*1-1 Mentorship Information: Price & Structure (Maximum Capacity = 20 Clients Per Year)* It's an absolute pleasure to film these TH-cam videos, and I feel fortunate to receive an abundance of meaningful messages every week, but I am unfortunately faced with the disappointing reality of turning away the vast majority of people who want to work together. I have significantly limited availability and can only support twenty people per year because I do not offer one-off calls or drop-in consulting sessions. Twenty individuals might not sound like maximum capacity, but the last few years of teaching have taught me the importance of maintaining tight energetic boundaries if I want to keep uploading these free videos in addition to serving my current clients to the best of my ability in 2024. To minimise confusion and enhance transparency, I've spent several hours writing this ridiculously long comment to help you decide if my Inner Work Mentorship is the right choice for your development & what you could reasonably expect from working closely together. Please take the time to read this service description before contacting me on Instagram… or feel free to stop reading right now if you’re not interested in my fees, session structure, client expectations, etc. ... *READ BEFORE SCROLLING FURTHER:* I'm interested in long-term change and structural transformation, which is why I've never offered one-off sessions. Complex issues cannot be resolved in a few hours, but we likewise need to define an upper limit for containment and collaboration. I've learned that deep and enduring self-integration requires at least four months of immersive effort. Why four months? It's enough weekly contact for us to work through multiple complex issues and developmental possibilities, but short enough to mitigate against unconscious co-dependency and motivational stagnation. I'm currently accepting a maximum of two new clients per month - message me after reading the following section to check my availability. ... *HOW I WORK & WHO I WORK WITH* Unlike other coaches and teachers who take an understandably more relaxed approach to healing and integration, my mentorships are characteristically intense. This is a highly-demanding, high-investment process which requires our consistent combined effort over a period of four months. If we were to start working together, I would reasonably expect you to be excited to show up for a minimum of 10+ hours of self-motivated transformative practice per week (daily reading, fitness routine, creative exercises, spiritual reflection, etc.) while also maintaining full-sobriety (no drink, no drugs, no cigarettes, no vapes). These strict standards of discipline and sobriety are plainly unsuitable for most people in most situations - even genuinely motivated individuals who resonate with my TH-cam videos may not be the right match for four months of structured mentorship. If you want to get deeper, I've noticed that there's a certain type of ‘temperament' & 'timing’ to get the most out of me. I'm interested in alert, creative and purpose-driven individuals who aspire to exceptional standards of self-maturation and would enjoy the feeling of going through week-on-week of progressively stacked transformative experiences for a third of a year: my ideal client is somebody who is willing to bring forward their internal complexity with a sense of courage and transparency with the intention of nothing less than full-spectrum transformation & rapid acceleration on their personal path. I am yet to discover another supportive figure who offers something comparable to this mentorship: a four-month, structured yet flexible 1-1 container which is simultaneously therapeutic, academic and action-oriented; with primary focus placed on tangible improvements in your felt sense of self-knowledge and self-integration; in addition to making consistent and meaningful progress towards your unique goals and mentorship aspirations. I prioritise contact, compassion and accountability, which means that your work never really 'ends' at the end of your session. You can reasonably expect to be fed dozens of customised reading suggestions and follow-on perspectives outside of the formal sessions via friendly and informal messenger contact, where I am active and available four days per week to cultivate an intimate personal connection while likewise enhancing your positive momentum via accountability check-ins and additional support as required. By way of conclusion for what feels like an extraordinarily long comment and service description, I feel compelled to once more emphasise that working directly with me is unrealistic for most people in most situations. I often support people who are accustomed to wrestling with the emotional challenges associated with working through complex wounds in previous therapeutic relationships before we begin our coaching work together. Even individuals without 'hard trauma' can expect moments of pressurised darkness and heaviness during periods of shadow contact as you begin to restructure your personal unconscious. We will be exploring your psyche and soma at scale and depth, and it will be your responsibility to keep me informed about the emotional texture of your internal reality, especially if you encounter negatively charged experiences, and I will of course do everything in my power to support you through the hard times as we integrate the darkness and move forwards together. TH-cam is a wonderful place for me to share free research resources and offer accessible inner work invitations; my private mentorships, however, are the place for collaborative partnership and emotional security as we identify, navigate and restructure oftentimes confronting and challenging conscious and unconscious physical, emotional and mental material. Ultimately, this is a highly-demanding but highly-rewarding process which requires the best of our shared intentions. ... *SESSION STRUCTURE & FEES:* The total fee for an Inner Work Mentorship (including 12 x 2 hr sessions) is £7,400 GBP or approximately $9,400 USD. This is my only coaching programme, and my mentorship pricing is liable to adjustment over time.
Each private session lasts two hours, and is facilitated via Telegram video call at an ideal time for both of us. Your mentorship extends over a linear four-month period, with a total of twenty-four hours of structured session time, in addition to four days per week of unlimited messenger availability for accountability updates, voice note exchanges and informal calls upon occasion. I do not work on Mondays, Tuesdays or Wednesdays, but I am fully-available across all timezones for regular calls and messenger contact on Thursday - Sunday. If you’ve scrolled this far, and resonate with what I’m offering, I invite you to message me on Instagram. It would be my pleasure to start exploring your goals and intentions in real-time. IMPORTANT: I am an intentionally independent coach, and not a licensed therapist or associated with any professional bodies or coaching institutions, and therefore enjoy the freedom to collaborate with my clients across all areas of life in an intimate, direct and highly involved coaching style. I work with no more than twenty people per year, and am currently accepting a maximum of two new clients per month. I also manage my own inbox and do not use automated systems or employ people to pretend to be me on Instagram, which means that it usually takes four to six weeks for me to respond to new messages and begin the interview process. Although my approach takes time, I hope you ultimately appreciate my personal emphasis on authentic and confidential communication from the very beginning of our relationship. I once again encourage you to message me immediately if you want to start working together within the next two months - bump yourself to the top of my inbox, and I’ll send you some voice notes to get our conversation started.
ahhh, wish I had this when I was a teenager. Growing up in the era of South Park, Rick & Morty, Family Guy, etc etc. There's a sweet sting with this type of humor. Something dark and cynical can be as refreshing as coffee in small doses (especially in angsty teen years). But bitterness is better as a small portion of a daily diet. "Proportionality" as you say. Occasionally a hint of darkness as the frosting but never the whole cake!
Right, I’ve never been more unhealthy than when I was consuming family guy every evening as a teenager. There’s something very stunting about that kind of humour, South Park likewise feels stagnant for me. Small doses sure, but the honest reality is that it just doesn’t feel that good compared to deep humour and lighter humour… it’s a deep chat, and good to see you here again, Amy! 🌲
I think it's related to the inhibition of expression-- environmentally, socially, and psychologically. Such as Chekhov started out writing career as an author for humorous journals - the humorous columns didn't satisfy him, so his sense of humor got darker and darker as the series progressed. What was not permissible for expression morphed into dark humor. Though I think being satirical is not necessarily a sign of surrender or stagnation. satire itself as a genre was often a form of resistance that eludes direct confrontation and immediate consequences, or as a art form that tries to make sense of the gap between 'portrayed/imagined image' and 'actually there'. Your ideas reminded me of David F. Wallace's discussion on the very danger of irony - he basically said the same thing. He said being ironic underlies our acceptance of what we oppose. This video also reminded me of Klein, who said (to put it crudely), once you get depressed, you're healed. Though I wonder, should there be any certain rules to navigate this? I can see that being satirical (in daily scenes) is like wearing a mask, a split persona who assumes the role of both the abuser and the reenactor of the dormant victim within. But is a cry better than a laugh? Or, maybe, a good laugh is better than a bitter laugh? Thank you for this intriguing topic.
You have a very cultured and sophisticated response here, thanks for adding this. I enjoyed reading your words and absolutely see a place for measured darkness or sarcasm when appropriate. You’re right that the issue is frequency and things like daily sarcastic undercurrents - not healthy.
Notice all of the "comedians" mocking people for not participating in the jab agenda? Trying to use fear of being mocked/ridiculed to gain compliance much?
I worked mental health/care and probably didn't have the best childhood. It's always seemed to me that all humour is based in "victimhood", the butt of the joke is the victim and (I think) often, the laughter is relief that it's not you. Man slips on banana-skin and falls - it's the tension/release. I'm not refuting you, I think it's all a mix of feelings etcetera. I've cleaned up litres of feces and genuinely done so with kindness and treating the person with dignity: Subject into shower > clean bedroom > dude out shower, re-dressed clean and in bed > cigarette break > clean rest of the (multiple scenes) > handover to next day shift > handover/brief "poorly dude". There's no way to deal with that without gallows humour. The problem is, the World on the Outside is screwed, Environment/ecology, war, economics - shutting that noise out is nigh on impossible. I can't leave the house without headphones on in attempt to shut out those negative stimuli and I've made a conscious effort to listen to less angry music to more chilled, but again there's the external stimuli that are "wearing" at best - just the Newspaper rack in a shop, a homeless person, addict, chugger - all wearing/negative stimulus and that's not looking down on anyone - homelessness etc are complex issues that should be treated with empathy (and I personally try to), but that "dark cycle" is impossible to avoid. Yet not leaving the house (tried it) is just as bad, isolation, alienation, depression, darknes all descend with hobbies an attempt to fend them off. Everything can be delivered, but let's add in some mobility-disability so active hobbies are out. No win situation. You make great and astute points, I'm not disagreeing with the intent, just putting it into practice is...
You have very difficult and important work, and I want to thank you for sharing this here. I feel like I've gained some insights and appreciate your perspective - I know what you mean about the negative stimulus in the world especially.
I really see my younger self in this and as i read the comments it seems im not the only one. I used to call irony and sarcasm my best friends and from time to time be proud of it. I guess the first time it came to my mind this is not cool was when my mum said I was as sarcastic as my dad. I did definitely not want to be like him. Nowadays I prefer silly jokes or just playing aroung with words for example using homonyms etc.
Horror films and gore I feel is similar to this There is a place for it civilizations have been celebrated the dead for a long time : Halloween in the Irish ☘️ community, Day of the Dead 💀 in the Mexican community, the Chinese community has a holiday that honors the dead/ ancestors. I understand there is a place for it I am concerned that my step daughter is obsessed with gore, Halloween, dark music with dark depressing lyrics I prefer the light I prefer to seek higher consciousness
This is so wonderful, Jordan, and thank you for this. For a major part of my early 20's, I was made to feel like I was supposed to be okay with taking such humour on myself, and that there was either something wrong with me and that I had to "man up". At hindsight, I'd also participated in making such dark humour only to feel accepted by these individuals and to be perceived cool. Starting with my own journey of going within helped me to realise that I did not have to try to fit in, but just accept myself. Be an embodiment of my truth. Thank you brother 🙏🏼❤
Schadenfreude occurs in the world at large quite often. I knew I was healing when I generally stopped engaging in it and started noticing the times I still may feel it, using that as an opportunity to take a look at what I'd still like to work on. I think you're right that it kept me safe in the past, by keeping my boat afloat, but it's much more relaxing and harmonious to go through the day with a mostly repaired boat. Interesting video topic...thank you.
Oh this is really interesting.. do I prepare my ego to get hit with some truths? The answer is yes! Dark humour has put to boot in many of my friendships.
Do you think that this kind of dark humour should be banned? I ask because it feels like this is the kind of argument that pro censorship advocates would push in order to censor comedians.
I have a question for you which is not exactly too relevant to the video. What do you think the role of ego is in our lives? I refer to the ego as that source of "I" which all our actions arise from. I question whether ego is a healthy state for the mind to be in. It is essentially a false process is it not? It's the process of pretension - and thus, pretending. It is our identification with things which have already passed. It causes unhealthy and conflicting action in our lives. It also causes much suffering. Therefore, what is the point of "integrating" traits into the ego - like shadow traits, the anima, animus etc. I have come to accept the need for holistic integration in our lives. It is the most important thing. However, I don't see what role ego has in this. As I see it, a mind which is healthy and has a non-fragmented relationship with the body and soul cannot function out of ego.
Check out my video titled "Shadow Work: The Three Layers Of Your Unconscious Mind" from 3 months ago in the Shadow Work playlist - talks about all these issues in detail - can also look at Q&A episode 98/500 "Stop Trying to Kill Your Ego, Ego Psychology Explained" - good luck, and thanks for the question.
I liked the term "ever-snowballing-loop", and it explained everything about how our perspective on something specific becomes real or unreal. I liked the term "injection" as well👍one of my students quit because he told his mom that I didn't care enough of him, and he cried in front of his mom, but he was pretty resistant and rebellious on me in class, watching your video I learned to see the sad cry within people when them being overly resistant on me. Thank you, Jordan🙏🏻I appreciate your work and the lesson I learn each time is so precious🎉😃👏👏👏
Ooohh Lorrrrtt!! Intellectual beautiful just as much as the outside!!! 😮 .. sir u have the power to touch many different lives!! From many different places … What a beautiful “hue”man being! Thank you much!! Love to u and yours what breath of fresh air!! ❤❤❤
This is a cool and really important topic to bring up. Appreciate the idea of the difference between banter and bullying. What comes up for me is if dark humor relates to trauma dumping, especially in the context of bullying, subtle or overt. It also makes me think critically about where that blurry line exists, between playfulness and sarcasm at the expense of someone’s humanity. I can think of examples in my own life, where if I was the one putting out the playful yet kind of hurtful remark, on some level, I can imagine I was feeling sort of resentful towards that person, and it passively came out in that way. On the flip side, I feel like general playfulness and banter can come down to general morality (and at the risk of sounding too new age), to intention. Like if we really ask ourselves (assuming we’ve done any amount of trauma healing/reconciliation the past that can come out in maladaptive behaviors) we know when we’re being playful and flirty vs subtly cruel for an ego boost/moment of displaying a perceived sense of power over another. Really liked the moment to think deeply on this. Thanks for sharing.
What a great way of seeing it! I love the metaphor with the boat at the end. Listening to your words, I started to see myself in some points, even though I never saw myself as a person who uses sarcasm often. Obviously, I did in my youth to process things from childhood by trying to laugh about it or comment on it in front of others. I now see that it was not healing. It just hurt inside again and again. Only within the last couple of years, I understood how to overcome this pain. Thank you for this 🙏🏻
I'm gonna watch the video later and I may leave a comment about that, but first I have a question for you: what are your thoughts on the concept of infantilizing teenagers? For example, there's a thread of discussion in some New Age circles on social media that argues that teenagers are supposed to be pregnant at their age and that having a baby will help them grow up faster, rather than "wasting time finding themselves" because that's self-centered. Also that because our first world society is infantilizing them, their immaturity will continue until their 20s and 30s. What do you think about this?
Hmm, it’s a good question but I generally disagree that teenagers should be having children. Times are different, and there is possible benefits in delaying family (if done consciously) - but I see the point about infantilised adults. It really does depend on many factors!
@@jordanthornton I guess that makes sense. There are full grown adults who shouldn't have kids but they do, and there are teenagers who are very mature for their age. But it concerns me because young women in their teens and even early 20s are easier to push around and manipulate than women in their 30s. And it seems like a disregard for those archetypal rites of passage for womanhood (maiden, mother, matriarch/crone), because there is more to womanhood than just having as many babies as possible, as soon as possible.
There are many dark comics who do not like other dark comics because they did not deliver the joke comicly. They can both agree that what they talked about was the same dark thing yet the vein of expression and intention can clearly be seen through it as different. I believe the fart jokes are in the same primal vein as dark jokes, you see I measured this on a silly meter not long ago . I see it as both being through the eyes of the child who do not yet no what he can and cannot talk about and so can approach it all through the same playfullness. Im mostly drawn to both ends of the spectrum, childish and dark. I see them as no different. Dark jokes as projection is sensibly different and deprevating though, Both the offence and defence of dark jokes. I might be wrong or projecting but i dont want this video to underestimate the vitality that taking things unserious can bring. Serious|unserious that is.
Thank you, I think there too can be offensive and defensive structures for NOT using dark jokes which also are faulty. Lets say your certain your not projecting but do not want to be entwined with the darkness behind the joke, an inherent risk with dark jokes, and so refrain.
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*1-1 Mentorship Information: Price & Structure (Maximum Capacity = 20 Clients Per Year)*
It's an absolute pleasure to film these TH-cam videos, and I feel fortunate to receive an abundance of meaningful messages every week, but I am unfortunately faced with the disappointing reality of turning away the vast majority of people who want to work together.
I have significantly limited availability and can only support twenty people per year because I do not offer one-off calls or drop-in consulting sessions.
Twenty individuals might not sound like maximum capacity, but the last few years of teaching have taught me the importance of maintaining tight energetic boundaries if I want to keep uploading these free videos in addition to serving my current clients to the best of my ability in 2024.
To minimise confusion and enhance transparency, I've spent several hours writing this ridiculously long comment to help you decide if my Inner Work Mentorship is the right choice for your development & what you could reasonably expect from working closely together.
Please take the time to read this service description before contacting me on Instagram… or feel free to stop reading right now if you’re not interested in my fees, session structure, client expectations, etc.
...
*READ BEFORE SCROLLING FURTHER:*
I'm interested in long-term change and structural transformation, which is why I've never offered one-off sessions.
Complex issues cannot be resolved in a few hours, but we likewise need to define an upper limit for containment and collaboration.
I've learned that deep and enduring self-integration requires at least four months of immersive effort. Why four months? It's enough weekly contact for us to work through multiple complex issues and developmental possibilities, but short enough to mitigate against unconscious co-dependency and motivational stagnation.
I'm currently accepting a maximum of two new clients per month - message me after reading the following section to check my availability.
...
*HOW I WORK & WHO I WORK WITH*
Unlike other coaches and teachers who take an understandably more relaxed approach to healing and integration, my mentorships are characteristically intense.
This is a highly-demanding, high-investment process which requires our consistent combined effort over a period of four months.
If we were to start working together, I would reasonably expect you to be excited to show up for a minimum of 10+ hours of self-motivated transformative practice per week (daily reading, fitness routine, creative exercises, spiritual reflection, etc.) while also maintaining full-sobriety (no drink, no drugs, no cigarettes, no vapes).
These strict standards of discipline and sobriety are plainly unsuitable for most people in most situations - even genuinely motivated individuals who resonate with my TH-cam videos may not be the right match for four months of structured mentorship.
If you want to get deeper, I've noticed that there's a certain type of ‘temperament' & 'timing’ to get the most out of me.
I'm interested in alert, creative and purpose-driven individuals who aspire to exceptional standards of self-maturation and would enjoy the feeling of going through week-on-week of progressively stacked transformative experiences for a third of a year: my ideal client is somebody who is willing to bring forward their internal complexity with a sense of courage and transparency with the intention of nothing less than full-spectrum transformation & rapid acceleration on their personal path.
I am yet to discover another supportive figure who offers something comparable to this mentorship: a four-month, structured yet flexible 1-1 container which is simultaneously therapeutic, academic and action-oriented; with primary focus placed on tangible improvements in your felt sense of self-knowledge and self-integration; in addition to making consistent and meaningful progress towards your unique goals and mentorship aspirations.
I prioritise contact, compassion and accountability, which means that your work never really 'ends' at the end of your session. You can reasonably expect to be fed dozens of customised reading suggestions and follow-on perspectives outside of the formal sessions via friendly and informal messenger contact, where I am active and available four days per week to cultivate an intimate personal connection while likewise enhancing your positive momentum via accountability check-ins and additional support as required.
By way of conclusion for what feels like an extraordinarily long comment and service description, I feel compelled to once more emphasise that working directly with me is unrealistic for most people in most situations.
I often support people who are accustomed to wrestling with the emotional challenges associated with working through complex wounds in previous therapeutic relationships before we begin our coaching work together. Even individuals without 'hard trauma' can expect moments of pressurised darkness and heaviness during periods of shadow contact as you begin to restructure your personal unconscious. We will be exploring your psyche and soma at scale and depth, and it will be your responsibility to keep me informed about the emotional texture of your internal reality, especially if you encounter negatively charged experiences, and I will of course do everything in my power to support you through the hard times as we integrate the darkness and move forwards together.
TH-cam is a wonderful place for me to share free research resources and offer accessible inner work invitations; my private mentorships, however, are the place for collaborative partnership and emotional security as we identify, navigate and restructure oftentimes confronting and challenging conscious and unconscious physical, emotional and mental material.
Ultimately, this is a highly-demanding but highly-rewarding process which requires the best of our shared intentions.
...
*SESSION STRUCTURE & FEES:*
The total fee for an Inner Work Mentorship (including 12 x 2 hr sessions) is £7,400 GBP or approximately $9,400 USD. This is my only coaching programme, and my mentorship pricing is liable to adjustment over time.
Each private session lasts two hours, and is facilitated via Telegram video call at an ideal time for both of us. Your mentorship extends over a linear four-month period, with a total of twenty-four hours of structured session time, in addition to four days per week of unlimited messenger availability for accountability updates, voice note exchanges and informal calls upon occasion. I do not work on Mondays, Tuesdays or Wednesdays, but I am fully-available across all timezones for regular calls and messenger contact on Thursday - Sunday.
If you’ve scrolled this far, and resonate with what I’m offering, I invite you to message me on Instagram. It would be my pleasure to start exploring your goals and intentions in real-time.
IMPORTANT: I am an intentionally independent coach, and not a licensed therapist or associated with any professional bodies or coaching institutions, and therefore enjoy the freedom to collaborate with my clients across all areas of life in an intimate, direct and highly involved coaching style. I work with no more than twenty people per year, and am currently accepting a maximum of two new clients per month. I also manage my own inbox and do not use automated systems or employ people to pretend to be me on Instagram, which means that it usually takes four to six weeks for me to respond to new messages and begin the interview process. Although my approach takes time, I hope you ultimately appreciate my personal emphasis on authentic and confidential communication from the very beginning of our relationship. I once again encourage you to message me immediately if you want to start working together within the next two months - bump yourself to the top of my inbox, and I’ll send you some voice notes to get our conversation started.
According to Robert Johnson.
To create is to destroy.
And there is a fulcrum.
ahhh, wish I had this when I was a teenager. Growing up in the era of South Park, Rick & Morty, Family Guy, etc etc. There's a sweet sting with this type of humor. Something dark and cynical can be as refreshing as coffee in small doses (especially in angsty teen years). But bitterness is better as a small portion of a daily diet. "Proportionality" as you say. Occasionally a hint of darkness as the frosting but never the whole cake!
Right, I’ve never been more unhealthy than when I was consuming family guy every evening as a teenager. There’s something very stunting about that kind of humour, South Park likewise feels stagnant for me. Small doses sure, but the honest reality is that it just doesn’t feel that good compared to deep humour and lighter humour… it’s a deep chat, and good to see you here again, Amy! 🌲
I love your comparison to the cake.
@@jordanthornton which is for you a good Deep positive humor? You can mention some tv series or actor ecc?
I think it's related to the inhibition of expression-- environmentally, socially, and psychologically. Such as Chekhov started out writing career as an author for humorous journals - the humorous columns didn't satisfy him, so his sense of humor got darker and darker as the series progressed. What was not permissible for expression morphed into dark humor. Though I think being satirical is not necessarily a sign of surrender or stagnation. satire itself as a genre was often a form of resistance that eludes direct confrontation and immediate consequences, or as a art form that tries to make sense of the gap between 'portrayed/imagined image' and 'actually there'.
Your ideas reminded me of David F. Wallace's discussion on the very danger of irony - he basically said the same thing. He said being ironic underlies our acceptance of what we oppose.
This video also reminded me of Klein, who said (to put it crudely), once you get depressed, you're healed.
Though I wonder, should there be any certain rules to navigate this? I can see that being satirical (in daily scenes) is like wearing a mask, a split persona who assumes the role of both the abuser and the reenactor of the dormant victim within.
But is a cry better than a laugh? Or, maybe, a good laugh is better than a bitter laugh?
Thank you for this intriguing topic.
You have a very cultured and sophisticated response here, thanks for adding this. I enjoyed reading your words and absolutely see a place for measured darkness or sarcasm when appropriate. You’re right that the issue is frequency and things like daily sarcastic undercurrents - not healthy.
Notice all of the "comedians" mocking people for not participating in the jab agenda?
Trying to use fear of being mocked/ridiculed to gain compliance much?
I worked mental health/care and probably didn't have the best childhood.
It's always seemed to me that all humour is based in "victimhood", the butt of the joke is the victim and (I think) often, the laughter is relief that it's not you. Man slips on banana-skin and falls - it's the tension/release. I'm not refuting you, I think it's all a mix of feelings etcetera.
I've cleaned up litres of feces and genuinely done so with kindness and treating the person with dignity:
Subject into shower > clean bedroom > dude out shower, re-dressed clean and in bed > cigarette break > clean rest of the (multiple scenes) > handover to next day shift > handover/brief "poorly dude". There's no way to deal with that without gallows humour.
The problem is, the World on the Outside is screwed, Environment/ecology, war, economics - shutting that noise out is nigh on impossible.
I can't leave the house without headphones on in attempt to shut out those negative stimuli and I've made a conscious effort to listen to less angry music to more chilled, but again there's the external stimuli that are "wearing" at best - just the Newspaper rack in a shop, a homeless person, addict, chugger - all wearing/negative stimulus and that's not looking down on anyone - homelessness etc are complex issues that should be treated with empathy (and I personally try to), but that "dark cycle" is impossible to avoid.
Yet not leaving the house (tried it) is just as bad, isolation, alienation, depression, darknes all descend with hobbies an attempt to fend them off. Everything can be delivered, but let's add in some mobility-disability so active hobbies are out. No win situation.
You make great and astute points, I'm not disagreeing with the intent, just putting it into practice is...
You have very difficult and important work, and I want to thank you for sharing this here. I feel like I've gained some insights and appreciate your perspective - I know what you mean about the negative stimulus in the world especially.
I really see my younger self in this and as i read the comments it seems im not the only one. I used to call irony and sarcasm my best friends and from time to time be proud of it. I guess the first time it came to my mind this is not cool was when my mum said I was as sarcastic as my dad. I did definitely not want to be like him.
Nowadays I prefer silly jokes or just playing aroung with words for example using homonyms etc.
Horror films and gore I feel is similar to this
There is a place for it civilizations have been celebrated the dead for a long time : Halloween in the Irish ☘️ community, Day of the Dead 💀 in the Mexican community, the Chinese community has a holiday that honors the dead/ ancestors. I understand there is a place for it
I am concerned that my step daughter is obsessed with gore, Halloween, dark music with dark depressing lyrics
I prefer the light I prefer to seek higher consciousness
This is so wonderful, Jordan, and thank you for this. For a major part of my early 20's, I was made to feel like I was supposed to be okay with taking such humour on myself, and that there was either something wrong with me and that I had to "man up".
At hindsight, I'd also participated in making such dark humour only to feel accepted by these individuals and to be perceived cool.
Starting with my own journey of going within helped me to realise that I did not have to try to fit in, but just accept myself. Be an embodiment of my truth.
Thank you brother 🙏🏼❤
Liberation in choosing our own boundaries as adults!
Schadenfreude occurs in the world at large quite often. I knew I was healing when I generally stopped engaging in it and started noticing the times I still may feel it, using that as an opportunity to take a look at what I'd still like to work on. I think you're right that it kept me safe in the past, by keeping my boat afloat, but it's much more relaxing and harmonious to go through the day with a mostly repaired boat. Interesting video topic...thank you.
I can relate to your words here, thanks for this one.
Multi-millionaires in a sub-standard sub, going to visit a mass grave... Piloted by Captain Hubris with his X-Box controller.
Oh this is really interesting.. do I prepare my ego to get hit with some truths? The answer is yes! Dark humour has put to boot in many of my friendships.
Hope you enjoyed this one! 🤡
Do you think that this kind of dark humour should be banned?
I ask because it feels like this is the kind of argument that pro censorship advocates would push in order to censor comedians.
I don't think words should ever be banned. I'm a fan of freedom and generally hate language policing.
I have a question for you which is not exactly too relevant to the video. What do you think the role of ego is in our lives? I refer to the ego as that source of "I" which all our actions arise from. I question whether ego is a healthy state for the mind to be in. It is essentially a false process is it not? It's the process of pretension - and thus, pretending. It is our identification with things which have already passed. It causes unhealthy and conflicting action in our lives. It also causes much suffering. Therefore, what is the point of "integrating" traits into the ego - like shadow traits, the anima, animus etc.
I have come to accept the need for holistic integration in our lives. It is the most important thing. However, I don't see what role ego has in this. As I see it, a mind which is healthy and has a non-fragmented relationship with the body and soul cannot function out of ego.
Check out my video titled "Shadow Work: The Three Layers Of Your Unconscious Mind" from 3 months ago in the Shadow Work playlist - talks about all these issues in detail - can also look at Q&A episode 98/500 "Stop Trying to Kill Your Ego, Ego Psychology Explained" - good luck, and thanks for the question.
Hey jordan, can you suggest me book like budha's brain.
Because i want to learn more about same context.
Not the kind of books that I tend to focus on, but I hope you continue to enjoy the channel brother.
I'm writing an essay on this topic and I very much agree with your thoughts. Would you say that the use of dark humor is related to mental ilness?
That’s a very charged and general statement, I would hesitate to answer it in a simple YT comment! Good luck with your essay though.
I was just deeply pondering this this morning! Very cool synchronicity-thanks!
Happy to be here right on time - ain’t life funny 😉
My stepfather was the foreign substance in my " I " about as sarcastic and factual as I get .
I liked the term "ever-snowballing-loop", and it explained everything about how our perspective on something specific becomes real or unreal. I liked the term "injection" as well👍one of my students quit because he told his mom that I didn't care enough of him, and he cried in front of his mom, but he was pretty resistant and rebellious on me in class, watching your video I learned to see the sad cry within people when them being overly resistant on me. Thank you, Jordan🙏🏻I appreciate your work and the lesson I learn each time is so precious🎉😃👏👏👏
Thankyou
You are most welcome!
Interesting. What would you classify as healthy humour? I'm guessing you’re not a big fan of Ricky Gervais.
I think everybody has a preference, but not a fan of Gervais - no! What matters from a trauma perspective is the underlying dynamics it seems
GREAT somatic example @ 4:30! ☑️
Thank you! It’s a classic laugh/cry see saw hey?
Ooohh Lorrrrtt!! Intellectual beautiful just as much as the outside!!! 😮 .. sir u have the power to touch many different lives!! From many different places … What a beautiful “hue”man being! Thank you much!! Love to u and yours what breath of fresh air!! ❤❤❤
Appreciate you being here, and thanks for the kind words 🌲
This is a cool and really important topic to bring up. Appreciate the idea of the difference between banter and bullying. What comes up for me is if dark humor relates to trauma dumping, especially in the context of bullying, subtle or overt.
It also makes me think critically about where that blurry line exists, between playfulness and sarcasm at the expense of someone’s humanity. I can think of examples in my own life, where if I was the one putting out the playful yet kind of hurtful remark, on some level, I can imagine I was feeling sort of resentful towards that person, and it passively came out in that way. On the flip side, I feel like general playfulness and banter can come down to general morality (and at the risk of sounding too new age), to intention. Like if we really ask ourselves (assuming we’ve done any amount of trauma healing/reconciliation the past that can come out in maladaptive behaviors) we know when we’re being playful and flirty vs subtly cruel for an ego boost/moment of displaying a perceived sense of power over another.
Really liked the moment to think deeply on this. Thanks for sharing.
Particularly sophisticated comment here, thanks for sharing - was a good read!
What a great way of seeing it! I love the metaphor with the boat at the end. Listening to your words, I started to see myself in some points, even though I never saw myself as a person who uses sarcasm often. Obviously, I did in my youth to process things from childhood by trying to laugh about it or comment on it in front of others. I now see that it was not healing. It just hurt inside again and again. Only within the last couple of years, I understood how to overcome this pain. Thank you for this 🙏🏻
Some honest reflections here, and I appreciate you adding this. Enjoyed reading your words.
I'm gonna watch the video later and I may leave a comment about that, but first I have a question for you: what are your thoughts on the concept of infantilizing teenagers? For example, there's a thread of discussion in some New Age circles on social media that argues that teenagers are supposed to be pregnant at their age and that having a baby will help them grow up faster, rather than "wasting time finding themselves" because that's self-centered. Also that because our first world society is infantilizing them, their immaturity will continue until their 20s and 30s. What do you think about this?
Hmm, it’s a good question but I generally disagree that teenagers should be having children. Times are different, and there is possible benefits in delaying family (if done consciously) - but I see the point about infantilised adults. It really does depend on many factors!
@@jordanthornton I guess that makes sense. There are full grown adults who shouldn't have kids but they do, and there are teenagers who are very mature for their age. But it concerns me because young women in their teens and even early 20s are easier to push around and manipulate than women in their 30s. And it seems like a disregard for those archetypal rites of passage for womanhood (maiden, mother, matriarch/crone), because there is more to womanhood than just having as many babies as possible, as soon as possible.
There are many dark comics who do not like other dark comics because they did not deliver the joke comicly. They can both agree that what they talked about was the same dark thing yet the vein of expression and intention can clearly be seen through it as different. I believe the fart jokes are in the same primal vein as dark jokes, you see I measured this on a silly meter not long ago . I see it as both being through the eyes of the child who do not yet no what he can and cannot talk about and so can approach it all through the same playfullness. Im mostly drawn to both ends of the spectrum, childish and dark. I see them as no different. Dark jokes as projection is sensibly different and deprevating though, Both the offence and defence of dark jokes. I might be wrong or projecting but i dont want this video to underestimate the vitality that taking things unserious can bring. Serious|unserious that is.
The offence and defence aspects of dark jokes that you mention here is critical, I appreciate your deep perspective here 🌲
Thank you, I think there too can be offensive and defensive structures for NOT using dark jokes which also are faulty. Lets say your certain your not projecting but do not want to be entwined with the darkness behind the joke, an inherent risk with dark jokes, and so refrain.
Measured, sensitive, and true!
Thank you!
Thank you, Jordan!
My pleasure! 🤡
I would say that hot is faster 'cause you can catch a cold.
Appreciate you being here, but have no idea what you're referring to - care to explain?
@jordanthornton it is a dad joke. If misunderstood, it could be taken as dark/shadow projection.
@@harisdiz.5817 Got it lol