The reasonFlukenest is so incredibly broken on some bosses is that it's hitbox lingers which can multihit bosses that are shifting alot like Xero or Gorb but that's why the they have Shamans equipped more often because it's more consistent with bosses and overworld enemies
I think what is also interesting is Fireborn's explanation to the evolution of the speedrun of Path of pain and Explosion pogo. They are really interesting as well
If you're wondering what that menu is, it's called an inventory knockback cancel. You open your inventory on the same frame you take damage and if you do it right it cancels the knockback and you get a fancy little frame.
@@Limcube I personally haven't seen it used for the Garpede room. You tend to see inventory knockback cancels when damage tanking! For instance, the False Knight or the Vengefly king
The reason that (I believe) spells are used is because (along with already stupidly powerful damage) there are multiple bosses that scale their base HP off how many nail upgrades you have. Because of this, by waiting to get nail upgrades until after these bosses, you can absolutely mow the lawn with these guys using spells.
Oh I remember seeing you in the speedrunning discord! Hi! I'm really glad to see that you're getting into Hollow Knight. Also, you should really check out the IL combat speedruns (like the Pantheons and Colos), they're INSANE. Like, they're probably the most impressive thing I've seen people do in this game. Have fun! :3
@@Limcube You should see the most recent Pantheon 5 world record run, it utilizes flukenest insanely well. Also there is a modded boss "Any Radiance" that's supposed to be impossible to beat but some players actually have beat it. It's insane.
I have to say, I am very impressed with your ability to commentate the insanely fast run so cleanly! It reminds me of sports commentators a little. I would love to see you react to a TAS run. I can't find a 112% TAS anywhere at the moment but the any% run by Constructive Cynicism from around a year ago is... well, I hope you'll see.
Something pretty interesting is that during the absolute radiance fight, you can sometimes see Scruffy quickly turn back and forth while swinging. This is because quick slash actually reduces how fast you swing your nail so much that it’s faster than the animation for swinging. So when you turn quickly you’re able to swing again immediately instead of waiting for the animation to finish. I know there are some runs against Any Radiance (supposed to be an impossible version of Radiance) where this is fully utilized and it’s super cool to see
27:04 I think I know the purpose of going back and fourth like this. its a setup to make it easier to perfectly time going through the door. if you just stand there and time it manually, its hard to time precisely because the only reference point for timing it that you have is visuals. But by going back and fourth, you can utilize move cooldowns and muscle memory to time it more precisely.
Flukenest was fcked up by the devs and given spaghetti code, a long string of code that makes it linger (even when the model is off the screen) and a constant damage in whatever spot fluke nest was originally cast, you cast it 4 times imagine multiple shade souls hitting over and over after you already cast it
Flukenest has a bug where fluke's hitbox stays longer and therefore hits more times. And it even without bugs does a little more damage than usual shade soul. And about dream bosses: their hp kinda scales to the level of your nail so runners dont uprade it until the end.
i remember hearing and seeing here that nail upgrades only affect dream warriors, but that's not entirely true - it just affects them the most. with values pulled off of the wiki: - nail 0 is base nail - nail 1+ affects: dung defender (+50/50/50/50), and the dream warriors: no eyes/marmu/xero/gorb (+120/94/84/70), galien (+138/111/91/70), markoth (+150/120/104/81), elder hu (+170/130/50/50) - nail 2+ affects: enraged guardian (+50/50/50) - nail 3+ affects: hive knight (+50/70), collector (+50/50), watcher knights (+20/20), troupe master grimm (+130/70) - nothing is changed by just nail 4 consider: it takes ΔHP/ΔDMG nail hits before the hp change is no longer in the bosses favor. since ΔDMG is always 4, the math works out so that when doing nail only the nail upgrade will always benefit you, and can only hurt you when it comes to fights where you almost just spam spells (or pogo skips where you kill the enemy)
The inventory fall on current patch is only posible with a frame perfect click on the ledge of a platform. So no mistake, he needed just to do it until he made the frame perfect.
wow, the routing has changed significantly since the last time i watched 112%APB runs. looks like there is tons of room for optimization too. looking forward to seeing you learn the speedruns for HK, it's one of my favorite games to watch. tons of variety in the runs and a great rando community too if you're into that.
very glad you are looking into hollow knight. i looked into HK after botw as well, and it was a joy. oh yeah: did you stream your casual playthrough of HK? i'd love to see that.
@@Limcube For my first run I beat, I highly recommend using Unbreakable Strength, Shaman, Quickly Slash, Longnail and after you beat white defender, you'll get a bench. I recommend swapping long nail for nailmasters glory and grub song. If you also want to, replace quick with mark of pride. The next bench after that I recommend going with quick slash, strength, shaman, steady body and grubsong. Learn to use steadu body as it really helps with the final boss
If you were confused about what you need for 112%, you need: Bosses beaten, Dream bosses/dreamers, Mask shards, Vessel fragments, Nail arts, Spells, Equipment, Charm, Dream-nail (And seing the Seer assend), Nail upgrades, Colosseum, Finding Godhome and Beating all of Patheons (Except Pantheon of Hollownest)
for your information, the main reason they made it so you have to do apb was to make it more climactic and in 106 they fight nkg because they wanted to make it more climatic yet botw 100% doesn't end on gannon
Btw I dont know if you figured this out later, but you have a big misconception with the whole "nail damage increasing hp" thing. The only bosses with a significant effect to their hp from nail upgrades are the dream warriors around the map. Some bosses do have minor hp upgrades at the last two nail upgrades, but they don't have any hp upgrades from the first couple nail upgrades. Spells are just that good when used correctly, most of these kills have nothing to do with abusing lack of nail upgrades
you have an enjoyable channel - hope you branch out from Zelda. I'd love to see you play Celeste. Also, love to see you play Alundra - an amazing zelda style game with super challenging puzzles and incredible music
I didn't even know what to do after one of the first bosses (idk the name it was a girl with a whip or smth) let alone beat the game, even with tutorials I had no idea what to do I wandered for hours and hours aimlessly trying to find something but couldn't find a way to progress any further and eventually just quit the game
Honestly sad you skipped so much of the pantheons, especially the early bosses now that he has so much gear, or sisters of battle and winged nosk who we never got to see
I believe the reason we meet Pure Vessel only in pantheon is because godmaster brings out their full potential. Therefore we're facing off against Pure Vessel before he got corrupted by the plague that came from Radiance. I'm up to being wrong on this, but I believe this is the case.
The reasonFlukenest is so incredibly broken on some bosses is that it's hitbox lingers which can multihit bosses that are shifting alot like Xero or Gorb but that's why the they have Shamans equipped more often because it's more consistent with bosses and overworld enemies
a lot of the time it isn't used for that though, its just good
gorb for example just has 0 health
flukenest can't multihit bosses while vengeful spirit and shade soul can. I'm assuming that's what you meant.
@@ILiekFishes it can because of a bug that makes it extremely overpowered
@@ILiekFishes Nono the flukes hitboxes linger for some time so bosses that shift alot on one specific location get multihit
@@ILiekFishes I would recommend you to watch BlueSR's video about Flukenest
Yo, Limcube doing Hollow Knight content, what a crossover of the century.
Yeh
I think what is also interesting is Fireborn's explanation to the evolution of the speedrun of Path of pain and Explosion pogo. They are really interesting as well
If you're wondering what that menu is, it's called an inventory knockback cancel. You open your inventory on the same frame you take damage and if you do it right it cancels the knockback and you get a fancy little frame.
The one in deepnest for example? To traverse the Centepede Room ?
@@Limcube I personally haven't seen it used for the Garpede room. You tend to see inventory knockback cancels when damage tanking! For instance, the False Knight or the Vengefly king
The reason that (I believe) spells are used is because (along with already stupidly powerful damage) there are multiple bosses that scale their base HP off how many nail upgrades you have. Because of this, by waiting to get nail upgrades until after these bosses, you can absolutely mow the lawn with these guys using spells.
38:21
Which bosses scale with the nail?
@@BobThePenguin. all the dream WARRIORS (not the failed champion, lost kin, or soul tyrant)
@@BobThePenguin. also, the enemy's in the coliseum scales their hp with nail upgrades
Oh I remember seeing you in the speedrunning discord! Hi! I'm really glad to see that you're getting into Hollow Knight. Also, you should really check out the IL combat speedruns (like the Pantheons and Colos), they're INSANE. Like, they're probably the most impressive thing I've seen people do in this game. Have fun! :3
I’ve watched monstahs pantheon runs before. Insane stuff
@@Limcube You should see the most recent Pantheon 5 world record run, it utilizes flukenest insanely well. Also there is a modded boss "Any Radiance" that's supposed to be impossible to beat but some players actually have beat it. It's insane.
So Happy Limcube is getting into Hollow Knight!
Also yes, Scruffy really is GOATED
descending dark as a shitton of invincibility frames (frames where you can not be damaged), thats why it is op
I love your commentary on this, I feel like I am watching you broadcasting his full game play, very enjoyable :) Keep up the great work.
Thank you that means alot because i enjoy doing it!
I have to say, I am very impressed with your ability to commentate the insanely fast run so cleanly! It reminds me of sports commentators a little.
I would love to see you react to a TAS run. I can't find a 112% TAS anywhere at the moment but the any% run by Constructive Cynicism from around a year ago is... well, I hope you'll see.
Something pretty interesting is that during the absolute radiance fight, you can sometimes see Scruffy quickly turn back and forth while swinging.
This is because quick slash actually reduces how fast you swing your nail so much that it’s faster than the animation for swinging. So when you turn quickly you’re able to swing again immediately instead of waiting for the animation to finish.
I know there are some runs against Any Radiance (supposed to be an impossible version of Radiance) where this is fully utilized and it’s super cool to see
As someone who plays this game all the time it’s nice to see you doing hollow knight content
you can think or fluke charm as a shotgun. Massive damage but short range while the normal spell attacks at a range instead.
27:04 I think I know the purpose of going back and fourth like this. its a setup to make it easier to perfectly time going through the door.
if you just stand there and time it manually, its hard to time precisely because the only reference point for timing it that you have is visuals. But by going back and fourth, you can utilize move cooldowns and muscle memory to time it more precisely.
I see that makes alot of sense
And now this man is playing both the first and second of the two best games to ever exist. mad respect
Flukenest was fcked up by the devs and given spaghetti code, a long string of code that makes it linger (even when the model is off the screen) and a constant damage in whatever spot fluke nest was originally cast, you cast it 4 times imagine multiple shade souls hitting over and over after you already cast it
Spaghetti code isn't literally a long string of code lmao
34:10 dreamnailing is likely to hold uumuu in place to make it as easy as possible to land the abyss shrieks. This was a fun video to watch!
Flukenest has a bug where fluke's hitbox stays longer and therefore hits more times. And it even without bugs does a little more damage than usual shade soul. And about dream bosses: their hp kinda scales to the level of your nail so runners dont uprade it until the end.
In case you weren't told already infection trigger is broken vessel or any of the dreamers
Am I dreaming ? Hollow Knight content on youtube ? Let's go !!!
"I love longer completionist runs"
oh man you would LOVE low% then
i remember hearing and seeing here that nail upgrades only affect dream warriors, but that's not entirely true - it just affects them the most. with values pulled off of the wiki:
- nail 0 is base nail
- nail 1+ affects: dung defender (+50/50/50/50), and the dream warriors: no eyes/marmu/xero/gorb (+120/94/84/70), galien (+138/111/91/70), markoth (+150/120/104/81), elder hu (+170/130/50/50)
- nail 2+ affects: enraged guardian (+50/50/50)
- nail 3+ affects: hive knight (+50/70), collector (+50/50), watcher knights (+20/20), troupe master grimm (+130/70)
- nothing is changed by just nail 4
consider: it takes ΔHP/ΔDMG nail hits before the hp change is no longer in the bosses favor. since ΔDMG is always 4, the math works out so that when doing nail only the nail upgrade will always benefit you, and can only hurt you when it comes to fights where you almost just spam spells (or pogo skips where you kill the enemy)
This was such an awesome reaction/commentary. Can I find your HK playthrough somewhere?? I’d really love to see it
cyclone slash can hit 6 times when you press the attack button after the initial attack cyclone slash is the best soul gathering nail art in the game
Yo! I started playing hollow knight like a week ago, and I love it. This is insane btw, great video
The inventory fall on current patch is only posible with a frame perfect click on the ledge of a platform. So no mistake, he needed just to do it until he made the frame perfect.
wow, the routing has changed significantly since the last time i watched 112%APB runs. looks like there is tons of room for optimization too. looking forward to seeing you learn the speedruns for HK, it's one of my favorite games to watch. tons of variety in the runs and a great rando community too if you're into that.
very glad you are looking into hollow knight. i looked into HK after botw as well, and it was a joy.
oh yeah: did you stream your casual playthrough of HK? i'd love to see that.
Yes the VODs are still all on my Twitch Channel
@@Limcube will you upload them on yt at some point? Do you have a vod channel?
THE CROSSOVER WE NEEDED BUT DIDNT KNOW IT
cyclone slash temporarily uncaps fall speed
Watcher Knights are easily my second worst boss, right behind Soul Tyrant, so to see them get absolutely embarrassed felt pretty good.
I just got this game on sale to play while waiting for next Zelda, looking forward to seeing some SRs. GL!
Just a warning, pantheon 5 is one of the hardest things ever in gaming history.
I know but I literally have to do it if I wanna do this run lol
@@Limcube For my first run I beat, I highly recommend using Unbreakable Strength, Shaman, Quickly Slash, Longnail and after you beat white defender, you'll get a bench. I recommend swapping long nail for nailmasters glory and grub song. If you also want to, replace quick with mark of pride. The next bench after that I recommend going with quick slash, strength, shaman, steady body and grubsong. Learn to use steadu body as it really helps with the final boss
If you were confused about what you need for 112%, you need:
Bosses beaten, Dream bosses/dreamers, Mask shards, Vessel fragments, Nail arts, Spells, Equipment, Charm, Dream-nail (And seing the Seer assend), Nail upgrades, Colosseum, Finding Godhome and Beating all of Patheons (Except Pantheon of Hollownest)
There’s also a TAS for the game, and it is also insane, check it out
for your information, the main reason they made it so you have to do apb was to make it more climactic and in 106 they fight nkg because they wanted to make it more climatic yet botw 100% doesn't end on gannon
I see
@@Limcube seriously why does botw 100 not end in gannon
Hollow Knight speedrunners be like: "Welcome, Ladies and Gentlemen, today we're going to scream at a moth until it gives up on life
Just in case, the only bosses that get HP bonuses when you get nail upgrade are the dream warriors
Keep up the great stuff Lim.
Blink and you miss it: Hollow Knight edition.
also surprised you didn't post your reaction to the Nintendo direct with the release date for Tears of the Kingdom
BOTW and Hollow Knight my 2 favourite games, love this channel
Will you do a reaction to Hollow Knight Any% No Major Glitches WR? I'd love to see that
11:15, I'm now questioning my gaming skills. I have to rerty this multiple times just to beat this boss.
as a massive hollow knight fan, i love more people playing the game, i subbed
I appreciate it, im making a big Hollow Knight Video in December
I think cyclone slash is used to brake falls so you don't have the landing animation after a long drop
Keep working on the Pantheons! I just beat pantheon 5 with the health binding last night!
fun fact. zote doesnt need to be saved as vengefly king appears in the colloseum.
Its for grey prince zote
Dont you think a speedrunner knows what they are doing
It would be great if you started a vods archive channel, I would love to see your previous stream content
Have you seen the P5 hitless speedrun yet? If not I highly recommend it (spoilers obviously)
Who should I watch for it? Monstahlers run?
@@Limcube Personally I'd recommend HuntHussle's but MonStahler's is good too
52:26 dang, is that wolfy vgc in the corner there
"our boi" - everybody loves Dung Defender 😂💖💩🛡
at the soul master fight it kinda doesnt troll you because it didnt show the particles that come when you kill most enemies / bosses
Where can I watch your speedrun of the game? I am interested.
Btw I dont know if you figured this out later, but you have a big misconception with the whole "nail damage increasing hp" thing. The only bosses with a significant effect to their hp from nail upgrades are the dream warriors around the map. Some bosses do have minor hp upgrades at the last two nail upgrades, but they don't have any hp upgrades from the first couple nail upgrades. Spells are just that good when used correctly, most of these kills have nothing to do with abusing lack of nail upgrades
Yeah, i figured that out in the middle of watching the run
gl on the 4th one
im stuck on that one rn lol
53:50 he actually said "........................."
Nice a sub hour vid LETS GO
Limcube needs to watch the HK lore vid from mossbag
are you from Gremany?
20:31 where is this? I suck at hollowknight and need as many masks as I can get
bro discovered hollow knight. W
for real
German Dialekt ballert rein 😂
Trd geiles vid
"Nojos" would be a play on words in Spanish, with Ojos meaning Eyes.
so "No Eyes", but as one word
Bad news: Sub 3 happened before silksong
he had to kill false knight to get to the place with the soul boss
Have you seen Skurry’s low percent run?
Oh this development makes me very, very happy. Please dump all your speedrun learning attempts here for us youtube plebes!
Wait you’re gonna speedrun this game
Im exited to see
I started learning Any% yesterday
Extra hp only applies to the dream warriors with upgraded nail.
you should react to TAS runs for hollow knight
idk about "most insane," but defenitley one of the most impressive
most insane goes to those 20 hour troll categories lmao
Fair, fair
110% is a new player?
if thats the case 90% of the player base dont even know hollow knight
Ah yes the “new player” that has 110% game save
Bro wants me to watch a 112% run before i even played the game...
@@Limcube no I’m not saying that just it’s a little weird to call yourself new player at 110% on a game like new player is 0 to 40% in my opinion
I have over a hundred hours of hollow knight. And still is confused by, how?
22:50 Actually, it hits 6 here
dont nail upgrades only increase health for ghosts?
Yeah only for warrior dreams if I’m understanding correctly
you have an enjoyable channel - hope you branch out from Zelda. I'd love to see you play Celeste.
Also, love to see you play Alundra - an amazing zelda style game with super challenging puzzles and incredible music
WAIT SINCE WHEN DID LIMCUBE PLAY HOLLOW KNIGHT?!?!?!
also this is finally a game i probably have a comparable amount of skill to him
hornet is just shaw adido ha
Infected crossroads is trigger by 2 things, Crystal heart and Desolate Dive, I learnt this the time I try to save Myla
It is triggered by either beating broken vessel or collecting a dreamer
Wait? Scruffy react to this livestream while he react Scruffy's speedrun?
Yup
This video is great but it’s a bit short. I like watching videos that are one hour or longer
you didn't show nkg
Scruffy banished the Troupe so he wouldn’t have to fight NKG even though that makes the run technically not all pantheon bosses
@@reyna_rkmn no you still fight nkg in 5th pantheon I know this because I watch loads of hollow knight speedruns
@@a_little_flame589 ohh my mistake, sorry about that :/
I didn't even know what to do after one of the first bosses (idk the name it was a girl with a whip or smth) let alone beat the game, even with tutorials I had no idea what to do I wandered for hours and hours aimlessly trying to find something but couldn't find a way to progress any further and eventually just quit the game
Also this vid was posted the day I beat p5, a blessing
Huge GGs i have alot of respect for that. Gonna try it myself next month
team up with fireb0rn the God gamer upcoming?
👀
Later on I want you watch fireborn’s man haunt and it’s very interesting and this is just a request for content for this game
Watch firebirds speedrun
love your vids
That accent... Are you from Germany?
its the second most insane there is also all echivments
Honestly sad you skipped so much of the pantheons, especially the early bosses now that he has so much gear, or sisters of battle and winged nosk who we never got to see
Im sorry i was scared the Video would get too long, make sure to check out Scruffys full run in the Describtion tho
Calling Scruffy “he” 💀
Aw shit my bad where can I find scruffys pronouns, people in my chat were using “he” before but I guess they also just assumed
Nice video bro, i'm german too
I hope you look at like the tas
Which one? 👀
@@Limcube i mean any, but I think the any% and the pantheon 5 ones are the best
@Minh Nguyễn sure, i mean it’s your opinion
I wonder why they changed the language when there is a speed run mod that makes text instant
mods unfortunately disqualify runs
I believe the reason we meet Pure Vessel only in pantheon is because godmaster brings out their full potential. Therefore we're facing off against Pure Vessel before he got corrupted by the plague that came from Radiance. I'm up to being wrong on this, but I believe this is the case.
Pure vessel and the knight fighting to see who is the chosen vessel to protect everyone from the infecion
bro is 100% german
i rarely watch your twitch now oof