How the rift between Ray Allen and the Celtics got so big
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Rajon Rondo has confirmed that the Celtics are leaving Ray Allen out of their 10-year championship vacation this summer, which prompted me to want to tell the full story of how the rift started between Ray and the Celtics in the first place. Enjoy!
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![[FULL] Ray Allen on leaving the Celtics, missing Paul Pierce’s ceremony & KG snub | First Take](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-IQxIl1L328/mqdefault.jpg)
If I was Ray Allen I would have left as well, they mad cause he won a ring with miami, Boston management made it clear they didn't want him there by trying to keep trading him.
keith bailey True
same
I agree
keith bailey no they were mad he abandoned them for a team that just beat them. The ring just made it worse.
@@oshura2506 so they are salty bitches ? miami is basically tax free, had an amazing team, and good weather, it was the perfect exit for his career after the celtics made quite clear he wasn't that important to them. if his so called "brothers" couldn't and still don't get that it's on them.
It worked out for Ray Allen. He got another ring and was a huge contributor.
Allen Rhea saves lebron a career
He made the most clutch on ive seen in NBA history outside of maybe Kawhi game 7 buzzer beater at the playoffs.
@@Tigerjuhhh ray's shot was in the finals so it was more clutch
Haters both pp n kg ray ray did what was best 4 him n his career at the time and Paul really tripping he couldn't hold dee wades jock strap let alone the king s ran him out of cle that s why kg went to net's with Paul right I guess shack ran kg out of Minnesota
@@anthonywatley3036 English my man, do you speak it?
Ray should call up the former Miami players and have a 5 year championship reunion just to piss off Rondo Lmao.
victor gentry LBJ would make an every year party for Ray, if he have a time he can make it everyday for what Ray did.. LMAO
shit wouldnt be too hard, all of them damn near still live in south Florida, Wade included.
He should.
Hail Jesus Shuttleworth!
victor gentry LMAO that would be funny and I hate the Heat team 😂😂😂😂
and send invites to the celtics as well lol
that's really childish of them...let by gone be by gones, they won a championship together, and Ray Allen was a huge piece of that, just because he made a decision based on his career does not mean he should just be left out celebrating what they did together. At the very least, invite him because he may decline anyways.
A year later and I'm the only that agrees to this 💯🤦🏽♂️
Although I do partially agree, you also have to consider that they created a very strong bond in Boston. They were together everyday and were just a family. They expected to be treated back as they were family. I feel though that there is something that none of them are telling us, cause it does seem a bit fishy
yuch1102 .What you guys need to understand is Ray also had a sick child and the best doctors for his child was in Miami but the fuck niggas won’t say that.
LeBron Would've Said Fuck You Assholes You Treat Your King Like Shit I Ain't Going
LeBron Would've Said Fuck You Assholes You Treat Your King Like Shit I Ain't Going
the way rondos personality is, I wouldn't be surprised if he thought he carried that championship Celtics team
I think he actually said he was the part of the big three with garnet and pierce.But dont quote me on that
Jacob Knighten rondo kept Boston competitive longer than they should have a walking triple double an all NBA defense selection he was a top 3 pg until teared his acl that was when his career ended
Arturas Višniauskis No he said I always thought of us as the Big 4
Alex Mena rondo literally said in an interview that he hadn't played defence in years, while he was still a Celtic, he got steals sure, but he was a stat junky, he would go for steals when he shouldn't gamble. I can tell u as a bulls fan he does it all the time
Jacob Knighten ur clearly 7 years old if u don't remember how good Rondo was.
Tbh Ray Allen is one of my favorite NBA players it's hard to call him a snake or a traitor
chandler st cloud st cloud chandler they snaked him tbh by trying to trade him
chandler st cloud st cloud chandler not my favorite but I liked to see him play especially back when he was on the Supersonics with R. Lewis.
How _could_ he be a traitor - even hypothetically - if he's getting disrespected left right and centre?
Hector Andem first he is a traitor and America is the best country so its spelled center
That's what people said about KD. Doesn't change the fact that he's a traitor, does it?
finally someone made a clip with the rational and TRUE reasoning. too many Celts fans refer to Ray as a traitor as if Ray was some long time Celtic. Ray was ran out of Boston and the seeds were planted very early, long before he actually did depart.
What stings Boston fans the most is not only did he go to Miami. Not only did he win a chip in Miami. But his signature career moment happened in Miami.
I'm a Celtic fan and never had any bad feelings toward Ray. The celtics were an ageing team whose run was over. Also he wasn't all that wanted by management
I personally enjoyed seeing the throwback 2005 SuperSonic 1-2 punch of Allen and Lewis getting their rings in Miami.
I can't believe this. I understand Kg and Paul were upset of Allen going to the Heat because he is playing for the enemy. also, allen had to right to leave and doesn't owe KG and Pierce anything. He did his job.
I agree with you. He did his part
terrell hubbard No ray no ring and its different than KD cuz Ray was close to the end had bad ankles and Boston clearly didnt want him Miami needed him and they wouldnt have won without him he saved Lebrons career.
Shady Boy
Without Rondo they wouldnt win 08
@@greatomeister675 BIG 3. What has Rondo done since ? 3 people drawing double teams
I think for me and a lot of people it wasn't the fact that kd left , it was more about where he went
Should’ve went home to Washington with Beal and Wall, would’ve dominated the East
Had he went to say, the Spurs, there wouldn't be as much of a negative reaction. Some Thunder fans would be mad, but it would be nowhere near the level of hate he got for going to the Warriors.
If you disrespect a player by keep trying to trade him. Ray just moved on. I m not mad at him. Two Championship is the results
💯💯💯Truth be Told💯💯💯
I think it was because he joined a team that went 73-9. It was about the mentality of joining that team. Taking the easy path. It was unlike Lebron, Wade, and Bosh making a team or Ray, Truth, and KG. He could've gone anywhere not CLE or GSW. He could've formed a team with any star (Kawhi, PG, Beal and Wall etc.)
IMHO Ray Allen is a great player and person I met him when I lived in Milwaukee... he got out of his SUV to help me get unstuck from the snow..
Romero R r/thathappened
wow thats awesome. Thats a down to earth person right there!
Milwaukee still loves ray Allen, Glen Robinson, and Sam Cassell
Ray Allen understood he was dealing with snakes and bounced on the Celtics.
#goodnight
No Ray No Ring
Jaden Triolo True for Boston and Miami
umlbp Miama has Ray Allen in 2014
Rondo wasn't fucking important lol
thegoldenhero you probably didn’t watch the Celtics is 2008 then
let's just say it wasn't no damn big 4 lol
I hope Brian Scalabrine was invited
Leensanity2k He's still with the Celtics organization, of course he is.
WTF you mean? the 10 year anniversary cake is in the shape of Scal's face
Leensanity2k Brian is the party
Brian Scalabrine is a one man big 3!!
GOAT Mcgee he didn't go though . the goat stays mutual
This story just made his 3-point shot in the Final vs the Spur even that more meaningful.
At the end of it all, Ray Allen has 2 rings compared to Pierce's and KG's one.
S6T6NS N6TION sealed it with a clutch 3
S6T6NS N6TION so what they still got rings
Dont sleep on Sam Cassell.. Hes got 3
They each would have 2 if Ray didnt go to the Heat 👀
Nick Solomon maybe they shouldn't have tried to trade every season and make him take pay cuts and give him shitty contracts. in return for his loyalty they treated him like shit. Then he did what's good for him and he's disloyal. i understand pierce and garnetts beef but no one else should care.
Man Dom2k doing big things even as a Celtics fan... thats why I ain't mad bruh! keep it up #Dom2kGOAT
Where were you last video. Didn't see any comment from you
They were seriously gonna trade ya boy for OJ Mayo? Ultimate sign of disrespect.
Kevin Garnett said he wouldn't have gone to Celtics until he found out Ray Allen was also going. Then 2yrs later trying to trade him . Kg got hurt during the run he wasn't the same player either. They weren't treating him like that
The damn franchise is very disrespectful of players...and they even have the worst medical staff. Look at Bird, McHale's injury hell from the late 80s-early 90s -- you'll find everything from nails driven into feet to constant back surgeries. Disrespectful in that they benched great players and let politics run the show...how can a bum like Rondo act alpha when clearly his over-rated skills cannot match to Ray Allen's? So damn stupid this franchise is.
I still support ray Allen like if you do
Dion J11000 fuck yeah sugar ray all the way all day
One of the best SG of all time
DJH 11000 you're a miami fan....
Always been a fan since he played at uconn. I lived right up the street from the uconn campus I would see him at parties all the time. Cool ass dude real down to earth.
Nigga you're a Heat fan of course you're gonna say that 😂
Without Ray Allen they don't win the Championship he should have got invited Idc if he left get over it
KE TV Agreed.
Celtics wouldn't have won the championship without a lot of guys that year. We really got out of the playoffs by the skin of our teeth. I'm not sure there is another championship team out there that won it all without winning a road game until Round 3. If we didn't have Sam Cassell and PJ Brown that year we probably wouldn't have even won. Rajon Rondo was a massive part of that team. The 2008 Celtics were an incredible team effort and it's sad that 10 years later everyone is being reduced to 'who individually was more importantant'
TRJ2241987 bruh I feel you but Ray was the third leading shooter
TRJ2241987 True but Ray was hitting crazy daggers, I seen a lot of jealousy with Pierce and Ray......Pierce was one of my favorites until KG got there with fucked up mentality
Easy to say that from the outside looking in. You're not a big man for loyalty it seems.
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This is pretty classless since Ray Allen contributed more than Rondo and yet he's invited...
DeMar DeRozan Rondo is hosting it I think
for real. take ray allen out of that team and they wouldn't win it. he was having 50 pt games in the play offs!!
@@devvv4616 nah, 51 points was 2009 where KG was out. But in 2008 finals, ray allen averaged 20 points at 50% FG 52% 3 pt FG, 5 rebounds, 2.5 assists and 1.3 steals per game, best player on the court.
Debatable
If They Did The Same Thing To Kobe Kobe Would've Gone Nuts
I met Ray Allen too and he signed a basketball for me. He’s a nice guy.
Ray Allen helped them win and they're backstabbing him
Except Ray Allen backstabbed them
I'm fine with the fact that he left he had ever right to leave its just who he left to that pisses me off
Ezra77 his teammates ran him off, maybe if they didn't act like that he wouldn't have went to Miami lol
+Amie Riddles
It wasn't his teammates, it was management.
ray was saying fuck you to boston
Ray was no longer a star, he was just a solid role player filling a hole with the heat (perimeter shooter lul) and he filled it perfectly. Complete opposite with kd, being the 2nd best player in the nba losing (choking) a 3-1 lead to the best team and then joining them. Not even remotely close
John Pange ray could have easily averaged 19 ppg as a starter if he didn't go to the heat even at that age
Heso Melo Jello if you watched the video, the celtics didn't give ray allen the role that he wanted offensively. Out of the big three he shot the less shots so that combined with the role he had, he couldn't of averaged 19 points.
James Lanziao Lebronthe best player gtfo
John Pange you're kind of right but ray is a star. everyone wanted him when he left the heats.
James Lanziao umm... so who was the first?
After reading Ray's book everything you said was spot on and unbiased. Nice work and well researched since you made this video before the book came out!
Great didn't know all this, Truly a Celtics fan since the early 1960's. like you didn't like Ray going to Miami, but totally understand.
Great video! I never knew some of these trade offers made for Ray Allen. Just goes to show a lot of things happen that most people don't know about that can explain some of the feelings.
Can't blame Ray for anything he did. He still had greatness left in his tank and the Celtics didn't respect that.
I'm on Ray's side, how you gonna be in every trade rumor since you've basically been on the team and then when you decide to leave now everybody's trippin saying "he left us, he left us" you CLEARLY didn't want him that bad anyways lol
Bet money that if Boston would have beaten the Heat they would have said nothing, sore losing asses! lmao
(Laker Fan BTW)
Mr. Martin Umm management didn’t want him doesn’t mean his teammates didn’t. They have every right to dislike him
bojo perez bruh do you not know how basketball works? Management screws over players and goes over their heads all the time
bojo perez bruh they got traded a few years later
@@oshura2506 KG and Paul didn’t say shit about the whole trade thing while he was there....so his”teammates saying something”?....get that shit out of here
Ray Allen was 37 you cant compare it to prime durant
Ofcourse you can't, 1 of the greatest shooters of all-time and a future HOFer vs a regular season star.
jermaineonealnumber7 so KD ain't HOF before he went to the bay?C'mon y'all bias when it comes to that kinda shit
ThatBoiDre or to be prime curry
The only 37 year old that was still elite is MJ
Look how bad rondo got now since he doesn't have the big 3. He still can't shoot a jumper and barely free throws, the fact he is in the league still is surprising
Fururur 1 You know he did torn his ACL right
Eric Escibedi So a torn acl is gonna stop you from having a jumper
Fururur 1 Rondo was considered a top 5 PG in the league in his prime and helped kept the Celtics as title contenders when KG, Ray, and Pierre were all aging. He dropped 40+ points against the Heat big 3 in the playoffs. He could had won Finals MVP if the Celtics won it all in 2010. His challenges of injuries and his very high basketball I.Q ruined his career.
Eric Escibedi And westbrook has had injuries it's not stopping him
Eric Escibedi Just look when he went to the mavs he gave up on his teammates, the fact people are still signing him is surprising all he can do on offense is pass your basically playing 4v5 the entire time on offense
when you listen to ray talk about it it's difficult not to agree with him, the guy comes across so well
Rays situation is more comparable to Dwyane Wades decision to leave the Heat
Ben Twilleager Wade did not join the team that beat him in the playoffs. It's not that ray allen left, it's the fact he went to the team that beat him.
The "sign the contract if you really want to stay here" portion is extremely similar. They both got backstabbed by the front offices.
I've been saying all this forever! Great vid. This needed light shed on it to put things in perspective
Damn... the Celtics beat the Lakers 10 years ago. I'm getting old lol
I'm Alex I remember being a 4yr old watching the Celtics thrash the Lakers
BiasedRocketsFan 34 then you became 6 and watched the Lakers beat the Celtics in game 7.
@@VictorELayne77 Yes, with KD injured and everyone aging.
Luka is overrated
The difference is celtics weren't gonna win a championship kd choked when he was 1 game from beating the gsw
Joseph Roth they were all past their prime and got unlucky with a garnett injury it definitely wasn't a disappointment
Joseph Roth ain't no disappointment they proved doubters wrong every year saying they getting older but injuries stole a 3 peat
gurveer chahal they just lost a 7 game series to Miami wtf
gurveer chahal they where one game away from the finals twice, one of them games being on their home court?
Also, I doubt OKC treated KD like Boston disrespected Ray Allen.
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I'm a Celtics fan. I'm glad that we all take Ray Allens side on this. He was actually the only homegrown star on that team thru UConn (New England)
Wtf? How u gonna have a trip with the big 3 and not have ray Allen? Rondo u not even part of the 3 wit yo nut head boy
Hi Yes it became a big 4 in the later years, rondo really carried them
Hi Yes rondo didn't carry them 😂😂
Lewis Anderson exactly😂😂
Hi Yes my bad bruh i was trynna tell the other dude that. rondo aint shxt lol.
Lewis Anderson u good G I knew what u meant lol
One of doms best videos, I always come back to watch it every 6 months
Another good video man. I didn't know the details about this story at all.
When I leave a job I don't talk to my ex co workers
But do they hate you and consider you a traitor? You don't know because you don't talk to them but I doubt it. They probably think you did what was best for you like adults.
But you didn't spend your life with them like athletes do, practicing together, having a friendship outside of your workplace...
@@thomaslequesne5475 right 12 hours a day sometimes 7 days a week yearlong no off season you tell me
@@michaelgray1803 I don't know where you work, but in most places you don't develop a great relationship with your co-workers outside of work. To be a successful basketball team, you need to know what the others will do and fully trust them to make the shot or the right decision in crucial moments. Also when a player gets traded he doesn't know the city nor anyone living there outside of his teammates and the staff.
Again, where you worked may be different, but in most cases your work doesn't depend as much on the other's work, and their career decisions don't impact yours.
@@thomaslequesne5475 at work.
Wow this video was amazing how he explained it without being biased towards his team
Luv to c a video where the narrator isn't biased and just call it how it is. Great video
This is the first of your videos that I've seen and after watching the whole thing I'm definitely going to subscribe to your channel. You present your side of the story and facts in a very cool, calm, and collected way. You don't go to fast or let your emotions get the better of you and just present your video. I like that. You don't need to get all excited and start yelling and cussing and dropping F bombs everywhere. Thank you for that. Very enjoyable and I will be subscribing. You just earned another follower. Right on man!! 😎😎
The Celtics should have done better to keep Ray! They were disrespectful! I’m glad Ray was able to shine with The Heat and get a ring! I do hope the guys can work something out. Shaq and Koby are cool now these guys should work it out. The fact that Rondo questioned if he should invite Ray tells me that he knows Ray should be there! Thanks for sharing! Great visuals and commentary! Peace and Blessings to all!
The NBA is a business but the Celtics could have handled that better.
Awesome video, very informative and it changes the way that I now see Ray (Benedict) Allen....
Great video. I grew up with this team and Rondo was my fav player (I was 6-8 so allow me) and it's fun to see the celtics rebound
Rondo's personality doesn't mix well anywhere you need a strong coaching staff to be successful with him.
Without Ray Allen, Ray Allen doesn't win his ring.
FACTS
Ray Allen helped them win and there backstabbing him
Ray Allen carried that Team. 1st Championship Run
He Deserves that Finals MVP!
Great video! Looking forward to your journey to the best sports commentator!
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I agree I would put MDJ in there too
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good to know rondo still appreciates his time in Boston, one of my favorite teams of all time, glad I went to HS when that team was around
Thank you! Finally another celtics fan who actually understands The Whole situation! You explained it great too.
8:29 everyone is clapping for Ray Allen except Paul...
Remember the celtics tried trading ray multiple times. KG/rondo never criticize the celtics front office for this. They only go after ray. And somehow rondo/KG believe they had the right to tell ray allen which team he could sign with, which is beyond ridiculous. Ray took less money, they tried to trade em multiple times, then cut him out of the offense, but it's all his fault right? And a reunion tour for a team that won 1 ring? Please. Garnett was behind the entire don't invite ray thing, rondo was only the mouthpiece.
KG still mad at Marbury for leaving Minnesota
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I can see it from both sides. For the celtics and the fans, obviously it hurts seeing a player go to a rival team, especially the two teams that probably had the most fierce one at the time. But at the same time, Allen was getting pushed out by the management and Rondo. I mean look where Rondo is now, he had no authority. Plus Ray was on the tail end of his career. It'd be like someone like Iggy going to Cleveland
Y'all are trippin or someone like Andrew Bogut.
Numbr81 exactly lol
It's not like he joined the lakers....
"like Iggy going to Cleveland..." pretty Much Richard Jefferson
Cleveland and GS weren't rivals when RJ was on the Warriors
Ray allen hands down best shooter 🔫🔫🔫
zach j curry
+jazz lawson would take ray over curry, he abit better in my opinion
how? why?
This is a disgrace to Scalabrine
zach j I'm a Cavs fan but, come on man, the greatest shooter ever is Steph and it's not even close.
Big Celtic fan, even when there not winning. Ray you aiding in the huge turn around and definitively aided in the banner. I was a big Ray Allen fan every where you went. I always was hoping you come to play for the Celtics, and was sad to see you go. I do understand the business end and it sucks. Still a big fan and Congrats to the Hall of Fame!
I am on the same page as you man, went through all the same phases. But RAy was my favourite player in the NBA since he came in the NBA, along with Iverson, so i got over it after 1 or 2 seasons. But it took time. And I never really love the Heat. It hurt a lot though cuz I had never supported a franchise like the BIG 3 '08 celtics (i'm from France btw) so it hurt to see them break up, but i'd heard several times about the trades and trade rumors so I understand Ray. Plus the man isn't social, he has slight OCD so the fact he didn't interact as much off the court with teammates wasn't news to anyone in the NBA and not personal to C's. He was the same everywhere. Would love to see Ray on the Area 21 someday. Would be an epic moment.
Obvious jealousy because Ray got that extra ring.. and his ring with Miami is more memorable because of the shot... Rondo ruins every team he is on.
jealousy? they hated him before he won another ring
Waybron Anthony meh..better be hated and famous than commeting in youtube
Waybron Anthony yup
HIs ring in Boston was more memorable he was going at it with Kobe Bryant in a Celtic vs Laker rivalry.
he left because he had too... if you guys are in his shoes being the trade bait 3 times when he's part of the big 3, how would you feel? only the man can understand that and he has the right to decide for himself none of us fcking deserves to judge him
lmao, Rondo is acting like he was part of the big 3 😂😂 Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and The Truth Pierce. That there is the real big three! hold this L rondo. get off your high horse and show some respect
Phi Tang Rondo was good af
Amie Riddles yeah I he was but his attitude did not justify his performance
***** Ikr if the dude wasnt such a hothead he could be a PG on a championship team again
Yes I can definitely agree with you on that!
Phi Tang rondo was big 4 in 2011
Good video dom 🔥💯
Mad vibes at the beginning🔥🔥
Rondo cant be talking when he is playing with Lebron James on the Lakers.
Fuck rondo, he went to a rival team ! Not Ray
When I heard the beef between Rondo and Allen, I sticked to Allen. After all, can't turn ur back on jesus...😎
Allen 2
Rondo 1
Rondo might get one this year
Ray should’ve won the Finals MVP back then. He was playing out of his mind that season, playoffs and made the biggest plays that Finals.
thank god for you spreading awareness.
rondo's just mad cuz ray has double his rings
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@@ghostrider1827 2 Players doesnt mean an automatic championship.
Rondo might catch up to him this year
LeBron better get the 2012 Heat 5 year anniversary now
The Human Durag Flap #STEELERSSUPERBOWL51CHAMPS lol
shit wouldnt be too hard, all of them damn near still live in south Florida, Wade included.
@@mrsain19 doesnt lebron live in california now?
@ by point is the rest of the 2012 team is still in the south Florida area. The only one that isnt, is lebron.
Just subscribed! Great video
Good video man
Muck Rabbit Thanks!
8:32 Pierce’s jealous. Lol
This is s damn good channel.
Ray Allen left a declining big-3 in Boston, while he was declining in order to be a role player on a superteam
KD left a prime OKC, while he was in his prime, to join a "superteam" and form a big-4 with the team that narrowly beat him and he was so close to beating them, he had 3 chances to get 1 win and he just left them.
Great clip, as usual, "Dom 2k!" It's ironic that KG, Perkins, Rondo, Davis, Pierce and Doc just discussed the Ray Allen rift in "Area 21" a few days ago. If I was fortunate enough to be in the Celtics' club, or NBA family, I wouldn't publicly discuss any dirty laundry. This whole issue could have been handled with less drama and more professionalism. Airing the matter on national TV serves no good purpose and just adds to strain and hurt feelings. Keep up the videos.
"Wassup NBA fans, Dom2k on the mic" I get excited every time he does his introduction lol
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S/O DOM2K! The video was thorough and answered afew questions I had about the Big Three. IMO Celtics Brass didn't have to include Ray Allen in a package deal with Rajon Rondo to be traded to another team. Rondo was the problem and to avoid paying Allen Celtics Management tried to get rid of him as well. The way I see it, Ray Allen was mistreated and he took matters into his own hands. If I was in his position I would've walked the same way. If Paul Pierce was really concerned about his teammate leaving he could've talked to management in the organization. Truthfully,I think Kevin Garnett was salty because of how Allen left. Eiher way Ray Allen is an NBA World Champion with Boston and Miami.
this clip made me subscribe
All those trades would've been trash for Boston. Hard to believe Ainge would've actually pulled the trigger on any of those deals.
BJ the GOAT Penn At the time it looked like Mayo was gonna be good.
but in the end, yeah these would've been bad
+Dom2k true and that was the one actual trade rumor that we know about w/Ray that was definitely legit. Hind sight is 20/20 tho. But my bad you were right about that one. As a fellow Cs fan I got to say it sucks that there is still bad blood between these guys. Leave the bullshit in the past.
Son pls make a video on the forgotten stars of the 80's the legends banished into irrelevance but the celtics,lakers,and bad boys the stars like Bernard king,Alex English,and Sidney moncrief need to be talked about their stories need to be told
nuklatska hurtarnimu litterally had no idea until sidney moncreif was until i saw him in 2k
nuklatska hurtarnimu I know Bernard and Alex. Who is Sidney?
The Average LeBron Fan you're using the internet look him up dumb shit.
The Average LeBron Fan he's a SG that used to play for the Milwaukee Bucks. He's often considered one of the best perimeter defenders of all time
+The Average LeBron Fan nothing, just a two-time DPOY
Stumbled upon this video and it's great. Just wonder what exactly happened between Rondo and Celtics management that made them want to trade him in a package a couple of times.
Probably the same thing that happens with him and any management. The guy is uncoachable
Dom2K - thanks for this video. I never quite understood the background of Ray Allen's move to the Free Agency/Heat until now.
If you look at this as a business, I do not blame Allen for leaving for the Heat. I thought (immediately) that this would stretch defenses and open up the Heat's offense. The mere threat of Ray Allen left alone for a "set-up three" is frightening enough.
I don't know why Pierce and Garnett can't understand. The latter left Minnesota to become a champion w/Pierce in Boston. R.R. was deceptively effective as a Point Guard, and; Ray Allen was actually the missing link (stretching the defense).
Good work product Dom. Namaste.
Out of the big 3 Ray Allen is my favorite.
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He should be able to go on that trip it is bullocks that he is not going on that trip they should grow up . They won a title together they are lucky to have won one
True Shit bro... Great content.. :) keep it up bro... Really like this channel :D
First of all, great video! Me personally I always felt like Rondo resented the fact that he always considered the "other guy" on the team during that period, but Rondo should understand that there's a reason for that! KG, PP and Ray were first ballot hall of famers even then, Rondo may never even sniff the hall of fame!
i thought rondo is the problem he had also issues with garnett and ray allen. ray just wanted to have peace before the games and in practice he had his ritual going
Ray Allen is one of my favorite players. I live in Dallas, my Mavs. Rondo has no credit in this state.
I would've listen if he said the world is round.
mesube22 so your saying your dumb? 😂
I'm a Celtics fan as well and After watching this video... Good on him for leaving! 👏🏼👌🏼
TOTALLY agree with this analysis.