Nice review of some of the rules. I didn’t know you receive a penalty for accidentally moving your ball while it’s beyond the tee, except on the green. Didn’t know about having to mark your ball location before picking it up to identify it. Thanks for letting me know.
NO, neither lifting to Identify nor Lifting due to interference with another Player allows cleaning the Ball before replacing. If the Ball is completely covered, preventing Identification, it can be carefully partly cleaned to see the Identification.
Regarding backstopping: I got penalized for that when I was around 2m east of the player chipping north of the hole (around 15m or so). I did ask if I should mark the ball as I was hurrying to place my trolley towards the next hole ( we were being hurried up). I believe they were wrong . What do you think?
If you do not replace it, you are playing from the wrong place, wich is at least the general penalty or even disqualification in case of a serious breach.
I was playing yesterday with two very capable sub ten hc junior golfers. I wasn’t sure at the time but realise I should have picked them up on something that would have penalised them both by two shots
Had a situation where my ball was sitting just off the green. Another ball played from off the putting surface struck it and knocked it onto the green. I just replace my ball with no penalty ..... correct?
I've come across controversy on what determines order of play. I grew up learning that on the green takes precedence in that regard. However, I've come across a number of people who say that proximity to hole takes precedence, regardless if a ball is on the green or not. Is there a strict rule, or is it up to the players to decide amongst each other?
Away is Away. Strictly, a 25 Foot Putt plays before a 15 Foot Chip. This has more Priority in Match Play, while in Stroke Play It's often waived by the Players.
What if you’re 30-50 yards from the green and your opponent hits his shot up a few feet beyond the hole. He says do you want me to go mark it and you say no you can leave it. As for pace of play leaving it speeds up play but it also gives you an advantage. Is there a penalty
I would not say that there is a penalty. From 30 to 50 yards out it would not be reasonable to believe that the ball close to the hole helps anyone's play.
(In singles play) Is their a penalty for playing your ball from a different place than where it was already marked on the green, (ie your playing buddy marked your ball but you didn't realise it, and just putted from the new position) but then it was pointed out to you after you putted... can u just replace it to where the marker was and continue on.. no penalty?
#5, when they changed the rule to no penalty for accidental movement on the green I don’t understand why it is still a penalty for accidental movement in the fairway. Why not just say for any accidental movement replace the ball to its original position with no penalty.
Good question... Guessing they want to make sure golfers take care not to move a ball at rest to keep the game as fair as possible. I can see an instance where a player moves a ball from a bad lie and then replaces it not quite in the same position..?
@@GolfMonthly mark it, pick it up to make sure it's theirs and then replace it not exactly tonthe same spot would have the same effect and is legal right?
More to do with the lesser Resistance of the Putting Green to the Balls Movement. Plus the Putting Green allows privileges with the Ball that aren't allowed in the other Areas of the Course.
So if im in tournament and someone ask me a yardage, you said i dont have to answer but can i answer wrong? If its 120 to the pin with a water carry and i tell them its 107 to the pin amd they come up short and wet can i get a penalty?
@@kenbrown2808 yeah but thats cause i suck at golf. Is there a rule that says i cant give a wrong yardage? What if me and the caddy have a code where we always add 15 yards to potentialy mess up listening competitors?
@@MilesMartinGolf if you are talking to your caddy with a secret code, that would be a different matter than telling your opponent deliberately incorrect yardage. it reminds me of a story: Bob was complaining to his wife that he had nobody to play golf with, and his wife asked why he didn't play with his neighbor dave. he said to her, "would you play with someone who purposefully yells during your backswing, moves the ball with his foot when he thinks you're not looking, an always shaves stroked on his scorecard?" she say, "well, no, I wouldn't." "well," bob says, "neither will dave."
I understand your telling me not to be an a-hole but ive had it happen to me so im wondering if its a penalty or not. Wether it moral is a different debate.
@@MilesMartinGolf there is not a specific rule regarding misleading your opponent as to yardage, but the general code of conduct specifies that golfers are to be honest with their opponent in all things. - which could result in disqualification for poor sportsmanship. in addition to having your golf partner throw you in the pond for giving him the wrong yardage.
In stroke play, a player playing from the teeing area misses the ball completely. They push the tee farther into the ground and then play the ball. What is the ruling? In this scenario there is no penalty, which I do not understand, It was a stroke at a ball, so it is one stroke isn't it?
An air shot counts as a stroke as the player swung the club at the ball with the intention of hitting it. So they would be playing 2 should they be successful in striking it the 2nd time. Ball still isn't in play as its still on the tee so can be re positioned for the 2nd shot.
That first rule seems so silly. I understand advice is against the rules, and there are many reasons as to why that is. But snooping inside someone's bag to ascertain what club they used being considered legit, and a simple question as to what they just hit as a penalty is just asinine. Equally asante is asking to confirm yardage. How is asking another golfer what club they used more of an advantage? An easy way around this would be to make a declarative statement along the lines of, "Nice 7 iron," or "I see you made it there with a 6," which might incur a response that might indicate the actual club that was used. I don't see how asking John Daly what club he used is advice, considering I would be several clubs removed from his monster hits. Also, how is asking for club selection advice, and asking for yardage isn't?
I think they covered this in another video. Yardage is classified as general knowledge and doesn't take the current weather conditions, while club selection is specific to the conditions on the day.
The lifting your ball to ID it without someone watching you is ridiculous..what’s to stop a player from lifting his ball from a plugged position and replacing it with an improved lie..it would be easy to do with no one watching you…
@@apaulmcdonough2170 I was shocked to see that one of the breaches incurred only a 1-shot penalty. I was under the impression that those were only issued in regards to hazards, OB (with distance), and unplayable lies.
@@reedr7142 you didn't identify "the breach" you were concerned about. Causing the Ball to move - in a Prohibited circumstance - is only One Stroke, as long as the Ball is replaced before Played.
@@GolfMonthly and the 3 minute time answers he question I had on my last round - I had two times on one hole I lost track of a ball, and had to drop a new ball. then I found both lost balls on the adjacent hole. it was obviously outside the 3 minutes, and so my score remained the same. (hit a tree with one, and apparently shanked the other both launched fast enough I didn't see them in flight)
Nice review of some of the rules. I didn’t know you receive a penalty for accidentally moving your ball while it’s beyond the tee, except on the green. Didn’t know about having to mark your ball location before picking it up to identify it. Thanks for letting me know.
Thank you for sharing. As a golfer, following the rules are important.
We could all be stronger on the rules .
Fun and interesting way to cover essential golf knowledge.
Beats reading the rule book , hands down 🤘🏻
Very interesting. Thanks.
I enjoyed the “you wasted one of your best shots,” line
When picking up your ball for the purpose of identification, are you allowed to clean the ball? I would imagine not but it’s an interesting question.
NO, neither lifting to Identify nor Lifting due to interference with another Player allows cleaning the Ball before replacing.
If the Ball is completely covered, preventing Identification, it can be carefully partly cleaned to see the Identification.
These 2 have developed such a charming chemistry that I would probably tune into a program about them trying to solve murder mysteries together
Regarding backstopping: I got penalized for that when I was around 2m east of the player chipping north of the hole (around 15m or so). I did ask if I should mark the ball as I was hurrying to place my trolley towards the next hole ( we were being hurried up). I believe they were wrong . What do you think?
Was at Gleneagles on Friday and dont recognise that course? Which one was it? The Queens?
I think he said they were at The London Club
Regarding #5, do I have to take the penalty and replace my ball or can I just take the stroke and continue playing from wherever it ended up?
call out in a loud voice, "I did that on purpose..."
I think it would depend on whether you hit it with your club or your foot.
If you do not replace it, you are playing from the wrong place, wich is at least the general penalty or even disqualification in case of a serious breach.
I was playing yesterday with two very capable sub ten hc junior golfers.
I wasn’t sure at the time but realise I should have picked them up on something that would have penalised them both by two shots
Please could you highlight the new amended golf rules effective 1st January 2023
Thanks
what is the ruling on the backstop when playing 4 ball or even in a scramble?
Had a situation where my ball was sitting just off the green. Another ball played from off the putting surface struck it and knocked it onto the green. I just replace my ball with no penalty ..... correct?
Any time Your Ball is known to have been moved by another Ball, Your Ball goes back to where it had been - to the best you determine.
I've come across controversy on what determines order of play. I grew up learning that on the green takes precedence in that regard. However, I've come across a number of people who say that proximity to hole takes precedence, regardless if a ball is on the green or not. Is there a strict rule, or is it up to the players to decide amongst each other?
Away is Away. Strictly, a 25 Foot Putt plays before a 15 Foot Chip.
This has more Priority in Match Play, while in Stroke Play It's often waived by the Players.
What if you’re 30-50 yards from the green and your opponent hits his shot up a few feet beyond the hole. He says do you want me to go mark it and you say no you can leave it. As for pace of play leaving it speeds up play but it also gives you an advantage. Is there a penalty
I would not say that there is a penalty. From 30 to 50 yards out it would not be reasonable to believe that the ball close to the hole helps anyone's play.
11:00 What rule can I find that in? I'm referring to putting out of turn
(In singles play) Is their a penalty for playing your ball from a different place than where it was already marked on the green, (ie your playing buddy marked your ball but you didn't realise it, and just putted from the new position) but then it was pointed out to you after you putted... can u just replace it to where the marker was and continue on.. no penalty?
You can rotate the ball for identification.
Neil @1:14 when you told Jez you’d used a 4 iron did you incurred a 2 shot penalty for saying what club you used😮
#5, when they changed the rule to no penalty for accidental movement on the green I don’t understand why it is still a penalty for accidental movement in the fairway. Why not just say for any accidental movement replace the ball to its original position with no penalty.
Moving your ball on the fairway should be a penalty for moron
Good question... Guessing they want to make sure golfers take care not to move a ball at rest to keep the game as fair as possible. I can see an instance where a player moves a ball from a bad lie and then replaces it not quite in the same position..?
@@GolfMonthly mark it, pick it up to make sure it's theirs and then replace it not exactly tonthe same spot would have the same effect and is legal right?
@@joaomoura8101 If you can see It's your Ball, you have no right to "pick it up to ID it"
More to do with the lesser Resistance of the Putting Green to the Balls Movement.
Plus the Putting Green allows privileges with the Ball that aren't allowed in the other Areas of the Course.
Under the first rule they went over - if I ask what club my opponent used but they don't tell me, am I still penaluzed?
Why would you backstop in stroke play? Your still helping your opponet
Basic rules there..
Surely those that play regularly should know them?
not good peeping trough others bag ... trust your game and play and enjoy.
If the other player's bag falls over and you jump in to stop it falling and potentially damaging a club, have you technically broken the rules?
Did you give the Bag a little kick first? 🤔 😉
So if im in tournament and someone ask me a yardage, you said i dont have to answer but can i answer wrong? If its 120 to the pin with a water carry and i tell them its 107 to the pin amd they come up short and wet can i get a penalty?
you may find yourself also short and wet.
@@kenbrown2808 yeah but thats cause i suck at golf. Is there a rule that says i cant give a wrong yardage? What if me and the caddy have a code where we always add 15 yards to potentialy mess up listening competitors?
@@MilesMartinGolf if you are talking to your caddy with a secret code, that would be a different matter than telling your opponent deliberately incorrect yardage.
it reminds me of a story: Bob was complaining to his wife that he had nobody to play golf with, and his wife asked why he didn't play with his neighbor dave.
he said to her, "would you play with someone who purposefully yells during your backswing, moves the ball with his foot when he thinks you're not looking, an always shaves stroked on his scorecard?"
she say, "well, no, I wouldn't."
"well," bob says, "neither will dave."
I understand your telling me not to be an a-hole but ive had it happen to me so im wondering if its a penalty or not. Wether it moral is a different debate.
@@MilesMartinGolf there is not a specific rule regarding misleading your opponent as to yardage, but the general code of conduct specifies that golfers are to be honest with their opponent in all things. - which could result in disqualification for poor sportsmanship. in addition to having your golf partner throw you in the pond for giving him the wrong yardage.
In stroke play, a player playing from the teeing area misses the ball completely. They push the tee farther into the ground and then play the ball. What is the ruling? In this scenario there is no penalty, which I do not understand, It was a stroke at a ball, so it is one stroke isn't it?
An air shot counts as a stroke as the player swung the club at the ball with the intention of hitting it. So they would be playing 2 should they be successful in striking it the 2nd time. Ball still isn't in play as its still on the tee so can be re positioned for the 2nd shot.
That first rule seems so silly. I understand advice is against the rules, and there are many reasons as to why that is.
But snooping inside someone's bag to ascertain what club they used being considered legit, and a simple question as to what they just hit as a penalty is just asinine.
Equally asante is asking to confirm yardage. How is asking another golfer what club they used more of an advantage?
An easy way around this would be to make a declarative statement along the lines of, "Nice 7 iron," or "I see you made it there with a 6," which might incur a response that might indicate the actual club that was used.
I don't see how asking John Daly what club he used is advice, considering I would be several clubs removed from his monster hits.
Also, how is asking for club selection advice, and asking for yardage isn't?
I think they covered this in another video. Yardage is classified as general knowledge and doesn't take the current weather conditions, while club selection is specific to the conditions on the day.
The lifting your ball to ID it without someone watching you is ridiculous..what’s to stop a player from lifting his ball from a plugged position and replacing it with an improved lie..it would be easy to do with no one watching you…
This is a recycled old video right? Thought everything was one shot penalty now
The General Penalty of Two Strokes - OR Loss of Hole in Match Play - still stands for certain Rules.
@@apaulmcdonough2170 I was shocked to see that one of the breaches incurred only a 1-shot penalty. I was under the impression that those were only issued in regards to hazards, OB (with distance), and unplayable lies.
@@reedr7142 you didn't identify "the breach" you were concerned about.
Causing the Ball to move - in a Prohibited circumstance - is only One Stroke, as long as the Ball is replaced before Played.
I had a guy tell me that if a provisional goes farther than the original ball that you have to play the provisional even if the first ball isn’t lost
my understanding is if you hit a provisional, and you find the original, you must play the original.
That's right - the provisional is no longer in play as soon as you find the original ball (as long as you are within the 3 min search time)
@@GolfMonthly and the 3 minute time answers he question I had on my last round - I had two times on one hole I lost track of a ball, and had to drop a new ball. then I found both lost balls on the adjacent hole. it was obviously outside the 3 minutes, and so my score remained the same. (hit a tree with one, and apparently shanked the other both launched fast enough I didn't see them in flight)
I'm guessing that guy also has a bunch of "house rules" when he plays Monopoly.
im sure rule breakers r loving the new no witness needed pick up to identify your ball rule... to create better lies
im sure cheaters r loving the new no witness needed pick up to identify your ball rule... to create better lies
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