Maeving RM1 Electric Motorcycle Review!
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id struggle to justify something like this over an electric bicycle for my needs, but I'm glad more companies are making good looking city ebikes like this
its slow af
Great looking bike! If it could do 60 MPH I’d be tempted. Price looks pretty good to me for the quality, and if I was young and needed to commute in London, I could see this working well.
The faster Maeving RM1S will be available from April 2024, the top speed will be 65mph. Deposits of £500 are being taken to reserve one, the list price of the RM1S will be £7495.
When you were young? At this price?
I think the RM1S is 75mph .. I have petrol bikes for that .. pure lightweight fun the RM1 is perfect
Gotta say I saw this at the show and its a really nice looking bike. Styling is spot on, the fit and finish are first class and talking to the co owner he was incredibly passionate about it. Only downside I can see is a grand for the battery seems a bit tasty. Can't imagine they cost exactly that to produce and maybe they'd be better passing them on at cost to get sales flowing
Or like in the old days of motoring where you always got a trade in value for your car battery.
What an excellent appraisal of this bike...informative, concise and a pleasure to watch. Many thanks.
By far the best looking e motorcycle. Hopefully in time they can develop more range and speed
The Maeving RM1 takes me back to being a child again, falling in love with my Grandad's old classic BSA and Norton cafe racers. Being a Brit living and working in the US, it would give me such a kick to cruise around Miami on a modern heritage bike designed & created in the UK. Maeving should be congratulated for sticking to such high levels of design attention and detailing, such a beautifully proportioned bike, it's stunning in my opinion. I truly hope you guys are successful in your engineering endeavors. P.S Can you ship one to me please 😉)
Now that's a nice looking Electric Motorcycle
You're better off getting an electric bicycle so you can ride on the bicycle lane while having the same range and nearly the same speed. Slow motorcycles make no sense on public roads where you have to be able to outperform cars to stay safe.
Makes perfect sense for me and my 25 mile commute to work on backroads. Not a problem at all and saves me £100 in fuel a week over using a car. It costs me about 9 a week to charge too.
@@wanderingman8147 4900 GBP for the Maeving, way less capable and more expensive than the better Ninja 400, Z400, Duke 390, RC390, Scram 411, Interceptor 650. But cheaper than the equally bad E-Cake.
And in case you did not notice electricity prices in Europe have risen by more than 30% making e-bikes and e-cars more expensive to drive/ride
@@wanderingman8147 Also you buy a 5k city only e-bike while with a ICE moto you could do a thousand mile trip. So you will buy an e-bike and an ICE moto to do what the ICE moto can do alone. So you give twice as much money for the same purpose (city/long trip). WoW how smart.
@@wanderingman8147 And in India the new Royal Enfield Hunter 350 costs 1.49 lakh less than 2000 GBP, has huge mpg and refills in less than 1 minute.
The Hunter 350 makes more sense than the Maeving.
Disagree, you can travel the world on a c90.
I have really enjoyed mine RM1 … often use that instead of my bigger petrol bikes …. It’s simply fun and very light ❤
Not something I would take out on a group ride, but perfect for a nice cruise to work and back. Really like the slick, clean design and the price is reasonable for what you're getting here.
Great concept and style, I hope this bike is a success 🇬🇧
Is a great first model for a new startup uk manufacturer.
Is not a bad price .You can pay that for a Ebike with a 15 mph top speed.
There 3 things it needs, fork gaiters, rack on the back and a centre stand.
Love the design for sure, but would it have killed them to put an 8kw or even 5kw motor for just a bit more pep?
Thank you for a great and honest review!
Very nice at a fairly decent price !
Good looking byke by all means
with much potential.
Brilliant ✨
Beautifully Designed ✨
This bike has my interest. With a range of up to 80 miles in dual battery configuration it is just about perfect for use in fast food deliveries as long as the right cargo options are there. While I wouldn't want to do long distances at 45mph, it is more than enough through town and the 3 - 6 miles delivery radius we work within.
Superb looking and well thought out for charging, an attractive proposition in a city but the 45mph limit does put me off if going on faster roads. I often felt vulnerable when not being able to keep up with traffic on a 125.
Love it, amazing Design and it can do 90% of my driving
I like the lines, range is definately the thorn in the foot.
Looks gorgeous, best looking ebike since l saw an Italjet Ascot in Barcelona. I can't even nitpick anything, metal is everywhere & the price is right. The issue is still range & speed though. I commuted for 4 years on a VanVan 125cc, 60mph & 2 weeks commuting took 1 recharge (fueling) for £8. £20 tax & l sold it for £400 more than l paid for it.
What l'd add is 2 loops under the seat so you could attach something like a canvas Carradice seat bag, they'd suit the bike perfectly & give good storage capacity.
Nice looking and perfect for city
Hope it does well in the market but crikey, the RM1 has a lower top speed than my 1976 Suzuki AP50 2-stroke. Is it really similar to a current day 125cc learner bike?
I am not the greatest fan of this all electric approach and throwing the baby out with the baths water approach, this is the first electric bike that I would buy. It is placed in the market correctly, beautifully designed, not over engineered and fantastic price. From an absolute petrol head, I would buy a Maenving.
I would love to get this as my first bike. Perfect for the city and suburbs where i live, but not worth it as it wouldn't manage even a short trip on A roads, which i use frequently to see family. Looks absolutely gorgeous though and hope they make a model that can go to 60mph, in which case I'd pick it up in an instant.
😄😄 I have seen pogp sticks with beefier rear springs. At first glance it looks a little strange but yeah it looks pretty good. I'd be open to trying one and if I was a commuter I would definitely give it look. I think MotoBob is on to something.
These are normal sized on bikes of this weight
beautiful design
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You mention that its not really designed to go off down country roads, but, If i chose to take it on a countryside/ trip to the seaside, could/would it handle the journey ok?
This is THE perfect motorcycle for the channel Islands. 25 to 40 mph speed limits.
Yeah it’s the perfect
Looking at the ‘Wired’ article on the bike, you can work out there is one good thing about this machine, which is it uses about 35Wh per mile. The other figures I am aware of is Tesla at about 250Wh per mile (pretty amazing really) as long as you don’t need to use the heater. Possibly, this would be lower some days, but higher others. Hyundai ionic is also way down there. But both those use regenerative braking. Now, I have heard a lot from bicycle (e-bike) and small motorcycle e-bike makers, that ‘it’s not worth it’ in essence, to do this on ebikes or small electric motorcycles. However, there ARE some ebike systems that DO have regen braking - and I met an older gentleman who informed me on this, up at Scammonden Reservoir, it’s just off the M62 between Yorkshire & Lancashire.
He had this ebike, and he got the model specifically to get regen braking, for efficiency, but then found it only kicked in, if you had the EXTRA battery. So he got the extra battery, and couldn’t be happier. Now, my opinion, as a non-ebike or motorcycle maker, is I don’t believe its not worth doing. I do believe, it’s more design effort and this Maeving has been made to get it to market without delaying too much for frills - I don’t criticise. They’ve kept their eye on getting the thing done, and it’s a professional job. It’s a sports moped with much more torque. We all had these 45mph tops, sports peds as young ‘uns and they were just about alright on the ‘A’ roads. One-up, okay. But that was when cars were SLOW.
So as many others say, this is a darn good shot at an electric bike. Just moves into motorcycle territory. The problem with ebikes etc, small EVs is the price of batteries is KILLING them. This uses 18650 cells, same as many Teslas, same as your laptop. They’re too small, and everyone and their dog, is trying to buy them. The 4680 types that Tesla are on the verge of fitting to their cars, are the really good ones IMHO. Sort of mini-can of beans size. Maybe a stumpy Red-Bull can! This is much more like it. It’s fewer cells to manage. I reason that if a vehicle has a thousand cells, statistically, they MUST surely go wrong? Some of them. I think Quality Control must be onerous, and the management must be a big deal. I think with fewer, bigger cells, you’d actually notice if there was one faulty, apart from anything else.
So, this is a great shot at the use-case, and your use-case as demo’d in the video, is just about perfect for this. But you’ll need two chargers minimum, one at home and one at work, OR carry the charger around, because there’s no other way to charge these batteries except the pukka charger. there’s no on-board charging system, again, it’s to get the thing done. Again, not a criticism, but this is a machine that rewards non-experimentation with range!
I didn’t hear about heated handlebars? That, would be a hit for these sizes of battery packs. Speaking of which, it’s a grand a pop. Buy a second battery for this, and you increase the purchase price by almost 20%. It’s like that old joke about Skodas (the old horrible ones): how do you double the value of a Skoda? Ans: fill the petrol tank. Why is that not funny now. Oh I know, diesel fuel is almost £2 a gallon, and petrol/gasoline not far behind. FFS.
So, my 100cc 2-stroke Suzuki in 1980, I bought with money working part-time in a shop while still attending school, could zip away from lights, and do 65mph on the flat, and gave about (memory stretch) 75mpg and I certainly wasn’t trying. I fitted a little bullet fairing, and it could be forced to 70mph downhill. Let’s call it 60mph and managing 50mph in 4th gear up decent inclines. That, was fine. Safer, as many here commenting have alluded to.
So, my shortcomings are now pretty clear, for this compared to what I would take as a motorcycle, not an e-bike competitor. Heated grips, will soak energy, and I’d need them. Safety feature. If you don’t ride in winter, fine, you’ll be only using 35Wh per mile. I think, heated grips are 60w or something, minimum? Let’s call it 3Wh per mile for those. That’s ten percent more of an energy tax on those batteries per mile. I’d not get something that doesn’t have regen braking, and to be honest, that will need a front motor/generator to make that worthwhile. Because that’s where it’s easy to get the energy forced back in, at a high rate. The back, is just going to wear the rear tyre even worse. It wouldn’t make sense to have a dual-motor bike, and then only use the front one for regen braking but not motive power? I dunno, someone will have to do the sums.
But I do know, the entire big USP of any electric vehicle is recouping energy going downhill. Any day’s journey you undertake - took me a while to realise this - will almost definitely end the day with you back at the same altitude as you began. Even if you go to different places, higher up or lower down - one day, you come back home. Take all that set of journeys in the round, you ended up back at the same altitude. Therefore, recouping the uphill-used energy, when doing any journey, really, really, matters. It’s free energy. It’s the trick that no fossil-fuel burner can ever manage.
So in the world scheme, no, recouping 1,000Wh of energy on a 65-mile journey, is nothing. But to a little ebike with a maximum of 4kWh of battery capacity, it’s 25% of your expended energy back. The light weight, means if you look ahead, you won’t use the ‘actual’ brakes at all, except in emergency braking. I have an alternate view then, about the whole ‘not worth regen braking on a bike’ thing. I think it’s expensive to have two motors, and I think that is the future of motorcycles, because an electric motor, IS the brake, and IS the regen mechanism. I think the software, and the need to possibly integrate the regen with the actual braking, is the problem, and that’s cost. You can have MILD regen, and that wouldn’t need to be built-in to the braking system, but to have really good regen, it probably does.
It’s another step forward. I am not knocking it. I just know that I am not buying an EV 4-wheeler until I turn my home into a power station, at a cost of £15,000 minimum. It makes no economic sense otherwise. The energy cost crisis adn shortage of EVs that compete on price with fossil burners, seems to be driving up the cost of fossil burners. And, the cartel that exploits oil for profit, has proved better at keeping prices under control of gasoline, than the ‘watchdog’ in the UK for electricity! This is a mess. In that mess, I have stopped heading towards EVs and doubt it’s happening soon. This is a shame. We need governments to do more than make nice noises about what they’d do in 10 years or 20 years - when they’ll not be in power. Heck in the UK, the specific government cabinet, has lasted a record low of 44 days. They were in the position of making any promise they liked, it turned out!
Take care all, and thanks for the video, I’d never heard of this before.
'mild' regen braking is basically a money-and-work saving feature, because its not much mileage improved but much less wear on your brake pads. (done poorly, could be bad for batteries but I'm assuming intelligent application). for that alone, its worthwhile.
Love the design and affordability…
Excellent bike 👌
Looks really good - it will be a great idea when you can just pop in to a local shop and swap a near flat battery for a fully charged one.
Yeah right when we are still waiting for mobile phone manufacturers to standardise their charge ports. Not likely anytime soon to see standard shaped batteries either.
They ARE getting QUITE better!!
Lovely bike 💯
Yeah great looking bike and perfect for city riding. Price is good too, but £1000 more just for an extra battery seems excessive?
Great little runaround. Nice styling. No way would I leave it anywhere. It will probably be gone on your return.
Love it. Does it do Regen?
No regen, this would have increased the price
Where's tha 2 seater boys?? Have any recommendations for 2 seater ev motorcycle under 10k pounds sterling??
The styling is great, but it needs some storage options to carry stuff. I know, you can use a rucksack, but a rack or a tank bag that does not need to be magnetic would be very useful
The tank stores ten litres when you ride with one battery.
@@theodoredavies4079 but then it has a pathetic range
nicely presented ! but to "most equivalent" the Black Tea Bonfire jumps much more into my mind ! Have look there, the Black Tea is available as a 50 ccm and as a 125 ccm equivalent ! :-) But still, the Meaving is beautiful !! 🙂Tom
Bought a twin battery RM1, love it except harsh suspension.
Oh really ? What about range, charge times and general usability etc ?
So very cool! 😎
It looks absolutely amazing! If it could do 55mph and have a 45 mile range I'd be very, very tempted.... But I don't live in a big city, or have a difficult commute... So it would be a waste of money getting a bike like this.... I hope they do well though...
Flat out it goes more like 50 and again, flat out with both batteries it’ll do 50 miles at 50mph
@@wanderingman8147 Dualtron Thunder 2 e-scooter 10000w, 60mph, 100 mile range, 4200 USD/Euros.
@@wanderingman8147 4900 GBP for the Maeving, way less capable and more expensive than the better Ninja 400, Z400, Duke 390, RC390, Scram 411, Interceptor 650. But cheaper than the equally bad E-Cake.
And in case you did not notice electricity prices in Europe have risen by more than 30% making e-bikes and e-cars more expensive to drive/ride
My Canadian self is very jealous that this kind of thing is feasible and reasonable for a daily commute.
Wish this was available in the States
Smart bike 👍
Gee I wonder how one would handle the ever present battery fires?
Beautiful bike and I would like to have one. I ride my Zero SR/S Premium to work every day when the weather is suitable. I charge mine at home with a Tesla 48 AMP Charger and a Tesla Destination Charger at work. It's 35 miles both ways and a portion of my riding is on the Freeway at 70 to 75 MPH. I'm addicted to riding it and with all the free J1772 and Tesla Destination chargers everywhere it makes it easy and a pleasure to own.
Dualtron Thunder 2 e-scooter 10000w, 60mph, 100 mile range, 4200 USD/Euros.
Now that's exactly where electric bikes make sense. Well done to Maeving for finding that niche 👍
(Why did the lads chose a name that sounds Chinese thou?)
I saw the showroom of this while walking in London, I love the look which isn’t surprising as they said it was designed by Triumph engineers, but I just don’t see it. £6000 for the one battery option, just think what alternatives you can get with that which will do everything this bike does plus much more. I think it’s massively overpriced personally. And living in London myself you still don’t get away from the fact they’re trying to dissuade people from using personal transport, like parking charges, insurance etc. I think pedal or electric bikes are more the way, ignoring the fact they a fraction of the price. Nice concept though, I just don’t see it in my opinion, but I hope it works for them.
It is my understanding that hub drives have very little torque and tend to chew up spokes prematurely.
Can you buy those in America
A bit of a 'white elephant' really then; 45mph & 40 miles on a charge (I'm assuming not on maximum power mode?) I wouldn't touch it. It needs to do at least 60mph to make it a viable option for me...
Super soco is cheaper, has more range capability and higher speed. From 140km/60kmh to 70km/95kmh and middle of that performance when switched 140/60 in the neighborhood and traffic jams and 70/95 on common roads.
But gosh! Maeving is spectacularly looking bike! Everything i want my tc max to look like.
As a city commuter it makes sense but then so does an ebike.
The difference is this is legally allowed to keep up with traffic where as an ebike is limited to 15.5mph assisted legal or you can risk going illegal and get a faster one, this makes it safer imho.
An ebike has an important advantage in that it has unlimited range if you need it because you can pedal so you will never be stuck with a flat battery.
Biggest problem with both is security, highly likely to be stolen.
i love it
How do you stand with a licence?
I've passed my bike test do you need that to ride these bikes or can you ride them on your car licence?
Just need a cbt
Hmmm, looks good & the detachable batteries must be the way forward. But, but, but whats the advantage of this over an electric pushbike. It's a bit faster but offset the fact that you need insurance, protective gear etc. etc. to ride it, also you can't use all the little rat runs that the pushbikers use. What will be the resale value in a few years time when its been superseded by the better version? Finally, fuel prices are dropping (slightly) while electricity is going up ridiculous amounts, are EV's really cheaper to run?
I want one
Only in one color?
No use as a city bike without a top box and possibly panniers. You can take it shopping then!
keep up the good work ;)
Really good looking bike, the price is reasonable. The range and top speed are disappointing though and not enough to make me sell any of my ICE bikes. In town a scooter makes more sense due to its ease of use and practicality due to storage and weather protection. I live in a village and have to commute to town so sadly I cannot justify it. The power is not an issue, one of my bikes is the new day with only 9hp and it’s still fun to ride. The main problem is when you get in 125 territory it is hard to compete with ICE bikes as they are mega cheap to run and take only a minute to charge at the petrol station 😂. Would love to see, for a similar price, this same bike with better top speed and range so it is a competitive commuter. I don’t need a show piece I need a tool.
a typical 125 pretty much walks all over this - faster, more powerful , more range, cheaper to buy. Seems a bit hair shirt just for the "greenness" of it
Nice looking bike, only available in the UK at present. There are better electric motorcycles coming like the Switch eScrambler.
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P.s Great looooooking bike 🙏
Looks nice, but it’d be better if it goes 60-65mph and has longer range
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A little pricy but I love it. You dont need a full Motorcycle license to ride it and I am a novice so I have no interest in going over 40mph anyway. Its beautiful and looks like great fun.
That motorcycle still good then normal speed 25pmh
Why they make it into 120volt motorcycle and 120volt motorcycle that now can get top off
Looks like a great little commuter and its British. I understand that they are working on a more powerful version. I really hate the name.. they had a clean sheet of paper and they came up with 'Maeving'.
60-70 would have been perfect
If it was 3k less I might but at 7k? Not a chance
They really should have made this bike with 20 hp. Good enough for any road and yet is more economical than all this other overpowered e-bikes
love that e-bikes looking like old bikes but well, you should be careful when choosing a vehicle.
Because you never know when or where things from these new companies will break.
all great, but why just 45 mph? :(
The price of this thing :o. Like 5 yo nice sedan or station wagon.
Would prefer a longer seat.
Designed for entry level riders on a CBD, so you cant carry a passenger legally anyway
I’d be interested in your take on a Honda 125cc commuter bike that cost 6k would only do 45mph and had a range of 50 miles not to mention being put together with the cheapest brakes,suspension etc. “Who wouldn’t want one of these in their garage”, me, wouldn’t have one as a present.
My only complaint the seat is way too small
Not a lot of bike for that kind of money it will be lost in a couple of years when electric prices go down and quality goes up! It's slow, but it makes up for it by having a very short range and cheap Chinese parts! Looks great, though! 70mph with high torque and 150 mile range has to be the standard minimum to make these things workable. The second battery in the tank is superb 👌 👏. "Not going to replace a panigale"! It wouldn't replace a Royal Enfield Meteor 350, nor even a 125 of any type lol... What is the 0-60? Oh, it doesn't...
Always wondered what it would look like if you combined the Hovis delivery bike with a vaccuum cleaner.....Now I know.
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The bike looks great. However, it’s too slow for more rural area. By restricting the speed so much they have reduced their possible market share by a huge amount.
I don’t agree, it goes close to 50 flat out and i commute daily on mine 25 miles each way, its great and saves me £100 a week fuel, costs about £13 to charge each week
@@wanderingman8147 4900 GBP for the Maeving, way less capable and more expensive than the better Ninja 400, Z400, Duke 390, RC390, Scram 411, Interceptor 650. But cheaper than the equally bad E-Cake.
And in case you did not notice electricity prices in Europe have risen by more than 30% making e-bikes and e-cars more expensive to drive/ride
@@wanderingman8147 Congratulations on owning such a beautiful machine. 👍. On a personal level it needs to have a higher top speed. I have a Seat Mo which has a top speed of 60 (perfect for me). If the Meaving had similar performance to my Seat, then it would have been my first choice machine.
Here in LA costs 8000 usd too much. If im gonna pay that much rather get a fast motorbike so i can be safe
Hello ! English do a beautiful EV ! Anyone tried to change this (Bad) seat ? merci
Really needs a long seat so you have the room for saddlebags or a strap down tail bag. Nice otherwise!
If I had a commute that only took in roads up to 40 MPH, yeah I could be interested. Does look nice from the pictures.
The major issue it has is a posh 125cc petrol bike from one the big 4 japanese manufacturers still costs less than the 80 mile range version, it would have a much better top speed (around 70mph), and huge range (300 miles). Fuel consumption at 120+ MPG isn't massively expensive. So it would need for the Mayor of London to start putting pollution charges on modern 125s to make getting an electric commuter bike really the only option.
Seems more like an E-bike in fancy dress. Nice looking but for that money I'd have a 350 RE.
It's just priced up e bike(without the perks) that looks like a motorbike but slower
What I love about my electric cafe bike is that I can buy batteries online if needed even if the company I bought it from died. Can I do that with this? Nope
Why oh why do promotions on electric vehicles only mention range and speed. I have owned an electric pedal cycle for over 10 years but had to buy a new battery recently at several hundred pounds, at that with this model only providing pedal assist power not relying on the battery for generating all the power for the journey. To me battery life is the single most issue that would prevent me even considering one. Petrol bikes are running well 30, 40 + years without the power source needing replacement. Promoting electric is all a cash cow con like the latest cell phones are and the very definition of built in obsolescence. Long live the petrolhead bikers.
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Only if it was sold in Canada rip
so its a better looking moped, its too slow even for city, if it was in 125cc bike performance range it would be ok, at least here people could ride it on car license. Id rather get some surron type dirt bike/emtb thing
Another city option. Prefer my Kymco 300 Agility scooter.