in a day - after I recorded a full album's worth of bass tracks in 9 hours those strings went from brand new and bright to absolutely dead. They felt like a year old strings within a matter of hours.
I could listen to that tone all day, everyday.
Soon as I saw the thumbnail I was like "I should listen to Ravenous Medicine"
Killing Technology is a masterpiece from beginning to end. IMO Voivod captured their best sound with that album.
I used to play my Gibson Blackbird in a 300W Ampeg SVT-Classic and 8x10 cab using the IdiotBox effects Blower Bass pedal. My tone was very similar to Blacky's but there were also hints of Tom Angelripper's bass on Persecution Mania.
So excited for these !!!!! As a bass player who's watched for years!
Awesome. I enjoy bass as much as guitar.
I'm so glad to see someone dive into this highly underrated bassist. His tone was like steel grinding on dirt and absolutely disgusting sounding (I mean that in the BEST way). Thank you for making this video!!! Cheers :-)
Great analogy.
You nail it every time bro, good job.
IMO, the Blower analogy is not about fans behind the amps but about the Snow Blower removal machines seen everywhere during winter in Quebec and loud as hell when rumbling in front of your house when a snow removal operation is going on. And Angel Rat rules
I totally agree
awesome vid.. great song choice amazing bassist blacky RIP great tone dude
You mean Piggy RIP, right?
What a gift this video is.
Fantastic video!! Was privellaged enough to see VoiVod many times in my life. Loved how out there they were and not giving a shit about what anyone thought of them.
Very cool.
So glad to see the VoiVod love!
The first time I heard Tribal Convictions back in the summer of '88, it changed my life. I couldn't listen to other metal in the same way anymore, and a lot of it I just couldn't take seriously anymore either, musically or artistically. Not every album is great, but the ones that are, lawd lawd. Even knowing now where so many of Piggy's influences came from (Stravinsky, ELP, King Crimson, etc), it still doesn't take anything away from how original his music was.
I admit, I hated Angel Rat when it first came out, but after Piggy died I went back and learned all the albums and gave it another listen, and now I love it as much as the rest.
Yep it's just a grower.
I totally love Angel Rat too. It was my introduction to VoiVod, not counting the videos I had seen. Such great moods on that record. And yeah, The Prow was my favorite tune from it.
I met Blacky a few years ago when he was on tour doing sound for another great Montreal band Martyr (featuring Dan Mongrain-Voivod), I said hi to him in the club and it took him by surprise, I don’t think he expected to be recognized.
Dan is doing an amazing job. Really does the songs justice. They could not have picked a better guy to keep going imo.
CIRCLE OF TONE. - yeah he’s a great player and the perfect fit for the band, totally agree. Great channel btw, love what you do and you do it well.
I grew up with their music. I wanted to become a bassist after hearing their sound. It was huge and aggressive and they were one of the few bands that made me understand what the bass was.
Yep. Piggy didn't have a huge sound. But together they were a gestalt entity.
Love Voivod! Nothingface would be in my Top 5 albums anyday.
Your a cool dude, like your videos. My fav voivod is killing technology. The song tornado is just awesome.
Classic.
dajerk70 Killing Technology my favorite VOIVOD release as well!
“Runs like a blower! Eats like a grinderrrrrr!”
Blacky! They definitely arrived on earth from a Morgoth space cannon. An unstoppable force. When I started playing bass in a band Blacky was prob my biggest inspiration. Didn’t ever try a Marshall guitar head though. How does that setup sound playing “Overreaction”?
A Piggy episode? Love him. Looking forward to that. He’s in a league all his own. Don’t forget the toy space gun. He’d hold it up to the pickups and blast it. It was a regular live thing but in not sure that it made it into any records though.
I can see the Headlines now, they read "TH-camr goes mad and was committed to a psyche ward today, not because of COVID-19 and self-isolation, but because he kept yelling of a fool's promise(spoken in haste) to not cut his flappy excess guitar strings til he reached a 100 patrons". Sad day for the youtube community.
Haha. I was so cocky at the time.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I was just watching Voivod with Newsted again..where was Blacky during that time? actually I just looked it up..ye olde' classic royalties dispute. Killed a lot of good bands.
I saw Voivod on the Nothingface tour in a small rock club in Chapel Hill NC. Believe it or not, Soundgarden opened for Voivod! (Louder Than Love had just come out.) Best show I ever saw. I was there to see Voivod and didn't even know who Soundgarden were yet, but they blew the roof off the place. Unfortunately, more than half the audience left when they finished, so they missed an amazing performance from Voivod. I'd had Nothingface on heavy rotation for a couple weeks, so I knew it well -- and the live performance was like listening to the CD.
Wish I remembered more about the gear. I do recall Blacky having a very impressive rack setup with plenty of flashing lights 😁... Not sure if he was still using the Marshall amps. There was so much in that rack, there was definitely room for rack mount pre-amps, power amps, and plenty of effects... As a bass player, I was very impressed by his heavily overdriven but still controlled and distinct tone. The bottom wasn't lost either.
Awesome. I've seen some of thier old flyers and some of the lineups were legendary.
One of my favourite all-time shows. We had Prong (Beg to Differ) as the opener.
Video taped VoiVod on that tour in Cincinnati! The tour before in Columbus!
@@fredvahldiek738 can you link to the video?
Helix Plane Yes sir. I saw them in Montréal in january 1990 with the same bands. Awesome show. Before that i was one of like 20 peoples who were invite (after a lot of call to the station to win them) to the launch of Nothingface at Musique Plus (Québec’s MTV) and it was crazy. I got out of there with cd demo, t-shirt (even got a drumstick from Away that i turn into a glorious weed pipe, but that is another story) and tickets for the aforementioned show. Best, and only, call to win of my life but honestly think nothing can beat that for me.
So much variety and quality in Voivod works. They touch so many style that wherever you’re interested in a music style (or a few styles like all big music lovers) you are going to need more listening depending on the album. And unlike most other bands, bicker can come from radical music style changes from lp to lp rather than quality, which is quite stable throughout their career. Really gifted musicians. I am just wondering how 4 top nutch musicians can come from a small city of under a 100,000 residents. And fit so well together. Voivod rules!
The first time I saw Voivod was on the Killing Technology tour, they have a sound all their own.
Props on the Young Ones shirt.
You may like this vid I did. Do we have a video? th-cam.com/video/7RGMmh0Ku7o/w-d-xo.html
FFS PEOPLE!! Join the boy's Patreon!! He's a good boy!!
Seriously, you put out great content, Owen. And I don't know why people won't hook you up with at least a buck a month. It's frustrating. Killer vid, this one. Voivod has been a favorite band of mine since I first heard them back in 1983. Their version of Pink Floyd's Astronomy Domine is amazing. Cheers!
Thanks man. My strings have become a meme. I get poked more often than a lot lizard.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE You don't have to do it, but it's principle so you do, and I respect that. I, and others who support you already, can increase our support. But what you really need is new blood. And there a lot of viewers who aren't doing their part. Come on you f-n sods! (and I mean that affectionately). Pitch in a buck for Owen's efforts. Don't be a Scotsman FFS. ;D
Just if you guys do not know it, the bass Blacky used is a custom made Liberatore made in Canada, badass axe BTW
Awesome video. I have a Blacky Blower on the way and a Blower Box currently on my board. I’ve have also contacted him. Told me at one point he use an AMT M1 Distortion pedal which is based on a JCM800 tone. Found a picture somewhere and he had the AMT, a SansAmp, possibility 2 Boss pedals (tuner and an NS-2?) and something else on his pedalboard.
Awesome info. Thanks man.
Nothingface was my favorite album. And where you really hear his distorted bass tone.
Classic
If you don't hear it in anything previously released, youre not listening.
Excellent
I'm a huge Voivod fan and thanks for this. Looking forward to the Piggy vid
Thanks man.
away is an awesome artist.... my exposure was nothing face.. i drew the ablum cover for a highschool art class... the ne line up is really great too... one of the most OG bands everrrrrrr!!!!
I used to play an Aria Pro II through a Peavy solid state 100 watt Transtube. Go through the high gain channel, there is a “thrash” button. Best bass tones through a guitar head.
I heard he used to use fans (blower) behind his amps too so they wouldn’t overheat
Nothingface and Dimension Hattross turned my world upside down . Voivod were everything I wanted music to be. Blacky’s liberatore blower bass was the greatest sound ever.
I love The Out Limits
I love your Testament art
Nice t-shirt!
If you're interested in the lesser-known Influences on Piggy's playing & style, listen to the first LP by DIE KREUZEN from 1984. You'll get it immediately :)
Damn! Hard to believe that was being written in 81-83. Great suggestion man. Love your channel by the way.
By the way I think you will like this channel youtube.com/@ripoffrecords
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Yeah, some killer stuff on there. Cheers for that
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Bless you, my Son ;)
@@CIRCLEOFTONE You can also hear some Voivod (from Angel Rat onwards) on King Crimson's 1974 LP "Red". It's subtle though.
Allone the obsession of changing or washing strings often is a sign he used roundwound strings. Because on flatwounds this wouldn't be necessary.
There are three stages in the life of a roundwound bass string.
1. Brand new they have a high end spike some players like. 2. After a short time, about 30 minutes, this spike flattens out, the strings have a consistent tone over some hours.
3. This will be 15 - 20 playing hours.
After this time the strings loose a lot of high end, their tone gets dull and dead.
This happenes because skin, grease and sweat comes into the wire, dampening the harmonics and high end, they just do not vibrate as they did when new.
If you keep them on your bass any longer they may start to rust.
If you wipe your strings down every time after playing, you prolong the live span of your strings.
If they are "dead" without beeing rusty you can save some more hours of playing if you cook your strings in water with some drops of dishwashing detergent and wipe them dry after cooking.
To get the grease and skin particles off the strings some people take a cloth with alcohol on it and rubb the strings off. It may help, I can't tell for sure, never did this.
Flatwounds on the other hand have a closed surface where skin and grease can't come in. After they have lost their high end spike, the tone stays literally the same until they break. Flatwounds never will sound as brilliant as roundwound strings. Flatwound afficionados say, that flatwounds have to be worn in and sound even better when played a lot.
Back in the days flatwound strings had not a lot high end, but a lot of "thud". Today there are flatwounds with a distinguished high end, like Ernie Ball Cobalt Flats or Fender Cromes.
I recommend Elixir Nanoweb roundwound nickel strings, I use this strings for about 15 years now. This strings are sealed through a nanoweb you do not notice while playing, and they hold the roundwound tone for much longer than uncoated strings.
I had to change strings often, maybe because I seem to have quite aggressive sweat, although I wipe my strings down with a cloth after playing every time.
I had to change uncoated strings either every two weeks or before every gig, just what occured earlier, but now I am able to keep the strings on my basses until they break. In some occasions I had them longer than 2 years on basses, they have not changed their tone from the first day.
Thanks man. Great info.
I boil my used strings after a week or so of use, rotating new sets with used sets. Boiling for 15 minutes, then drying by wiping down and air dry for 30 minutes, then I put them in the freezer for a day or so. When they come out I let them sit for 30 minutes then wipe them down to remove any condensation. Then reuse. Works for about 3 times.
@@rsmth43 That's a great idea. My wife has one of those for cleaning jewelry. I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
@@sski You can probably skip the freezer part. A few shavings of dishwasher tablet and a splash of vinegar helps when boiling. Wipe when dry with isopropyl or rubbing alcohol. Regular wiping (except coated strings) with rubbing alcohol on a cloth followed by lifting and twanging hard along the fingerboard helps in between boiling 👍
I've been washing my strings with rubbing alcohol or spirit since about 15 years. They get like new. I place them in a jar overnight , cover with alcohol , and I close the lid.They morning after. Dry them and put them back on the bass. Give it a try . ;-)
Bought the first VoiVod album the day it was released. Was lucky to see them in multiple lineups. Got to hangout with them a few times and have way too many stories about them to mention here. BTW, Away's book of art is amazing. Also, Blacky used EV Force speakers in his early 4x15 touring rig. I believe that started on the RRROOOAAARRR tour but I know for sure on the Killing Technology tour.
Man I bet that is worth a few $$$ if you still have it. Thanks man. Great info on the speakers.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Still have the book. Just saw one on eBay for $165. Brought it with me to the last tour to have him sign it. Arrived just before they started so I didn't have time before I had to start video recording.
@@fredvahldiek738 very cool. I Google the book every few months to see if one comes up for cheap.
I am not a metal head, more into Yes Genesis King Crimson Rush and Voivoid is one my favorite bands. :)
Hehe. Yep. Genre defying.
im glad you went on that rant it led me to killing joke =p now i wanna see this
Fuzz is probably the gnarliest sound I like to use on my bass 3:)
I have some insane fuzz pedals in the wings for fuzz bass.
Nice Young Ones shirt!
You may like this video I did th-cam.com/video/7RGMmh0Ku7o/w-d-xo.html
i so tried to immolate Blackys blower bass in the 80's. I used a Washburn B50 w/ emg (painted black) into a 73 MKII Super lead and a SVT cab along with a DOD 250 pre-amp overdrive pedal....3 rows deep it would de-capitate people, lol
Haha. Make them suffer.
Are we going to get the 'Fat Strings Friday' for the Cronos/Venom bass sounds?
Dude, I actually got into VoiVod when I heard Angel Rat. Then I heard the older stuff and I was like wait...is this the same band. 😂
I was supposed to see Voivod next monday. Good timing on this video tho.
Ah that sucks. Bands are going to be hurting. They don't get paid enough as it is.
Where’s the footage from at 2:22?
Here you go th-cam.com/video/lyRFGCaOlMM/w-d-xo.html
Oh hell yeah! Thank you!
Voivod are progressive in all the good senses of the term without all the negative connatations. Bands can be over sanitised when everything is mixed down. Thats why listening to the guys is so refreshing. There's an anarchic sort of freedom actually integral to the performances. Proper rockin the chaos factor, but keeping it cohesive. They make Metallica sound like a marching band!!!
Agreed.
Thanks for Voivod man! Are you going to go through the Bathory eras sometime (other than the debut I mean)?
Probably not to be honest. Lots of Voivod coming up though.
I would love it if you did Matt Freeman's tone from ...And Out Come The Wolves. I'm sure it's probably basic but the guy is the best bassist in the entire punk genre and being able to know how to get a sound like what you hear on Maxwell Murder or Journey to the End of East Bay would be phenomenal.
I'm good with a pic but he's insane. Haha. Good shout.
Dude do a Darkthrone gear video. Or old Emperor or 1996 Marduk . Id love that
There would no bass guitar in that video at all & all the guitars would have to be tuned UP 😀
Its 4:10 in the morning, I want to go to bed - and see a thumbnail saying Voivod and Blacky.
Ok, sleep is overrated.
Aaah, and a question:
Was there actually bass on "Master of Puppets"?
I know, I know, and I commented on your video that you nailed "the unhearable bass tone" of Metallica.
Love your channel.
VOIVOD!!! 🖤🖤🖤
One thing I'll say is that if you want to play a bass through a guitar amp and don't have a 4x12, just run the guitar amp into a bass cab. Works wonders for me.
Yep that will do the trick. Ironically I blow more bass speakers than guitar ones. Those solid state bass heads don't push like a tube head. Haha
My favorite Voi Vod records were “Killing Technology “ and”ROOAARR”
2:48 I have a t-shirt with that drawing
Awesome.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Oh by the way
I would really like for you to someday make a video on Rikk Agnew, guitarist for Christian Death it's really his tone and drawn out style of playing that lent much of the eeriness to much of the Christian Death discography
@@N3ukenInD3K3uken that will be done but I can't find info on it. I want to do it for my Goth Broth series. I'm doing Jesus and the Mary Chain. Goth Adjacent.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE That's exactly why I asked ;)
Man Voivod rules, new album is amazing. Wish they would make amends with Blacky
It's always about money. No matter the punk ethos.
Rocky is a fine replacement.
Speaking of Tom Scholz, do a boston tone video!
Has to be done
voivod should have been in the original bbc hitchhikers guid to the galaxy.. i think dr who was my gateway drug for sci fi metal!!!
Yep.
Angel Rat is siiiiiiiiick
The best.
do you have th 'piggy' pedal?i cant remember th name of it.ill get back to you on it
Yep. It's awesome.
hey mr circle =] wold you ever consider doing a doug pinnick tone? or are king's x not on your scope of vision?
Lots of respect for him. If anyone knows what he used post it he.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE hey dude.. great vids man.. love your vibe... here is a recent gear rig rundown on pinnicks new signature gear... i believe i have seen him using a 12 string bas at one point.. however...... its in this playlist , moan jam is a great example of his tone..... almost on a level like blacky .... similar but obviusly not as hardcore and brutal... two of my fave bassists... black and dug pinnick....
here ya go th-cam.com/play/PLGxJ1BtjLSUlfXbABgbvrqTa4yjTTOmHz.html
Hey Owen quick thought, where do you think A. The overground in music is headed and
B. Where the underground is headed
I don't even know what is next, underground has hit a wall for the most part and keeps running itself in the ground, and the overground is getting terrible even for the people who like the stuff. So I don't know, what do you think. Do a video on this if you think it would make for an entertaining discussion
I talk about what I think of the current scene and what I think can fix it here: th-cam.com/video/YCoqAjrGOo8/w-d-xo.html
BYWaudio
Have you seen this?
Yep. I mentioned it in the video. It's a long one though. I'll be demoing the pedals on the channel.
Speaker excursion is the issue when playing bass through guitar cabs.
They can handle the power, they can't drive the low frequencies properly.
How do you explain 9 string djent guitars? Modern speakers have an adequate amount of low freqs for recording bass. You can argue on most djent albums you can hardly hear the bass but the bass is there via the guitars.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Bass frequencies are an octave lower.
Look at the voice coil of a bass 12" compared to a guitar 12".
Much larger diameter, greater excursion.
You play a decent bass amp through them they don't last.
They also build up too much heat with an undersized voice coil.
the way he has put the strings on bass means his a guitarist...my god
It's a meme. I'm not allowed to cut my strings until 100 Patreons. I concider myself an much a bass player as a guitarist.
FUCK YEAH!!!
the real question is what was piggys magic tuning???
no magic tuning, all standard , only on negatron and phobos , there was a little different on a few songs and on Outer limits(7 strings tuned normally)
@@DanMongrain thanks dan! the rumor i always heard was it was a variation of new standard tuning, so thanks for setting the record straight!
@@robertgoyette5863 pleasure, Actually for the first 4 albums they used to tune standard but in 435 which is between 430 and 440...so it is not quite A nor Ab...but in between the piano cracks.
A 420 - only way a broke guitarist i played with could have decent intonation. I think it's actually over a semitone flat
I always put Blackie up at Cliff standard
Agreed. Top tier
Is there any particular reason you played the bass line to The Unknown knows incorrectly? Not trying to be critical just curious.
I wing most stuff I play.
CIRCLE OF TONE. Relatable
make a tutorial about these bands:
Dissection
Mayhem (De Mysteriis)
Mercyful Fate
💪🔥💯
TO THE DEATH!!!!!! Blacky was one of my inspirations when I used to play the fours back in the day! I used to spend hours listening to Killing Technology and Nothingface, trying to pick out the bass parts! Fuck me, I thought Rush was hard!!!! ~_~;;;;;
Do Mortician.
I want nay need that young ones t shirt, I'll trade you my daily mirror book of facts
Haha
A VoiVod without Blacky & Piggy is not VoiVod.
I've certainly lost interest since.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Yeah, Piggy was just unique. No one can compose like he did. Broke my heart when he died. Felt like when Cliff Burton died.
morning
I prefer to play bass through a PA. Or some decent reference monitors.
The old punk way.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE True that. I've seen a few bands just play through a PA because they didn't have money for traditional backline. It sounds just fine if it's set up properly. It works especially well for bass.
There is only one solution. We must eat them one by one.
Djented
If a motorbike could sing... !!!
Perfect.
Sign on for a dollar, then cancel. Hahahahaha, if shit wasn’t so tight...
No prob man! Just watching the channel helps out.
Nice tone but that bassline to "The Unknown Knows" is completely wrong dude.
Yeah I was just playing in the style of. I play practically everything wrong on all of my vids.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE haha fair enough dude!
just plate them string in gold
Seems to me he copied Lemmy using Marshall heads...hands up, who likes me..? Lol