How Strong Do You Need To Be For A 40 Inch Vertical?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 เม.ย. 2024
- In today’s video the THP coaches talk about how their weight room numbers combined with their anthropometry correlates to their vertical jump measurements.
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Gotta add like 5% to all the body fats, not even close to 3%. Still obviously lean but 3% is insane, he's at least 8%
lots of ppl think about external body fat. might be close to 5 for a lean athlete. but the true bodyfat percentage is with the visceral one. and being under 10 is already kinda low.
All around 12 minimum
None of them are single digits bodybuilders are usually around 5-7% for shows and under 3% your body can’t function
None of those guys are single digits.
Also the fact that the human male body needs at least 5% to survive
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Conversation starts @ 2:25
For me 5’9.5 and 165 lbs
Squat: 380
Deadlift: 460
Bench: 210
Full clean: 225
Weighted pull-ups: +110
Dips: + 135
Max vert so far: 43 inches
Honestly i think anyone lifting a decent amount of intermediate weight can jump hella high given they also been jumping their ass off
Quarter Squat 545x8
Deadlift 495x5(not max reps)
Bench 270lb pause bench on last set of pyramid
Pullups 130-140lbs dips 160-165lbs
Max vertical I had was between 39-41 at the age of 30
5'8 highest ive done for half squats are 245lbs and my vert is like 32", so yes this makes sense. DAMN I GOTTA SQUAT MORE!!
@@jonisbon1 most people with natural 36-38 Inch got it all from playing basketball and dunking on all rims. Weight training plays a role , but for most people I think it's from over working their body and doing more steady state cardio vs anerobic cardio. Both highest jumpers I know never touched a weight and can jump over 40 inches(track athletes)
@@jonisbon1 I’d say if you bring that 245 lbs up to 315 lbs for a few reps plus start dunking a low rim you could dunk in about a year I’d say but idk how close you are
💪 dang that’s some solid numbers dude. I believe I will get to them one day !
Love how y’all do isos in between the vids
Gotta stay disciplined 💪🏼
5' 10" and 186lbs 7' 8" Reach
Squat: 340lbs
Power Clean: 225lbs
Power Snatch: 150lbs
RDL: 345lbs x 5
Bench: 250lbs
Weighted Pull-up: +115lbs
Max vert: ~34"
all that lifting just to be 5'10 and still cant dunk
@@suppressed_viii gotta work for it bro
@@suppressed_viiihes nearly there
@@domidunks im 6'2 195 and i can dunk and ive been lifting for a month
@@suppressed_viii your not him
height: 7'1
weight: 330
vert: 48"
Rate of force development is the most important factor in jumping!
Yes! Anthropometrics! We missed Austin's and John's wingspan and also what shoes their standing reaches were in!
Hi Zay, what do u think about max effort jumps on sand? There are some sports like beach volleyball
That shot at knees over toes guy is crazy
What time in the clip?
i mean knees over toes guy doesnt even have a high vertical
@@ayoooo704 the “success leaves clues” comment 😂
@@jonisbon1 really? I love john but kneesovertoesguy has way better jump mechanics than him as a coach. He can dunk off all plants really well, which john cannot do. Im sure if he specialized in one style of jump he could maybe get whatever you would consider a "high vertical"
John vs Ben… John would smack him at his best off one foot. He has windmilled, 180 cuff milled, eastbay on 9’8, tomahawk, etc.
And has made actual recorded progress on his vertical, Ben hides genetic ability behind his knee pain sob story
What are you guys max standing verticals? I'm pretty sure you used your running vertical numbers?
Are power snatches or power cleans more beneficial for my vertical?
Age: 20
Height: 6'2
Weight: 166
Power clean: 88
Back squat: 110
RDL: 88
Calf raises: 132
Currently this are my lifts and the half of my hand is above the rim before it's just my fingertips. Combining strength and plyometrics in a week, should I continue this type of lifts or do I need to add more routines to it or no?
I don't have verts like these guys but I'm an athlete who's been in the gym for years. From the numbers it sounds like you are a beginner so you don't have to worry about adding a ton of different routines for a while. The basic compound lifts will carry you for at least a year of consistent gains. When you realize where you are lacking (bottom of a deep squat, explosiveness, stability) then you should add in supplementary exercises
When I hit a 43 vert at my age, measurements and top lifts were
Height: 6’1
Age: 22
Weight: 185
Body Fat: 7-8%
Back Squat: 375
Front Squat: 305
Deadlift: 475
Power clean:265
Bench:285
Mind you I am a track athlete who jumps, so I had plyo training that helped me transfer my strength to power and speed. Never played basketball either. My inseam is I believe 37.5, so I have longer legs for someone my height if that even matters lmao.
Hey Isaiah! I’m just starting out and i have a slightly higher vertical off one leg than off two. Do you think I should keep jumping with one or two?
Yo Isaiah I'm curious do you ever plan to do a muscle biopsy? I'm curious what your fiber ratios are.
how much do those cost and where can you get them? Sounds interesting.
Does consistent jumping and dunking on low rims increase vertical progressively? Or do I need higher numbers in lifting to increase my potential of vertical?
just three dudes talking about their inches
5'9.75 @145lbs 7'8 reach (6'3 wingspan)
Squat: 275lbs (to parallel)
Hang Clean: 245lbs
SL Calf Raise: 415lbs
8" Box Step-up: 525lbs
Max vert: 47" (estimated)
Standing vert: 32.5"
Your standing and max vert are way too far apart
@@zbjzjdjdydhdhdhhs8855 tis the struggle of 1 foot hops
Bro tf how are you training to get that insane jump with that lift?
@@redlp1118 I'm a one foot jumper so I don't need strength at depth, and I feel like my lifts are pretty good if you ignore the squat.
Do you got any advice for dunking with your non dominant hand because for some reason I jump my highest off my right foot despite me being right handed
Practice! Don’t dunk with your other hand at all and within a week you’ll be way better
Bro y’all need some real sponsors
thank you
I’m 5’9” all I want is a 40 inch vert and to be able to dunk
My friend. You absolutely NEED to low rim dunk and lift. There is no way around it. And it is probably gonna take about a year before your slamming the hell out of it
@@charlesborel8493 thanks I’ll keep working
3-5% BF and hip thrusts in the 700s. Wow that is seriously intense dude. That's like NFL elite territory for someone your size. Cheers.
Get that NFL bodyfat shit out of here. Isaiah said it himself, and I would agree, that he is around ~10% bodyfat. 8-12% probably captures the correct answer. 3% is very close to death and 5% is what the top of bodybuilders go down to for competition.
@@jakob9942he’s definitely under 10% bro
@@jakob9942Bodybuilders also have titanic sized muscles. 6-7% is not crazy for active track type athletes.
@@jakob9942 I'm just going by what the trainer said in the video, that Bod Pod gave Isaiah a 3% measurement and that the error is 1-2%.which is what I read also. Cheers.
@@timothypollock8358 you are just incorrect, cheers. there are only a handful of people on planet earth who have been 3-5% body fat, most of which are on stage body builders after months of intense cutting. if he was 5% body fat, he would look like an anatomy chart. people this lean do not look human, veins everywhere, striations on top of striations, as the previous comment said, he is probably 8-12%. the fitness industry has made people completely delusional.
So when doing isometrics should I focus more on hold times or weight
Do you guys do sumo deadlift or conventional?
ATG shade go crazy
I’m 16 and 6’3 getting rim grazers need to hop on this 😭 every time I train consistent for month or so knee pain comes back 😭
Do isometrics every day even if it's your rest days, look up on Isaiah Rivera's isometric vid on his yt channel. That'll help you get rid of that knee pain
REVERSE SLEDS
fixed my patellar tendonitis
@@sfsaviationdidn’t completely fix mine but def helped it
Looks like the next one of these videos is about to have black cinematic bars and be in 24 fps.
My stats rn
Squat: 135lbs
Deadlift: 105lbs
Bench: 135lbs
Full Clean: 90lbs
Max Vert: 36"
I gotta get my strength up
Bro, if you have a 36” vertical and do a proper “strength training” program you’ll be hitting 400 lbs squat in six months from now.
How you jump so high with that strength?
No at u deadlift 105 but bench 135 ? That’s wild
@@zuko_fraggs a lot of people either don’t know how to pull or think their back is made of glass
@@redlp1118 Genetics and Volleyball I would say. But I just havent been at the gym much.
6,0
BW 190
Max squat 430
Max bench 275
Weighted pull up +150lbs
Max deadlift idk I don't deadlift
Max vert is 40 inch
is there a recorded video of John hitting 40+ inches?
Sorry, but during the week of unloading do I have to stay completely still?
For me 6ft, 230 lbs, age 32
HB Squat: 405 atg
F Squat 340 atg
Deadlift: 500 hookG
Bench: 295
P clean: 275
Weighted pull-ups: never tried, can probably 5 BW
Max vert so far: less then 20 might even be only 10 inches lol. i havent jumped in 8 years.
I’m 5’7(really 5’6.5) and I can grab a 10 foot rim off vert and I can get my wrist slightly above the rim when running(2feet) if my technique is good. The most I’ve ever done was a 205 pound quarter squat for 1 rep and a 135lb deep squat for barely 5-7 reps. Anyone know what my vertical is?
For me im 16, 5'7" and 132 lbs, standing reach is 7'0"
No idea what my squat or anything is, never trained weights but a tiny bit of plyo
current vert is 32 inches of one foot and 31.5 inches off 2 feet
current battle is getting to the rim on 10ft :)
Do pistol squats and jump
A lot of it comes down to natural athleticism. In high school I was 6”1 3/4 barefoot, standing reach of 7”11 (short arms), and highest touch was 11”4 off 2 feet. 41 inch vert. Never lifted weights, only work out I did was a vert shock program the summer before my senior year. Played volleyball, basketball, and soccer September-June.
I guess I just agree at minute 18. Your ability to transfer energy upwards. Now that I playing basketball 1x/week at most and do it less than half the year my fitness has decreased tremendously. Repetition without injury is everything. If I had the time to hoop every day and avoid knee pain I’m confident I could get that vert back again.
I’m a THP strength athlete and am wondering how I can get a THP shirt
Do you think lifting is a VITAL part of a dunk journey? Or will a standard plyo routine get you there eventually?
No you need to lift and periodize those lifts if you want to maximize your potential ! Plyometrics only really help if you combine them with strength training
If we’re talking about reaching your genetic potential then lifting is def necessary
@@charlesborel8493 Correction. Strength training adds to plyometrics but results can be achieved without lifting. I had Osgood-Schlatters in my left knee since I was 10 that made me walk with a limp by the time I was in middle school. A fall injured my left wrist freshman year of high school so I couldn't bench anymore and I never squatted because of my left knee. By the time I was 16 in 10th grade (2005) I was about 5'6 1/2" and trying to dunk everyday and only an inch or 2 away. I got jumper's knee the same year and learned about a jump program called Dunk Now so I did that the summer after 10th grade and part of my 11th grade year. I mainly did the first half of the program but only part of the second half. It was all plyometrics and, even though I did maybe 70% of it, I got my full vertical back plus a couple more inches and my jump mechanics were so much better and put less strain on my knees due to building my leg muscles plus my speed increased. I could easily grab rim at any park or gym with one step (I also grabbed rim at the Basketball Hall of Fame in 2005 before the jump program). I was just missing a good alley-oop to get a dunk down. My knees got worse and I gained weight and got more injuries so lost the vert for years but briefly regained it 2015-2017.
I do agree that lifting properly along with plyometrics can really help and may be the best way to jump your highest. I'm definitely adding some weights in to help with knee and back rehab and just get a lot stronger. I just wanted to point out that if you can't lift because of injury or some other issue, you can still get results doing body-weight training like plyometrics, calisthenics and sprinting. I did add weighted calisthenics back in 2015 and did some benching for a little while in 2016-2017 but had to stop. My stats:
Height - 5'7 3/4", Lean Weight - 145-152 LB (current weight 199/200 LB), Wingspan - 6'3-6'4", Bench - 215 LB (at weight ~175 LB in 2016), Weighted Pull ups - 100 LB, Weighted Dips - 145 LB, Squat - ~95 LB (knee pain so never did much), Max Vert - 35-37 inches, I don't remember my standing reach, only that it was over 7 feet.
Honestly, there is a genetic max for everyone. Some people may never be able to get over 30”. My best friend and I did the same training for several years and he ended up with a maximum of 29” vertical while I had a 42” vertical. We were just built differently. I’ll say this though, he ended up being crazy good at endurance running where I fail miserably.
never lifted weights in my life dunking at 5’11” 135 🤣🤣 strength isn’t the only thing that matters
Make a hip pain video please
Height: 5'3
137 lbs
Reach: 6'10
Max touch: 9'4.5
That means max two foot of
30.5
Bench: pushups
Rdl: 70
Bss: 70
Size 9 shoes 😂
Grab 9'3 of one
Yo, i got something in my knee called osgood schlater, if you have any information could you please tell me how to get rid of it, thanks.
Find someone who can do dry needling. 2 sessions and you'll be good
If you can windmill you can touch 11ft? What would that put my vertical at, at 5”7 and I can back rim eastbays on 9”9 9”10
your vert is probably anywhere between 36 and 43
@@veramiiI take it
Hi! In context of vertical jump train what do you think about traditional back squat vs box squat? Is the box squat better variation, because you can fire up?
The isometric/amortization phase of the squat (getting out the hole) is super useful so a normal squat def better.
@@isaakvanwegen2784a box squat is better for vertical jump than a regular squat . Don't give advice if you don't know, the reason is from the range of motion and one neglects the top portion of the lift and the box squat doesn't and the range of motion is more specific to jumping. Anything under 1 second doesn't translate to vertical jump when moving weight as far as a 1 on 1 carry over. You need to move fast enough to turn strength into power and that's the science/reason behind why a box squat is better for vertical jump and full squat is better for general strength.
How do you guys increase 1 foot jump
My vertical is 23” … it’s ass. I’m 190, 6’2 body fat around 16-17%
Quarter Squat: 315
Never done deadlift for max
Bench: 205
So staying consistent with jumping is key
How fast? (40y) standing long jump.
As a 15 year old these are my stats
Height: 5’10
Weight: 145
Bench: 125
Squat: 205 x3
Deadlift: 275
Standing vertical: 35 inches
Max vertical: 40 inches
I’m not capping I just have good genes for explosiveness ig.
I get it, and I think you guys deserve way more traction, but I see THP and KOT as a one two punch. As a former elite athlete who got it out the mud, and just my opinion after trialing methods plus my previous experience, they're like the rehab without surgery to your rehab after. They're the old man getting back after it to your elite athlete becomes superhuman. And both could be used interchangeably in certain circumstances. Y'all should pair-up in about 5 years...
dude said helldiver 2 and hit me right in the gut
*Ole Man Voice* "Boy I been playing small forward before I even named my step daddy James"... 😆 🪄🏀🔭💫🧬🌟🌟
Maxed Dunk is: toss up 360 around the back through the leg. I was 6'1" - 147lbs... 🏀
Cool
I know I’m late ash, but I actually got my name said in the video😭😭😭😭
6 feet
Max bench 220
Max squat 435
Max deadlift 525
Body weight 195
I can only grab the rim
Vertical is trash lol I'm trying to have a 40 inch vertical
Your strong bro if you lose about 5-10 pounds and start dunking on a low rim you will dunk
Get your body fat below 10% while keeping those strength numbers and practice max approach jumps 1-2 times per week for a year and you’ll FLY
@IsaiahRivera1 I have a heavy frame I've been told i don't look my actual weight. People say I look around 13% body fat. I'm also 36 and September will be year 2 of working out. Do u think a 40+ vertical is possible for me?
@@qb5 Yes dude it’s possible !!! I think you should also run some sprints, no doubt the BEST thing to lose body fat while retaining muscle
How strong do you think I am right now?
I'm 5'11 and 141 lbs
Squat: 220 lbs
Deadlift: 150 lbs
Bench: 80 lbs
Power Clean: 90 lbs
I have a relatively slim body frame and I also have like around 10% body fat
Are you half Filipino Isaiah?
My wife is
@@IsaiahRivera1 that's good to know!! Big fan from the Philippines!!
First month THP Athlete here:
5' 9" and 205 lbs 7' 6" reach without shoes
Squat: 335 lbs (raw)
Deadlift: 405 double (raw)
Power Clean: 225lbs
Power Snatch: Never done
RDL: Have not done a very heavy set before
Bench: 185 lbs
Weighted Pull-up: +50 lbs?
Max vert: ~35" at best, 32" right now
One foot jumper trying to switch to two foot
i think its ur weight thats holding u back, if u can cut correctly without losing significant strength and in a few months training u could be in the low 40s
but remember guys weigthroom/lifting strength is NOT the same as jumping strength
Please Isaiah get further away from the mic hahah
What do you think about dads 100 day journey to a 60 inch vert?🧐
0:19 like a kangaroo? 👀
You guys should pump Austin full of anabolic steroids to see if he can break Isaiah's record max vertical off one foot.
Lmfaoooo 😂
Austin said he’s down if you provide the steroids 😂
@@IsaiahRivera1 🤣
lmao im 6'3/190 pretty lean and i lift
squat: 365
deadlift: 425
bench: 275
but have a dogshit vert of 25" 💀
Somebody summarise this please.
For real lol no need for 18+ minutes
vids
No way Isaiah is 5% body fat, did I hear that right? How can you function without taking less than legal substances at that bf
Sorry but john doesnt have 42 vertical
He had, now he wants to get it back
How strong you are has nothing to do with your vertical. It’s all genetics and of course you can train and get it a little better. Same with sprinting. No matter how much you train or how strong you are… you will never be able to beat Usain Bolt unless you have 1 in 100billion sprinting genetics.
It’s all genetics is actually not true that’s incredibly complicated now yes you need a high combinations of things to beat the very fastest person out of 7 billion but every man on the planet above 5’5 has the genetics to be able to jump what you need is the patience to train an cultivate the muscle fiber combination that works best for your frame an to train your cns an mechanics to to fire an be efficient enough to get the most out of your genetics the problem with your thinking is low standards an justifying them with the best like not being able to beat Usain Bolt isn’t an excuse to be fast anybody can train to run under 10.5 society will tell you otherwise but people just don’t know how
I can’t jump for shit I’m around 6’ but can barely touch rim off 2 feet
Hey wtf John
These guys do not even understand what a vertical jump is. A running jump is not a vertical jump.
without jumping is a standing vertical
a vertical jump can be running
Standing vertical running vertical
Lol, helldivers players don't have neck beards
Maybe y’all don’t like kneesovertoes guy cuz his workouts work better 🤷♂️ he’s taking y’all’s job
If you can logically explain to me how they’re better for jumping higher I’ll switch to his style of training for the rest of my life 😂
Can I replace squat with hack squat?
nope, squat is better in every other way
@@teacup2686why?