You can’t build plaster out that much , once they it’s decorated it’s going to look awful when that natural light hits it. Tight coat of bonding with dirty water would have sorted that out before skimming.
We didn’t have any and unfortunately, it was only that bit at the bottom that was that deep, the rest of the frame was fine. Again, on quick inspection prior to plastering I did not notice it, it was only when I had knocked up for the whole lot that I discovered the wall went out of shape down there. So it was too late to dub out then, I had to deal with it. Yes you are correct, with hindsight. 👍
Don’t mean to rain on you parade bud but that is rough, the last bit of the video when it’s done, you can see trowel and Judder marks in the plaster, when the light shines down that when it’s painted Jesus 😳, no painter should have to fill or prep and fresh plaster 👍🏻
There’s other videos where I’ve used this method and no mention of what you just said, I just showed you how to cut corners and still achieve a good result.
@@Mindersonagain the sponge is more likely to stick, plus I can buy those sponges from my local building center, they are quite cheap, but don’t last for long.
@@martindonaton3603 you totally can, and sometimes you really need to, depends on the situation. Don’t get me wrong, I got brought up old school, I’ve seen some terrible plastering that’s 2 coats. It’s all about the timing, understanding the material. One coat sponge gets a bad rep because you can proper mess it up and leave the worst finish. Have a look at some other videos that I’ve done about it. One in particular “to sponge or not to sponge” it’s a theory one. I’ve had a lot of stick when I actually show the sponge float in a video. I’ve done other videos since then where I have purposely shown a sponged wall but not said anything about it. No negative comments at all. One of the later videos I showed the sponge again and really scrutinised the finish with a light shon at an angle to show the quality that is achievable with this method. But I am using a very straight 20inch carbon steel trowel to apply and flatten in, switch to flexi stainless right at the end. Thanks for the comments Martin! 👍
@@martindonaton3603 sorry, just checked, the video recently added is entitled the most wonderful one coat in the world! I called it that as a joke and to entice plasterers to watch. It’s all about the views . 👍
@@michaelsmart3494 yes, but we cheated properly. Looked good, builder was happy , I guess the trick to one coat is to knock the gear much stiffer and put on thicker so it has the depth and strength to handle the sponge and still give a perfectly acceptable quality, 👍
It’s multi finish. The other trick is not to let it go too far before the sponge, 2 flattens , sponge, then flatten it in again, don’t take anything off the wall, treat that sponged surface as a second coat.
Not on my watch, 2 coats of multi finish, (flattening in the first before applying the second,) then at least 3 trowels to a flat smooth finish, that job look rough from the start to the finish.
Well , sometimes you have to do what you have to do, this particular job was on a hospital, they needed it done, they needed it quick, they were tight on budget, I met their demands and delivered what the customer paid for. Every body involved was happy and the project move on faster. I did what they wanted. I made a video of it just incase you find yourself in that situation and you need to cut corners.
You’re right, it may look and easy but you have to be good with your timing. That comes with experience. I have never had a complaint from builders or private jobs on walls that I have sponged. Quality is at a perfectly acceptable level. I’ve seen other plasterers do worse 2 coat. 👍
@@backcountrymon ha, yeah, hang a jacket, I did once see some plastering , matey made up a corner with out a bead with floating, and I shit you not, I hung my jacket on it!!!
So many things affect the plaster, the surface you are plastering, the temperature, how thick you mixed it, how clean the water is, the age of the plaster, generally a wall will take about 3 hrs to do from start to finish. You can probably do a room in 5 hrs as you willl have walls on that are separated in time by a few minutes.
That my friend is a shocking demo ov plastering. You would have been better of two coating. Everything you did was wrong and when that's painted oof my God.😂😂😂
@@alanrobinson6257 oh, ok, well when the temp outside starts to hit 24c your time to play with it is reduced significantly. If it’s around 5c then it hangs for ages, so in lower temperatures you will be able to put much bigger areas on without running into trouble. So summer time, I would say, from mixing up your bucket of multi finish, you’re going to have about 20mins to get that out of the bucket and on the wall and flattened out . If you are a less experienced plasterer, you can put on a second coat so the 20mins starts again then. But do remember, if you are going onto an dry, porous surface, you will need to give that a good couple of coats of pva, let 1st coat dry, apply another coat of pva, let that pick right up. That will seal the wall and stop that dry surface stripping all the water out of your fresh plaster that you are working with. It will ensure adhesion. If you are going on to fresh plasterboard then you will need no pva but you must tape up the plasterboard joints. If the wall is a painted surface then you will need to pva again, but the purpose would not to be to reduce suction but the actually glue the plaster to the painted surface. You can plaster over pva even when it is dry to the touch, If the surface is very porous and dusty, then allow pva to cure over night to ensure a really good stabilisation of the surface prior to applying your plaster
Just had a lad on site last week saying how good sponging is and once u try it you'll never look back. His work looked as bad as yours and was fucked off 2 days later and all his white had to be re done
The sponge float upsets a lot of people it would appear. I’ve shown walls in other videos that I have sponged but with out saying it’s sponged. Nobody’s said anything about the quality. Show the sponge, pitch forks come out it would appear . 👍
Hilarious, throw that sponge float in the bin mate!the time its taken with that sponge plus the mess!stiff first coat, can of cider then second coat in the afternoon, use the heat to your advantage perfect
Mate, I got paid. No complaints. In fact in the videos where I haven’t showed that I sponge floated, no comments at all concerning quality . Show a video of the sponge float being used. Loads of comments. It works, and it works good . Nothing wrong with that quality at all. No ripples, it’s flat . Painted with no filler . Looks perfect . ,
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Rough as a stuntmans knee, what do you and the builder feed your horses? 🤠🤠
You can’t build plaster out that much , once they it’s decorated it’s going to look awful when that natural light hits it. Tight coat of bonding with dirty water would have sorted that out before skimming.
We didn’t have any and unfortunately, it was only that bit at the bottom that was that deep, the rest of the frame was fine. Again, on quick inspection prior to plastering I did not notice it, it was only when I had knocked up for the whole lot that I discovered the wall went out of shape down there. So it was too late to dub out then, I had to deal with it.
Yes you are correct, with hindsight. 👍
Don’t mean to rain on you parade bud but that is rough, the last bit of the video when it’s done, you can see trowel and Judder marks in the plaster, when the light shines down that when it’s painted Jesus 😳, no painter should have to fill or prep and fresh plaster 👍🏻
There’s other videos where I’ve used this method and no mention of what you just said, I just showed you how to cut corners and still achieve a good result.
Why dont you get a much bigger sponge float to match your trowells?
@@Mindersonagain the sponge is more likely to stick, plus I can buy those sponges from my local building center, they are quite cheap, but don’t last for long.
Ready for dashing.
@@lmilne4859 that’s actually a good one. 👍
That’s shocking look at the state of those angles
Did you watch until the end?
I did I respect u for having ago but it’s not the best i don’t believe u can cheat when plastering either
@@martindonaton3603 you totally can, and sometimes you really need to, depends on the situation. Don’t get me wrong, I got brought up old school, I’ve seen some terrible plastering that’s 2 coats. It’s all about the timing, understanding the material. One coat sponge gets a bad rep because you can proper mess it up and leave the worst finish. Have a look at some other videos that I’ve done about it. One in particular “to sponge or not to sponge” it’s a theory one. I’ve had a lot of stick when I actually show the sponge float in a video. I’ve done other videos since then where I have purposely shown a sponged wall but not said anything about it. No negative comments at all. One of the later videos I showed the sponge again and really scrutinised the finish with a light shon at an angle to show the quality that is achievable with this method. But I am using a very straight 20inch carbon steel trowel to apply and flatten in, switch to flexi stainless right at the end.
Thanks for the comments Martin! 👍
@@martindonaton3603 sorry, just checked, the video recently added is entitled the most wonderful one coat in the world!
I called it that as a joke and to entice plasterers to watch. It’s all about the views . 👍
Not a clean tool in site either
Yep, they do need a clean
how much time did you allow between putting the plaster on and using the sponge?
@@DocumentingReality-ol9es probably 30mins or so. I tend to flatten with my trowel twice , 10-15mins apart, then sponge.
Is that one coat plastering??
@@michaelsmart3494 yes, but we cheated properly. Looked good, builder was happy , I guess the trick to one coat is to knock the gear much stiffer and put on thicker so it has the depth and strength to handle the sponge and still give a perfectly acceptable quality, 👍
It’s multi finish. The other trick is not to let it go too far before the sponge, 2 flattens , sponge, then flatten it in again, don’t take anything off the wall, treat that sponged surface as a second coat.
@@mastersmurf74 just do it properly and 2 coat it even if you use the same gear remixed with a dash of water
I wouldn't have been happy with that finish !
Everyone else was, guess it one of those where you had to be there
Not on my watch, 2 coats of multi finish, (flattening in the first before applying the second,) then at least 3 trowels to a flat smooth finish, that job look rough from the start to the finish.
Well , sometimes you have to do what you have to do, this particular job was on a hospital, they needed it done, they needed it quick, they were tight on budget, I met their demands and delivered what the customer paid for. Every body involved was happy and the project move on faster.
I did what they wanted. I made a video of it just incase you find yourself in that situation and you need to cut corners.
Rough as a robbers dog
Not heard that one before
Sum folk can do 1 coat, sum cor.....he obviously cor, ya cud hang ya jacket on it 😂 m8 u definitely need a new trowel
You’re right, it may look and easy but you have to be good with your timing.
That comes with experience. I have never had a complaint from builders or private jobs on walls that I have sponged. Quality is at a perfectly acceptable level.
I’ve seen other plasterers do worse 2 coat. 👍
@@backcountrymon ha, yeah, hang a jacket, I did once see some plastering , matey made up a corner with out a bead with floating, and I shit you not, I hung my jacket on it!!!
Sorry mate but that's dog rough. Poor plastering and a bad finish.
I got paid
@@mastersmurf74 and And some 1 got robbed
how long does plaster stay workable in summer ?
So many things affect the plaster, the surface you are plastering, the temperature, how thick you mixed it, how clean the water is, the age of the plaster, generally a wall will take about 3 hrs to do from start to finish. You can probably do a room in 5 hrs as you willl have walls on that are separated in time by a few minutes.
@@mastersmurf74 thanks, but wanted to know if you mix a bag of plaster how long that is usable for ? on average ?
@@alanrobinson6257tells you on the bag.
That my friend is a shocking demo ov plastering. You would have been better of two coating. Everything you did was wrong and when that's painted oof my God.😂😂😂
@@alanrobinson6257 oh, ok, well when the temp outside starts to hit 24c your time to play with it is reduced significantly. If it’s around 5c then it hangs for ages, so in lower temperatures you will be able to put much bigger areas on without running into trouble. So summer time, I would say, from mixing up your bucket of multi finish, you’re going to have about 20mins to get that out of the bucket and on the wall and flattened out . If you are a less experienced plasterer, you can put on a second coat so the 20mins starts again then.
But do remember, if you are going onto an dry, porous surface, you will need to give that a good couple of coats of pva, let 1st coat dry, apply another coat of pva, let that pick right up. That will seal the wall and stop that dry surface stripping all the water out of your fresh plaster that you are working with. It will ensure adhesion.
If you are going on to fresh plasterboard then you will need no pva but you must tape up the plasterboard joints.
If the wall is a painted surface then you will need to pva again, but the purpose would not to be to reduce suction but the actually glue the plaster to the painted surface. You can plaster over pva even when it is dry to the touch,
If the surface is very porous and dusty, then allow pva to cure over night to ensure a really good stabilisation of the surface prior to applying your plaster
Just had a lad on site last week saying how good sponging is and once u try it you'll never look back. His work looked as bad as yours and was fucked off 2 days later and all his white had to be re done
He obviously wasn’t cheating properly. 👍
goh, lotta haters on here...im sure itll be fine...once its been skimmed 😅
The sponge float upsets a lot of people it would appear. I’ve shown walls in other videos that I have sponged but with out saying it’s sponged. Nobody’s said anything about the quality.
Show the sponge, pitch forks come out it would appear . 👍
Where is Tonto?
He quit and is now working for the porta loo company
@@mastersmurf74 😂
Hilarious, throw that sponge float in the bin mate!the time its taken with that sponge plus the mess!stiff first coat, can of cider then second coat in the afternoon, use the heat to your advantage perfect
Sponge rocks in situations like this
Sorry but my 10 Yr old can skim 10x better than that!! Wow just wow 😱
Great input, thanks mate. 👍
Mate that’s absolutely terrible
Mate, I got paid. No complaints. In fact in the videos where I haven’t showed that I sponge floated, no comments at all concerning quality . Show a video of the sponge float being used. Loads of comments.
It works, and it works good . Nothing wrong with that quality at all. No ripples, it’s flat . Painted with no filler . Looks perfect . ,
Mate that is some awful plastering
Na, it rocks, check other videos