Gene Kelly - being a messed up soldier. This is the first time I’ve seen an actual actor in one of these. And good job, too. All of them were good. How they were allowed to make a film like this in the ‘40’s is amazing. As it was specifically for the men in the War, it’s really good they did do it. They probably used worse cursing than here. Gene was amazing - never saw him so angry or disturbed. Very good production all together!
I know a WWII combat vet and POW who still after more than 70 years cannot have a conversation that will involve deep, deep wounds of war memories. And you can't have a conversation where he won't start tensing up and weeping - usually several times in a conversation. My dad also a WWII paratrooper who was no stranger to PTSD said of my old friend, "That guy has REALLY seen Hell." God be with him.
my uncle was in vietnam... same thing.. once you see hell, and are part of it, it is hard to forget. what is 'normal' when you've been hunted... or when you've shot men, women, and children because it was them, or you.
My former partner was a policeman and after being subjected to a horrendous attack was diagnosed with PTSD, definitely one of the reasons he became an alcoholic. It's sadly extremely common with ex-servicemen, I feel for them so much 🌹
Was listening to some old time radio and there was an advertisement about caring for your mental health that was very sincerely done by Gene Kelly. You could hear in his voice that he had experienced loss over it.
That's a pretty realistic and, I think, good look at what we now call PTSD. Suppression of fear, extreme discomfort, feelings of helplessness, etc. I'm impressed with their, for the time, up to date approach.
I have been watching these old training films as well as many old social guidance films for days now and this is the first one where I've seen a married couple with a single bed! Very interesting.
My uncle was in the army back in wwi he spent time in the trenches, he never could speak about what it was like there in the trenches, what he had seen, what war was like. They didn't know much about PTSD back then.
A shout out to all of those who are now viewing Combat Fatigue Irritability: can any of you identify any of the other cast members (none of whom are credited)? I'm especially interested in identifying the actor who plays the wise psychiatric officer, who also appears in other military psychiatric films of the period.
nokomis mn - I think that’s an over-generalization. Yes, we’re on our phones a lot. That Doesn’t mean people don’t talk to their families, or that they don’t put them away during therapy groups.
I was once in a psychiatric hospital for 10 days, we weren’t allowed to have our phones until we were discharged. It was so nice to just be in a place where a group of people could talk and everyone was listening and participating… As much as I love my phone for watching TH-cam in bed, I really do miss the days when nobody had that constant distraction in the background. Really being somewhere and enjoying nature and laughing 😅maybe I just miss being a kid…
Treatments for PTSD and related problems have improved since this film was made. You can't change the past, but the past doesn't have to change you either.
He's right about being below decks. That's why I was in Deck Dept. , standing watches in the pilothouse and working outside, involved with everything the ship does.
My grandfather's submarine, SS-293 Dragonet, was close to the surface north of Japan and took damage from a bomb from a Japanese patrol plane (Navy says they struck a submerged pinnacle), the front third was practically blown off. They had to seal men still initially alive behind so the whole boat wouldn't flood, men doomed to drown. Happened in 1944. I can imagine what his time was look after they limped back home and his crew was put on some sort of rest.
"Here, take this. It will help you relax." That was the same thing my doctors told me in the 2000s when they put me on more dangerous drugs like anti-depressants and mood stabilizers. So now my PTSD is much worse, along with anxiety, irritability and thoughts of suicide. What I wouldn't give for a simple opioid so I could sleep - can't have that anymore!! Pharmaceuticals, through the ages, have left us totally dependent on the drug merry-go-round, unless we are brave enough to jump off.
I know exactly how you feel mate , after 20 years of combat PTSD and three suicide attempts tow overdoses and one hanging ....I'm on tramadol and codiene two opioids which I take in the morning and literally relax me so I can think...a little .....I'm on amitriptyline an anti depressant but I take it to get to sleep and stay asleep and minimise the nightmares I was on quetiapine which is a anti psychotic drug which helped with sleep but I get restless leg syndrome with it which is a nightmare so stopped taking it ....I must have tried every damn drug there is but I'm happy with what I'm on now , but I'm afraid they will take it off me as you say they are not keen on giving out opioids ...hope you find comfort mate love from the UK
@johnroscoe2406 Great leap to assumptions. nan·cy /ˈnansē/ noun noun: nancy boy a gay man. a timid, affected, or overly fastidious man. 20 years and retired Navy. USS Independence USS Kitty Hawk USNS Concord USNS San Jose USNS Niagara Falls USS Peleliu 20 years active, 15 overseas, 8 deployable and 4 on the GI Bill in Western Australia.
At the 27:09 or so mark, that was pretty hard to watch as you can tell the guys in the background were truly upset… that’s what most men do when they have to hold back tears, is cover their eyes/faces with their hands like the guy in the background.
"But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." Matthew 12:36-37!
REPENT and RECEIVE JESUS as your LORD and SAVIOUR to have your name secured in His Book of Life. "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:15!
Gene Kelly - being a messed up soldier. This is the first time I’ve seen an actual actor in one of these. And good job, too. All of them were good. How they were allowed to make a film like this in the ‘40’s is amazing. As it was specifically for the men in the War, it’s really good they did do it. They probably used worse cursing than here. Gene was amazing - never saw him so angry or disturbed. Very good production all together!
I know a WWII combat vet and POW who still after more than 70 years cannot have a conversation that will involve deep, deep wounds of war memories. And you can't have a conversation where he won't start tensing up and weeping - usually several times in a conversation. My dad also a WWII paratrooper who was no stranger to PTSD said of my old friend, "That guy has REALLY seen Hell." God be with him.
PTSD is a living hell. I hope one day they can figure out how to fix it
my uncle was in vietnam... same thing..
once you see hell, and are part of it, it is hard to forget.
what is 'normal' when you've been hunted... or when you've shot men, women, and children because it was them, or you.
LOL I couldn't believe how that tubby bartender leaped the bar like a gazelle and kicked ass!
My former partner was a policeman and after being subjected to a horrendous attack was diagnosed with PTSD, definitely one of the reasons he became an alcoholic. It's sadly extremely common with ex-servicemen, I feel for them so much 🌹
Policemen have a domestic violence rate 4X higher than the general population.
Gene's best friend was killed in the war, his raw emotion in this performance I'm sure was partly due to the deep loss & pain he felt.
I thought that was him 🙂
Was listening to some old time radio and there was an advertisement about caring for your mental health that was very sincerely done by Gene Kelly. You could hear in his voice that he had experienced loss over it.
This might be the best film project Gene Kelly ever did.
Poor thing.
That's a pretty realistic and, I think, good look at what we now call PTSD. Suppression of fear, extreme discomfort, feelings of helplessness, etc. I'm impressed with their, for the time, up to date approach.
This is actually very well done and gives great insight into the optimal approaches to PTSD in this era
Whoa! The language in this film is shocking for 1945!
Weird to see a doctor offer a patient a cigarette...then light up one himself! Gene Kelly was an idol of mine when I was a kid.
I have been watching these old training films as well as many old social guidance films for days now and this is the first one where I've seen a married couple with a single bed! Very interesting.
IIRC, the single bed stuff came about during the 50s.
combat fatigue...now known as PTSD.
Its hard to understand PTSD .my dad had it. He was torpedoed twice during the war . it took time .
A little off topic, but it’s surprisingly jarring to hear people swear in a film from this time period.
We’re not used to it.
Well thier sailors so theres that
They used the "F" word during WW2 but using word that here would be going too far even for a military medical film!
Sailor is a sailor
Daddy was a sailor in WW11! AMAZING man! 💓
That’s the famous actor singer dancer Gene Kelly!!!!
Everytime someone says the word "God damned" take a drink
My uncle was in the army back in wwi he spent time in the trenches, he never could speak about what it was like there in the trenches, what he had seen, what war was like. They didn't know much about PTSD back then.
A shout out to all of those who are now viewing Combat Fatigue Irritability: can any of you identify any of the other cast members (none of whom are credited)? I'm especially interested in identifying the actor who plays the wise psychiatric officer, who also appears in other military psychiatric films of the period.
we call it PTSD now
imdb.com has a cast list. Sue is Jocelyn Brando, Marlon's sister.
@@cair124 she's on an episode of Wagon Train rite now
Gene Kelly!
When the young man sat down, then the "Docter" says, "How about a cigarette?" Lol..
Imdb has the psychiatric officer listed as Lauren Gilbert (1911-1998).
A drama like this wouldn't be possible today because each person would just be staring at his/her cell phone. Times have changed.
nokomis mn - I think that’s an over-generalization. Yes, we’re on our phones a lot. That Doesn’t mean people don’t talk to their families, or that they don’t put them away during therapy groups.
GODDAMMIT GODDAMIT GODDAMIT!!
well said
I was once in a psychiatric hospital for 10 days, we weren’t allowed to have our phones until we were discharged. It was so nice to just be in a place where a group of people could talk and everyone was listening and participating…
As much as I love my phone for watching TH-cam in bed, I really do miss the days when nobody had that constant distraction in the background. Really being somewhere and enjoying nature and laughing 😅maybe I just miss being a kid…
Good words at the end
Where the Doc is talking to You the Audience! MAKES YOU THINK!
Fun fact was originally suppose to star Marlon Brando but still won an Oscar for best director
Treatments for PTSD and related problems have improved since this film was made.
You can't change the past, but the past doesn't have to change you either.
He's right about being below decks. That's why I was in Deck Dept. , standing watches in the pilothouse and working outside, involved with everything the ship does.
The cost of war can not be counted.
GODDAMNIT GODDAMMIT GODDAMMIT
Oh Great ,When your Doctor offers you a cigarette! R U N !!!!!
Gene kelly
DDiva R Yep. He was a rising star at MGM. "For Me and My Gal" (with Judy Garland) came out just a few years before. 1942, I guess.
My grandfather's submarine, SS-293 Dragonet, was close to the surface north of Japan and took damage from a bomb from a Japanese patrol plane (Navy says they struck a submerged pinnacle), the front third was practically blown off. They had to seal men still initially alive behind so the whole boat wouldn't flood, men doomed to drown. Happened in 1944. I can imagine what his time was look after they limped back home and his crew was put on some sort of rest.
Really. The very best movie perhaps ever made.
Because, Lois Lane, it's like about life and explains why men are agressive and all of that.
Where was this video when I in? Seems weve learned nothing. Coming back from iraq and Afghanistan was the same.
"Here, take this. It will help you relax." That was the same thing my doctors told me in the 2000s when they put me on more dangerous drugs like anti-depressants and mood stabilizers. So now my PTSD is much worse, along with anxiety, irritability and thoughts of suicide. What I wouldn't give for a simple opioid so I could sleep - can't have that anymore!! Pharmaceuticals, through the ages, have left us totally dependent on the drug merry-go-round, unless we are brave enough to jump off.
I know exactly how you feel mate , after 20 years of combat PTSD and three suicide attempts tow overdoses and one hanging ....I'm on tramadol and codiene two opioids which I take in the morning and literally relax me so I can think...a little .....I'm on amitriptyline an anti depressant but I take it to get to sleep and stay asleep and minimise the nightmares I was on quetiapine which is a anti psychotic drug which helped with sleep but I get restless leg syndrome with it which is a nightmare so stopped taking it ....I must have tried every damn drug there is but I'm happy with what I'm on now , but I'm afraid they will take it off me as you say they are not keen on giving out opioids ...hope you find comfort mate love from the UK
Toughen up, Nancy.
Oh I see you voted for Trump
And never got off your couch.
Proudly served onboard the USS Sofa
@johnroscoe2406 Great leap to assumptions.
nan·cy
/ˈnansē/
noun
noun: nancy boy
a gay man.
a timid, affected, or overly fastidious man.
20 years and retired Navy.
USS Independence
USS Kitty Hawk
USNS Concord
USNS San Jose
USNS Niagara Falls
USS Peleliu
20 years active, 15 overseas, 8 deployable and 4 on the GI Bill in Western Australia.
@@TruckingToPlease You're full of shit. You're an internet tough guy making fun of men infinitely better than you.
THE RED CROSS STATESMAN WAS ABLE TO HELP THE SAILOR WHO NEEDED THE HELP OF A MENTAL HEALTH UNIT
Gene Kelly
I don't want to be sarcastic about this movie! If it works it's okay for me😄
At the 27:09 or so mark, that was pretty hard to watch as you can tell the guys in the background were truly upset… that’s what most men do when they have to hold back tears, is cover their eyes/faces with their hands like the guy in the background.
That fat bartender is pretty light on his feet! Jumping over the bar in one movement like that.
Kinda looks like Gene Kelly
I am surprised at the profanity in the first two minutes of a film from 1945.
It's not a Hollywood movie. It was an internal film made specifically for the Navy to show to Navy personnel.
from Scranton says it all lol
😂
No dance scene? Aww shucks ...
"But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."
Matthew 12:36-37!
And your point is.....?
St John 3:16! 💓
JESUS is RETURNING SOON! ALLELUIA! 🙏🙌
REPENT and RECEIVE JESUS as your LORD and SAVIOUR to have your name secured in His Book of Life.
"And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
Revelation 20:15!
Sue is quite the hottie!