Introduction to Combat Fatigue (US Navy, 1944)

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  • This formerly restricted film was intended to be shown to patients suffering from combat fatigue. A medical officer/narrator explains the nature of fear and how it helps the body and mind cope with threatening situations. Profiling a soldier named Edwards, the narrator explains how combat fatigue begins, grows, and finally incapacitates the soldier. Aboard a ship headed for the combat zone, Edwards feels excitement and tension. In the combat zone, he behaves as expected -- he leaves his ship, wades ashore, penetrates a jungle area, and fires at the enemy. He is afraid but not cowardly. His fear keeps him alert and ready. During a lull in the battle, the fear abates. This is normal. During a prolonged period of relative inactivity, dug in in the jungle, Edwards becomes grouchy, nervous, and impatient. He and the other troops are in a constant state of alert. Edwards finally snaps during a patrol when his buddy, walking five paces in front of him, is killed. The narrator explains that Edwards has reached his own breaking point and is overcome with fear. From this point on, his behavior reflects his illness. He is irritable and critical. He becomes hostile and irrational. He suffers from loss of appetite and vomits what he does eat. He cannot sleep. When the immediate cause of fear is absent, Edwards is still afraid. Even when he is on leave, he is afraid. He cannot forget. The narrator reassures the viewer that Edwards will get well under the Navy's treatment program, and he will learn that fear is the fighting man's friend once he learns to "run" his fear and not let it "run" him. Shots include: A cat reacting with fear to the presence of a dog, combat scenes in a jungle setting, firefights, day and night patrols, a night watch in a foxhole, and an aerial attack on a camp.
    Learn more about this film and search its transcript at NLM Digital Collections: resource.nlm.nih.gov/9200922A.
    Learn more about the National Library of Medicine's historical audiovisuals program at: www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/collectio...
    #medicalhistory #militaryhistory #ptsd #combat
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  • @mnpd3
    @mnpd3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The introduction says the film "is not to be shown to patients." Then in the next frame claims, "This film was designed to be shown to patients......" Typical military SNAFU. Reminds me of the regulation on those bright orange tent pegs. The TM says the non-tactical color is so personnel can see the tent stays and not trip over them; then goes on to say the pegs are to be driven below ground so that they are invisible.

    • @Stevarooni
      @Stevarooni ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That tent peg example makes sense, though. They're supposed to be driven down until they're invisible. If they work loose until they're visible, it helps that they'll be _very_ visible so someone doesn't trip over them.

  • @rickyletner3167
    @rickyletner3167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The marine corps told me my feelings where my personal problem and should be delt with on my personal time.

    • @rickyletner3167
      @rickyletner3167 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @U WinTV no problem. I realize that a long time ago. I was just pointing out how it is in the real world.

    • @rickyletner3167
      @rickyletner3167 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @U WinTV still better than a lot of shit holes I've been to.

    • @marine4lyfe85
      @marine4lyfe85 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. Mind over matter. If you don't mind, it don't matter.

    • @Gabriel-br4qe
      @Gabriel-br4qe 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that's how the military works. you personally don't matter. your personal feelings and grievances are irrelevant and ignorable unless they get in the way of your job

  • @neaputere592
    @neaputere592 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A veteran of french foreign legion salutes you

  • @garyjones7219
    @garyjones7219 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Every man is different, There b.s. at the end of this video says they are fit is B.S. they told me the same thing after a year of so-called rehab, R.R. in San Diego Ca. balboa Military Hospital. Then release me to go back. I was 21, I am now 68 and 100% disabled. Do not believe their lies.

  • @01-Ty
    @01-Ty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wow this is literally shell shock except they're tying to control the reactions of the patients they showed this to

  • @blackdaan
    @blackdaan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    damn this takes you deep in the situation.. getting off that boat. fear comes up. bullets flying. every cell in your body is screaming no. but you have been taught to use fear as tool to keep going..

  • @oneeyeonmidgard6801
    @oneeyeonmidgard6801 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Pro tip, you’ll manage your PTSD and not constantly contemplate suicide if you stay away from VA SSRI’s. You have to find a way to deal with your issues with a sober mind, or you’ll never be free. If your ancestors could deal with the horrors without being medicated, you can too.

    • @MDR-hn2yz
      @MDR-hn2yz ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Best thing I did after coming home from Iraq was quit drinking. Probably saved my life 🇺🇸

    • @Cheezburgercatz
      @Cheezburgercatz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      your ancestors could not deal hence the generations of traumatized people they influenced/raised. I agree that SSRIs aren't always the answer and can definitely exacerbate suicidal ideation, but maybe don't reject all medication entirely. Therapy is a major part of it, though, and learning how to bring yourself down from reactive states without chemical influence just in case you lose access/it doesn't work out. That should be anyone with PTSD's first priority. Combat PTSD is also only one of many types to have. Each requiring a different approach and the avoidance of certain activities to avoid triggers.

    • @finncullen
      @finncullen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah but your ancestors didn't - they stayed blighted and traumatised, died young, took their own lives, or turned into monsters. They just didn't have a name for it.

    • @Donald_Dump420
      @Donald_Dump420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What are you on about. taking medication from a doctor is perfectly fine. A sober state of mind might work for you but some people need medication. SSRI’s are the least of your worries. Alcohol and benzodiazepines are what causes trouble.

  • @kgw100
    @kgw100 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The waiting for attacks is worse than the attack. Like finally, not dead from the first barrage and not time to get to work

  • @Dawntana
    @Dawntana ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yes PTSD is totally just memory of the enemy being a threat. Not the fact that a soldier has seen mangled dead bodies with people’s heads and parts blown all over the place, or other soldiers dying in pain somewhere but being unable to help them.

    • @earthatom7
      @earthatom7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You're completely right. What really messed with me in Iraq was the civilian casualties but mostly the kids

    • @Cheezburgercatz
      @Cheezburgercatz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah its an incredibly weird borderline narcissistic view of PTSD where you're only concerned for your physical safety and not the safety of others nor are you traumatized by having your world flipped upside down with what you are forced to see and perpetuate.

    • @Dawntana
      @Dawntana ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@earthatom7 yes i met a veteran once who had shot a kid. They were in dangerous territory and saw the kid reach for a cell phone or something and the guy blew him away…. Ill just say its messed the guy up for life

    • @AlphaFlight
      @AlphaFlight ปีที่แล้ว

      Wah wah . Sounds like a sorry excuse some sorry ass made up to get out of something

    • @DirectorNVL
      @DirectorNVL ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Weren't there medics available?

  • @emau2459
    @emau2459 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "He's got guns in his head"

  • @beasst55
    @beasst55 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn familiar.

  • @aj2080xy6
    @aj2080xy6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Combat-related post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), aka shell ahock, neurasthenia, combat fatigue, wire weariness, improvised emotional dysfunction (IED) etc.
    The US and UK has figured out that advertising showing professionalism in the face of challenge but reward side of the job is being shown to be more attractive than other "softer" recruitment tactics such as emphasising educational opportunities esp post active service like the GI Bill (to put the initial active duty portion as just a period to be waited out rather than "sacrifice") and job training eg (EMT). Such a change in recruitment approaches has correlated with better recruitment and retention. This and also escape from previous life whether it's to escape difficult circumstances or adventure and new experiences coming in second in the evidence followed by the supposed social side of close friendships/supportive networks.
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Eric Arthur Blair
    Thank you to the honourable unfortunates whom I could not stand beside (applied but rejected and still envious of those who had the chance to experience it first hand.)

  • @petercunningham3469
    @petercunningham3469 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Hell of jungle War might have changed the Geniuses minds if they'd been there.

  • @learningbuddies915
    @learningbuddies915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    26.4k subscribers and only two comments?🤔 and today in 2020, over 20 veterans a day killing themselves due to severe PTSD?

    • @user-zp9br7jk9k
      @user-zp9br7jk9k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it's hard to put into words.. even harder to think these men fought and suffered and died for the freedoms we are now watching the youth of america happily give away.
      they are busy arguing over what pronoun to use while their liberties are being slaughtered.

    • @UsyksmashedFurytopieces
      @UsyksmashedFurytopieces 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I feel sorry for the civilians and soldiers killed maimed and traumatised. I don’t feel sorry for the cunts of politicians who sent the soldiers into pointless wars.

    • @A-No-One
      @A-No-One 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      120 vets per day. My father lost so much time with me and i try to be a better American but people suck.

    • @UsyksmashedFurytopieces
      @UsyksmashedFurytopieces 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-zp9br7jk9k On one extreme we have the ludicrous woke snowflakes confused about gender and getting offended if someone addresses them with the wrong pronouns. The same crowd of morons look to cancel or silence anybody who disagrees with them.
      On the other extreme you have the gun mad crew obsessed with blood sports and invading and massacring other countries.
      There has to be a sensible middle ground.

    • @Ch4MMPBoi
      @Ch4MMPBoi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-zp9br7jk9kI didn’t realize Joe Biden is youthful lol.

  • @stanmack6171
    @stanmack6171 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    2:23 Is immediate Condition Red😡

    • @noblelies
      @noblelies 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep. Dat pussy be on-guard.

  • @neaputere592
    @neaputere592 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Same stuff in the legion

  • @weirdsciencetv4999
    @weirdsciencetv4999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Is this battle fatigue or PTSD?

    • @garyjones7219
      @garyjones7219 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same thing. The symptom was changed to PTSD because it sounded better.

    • @Lawh
      @Lawh ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The setting is combat related, but the mechanism is the same for all serious or less serious trauma.
      I found this extremely relieving, even though I've never been to combat. My entire childhood consisted of fear, abuse and isolation.
      In modern medicine it's understood that the cause for PTSD doesn't matter, once it hits. Someone might have had more things pole up before and after it trigger, but it basically feels the same. The less you have to get through the better it usually is. Also, many people have some underlying cause that will make them more susceptible to other events. We all have our core self. If whatever it relies on is attacked or destroyed, we'll lost definitely feel it.
      Someone might have lived a really tough life, but they make it through it because of a child for example. If the child were to happen to die, the entire house crumbles down. Someone else might severely mourn the loss of a child, but since they have had the chance to base their core self on other things as well they will not be absolutely destroyed by this same event. This is how humanity works, and extreme situations are more likely to trigger a whole lot of existential and related crises.
      Someone might get similar symptoms because they have been too sheltered for an extremely extended period of time and then are faced with tough realities. This is different, since their memories aren't necessarily bad, but they are very out of sync with reality. They are currenrly experiencing a crisis and do not have PTSD, whereas PTSD is experiencing a crisis or multiple of them because of past trauma. Hence the name post traumatic stress disorder. Post as in past the traum, and stress disorder meaning that stress is not relevant to the current situation, any longer.
      For other's like me personally, it happened through never getting a break from the fear reflex since early childhood, getting no sleep, no food, no sanity, no understanding, no coping mechanisms, and no human value. The first time I relaxed naturally was at around the age of 31 or 32 for about a minute or so, though I was taking prescription pills. This was just the first time I felt what relaxation was
      I had never felt it before. Since then it has happened less that 5 times I think. I am a million times better than I was as a child and a young person. Note that I am not in therapy, but I have been declared unfit to function, so I would have it easy now if I could only get this thing to stop or live with it without embarrassing moments.
      I used to wake up screaming, out of breath. I would tremble and go absolutely crazy in many ways. If they only had videos like this for civilians, and we had medical personnel who all actually cared to take care of people before they break, things would be a lot better for everyone.

    • @finncullen
      @finncullen ปีที่แล้ว

      This video clears it up beautifully th-cam.com/video/hSp8IyaKCs0/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=dubeye08

    • @randyandtheretreads3144
      @randyandtheretreads3144 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was realized same things can occur in a non-war context so the name was changed to PTSD. (was earlier called "Shell Shock")

  • @BillMartre-uq1gg
    @BillMartre-uq1gg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ptsd is hell
    you can get painkillers injected in your neck to calm it but I think it's forever

    • @jenniferbriggs3796
      @jenniferbriggs3796 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is😢

    • @kyledodson2992
      @kyledodson2992 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wrong. I’ve been in treatment for Trauma for 13 years now. I’m a 3 time combat vet via Marine Corps infantry. You can indeed learn to live with it. Much like anxiety. But you need to be proactive. Trust me. I live a good life now. If you need help, let me know

  • @vincentkudelycz258
    @vincentkudelycz258 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    is that Marlon Brando on the left at 14:11 ?

    • @mikehendricks7938
      @mikehendricks7938 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gerald S. O'Loughlin,I think

  • @lzcontrol
    @lzcontrol ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The guy from Barney Miller.
    And GREAT music.
    A different and better time.

  • @killroywashere2282
    @killroywashere2282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    rock happy

  • @fashionistalagerfeld1954
    @fashionistalagerfeld1954 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the twilight zone

  • @kimjohnson8471
    @kimjohnson8471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Back when men weren't soft. Truly the GREATEST GENERATION

  • @oldcop18
    @oldcop18 ปีที่แล้ว

    I served as a Navy Corpsman w/the Marines in Viet Nam, 1966, and found this film to be a bit dated.

  • @lesterleland
    @lesterleland ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some, show, inject, place toe tag, THE ALL AMERICAY WAY.

  • @teufelhunden4272
    @teufelhunden4272 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gonna throw a wrench in the mix here. How many veterans that commit suicide are using medication prescribed by the VA? It would be interesting somehow know a percentage of who idea where they were currently using prescriptions they were given for ptsd, anxiety, etc. that is the major problem, alcohol substance abuse and prescriptions that alter the brain.