Comparison : Subaru Forester v BMW X1 | CarAdvice Drive
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Bringing the 2016 Subaru Forester XT Premium and 2016 BMW X1 sDrive 20i together for a head-to-head gunfight isn’t quite as left field as it might seem. Pricing is close - only $3610 between the starting prices - and both are positioned as affordable family SUVs at the smaller end of the scale.
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I own an XT, the visibility is the BEST. Huge glass area up front, low side window, and large quarter glass on c-pillar is really good. 15.000 km ongoing and not a single problem on my car. Turbocharged Boxer, AWD, perfect SUV :)
tokekkk . .
I have an XT too! 250hp, double roll bars, reinforced steel in the doors, panoramic roof! I could go on n on!
Yeah and how many Head gaskets have blown up ? 🤣
@@Nun6566 nah man, it's a big problem in other years and models. I researched it before I made the purchase and found out how big and absurd that problem was and is.. How can their engineering be so good and pathetic at the same time and allow it to go on.
@@Nun6566 FA20 engines are considered a newer generation of Subaru engines, the head gasket problems are in the past EJ engine.
Forrester is the one for me! Anyone who has ever owned a subaru will not drive anything which is not AWD! I love my Subary Liberty....
the Xdrive is better than the sDrive and all Subaru drive trains
agree 100% if you drive subaru once... you will not swap this car to anything else.
i own Forester. i would never swap it with an ugly bmw
Let's see, Subaru is cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain and repairs, awd for better grip, it has great ratings in the IIHS crash test, it's roomier, has a smoother ride and Subaru has the best resale of any car manufacturer. Unless you want to impress people and throw money away, Subaru is the right choice. I love my 09 Forester!
A gm id love a forester, but bit out my league at mo.
A gm I have the 10 Forester and long trips sucks. The seats are terrible. Only complaint.
Subaru impresses plenty of people where I'm from ;) My whole family owns Subarus and the trend has caught on in the States here in the past few years. Outbacks are much more popular though.
A Subaru is still relatively expensive to maintain. Cost a lot more then a Honda. Using ur logic, u might as well get a Honda cr-v
The CR-V is a great option, especially since the new generation came out in 2017. We have a 2001 Forester we've been driving since 2004, and since we've loved that car so much, we'll probably stick with the same model when we replace it. The Forester is still considered a great option by reviewers, especially those who share our priorities (safe; reliable; great visibility; pleasant in the city and on the interstate; good in the snow; intuitive to operate; holds a lot of stuff). But the CR-V is the one contender we can't seem to rule out. It ticks those boxes, too, and pleases the same reviewers, as well as some of those who aren't wild about the Forester.
In New Jersey we recently bought a new '16 XT Touring for $35k. The best car purchase we've made as a family. The X1 is $45 in our neck of the woods and after visiting a few BMW dealerships we vowed not to return - experience wasn't very pleasant.
I vote for X1 though
You guys really did a very good job (for me) in doing a brief but very informative review on different cars. 👍👍
That all wheel drive saved my life a few weeks ago. I nodded out while driving on a back road from Las Vegas and two wheel went off the road. I would have rolled the car if it had not been all wheel drive.
+Larry Richelli You know that all-wheel drive vehicles are identical to two-wheel drive vehicles without a torque load?
The idea that AWD makes cars safer is a total dillusion
Your are full of you know what. Try to tell the engineers at Audi this. They would laugh in your face!
They would agree with me I'm sure. AWD only improves grip from a standstill and not much more.
+Boris Mihaylov dude you have not the slightest idea.
I love that you actually committed to a choice in the end!! Bravo, so many reviews end up sitting on the fence.
Subaru is a bigger car so of course it weighs more. and if the BMW had AWD it wouldn't struggle with torque steer so much, and you'd be surprised where you can go with a Subaru, the only thing you need is a good quality sump guard and a good set of all terrains.
71k miles on my '14 Forester XT...zero regrets...enjoyed every mile and looking forward to much more!
That's a lot of miles....
I know this a 9 month old comment but how is it still holding up, specially the CVT? That's my only reservation about the Forester is the CVT is the only option on the XT 2.0 models.
I'm at 110k miles now. My car has been bone stock no modifications. I replaced rear wheel bearings at 94k miles (no biggie). I did have a hiccup with the CVT at 89k miles: a solenoid in the valve body began intermittently failing [but I had the dealership change the high torque transmission fluid at 65k for no reason other than I wanted it done - the service schedule says transmission is lifetime fluid unless I tow which I never do] Anyway, I called SOA about it back then and they actually had a TSB out about the CVT issue and I had the repair done for free...at 89k miles! It would've been a $2k repair. It's still warrantied also until July 2018 with unlimited mileage .. amazing customer service from Subaru. And the car is still a joy, no regrets!
That all wheel drive saved my life a few weeks ago. I nodded out while driving on a back road from Las Vegas and two wheel went off the road. I would have rolled the car if it had not been all wheel drive. Also in the USA the BMW is almost 10K more than the XT.
Glad to see the review doesn't bias on brand name. I'm sure that if you include reliability + resale value, there won't be competition between the two.
You guys make much better videos than your subscriber count would suggest. Keep up the great work.
Cheers Andrew - get the word out!
i love the awd from subaru. and its very useful to me everyday. I travel from different islands and when getting on to the ferry, usually theres and inclined ramp. most fwd or rwd cars skid from the steel ramp. my forester just climbs like its nothing
Recently I did purchase my 2nd Subaru Forester XT. I exchanged my 2013 & 150M km for 2017 & 44M km mileage model. Having driven so many different models of cars, I find Subaru Forester XT to be real gem of a car. Having watched the movie I was sure of the outcome. Subaru rules..
Hi I bought last month a 2013 Xt with 100 k on the clock. Is there much difference with 2017 one ?? Also have you taken yours off road??
@@bineeshmathew07 , hi, there are only a few: slightly stiffer/sporty suspension; better glass thus more quiet inside. In comparison with my old XT I have now sunroof and keyless ignition. Otherwise it is my good, old, reliable Forester XT..
personally when I see an x1 on the road all is see is someone buying a bmw for the badge its quite sad really.
Thats what I think when I see a Mercedes CLA.
ur mentality is actually so sad lmao
You're not sad you're just jealous lmao
So true! why buy a shit bmw when you can something so much better
Vaetist H jealous about an x1? hahahhahaha
definitely the subaru is the mature choice. it is also more reliable according to statistics.
+Mr. Pugsalot Every car has its problems and that includes Subarus. However, and based on many statistics and reports that you can find online, Subarus are one of the most reliable cars.
+Mr. Pugsalot you're just plain stupid, reliability subaru outstand your bmw, they're only good when they're new give a 4-5 yrs & you're screwed European parts are just expensive than the value of the car in 5yrs time, plus resale value with bmw has a lot of depreciation, comparrs on subaru has still a high resal value even tho its 5 or 10yrs old, plus parts are pretty affordable than a bmw.
+Alexander aguirre I will rather buy a Japanese car instead of a Continental car
+Mr. Pugsalot you're not thinking again, bmw doesn't have a long wait for order, subaru itll take you 3months but its worth the wait, plus subaru has the highest resale value amongst its competitor, you can check it yourself.you see alot of bmw is because bmw didn't change their design at all, a 2001 bmw just look the same as the new ones today.
+Alexander aguirre actually today's video from youtube channel TFLNow (USA) just stated that Subaru has the highest resale value and there is high demand on them. You can check this yourself on that channel Mr. Pugsalot.
Great video. Very fun to watch and informative. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
lol, the most interesting part of this for me was later in the review when they started talking about the road test. The Subie is quieter, rides more nicely, and is MORE refined than the BMW? What a damning assessment for a car which its badge would have you believe is something like the standard of the world.
Great comparison. I just want to ask whats the deal with the X1s exhaust system?
I've driven behind a number of them and noticed that the right tail pipe looks like its blocked off and only the left one is open. Is this a fake exhaust or does it open automatically? Thanks!
"Lugging around an AWD system that you don't need day to day." Overly subjective and wrong. The symmetrical AWD System [according to the owners I know - including myself] provides a value on a day by day/drive by drive basis.
I usually see FWD cars spin their wheels when they accelerate at a green light. That never happens in awd cars. I use my awd system every day!
On a wet and windy road/highway - symmetrical AWD system is miracle. It's always put a smile on my face each time my Fozy passed those front wheel/rear wheel drive system.
It's just because those front/rear system could not keep up to the limit under those wet and windy condition.
Missing air vents from the back seat , it's not a big deal, as I find the air circulation inside the cabin is working quite well, sufficient and comfort on those hot and humidity days in Australia.
So what, you think you'll die if your tires give out a chirp?
Symmetrical AWD feels good to drive. I think Subaru nailed it with confidence in motion.
And I live in Norway so I see plenty of WET, ICY, SNOWY, MUDDY, SLOSHY AND SHIT BROKEN POT HOLE ROADS and hills.
Studded tires + AWD = magic.
No way In hell Ill trade confidence, traction and magic for a bit of economy. lol. :)
+Boris Mihaylov Likely not, certainly won't help if the lawmen hear it. FWD/RWD has a lot of disadvantages. Cornering, braking, accelerating, all are hampered from the drivetrain bias.
A really nice review, guys! Thank you!
Your review nailed the differences between the two cars (I tried the BMW X1 with AWD and found its dynamics inferior to the Forester, despite costing nearly $10K more.). FYI the Forester trim you tested is similar to the USA's "XT Limited" (top of the line Forester).
The trim level naming conventions for many automakers don't flow through globally like many name badges do. Their "Premium" is the US "Touring" while the US "Premium" is their flat out Forester XT base model. You'll notice that with Canada for instance that it goes base, touring, (sport for legacy), limited. It's an annoying worldly quirk.
I swear I’m the only one who actually likes the new look of the forester
I changed my 06 plate for a 16 plate. I love it...
Excellent review. Knocks my bmw out of my head. And probably saved me lots of maintenance headache.
Love my 2013 (2014 spec) XT . Best all round vehicle and it tows pretty well too. Very nice get up and go especially if you floor it or engage Sport or Sport Sharp modes!
dear sir, what kind of Gasoline for Subaru Forester XT (octane 93 or 95)? Thanks .
Is there no All-wheel-drive X1 in the US available? And you cannot get the bigger screen an seatheating? strange....
great comparison guys thank you! A little side by side acceleration or mini drag race would have made this a fantastic comparison!
Did you look under the seats for the air vents? I've got the air vents at the back in 1997 model.....
Need for AWD is 100% subjective and based on where you live. I live in Wisconsin and my first 3 vehicles were FWD. first time I drove and AWD Subaru I was blown away at how much grip and confidence it gave me. Just bought a ‘17 Forester xt premium and I rly enjoy it. My version of star link is kinda junk if you want to use maps and some of the fancier apps, but connects to Bluetooth easily. Safety, reliability, resale value, “offroad” capability, and visibility are what I look for, not bells and whistles
Anyone who buys an SUV that isn't AWD or 4x4 shouldn't buy an SUV. They should buy a hatchback or wagon. The entire point of SUV's is the ability to take snow and dirt better than their car counterparts.
Or how about you shut the fuck up and understand some people want just more room for people and cargo space?
Or how about you shut the fuck up and understand that many wagons offers the same space a pathetic FWD small SUV can offer... Just look for most Europeans wagon models and you'll see it... Buying a SUV with no 4WD system is simply a waste of money...
nobody asked you bitch
WtrDogg20 totally agree
Buying an SUV is a waste of time period, get a wagon or hatchback with AWD or buy a pickup.
Second gen (2.5XT or 2.5STI) still the best ever performing Forester. Lightest & most powerful plus manual gearbox.
One thing i absolutely love is driving behind a Subaru Forester with a COEXIST bumper sticker and a "i love my Korgi" bumper sticker going 10mph under the speed limit. LOVE!
good job guys - enjoyed the short! All good talking points.
Thanks Tito - cheers for watching!
+CarAdvice.com You did a really good job to perform select one of the worlds most boring most car at the cost of some pizza and cheesburgere . You must be Americans !
I cache another word for no resale value? If you are in it to get the most vehicle and least anything else its impossible to top the Forester. Check back in ten years. It will be on the road.
Subarus are the best!
Agree. I'll take the XT (Hell, I'll even take the Outback) over the X1 any day.
+Diwa Galvez 😄😄
In that comparison,although some would say i am biased,judging from my avatar,i would not even think twice before taking the BMW. Let me explain why. The X1 is one of the ugliest SUV"s on the market. Also one of the least off road capable of. Subaru"s off road skills,practicality and durability have become legendary,and there is a good reason why. However,in the city,home-work-picking kids from school-supermarket-picnic trips,you will most likely not notice Subaru"s off road edge. Now,if someone havent experienced yet the interior quality and materials in Subaru,i strongly suggest go to your nearest dealer and do so. Hands down,it has the most disgusting interior,which i am sure if i tight up my dog inside,it will rip off the chain to run away! Cheap plastics and fabrics,big gaps..,everything is hard to touch and feels miserably cheap. Just to open the door and the smell of chemicals and plastics talks..CHEAP. Now,you wont find leather stitched dashboard in X1 either,but it feels rock solid,it has that nice BMW smell inside,and feels premium and expensive. Everywhere you touch is small extasy for your senses. I will never consider buying Subaru,until these people in Fujita Heavy Industries understand,that in 2016 good 4WD system is not enough!! Just like Nokia understood in the hard way,that in 21 century cant survive with naked good reception and solidly build device. People want to spend their trips in a nice atmosphere,nice to touch and feel materials,quality fabrics and plastics. Once Subaru gets to learn that,it might turn the game.
+S.T T. read my comment. What BMW brings to the market falls way way behind their reputation. The new grand tourer 2 feels cheap and horrible, the X1 feels cheap and horrible. And they make you pay for everything that the subaru or others have as stock. A fwd four cylinder barge is not a BMW. Not in my books.
waclosh Now,lets stay away from arguing about what car manufacturers reputation was 20 years ago,and what is it now. We all agree,that overall the quality of cars has decreased a lot in the last 20-30 years. Not only with BMW,but Honda,Lexus,Mercedes,and even Toyota to name few. Car manufacturers invest in upgrading the software ( touch screens,sensors for self parking,self driving,etc,multi media),while downgrading on build quality,engines,gearboxes and therefore the reliability is not what it used to be. Since i drove F30 for a week,i was disappointed from the quality of the interior,compared to Mercedes and even KIA. But,as much as its downgraded compared to lets say E39/E38,it still is arms and shoulders above the one found in Subaru! I can absolutely guarantee you that! Again,i dont want to argue about the looks of GT2 and X1,since they are not and will never be my cup of coffee. We talking about attention to detail and premium feel. Lets not argue any more,go to your nearest car dealer,get inside the X1 cabin,and soon after that try the Subaru. Then,please come back here to chat again:)
japan is waaaay ahead, bmw make good sport cars, but japanese built legacy cars, cars that are meant to last bazillions of kilometers without failures
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+justin bouche more more more more more more more more mate
Wish one it's better in snow , forester or x3 ?
PS - Heated seats are mandatory in snow country. My wife has a lot to say about that!
You said there is no air vents for the back seats. what is that at 4:57? I see air vents.
nice catch
That's actually the X1's rear seat even though they're talking about the Forrester. Missed that one in the editing caradvice!
They mixed up the videos. That is the BMW's rear seat in that one shot.
I got heated seats in my Forester as well along with a six speed manual transmission for 26k.
In Australia? Sounds good though - manual Forester is a good thing!
Snow country, northeast USA.
why'd you pick the forester to go against the X1 wagon? why not the outback wagon?
Great video!!
Here in Italy I see one petrol BMW on 100 BMW.
The X1 has only one petrol choice: 1.5 turbocharged 85 kw 3 cylinder sDrive.
Instead there are more than 10 choices of diesel engines (power/transmission/gearbox), so nobody takes a petrol X1 and in general a BMW (for ex. 3 series petrol isn't available with 4 cyl., only with 3 cyl. or 6 cyl. !!! instead you can take 316d/318d/320d eff. dyn./320d/325d/330d/335d !!!)
Thanks
I enjoyed this video, however I feel that a BMW X1 is closer to a Subaru Crosstrek, and a BMW X3 would be similar to a Subaru Forester. I am in the USA so I am not sure if the Crosstrek is available where you are.
Let's not forget the x1 is a mini platform it the mini countryman as is the x2 and the 2 series.
Have you noticed the smaller seats from the mini.
Just bought a 08 Forester added to my fleet n man this thing move first Subaru I ever owned but I actually like it more than my other 🚘
From S Africa, I recently traded X3 and X5 (wife and I )for latest Forrester and Outback, saved a ton of money(equivalent to another outback) feature for feature ...works 100% for our situation and I expect a longer life than the BMW's
I have owned 2018 Subaru Forester 2.5 touring, I love it
You should compare x3 awd vs forester . Wonder who will win ?
How is a front wheel 2wd considered an SUV??
Nearly every compact and small SUV in this class has a FWD offering. And besides, BMW has never called the X1 an SUV.
why not compare the AWD Subaru with a (AWD) BMW the xdrive and not the (2WD) sdrive???
I like this guys and their reviews 👍
Very honest and good review. Forester does indeed badly need rear vents, considering its heating system is at best deficient. One thing you missed is the front seats of the Forester; they are too short and on long travels (2h+) your legs do get soar quickly.
Sabes, eso lo note desde que compre mi auto y si estado buscando la forma de resolver esto. Por lo demás todo bien
no CAR can beat the subaru b9 tribeca with that 6 cylinders on the motor and that 300 HP and flat engine
That’s correct. I have driven one since 2007 with 2006 model year. Over 123, 000 miles, now. Only change the oils (by myself and easy to do.) A few people to realize B9 Subaru Tribeca is a look of Alfa Romeo (Subaru hired Alfa’s chief designer to do the exterior for these models years, according to my research online.) It had been recalled for the hook’s hud cap and passenger’ airbag. Subaru notified me and fixed them very quickly. Now, I only need to change spark plugs, belt (only one outside and not timing belt ‘cause it is a timing chain and might not be change at all), axles boots, and the oils. That’s it. Solid vehicle. My car is 2006 model year and I bought it in January of 2007. I got a discount of $5000. MSRP $32,000, paid $26,000. A lot of drive by people looked @ my car for the first a couple of years. One gentleman even stopped @ gas station and asked how do I like the car. Cool ;) Not an expensive car but God bless a lot.
Too ugly
At 4:57, discussing lack of seat vents in the Subaru and noting the seat bench style, then splicing in X1 video footage which actually depicts vents making it seem like they're still in the Subaru. That was a little trippy. Nice comparison though!
Why not test w an xdrive X1?
I know it's rather late, but what a nice review boys...there are just too many people buying the badge and only realising later that it's actually practicality they need and not flashiness.
It's weird, seeing as I'm from US, to hear power outputs in kW and n•m (newton-meter is correct torque unit but US generally uses the ft-lb/lb-ft).
AWD is good in bad heavy wet roads. Reg gas/petrol vs premium fuel... You can also tune the Xt...
Bad comparisson... The Subaru is an AWD and the version of the BMW is the Sdrive, front wheel drive... They had to compare the Forester with the X1 Xdrive, AWD technology of BMW.
I'm so glad I just watched this video. That was my dilemma last year when I decided to save some money and go with the Subaru Forester XT. After couple of months I started thinking if I did the right choice and I think I also started a little bit to regret that I did not go with a little bit more luxurious BMW... But after watching this video I am absolutely happy with my choice so THANK YOU CarAdvice for making me feel better. I love my car even more now :D
+Vibhu Srivatsa Iyer but the X1 in off road is a shame and Subaru is a great vehicle in off road conditions , the best of the AWD vehicle in bad roads
x1 luxurious?
Paweł Misiak
The Forester climbs hills that Honda, Toyota, Mazda, Suzuki will not climb. Many videos here to prove it. You made a wise purchase. Look at this old Subaru climb like a champ!
th-cam.com/video/TmBibFdMIRU/w-d-xo.html
There's a video on this site that shows Foresters keeping up with and in some cases out performing full bore Land Rovers off road and in deep mud. Subaru is my choice every day.
The x1 has heated seats, parking assist(self parking) and other features too but you have to pay extra. seems like they have the barest base model.
Where was this filmed, Tassie?
Just ask any BMW owner what those letters mean: "Break-My-Wallet" when it comes to maintenance costs (over 5 years). Yes, if you only flip your car every 3 to 4 years then go for a BMW, but have you ever noticed that there are no 'OLD' BMW cars on the roads? That's because after year 5 a huge repair can easily cost well over $10,000 and after year 5 'huge repairs' become fairly common. Meanwhile with Japanese vehicles 'huge repairs' don't happen until around year 12. I'm driving a 2006 Toyota with 330,000 miles on it, and so far the only thing I've had to get replaced on it (other than fluids, tires, wipers, and brake pads/rotors) is the front stabilizer links for $500 (they started to 'clunk') and the battery (twice) $100 each time. That's it, everything else is all-original from the factory. You just cannot do that in a BMW, Audi, or Mercedes, Guaranteed ! My neighbor has 2 Audi's, and one needs a new water pump, and that is gong to cost him $4,200 just for the water pump replacement procedure. In addition to that it needs another $3,000 worth of work done also, so over $7,000 of work every 3 or 4 years of Audi ownership. In the years he's own the Audi he will have sunk $11,000 into it in repairs, while I've sunk less than $1,000 into my Toyota. That is the difference in ownership costs you will experience between buying the BMW and the SUBARU.
I'm not saying that an Audi or BMW or Mercedes is a bad vehicle, its just that getting one is going to quickly turn into a MONEY PIT for you so you better have a lot of money, a big income from your career, because you are going to need it. Don't just take my word for it, watch these two videos and learn from the experts why ALL German luxury brands are expensive to own if you keep your cars for the long term:
( Why Mercedes Are Money Pit Machines ) th-cam.com/video/ZPJ64sTa7KI/w-d-xo.html
( Why Not To Buy A Mercedes ) th-cam.com/video/XV9rJwEOCus/w-d-xo.html
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I own a subaru and bmw (Subaru XV & 2017 BMW 330i) all I can say is, they are both reliable but I don’t work much on my XV compared to my BMW. As long as you take care of your BMW, it will be reliable, but expect the maintenance to be higher than the Subaru.
Wait it gets cold in Australia? TIL
subaru highly recomended overall is excellent
The 2017 Subaru xt exploads on the highway I love it, as a Canadian I also take great pride in the fact that the steering wheel is heated and the passengers in the rear are comforted by heated seats as well. The Forster has really evolved over the years and it's truly wonderful. Sorry BMW ❤️
You guys pasted my house at 9:13 😂. I didnt know your headquarters were in canberra
Nice house - I actually thought that when I watched the video lol.
SURE LOL
Great review guys
Thanks!
The Forester Touring has heated front and rear seats as well as a heated steering wheel.
this is weird in usa the bmw is 11,000 dollars more to start with
Forester range starts at $30k and the BMW $49,500 - but the two in the clip are the same price.
So we are comparing a loaded Forester vs. almost base X1 ? Well in that case of course the Forester would win . ( don't get me wrong , I am all for that , I drive a fully loaded KIA that costs pretty much as much as base price C-class and I would never switch to a base german just because of the badge. )
I disagree. Both models are of the same class (compact SUV), and the reason they are being compared was to show that for the same cost the Forester slaps the shit out of the X1. Remember the price point was used because that's the ENTRY cost for the X1 while at the TOP of the Forester. The Forester obviously is a better vehicle unless you just have to have a "BMW" (yay?). Do I think upper level BMW's are great (ie X5)? Well yah! However there is a hefty price tag for "luxury" and well cars don't appreciate in value, just depreciate much higher in luxury versions actually.
and if u add 4x4 to that X1 gezzz.. the forester already beaten it by price and 4x4 quality. now that would be bigger let down
where the comparison should be done is in the used vs new part like right now I'm considering a new XT and a used X1 but the X1 is the xDrive 35 model and they are about 2K apart... one being new the other has about 10,000 miles
It's so strange to see Aussie's wearing winter coats and hats while it's sweltering heat here in New England, USA. Obviously it's winter in the southern hemisphere, but it's messing with my head. When I think of Australia I think of warmth year round, regardless of season. I've always wanted to live in New Zealand or Australia in December, January, February and March. I hate winter.
Canberra (where this was shot) is always cold ;)
What are these strange measurements they're using. Liters? Kilometers?
Mid 40's now , decision making has changed over time. After my research the smart buy was the Subaru Outback for me. I did have other options, but there are 2 types of BMW owner that I know personally. One who complains how much he is at the dealer getting robbed and the other that hates his BMW once a month. With my subaru I hope to do neither. Only time will tell.
that forester version didn't have the turbo, it's the XT model that gets the turbo.
I have a 2016 Forester XT and it is a pretty serious off-roader. It can do a lot in the stock configuration, much more than I imagine the BMW will.
don't you have winter in Australia? 4x4 in Europe equals safety like 3-5 month/year.
So, more money for a lesser vehicle. BMW never seizes to disappoint.
But...the badge...the badge!...
Taylor Hayden
The word you wanted was "cease" not "seize".
Not a fair comparison. Base sdrive vs fully loaded XT pfft. Anyways the XT is a great vehicle, the X1 is as well. Ended up getting the X1...couldn't get over the very dated exterior and sub par dash of the XT and the CVT is a kill joy. BTW the Xdrive accelerates better than the sdrive..forester numbers. Both can last if maintained...but if aren't..the x1 will be the first to complain. Fair trade off.
Heated seats "for days like today". Come on! I barely even use my Subie's heated seats when it's -30 degrees Celsius here in Canada!
We have a very low tolerance for cold in Australia :)
Apparently, yeah! To be fair though, I have very low tolerance to heat!
Why don't you use it?
Frosty the snowman is that you?
How does that BMW have nearly 100 litres more of cargo space if it is so much smaller than the Subaru? I've checked the stats on Consumer Reports and the BMW X1 is supposed to have less cargo space.
Awesome comparison
why compare a fwd to a subaru although there is a xdrive model ..... really sucks biased imo
the bmw comes with awd also xdrive. you should compare awd to awd . to be fair
What's annoying is that almost nothing is available with manual transmission these days.
But there is an option for xdrive...I think
Me parece que soy el único en abla español o latino, yo tengo un forester XT Y NO LO CAMBIO POR NINGUNO. El BMW me parece muy elegante como coche europeo pero poco eficaz a la hora de meterlo por terreno accidentado
Great review
Great review!
Thanks Biboy!
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'the seat base is a little flat', you say when in the Forester, yet you're clearly in the back of the BMW?? (4.57)
I really wish they'd have compared the fozzy xt to the xdrive 😔
They said most people don't use the 4wd except offroad 1 or 2 days a year. Well, I have a steep driveway and I have a subaru. My neighbor has a steep driveway and a front wheel drive car. When it snows I can get in my driveway, but my neighbor can't get in his driveway. Oh by the way I still get 33mpg.
Ima get me a 2019..been waitin for so long
Subarus are more like an appliance. Also the screen washes out in bright light.
how about checking the reliability record, running costs, spare parts costs and service costs. I can see 100 videos of guys telling us how good seats are what it's like to drive. Give us some valuable information!
The 2017 BMW X1 starts at $32,000????
Why would you compare a AWD Subaru to an FWD X1 when there is an AWD X1 available? And the AWD X1 is the more preferred and more often sold variant of the X1?
cause its far more expensive and that is not an aspect they want you to focus on.
why do you guys keep saying 4WD when it's clearly an AWD!! damn!!
Geoff Longford no it's not
That's because the spare wheel is working full time!