actually, there was a time, when people ask about painting which brushes, paints were used. in the renaissance time, when all the painters meet and show off their paintings in galleries and discussing new toys, brushes, oil mixtures etc. Rembrandt went there, "you talentless fools, lets see if you can do this with fancy brushes and oils" the walk over to emty canvas and draw a circle "copy this ! if you can". nobody could, because he draw an absolute perfect circle, freehand.
Of course, if it pertains to a specific technical reason. But in this context, this is referring to people who would ask what brush because they think they'll be able to paint just as well if they only just buy the same brush.
The point is, there's not the best one, but the proper one that suits better specific needs. And yes, starting from the usability question, certainly there is a better tool, for instance Corona. It is slow but super simple, making user life so much easier.
That's what I did lol. Found a few articles on vfx world. I wanted to know what rendering software they used for Kingdom of the crystal skull (horrible movie but great vfx in my opinion) and Maleficent. They both used katana for lighting and renderman for rendering.
As someone coming from an Adobe background and eventually moving onto the 3D i found rendering a course in itself... I warn all my fellow 2D animation advocates about the joy of rendering when heading into the 3D world... hahha...
Im a total beginner in 3D, i've been googling "best render engine" all night hahah This is the video i needed, i'll just focus on creating the thing i want to create :D
After watching your explanation style i am definately gonna smash the subdivide button. I am so pleased after watching your explanation. I really liked the way you explained with examples and points :)
haha I actually watched late night render talks twice already trying to soak in all the info. Worth adding that render engines develop so fast that any opinion merely represents a single point in time but things may change just a week after that. (Octane developed 3 generations within one year)
In think a big point is the community and the amount of tutorials. Every time, when i try to search a solution for a c4d problem, the first few hits are octane tuts. Actually im trying to get into arnold. I really like the engine, but honestly ithink about switching because there are not that much tuts and information out there (or havent found that much so far).
This happens to photographers all the time sadly. “Great shot man. What lens (or camera) did you use?” Musicians as well: “sounds great man. What plugins did you use?”. Etc. Human nature. :-/.
OCTANE for close-ups, REDSHIFT for scenery. Thats, at least, my experience. Very nice content by the way! I just discovered your channel! I'm planning to make videos about TV-Broadcasting and Motion Graphics here in Spain. Long time planning my image style in my videos. The thing is, i'm experimenting with different ways to add visual content to my "talking-head-style-video", and the question is: Are you using a greenscreen to add things to the background? Or """""simply""""" masking yourself? Keep on going man! You are posting great content!
Personally I use VRay since it has both GPU and CPU rendering and it can render Phoenix FD without problems. Personally I have found that Corona and some other render engines have problems rendering correct brushed metals, that may be settings, but in VRay I can do it :) - Octane and FStorm look interesting - I will try those out. People just need to decide, since building libraries in one render engine can take years of work to convert. Corona is also good for many things, personally I do not like it for animations.
Yes, and it did when this was published. For reference, refer to the other comments. It was purposely left out because Arnold GPU is still technically experimental and is not the same as Arnold CPU.
iiiidk, I tried V-Ray for my renders recently, and it just isn't able to do the things I want it to. I'm doing motion graphics, but it seems like V-ray is only good at interior renders. I had to switch to redshift, and it's infinity better and I get the results I'm after.
Great video, I applaud your efforts to reduce such a complex choice down to something beginners can understand. However I do feel the video might have been a little over simplified. I understand you can't include every detail or you'd end up with the "War and Peace" of render engine videos. I do think you should make a companion video that perhaps goes into a bit more detail and even talks to a few artists (no long interviews just sound bites) about their choice and why. Regardless, great work, keep it up :-)
Correct, however most Arnold people are still using CPU currently and use GPU for reference before switching back to CPU for render. Rather than get THAT detailed in this short video we went with the 30,000 foot view. Yes, technically you are correct. More in depth render talk can be seen on the video we reference at the end.
Hello I am an amd user , I want render enging depend on my gpu not my cpu what is redner engine I can use ? my graphic card is rx460 2gb my processor amd fx8120 I am now using corona render and as u said it depends on cpu not gpu I need render engine use my gpu
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Yes, as addressed in previous comments. It's fresh out of beta at best and still in its infancy. Most have said it's not quite ready for primetime. Most people use it for CPU capabilities.
In fact Octane for example has it's own colorspace sort of also already uses LUT out of the box also it's heavily unbiased so people who are looking for more realism might find Octane "better" + it's easier to setup. Redshift renders mostly gonna look like dogshit out of the box, but it's overall more flexible renderer. Technically Redshift is alot better so it's kinda better renderer overall. But Octane might suit some work a bit better so like it was said: None is best.
@@Mograph I quick Google Search to AMD's home page and it mentions that ProRender Engine is fully supported for blender 2.8x and most importantly 2.83 LTS. Now, I would like to add that I have not tried the proRender engine as I don't have an AMD GPU, but I was considering buying a laptop with one.
@@codemonster8443 I guess it is, but our advice would be to go Nvidia if you're getting into GPU render engines. I wouldn't put your bets on ProRender at this point. It's all Redshift and Octane for the most part in the industry at the moment. Arnold has a GPU option as well now.
Great video. Finally, someone cleaned up the rumor mess. Tools are tools and nothing less, it really comes down to personal preferences in terms of looks, speed and cost.
I do think that Arnold better then redshift because redshift isn’t really good at volumes or explosions with Arnold is great at I tried both Arnold is better for realism
A. I worked with Photoshop Jesus B. I’m trapped in the Mac OS ecosystem, so Arnold is my current love C. Keyshot is pretty good for product renders (CPU and GPU) D. Great vid 👍🏻
Very good video. When you know your software you can do great things, but I know it is easyer to think maybe a different renderer or a different program improves my work, instead of working on your actual techniques and knowing your tools better. Don´t get me wrong, I do it too lol
I disagree about the notion that the render engine doesn't make the image. It does in parts. If I rebuild the same scene with the same materials with the same lighting in 2 different render engines, they WILL look plenty different because every engine handles stuff differently. For example, if you try to compare Redshift to C4D physical you will almost certainly see a very, very noticeable difference. I love Octane for it's special "Octane Look" but I also love Redshift for it's flexibility and speed. I do understand why people ask that question. I've seen artists switch render engines and their artwork got either better or sometimes worse, at least to my eyes.
Yes, it does, but It was purposely left out because Arnold GPU is still technically experimental and is not the same as Arnold CPU. Just trying to simplify it a bit for this video rather than get into those technicalities.
Lies! my Schwarzenegger 4.0 TPU Render running on my Astalavista 6080Trex Cards ( with CCP acceleration ) , can do any subscarface Repressions 1.05 times faster than PinkSwing 4.0 (Millenium Edition ) running the same hardware... FACTS!
IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE! You're talking about a religion, you mention or Octane Jesus and goes out saying he has been trying a different cult? Are you nuts??? I would never fall for that... Octane forever.
adding a couple of GPU cards isnt going to make a big impact on getting lots of renders done. you need a GPU renderfarm - like 10 GPU cards... which costs even MORE than a CPU renderfarm.
You can definitely make an impact with GPU cards. If your render is 2:00 a frame with a GPU engine, adding another card will take it to 1:00 a frame. Going to 4 cards will make it :30 a frame. That's a pretty significant difference.
The best render engines are Patience and Hard Work.
if they use GPUs... maybe.
ah yes Arnold indeed
please post this on every CG/3D/Mograph community you know. I feel like 90% of the 3D render enthusiasts need to see this, and not just the newcomers
That person who turned an Excel spreadsheet into a render engine is the undisputed champion in any case.
actually, there was a time, when people ask about painting which brushes, paints were used. in the renaissance time, when all the painters meet and show off their paintings in galleries and discussing new toys, brushes, oil mixtures etc.
Rembrandt went there, "you talentless fools, lets see if you can do this with fancy brushes and oils" the walk over to emty canvas and draw a circle "copy this ! if you can".
nobody could, because he draw an absolute perfect circle, freehand.
nice video! wot renderrrrer did yu yuze?!?!
Hello Hassen Bhaai
Hello teacher!
Hello master😂
@@ranjithav3347 Hi bro, C4D user aano?
@@lcraft4574 yes
0:40 asking someone about which brushes he uses is actually legit.
Of course, if it pertains to a specific technical reason. But in this context, this is referring to people who would ask what brush because they think they'll be able to paint just as well if they only just buy the same brush.
Someone: Compares Arnold, Corona, Redshift and Octane.
Me(Pixar's Renderman User):
The point is, there's not the best one, but the proper one that suits better specific needs. And yes, starting from the usability question, certainly there is a better tool, for instance Corona. It is slow but super simple, making user life so much easier.
Renderwars = over | Winner = everyone 😆 Great Vid!
Thanks! We love you, Chad. :-)
Also I'd recommend asking a studio that you might want to work for what they use so they don't have to train you. But a lot of skills can transfer.
That's what I did lol. Found a few articles on vfx world. I wanted to know what rendering software they used for Kingdom of the crystal skull (horrible movie but great vfx in my opinion) and Maleficent. They both used katana for lighting and renderman for rendering.
Well I dropped VRay lately & switched to Arnold just because I want that extra supreme accuracy I just loved it.
Ok after your example , "nice painting what brush did you use" , i am not gonna ask this render engine question anymore 😂
Really insightful video! Hope a lot of folks get a chance to see this cuz it’s on point.
Whoaaa what render engine bro? Those background PC's look amazing!
Really well done and just what I needed to hear! Thank you!
As someone coming from an Adobe background and eventually moving onto the 3D i found rendering a course in itself... I warn all my fellow 2D animation advocates about the joy of rendering when heading into the 3D world... hahha...
This video looks amazing! What codec did you export to!?!
😂😂😂
Im a total beginner in 3D, i've been googling "best render engine" all night hahah
This is the video i needed, i'll just focus on creating the thing i want to create :D
Glad it helped!
After watching your explanation style i am definately gonna smash the subdivide button. I am so pleased after watching your explanation. I really liked the way you explained with examples and points :)
Awesome, thank you!
haha I actually watched late night render talks twice already trying to soak in all the info. Worth adding that render engines develop so fast that any opinion merely represents a single point in time but things may change just a week after that. (Octane developed 3 generations within one year)
In think a big point is the community and the amount of tutorials. Every time, when i try to search a solution for a c4d problem, the first few hits are octane tuts. Actually im trying to get into arnold. I really like the engine, but honestly ithink about switching because there are not that much tuts and information out there (or havent found that much so far).
🔥 🔥 🔥 what camera you used Adobe media encoder??
This happens to photographers all the time sadly. “Great shot man. What lens (or camera) did you use?” Musicians as well: “sounds great man. What plugins did you use?”. Etc. Human nature. :-/.
very lovely insights. Thanks for the detailing
Glad it was helpful!
Poor Cycles... didn't even get mentioned
OCTANE for close-ups, REDSHIFT for scenery. Thats, at least, my experience.
Very nice content by the way! I just discovered your channel!
I'm planning to make videos about TV-Broadcasting and Motion Graphics here in Spain. Long time planning my image style in my videos. The thing is, i'm experimenting with different ways to add visual content to my "talking-head-style-video", and the question is: Are you using a greenscreen to add things to the background? Or """""simply""""" masking yourself?
Keep on going man! You are posting great content!
Thanks! This video was green screen.
Oh man I died with "Octane Jesus" jahahahhaha. Amazing video!
Thanks!
The best answer for people who ask randomly !
Wow! This guy looks really realistic! The glasses look a little fake, but really good job on the beard. What renderer did they use??
😂😂😂
Mom's & Pap's
Personally I use VRay since it has both GPU and CPU rendering and it can render Phoenix FD without problems. Personally I have found that Corona and some other render engines have problems rendering correct brushed metals, that may be settings, but in VRay I can do it :) - Octane and FStorm look interesting - I will try those out. People just need to decide, since building libraries in one render engine can take years of work to convert. Corona is also good for many things, personally I do not like it for animations.
Unreal Engine 😉
Woopsy, Arnold has GPU now.
Yes, and it did when this was published. For reference, refer to the other comments. It was purposely left out because Arnold GPU is still technically experimental and is not the same as Arnold CPU.
Arnold is FREE now.................... nOOOOOOOOOT!
how about cycles? any opinions?
iiiidk, I tried V-Ray for my renders recently, and it just isn't able to do the things I want it to. I'm doing motion graphics, but it seems like V-ray is only good at interior renders. I had to switch to redshift, and it's infinity better and I get the results I'm after.
Im totally new to this, i think i try out corona... it changed my life once, why not twice LOL
Lol
Unreal Engine 5 😉
Great video, I applaud your efforts to reduce such a complex choice down to something beginners can understand. However I do feel the video might have been a little over simplified. I understand you can't include every detail or you'd end up with the "War and Peace" of render engine videos. I do think you should make a companion video that perhaps goes into a bit more detail and even talks to a few artists (no long interviews just sound bites) about their choice and why. Regardless, great work, keep it up :-)
Thanks! You should check out the video we mention at the end. Hopefully we can do a more in-depth video with sound bytes eventually.
Octane Jesus comes out in a rash if he touches another render engine......
Nice video! I use Arnold, its slow but its good!
great summary!
Like this video a lot. Just from an artist's point of view.
Thank you for this!
Glad it was helpful! :-)
Can you explain me which render engine for Amd GPU😅😅😅plzzzz because I am unfortunately amd GPU user 😭😭😭😭😭 I can't render properly
You'll have to use a CPU render engine or switch to an AMD card.
awesome video!
Thanks!
The faster, the better.
On. Point. USE THEM ALL.
i bet you cracked them all!
I like the format! This is the most useful contribution to the useless topic renderwars. Thx!
"what is the brush ?" Excellent :))
Sorry but the info about Arnold being CPU only, is not totally accurate. Arnold has GPU rendering too. You just have to enable it in the preferences.
Correct, however most Arnold people are still using CPU currently and use GPU for reference before switching back to CPU for render. Rather than get THAT detailed in this short video we went with the 30,000 foot view. Yes, technically you are correct. More in depth render talk can be seen on the video we reference at the end.
Hello
I am an amd user , I want render enging depend on my gpu not my cpu
what is redner engine I can use ?
my graphic card is rx460 2gb
my processor amd fx8120
I am now using corona render and as u said it depends on cpu not gpu
I need render engine use my gpu
Currently, I'm not sure if there are many options for AMD GPU rendering unless you're on the new Macs.
What did you use to render this?
After Effects
I really like renderman karma and Arnold
great tuto !!
Luxcore is the best for caustics and redshift for volumetrics ;)
good video givs me a lot of insaration.
Amazing! Could I translate the video and put it on a Chinese video website? I want more beginners to see it. I will put the youtube link on it.
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@@Mograph ok I see
But Arnold also uses gpu rendering
Yes, as addressed in previous comments. It's fresh out of beta at best and still in its infancy. Most have said it's not quite ready for primetime. Most people use it for CPU capabilities.
In fact Octane for example has it's own colorspace sort of also already uses LUT out of the box also it's heavily unbiased so people who are looking for more realism might find Octane "better" + it's easier to setup.
Redshift renders mostly gonna look like dogshit out of the box, but it's overall more flexible renderer.
Technically Redshift is alot better so it's kinda better renderer overall. But Octane might suit some work a bit better so like it was said: None is best.
Hey google! I asked if AMD prorender was good enough to consider Radeon over GTX!
Google? Is prorender still even supported? Most GPU render engines still lean toward the GTX side.
@@Mograph I quick Google Search to AMD's home page and it mentions that ProRender Engine is fully supported for blender 2.8x and most importantly 2.83 LTS.
Now, I would like to add that I have not tried the proRender engine as I don't have an AMD GPU, but I was considering buying a laptop with one.
@@codemonster8443 I guess it is, but our advice would be to go Nvidia if you're getting into GPU render engines. I wouldn't put your bets on ProRender at this point. It's all Redshift and Octane for the most part in the industry at the moment. Arnold has a GPU option as well now.
Great video. Finally, someone cleaned up the rumor mess. Tools are tools and nothing less, it really comes down to personal preferences in terms of looks, speed and cost.
I do think that Arnold better then redshift because redshift isn’t really good at volumes or explosions with Arnold is great at I tried both Arnold is better for realism
sure a great video agree with you
Thanks!
Well said!
A. I worked with Photoshop Jesus
B. I’m trapped in the Mac OS ecosystem, so Arnold is my current love
C. Keyshot is pretty good for product renders (CPU and GPU)
D. Great vid 👍🏻
Preach!
But Arnold is best though
Very good video. When you know your software you can do great things, but I know it is easyer to think maybe a different renderer or a different program improves my work, instead of working on your actual techniques and knowing your tools better. Don´t get me wrong, I do it too lol
I disagree about the notion that the render engine doesn't make the image. It does in parts. If I rebuild the same scene with the same materials with the same lighting in 2 different render engines, they WILL look plenty different because every engine handles stuff differently. For example, if you try to compare Redshift to C4D physical you will almost certainly see a very, very noticeable difference. I love Octane for it's special "Octane Look" but I also love Redshift for it's flexibility and speed. I do understand why people ask that question. I've seen artists switch render engines and their artwork got either better or sometimes worse, at least to my eyes.
arnold use gpu too.
Yes, it does, but It was purposely left out because Arnold GPU is still technically experimental and is not the same as Arnold CPU. Just trying to simplify it a bit for this video rather than get into those technicalities.
The truth.
Davidariew 😂❤️
Lies! my Schwarzenegger 4.0 TPU Render running on my Astalavista 6080Trex Cards ( with CCP acceleration ) , can do any subscarface Repressions 1.05 times faster than PinkSwing 4.0 (Millenium Edition ) running the same hardware... FACTS!
I'm broke af, so i use ProRender 😬. In my opinion a very good gpu render alternative to c4d physical.
IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE!
You're talking about a religion, you mention or Octane Jesus and goes out saying he has been trying a different cult? Are you nuts???
I would never fall for that... Octane forever.
sounds like a religion
VRAY is the best for c4d
Lol
As always : One question - 4 minutes talking - No answer . F.
But there WAS an answer. The answer is that there isn't one. It's your personal preference. That's why there will never be an answer.
@@Mograph Anyway, thank you for answering. Have a good New Year. F.
adding a couple of GPU cards isnt going to make a big impact on getting lots of renders done. you need a GPU renderfarm - like 10 GPU cards... which costs even MORE than a CPU renderfarm.
You can definitely make an impact with GPU cards. If your render is 2:00 a frame with a GPU engine, adding another card will take it to 1:00 a frame. Going to 4 cards will make it :30 a frame. That's a pretty significant difference.
ale pier***i
Huh?