American vs Soviet Russian Bayonet Torture Test: which will survive?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 เม.ย. 2022
- Which country would've won the Cold War, the USSR (Soviet Russia) or the USA? In this video, we battle test bayonets from each of these nations to see if we can retroactively can answer that question, all the while hoping we never see this war happen in reality.
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Wow that closing statement hit hard, really good stuff, couldn't agree more. As another guy pointed out the other Soviet bayonets are much nicer, but the Russian ones are very expensive, I only got one because it was a bring back from Iraq.. Stamped for the Izhevsk factory, surprising because most Iraqi AK are either domestic or Yugo. In the Soviet Union each nation had specific designs they produced, AK, bayonet, etc. but it was up to them to produce them themselves without Russian control, so quality actually varied allot, some places like East Germany were known for generally making really nice kit, and some of the poorer areas like Romanian where not known for high quality production.
Even though the M9 is a bit more refined (and much newer) I have to give credit to the Soviets, it was a really clever design and the idea of having a utility knife with the wire cutters came from them first, the M9 in essence was a American copy of the Soviet idea. When the soviets first fielded these knifes (all the way back in 1960!) the US was still using the m4/m5/m7 which is just a double edged dagger essentially, good bayonet and a decent fighting knife but useless as anything else. Soviets actually innovated allot when it came military technology which I don't think is recognized often, first modern mass use of IFV (BMP series) First official paratrooper units, all the way back in 1930, first nation to use the concept of a "Designated marksman" at the squad level. etc.
Edit: Oh also something worth pointing out, lack of sharpness of the Soviet bayonets is actually really historically typical. Most nations around the world factory produced military knifes and swords completely dull, very much intentionally. Final sharpening was to be done before actual combat, by units armorers. This in Britain was always known as "service sharpening" so when you find most old swords or knifes if they are dull, they most likely served in peace time or were surplus. The reason why this was done was to decrease wear on the blades (many scabbards are metal or have metal inserts and will dull blades over time), and to discourage drunken angry soldiers from using them in anger. When you find for instance a old sword that has a original service sharpen it can be quite a bit more valuable as it means it was likely actually carried in a active war, or at least on deployment in a dangerous location such as in colonial areas, like British occupied India. The American knifes coming sharpened was a bit of a anomaly, but many American knifes do come sharp, the M7s I have handled factory new from surplus lots are very sharp. However when you go back to WW2 allot of American surplus M1 Garand bayonets are quite literally duller than a butter knife. So when you find a old bayonet like that, that is sharp and it looks to be a very old sharpening it may have a much more interesting story to tell compared to a surplus one that came out of a wooden box decades after the war.
Wow, there’s a lot of really good info there! Thanks a ton. I think you should set out to write a book 😆 I would definitely read it. Thanks again for watching and hit me up next time you’re in Lower Alabama and we will grab a beer together!
this guy deserves more views
Gee, thanks! That is very kind.
Loved it. Totally in agreeance with your thoughts at the end between the 2 countries. The bloopers..... 🤣🤣 Moss.... always getting in the way, slowin' ya down... that'd get ya in a whole lot of trouble. lol 😂 Thank you for the vid, Gabe. It was a good choice to compare those 2 knives especially. Hello to the family. Y'all take care! 😊
Thanks Sherry! I’m glad it was entertaining yet educational :) we are well here, thanks for asking! We are enjoying the last few days of nice spring before it’s back to muggy south Alabama!
Russian bayonets are not sharpened at the factory at all. They were supposed to be sharpened by the solders.
Great video as always, Gabe! Really appreciate the history of the knives, and definitely appreciate and respect the words at the end!
Thanks for watching! Hoe you and yours are well!
What a fantastic video! Thank you!
Thanks for making this video really helpful
Thanks for watching it!
@@oursimplestorychannel it's a masterpiece so the rest of your videos
Keep the great work 👍
The AK bayonet you got there was made in Romania (you can tell by the leather belt loop, bakelite marbling and markings). These Romanian bayonets are regarded as the worst quality of the AK family, the manufacturing is crude and the materials are low quality. I don’t want to imply that it would significantly change the results of your testing (the M9 was a much more refined design overall) but you would probably be happier with a Polish, East German or Soviet one (those are usually much sharper and well finished). Thank you for the video and have a great day, kind regards from Czech Republic.
Thank you for watching and offering such great information on the styles and qualities of these bayonets. That is very interesting that each nation had its own methodology and level of quality when all producing the same bayonet. I’m glad you enjoyed the test and I hope you have a wonderful day. Pray for peace.
@@oursimplestorychannel get the Yugo M70 bayonet, trust me
Yup and it might have been used and not sharp anymore.
The knife dragging was interesting a good review now subscribed
Subscribed! Cool channel
Love the knowledge dump!
I’m glad! I just did a bunch of research and learned it myself.
Romanian bayonet, the leather frog is supposed to be around the rubber insulator not under it.
In 1968-69 the leather "frog" was not on the Romanian bayonet sheath.
I cant believe that this video have only 870 views and 55likes, you deserve more.
😂 thanks! Share it with all your friends :) if the TH-cam algorithm decides it’s good enough, it’ll take off. Have a good day!!
13:28
This is officially the most based military equipment review on youtube
Road drag is how you sharpen ak bayonet.
It would have been more interesting if they were given a fresh edge before the tests. They are cutting weapons/tools with tests done on cutting ability and edge retention. This is like comparing two similar used cars, running tests on fuel mileage, and not filling up either car first. Naturally the car that happened to have the most fuel in it would have an unfair advantage.
I was in the army when the m7 was issued almost worthless as a field knife but great as a bayonet but that's about it.
Very cool!
that’s usually the case with most bayonets, designed for utility and designed as a weapon as the last resort
Great video. Though considering the difference in when they were introduced the com bloc bayo was never really going to have a chance against the newer M9
Agreed
That m9 is trash next to the okc3s the marines get. Not to sound like a dick. You are great, definitely got a like and subscribe from me.
Trash is harsh but the M9 was never meant to be a bayonet, or never should have been one. It’s design was lifted from the BuckMaster 184 Survival knife designed for the SEALs
I’m pretty sure the ak bayonet is old and the American one is brand-new
them m9 bayonet are crazy expensive.
Yup
Save your money, we broke them on a weekly basis. They were an Armorers worst nightmare. The OKC3S we got afterwards is incredible. 👍🏻
Can you Imagine a high way patrol pull them over and see what they are doing when they are dragging the knives ?
You used an old russian bayonet that was probably heavily used, and a relatively new M9. Not completely fair
Exactly what I was saying bro is comparing an antique model T to a 2025 Shelby GT500 and is wondering why ones better than the other
It was brand new.
Try M9 against the G3 Bayonet, the american one will fail instantly
6:40 What’re you gonna do today, Napoleon??
That scene was totally
My inspiration for this 😂
I strongly disagree I own both and used both in camping. The ak bayonet has a better edge and easier to maintain than the M9. The M9 just has length and weight, if you put an edge on it doesn’t last long so most of the time it struggles to cut wet toilet paper. The M9 is just an expensive, heavy, and enlarged imitation of the AK bayonet. I have the M9 and the M10 tanto Ontario made the M10 has an even worse edge and it’s partially serrated. They should’ve just made the entire cutting edge serrated. The AK bayonet that I have is similar to the one in the video.
my m9 blew at the first throw😂😂 totally broken
Would like to see the m9 vs Ak74 bayonet. Both being similar in time periods.... think the akm type1 had that metal sheath. Not the greatest in keeping a sharp edge.
Cool review dude I agree with you about war and that scripture is cool. I gotta get me a m9 now lol I always wanted one.
Thanks for your kind words and feedback! Have a blessed dayb
Mine was Stolen brought back that Soviet Made Bayonet from the Gulf War Desert Shield Desert Storm the Iraqi had those on their rifles.
The AK bayonet was heavily used while the M9 was brand new, not fair.
Wrong. Both were new.
The leather frog wraps around the insulator fyi. That's why it's way low not doing anything and flopping around lol.
Awesome
You should make an investment in purchasing a mid length gas system upper receiver for your AR because it's actually designed for the 16" barrel and fits the bayonet. Literally pointless having a carbine gas system with less hand space for a 16" barrel AR
I was borrowing this from a friend.
I ve heard that Polish AK bayonets are the best ones, I happen to have one i bought like 2 years ago, havent really used it, the Polish ones missing the saw on the upper part of the blade.
I went to a knife review and a race broke out 👍
Hello from Finland!
Hello Finland!
Better your toys than mine
Try a titanium AK bayonet the Soviet made a couple versions of them
Hallo, Ich bin mit dem AK 47 bei der NVA Grenztruppen Einzellkämpfer groß geworden und ich kenne kein Bajonett was noch besser ist. Sie müssen auch ein Orgienal haben, Sie wären überrascht. Das was Sie da haben ist ein AK47 aus Rumänien.Die Orgienal Ak 47 sind viel besser verarbeitet. Gleich zustellen mit dem KA -Bar ,tolles Kampfmesser. Ich war bei der Armee 1974 / 1975 . Ost -Deutschland. LG AUS DEUTSCHLAND
You need to compare the Soviet production until 1988. and then the collapse of the empire and a parody of Kalashnikov assault rifles _AK _, different stores, different details.
Thanks for the titanic work
Current issue American - Past issue AK bayonet. The current issue AK (6X5) is much more like the current issue American.
In Soviet Russia, knives are duller than a hammer!
@9:01 WOLVERINES!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
We weren't allowed to have a sharp edge on our bayonets, it was a violation of the Geneva Convention. They switched us to the OKC3S, because the M9 broke so often.
Interesting, I didn’t know that!
myth
The USMC OKC3S was made as both a fighting/utility knife and bayonet. That's why it had to be made more robust.
@@poolee77 There's no myth to it. We were not permitted to have a cutting edge on our M9's. The OKC3S was fielded as a combat knife foremost, and as a bayonet second. Armorers would perform edge checks on the M9's and dull them. If they could cut paper, they were considered too sharp.
@@beltfed4624 but it is a myth. There are no laws against sharpening your bayonet. The M9 was issued with a sharping stone on the back of the sheath the same as the OK3CS.
I tried keeping my bayonet sharp but the steel is crap and won’t hold an edge for long. Your armorers likely wanted to prevent wear and replacement by just not having you use them.
many soldiers
ac sharp their bayonets self bc they are not sharp enough when we get them i had to do that with mine 😒 but those their is lucky get a used one ther is sharp
I wish the "great nations" phrase would not be used to describe anything Russian. My two cents, after that speech at the end. BUY AMERICAN!
They are a great (large, significant, powerful) nation.
even while being ukrainian and feeling kinda bad for the ak bayonet but its just way worse than the m9
How the hell is this guy not famous yet?
😂 I don’t know if I want famous but thanks.
La prueba del supuesto tanque no es válida por qué la cinta es de caucho de goma,otro detalle la bayoneta rusa tiene muchos años y si le daban una afilada por alguien que sabe la diferencia es otra otro detalle el m9 es un cuchillo que me gusta mucho lo tendría si pudiera pero la espiga es débil,y la bayoneta rusa es full tang soy artesano también tengo un canal es mi punto de vista como artesano,buen video amigos🤝🤠
Sorry, but that’s a Romanian bayonet, not USSR made. And your belt hanger is attached wrong. It’s supposed to attach around the rubber insulator.
M9
Testing it's o.k.
Missing Testing the Saw ????
Ontario is horrible Saw🙈
Bayonet from ak 74 known crap.
Have you really talked about sovjet occupation of eastern block nations? You know they were in one millitary alliance and the troops were "stationed" in East Germany, CSSR, Hungary... and Russia was protecting them, exactly like US troops nowadays are just "stationed" in Germany, Italy and other places, because we are allies, they are there to keep NATO going, not?. Same shit in essence. You were right, an occupation should be called an occupation.
Let’s all just get along.
You have to watch some others Videos about ak 47 bajonett cutting wire, sorry but your Video is irelevant
I watched all kinds of AK47 wire cutting etc videos In preparation for making this video. I’m not sure your point. The bayonet I was sent was unable to cut well. How does that make my video irrelevant?
I brought home an AK bayonet from Iraq back in 2004. It is a total PIECE OF SHIT compared to my M9, both the bayonet and scabbard. And to be honest I am at a loss with the thinking of putting the edge on the top rather than bottom of the blade.
Interesting. Thanks for watching!
The cutting edge on top of the AK bayonet is what you mean im assuming. Its there because a soldier would mount it onto their rifle to cut things much like a saw. Its why their bayonets are upside down on the rifle too.
Bayonets are used for stabbing in Russian therory .us. figured knife bayonet like ww1 would fit the bill but 86 I just got out I don't remember this ? Maybe just unit testing then but thanks that was fun