Watch This Before Buying an Expensive Table Saw Blade
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
- Can you tell the difference when using a cheap table saw blade versus an expensive one? In this video I will compare an expensive Forrest Woodworker II table saw blade to an cheap Diablo blade. Which one will win?
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0:00 Intro
1:34 Differences in Diablo vs Forrest
3:32 Cutting with a Diablo Table Saw Blade
6:12 Cutting with a Forrest Woodworker II
8:36 Forrest Blade Worth It?
9:22 Which Blade Do I Use?
10:23 Which Table Saw Blade Should You Use
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Yeah, there was no bias in this comparison none at all
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i was about to ask lol thanks
@@jasonsahadeo5740 Bought my first forrest blade June3, 1998 its been kept clean and sharpened I think twice and still cuts great. Thin kerf blades can bend under load and over heat, it's a throw away blade good for rough work. I use them for working on my house, bought 2 in the past year. Just saying for fine work and longevity Forrest is the way to go.
If it's made in America, it's trash.
I thought I was splurging when I bought a Diablo blade LOL
lol
Lol right,
Agreed lol
Right there with you
Totally agree!
The burning and resistance you felt with the Forrest blade was in part because your blade was too low. The rake etc of the Forrest is designed for more height. You can read more about burning on the instruction sheet that came with the blade. The rubber coating on the blade teeth is to prevent nicking or cracking the carbide teeth. I did a comparison and the Forrest consistantly gave me a sanded smooth edge. The Diablo was ok, but just not as smooth. Thanks for the vid.
And here I thought the Diablo blades were expensive LOL
lol
I thought the same thing! I’ve had two Diablo reciprocating saw blades and they’ve lasted me a lot longer than any other blade I’ve owned.
If you look on Amazon for Diablo blades, they are the highest ranked blades as of 10-14 days ago, or maybe I just set a price range? I've seen several videos saying a higher tooth blade will reduce edge tear out, along with a tighter cover around the blade which gives edge support to your wood as close to the blade as possible, which also helps prevent tear out.
Diablo blades can be fragile depending on what they hit. But honestly, it's really stupid to resharpen Forrest at retail prices. Unless you run a cabinet shop with a regular discounted sharpening services that picks up and delivers, there is no way that a Diablo is more costly.
For framing and smaller project, I just pop on a 7.25 Diablo framing blade on a 7485 saw. Who cares if they go bad if they only cost 5 bucks and cuts all day long. ALOT less dust too. You can often find their 40 tooth finishing blade in 7.25" for very good prices on local ads. Some people sell them cheap by the bulk.
@@MintStiles it cost 20 bucks to resharpen the blade. A Diablo 10” blade range from 35-60 bucks.as well you can resharpen a Forrest blade 50 times. I have saved more in the last 3 years now running a Forrest blade then buying several Diablo blades. I burned through several Diablo blades cutting hardwood as that’s all I mainly cut. (Like 2 a week) vs sharpening my Forrest blade 3 times in the last 3 years. It’s made it’s money and more. Diablo is fine for Light hardwood but not 3” thick stuff I cut daily.
The differences in the blades observed are probably more due to the fact that one is a 60 tooth and the other is a 40 tooth. Also, the Diablo is a thin kerf, while the Forrest is a full kerf blade which may make an even bigger difference. The Delta saw that you have will have an easier time driving the thin kerf than the full kerf. Commercial table saws tend to the 3hp or 5hp so the kerf difference won't matter in those cases as much.
Possibly so. Thanks
The WWII is also a thin kerf blade.
@@dimensionswoodworks This one is standard Kerf. You can see it at the beginning of the video when he shows the packaging. The thin kerf is optional.
Two very different blades. Dudester it the nail on the head. When I had a smaller HP table saw, thin kerf was the only way to go (like Diablo used here). A standard kerf blade (like WWII used here) would bog down and leave more burn marks. Add to it the additional number of teeth on one blade versus the other and the experiment has too many different variables to come to a reasonable conclusion. I’d love to see all variables the same, Diablo vs Forrest!
Love your videos 731 Woodworks.
Also the higher end blades are pretty cheap to have sharpened and you can get as many as 10 sharpenings on one blade so the overall savings over time is pretty substantial. But I totally use diablo or Freud myself. Both very good blades for the price
For this to be a true test both blades would have to be of the same tooth count. Also, you should have had some sort hold down mechanism in play to keep the boards from raising off the table. I believe the burning took place near the ends because during the transition of pushing by hand then going to the push stick the blade was allowed to dwell there and and possibly burnish the board and the slight pinch it caused. I always leave the thin strips to the outside of the blade for better flow speed throughout the cut. Just my two cents.
But he mentioned the difference in teeth many times😁
@@gregboggs2708 That still doesn't compensate for the difference in tooth count. It's still comparing two entirely different blades that are designed to do two entirely different things and give you two entirely different cuts, and then trying to determine which gives a better cut. That's like comparing a V8 to a 4 cylinder, and then claiming the 4 cylinder is better because it gets better gas mileage.
I agree 💯 with you, how do you test two completely different blades against each other??!? The burning is operator error, to avoid burning, on ANY blade you've got to know how to read the grain and which direction to cut, which face up/down etc.
I bought a Forrest Woodworker II when I 1st began doing work and I was building my shop solely on the fancy pants ads in mags, silly, I know, but here, 28 years later!!!!! and I still love it every time I use it!!!! I keep it for woods ONLY!!! For all other materials I use the crappier diablo and Freud blades.
It is difficult to controll "crap construction grade" lumber when it is not flat or straight to begin with.
Terrible comparison
Why not do it fair?
I feel the tooth count difference will affect the outcome and I'm personally not to thrilled with the experiment due to this simple oversight. I'd like to see it done again with same tooth count
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Not just tooth count, but Rake also. Both factors make a significant difference in cut quality and longevity.
Stop trying to justify yourself for spending 150 on a blade :-)
@@4dchessplayer516 That Forrest blade is very nice and cheaper in the long run after all the sharpenings you get. Lot of carpenters will tell you to spend your money on high quality blades and bits, ( router or drill bits).
@@nico8587d this is what I was thinking. And when cutting plywood’s their blades are best
I really appreciate that you made this video! I just asked you about saw blades a week or so ago and this is exactly what I was hoping for. Thanks so much, Matt!
Glad to help
I just want to say thank you for the videos you make and the information you share. I’m just getting into woodworking and am really excited to develop some new skills. You’re giving me the inspiration and courage to try! I wish I had a table saw, but thankfully I have some good friends who offered theirs for me to try
Start building and the tools will come with time
Been using the Forrest WWII for twenty years. A great investment. Very versatile. I switch to a Diablo or even cheaper blade on lumber than might have nails or dirt and rocks. If you want to be amazed try using a 7 1/4" or 8" thin kerf blade. Feels like you doubled the size of the motor.
thank you
Been waiting on this one!
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Excellent job, and comparison!
Well done!
Honest opinions, love it! Thanks!
I have the same saw and recently bought high(er) end Amana and CMT blades. Personally, the longevity in sharpness of the higher quality blades outweighs the problems I encounter with a dull cheaper blade. Also, the Forrest is a full 1/8 kerf whereas the diablo or other box store blade is generally a thin kerf blade. Our saws need to work harder with the full kerf blades, but I've adjusted feed speed and am very happy :)
thank you
A couple of further points of consideration, The HP of the saw being used. The Forrest blade is much heavier at a full1/8" kerf and massive carbide tips that can be re-sharpened numerous times (Forrest provides this service as well), The Diablo I believe is a "Thin" kerf blade at 3/32". I own the Forrest box joint set of blades and my saw is under 3hp and it is noticeable when the saw is first starting as to the weight difference as opposed to using a standard Dado set. The Freud is still a great blade, likely better for the occasional woodworker and the Forrest blade I would typically expect to see more often used in a more professional setting.
So glad you did this video! Was very curious as to how different these blades were. Thanks Matt! 😁👍
You’re welcome
Thanks for this video. Watching this led me to watch some of your other content. I'm recently retired and was planning on doing some woodworking to sell and supplement my income. I'm finding your videos informative and inspirational. Thanks for that. I'm looking forward to watching your past and future content.
Thank you
Thanks for that Matt! Glad to hear my Diablos can still hang with the spendy blades!
I was actually surprised
When I get a better saw I will start buying higher end blades. I can’t justify putting a 150 blade on a 300 saw. Just doesn’t seem right to me. Still saving for my sawstop
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Very interesting to see this play out. Thanks for sharing.
Glad it helped
Right there with you, sir. I have used (not bought) some very expensive blades myself. Diablos blades are awesome and my blade of choice in my shop. I have them on my miter saw, table saw and circular saw. Thanks for the comparison and all the content you put out
thank you
I have been running a small wood working business for several years. I struggled with this question for a while and here is my opinion. The diablo blades are great, i like them a lot. The blade and carbide teeth tend to be thinner....so they are not hogging as much material as the thicker more expensive blades. I actually felt the diablo blades could cut thicker stock better as long as it was a fairly sharp blade. Where the thicker more expensive blades excel is the precision cuts. If you make boxes for example and you need perfect 45 degree cuts....measured to the thousands of an inch. The diablo blades either flex during the cut or just arent able to cut consistent enough to give you that type of precision. If you had a professional grade saw.....thicker (full kerf) blade....probably work better.
makes sense. Thank you
I appreciate you doing beginner wood working project with beginner wood working tools. A lot of guys on YT use Festools and show how to do beginner projects. I’m not mad at them and I’d like to upgrade one day to those types of quality tools but you show people how to do it with the tools they have. God bless brother.
Thanks 👍
FYI The dust collection shroud has tabs on the side that pull up and allow the side to open and give you room to add and remove blades. Thanks, awesome content.
Most honest answer I've seen yet. As you said, for the products your making it's a no brainer. I honestly feel the same about festool. You see guys online with $5000 table saws making $100 cutting boards. Then you watch a guy in the Amazon make a cutting board with a rock and some sand and realize it's not the big $$$ tool all the time.
I'd like to see more videos like this! That fence on your table saw
looks like the ones on $3500 saws. Saving up to get me one. Thanks.
thanks. It's a nice saw
If you can find them in stock,his is a delta 36-725. I bought the slightly newer 36-725t2 model that's 15amps instead of 13,and it has the thin strip ripping attachment on the fence. Its hands down the best saw in that price range($599). If you decide to get one,do yourself a favor and order the dado insert for another $39 on lowes website. I also recently found and bought an old craftsman moulding head cutter and it fits through the dado insert whereas many dado inserts are to narrow for a moulding head cutter. My saw has been dead on accurate and solid as a rock for over a year now. Hope you enjoy yours.
good video!!! I'm just at the point where my Diablo needs to be replaced (used for a year, probably 50 hours cut time) and Mrs KiltsCanDo suggested a More expensive blade like a forrest. so this video came JIT!
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Is it something you can actually quantify to say it's better?
I agree with you. Have a Wonderful and Blessed Day!!! 😀
Thank you! You too!
I love that you used the free blade you got to test for us beginners....great video brother, I hope you’re able to do more “vs.” videos!!!
More to come!
I'm a Diablo fan, especially compared to the factory blades on the cheaper to midrange tools. I will say that I recently had upgrade to a carbide ripping blade for 8/4 red oak on a current project. Diablo was burning and struggling. Still a Diablo fan, but learning to use the right blade for the job
They are good
I’ve used both, and many other blades. The real difference comes in time. While they’ll both cut wood , my Forrest has been on my saw (the exact same saw that you have ) for over a year. And the cut quality is absolutely SUPERIOR. Especially on plywood, the finished cut is still perfect and all I’ve done is clean the blades.
On another note, the “silicone” (wax) around the Forrest is to protect the teeth from getting banged up during shipping. Also get yourself a telescopic mechanic magnet for that arbor nut that always seems to fall 😂
lol thank you
Thanks for posting this! It's time for me to change my saw blade on my table saw. And I recently purchased a 5 1/2" 20V Porter Cable saw that needs a blade, because the one that came with it doesn't cut worth a flip. I now know which brand to get for both of these.
Glad I could help
I am a Diablo combo blade guy because they are sharp: they are thin kerf; they use a very good anti-virbration system (does not ring like a bell): can be resharpened (about $20); and often on sale. Good video
Matt, thanks for the shoutout to Working The Grain hardwoods variety pack! A virtual fist bump back to you bro. Keep up the great content and educate us all!
WTG Hardwoods
Thank you 👊🏻
Somebody explained it well by saying that the value is in the longevity. Brand new, both blades will cut excellent. But when it’s time to get them sharpened, which costs about 25$, I will spend 25$ to get back basically a new 30$ blade with Diablo. I will spend 25$ to get back a new 150$ blade with Forrest.
Exactly. And some of the ulra premium blades you can get 10 sharpenings from a single blade saving a huge amount over the entire life
Thank you. You just save me a lot of money.
Glad I could help!
I have the diablo 50 tooth combination blade in my table saw and the compound miter saw. Haven't looked back since!! Great video.
Good choice!
Man! You have GENEROUS viewers!
I’m with you brother. For cost of one Forest River, I bought 3 Diablo blades, (24 tooth for ripping, 50 tooth for general purpose and an 80 tooth for fine finishes) for less than that one blade. I’m an average Joe so average tools are just fine for me.
Yes I do. Very generous. We have been blessed
I applied the same logic to my chop saw, and i'm well happy with it. not got space for a table saw tho...
I get my Diablo blades re-sharpened locally for $.25 per tooth ($15 for a 60 tooth) . With 4 in rotation I never have to worry about having a sharp blade on hand.
Nice
forrest blade can be sent away and get sharpened for free for life.
This does appear to be bad info. My mistake.
Great review
I bought a 60 tooth Amana blade for my table saw 18 years ago! It has finally gotten to the point where it is too dull to use. I forget how much I paid for it, but it was over $100. I know it sounds unbelievable, but true. Now, I don't do production work and the hardest wood I cut is cherry and oak, but it has worked fine until recently. I just bought 60 and 80 tooth Diablo blades for my Delta table saw (10") and Dewalt miter saw (12"), but haven't used them yet, I'll let you know how they turn out. My old Delta 10" miter saw has gone through a ton of cheap blades, but I cut all kinds of things on it, including aluminum and Hardy board siding.
Hey Matt - just want to commend you on your hard work! I started following you when you had under 25k subscribers, and look at you now - you and Mrs. 731 are officially the hardest working couple in woodworking!
My wife and I were also married on 7/31 by the way. Maybe we should collaborate on a 731 club! Cheers!
Thank you. That’s awesome 👊🏻
@@731Woodworks Hmmmm... I am new here. I thought 0731 was 1 Corinthians 7:31- Those who use the things of the world...
Another 731 couple over here.
@@martingayle5376 I thought maybe 731 was their house number. can you clarify why you chose the name?
Buy one blade that I will need to spend more money on to have it sharpened, and also be without it for at least a week while it is shipped out of my shop, or buy four Diablo blades that can be swapped out in minutes and let you continue making sawdust?
It’s a no brainer. You’d need at least two Forrest blades if you don’t want down time in your shop.
Exactly
Good point.
good video thanks for the info
You bet
Glad to hear you're sticking with Diablos. They have been my blades of choice on my TS (same 1060X) & CS (0760). Just love them. And for those claiming longevity of the Forrest, I wonder if it is more than 4.2 times long lasting without sharpening?
I wouldn't think so
I absolutely love and recommend my Forrest blades. The cut quality, is amazing, the ability to resharpen is fantastic and the blades overall are just better.
For the average homeowner or DIY person. No, you don’t need Forrest. But if you care, and you use a saw daily, you’ll love Forrest.
Thank you
Agree, there are some differences between the blade, Thin Kerf (0.098" on the Diablo) and Full Kerf (0.125" on the WW2) (+27% more material to remove) ontop of the tooth difference. (40 v 60T) and tooth profile. Additionally because they are made locally (NJ) the support is local for the Professional. Given the circumstances, Matt's outcome was fair, and I would of been supprised if he recommended it for the small project maker/DIY-er.
Its essentially the saw blade version of a Festool ETS 125 vs a DeWalt DWE6423.
Love Diablo blades! Had good luck with Dewalt as well. $150? It better last all year.
lol for sure
Good info, thanks
Glad it was helpful!
I use Diablo very often
Really was looking forward to this video. Originally, I thought Doablo. Now, I'm reconsidering. Thanks for another informative video.
Thank you
I've actually had good luck with an Irwin Marples blade from lowes
nice
I’m going to guess that, out of the box, you won’t be able to tell the difference. I think the difference is going to come over time (longevity).
Thank
How many times can you sharpen a Diablo blade?
I know Forrest blades can be sharpened multiple times.
☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻 This guy is ABSOLUTELY correct 😃
@@andrewnayl Diablo can also
@@LemonySnicket-EUC I’m willing to bet Forrest blades hold their edge longer and can be sharpened more. However, for the average person, I think Diablo blades are plenty sufficient. Forrest seems to be tailored more towards professional wood workers.
To me it looked like the kerf of your blades were different. The Forest is taking a lot of wood out at one time (better for more hp saws) The Diablo was taking out less wood... The thin kerf will help when you only have a 2hp saw or less. This is why I bought the Spyder blade rather than the manufacture blade. Thanks for doing this video!
I love an honest comparison. Well done!
Thank you
You think this was an honest comparison are you kidding me
@@williamhudson8493 if there was 1 thing that would have made it completely even, it would be 40/60 tooth on both. Aside from that, it was great.
One reason that the Forrest burned is the tooth geometry. The Forrest teeth are parallel and polished on the sides where the Diablo teeth are beveled on the sides for more clearance in the kerf.
Thanks for the info
I'd be interested in seeing what the results would be after using each of them for a couple months or so. Not that I'm anywhere near the $150 blade stage yet. I've still got my woodworking training wheels on. 😆
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Don't be afraid to buy it I bought my first one about 20 years ago I have four of the woodworker II and several other Forrest blades until they come out with something better I refuse to buy anything else
I used my woodworker 2 blade everyday in my shop and only send them out to be sharpened after 3 to 4 months worth of use a cut primarily Hardwoods such as red oak and hard maple touch me don't be afraid of the blade LOL
I'm a trim/cabinet carpenter with 15 years in the craft I used to favor Irwin blades until about 6 years or so ago when I had to buy a diablo 7 1/4" in a pinch and I loved the ease of the cut not the speed it doesn't really cut faster then any other blade but it's definitely a clean crisp cut line also I noticed that the 6 1/2" diable blade on my 20v dewalt skill saw lasted alot longer by atleast %30 I just wished they made diablo vibra-saw blades or maybe they do and I haven't seen the yet ...anyway stick with diablo Matt you won't regret it and I love your chanell keep making saw dust!
Yes I use them both. They each have there own use. Biggest difference to me my contractor saw I started with has less power for 1/8 kerf of the Forrest but Diablo being thin kerf. However my 12” 5 hp cabinet saw which has power like crazy I mostly use the Forrest. Saw power makes a difference too!
awesome. thanks for sharing
I'd love to see the same test and include a 7 1/4" circular saw diablo blade on the tablesaw.
Would it fit?
@@charlieodom9107 I use a 7 1/4" Diablo on my TS when ripping and it makes a world of a difference.
and thanks again Matt for another great video
I really hope there’s not much a difference, just so I don’t need to start wanting one.
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Your video skills have come a long way lol. You are hilarious thank you. Very entertaining keep it up.
Thank you
Great content! I agree. I use the Diablo 90 tooth blade for everything
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I’ll never be without my Forrest.
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haha I can't even get my head around those expensive blades LOL not only can I not afford them I to use Diablo and the same one for quite some time now and have even cut through a screw not intentionally and its still cutting good not great as before but I would still be kicking myself had I done that on a $150.00 blade LOL
For sure they are very expensive
Ditto that Graff! Been excited to watch this.
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+ 1 for Working the Grain Hardwoods in Bentonville, AR. Great selection of domestic and exotic woods, very knowledgeable, very friendly, and GREAT prices.
I really appreciate them
try a ridge carbide blade and start wearing your dust mask with these woods your lungs cost more than any saw blade
thanks
Pshh, saw dust makes you 💪. Guess bullying is bad too?
"Ripping boards and praising the lord!"
Your welcome lol
ha, that is fantastic!
Love your videos looks like you were always having issues getting the nut on the bolt for your tablesaw. Since you make jigs for everything, make an easy jig to drop the nut in that you can hold down there for easy access.
I have an Inca Table Saw that I restored, and the only blade I could find for it with a 20mm arbor hole was an 8" 40 tooth from Forest. I have come to love the blade I got from them as it cuts like a dream. I have another table saw that has a 10" 60 tooth Diablo installed, and I find myself using the Inca with the Forest Unless I am ripping sheets in which case an Inca is to small.
thanks
The Forrest blade has a much higher amount of carbide on the teeth and is able to be sharpened numerous times. It will far outlast your next $150 in diablo blades. At this level woodworkers are likely sharpening the blades themselves.
Thank you for the info
I dont think it was a fair test with the tooth count being different, That being said no way I can afford 150 for blade.... Diablo yes
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Great video 👊
Appreciate it!
Agree with you Matt 💯. You the man, buy 4.2 Diablo blades over 150 dollar blade day or night. Love your videos,keep it up.
Thanks 👍
I really like the Diablo blades. I also have Freud thin kerf blades for my job site saw. Less teeth for ripping and a dedicated rip blade will make a big difference. I would say the burning was because the saw bogged down a little.
I am not sure if you have the same type a table saw. But on the job site saw that I use. I can get the bolt off and back on easy when I raised the blade completely up. You might have already done that possible
Long time Freud customer. Love having a good ripping blade and a good plywood blade. And I don't mind it when I need to replace them
Nice video. I have a question: Is it useful or overkill to have 2 circular saws, on with a special blade for ripping and one with a special blade for crosscutting, because i don't like swapping blades, making the circular saw screw dull. Hope to hear from you soon. Many thanks in advance
I work at Forrest manufacturing and we do servicing on all blades if there's not too many broken tips..
I was part of a crew installing kitchens in a hi rise in NYC. The cabinets were a gel coat . Cutting fillers we would use the Diablo Blades. They were excellent. Any cheaper blade chipped cuts after one apartment, and Diablo Blades lasted for 2 floors of Kitchens. And would still be good for cutting anything that didn't have a hi dollar finish. Can't beat those blades.
Awesome!
I have a Diablo on my mitre saw and makes very nice cuts but since I bought the Forest blades at a wood show for my tablesaw that's what I'm using on it and it sure does make some clean cuts
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You are right, unless you’re a professional making high-end items. Appreciate your work.
I appreciate that!
I use a 40 tooth for almost all my table saw work. The only exception is real thick material, which I use a 24 tooth ripping blade. I have used a 60 tooth blade for plywood, but I usually just stick with my 40 tooth. My radial arm saw and miter saw keep 60 tooth blades for clean crosscut. I've never had an expensive blade. My rip blade is an old irwin marathon blade and my 40 tooth is an Irwin marple blade I've had for years. I have other old blades I've bought and sharpened from discount stores and flea markets
Nice review. Any blade will scorch the wood in between pushes and that is common. I use Tenryu Gold blades and they retail for about $125. I notice that they are much less prone to deflection and even with a lower tooth count (40 tooth) it provides a very clean cut. I cant wait to see your opinion after a month.
thanks
I have a full kerf Diablo ATBF blade. I really like it. You don’t find this one at a big box store. Only mail order or woodworking stores. Every 5th tooth is flat. I also have a Ridge Carbide full kerf combination blade. It’s a little cheaper than the Forrest but an incredible blade. Great cuts. No burning.
Yup - I’m definitely in the “disposable” blade camp here. It’s less hassle to just buy a new blade than to send it off and wait for it to come back, plus, of course, you need another blade to use while you’re waiting, so for a Forest blade it’s not $150 but $300.
Great comparison video. Thanks for sharing. My cheap table saw (135 Euro - 160 USD) came with 2 blades included in the price.
No name brand of the blades but the cutting is OK. I don't use the table saw very often yet. I only have it 4 months in use now.
My sliding mitre saw is more than 10 years old. Last year I changed the blade for the first time. It had become "a little" dull.
I bought some 7€ (9USD) saw blades and I couldn't believe how much difference that makes. I hope to spend more time in my shop the coming years.
So maybe in the future I'll buy expensive DIABLO blades.
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thank you for the review and advice videos. just wondering when the next project video is going to come out.
Probably be a few more weeks. We are dealing with 12” of snow so it delayed our next project since it’s an outdoor sectional project
@@731Woodworks thanks for the reply hope y'all thaw out quick and stay safe.
Thanks Matt, Diablo 12" on my miter saw and I just got a two pack of 10" Dewalt 40 and 80 tooth. Have not installed yet. I will let you know if I like the d,walt when I use one. Diablo has served me well on the miter saw so far. Very fine cut.
I like DeWalt blades as well
@@731Woodworks Update, put dewalt 80 t on the cobalt 10-15 t/saw. It works like a knife through butter and very smooth cut. Made a drawer for my wrk table just for kicks and it did great. Just thought you would like to know.
I like your channel and expected better on this one. I have had a Forrest blade and it is incredible. Also very expensive. I bought mine 22 years ago for a specific project. It makes more precise cuts and the cuts leave no saw marks.
I would never let my Forrest blade get gummed up cutting soft wood. I only put it on my table saw when I am making final cuts on hardwood. 22 years later it still makes flawless, no sanding required, cuts.
Bro I'm not going to get all high and mighty, with the tooth count isn't the same, the kerf is different, and longevity, ect........ I'm just going to be real, and tell you thank you bro! Thank you for showing me that my $30 60 tooth dablo saw blade is going to be everything I needed to be and more. You reminded me I don't have to be a millionaire to be a good Carpenter! Which I find in almost every other video these guys doing reviews on certain items compared to their top of the line most expensive version of that item. Thank you bro I appreciate you man! Please keep doing what you're doing!!!! I get the most from your videos.
You are 100% correct on the blade choice when you can buy 4 of the cheaper blades that perform well for the projects you make, I feel like that status of saying "My blades are $150 each" just proves the old saying that a "Fool and his money are soon parted" My dad always taught me do make do with what have. Great comparison!
Definitely an Apples and Oranges kind of comparison, BUT, I am Really thankful you did this. I have been wondering about the high end Blade, If I would benefit by having it. My quick answer is, No I would not. Maybe when I advance my skills and experience, but for now, I'm good with Diablo. Thanks Matt, once again you saved me more $$$$.
glad it helped
I'm thinking there may be somewhere in between those that's a good compromise but I'm not sure. My saw came with a CMT blade on it which I think is double the Diablo in cost but has worked very well for me since I got the saw.
I've heard from several that say the CMT blade is the in between of the two. Lots swear by the CMTs
You are correct. My feelings exactly. I have paid a lot more than $35 for Diablo blades....90 tooth miter, 72 tooth table saw. My miter saw blade is about a year and a half old, still cuts fine.
Excellent video and information. Just curious about a couple of things...1) do you use combo blades or do crosscutting blades...2) how often do you replace blades...what's the optimal number of teeth for clean cuts? I think I read somewhere that a combo blade doesn't cut as clean as a crosscut blade. I guess when I get to replacing blades I'd put a crosscut blade on the miter saw and the combo blade on the table saw.
I use that 60 tooth Diablo for everything. It works very well for me. I usually replace them about every 6 months
Great video.
Thank you
Great video. A comparison of the blades with the same tooth count would be awesome!
For sure
As a rank amateur, I think I'd rather see this done with identical blades just because I don't know what I don't know about a number of things mentioned in the comments by others. I think the last blades I bought were Dewalt, and they seem to be working quite well. I am going to try the Diablo next time around. Thanks for the review though. It has caused me to look more into what makes one blade better than another, as well as the various uses they are suited for.
i used to work in saw sharpening and repair that stuff around the blade (cant remember what its called its been a few years) its to prtect the tct tips in transport they break very easy if knocked
thanks
I have been using DeWalt blades for the past ten years,they offer a extremely good quality cut of hardwood and plywood for the money. I use DeWalt blades on all three of my miter saws ,on my 10 inch 12 in and my table saws and my radial arm saws with no problem