@@stephenh5944yes the ones where the stars were orbiting the center if the disc we live on which he claimed were Australia and Greenland but were really shot from Hyperborea.
Akumuvirus - I'd be interested to know whether he actually took the footage at the equator or edited his north/south videos together. That'd be cool to see footage from the equator looking to the north and another looking to the south.
@@fotwen But while you're able to observe every night the Polaris (that points NORTH), you NEVER see the Southern Cross (that points South)! And someone in Australia NEVER sees the Polaris but every night he's able to look at the Southern Cross. That's because you still live on the Northern Hemisphere and an Aussie on the Southern one. This means, planet Earth has two celestial poles. This is possible ONLY on a GLOBE. On a flat Earth there would be only one celestial pole.
@@UncommonSense-wm5fd No, one said you couldn't. Some constellations are both visible in the Southern and in the Northern Hemisphere as well. What you'll NEVER see in Australia is the Northern Star (Polaris) that points North. Instead you'll be able to see the Southern Cross that points South. So, Earth has 2 celestial poles and flat Earth is a HOAX!!
I appreciate a thousand times anyone who explains why we perceive only one movement in this video [earth - axis]? If the earth orbits the sun and the polaris does not, the polaris should make a significant line or curve in the frame. Respectively all other stars should not close the circle if there is more than one movement of the earth.
You can calculate. What's the radius of the orbit of the Earth around the Sun? If you know it, you can calculate the circunference and divide by 365 days. The result is the displacement of the Earth in 1 day. The other stars are too far away, so you cant see them moving fast. It's like when you are in your car on the road and a distant mountain seems to be always at the same place. The solar system orbiting the center of the galaxy is even harder to perceive because all other stars are orbiting too and are too far away, as I said before.
Imagine you're in Al Qahma, on the Saudi Red Sea coast, leaning on a wall, facing the Hira Cave on Jabal an-Nur in Mecca. Take a deep breath and let it out. Does the mountain move in your vision?
because it takes 365 days to go around our sun... and polaris is so far away that even that distance of travel around the sun does nothing to its observation, and given it and everything else in the night sky is moving around the galactic center we arent gonna see much change. Also Polaris wasnt always the Pole Star, and given enough time it will stop being the pole star and a new star will take its place (which happens to be Gamma Cephei). its all about scale, the same way mountains off in the distance will follow your car while everything else on the side of the road will wizz by as a blur.
crazy idea. but as i was looking at this, i was thinking that that's also how a vynil disc looks like. wouldn't it be something if we could listen to the music of the stars?
Beautiful and moving. To the idiots below who decry "cgi" - it's a straight time lapse of the sky in the nh and sh interspersed with star trails produced by stacking. This is mainstream astrophotography. Nothing is faked here. Go look at the night sky.
Yeah I saw an interesting video showing the movies that won "best visual effects" in the 60s, and those award winning space movies looked very cheesy/fake by today's standards. Meanwhile, the 60s NASA footage looked amazing: because it's real.
@@LifesTreeofLife It's pretty slow of course. Also, you'd have to be near the poles for the full "spin" with a center- or else you'd just see the "sheet" of stars moving across the whole sky, such as near the equator.
@@Mor2gain_760Ancients figured the stars went in a circle (360°) because they saw them going in a circle (360°). I don't mean anything against you but the person who wrote the comment you replied to. It really is that simple. Stars go in circle. See that stars go in circle. Say that stars go in circle.
Respectfully, the earth can't be flat because of this. the only way to make a southern sky like this would be to double reflect a set of stars above the northern sky or below the "southern" edge. even then, however, in order to make that double reflection available in 360°(visible in the south from everywhere) that proposed reflector would have to be a bowl-possibly your sky dome- making it impossible for that star to ever be a single point in the sky. on a flat earth, polaris' "southern" counterpart would be a line spanning the entire southern sky from east to west, no matter where you look.
Leon Mccrae how? Do you really not see the problem that Alex descripted? The axis of rotation is dependent on your distance to the equator! Now tell, where do you expect such a thing? On a flat disk or a sphere? Seriously it's not that hard to understand...
Leon Mccrae What exactly is a "perspective warp" supposed to be? Yes perspective distortes images. So what? This in fact is the very effect that fucks up the whole movement of the night sky on a flat earth. I'll now use the model you people always use: The flat earth as being round, having the north pole at the middle and this sky dome above. The sky rotates anti clockwise at the north pole in 24h. Now can you show me any angle and perspective when looking up to it, that turns this anticockwise rotation into a clockwise rotation? If you look at a moving carousel or something like that, do you really think there is any angle at which it appears to turn in the other direction? This is completely bonkers and only flat earthers use the word "perspective warp". As if the usage of this word and the constant "you just need to understand it" without actually attempting to explain it, somehow lets all the paradoxes suddenly disappear. For such an effect you'd need some very wierd light bending inside the atmosphere *that clearly does not happen within it*. Also: We do see *two distinctly DIFFERENT sky hemispheres* When you stand under a huge dome, where could you ever see TWO hemispheres? Deal with it: The night sky is closed and 360 degree in all directions. It's not just one dome. Next problem : If you stand somewhere but at the north pole, parts of the rotating dome that are closer to you rush by faster than those which are farther away from you. This effect gets stronger the farther south you go. But what do we observe? We observe a night sky that rotates smoothly and equally fast in all directions.
Leon Mccrae TLDR: Using he notorious flat earth model perspective in fact fucks everything up. 1. Perspective doesn't turn an anticlockwise direction into a clockwise one. 2.The night sky rotates with the same angular velocity in all direction. The dome would not appear that way, unless your where to stand at the north pole Those are the problems. Now what exactly is this perspective warp and how does it solve all of that?
Here’s the thing, if we were on a supersonic spinning ball, the only way to make perfect circular star trails would be from the poles. You can’t make perfect circular star trails from the side of a supersonic spinning ball. If you had any type of logical thought, you’d be able to realize that. The fact that you can point a camera to the North or South from anywhere, and make perfect circular star trails proves it’s the stars that are moving, not the earth. Besides, the stars never change, and Earth’s movement has never been detected by any experiment. All experiments prove earth to be rock solid
I'll be nice. I'll link to some videos showing what horseshit you talk. th-cam.com/video/_terqjEMuMU/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/yzG4KUSv-gs/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/cvkkKAFJXwQ/w-d-xo.html
Bingo. What is not being considered is the omnidirectional spinning that should be taking place, but is not occurring. We eithet only see the spin of earth (if a globe), or we see a mostly locked position of stars rotating around us with little to no independent movement of their own.
Hi there, I am assuming the star trails at the start were in the north and the star trails at 2:44 were in the south? Also at 2:20 what location was were they taken from and facing west or east? Thanks
You can tell they were filmed in the south because of the crux constellation and because when it shows the star trails there is no star in the middle that seems like it's not moving.
@@daviddorset307 What do you mean by “Earth spins faster”?! Earth spins at the same speed everywhere, 1 full rotation in 23 hr 56 min 4 sec. The ground on Equator moves fastest, but that’s because Earth is biggest at Equator. But all celestial objects, no matter from where they are observed, move at the same angular speed, 15 degrees per hour.
@daviddorset307 they travel across the entire sky in one night, compared to the stars near the celestial poles which show virtually no movement... just as would be expected when observing from a rotating sphere. No contradictions here.
Die zwei verschiedenen Nachthimmel werden durch holographische Interferometrie dargestellt. Diese hat Dennis Gabor entdeckt. Polaris gegen den Uhrzeigersinn direkt über der Axis Mundi und durch die holographie in Afrika, Amerika und Australien im Uhrzeigersinn.
@@johnpurefeeling6258 Dennis Gabor würde sich im Grab umdrehen, wenn er wüsste, dass seine Entdeckung von Flatearthern verschwurbelt werden würde... Einfach mal "holographische Interferometrie" sagen und ab dem Zeitpunkt ist jede normale Person aus der Diskussion ausgestiegen, was ihr dann für einen klaren Sieg haltet. Nur erklärt das genannte Phänomen leider genauso wenig die Beobachtung vom Nachthimmel wie die Erklärung "Salatdressing".
@@nebula6362 it is clearly a sphere, that is why we have north celestial pole and south celestial pole, stars surrounding each one of them, what is so funny?
1st is Northern Hemisphere and 2nd is the Southern. You can tell by the rotation which is which. You cannot see the southern hemisphere from the northern and visa versa.
AWSOME video!!! I was always curious what the people in other parts of our flat earth see in the night sky, I wish you would have done a US version. I was trying to see what Russia saw and this video came up, it explains a lot perfectly! Thank you for your work! It was beautiful!
They appear to go around in circles parallel to the Earth's rotation, aka parallel to the Equator, from east to west. If you're looking due north that's anti-clockwise. It you're looking east it's up. If you're looking south it's clockwise. If you're looking west it's down. If you're lying on your back near the north pole, you're pretty much looking north, so anti-clockwise. If you're lying on your back near the south pole, you're pretty much looking south, so clockwise. if you're lying on your back near the equator, they seem to go from east to west, pretty much the same as the Sun.
Cool I've seen Warrumbungle range observatory. I'm stuck on flat earth startrail proof. Heading south to get my own footage soon. Lovely footage thank you :)
Got my own footage. If it is a spherical earth it is not the earth that they say it is. The stars appear to be affected by perspective at strange latitudes. I went to south Australia and the stars acted as if I were on an equator of a spherical planet.. If it is a sphere, the equator of that sphere is way further south then we are told. pear shaped? lol. I'm finally starting to understand why that might be thrown around..
So when is PGW going to show his pictures, as an inhabitant of the Southern Hemisphere, I am looking forward to his pics and answer. "strange latitudes" Ha what an arsehole.
that was a lovely video. I just been getting into TH-cam even though it's been around for awhile. I have been shocked about some of the stuff that people upload. I didn't even know there was a theory that the globe was flat. and it just cracks me up that there are people out there that are trying to prove that the Earth is flat using technology that is based on the model that the Earth is a globe. flat earthers are hypocrites.
loverules u see that star in the middle that’s Polaris it’s the North Star it don’t move all the other ones spin around it, on a globe it shouldn’t be seen from Australia but homeboy clearly caches it in the vid so what does that mean ??? 🚫🌎🚫 it means the heliocentric model is bull shit
@@23dannyt Show a better model that still has the stars rotating as shown in this video than the globe. If you cannot then the Globe model is still the only one we have ever found that fits the observations. If you can come up with another shape that fits all the questions one can ask about the observable phenomenon then you will win a Nobel prize and be one of the most famous people ever. Do you not think scientists and great thinkers have not already tried alternative shapes than an oblate spheroid? They have tried every conceivable shape and none of them except a globe shows the same behaviour and phenomenon.
So you honestly believe that earth is the only, out of millions of planets, is the only flat planet??? When all other planets are round.... Wow... Special kind of stupid, aye?
Who said the Moon was not round? Why would it need to be flat if GOD did not put LIFE on it???? Kind of stupid to believe working complex designs and LIFE comes from a pure nothingness stupidity.
Read all of Ezekiel chapter one it is a chapter about the wheels of beasts likened unto the wheels of the firmament the bible and the biblical cosmology is validated by this video. Ezekiel 1:16 King James Version (KJV) 16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel. The word firmament appears 4 times in this chapter Ezekiel 1:22 King James Version (KJV) 22 And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above. Please be very careful when dismissing the bible and the creator God that authored it, as people who do this never factor in that the devil is the god of this fallen world and that he is way smarter and more cunning than people ever care to know, When you ignore, dismiss, blaspheme the Creator God, Satan is given a legal right to access you to blind you and give you confidence in your opinion you then think you have a handle on reality but you don't, you have simply been deceived by the false light of Lucifer. if you don't repent and turn and face God and have your blindness lifted and have your sins paid for by Jesus Christ perfect life death and resurrection you will only realise that the wool has been pulled over your eyes when you land in Hell then you will quickly sober up to reality of this horrific fallen world and that Adam and Eve unleased the most unimaginable horror by thinking it was a ever a good idea to cut out the Holy Creator God. Remember the Devil is a weasel and cannot create anything Hell was created by God for the Devil and his angels and all the foolish humans that blindly follow him. The Devil can only reverse what God says and cover the truth in rings and rings of lies and half truths. I hope and pray that you really consider getting right with God as nothing you do in this fallen world has any value or meaning unless you get right with your Creator God. Take care God Bless 2 Corinthians 4:4 King James Version (KJV) 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. Proverbs 14:16 King James Version (KJV) 16 A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident. Proverbs 9:10 King James Version (KJV) 10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
True... although nobody is allowed on Antarctica... how the f did this person make a timelapse as if it was all rotating around a single point like polaris... and when he does that there are trees in front of it? Is this what it looks like in Australia or Argentina then?
@@ieder1een175 you don't have to be in Antarctica to see the south pole. you can simple be on a boat facing the "ice wall". if you are on the "east" side of the flat earth you would see the south pole on top of the "ice wall" rotating to the right. If you go on the west side, you would still see it on top of the "ice wall" rotating in the same direction... but you are facing in the complete opposite direction having a flat earth point of view... so they would appear to rotate in opposite directions if you are looking at things from above the dome, which is impossible with any kind of projections.
Basically you can have an infinite amount of locations along the "ice wall" and have an infinite amount of locations for the south pole on top of the "ice wall" around which the stars are rotating. So basically it's check mate FE.
false, this actually proves it's flat. if the Earth is moving thousands of kilometres per second through the universe as you guys claim this means we should be seeing new stars everyday and not the same ones
@@abcdefxyz1239 you only see stars in the local cluster which are pretty close, and they move together in the same direction just like a stream in a river. They do tend to move slowly apart, but you need thousands of years to see a difference.
The bright star in the middle of the North Celestial Pole is called Polaris (Alpha Ursae Minoris if we're being technical) The extremely dim star in the middle of the South Celestial Pole is called Sigma Octantis (it wasn't important enough to get a cool name)
Something is always seen in these timelapses: satellites darting through the sky, leaving straight trails between the circles of stars...so they are also a proof satellites do exist.
sepertinya kebanyakannya itu adalah meteor, susah bedain satelit n meteor.. sepertinya sih kalau cahayanya mengecil lalu menghilang, berarti itu meteor.. kalau cahayanya tetap, berarti satelit.. contoh nya di menit 1:14-1:15 , kmungkinan besar itu satelit lewat..
If the Earth were flat, the stars in the southern hemisphere would always move in a line parallel to the ground, and you would see them circling the entire surface until they came back to the same point. I live in Brazil and I've already filmed something similar to the one in the video, and it's a fact that Crux (Cruzeiro do Sul) revolves around the same point throughout the night. Again, if the Earth were not a sphere revolving around itself, Crux would never be visible to a fixed camera during a whole night, as it would move parallel to the horizon and make a turn behind the camera.
If the Earth is a spinning ball rotating 1000 miles an hour, how do you explain the North Star being stationary and the other stars rotating around it? If the Earth were spinning, wouldn't the North Star also be moving across the sky overnight? But it doesn't. How do you explain this? How do you think the ancient navigators sailed their ships at night if the North Star moved?
@@johnnydasilveira9001 Polaris is aligned with the north pole of the Earth's axis, so it appears to be fixed at night, but it is not true that it has always been in the same position. Due to the precession of the equinoxes, the position of Polaris changes from year to year. Look for Thuban, which was the pole star in ancient Egypt and is now considerably distant from the North Pole. In fact, you should be more concerned with the South Pole than the North, since the mere existence of a South Celestial Pole dispels any possibility of a celestial dome existing.
+Serbian Conspiracy Although Sigma Octantis is the closest star to the South celestial Cole... it is not exactly at the SCP. And yes Eric Dubay is a liar and spreader of bullshit... but he's probably making great money from selling his books of lies and bullshit videos and living tax free in Thailand
speaking of thailand! thailand is almost near the equator. so eric can view most part of both northern and souther hemisphere! i bet he wont stop his BS cause his raking money on flat earth theory!
By the way Dubay lives near Bangkok which is about 13.7 degrees north of the equator. I have just returned from Indonesia and was 8 degrees below the equator and there was no sign of Polaris. So at 13.7 degrees north of the equator Dubay would not be able to see Sigma Octantis or dual star trails. Not that I am supporting Dubay in any way ... he clearly lies until his pants are on fire about Polaris being able to be seen in the southern hemisphere. And it would be so easy for him to travel south of the equator... a plane trip from Bangkok to Bali ... is a mere 4 hour flight !! He actually says that Polaris can be seen in the southern summer down to 23.5 degrees south ... an indication that he doesn't even understand that the celestial poles are directly above the north and south poles TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE TILT OF THE EARTH !!!!
Adaptive Logic The earth does not tilt, wobble or gyrate. If you think this proves or disproves anything, it's an assumption on your part. Maybe you also think two opposing pressure systems can exist side by side, i.e vacuum to non vacuum with no barrier in between. Are you also of the persuasion that you are spinning 1000mph at the equator while orbiting the sun at a whopping 65000mph while the sun itself is orbiting the centre of the milky way at 650000mph with no parralax within the stars we see? maybe you also think you can propel yourself in a vacuum too? All theoretical nonsense, and you probably buy it. I did. People who have had a serious look at true shape of our world have found flaw after flaw. We do not live on a sphere, and that can be proven. I wish you well on your journey, seriously, I do.
Flermin need to stop *conflating shape with motion (or lack thereof!).* While long exposure star trail timelapses don't necessarily demonstrate that earth 🌎 is in motion, *sidereal time* most certainly does. Whereas this precise video as well as the geometry of the enveloping equidistant celestial sphere *proves earth is spherical.* Hear me out... The ascension angle of both celestial poles above and below the horizon will always be identical, and perfectly correspond with the observer's latitude in degrees. For instance at my latitude here in New Zealand at the *40th south parallel,* the SCP resides *40° above the horizon and Polaris is buried 40° beneath the horizon* in the opposite direction to the north. There are *180 degrees between the poles* of any sphere by geometric necessity, and therefore *180 lines of latitude.* The distance between the poles of earth is 20,001.6 kilometers. 20,001.6 km / 180° = 111.12 km. One degree of declination on the celestial sphere corresponds to one parallel line of latitude, which are 111.12 kilometers apart. *So one degree = 111.12 kilometers.* Therefore, I'd have to travel 111.12 km x 40° = 4,444.8 kilometers north to reach the equator and render Polaris just visible on the horizon, 0° in altitude. To reconcile this pivot point on their model, flat earthers must vehemently deny and reject the existence of the SCP, with some citing that it's just a "void in the sky." For one, if the North Celestial Pole wasn't marked by it's close proximity to a bright star, would that in any way negate the existence of the geometric pivot point itself, let alone it's enduring position relative to nearby stars and circumpolar constellations? Nah bro 😂 This denial of the SCP is a knee-jerk reaction stemming from necessity I like to call the #PolarisNotReal fallacy, and is facilitated by their geographic privilege. Flermin can't see the SCP because of earth's rotundity... How convenient ;) Meaning that by the same logic, I could just as easily validate the *south-orientated Azimuthal equidistant projection* placing Antarctica in the center because a fixed immovable SCP is what I observe, thereby lumping the burden of proof onto flermin as to the position of Polaris and the big dipper around the North Arctic ice wall... *And it would be equally valid.* While I'll concede that at first glance, the SCP appears a relatively dim region of sky, a closer inspection with long exposure and the lack of light pollution will reveal that it's far from empty, *and is in fact full of light.* If earth were flat, we here in the southern hemisphere would be the first to know and concede. Yet there are no flat earthers here, at least none that can't be set straight with a simple, rudimentary understanding of celestial mechanics and spherical astronomy. Go figure! *This speaks volumes.* So to to all you flermin out there trying to dictate to me what I can and can't observe day in and day out all year round... Shut up. Piss off. And when you get there, PISS OFF again 😂😆
All flat heads that watch the sky live in Northern Hemisphere. Flat heads here in the south are afraid of watching the sky, and I REALLY know all the reasons why.
@@elonesnah Hahaha. Nice. It is more proof that flattards have no intention of looking at evidence that will disprove their hypothesis. They just want their fantasy Flat Earth to exist no matter what.
@@VestigialHead The earth is flat. nasa in hebrew means "to deceive". if the earth is 93.697 miles far away from the sun and rotating around it while rotation every 24 hours around it self why does polaris and sigma octantis stars never move ?
Wait, ive got it. Someone measure exactly how many degrees it is between polaris and octantis. Is it exactly 180 or less than that?!!!! Is it around 90?
Eli S. Ramirez me asking if I could use someone’s content shows how desperate I am? I don’t think you know what the word desperate means. Also it does prove the shape of the earth, because a flat earth cannot have two poles, and this video clearly shows that the earth has two poles; a South Pole and a North Pole. However since you don’t know what desperate means I wouldn’t be surprised if you don’t know what a pole means either
Eli S. Ramirez th-cam.com/video/94hgPY7K5Vs/w-d-xo.html here is a video that explains it for you, and shows how Eric straight up lied about the southern star trails
Eli S. Ramirez i made one video about him a few years ago, and you claim I’m trying sO hArD to debunk him. Please, you are clearly not a very sensible person... probably why you believe the earth is flat
Eli S. Ramirez oh, and you’re an idiot for not realizing how these star trails do in fact show the shape of the earth. Even Eric Dubay’s model has to try to make it appear like the southern star trails don’t exist... because he knows how damaging they are to his and any other flat earth model
The problem I have is the stationary position of the north star while the sun gains and loses heighth while the north star doesn't move. Which, is impossible. If the sun is stationary and the earth wobbles to constitute the seasons, the north star would be bring the amount of degrees the sun moves in the summer and winter. It wouldn't remain stationary. There are several phenomenon that can occur to constitute such things. But me only believing what I can prove I will never know. Because I'm lazy.
You are not only lazy, but also dumb, and arrogant for thinking you know better than people who understand it much better thatn you do. The problem, for you, is that you blindly believe that "North star" is stationary, although we can actually observe its motion, even on this time lapse video. Another problem is the fact that change of position of the Sun on the sky is governed by the fact that Earth axis of rotation is angled at 23°, while Earth is orbiting around the Sun without changing its orientation in relation to space. If you had some basic physics knowledge, and a little bit of intelligence, you could easily understand it.
The seasons aren't caused by the earth wobbling, the earth is tilted a constant 23.5°, which causes it to point toward Polaris. That tilt is always in the same direction, currently toward Polaris, but as the earth rotates around the sun the direction of that tilt relative to the sun changes, which is what causes the seasons.
Acts 7:49 ESV 49 “‘Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. What kind of house will you build for me, says the Lord, or what is the place of my rest?
If they could think for themselves, they wouldn't be flat earthers in the first place. Hint: If we were on a flat Earth, this photo time lapse could be recorded from below centre of flat earth, and no where else.
Where is your scientific evidence supporting your claim that two points of rotation cannot happen on a flat earth? I'd be very interested to read/see it. Thanks!!
Peter Peterson just look at every flat earth model. all had Polaris as the one point of rotation. even if you try it for yourself with a plate. try to replicate what your see here. And the results won't equal what reality is. this is only possible on a roundish earth.
What's more important to note is that if we were spinning, orbiting and hurtling at mach crazy horse, why would that star be there tmrw? Because God did not lie when He said the Earth is fixed and cannot be moved.
The stars appear to remain where they are in the celestial sphere because they are really far away. But the reality of the situation is that they have parallax throughout the year, and we can measure that parallax to determine how far away they are. We also have ways of determining how fast they move in space. And this is not mentioning supernovae, in other words, the fact that stars can die.
When stuff is so far away, it doesnt appear to move. If that effect is visible on mere mountains here on earth, itll be much stronger on stars that are literal lightyears from us
@@doodoo2065 Nonsense because they have not changed one iota for millennia. That's why we still have multiple temples in perfect alignment with stars and people still practising astrology. The stars are for signs and seasons says God. Nothing changes. Believing you can see something measured by light years just proves your imagination has been cast into outer darkness by the mass weapon of deception that is NASA. Which means to deceive or lead astray.
@@PropertyofJesus777 People knew all this stuff way before NASA was established in 1958. Barnard's star, discovered in 1916, moves so fast you can see the change in position every year. The pole star in the time of ancient Egypt was Thuban, not Polaris. In the centuries before and after the birth of Christ, there was no pole star. This was documented by the Greek navigator Pytheas in 320 BC, and later by the Romans. NASA has nothing to do with any of this.
@@stephenh5944 The 5 armed services pillars say you're wrong. And there are people still alive who were taught flat earth in school. Before the occult came along and rolled out their past perversions into mainstream. If you are COVID jabbed then don't argue about anything. It sounds like you only believe the narrative.
How so debunked in 5mnutes??? Where's the evidence star trails of this nature cannot be observed on a flat earth?? On the same token, where is the evidence the earth is a globe?? Observations such as the above do not prove the earth is a globe! To think the earth is a globe based on observations presented in the above video is ridiculous! What a joke! And then we have to ASSUME the information presented in the video is accurate and true!
Unless the "dome" has two or more sections, you ain't gonna get diverging rotations.. and, for just the latest FE decimation, see Shawn Hufford's latest FE decimation th-cam.com/video/x-uS0B1lLnw/w-d-xo.html
Roger until you have proven that the star trails (if true and rotate in said directions), cannot work on a flat earth then the info in the above video and within the linked video in your comment is only conjecture! How you going to achieve that? Ask Brian Cox for some evidence? It's rubbish!
Flat earthers are the perfect example of the dunning kruger effect. You see some youtube videos and feel you've learned something. When in fact, you don't even know enough about the subject to realize what you don't know.
James Boudreaux the sun appears to spiral up and down the ecliptic in a year.....you moon does this circuit in roughly 28 days....the stars spin around a fixed earth never deviating north or south..they travel in a fixed path in the sky ..measure a star and you'll find it takes 23hrs56mins to return to its position in the sky. the moon takes about 24hrs50mins to cross a north south line in the sky...forgot what the sun is.
Great! Flat earth debunked in one video. I wish some commenters would stop saying Christians are flat earthers though. I’m Christian & I love science & space research. I’m sick of flatards infesting every space video comments section. I know the earth is a spinning ball by observation & common sense, as do all my scientifically interested friends at church. There’s no justification for equating all Christians with flat or dome earthers.
correction your a christian who love scientists and science fiction, if you really love science (true science that is self evident) you would simply become a flat earther, also point me where god said the earth is a globe in the bible please
Frank Hern from the beginning of humanity, up until 50 years ago, everyone believed that the earth is flat, it wasn't until space agencies faked space travels when re- sorry people started believing the earth to be a ball sack flying in vecuum, here is a challange for you lad, if you could prove to me that the earth is moving in space, then i'll become a globe earther
@@penzalo4119 Can you show me what your bibble has to say about Madagascar, Vietnam, Svalbard, Greenland, Yellowstone, New Zealand, the isthmus of Panama, Volcán Cayambe, Tierra del Fuego, bacteriophages, Creuzfeld-Jakob Disease, cirrostratus cloud formation, lamellar airflows, aluminium, radioactive decay, atomic emission spectra, electromagnets, optical density, the duck-billed platypus, the mid-Atlantic rift, Hawaii, kangaroos, ocelots, laminated glass, bakelite, Eratosthenes, Finland, magnesium and Jennifer Connelly?
Sorry Jonny boy, it actually proves the earth is flat… if you don’t know by now, you just refuse to believe the truth… and that sir makes you stupid. Lol no offense
The arcs seen are about the same as the arc between two markings on a clock face. As a clock's hour hand goes round twice per day and the Earth only once, that's about two hours of rotation. In two hours, the Earth rotates 30.0821° and goes 0.0794411° (December) to 0.0849458° (June) around the Sun and the solar system goes 0.0000000003571186° around the galaxy. Your frame of reference for the Earth's rotation is *all* the stars. Your frame of reference for the Earth's orbit around the Sun is the *nearest* relative to the *furthest* visible stars. Your frame of reference for the galaxy's rotation is the stars relative to other galaxies in the background. Which do you expect to be able to see?
@@chrisperkins8647 Yeah, looks like this, even though there is no dome and Earth is not flat. There is a reason the observable stars in the sky are named "the celestial sphere" and a reason there are two celestial poles, one in the north, one in the south.
@@daddy3982 Agreed 👍 This precise video as well as the geometry of the enveloping equidistant celestial sphere proves earth is spherical. Hear me out... The ascension angle of both celestial poles above and below the horizon will always be identical, and perfectly correspond with the observer's latitude in degrees. For instance at my latitude here in New Zealand at the *40th south parallel,* the SCP resides *40° above the horizon and Polaris is buried 40° beneath the horizon* in the opposite direction to the north. There are *180 degrees between the poles* of any sphere by geometric necessity, and therefore *180 lines of latitude.* The distance between the poles of earth is 20,001.6 kilometers. 20,001.6 km / 180° = 111.12 km. One degree of declination on the celestial sphere corresponds to one parallel line of latitude, which are 111.12 kilometers apart. *So one degree = 111.12 kilometers.* Therefore, I'd have to travel 111.12 km x 40° = 4,444.8 kilometers north to reach the equator and render Polaris just visible on the horizon, 0° in altitude. To reconcile this pivot point on their model, flat earthers must vehemently deny and reject the existence of the SCP, with some citing that it's just a "void in the sky." For one, if the North Celestial Pole wasn't marked by it's close proximity to a bright star, would that in any way negate the existence of the geometric pivot point itself, let alone it's enduring position relative to nearby stars and circumpolar constellations? Nah bro 😂 This denial of the SCP is a knee-jerk reaction stemming from necessity I like to call the #PolarisNotReal fallacy, and is facilitated by their geographic privilege. Flermin can't see the SCP because of earth's rotundity... How convenient ;) Meaning that by the same logic, I could just as easily validate the *south-orientated Azimuthal equidistant projection* placing Antarctica in the center because a fixed immovable SCP is what I observe, thereby lumping the burden of proof onto flermin as to the position of Polaris and the big dipper around the North Arctic ice wall... *And it would be equally valid.* While I'll concede that at first glance, the SCP appears a relatively dim region of sky, a closer inspection with long exposure and the lack of light pollution will reveal that it's far from empty, *and is in fact full of light.* If earth were flat, we here in the southern hemisphere would be the first to know and concede. Yet there are no flat earthers here, at least none that can't be set straight with a simple, rudimentary understanding of celestial mechanics and spherical astronomy. Go figure! *This speaks volumes.* So to to all you flermin out there trying to dictate to me what I can and can't observe day in and day out all year round... Shut up. Piss off. And when you get there, PISS OFF again 😂😆
I think it’s possible that the earth is a sphere, with high mountains and low valleys and a lot of water staying in those valleys. I also think it's possible the earth rotates around the sun, but at 66,600 mph? I don't believe that, and the moon rotates around the earth? how fast is the moon moving? And why isn't the moon spinning? What I can't believe is the earth, while rotating around the sun, also is spinning on invisible magnetic energy fields, from west to east, at 1,000 mph, at the equator, and o at the north and south poles, and, our collective solar system; sun, and planets and moons, are flying through infinite space at 550,000 mph, and our galaxy is moving through space at 2,237,000 mph. How can we view stars millions of miles away stuck in our night sky for centuries? Do all stars fly through space along side with our solar system and galaxy? And are we as a collective solar system, and galaxy, traveling north, south, east, or west? Set aside the flat earth debate, explain the Earth's west to east spin at over 1,000 mph at equator and 0 mph at the poles and 700 mph at the Tropic of Cancer and Tropic of Capricorn, at 23 degrees, and how the atmosphere moves with the Earth. How is the atmosphere, which is a gas, and the Earth which is a solid, and the water, which is a liquid, all moving at the same speed as one body? And if the atmosphere is a gas, how is it different from other gases like wind from hurricanes or simple directional breezes?
@@Sealedservant sometimes the answer is hidden within the question, and there is always more to learn and innerstand. we humans are limited in our ability to know the depths of our spiritual reality and our material reality, the complete knowing of our reality is never going to be realized while we are in our mortal perishable human bodies, we will know all things when we receive our eternal resurrected bodies. the spiritual world is not only all around us, it is existing and overlapping our material world, and the spiritual entities good and evil, are able to manifest themselves in our world, but we cannot fully manifest ourselves in their world. summary; time, space and everything within it, is unknowable. so forget the debate of round earth vs. flat earth, and consider other possibilities. talk to Jesus often and His Holy Spirit will teach you all you need to know. Peace and Maranatha.
@@Sealedservant go deeper... think "matrix" as in not comprehensible to our limited ability to grasp complete reality. the more you wonder and consider all possibilities, the more your mind can expand. try to break free of choosing the first two choices they have presented to you, and then your awareness increases. let's try a few other possibilities and see where that takes us.
Bring your arms out to your sides, make your hands fists, and rotate them in " over " position in circles in the same direction. Look to your left arm and you'll see it going Counter/Anti Clockwise. Look to your right arm and you'll see it going Clockwise. Notice though they're going in the same direction. You're just flipping your Point of View ( PoV ) 180*. Yes the Anti-Clockwise motion is the Northern Hemisphere. Right from the getgo of this video @ 0:10 you can see the Andromeda Galaxy on the very right side in the middle area. Notice the thing that looks like a bright star with 2 fuzzy tails on the right and left side of it. That's actually the Andromeda Galaxy and the " starry " middle is the bright galactic bulge center. The Andromeda Galaxy is difficult to see in the Southern Hemisphere because its' declination is +41*North which means it can only be seen skimming the horizon in New Zealand in the Winter months ( I mean Southern Hemisphere Winter not Northern Hemisphere Winter :P ).
The 2 patches of " clouds " @ 2:43 are the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds, which are Milky Way satellite galaxies. They cannot be seen in most of the Northern Hemisphere as they're very close to the Southern Celestial Pole.
the backwards rotation is only from the observer's point of perspective on the ground if you go to the southern hemisphere the Stars travel from east to west just like everything else this guy is completely manipulated this to fool people you can tell by the placement of the Milky Way the Milky Way sets right next to Polar is what he did was flipped the orientation 180 degrees and made it out to be the southern hemisphere that's why there's edits that cut the scenes... you can see where the line start to straighten out well if he would have kept going you would see nothing but Stars traveling horizontally along the horizon he intentionally did this to manipulate this
Ryan wyrick But there's two different points of rotation... The southern hemisphere set of stars seem to rotate the opposite direction is because the observer is flipped on their y axis. which would cause by being on the other side of a globe, or roundish earth. Even the auroras create two circles around the celestial poles. not possible on a flat earth.
Ryan Wyrick That is completely wrong. The Milky Way, Large Magellanic Clouds and Small Magellanic Clouds are exactly where they're suppose to be. That's not even the galactic center. It's the " right " side of the Milky Way. The camera goes into star trail mode before the galactic center even rises. As I already said, you cannot even see the Large and Small Magellanic clouds from the Northern Hemisphere and the galactic center is only visible low to the Southern horizon in the Northern Hemisphere during the Summer months. You will NEVER see the Milky Way galaxy pass all the way overhead in the Northern Hemisphere.
It's convenient for flat earthers to call things like this CGI, because they don't want to believe. Just go do this "experiment" your self. See how wrong you are.
YoMamaJiggle if you can't verify. Then you trust those who can. Not one person. But when scientific consensus is overwhelmingly in favor you do. Especially when there isn't a single real scientist who believes in a flat Earth. Not that I've ever heard. Uncle Mike in the back yard who says so because it doesn't make sense to him isn't a real source. Science isn't perfect. But it tries it's best. And makes changes to better our understanding not worsen them. And what would a flat Earth do for us? This argument comes down to religion. If the Bible is true then the earth is flat. It's emotionally driven. Not reality driven.
All that can't be explained by them, they call CGI, fraud, illusion, fake, frenzy "I don't know how to explain it in a flat earth, better call it fake"
Can you please, show me ONE proof that rockets cant work in a vacuum. Any one who has ever actually done this, the evidence shows rockets work BETTER in a vacuum. So... some evidence would be nice.
@@Mor2gain_760 simple logic. If rockets work in a vacuum at all, then it stands to reason that reduced gravity and no air resistance would mean the rocket has less to overcome, aka no air resistance or friction.
***** . Lol I think y missed my point. You're saying pay no attention to the video, but that's only going to make people more curious. If people are posting in the comments section, then they've already seen the video, and they can take it or leave it. You are just trying to tell people what to do, and when you do that, most people will just do the opposite of what you say.
***** . Someone doing the opposite of what you say isn't an indication that they will notice how they can be fooled into believing something is real. But I think most people are probably already aware of the fact that they can be fooled.
+Bright Starzz I guess for you to say this video is fake you must be an expert in CGI and animation. So with all of your knowledge could you please point out to me in CGI and animation terms exactly what makes it fake? Because personally I think you are fake !!
I'll have to do this test myself, because it's not hard to reverse the time lapse and make it appear as if the stars are rotating in the opposite direction.
Don't forget that in the video of the southern hemisphere, there is also a completely different set of stars and constellations than the northern hemisphere. That is another dead giveaway that it is truly filmed in the southern hemisphere.
one of the most fascinating things about this phenomenon that is over looked is the fact that they all move in a fixed orbit. if we are hurtling through space then they would also move in two planes one around and the other away. they wouldn't fully rotate in a perfect circle. can't make sense of this. i understand that this shows the rotation but still looks like a fixed system moving together.
we are supposedly moving around the sun and the sun is moving around the galaxy yet the same formations of stars have been in the same positions for over 10,000 years of recorded history. seen by all who looked up and observed and recorded them. i don't see that it is possible if all are scattered about moving at untold speeds in all directions. it is irrelevant as far as distance. if they are in 3d them they should be in different positions as we travel from one side of the sun to the other. the alignments of objects in 3d separated by distance will change realation when observed from another angle or view point. just some questions i still have
All the stars that are observable are actually our neighbours from 1 arm of the Milky way and are travelling at a similar velocity and direction. Our Milky way has a structure, it doesnt have every star moving in random directions. Nevertheless the constellations are changing due to relative star movement over 10 000 years and here is one of many sites. www.wired.com/2015/03/gifs-show-constellations-transforming-150000-years/ Nearby stars have had there distance calculated by using parallax.
LowTech Tank You realize stars don't just go in random directions? They all follow the path in the same direction as us and the stars we see, go approximately the same speed as us. And distance DOES have a big role in it. Greater the distance, smaller the parallax.
they don't follow the earth they follow the sun and we follow it. so the stars should move relative to the sun not the earth and therefore would show a wobble or a side ways streak as we are rotating and traveling around the sun at the same time.
sure doesn’t look like we’re falling backwards on a spinning ball .. seems like the universe is orbiting around us, the centre of the universe, and the home of God’s children
the sky literally rotates in the opposite direction in the south than it does in the north. makes no sense on a flat earth. makes perfect sense on the ball earth.
Why are those trails circular? Shouldn’t they be oval? Also the ones on the edge seem to be coming up from the horizon. Doesn’t look like “perspective” to me. Hey, maybe the sun does set after all.
@@JohnHazenhousen Well, they'd be oval if they were on a ceiling a few thousand miles up. Unless you were directly underneath them, you'd be looking up at them at an angle. The fact that they are not oval suggests that they aren't on a ceiling, but in space.
@Thandon Baker Of course they'd say that. If earth were flat we here in the southern hemisphere would be the first to know and concede. *Yet there are fuck all flermin here.* Go figure. This speaks volumes! It's why flermin lie, kick, scream and cry as they dodge, squirm and evade the topic like the fucking plague lol. It's downright embarrassing. And the armchair experts north of the equator in America that attempt to tell me there is no south celestial pole, desperately attempting to dictate to me what I observe day in and day out all year round is literally akin to someone in Australia stomping their feet in a tantrum outright rejecting the existence of Mount Everest because they have never seen it... While trying to convince someone in *Nepal* who is living under it's shadow to get on board with their beliefs, and expecting them to agree!! 🤣 It's asinine.
waiting for the flat earthers to change ALL of their theories AGAIN to try to jam ANOTHER convoluted explanation how EVEN MORE PROOF that the earth is round is somehow proof of flat earth due to another asinine explanation that ignores physics, common sense, and basic reality.
looks like the stars are spinning around 1 star. If we were rotating and spinning around the sun wouldnt the trails be all over the place ? how is it a perfect circle ?
ECHO RTH That's how far the stars are. Farther things show less parallax than closer things. Sun apparently moves along the ecliptic, not celestial equator.
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finally a good star trail vid that isn't a tutorial and have no one talking for half an hour before showing the actual video.
I especially like the showing of the difference north and south of the ecliptic. Very cool!
2:23 that’s Two rotations right there folks.
Two hemispheres side by side.
Nice! Clockwise looking south, counterclockwise looking north, straight westward above the equator
This Video At The Very Least Proves Earth Is Stationary/Immovable ..💯🙏🏽
Beautifully done jungynz, thanks for making the videos and sharing with us.
Fantastic, mesmerising footage! Thank you for sharing.
Beautiful... North, Middle, South moving stars... Thanks for sharing this video. (from Indonesia)
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They only showed north and south. They put their filming locations at the end and they only had 2.
@@The_name105 There's an equatorial shot @ 2:08, not sure why they didn't site it.
@@stephenh5944yes the ones where the stars were orbiting the center if the disc we live on which he claimed were Australia and Greenland but were really shot from Hyperborea.
Thank God for Southern Hemisphere.
He even did the middle/between. Awesome...
Or maybe the middle is not the middle, who knows for sure?
Akumuvirus - I'd be interested to know whether he actually took the footage at the equator or edited his north/south videos together. That'd be cool to see footage from the equator looking to the north and another looking to the south.
@@CailisCritterCrib I'm in Texas and I can view the straight star trails from here
@@fotwen But while you're able to observe every night the Polaris (that points NORTH), you NEVER see the Southern Cross (that points South)! And someone in Australia NEVER sees the Polaris but every night he's able to look at the Southern Cross. That's because you still live on the Northern Hemisphere and an Aussie on the Southern one. This means, planet Earth has two celestial poles. This is possible ONLY on a GLOBE. On a flat Earth there would be only one celestial pole.
@@UncommonSense-wm5fd No, one said you couldn't. Some constellations are both visible in the Southern and in the Northern Hemisphere as well. What you'll NEVER see in Australia is the Northern Star (Polaris) that points North. Instead you'll be able to see the Southern Cross that points South. So, Earth has 2 celestial poles and flat Earth is a HOAX!!
I appreciate a thousand times anyone who explains why we perceive only one movement in this video [earth - axis]? If the earth orbits the sun and the polaris does not, the polaris should make a significant line or curve in the frame. Respectively all other stars should not close the circle if there is more than one movement of the earth.
You can calculate. What's the radius of the orbit of the Earth around the Sun? If you know it, you can calculate the circunference and divide by 365 days. The result is the displacement of the Earth in 1 day. The other stars are too far away, so you cant see them moving fast. It's like when you are in your car on the road and a distant mountain seems to be always at the same place.
The solar system orbiting the center of the galaxy is even harder to perceive because all other stars are orbiting too and are too far away, as I said before.
Imagine you're in Al Qahma, on the Saudi Red Sea coast, leaning on a wall, facing the Hira Cave on Jabal an-Nur in Mecca.
Take a deep breath and let it out. Does the mountain move in your vision?
because it takes 365 days to go around our sun... and polaris is so far away that even that distance of travel around the sun does nothing to its observation, and given it and everything else in the night sky is moving around the galactic center we arent gonna see much change. Also Polaris wasnt always the Pole Star, and given enough time it will stop being the pole star and a new star will take its place (which happens to be Gamma Cephei). its all about scale, the same way mountains off in the distance will follow your car while everything else on the side of the road will wizz by as a blur.
Because it doesn’t. It’s flat. The end😉
@@charliebrown2679 Good joke idiot
crazy idea. but as i was looking at this, i was thinking that that's also how a vynil disc looks like. wouldn't it be something if we could listen to the music of the stars?
Wow. To Even Have The Right Equipment And Travel, And Obtain Great Footage. Is Awesome Its Self.
Beautiful and moving. To the idiots below who decry "cgi" - it's a straight time lapse of the sky in the nh and sh interspersed with star trails produced by stacking. This is mainstream astrophotography. Nothing is faked here. Go look at the night sky.
Heck, with a smart phone, you can do this yourself. Just set it someplace stable and walk away.
Is this cgi? this is the same Southern hemesphere. Except you can see the land relative to the sky. th-cam.com/video/z2JzFKi3fcI/w-d-xo.html
I’ve never seen that in the night sky EVER in my 29 years.
Yeah I saw an interesting video showing the movies that won "best visual effects" in the 60s, and those award winning space movies looked very cheesy/fake by today's standards. Meanwhile, the 60s NASA footage looked amazing: because it's real.
@@LifesTreeofLife It's pretty slow of course. Also, you'd have to be near the poles for the full "spin" with a center- or else you'd just see the "sheet" of stars moving across the whole sky, such as near the equator.
Really good video. Hints at why early people conceived of the '360 degree' circle after noting the repeated patterns in sky as viewed from the ground.
Can you explain that a bit better, the wording didn't quite make sense to me...
@@Mor2gain_760Ancients figured the stars went in a circle (360°) because they saw them going in a circle (360°).
I don't mean anything against you but the person who wrote the comment you replied to. It really is that simple.
Stars go in circle.
See that stars go in circle.
Say that stars go in circle.
You mean to tell me the Earth is not resting on top of elephants and a giant tortoise? Damn, this just ruined my day. Thanks a lot...
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misterrh
Maybe we are just one of The Great Attuin's turds.
@[The] White Rabbit its in the Bible
this should not have been so funny you cant do this
Man if stars started to trail like that off camera id be terrified lol
i fink da edibles kickin in
Respectfully, the earth can't be flat because of this. the only way to make a southern sky like this would be to double reflect a set of stars above the northern sky or below the "southern" edge. even then, however, in order to make that double reflection available in 360°(visible in the south from everywhere) that proposed reflector would have to be a bowl-possibly your sky dome- making it impossible for that star to ever be a single point in the sky. on a flat earth, polaris' "southern" counterpart would be a line spanning the entire southern sky from east to west, no matter where you look.
Alex Bartha this actually pro as a flat earth lol and the we are not spinning but the stars are..
Leon Mccrae
how? Do you really not see the problem that Alex descripted?
The axis of rotation is dependent on your distance to the equator! Now tell, where do you expect such a thing? On a flat disk or a sphere?
Seriously it's not that hard to understand...
Jake K. If you understand how a perspective warp work because of how massive the sky is then it's very easy to understand..
Leon Mccrae
What exactly is a "perspective warp" supposed to be? Yes perspective distortes images. So what?
This in fact is the very effect that fucks up the whole movement of the night sky on a flat earth.
I'll now use the model you people always use: The flat earth as being round, having the north pole at the middle and this sky dome above.
The sky rotates anti clockwise at the north pole in 24h.
Now can you show me any angle and perspective when looking up to it, that turns this anticockwise rotation into a clockwise rotation? If you look at a moving carousel or something like that, do you really think there is any angle at which it appears to turn in the other direction? This is completely bonkers and only flat earthers use the word "perspective warp".
As if the usage of this word and the constant "you just need to understand it" without actually attempting to explain it, somehow lets all the paradoxes suddenly disappear.
For such an effect you'd need some very wierd light bending inside the atmosphere *that clearly does not happen within it*.
Also: We do see *two distinctly DIFFERENT sky hemispheres*
When you stand under a huge dome, where could you ever see TWO hemispheres? Deal with it: The night sky is closed and 360 degree in all directions.
It's not just one dome.
Next problem :
If you stand somewhere but at the north pole, parts of the rotating dome that are closer to you rush by faster than those which are farther away from you.
This effect gets stronger the farther south you go.
But what do we observe? We observe a night sky that rotates smoothly and equally fast in all directions.
Leon Mccrae
TLDR:
Using he notorious flat earth model perspective in fact fucks everything up.
1. Perspective doesn't turn an anticlockwise direction into a clockwise one.
2.The night sky rotates with the same angular velocity in all direction.
The dome would not appear that way, unless your where to stand at the north pole
Those are the problems.
Now what exactly is this perspective warp and how does it solve all of that?
Thank you for a wonderful presentation. May YUH [God] bless [Baruch] you, your family, and your ministry. And give you much Shalom [Peace].
jungynz you are true artist!!!! A lot of work. Truly appreciated. Wow
Here’s the thing, if we were on a supersonic spinning ball, the only way to make perfect circular star trails would be from the poles. You can’t make perfect circular star trails from the side of a supersonic spinning ball. If you had any type of logical thought, you’d be able to realize that. The fact that you can point a camera to the North or South from anywhere, and make perfect circular star trails proves it’s the stars that are moving, not the earth.
Besides, the stars never change, and Earth’s movement has never been detected by any experiment. All experiments prove earth to be rock solid
Horseshit!
I'll be nice. I'll link to some videos showing what horseshit you talk.
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Bingo. What is not being considered is the omnidirectional spinning that should be taking place, but is not occurring. We eithet only see the spin of earth (if a globe), or we see a mostly locked position of stars rotating around us with little to no independent movement of their own.
@flatearthfisherman7153 what you said 👍
Beautifully made video.
Forgot to label which ones are south and which ones are north xD
It's easy to tell. In the North the sky rotates counter clockwise and in the South, clockwise.
Kevin Banjo Thanks
Southern Hemisphere also has the two Magellanic Clouds.
just look up and match the motions with your phone's screen.
The kookaburra calls should be a dead giveaway. :)
Wonderful. Clearly a lot of work, it was worth it!
Nice, to record it and play it back, see it with your own eyes. Hopefully i will get an opportunity in the South Island nz to capture star trails.
Where are all the flat earthers now
We're here to the very end
madness just don't go away like that..... Sadly.
They are abducted ...
It's like a basic IQ test. If a person is a flat earther he wouldn't get it anyway, doesn't matter what you would show to him.
So beautiful!!!
Hi there, I am assuming the star trails at the start were in the north and the star trails at 2:44 were in the south? Also at 2:20 what location was were they taken from and facing west or east?
Thanks
You can tell they were filmed in the south because of the crux constellation and because when it shows the star trails there is no star in the middle that seems like it's not moving.
He doesn't say, does he, what is what?
The part where the stars are going straight is the equator I’m guessing
Correct
So why are they not moving much faster considering the earth spins much faster there.?
@@daviddorset307 What do you mean by “Earth spins faster”?!
Earth spins at the same speed everywhere, 1 full rotation in 23 hr 56 min 4 sec.
The ground on Equator moves fastest, but that’s because Earth is biggest at Equator.
But all celestial objects, no matter from where they are observed, move at the same angular speed, 15 degrees per hour.
@daviddorset307 they travel across the entire sky in one night, compared to the stars near the celestial poles which show virtually no movement... just as would be expected when observing from a rotating sphere. No contradictions here.
Gotta love the sounds of the Australian bush
Check out Star Trails exactly at the equator. You'll be stunned.
Danke, toller Beweis für die Flache Erde
Nope. Der Himmel sieht aus wie eine Kugel, und dreht sich wie eine Kugel
Die zwei verschiedenen Nachthimmel werden durch holographische Interferometrie dargestellt. Diese hat Dennis Gabor entdeckt. Polaris gegen den Uhrzeigersinn direkt über der Axis Mundi und durch die holographie in Afrika, Amerika und Australien im Uhrzeigersinn.
@@johnpurefeeling6258 Dennis Gabor würde sich im Grab umdrehen, wenn er wüsste, dass seine Entdeckung von Flatearthern verschwurbelt werden würde... Einfach mal "holographische Interferometrie" sagen und ab dem Zeitpunkt ist jede normale Person aus der Diskussion ausgestiegen, was ihr dann für einen klaren Sieg haltet. Nur erklärt das genannte Phänomen leider genauso wenig die Beobachtung vom Nachthimmel wie die Erklärung "Salatdressing".
Amazing view of the celestial sphere.
Geocentrism yes flat not at all.
The celestial sphere HAHAHAH
@@nebula6362 it is clearly a sphere, that is why we have north celestial pole and south celestial pole, stars surrounding each one of them, what is so funny?
@@angelgaviria6697 Because OP believes earth is flat but knows about the celestial sphere.
Amazing work
i wonder what the really bright star at 2:25 was
Truth!
Love it!
thanks for putting this up!
It would be nice to know which views are from which location.
The Southern Hemisphere is from around 03:00, I know this because its what I can see from my house.
1st is Northern Hemisphere and 2nd is the Southern. You can tell by the rotation which is which. You cannot see the southern hemisphere from the northern and visa versa.
AWSOME video!!! I was always curious what the people in other parts of our flat earth see in the night sky, I wish you would have done a US version. I was trying to see what Russia saw and this video came up, it explains a lot perfectly! Thank you for your work! It was beautiful!
2:42
Earth is not flat
This is sarcasm isnt it
"Sark" has no light polution. NZ is also great for near zero light polution. Great Vid mate. Cheers.
If the stars go one way in the north and the other way in the south where in the middle do they just go straight by you with no rotation or just stop
Did you even watch the video? Look at 2:14
They appear to go around in circles parallel to the Earth's rotation, aka parallel to the Equator, from east to west. If you're looking due north that's anti-clockwise. It you're looking east it's up. If you're looking south it's clockwise. If you're looking west it's down. If you're lying on your back near the north pole, you're pretty much looking north, so anti-clockwise. If you're lying on your back near the south pole, you're pretty much looking south, so clockwise. if you're lying on your back near the equator, they seem to go from east to west, pretty much the same as the Sun.
@@Sableagle how come no one has ever been to the north Pole and the south pole
@@thehappyskeptic814 Hundreds of people have been in both places, where did you get that idea from?
look at rhe polar star
Excelente video
Obrigado
Parabens
Thanks for Brasil
Mou Marques você entendeu que isso prova que a Terra é um Globo ?
@[The] White Rabbit how it proof the Earth is not moving ?
How do you explain the phases of Venus ?
Cool I've seen Warrumbungle range observatory. I'm stuck on flat earth startrail proof. Heading south to get my own footage soon. Lovely footage thank you :)
Got my own footage. If it is a spherical earth it is not the earth that they say it is. The stars appear to be affected by perspective at strange latitudes. I went to south Australia and the stars acted as if I were on an equator of a spherical planet.. If it is a sphere, the equator of that sphere is way further south then we are told. pear shaped? lol. I'm finally starting to understand why that might be thrown around..
how did it go ?
OGW wow. the lies are really incredible. perspectives? lol
So when is PGW going to show his pictures, as an inhabitant of the Southern Hemisphere, I am looking forward to his pics and answer.
"strange latitudes" Ha what an arsehole.
Kel Duck to the average FE supporter the southern 'hemi-plane' is just a fantasy land that does not exist.
my god, it's full of stars!
I got that reference! 🙂
And the Earth is flat
Stunning!
Jungynz - you also look one from the equator. We're was that? You can see the stars moving straight(in the middle) and curving on either sides.
that was a lovely video. I just been getting into TH-cam even though it's been around for awhile. I have been shocked about some of the stuff that people upload. I didn't even know there was a theory that the globe was flat. and it just cracks me up that there are people out there that are trying to prove that the Earth is flat using technology that is based on the model that the Earth is a globe. flat earthers are hypocrites.
loverules u see that star in the middle that’s Polaris it’s the North Star it don’t move all the other ones spin around it, on a globe it shouldn’t be seen from Australia but homeboy clearly caches it in the vid so what does that mean ??? 🚫🌎🚫 it means the heliocentric model is bull shit
@@23dannyt Show a better model that still has the stars rotating as shown in this video than the globe. If you cannot then the Globe model is still the only one we have ever found that fits the observations. If you can come up with another shape that fits all the questions one can ask about the observable phenomenon then you will win a Nobel prize and be one of the most famous people ever. Do you not think scientists and great thinkers have not already tried alternative shapes than an oblate spheroid? They have tried every conceivable shape and none of them except a globe shows the same behaviour and phenomenon.
So you honestly believe that earth is the only, out of millions of planets, is the only flat planet??? When all other planets are round.... Wow... Special kind of stupid, aye?
Who said the Moon was not round? Why would it need to be flat if GOD did not put LIFE on it????
Kind of stupid to believe working complex designs and LIFE comes from a pure nothingness stupidity.
@@KixenDK dear the truth hidden. is on the holy Quran ,when Allah described all the universe..www.islam-guide.com/bqs/17astronomy.htm
58 flatearthers disliked the video!
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE EARTH OR THE SKY?
@@ElHerejeDelRock how do you apply this to a FE model? when do the stars suddenly start rotating opposite directions?
@Dr. Bas Ackwards whats the name of the video where you can see them moving 2 opposite directions?
Read all of Ezekiel chapter one it is a chapter about the wheels of beasts likened unto the wheels of the firmament the bible and the biblical cosmology is validated by this video.
Ezekiel 1:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.
The word firmament appears 4 times in this chapter
Ezekiel 1:22 King James Version (KJV)
22 And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.
Please be very careful when dismissing the bible and the creator God that authored it, as people who do this never factor in that the devil is the god of this fallen world and that he is way smarter and more cunning than people ever care to know, When you ignore, dismiss, blaspheme the Creator God, Satan is given a legal right to access you to blind you and give you confidence in your opinion you then think you have a handle on reality but you don't, you have simply been deceived by the false light of Lucifer. if you don't repent and turn and face God and have your blindness lifted and have your sins paid for by Jesus Christ perfect life death and resurrection you will only realise that the wool has been pulled over your eyes when you land in Hell then you will quickly sober up to reality of this horrific fallen world and that Adam and Eve unleased the most unimaginable horror by thinking it was a ever a good idea to cut out the Holy Creator God.
Remember the Devil is a weasel and cannot create anything Hell was created by God for the Devil and his angels and all the foolish humans that blindly follow him. The Devil can only reverse what God says and cover the truth in rings and rings of lies and half truths. I hope and pray that you really consider getting right with God as nothing you do in this fallen world has any value or meaning unless you get right with your Creator God. Take care God Bless
2 Corinthians 4:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Proverbs 14:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.
Proverbs 9:10 King James Version (KJV)
10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
@@kelvinmartin9545 don't shit here. keep your religious bs away
Impossible for these rotations if the earth was flat
True... although nobody is allowed on Antarctica... how the f did this person make a timelapse as if it was all rotating around a single point like polaris... and when he does that there are trees in front of it? Is this what it looks like in Australia or Argentina then?
@@ieder1een175 you don't have to be in Antarctica to see the south pole. you can simple be on a boat facing the "ice wall". if you are on the "east" side of the flat earth you would see the south pole on top of the "ice wall" rotating to the right. If you go on the west side, you would still see it on top of the "ice wall" rotating in the same direction... but you are facing in the complete opposite direction having a flat earth point of view... so they would appear to rotate in opposite directions if you are looking at things from above the dome, which is impossible with any kind of projections.
Basically you can have an infinite amount of locations along the "ice wall" and have an infinite amount of locations for the south pole on top of the "ice wall" around which the stars are rotating. So basically it's check mate FE.
false, this actually proves it's flat.
if the Earth is moving thousands of kilometres per second through the universe as you guys claim this means we should be seeing new stars everyday and not the same ones
@@abcdefxyz1239 you only see stars in the local cluster which are pretty close, and they move together in the same direction just like a stream in a river. They do tend to move slowly apart, but you need thousands of years to see a difference.
Podem enviar um link com imagem de Telescópio da Sigma Octantis ? Encontro da Polaris.
Great Video 👍🏾
What is the star in the middle called
The bright star in the middle of the North Celestial Pole is called Polaris (Alpha Ursae Minoris if we're being technical)
The extremely dim star in the middle of the South Celestial Pole is called Sigma Octantis (it wasn't important enough to get a cool name)
@@javierlatorre480erm, what the sigma?
Something is always seen in these timelapses: satellites darting through the sky, leaving straight trails between the circles of stars...so they are also a proof satellites do exist.
Satellites don’t glow the last time I checked!
@MI6
You can't see something as small as a satellite 400km away.
@MI6
Or the fake station.
@MI6
The Fake station was debunked years ago,get with the times!
sepertinya kebanyakannya itu adalah meteor,
susah bedain satelit n meteor..
sepertinya sih kalau cahayanya mengecil lalu menghilang, berarti itu meteor.. kalau cahayanya tetap, berarti satelit..
contoh nya di menit 1:14-1:15 , kmungkinan besar itu satelit lewat..
Why is no one talking about the converging stars?
Where?
hello C.R.C - that's multi directional to be sure. Thanks
Funny how the southern stars goes strait, beautiful clip
What video were you watching?
That was the stars as viewed from between the Tropics.
If the Earth were flat, the stars in the southern hemisphere would always move in a line parallel to the ground, and you would see them circling the entire surface until they came back to the same point. I live in Brazil and I've already filmed something similar to the one in the video, and it's a fact that Crux (Cruzeiro do Sul) revolves around the same point throughout the night. Again, if the Earth were not a sphere revolving around itself, Crux would never be visible to a fixed camera during a whole night, as it would move parallel to the horizon and make a turn behind the camera.
if the Earth were flat, you wouldn't see stars at all.
Filmou de que ponto do Brasil?
@@cultfriend São Paulo
If the Earth is a spinning ball rotating 1000 miles an hour, how do you explain the North Star being stationary and the other stars rotating around it? If the Earth were spinning, wouldn't the North Star also be moving across the sky overnight? But it doesn't. How do you explain this? How do you think the ancient navigators sailed their ships at night if the North Star moved?
@@johnnydasilveira9001 Polaris is aligned with the north pole of the Earth's axis, so it appears to be fixed at night, but it is not true that it has always been in the same position. Due to the precession of the equinoxes, the position of Polaris changes from year to year. Look for Thuban, which was the pole star in ancient Egypt and is now considerably distant from the North Pole. In fact, you should be more concerned with the South Pole than the North, since the mere existence of a South Celestial Pole dispels any possibility of a celestial dome existing.
our beautiful flat and motionless realm, thank you ❤️
Nope, nowhere close to flat
I'd love you to explain why we see stars rotate in opposite directions above and below the Equator.
This is the south pole😒
@@alexf962 I'd love for you to explain how satellites travel 500,000 with us and the sun
@@purebloodwithcommonsense3805 Your question is ridiculous. 50000 what? You can't even add a unit of measure? No wonder you fall for scams
this is true. south has also center star
+Serbian Conspiracy
Although Sigma Octantis is the closest star to the South celestial Cole... it is not exactly at the SCP.
And yes Eric Dubay is a liar and spreader of bullshit... but he's probably making great money from selling his books of lies and bullshit videos and living tax free in Thailand
speaking of thailand! thailand is almost near the equator. so eric can view most part of both northern and souther hemisphere! i bet he wont stop his BS cause his raking money on flat earth theory!
By the way Dubay lives near Bangkok which is about 13.7 degrees north of the equator.
I have just returned from Indonesia and was 8 degrees below the equator and there was no sign of Polaris.
So at 13.7 degrees north of the equator Dubay would not be able to see Sigma Octantis or dual star trails.
Not that I am supporting Dubay in any way ... he clearly lies until his pants are on fire about Polaris being able to be seen in the southern hemisphere. And it would be so easy for him to travel south of the equator... a plane trip from Bangkok to Bali ... is a mere 4 hour flight !!
He actually says that Polaris can be seen in the southern summer down to 23.5 degrees south ... an indication that he doesn't even understand that the celestial poles are directly above the north and south poles TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE TILT OF THE EARTH !!!!
yes eric should make footage of south star.....
Adaptive Logic The earth does not tilt, wobble or gyrate. If you think this proves or disproves anything, it's an assumption on your part. Maybe you also think two opposing pressure systems can exist side by side, i.e vacuum to non vacuum with no barrier in between. Are you also of the persuasion that you are spinning 1000mph at the equator while orbiting the sun at a whopping 65000mph while the sun itself is orbiting the centre of the milky way at 650000mph with no parralax within the stars we see? maybe you also think you can propel yourself in a vacuum too? All theoretical nonsense, and you probably buy it. I did. People who have had a serious look at true shape of our world have found flaw after flaw. We do not live on a sphere, and that can be proven. I wish you well on your journey, seriously, I do.
So beautiful
Brilliant stuff!
Flermin need to stop *conflating shape with motion (or lack thereof!).* While long exposure star trail timelapses don't necessarily demonstrate that earth 🌎 is in motion, *sidereal time* most certainly does. Whereas this precise video as well as the geometry of the enveloping equidistant celestial sphere *proves earth is spherical.* Hear me out... The ascension angle of both celestial poles above and below the horizon will always be identical, and perfectly correspond with the observer's latitude in degrees.
For instance at my latitude here in New Zealand at the *40th south parallel,* the SCP resides *40° above the horizon and Polaris is buried 40° beneath the horizon* in the opposite direction to the north.
There are *180 degrees between the poles* of any sphere by geometric necessity, and therefore *180 lines of latitude.* The distance between the poles of earth is 20,001.6 kilometers. 20,001.6 km / 180° = 111.12 km.
One degree of declination on the celestial sphere corresponds to one parallel line of latitude, which are 111.12 kilometers apart. *So one degree = 111.12 kilometers.* Therefore, I'd have to travel 111.12 km x 40° = 4,444.8 kilometers north to reach the equator and render Polaris just visible on the horizon, 0° in altitude.
To reconcile this pivot point on their model, flat earthers must vehemently deny and reject the existence of the SCP, with some citing that it's just a "void in the sky." For one, if the North Celestial Pole wasn't marked by it's close proximity to a bright star, would that in any way negate the existence of the geometric pivot point itself, let alone it's enduring position relative to nearby stars and circumpolar constellations? Nah bro 😂
This denial of the SCP is a knee-jerk reaction stemming from necessity I like to call the #PolarisNotReal fallacy, and is facilitated by their geographic privilege. Flermin can't see the SCP because of earth's rotundity... How convenient ;)
Meaning that by the same logic, I could just as easily validate the *south-orientated Azimuthal equidistant projection* placing Antarctica in the center because a fixed immovable SCP is what I observe, thereby lumping the burden of proof onto flermin as to the position of Polaris and the big dipper around the North Arctic ice wall... *And it would be equally valid.*
While I'll concede that at first glance, the SCP appears a relatively dim region of sky, a closer inspection with long exposure and the lack of light pollution will reveal that it's far from empty, *and is in fact full of light.*
If earth were flat, we here in the southern hemisphere would be the first to know and concede. Yet there are no flat earthers here, at least none that can't be set straight with a simple, rudimentary understanding of celestial mechanics and spherical astronomy. Go figure! *This speaks volumes.*
So to to all you flermin out there trying to dictate to me what I can and can't observe day in and day out all year round... Shut up. Piss off. And when you get there, PISS OFF again 😂😆
xD there is no "poles" gfu globecuck
What a load of nonsense, so you believe satellites move 450,000mph with us haha
@@purebloodwithcommonsense3805 So you can't even stick to one number?
@@javierlatorre480 seeing as it's all made up numpty, and you haven't provided evidence of hot air balloons travelling 459,000mph
@@javierlatorre480 la tierra es muy plana, hoy y manana, no hay curvutura
All flat heads that watch the sky live in Northern Hemisphere. Flat heads here in the south are afraid of watching the sky, and I REALLY know all the reasons why.
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Flattard conference in australia support that, only 3 showed up a journalist was one of them lol.
@@elonesnah Hahaha. Nice. It is more proof that flattards have no intention of looking at evidence that will disprove their hypothesis. They just want their fantasy Flat Earth to exist no matter what.
Shows a spin. Discs show the same sky view and shadow manifestation from any position on them, but sphere's do not.
@@VestigialHead The earth is flat. nasa in hebrew means "to deceive". if the earth is 93.697 miles far away from the sun and rotating around it while rotation every 24 hours around it self why does polaris and sigma octantis stars never move ?
@@andrewcameron6611 Mate I am not going to rise to your idiotic troll bait. You know very well that all of that is just nonsense.
30 FE cavemen can't time-lapse.
these cave men followed science, and science showed them that the earth is flat, i guess where you live or how you look doesn't really matter does it
@@penzalo4119 These cavemen followed science? Tell that a scientist.
Wait, ive got it. Someone measure exactly how many degrees it is between polaris and octantis. Is it exactly 180 or less than that?!!!! Is it around 90?
Hello i would contact you to use parts of yout video to make a video on mu channel :-) thank you !
Can I use this video in a video debunking the flat earth and proving Eric Dubay a shill?
Ladyboi needs money, leave him alone! :)
Eli S. Ramirez me asking if I could use someone’s content shows how desperate I am? I don’t think you know what the word desperate means. Also it does prove the shape of the earth, because a flat earth cannot have two poles, and this video clearly shows that the earth has two poles; a South Pole and a North Pole. However since you don’t know what desperate means I wouldn’t be surprised if you don’t know what a pole means either
Eli S. Ramirez th-cam.com/video/94hgPY7K5Vs/w-d-xo.html here is a video that explains it for you, and shows how Eric straight up lied about the southern star trails
Eli S. Ramirez i made one video about him a few years ago, and you claim I’m trying sO hArD to debunk him. Please, you are clearly not a very sensible person... probably why you believe the earth is flat
Eli S. Ramirez oh, and you’re an idiot for not realizing how these star trails do in fact show the shape of the earth. Even Eric Dubay’s model has to try to make it appear like the southern star trails don’t exist... because he knows how damaging they are to his and any other flat earth model
Nice video! AND... it totally debunk the flat earth theory..😂.
Sorry dumbo this cannot work on a globe if its rotating - who is repeatedly adjusting the camera? :D
The problem I have is the stationary position of the north star while the sun gains and loses heighth while the north star doesn't move. Which, is impossible. If the sun is stationary and the earth wobbles to constitute the seasons, the north star would be bring the amount of degrees the sun moves in the summer and winter. It wouldn't remain stationary. There are several phenomenon that can occur to constitute such things. But me only believing what I can prove I will never know. Because I'm lazy.
You are not only lazy, but also dumb, and arrogant for thinking you know better than people who understand it much better thatn you do.
The problem, for you, is that you blindly believe that "North star" is stationary, although we can actually observe its motion, even on this time lapse video.
Another problem is the fact that change of position of the Sun on the sky is governed by the fact that Earth axis of rotation is angled at 23°, while Earth is orbiting around the Sun without changing its orientation in relation to space.
If you had some basic physics knowledge, and a little bit of intelligence, you could easily understand it.
The seasons aren't caused by the earth wobbling, the earth is tilted a constant 23.5°, which causes it to point toward Polaris. That tilt is always in the same direction, currently toward Polaris, but as the earth rotates around the sun the direction of that tilt relative to the sun changes, which is what causes the seasons.
If the star seen at 0:50 is Polaris, what would the star seen at 3:10 be?
The star around which all the others are revolving clockwise is Sigma Octantis, which is the southern celestial pole.
I think it's sigma octopuntis or some BS like that
@@pyrefly7575 ?
Acts 7:49 ESV 49 “‘Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. What kind of house will you build for me, says the Lord, or what is the place of my rest?
This video alone disproves flat earth. Do a bit of thinking flat earth people.
If they could think for themselves, they wouldn't be flat earthers in the first place.
Hint: If we were on a flat Earth, this photo time lapse could be recorded from below centre of flat earth, and no where else.
@@max5250 spot on..
@@max5250not at all, because just see north rotation, if was flat never have rotation from the south , that is the right question!
FLAT EARTH
Where though
@@javierlatorre480Under your feet
I love how flat heads claim this is fake. But it's so real. lol
But how does this video prove conclusively that you're living on a globe?
Peter Peterson Two points of rotation in the sky. both seem to be rotating both clockwise and counter clockwise. Can't happen on a flat earth.
Where is your scientific evidence supporting your claim that two points of rotation cannot happen on a flat earth? I'd be very interested to read/see it. Thanks!!
Peter Peterson just look at every flat earth model. all had Polaris as the one point of rotation. even if you try it for yourself with a plate. try to replicate what your see here. And the results won't equal what reality is. this is only possible on a roundish earth.
Peter Peterson and why would the southern hemisphere only see one point and the northern see the other point?
What's more important to note is that if we were spinning, orbiting and hurtling at mach crazy horse, why would that star be there tmrw?
Because God did not lie when He said the Earth is fixed and cannot be moved.
The stars appear to remain where they are in the celestial sphere because they are really far away. But the reality of the situation is that they have parallax throughout the year, and we can measure that parallax to determine how far away they are. We also have ways of determining how fast they move in space. And this is not mentioning supernovae, in other words, the fact that stars can die.
When stuff is so far away, it doesnt appear to move. If that effect is visible on mere mountains here on earth, itll be much stronger on stars that are literal lightyears from us
@@doodoo2065 Nonsense because they have not changed one iota for millennia. That's why we still have multiple temples in perfect alignment with stars and people still practising astrology. The stars are for signs and seasons says God. Nothing changes. Believing you can see something measured by light years just proves your imagination has been cast into outer darkness by the mass weapon of deception that is NASA. Which means to deceive or lead astray.
@@PropertyofJesus777 People knew all this stuff way before NASA was established in 1958. Barnard's star, discovered in 1916, moves so fast you can see the change in position every year. The pole star in the time of ancient Egypt was Thuban, not Polaris. In the centuries before and after the birth of Christ, there was no pole star. This was documented by the Greek navigator Pytheas in 320 BC, and later by the Romans. NASA has nothing to do with any of this.
@@stephenh5944 The 5 armed services pillars say you're wrong. And there are people still alive who were taught flat earth in school. Before the occult came along and rolled out their past perversions into mainstream. If you are COVID jabbed then don't argue about anything. It sounds like you only believe the narrative.
I tell ya...
It sure don't look like it should look from Australia, the apparent movement of the earth at our feet around sigma octantis
How should it look ???
Can you please re-title the video to "FLAT EARTH DEBUNKED in 5 minutes"? Thanks xD
Jep! 👍👍👍👍👍
Jeb! and jv, YES.... only trouble is, most flatties aren't intelligent enough to comprehend what's going on here.
How so debunked in 5mnutes??? Where's the evidence star trails of this nature cannot be observed on a flat earth?? On the same token, where is the evidence the earth is a globe?? Observations such as the above do not prove the earth is a globe!
To think the earth is a globe based on observations presented in the above video is ridiculous! What a joke! And then we have to ASSUME the information presented in the video is accurate and true!
Unless the "dome" has two or more sections, you ain't gonna get diverging rotations..
and, for just the latest FE decimation, see Shawn Hufford's latest FE decimation th-cam.com/video/x-uS0B1lLnw/w-d-xo.html
Roger until you have proven that the star trails (if true and rotate in said directions), cannot work on a flat earth then the info in the above video and within the linked video in your comment is only conjecture!
How you going to achieve that? Ask Brian Cox for some evidence? It's rubbish!
Flat earthers are the perfect example of the dunning kruger effect. You see some youtube videos and feel you've learned something. When in fact, you don't even know enough about the subject to realize what you don't know.
How is it possible for the stars to revolve around our head horizontally and the moon and sun spin and set vertically ?
Because the axis of rotation of the earth points in that direction
James Boudreaux the sun appears to spiral up and down the ecliptic in a year.....you moon does this circuit in roughly 28 days....the stars spin around a fixed earth never deviating north or south..they travel in a fixed path in the sky ..measure a star and you'll find it takes 23hrs56mins to return to its position in the sky. the moon takes about 24hrs50mins to cross a north south line in the sky...forgot what the sun is.
James Boudreaux
the bodies actually rise diagonally from mid latitudes.
only vertically from the tropics and horizontally from the arctics.
The Sun and Moon appear to move along vertical paths only from the Equator.
Mid-latitudes see diagonal motion of stars near the celestial equator.
Polaris is only overhead from the North Pole.
That was totally awesome
HEY what is first rotation and what is 2 rotation?
1st Northern Hemisphere
2nd Southern Hemisphere.
@@kelduck8851 THE NORTHERN STARS ARE TRAVELLING ANTICLOCKWISE THE SOUTHERN CLOCKWISE proving the earth is stationary not flat but stationary
flat earthers mad
if you can see the same sky from both hemispheres the earth clearly isnt a sphere idiot
Great! Flat earth debunked in one video. I wish some commenters would stop saying Christians are flat earthers though. I’m Christian & I love science & space research. I’m sick of flatards infesting every space video comments section. I know the earth is a spinning ball by observation & common sense, as do all my scientifically interested friends at church. There’s no justification for equating all Christians with flat or dome earthers.
correction your a christian who love scientists and science fiction, if you really love science (true science that is self evident) you would simply become a flat earther, also point me where god said the earth is a globe in the bible please
Dark ages people, in a wrong era.
Frank Hern from the beginning of humanity, up until 50 years ago, everyone believed that the earth is flat, it wasn't until space agencies faked space travels when re- sorry people started believing the earth to be a ball sack flying in vecuum, here is a challange for you lad, if you could prove to me that the earth is moving in space, then i'll become a globe earther
@@penzalo4119 Can you show me what your bibble has to say about Madagascar, Vietnam, Svalbard, Greenland, Yellowstone, New Zealand, the isthmus of Panama, Volcán Cayambe, Tierra del Fuego, bacteriophages, Creuzfeld-Jakob Disease, cirrostratus cloud formation, lamellar airflows, aluminium, radioactive decay, atomic emission spectra, electromagnets, optical density, the duck-billed platypus, the mid-Atlantic rift, Hawaii, kangaroos, ocelots, laminated glass, bakelite, Eratosthenes, Finland, magnesium and Jennifer Connelly?
@@penzalo4119 flat earth deny science..
The Earth is Proven Flat!
The video that you’re commenting under proves that it isn’t flat.
@@JohnHazenhousen Space is fake! The Earth is Flat.
@@feforscher No, neither of things are true. You’re just stupid.
How though
Sorry Jonny boy, it actually proves the earth is flat… if you don’t know by now, you just refuse to believe the truth… and that sir makes you stupid. Lol no offense
Video show only one movement earth - axis. Where is movement earth orbit sun? Where is movement solar system universe?
The arcs seen are about the same as the arc between two markings on a clock face. As a clock's hour hand goes round twice per day and the Earth only once, that's about two hours of rotation. In two hours, the Earth rotates 30.0821° and goes 0.0794411° (December) to 0.0849458° (June) around the Sun and the solar system goes 0.0000000003571186° around the galaxy. Your frame of reference for the Earth's rotation is *all* the stars. Your frame of reference for the Earth's orbit around the Sun is the *nearest* relative to the *furthest* visible stars. Your frame of reference for the galaxy's rotation is the stars relative to other galaxies in the background. Which do you expect to be able to see?
looking at the timelapse shots, the stars seem to form the shape of a cone.
Cone or flat earth dome
@@chrisperkins8647 Yeah, looks like this, even though there is no dome and Earth is not flat.
There is a reason the observable stars in the sky are named "the celestial sphere" and a reason there are two celestial poles, one in the north, one in the south.
@@daddy3982 Agreed 👍 This precise video as well as the geometry of the enveloping equidistant celestial sphere proves earth is spherical. Hear me out... The ascension angle of both celestial poles above and below the horizon will always be identical, and perfectly correspond with the observer's latitude in degrees.
For instance at my latitude here in New Zealand at the *40th south parallel,* the SCP resides *40° above the horizon and Polaris is buried 40° beneath the horizon* in the opposite direction to the north.
There are *180 degrees between the poles* of any sphere by geometric necessity, and therefore *180 lines of latitude.* The distance between the poles of earth is 20,001.6 kilometers. 20,001.6 km / 180° = 111.12 km.
One degree of declination on the celestial sphere corresponds to one parallel line of latitude, which are 111.12 kilometers apart. *So one degree = 111.12 kilometers.* Therefore, I'd have to travel 111.12 km x 40° = 4,444.8 kilometers north to reach the equator and render Polaris just visible on the horizon, 0° in altitude.
To reconcile this pivot point on their model, flat earthers must vehemently deny and reject the existence of the SCP, with some citing that it's just a "void in the sky." For one, if the North Celestial Pole wasn't marked by it's close proximity to a bright star, would that in any way negate the existence of the geometric pivot point itself, let alone it's enduring position relative to nearby stars and circumpolar constellations? Nah bro 😂
This denial of the SCP is a knee-jerk reaction stemming from necessity I like to call the #PolarisNotReal fallacy, and is facilitated by their geographic privilege. Flermin can't see the SCP because of earth's rotundity... How convenient ;)
Meaning that by the same logic, I could just as easily validate the *south-orientated Azimuthal equidistant projection* placing Antarctica in the center because a fixed immovable SCP is what I observe, thereby lumping the burden of proof onto flermin as to the position of Polaris and the big dipper around the North Arctic ice wall... *And it would be equally valid.*
While I'll concede that at first glance, the SCP appears a relatively dim region of sky, a closer inspection with long exposure and the lack of light pollution will reveal that it's far from empty, *and is in fact full of light.*
If earth were flat, we here in the southern hemisphere would be the first to know and concede. Yet there are no flat earthers here, at least none that can't be set straight with a simple, rudimentary understanding of celestial mechanics and spherical astronomy. Go figure! *This speaks volumes.*
So to to all you flermin out there trying to dictate to me what I can and can't observe day in and day out all year round... Shut up. Piss off. And when you get there, PISS OFF again 😂😆
I think it’s possible that the earth is a sphere, with high mountains and low valleys and a lot of water staying in those valleys.
I also think it's possible the earth rotates around the sun, but at 66,600 mph? I don't believe that, and the moon rotates around the earth? how fast is the moon moving? And why isn't the moon spinning?
What I can't believe is the earth, while rotating around the sun, also is spinning on invisible magnetic energy fields, from west to east, at 1,000 mph, at the equator, and o at the north and south poles, and, our collective solar system; sun, and planets and moons, are flying through infinite space at 550,000 mph, and our galaxy is moving through space at 2,237,000 mph.
How can we view stars millions of miles away stuck in our night sky for centuries?
Do all stars fly through space along side with our solar system and galaxy?
And are we as a collective solar system, and galaxy, traveling north, south, east, or west?
Set aside the flat earth debate, explain the Earth's west to east spin at over 1,000 mph at equator and 0 mph at the poles and 700 mph at the Tropic of Cancer and Tropic of Capricorn, at 23 degrees, and how the atmosphere moves with the Earth.
How is the atmosphere, which is a gas, and the Earth which is a solid, and the water, which is a liquid, all moving at the same speed as one body?
And if the atmosphere is a gas, how is it different from other gases like wind from hurricanes or simple directional breezes?
You answered your own question but I don’t think you want to accept it, flat earth is the answer
@@Sealedservant sometimes the answer is hidden within the question, and there is always more to learn and innerstand. we humans are limited in our ability to know the depths of our spiritual reality and our material reality, the complete knowing of our reality is never going to be realized while we are in our mortal perishable human bodies, we will know all things when we receive our eternal resurrected bodies. the spiritual world is not only all around us, it is existing and overlapping our material world, and the spiritual entities good and evil, are able to manifest themselves in our world, but we cannot fully manifest ourselves in their world. summary; time, space and everything within it, is unknowable. so forget the debate of round earth vs. flat earth, and consider other possibilities. talk to Jesus often and His Holy Spirit will teach you all you need to know. Peace and Maranatha.
@@ExtremePacifist everything you mentioned makes more sense on a flat earth. space does not exist, at least not how we’re told
@@Sealedservant go deeper... think "matrix" as in not comprehensible to our limited ability to grasp complete reality. the more you wonder and consider all possibilities, the more your mind can expand. try to break free of choosing the first two choices they have presented to you, and then your awareness increases. let's try a few other possibilities and see where that takes us.
@@ExtremePacifist my mind has already been expanded 100% that my third eye is opened
so, the anti clockwise rotation is northern hemisphere and clockwise is southern hemisphere, is that correct ?
just like water going down a drain :p
Bring your arms out to your sides, make your hands fists, and rotate them in " over " position in circles in the same direction. Look to your left arm and you'll see it going Counter/Anti Clockwise. Look to your right arm and you'll see it going Clockwise.
Notice though they're going in the same direction. You're just flipping your Point of View ( PoV ) 180*.
Yes the Anti-Clockwise motion is the Northern Hemisphere. Right from the getgo of this video @ 0:10 you can see the Andromeda Galaxy on the very right side in the middle area. Notice the thing that looks like a bright star with 2 fuzzy tails on the right and left side of it. That's actually the Andromeda Galaxy and the " starry " middle is the bright galactic bulge center.
The Andromeda Galaxy is difficult to see in the Southern Hemisphere because its' declination is +41*North which means it can only be seen skimming the horizon in New Zealand in the Winter months ( I mean Southern Hemisphere Winter not Northern Hemisphere Winter :P ).
The 2 patches of " clouds " @ 2:43 are the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds, which are Milky Way satellite galaxies. They cannot be seen in most of the Northern Hemisphere as they're very close to the Southern Celestial Pole.
the backwards rotation is only from the observer's point of perspective on the ground if you go to the southern hemisphere the Stars travel from east to west just like everything else this guy is completely manipulated this to fool people you can tell by the placement of the Milky Way the Milky Way sets right next to Polar is what he did was flipped the orientation 180 degrees and made it out to be the southern hemisphere that's why there's edits that cut the scenes... you can see where the line start to straighten out well if he would have kept going you would see nothing but Stars traveling horizontally along the horizon he intentionally did this to manipulate this
Ryan wyrick But there's two different points of rotation... The southern hemisphere set of stars seem to rotate the opposite direction is because the observer is flipped on their y axis. which would cause by being on the other side of a globe, or roundish earth. Even the auroras create two circles around the celestial poles. not possible on a flat earth.
Ryan Wyrick That is completely wrong. The Milky Way, Large Magellanic Clouds and Small Magellanic Clouds are exactly where they're suppose to be. That's not even the galactic center. It's the " right " side of the Milky Way. The camera goes into star trail mode before the galactic center even rises.
As I already said, you cannot even see the Large and Small Magellanic clouds from the Northern Hemisphere and the galactic center is only visible low to the Southern horizon in the Northern Hemisphere during the Summer months.
You will NEVER see the Milky Way galaxy pass all the way overhead in the Northern Hemisphere.
It's convenient for flat earthers to call things like this CGI, because they don't want to believe. Just go do this "experiment" your self. See how wrong you are.
YoMamaJiggle if you can't verify. Then you trust those who can. Not one person. But when scientific consensus is overwhelmingly in favor you do. Especially when there isn't a single real scientist who believes in a flat Earth. Not that I've ever heard. Uncle Mike in the back yard who says so because it doesn't make sense to him isn't a real source. Science isn't perfect. But it tries it's best. And makes changes to better our understanding not worsen them. And what would a flat Earth do for us? This argument comes down to religion. If the Bible is true then the earth is flat. It's emotionally driven. Not reality driven.
All that can't be explained by them, they call CGI, fraud, illusion, fake, frenzy
"I don't know how to explain it in a flat earth, better call it fake"
Can you please, show me ONE proof that rockets cant work in a vacuum. Any one who has ever actually done this, the evidence shows rockets work BETTER in a vacuum. So... some evidence would be nice.
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Do have any links to the vacuum & rocket 🚀 working better ??? I've only seen fans don't work in a vacuum...
@@Mor2gain_760 simple logic. If rockets work in a vacuum at all, then it stands to reason that reduced gravity and no air resistance would mean the rocket has less to overcome, aka no air resistance or friction.
Can you indicate the time in the video for the southern hemisphere startrails?
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PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!! Lol wow dude!
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Lol I think y missed my point. You're saying pay no attention to the video, but that's only going to make people more curious. If people are posting in the comments section, then they've already seen the video, and they can take it or leave it. You are just trying to tell people what to do, and when you do that, most people will just do the opposite of what you say.
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Someone doing the opposite of what you say isn't an indication that they will notice how they can be fooled into believing something is real. But I think most people are probably already aware of the fact that they can be fooled.
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Nope! Don't want a cookie. I'm not taking a side on this matter, just sitting on the fense observing.
+Bright Starzz
I guess for you to say this video is fake you must be an expert in CGI and animation. So with all of your knowledge could you please point out to me in CGI and animation terms exactly what makes it fake?
Because personally I think you are fake !!
I'll have to do this test myself, because it's not hard to reverse the time lapse and make it appear as if the stars are rotating in the opposite direction.
But the stars are different dumbass.
Don't forget that in the video of the southern hemisphere, there is also a completely different set of stars and constellations than the northern hemisphere. That is another dead giveaway that it is truly filmed in the southern hemisphere.
one of the most fascinating things about this phenomenon that is over looked is the fact that they all move in a fixed orbit. if we are hurtling through space then they would also move in two planes one around and the other away. they wouldn't fully rotate in a perfect circle. can't make sense of this. i understand that this shows the rotation but still looks like a fixed system moving together.
LowTech Tank
But do you understand that those stars are lighyears away and that out motion around the sun has almost no effect on it?
we are supposedly moving around the sun and the sun is moving around the galaxy yet the same formations of stars have been in the same positions for over 10,000 years of recorded history. seen by all who looked up and observed and recorded them. i don't see that it is possible if all are scattered about moving at untold speeds in all directions. it is irrelevant as far as distance. if they are in 3d them they should be in different positions as we travel from one side of the sun to the other. the alignments of objects in 3d separated by distance will change realation when observed from another angle or view point. just some questions i still have
All the stars that are observable are actually our neighbours from 1 arm of the Milky way and are travelling at a similar velocity and direction. Our Milky way has a structure, it doesnt have every star moving in random directions.
Nevertheless the constellations are changing due to relative star movement over 10 000 years and here is one of many sites.
www.wired.com/2015/03/gifs-show-constellations-transforming-150000-years/
Nearby stars have had there distance calculated by using parallax.
LowTech Tank
You realize stars don't just go in random directions? They all follow the path in the same direction as us and the stars we see, go approximately the same speed as us. And distance DOES have a big role in it. Greater the distance, smaller the parallax.
they don't follow the earth they follow the sun and we follow it. so the stars should move relative to the sun not the earth and therefore would show a wobble or a side ways streak as we are rotating and traveling around the sun at the same time.
Oh a flat earth debunking video!
mUsT bE cGi!!!!111!!!!
@Eli S. Ramirez then you're kinda stupid
@@johnjacob9262 Stars are light years away. Trillions of km.
sure doesn’t look like we’re falling backwards on a spinning ball .. seems like the universe is orbiting around us, the centre of the universe, and the home of God’s children
What would "falling backwards on a spinning ball" look like to you?
Still waiting for an answer
the sky literally rotates in the opposite direction in the south than it does in the north. makes no sense on a flat earth. makes perfect sense on the ball earth.
What is this, 15th century?
There is absolutely 0 proof of any sort of god existing lol
Cant believe we still have cultists go this day
Anyone that thinks earth is flat needs to watch this
Why are those trails circular? Shouldn’t they be oval? Also the ones on the edge seem to be coming up from the horizon. Doesn’t look like “perspective” to me. Hey, maybe the sun does set after all.
Why would they be oval?
@@JohnHazenhousen Well, they'd be oval if they were on a ceiling a few thousand miles up. Unless you were directly underneath them, you'd be looking up at them at an angle. The fact that they are not oval suggests that they aren't on a ceiling, but in space.
flat earthers say its cgi
@Thandon Baker Of course they'd say that. If earth were flat we here in the southern hemisphere would be the first to know and concede. *Yet there are fuck all flermin here.* Go figure. This speaks volumes! It's why flermin lie, kick, scream and cry as they dodge, squirm and evade the topic like the fucking plague lol. It's downright embarrassing. And the armchair experts north of the equator in America that attempt to tell me there is no south celestial pole, desperately attempting to dictate to me what I observe day in and day out all year round is literally akin to someone in Australia stomping their feet in a tantrum outright rejecting the existence of Mount Everest because they have never seen it...
While trying to convince someone in *Nepal* who is living under it's shadow to get on board with their beliefs, and expecting them to agree!! 🤣
It's asinine.
flat-earthers are cgi.
waiting for the flat earthers to change ALL of their theories AGAIN to try to jam ANOTHER convoluted explanation how EVEN MORE PROOF that the earth is round is somehow proof of flat earth due to another asinine explanation that ignores physics, common sense, and basic reality.
Why wait? Just sort by Newest and scroll
looks like the stars are spinning around 1 star. If we were rotating and spinning around the sun wouldnt the trails be all over the place ? how is it a perfect circle ?
ECHO RTH we r talking about stars. they're so far away. so it won't matter. it's parallax. like the moon or sun follows you.
almarjyou False.
ECHO RTH if you are to do the same with the moon. rotate and move. it will make a perfect circle
ECHO RTH
That's how far the stars are.
Farther things show less parallax than closer things.
Sun apparently moves along the ecliptic, not celestial equator.
unfl4tt3r3rd That's a bunch of ballshit
Muy hermoso video de las estrellas desde el polo norte al polo sur
Thank you ❤❤❤