As a 13Fox I can confirm he is speaking the truth. Not about the smoking. You see, you cannot smoke a Fox, it is impossible, you can only give a Fox free PT.
Graduated from AIT as a 13F a few months ago. It’s so much different than what he explained, its rapidly changing and much more strict than how he made it seem.
I go this coming summer, any tips? Trying to get any relevant info I can. I’ve already been told just don’t end up in 2nd platoon and have heard there’s lot of rucking.
Attended basic at Fort Sill, as a 13 Fox in 1983. AIT was less physical but more mental. If you failed certain portions, you could retest but only once, after that you would be recycled into a different MOS. A good 13 Fox must be highly functional under pressure. Knowledgeable of his duties and responsibilities. Map reading and navigation skills are essential, however to advance and succeed in this profession you must learn how to call in Close Air and Naval Gun Fire missions. Being knowledgeable about ciphering and deciphering codes and the operation of various communication devices, laser equipment and other devices. Being physically fit is equally important because you will be humping up and through difficult terrain. Some units are more demanding than others and you may also be required to attend additional schools; like Airborne, Air Assault, and Ranger. Among others.
I enlisted as a 13F and I ship in two weeks, I'm certainly terrified of the whole experience of basic and AIT I feel like I'm in terrible shape and I've never left Ohio so shipping to Oklahoma is a huge deal. Not much of a comment but just wanted to share I suppose
No, thanks for the comment. Glad you could see this before you leave. I wouldn't stress about it man. Just do your best to get in shape the next 2 weeks then kill it at basic! For 13F just remember to practice Land Nav and be good at it.
I was surprised to see this in 2018 .I was an 13F in 1986 Ronald Regan was President. Good to see some young men still learning this all these years now. I was with 6/14 FA in West Germany before the wall came down.
Gonna be an 0861 which is the 13f equivalent for marines. We also train at fort sill but there is a marine detachment on the base. I'm sure it's a lot different but thanks for the video.
Good old Fort Sill. I grew up there (well, there and Germany). My dad was a Drill Sergeant at Ft. Sill in the 1970s, and then became a Pershing Missile warrant officer. I even went to Lawton High School. I've been all over that post. Great memories. :)
2 tours at Fort Sill back in the 80’s. Really enjoyed them. Lawton, on the other hand,,,, was definitely a GI town. The airport would CLOSE ( lock up and shut down the lights ), and kick people out. The mall was small. But I had a great grandmother who lived there so I could go there for the weekend. My wingman and I spent a lot of time running to Sheppard Air Force Base in Wichita Falls Texas…😉
Cool! I was a 13F, but didn't go to Sill for it. I was an E-5 11C (mortar crewman), and in 1978 they were asking for volunteers to cross over to 13F, so I did. Because of having been an infantry FO as a mortarman at Ft. Lewis, WA (9th Inf Div), I knew the basic job already. When I finally got transferred over to an artillery battalion, I was a FIST team leader (we didn't have enough lieutenants yet). One of my guys, who last name, oddly enough was Fox, had been one of the first graduates of the FIST school at Ft. Sill. He had achieved the distinction of being called a "master blaster." I have no idea what that was. Anyway, that was my favorite job in the Army.
Wow, you are allowed GPS on the test?! In 84 we had a map, compass and a pencil. If you failed that test you weren't going to be a 13F. Then years later we had GPS.
I was a 13F back in the mid-80s. I did 9 years, including a stint as an instructor at Sill. Land Nav is the focus. In my day, no Sat nav, only terrain association. Not so easy…
We were free between 1800 to 2100 to go off post and got weekend passes in 2011 until a 13r broad caused massive drama and 13b died from alcohol poisoning
Why do they give daggers out now? I heard they try to do JFO stuff in AIT now too. How can you teach new booties how to de-conflict airspace for cas or cca for a multiple mission when the new FO can hardly remember his 6 elements? LOL I feel like that SSG Old School meme. haha
michael shacklee they are working on adding the academic portion of a basic jfo class. After November it will be required to graduate. There is no jtac at ft sill to do actual qualifications.
Fort Sill B 1/31 FA for basic in 89, then carried out gear to the FIST barracks in Jan. 90. I think we were B battery again, but Drill Sargeant Stackhouse if anybody remembers him. Then went nurnberg later. 1AD, 2/1FA, C-4/70 Ar FIST. Then bounced to Rucker, then back to Germany to HHT 2/11ACR, then Ft Riley 1/5 FA. Also time in the Mi. Natl Guard.
I graduated 13 Echo in 1969 Fire Direction Control at Ft. Sill, served in Vietnam with the Guns of the DMZ for 13 months. I think I could still fire mission after all these years.
Roberto Raygoza they change the AIT pretty frequently there but they do keep the land nav and it’s just map and compass. There should also be a High physical demand testing with a lot of rucking, definitely be prepared to ruck a lot and you use the call for fire simulator a lot for training and testing. You will learn about radios in like the first week then won’t learn about them for a long time after so try not to forget all that info
Sua Sponte how do you like 19D? I'm between 13f and 19d but leaning more towards 13f just because I like the training and skill sets learned. Both sound like solid choices. What one would you say sees more action in terms of combat?
Hey bro you guys should do a video of chances of getting airborne at sill also if they have a rasp brief there got 13f August 12th but no options were available so I grabbed the job
AidsInSpace how was your AIT? Did you know anything about the prior service or MOS-T guys there? I’m prior service going next week. Just wondering what to expect if you have any info at all
Soo do alot of "rucking" or just throw on a backpack with a good amount of weight and go for a hike! Alot of our job is throwing a radio and some equipment in a bag and walking around. Just make sure you are in decent shape all arounds most fisters that I know are in good shape and we take pride in that. Enjoy Best MOS in the Army.
Yes, We get to do alot of field training, Call for fire trainers, and we do live fires once and awhile however I can only assume that deployments are the best part about being in the Army especially as a 13F.
It depends on where you are deploying to, and what the unit's mission is. If you're in the more built up areas chances are you will not be doing much beyond reporting battlefield intelligence. It's a less glamorous aspect of the MOS, but still vital as it paints a picture of what is happening. Basically though, in order for you to do your job deployed someone is having a bad day. Whether it's the grunts you support, or the people on the receiving end of the rounds you called in.
Myself... Former 13F from 1981 :-) Question if i may. Are there still recuits that come in thinking they are going to learn to put out fires? So many folks were lied to about the job. I think we had 4 guys that thought they were going to be fireman. I was one of the first ones to learn tacfire (not for sure if that is the correct term) first time they used computers in the artillery. Up until that point everything was done on the radio. Map reading is the key to this job and being about to work alone. You MUST love camping if you are going into this field. You will be gone from base a lot.... my first year in the Army i spent 245 days down range. We supported Tank, Inf and arty units... so anytime one of those units went down range we went with them.
Michael Johnson graduated AIT JAN 90 13F, I thought I was going to be putting out fires. We didnt use GPS' in nav training only map/compass. First duty station was 2/11th ACR Bad Kissingen Germany. Some of our equipment was GVLLD, PLUGGER (LATER): DMD and Fist DMD
@@TO-kk7xf is until you get to re enlist man it cant be sooner than that frame just check when your window opens up, i got kinda lucky too cause it was open for me
When I finally get in contact w/ a recruiter w/ respects to re-enlistment I'm going 13F w/ an option 40 - I have been working out in a gym every day in the mean time.
@@loliitsxyxy875 Well best advice would come from a Recruiter in my honest opinion. I have mostly been learning about other Army MOS types as well (for instance - Armored Recon Cavalry - 19Ds & Ks - engage in "Recon By Fire" (i.e. gathering info on OPFOR via deliberately engaging in contact)). Just look at your ASVAB scores and learn as much on the MOS' you qualify for (I have just considered adding 19D & 19K to my list to bring up to the recruiter).
@@loliitsxyxy875 With 13Fs - they could be part of a FST (Fire Support Team) Unit in the generally larger Stryker IBCT (Infantry Brigade Combat Team). I am sure the Rangers have IBCTs as well.
Learn NOT TO SLEEP..... You need to stay awake for 3 days.. That is the hardest part of ranger school. Learning to operate with NO sleep. Just remember it's only a short time and don't give up. The hard work will pay off quickly. I went thru ranger training in 1982
Calist your feet, make your body used to being without the right amount of food. Mainly gain some body fat. You will loose a lot of weight in ranger school.
JSuave Francois ive been told youll fail the first time at Ranger school or it happens to most candidates. My Drill Sarn’t told me it was Desert Phase or something like that, that he failed but he tried recycled and passed the second time. Goodluck, bud.
I was the same way, I hated AIT at first because of how stupid everyone was. I was like “there’s no way I’m going to be this undisciplined”.. that was total bullshit lol
Joe Kaz As a non-IET you are going to have a lot of free time. You will stay in the same barracks but be limited on where you can go inside to prevent mingling with IET students. You will show up for pt at 6, then eat and go to class. If you aren’t very good at land nav/are not acquainted with call for fire, study, study, study. I would recommend waiting to use any video gaming consoles until after your third week. You are going to have a lot more freedom than IET students, but don’t let that gimp you. It’s a hard MOS and you really need to take it serious so that you don’t kill the people around you.
@@ikarosalpha5290 bro I think we're the same class. You 13F? *** just read video title, scratch that. Did you get orders yet? Still havent got mine. Was supposed to get them emailed but here I am still waiting
Advise for any new 13 FOX. Come in shape!!! Learn to read a map!!! Always know where you are on said map, artillery will kill you too. Learn what enemy armor looks like, don't call arty on your allies. Have a basic understanding of what different types of munitions you have and when to use them, don't call for white phosphorus when the wind is blowing back in your direction. Trust me it sucks. Ft Sill sucks Good luck.
Do they still have 110 Howitser Self Propelled Mobile Track,awesome freakin Big Ass Gun 100 percent accurate great experience at Fort Sill Oklahoma, and then off to over sea Bamberg Germany 1/75 Field Artillery B Battery Hell of Experience, I would do it all over again. Fantastic Ride .
@@reece6235 dope, yeah same here :( , well lets make sure our PT scores are high and being good recruits, so when they come and ask if anyone wants airborne, it could be us haha. And yes of course IF they come and ask.
arm3_ I pray they ask apparently the regiment is hurting for fisters so amen to crushing pt my goal is to be at Ranger requirements before I even leave for basic almost there but I’ll be nagging the sgt till they shut me up with a slot lmao
Update just got a response back from their recruiting they will have a recruiter at Ft.Sill boys so crush that PT and we’ll be the new batch in for sure 💪🏾 see y’all there
I just graduated Basic for 13J. I’m a split op so I haven’t gotten a date yet but how is it for 13J? I heard they got it rough. Barely any privileges, phones only on weekends, basically just like basic. Is this true?
Going to be joining the Army soon and I'm trying to find a combat MOS that involves some level of intelligence and thinking (more like tactics and shit, I'm not so keen on math). Would you say 13F fits that, or is there another I should look into?
I'm sure there are others but most of the tactical decisions will be made by officers of Military Intelligence which is the 35 series. But for 13F as you can see takes some planning with land nav, basic math, and some level of intelligence
Everyone thinks the infantry are just stupid bullet catchers! Well let me tell you from personal experience, some of the smartest and greatest leaders and men served with me in the infantry. It takes much more that sheer brawn. It takes fearless willingness to sacrifice, intelligence and sense. That's the thing about the infantry, if your GT score is high enough and you have a high enough PT score, you can do anything from Ranger, SF, sniper all of it. Believe it or not there is a science and art to clearing a room and squad tactics. Hell even Land nav takes skill to be good at it. Go 11bravo, you won't regret it. Last thing, all those high-speed schools are going to the SF, Ranger and infantry guys before anyone else. So if you don't have it in your contract and you're not 11B, good luck doing anything fun. Good luck! Enjoy your stay, lol P.s. If you do go to Sand Hill, look under the countertops in your bay. There's motivation and wisdom there that will help you. The best part of 11b is that you get two coveted items that no one else in the military gets. The cross rifles and the Blue cord. You will remember Honor hill for the rest of your life. That Blue cord will stay with you for ever!
Yeah decided to go 13F. After looking more into it and learning more of what it entails I actually think I'll really enjoy it. Nothing against infantry, and it was actually one of the choices I gave my recruiter. I've just always loved artillery and don't wanna do brute work like crew. (Plus FOs get to go in with infantry, which is pretty cool.) I go to MEPs next week and am hoping to get Airborne school as well.
Hey Matt, I’ve got a question! I signed up for 13F with the Army Guard (I’m so excited!!). I will be at basic until early December and then AIT from December- March. Do we get to go home for Christmas? Not a problem if we don’t, but hey, it would be nice to see the fam for a minute! God bless, thanks for your service! - Stephanie
I know this is unrelated to this video but since you're a 25b I was wondering if you tell me how acquiring certs work? Can a 25b get their A+, Network+, etc. certs during or after AIT? Does the army pay for them? Should I get them before I join? How difficult are they?
I'm 25 bravo. The Army does pay for vouchers if u pass certain classes with a score of 80% or higher. All certs are easy as long as you study the material.
As a 13Fox I can confirm he is speaking the truth. Not about the smoking. You see, you cannot smoke a Fox, it is impossible, you can only give a Fox free PT.
Haha love that 👌🏻
Beach body beach body. ZERO ZERO.
So true.
Glad that hasn't changed Haha wonder if the "elbows deep" call is still around or "better watch your sister or a fister will fister" song lol
Mark Winkler wreck the body date the hottie
Graduated from AIT as a 13F a few months ago. It’s so much different than what he explained, its rapidly changing and much more strict than how he made it seem.
I go this coming summer, any tips? Trying to get any relevant info I can. I’ve already been told just don’t end up in 2nd platoon and have heard there’s lot of rucking.
Twardowski FO I’m in 2nd platoon. 2nd platoon isn’t bad necessarily. 4th is worst. 5th I think has DS Ashford and you don’t want that...
@@jacetwardowski264 I'm a prior. I'm between 13F and 11C what do you think of 13F so far?
Yes, you can blame it on the 13r those girls were nasty and always causing more problems
Just graduated basic training. Headed to fort sill in 2 hours
+Dominic Criqui Congrats on that! And from my brother experience.. good luck with that cold! 👍🏻
Tanner Dailey 13F has the hardest ait out of the 13 series
How long is 13F now? 9 or 10 weeks?
Vincent Garcia how so?
@@JohnsenChea assuming you went and did it, how long is it now?
Attended basic at Fort Sill, as a 13 Fox in 1983. AIT was less physical but more mental. If you failed certain portions, you could retest but only once, after that you would be recycled into a different MOS.
A good 13 Fox must be highly functional under pressure. Knowledgeable of his duties and responsibilities. Map reading and navigation skills are essential, however to advance and succeed in this profession you must learn how to call in Close Air and Naval Gun Fire missions.
Being knowledgeable about ciphering and deciphering codes and the operation of various communication devices, laser equipment and other devices. Being physically fit is equally important because you will be humping up and through difficult terrain. Some units are more demanding than others and you may also be required to attend additional schools; like Airborne, Air Assault, and Ranger. Among others.
Haha, that was a good video with your brother. Thanks for the info! It was pretty informative and gave me a good idea of what 13F guys do.
Thanks, it was pretty fun getting him involved. Got one more with him coming up tomorrow. Talking about Airborne School!
I enlisted as a 13F and I ship in two weeks, I'm certainly terrified of the whole experience of basic and AIT I feel like I'm in terrible shape and I've never left Ohio so shipping to Oklahoma is a huge deal. Not much of a comment but just wanted to share I suppose
No, thanks for the comment. Glad you could see this before you leave. I wouldn't stress about it man. Just do your best to get in shape the next 2 weeks then kill it at basic! For 13F just remember to practice Land Nav and be good at it.
Shawn Patterson might see you there bruh
Shawn Patterson let us know how it went bud
How did it go? I'm an E5 who is looking to reclass to 13F
I was surprised to see this in 2018 .I was an 13F in 1986 Ronald Regan was President. Good to see some young men still learning this all these years now. I was with 6/14 FA in West Germany before the wall came down.
I was ABtry, 6/14th FA. Pinder Barracks Zirndorf. 1972-74 Gun Bunny.
I was 1/22 FA in the floors just below you ‘84-‘88. Pinder. Great experience.
Gonna be an 0861 which is the 13f equivalent for marines. We also train at fort sill but there is a marine detachment on the base. I'm sure it's a lot different but thanks for the video.
Good old Fort Sill. I grew up there (well, there and Germany). My dad was a Drill Sergeant at Ft. Sill in the 1970s, and then became a Pershing Missile warrant officer. I even went to Lawton High School. I've been all over that post. Great memories. :)
my sister is at basic training right now training for 13F
Pls tell me How it was for her bc I'm shipping out soon as a 13f
@@kayleetrowbridge7574 same
2 tours at Fort Sill back in the 80’s. Really enjoyed them.
Lawton, on the other hand,,,, was definitely a GI town. The airport would CLOSE ( lock up and shut down the lights ), and kick people out. The mall was small. But I had a great grandmother who lived there so I could go there for the weekend.
My wingman and I spent a lot of time running to Sheppard Air Force Base in Wichita Falls Texas…😉
Cool! I was a 13F, but didn't go to Sill for it. I was an E-5 11C (mortar crewman), and in 1978 they were asking for volunteers to cross over to 13F, so I did. Because of having been an infantry FO as a mortarman at Ft. Lewis, WA (9th Inf Div), I knew the basic job already. When I finally got transferred over to an artillery battalion, I was a FIST team leader (we didn't have enough lieutenants yet). One of my guys, who last name, oddly enough was Fox, had been one of the first graduates of the FIST school at Ft. Sill. He had achieved the distinction of being called a "master blaster." I have no idea what that was. Anyway, that was my favorite job in the Army.
I took my AIT at Ft. Sill in 1988. I was a 13F and loved it!
RonnieL1969 were you deployed for war at all?
Leonardo No i wasnt ever deployed to war.
Wow, you are allowed GPS on the test?! In 84 we had a map, compass and a pencil. If you failed that test you weren't going to be a 13F. Then years later we had GPS.
When the 13F MOS opened up in 78, I switched over from 11C. The only gear we had was a map, M-2 compass, PRC-77 Radio and Binos.
Sill has an incredible museum and park full of artillery if you ever need to reinvigorate why the hell you’re there.
Still a really good bowler tho.
My son will be at fort sill very soon. Like 2-3 weeks. God Bless all who are there or have been thru there.
I was a fister, got out in 2012. Went to fort sill for A I T. 13 fox was like 7 weeks long when I was in.
I just got through all the training as a Fister. I'm in the first platoon to ever have JFO as a graduation requirement.
Ruew is that standard practice now?
Currently here
JFO is part of AIT but is not a grad requirement
Mark Winkler so is JFO required then? I’m planning on reclassing to Fister
As a current Future Fister of America, JFO is no longer a requirement or even taught. I am in the first class in which it is not taught.
Well now I know what my son is doing at Fort Sill. Thx
13F was a fun MOS. went through Sill in 2012 bravo battery 1-78 FA good times
Nice!
Literally in bravo 1-78 FA right now. I start AIT tomorrow.
VRSE guns n rockets best dfac
I’m right here lol
“BRAVO BATTERY!” good times 😁
awesome video guys! i was a fister in Germany with the 3rd ID and i loved it!! thanks
I was a 13F back in the mid-80s. I did 9 years, including a stint as an instructor at Sill. Land Nav is the focus. In my day, no Sat nav, only terrain association. Not so easy…
We had still seargents in AIT at Ft. Sill. When was this changed?
13F 07/93-11/99, Fort Sill and Vilseck Germany, 7 Bosnia with 1-6FA and I loved it. Blow stuff up for a living!!!
We were free between 1800 to 2100 to go off post and got weekend passes in 2011 until a 13r broad caused massive drama and 13b died from alcohol poisoning
Glad you made it now learn and win the battle! Remember this
Good ol bravo BTRY
Why do they give daggers out now? I heard they try to do JFO stuff in AIT now too. How can you teach new booties how to de-conflict airspace for cas or cca for a multiple mission when the new FO can hardly remember his 6 elements? LOL I feel like that SSG Old School meme. haha
michael shacklee they are working on adding the academic portion of a basic jfo class. After November it will be required to graduate. There is no jtac at ft sill to do actual qualifications.
michael shacklee it's just one day of CAS simulators during the second to last week of AIT
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Fort Sill B 1/31 FA for basic in 89, then carried out gear to the FIST barracks in Jan. 90. I think we were B battery again, but Drill Sargeant Stackhouse if anybody remembers him. Then went nurnberg later. 1AD, 2/1FA, C-4/70 Ar FIST. Then bounced to Rucker, then back to Germany to HHT 2/11ACR, then Ft Riley 1/5 FA. Also time in the Mi. Natl Guard.
Does anyone remember SSG Turner from fister ait?? 'Change out the mop bucket water for every 6 tiles you mop over privates" - SSG Turner.
Oh...... Thank YOU to anyone that serves this nation.
There’s a joke that is running about saying you can’t smoke a 13f
I graduated 13 Echo in 1969 Fire Direction Control at Ft. Sill, served in Vietnam with the Guns of the DMZ for 13 months. I think I could still fire mission after all these years.
Currently looking towards enlisting as a 13F, found your channel and lots of great info man, thanks a lot to you and your brother
I enlisted at a 13J and I'll be at Fort Sill for AIT. I'm nervous for it, but I'm so excited.
Yepp, that sounds about right! haha
VertexJDJ 13j is the worst mos in the army
Tango says its gonna rainnnn
ant27895 is it really? I enlisted as 13J
I ship March 16, I’m a little nervous, I just need to run more but mentally I’m ready
I’m gotta go to meps but I got offered 13f and 13b some others too but I’m planning on taking 13b with airborne school
Well explained Barney style!
Didn’t have any sats in the early 90’s. Glad to see the progression. FFE
The DAGR is taken out of the POI now
What do they use now? I’ll be going in October
Roberto Raygoza they change the AIT pretty frequently there but they do keep the land nav and it’s just map and compass. There should also be a High physical demand testing with a lot of rucking, definitely be prepared to ruck a lot and you use the call for fire simulator a lot for training and testing. You will learn about radios in like the first week then won’t learn about them for a long time after so try not to forget all that info
Any advice for reclassing? Kinda expecting it to be like my last ait? Any tips?
I was an AIRBORNE FISTER in the 509th out of Ft Rich Alaska from 2008 to 2013 What are the One Five Subs and 6 methods to CFF
Just graduated Basic and shipped over but I'm in Alpha Battery until they get enough to start a new class.
Damn bro I'm a 13B at Charlie battery I graduate in 2 weeks keep your head up man
@@WWIILivingHistory we actually kept our phones so i lucked out... I'm ready to go
Would you say that 13F physical training component at AIT is much more enduring and tougher than say a 13B?
Absolutely
I'm a 19D. I want to be a Fister next MOS. And 19D calls for fire and uses a dagger so I'm chillin.
Sua Sponte how do you like 19D? I'm between 13f and 19d but leaning more towards 13f just because I like the training and skill sets learned. Both sound like solid choices. What one would you say sees more action in terms of combat?
Hey bro you guys should do a video of chances of getting airborne at sill also if they have a rasp brief there got 13f August 12th but no options were available so I grabbed the job
I just finished MEPs enlisted as a 13F
Go RASP or airborne bro. Don’t go to conventional unit or you’ll be stuck with armor or Stryker and hate your life
@@agr9432 I’m about 2 weeks from completing AIT and I got an airborne contract
@@Spcwhiteboy302how’s it been? Should I go 13f or 11b man idk
@@GabrielArguello-e4rman I’m here for the same reason! Meps is tomorrow and I’m stuck on getting the 30k bonus for 13f or 7k for 11x
@@GabrielArguello-e4r well I’ve been in the 82nd about ah year now. Wouldn’t change ah dam thing.
2 weeks as a hole over would have been nice. I was a hole over for 5 weeks
Land navigation at ft sill was fun
Thanks for your service.
Thanks for sharing your info, my son is 13F and was ship to Ft. Leonard Wood for BT and Ft Sill for AIT
Who was it i was just there and just graduated
1990 Ft Sill B Btry 2nd/80 FA was the old Barracks for 13F AIT at Sill with steel bars on the windows. Lmao The old days.
I just enlisted as a 13J fire control specialist
I’m a 13f airborne as of rn 😂😂 exactly like your brother haha
Did you have to specify airborne in the contract?
glad i found this video. i got put in 13J that new mos thats a merger of 13D and 13P. But im looking forward to being a part of the 13 series
AidsInSpace Is 13J the same as 13F because that's what they put me into
Nopee...
AidsInSpace how was your AIT? Did you know anything about the prior service or MOS-T guys there? I’m prior service going next week. Just wondering what to expect if you have any info at all
Here’s to the fister low in the grass, one round short and it’s your ass.
If anyone has questions ive been a 13F for about 2 years so let me know!
Is your job still interesting when you aren't deployed?
Kyler Silberman for physical activity, what would you recommend for me? I'm going into 13F in about a year.
Soo do alot of "rucking" or just throw on a backpack with a good amount of weight and go for a hike! Alot of our job is throwing a radio and some equipment in a bag and walking around. Just make sure you are in decent shape all arounds most fisters that I know are in good shape and we take pride in that. Enjoy Best MOS in the Army.
Yes, We get to do alot of field training, Call for fire trainers, and we do live fires once and awhile however I can only assume that deployments are the best part about being in the Army especially as a 13F.
It depends on where you are deploying to, and what the unit's mission is. If you're in the more built up areas chances are you will not be doing much beyond reporting battlefield intelligence. It's a less glamorous aspect of the MOS, but still vital as it paints a picture of what is happening. Basically though, in order for you to do your job deployed someone is having a bad day. Whether it's the grunts you support, or the people on the receiving end of the rounds you called in.
Hey Shootemup, I'm prior service graduating bct next week. Was there any prior service guys at your 13F AIT? Was their experience any different?
Myself... Former 13F from 1981 :-) Question if i may. Are there still recuits that come in thinking they are going to learn to put out fires? So many folks were lied to about the job. I think we had 4 guys that thought they were going to be fireman. I was one of the first ones to learn tacfire (not for sure if that is the correct term) first time they used computers in the artillery. Up until that point everything was done on the radio. Map reading is the key to this job and being about to work alone. You MUST love camping if you are going into this field. You will be gone from base a lot.... my first year in the Army i spent 245 days down range. We supported Tank, Inf and arty units... so anytime one of those units went down range we went with them.
Michael Johnson graduated AIT JAN 90 13F, I thought I was going to be putting out fires. We didnt use GPS' in nav training only map/compass. First duty station was 2/11th ACR Bad Kissingen Germany. Some of our equipment was GVLLD, PLUGGER (LATER): DMD and Fist DMD
Im about to reclass as a 13F thanks for the advice.....im a 91A (wrong MOS for me)
How long did you do it before they let you reclassify?
@@TO-kk7xf is until you get to re enlist man it cant be sooner than that frame just check when your window opens up, i got kinda lucky too cause it was open for me
When I finally get in contact w/ a recruiter w/ respects to re-enlistment I'm going 13F w/ an option 40 - I have been working out in a gym every day in the mean time.
I planned on doing the same I’m going in a couple of weeks to talk to my recruiter about it can I get any advice if you have any to share?
@@loliitsxyxy875 Well best advice would come from a Recruiter in my honest opinion. I have mostly been learning about other Army MOS types as well (for instance - Armored Recon Cavalry - 19Ds & Ks - engage in "Recon By Fire" (i.e. gathering info on OPFOR via deliberately engaging in contact)). Just look at your ASVAB scores and learn as much on the MOS' you qualify for (I have just considered adding 19D & 19K to my list to bring up to the recruiter).
@@loliitsxyxy875 With 13Fs - they could be part of a FST (Fire Support Team) Unit in the generally larger Stryker IBCT (Infantry Brigade Combat Team). I am sure the Rangers have IBCTs as well.
@@rustym.shackelford5546 thanks so much I’ll keep all of that in mind I greatly appreciate it
Heading to Fort Sill for AIT! 13F!
How was basic and how is AIT I leave for basic 13F soon
How long is 13F now? 9 or 10 weeks? Do they let you use laptop and phone
@@HighFire13F How long is 13F now? 9 or 10 weeks? Do they let you use laptop and phone.
What was the living situation like at Fort Sill? Were you allowed laptops and was there wifi?
Fleshmount hahahahaha,fuck no.you get to keep your phone sometimes.hope you have a lot of cell data.
Also so glad to hear they are still trying to smoke a fox! All we did for pt was long ass runs and smoke sessions.
Always Great Videos. Enlisted 13F leave in 27 Days Fort Jackson. Gonna do Airborne/Ranger as well!!
Any good tips for ranger process?
Learn NOT TO SLEEP..... You need to stay awake for 3 days.. That is the hardest part of ranger school. Learning to operate with NO sleep. Just remember it's only a short time and don't give up. The hard work will pay off quickly. I went thru ranger training in 1982
Calist your feet, make your body used to being without the right amount of food. Mainly gain some body fat. You will loose a lot of weight in ranger school.
JSuave Francois ive been told youll fail the first time at Ranger school or it happens to most candidates. My Drill Sarn’t told me it was Desert Phase or something like that, that he failed but he tried recycled and passed the second time. Goodluck, bud.
you guys did the land nav as a group?
I was the same way, I hated AIT at first because of how stupid everyone was. I was like “there’s no way I’m going to be this undisciplined”.. that was total bullshit lol
hahahaa
Too true man
When you go to basic, do they break you up based on your mos
dc500 wrong. I had reserves and guard in my platoon during Basic. AIT was where they kind of split us up.
***** where did you go to basic
***** I'm going to Benning in just a few days
Matthew Rowley Do you know what certain MOS’s go to each bct fort?
I leave in 5 days ! I’m super nervous !
Suzy Dunckel hey how did it go. I leave soon as a 13Foxtrot
Did you have any prior service in your AIT? How was it for them? I'm an E5 who is reclassing into 13F.
Joe Kaz As a non-IET you are going to have a lot of free time. You will stay in the same barracks but be limited on where you can go inside to prevent mingling with IET students. You will show up for pt at 6, then eat and go to class. If you aren’t very good at land nav/are not acquainted with call for fire, study, study, study. I would recommend waiting to use any video gaming consoles until after your third week. You are going to have a lot more freedom than IET students, but don’t let that gimp you. It’s a hard MOS and you really need to take it serious so that you don’t kill the people around you.
@@talon00302 Thanks for the response. You've given me some valuable insight that I'll be putting to use.
How did it go bro? I report in 2 weeks to FT Sill as a PS NCO from Reserve
How was everything for you? I ship out in a week to Sill. Coming in as a Prior service Marine Sgt
@@ikarosalpha5290 bro I think we're the same class. You 13F? *** just read video title, scratch that. Did you get orders yet? Still havent got mine. Was supposed to get them emailed but here I am still waiting
Y'all got a dagger ? I feel old and only went through in 2010!good vid. Brings back memories
We did not have PLUGRS for land nav. Compass Map Protractor only.
Personally as a 13 F I’d have a lot of fun. Big bro needs fister love
Did it in 1982...been there, did it!
I enlisted as 13F, I ship off June 11 2018
The New Zyro me too! Same date!
Iblamekas is my insta hit me up
kassy_overboard I'll get that straight away
kassy_overboard nice! Fort Sill?
Same, but I ship off on the 21st
Advise for any new 13 FOX. Come in shape!!! Learn to read a map!!! Always know where you are on said map, artillery will kill you too. Learn what enemy armor looks like, don't call arty on your allies. Have a basic understanding of what different types of munitions you have and when to use them, don't call for white phosphorus when the wind is blowing back in your direction. Trust me it sucks. Ft Sill sucks Good luck.
I would add know how to resection. All polar call for fire is, is a resection
I ship to BCT at Sill January 6th and AIT in March
How long is 13F now? 9 or 10 weeks?
@@JohnsenChea 10 weeks
Great video guys, well explained. What would you say are the major differences are between the 13Fs and 13Js on the line?
nr1483
like comparing an 11b to a 42a
I’m leaving for Fort Sill for basic and AIT in a couple weeks I’ll be a 13F I’m so ready to get out of Louisiana
How was AIT?
Do they still have 110 Howitser Self Propelled Mobile Track,awesome freakin Big Ass Gun 100 percent accurate great experience at Fort Sill Oklahoma, and then off to over sea Bamberg Germany 1/75 Field Artillery B Battery Hell of Experience, I would do it all over again. Fantastic Ride .
Just finished up basic and going to 13f ait so this video was helpful
Good luck man and congrats on graduation!!!!
Can't smoke a fox!
just enlisted as a 13F, super stoked. ship out aug. 26th.
Hey me too. I'll see you there
We will all be together lol ship August 12th I’m trying to get into the regiment but of course no op4’s or 40’s
@@reece6235 dope, yeah same here :( , well lets make sure our PT scores are high and being good recruits, so when they come and ask if anyone wants airborne, it could be us haha. And yes of course IF they come and ask.
arm3_ I pray they ask apparently the regiment is hurting for fisters so amen to crushing pt my goal is to be at Ranger requirements before I even leave for basic almost there but I’ll be nagging the sgt till they shut me up with a slot lmao
Update just got a response back from their recruiting they will have a recruiter at Ft.Sill boys so crush that PT and we’ll be the new batch in for sure 💪🏾 see y’all there
Currently at Fort Sill for 13F AIT.
How long you been der?
Garcia hall is what he meant
iHate_FreshYT smh they tryna put us at Bamford 😡
Bro that's a chow hall
grab n go
Currently a 13J. Thinking about reenlisting as 13F.
You forgot to tell them how much you hate life as a fister but still love being one
is 13F a popular career for women? I am looking at different mos's and think that this is the right one for me!
Bella from my experience there aren’t very many, but there are females 13F’s. It’s definitely a great choice in my biased opinion.
I’m the first female 13f in the state of Wisconsin !
oh shit, It's Ward. Been a while.
I just graduated Basic for 13J. I’m a split op so I haven’t gotten a date yet but how is it for 13J? I heard they got it rough. Barely any privileges, phones only on weekends, basically just like basic. Is this true?
Reclassing from 14H to 13F in the summer... get them gains brother
I See O. I'm going through 13-f AIT right now. You are there for the first week only
Was airborne/rasp offered to your group?
How was AIT?
Been in 2 1/2 years and thinking about reclassing to 13F
STRIKE HOLD FIST CJTF-180...Rock Hard...
Going to be joining the Army soon and I'm trying to find a combat MOS that involves some level of intelligence and thinking (more like tactics and shit, I'm not so keen on math). Would you say 13F fits that, or is there another I should look into?
I'm sure there are others but most of the tactical decisions will be made by officers of Military Intelligence which is the 35 series. But for 13F as you can see takes some planning with land nav, basic math, and some level of intelligence
Everyone thinks the infantry are just stupid bullet catchers! Well let me tell you from personal experience, some of the smartest and greatest leaders and men served with me in the infantry. It takes much more that sheer brawn. It takes fearless willingness to sacrifice, intelligence and sense. That's the thing about the infantry, if your GT score is high enough and you have a high enough PT score, you can do anything from Ranger, SF, sniper all of it.
Believe it or not there is a science and art to clearing a room and squad tactics. Hell even Land nav takes skill to be good at it.
Go 11bravo, you won't regret it.
Last thing, all those high-speed schools are going to the SF, Ranger and infantry guys before anyone else. So if you don't have it in your contract and you're not 11B, good luck doing anything fun.
Good luck! Enjoy your stay, lol
P.s. If you do go to Sand Hill, look under the countertops in your bay. There's motivation and wisdom there that will help you. The best part of 11b is that you get two coveted items that no one else in the military gets. The cross rifles and the Blue cord. You will remember Honor hill for the rest of your life. That Blue cord will stay with you for ever!
Yeah decided to go 13F. After looking more into it and learning more of what it entails I actually think I'll really enjoy it. Nothing against infantry, and it was actually one of the choices I gave my recruiter. I've just always loved artillery and don't wanna do brute work like crew. (Plus FOs get to go in with infantry, which is pretty cool.) I go to MEPs next week and am hoping to get Airborne school as well.
Hey Matt, I’ve got a question! I signed up for 13F with the Army Guard (I’m so excited!!). I will be at basic until early December and then AIT from December- March. Do we get to go home for Christmas? Not a problem if we don’t, but hey, it would be nice to see the fam for a minute!
God bless, thanks for your service!
- Stephanie
Stephanie Chavez ill be at basic and ait the same times for 13F maybe ill see you
Triple Threatened Nice, congrats! See you there!
I I’ll be in ait in feb I think I forgot 😂
I ship out at the end of June. Super nervous
I know this is unrelated to this video but since you're a 25b I was wondering if you tell me how acquiring certs work? Can a 25b get their A+, Network+, etc. certs during or after AIT? Does the army pay for them? Should I get them before I join? How difficult are they?
Check your messages, I replied back to you.
I'm 25 bravo. The Army does pay for vouchers if u pass certain classes with a score of 80% or higher. All certs are easy as long as you study the material.
I was at fort sill for feild artillery survey
6400 mils = 360 degrees
ISO Hall (pronounced I-see-oh)
I hated iso