This is why Data was always my favorite character in TNG. In fact, I think it was this episode that pretty much solidified that. Emotions or not, the boy likes to roleplay.
Always loved the premise of this episode. I got gifted a huge book of classic ghost and horror stories at Christmas time, imagine if that was the book the astronaut had been reading when he crash landed. Spooky
Jill Jacobsen who played the young woman who was desperate, Vanessa, was also in 'Deep Space Nine' as Chalan Aroya who came to visit Garak's shop and had a crush on Constable Odo.
In which Riker shows that he probably did not ace the statistics and probability course at the Academy - "the probability of making a 6 is no greater than that of making a 7." I suppose this is technically true, but it is not how one would usually say it. The probability of making a 6 is definitely LESS than that of making a 7 - 5 in 36 and 6 in 36, respectively.
@Charles Ransom Well, that is part of the aptitude of a poker-player. And while on the subject of poker, I have noticed that Data's poker-playing abilities seem to vary according to the needs of the script. And one has to wonder what the Homeworld would think about Worf's poker-playing. A true Klingon never folds!
And Data, interestingly, forgoes correcting him publicly. Perhaps he has learned by now that people don’t always appreciate being corrected over unimportant matters.
I know it's just a tv show, but ... 1) The dice should not have passed to Data as the woman never "sevened-out". 2) Even if she did, since Data didn't have a bet in that previous round, he shouldn't have been offered the dice. 3) The dice need to be visible at all times. So as soon as Data closed his fist, the boxperson would've stopped the game to inspect the dice or switch them out.
Just adding on to what Arthur said: 4) Data was offered the dice BEFORE he even placed his Pass Line bet. A player has to have a bet on the Pass Line first in order to be offered the dice. 5) Data also went hand-to-hand with the dice. The boxperson will also stop the game to inspect the dice when that happens. It’s a common mistake new Craps players make. 6) Gotta love Riker’s incompetence. The man really set what looks like a $10,000 wad of cash on the shelf under the Craps table where anybody could snatch it.
... he's also an artificial life form with a positronic brain. I'm willing to suspend belief on failing to follow the proper procedure of a craps table. While Data would've needed to place a bet to roll, a player can pass their turn to roll. That pass was implied by gambler guy. Maybe woman wasn't betting, so the only inconsistency from the order of play would be Data not placing a Pass line bet before rolling.
Whereas Data's scenes with the old gambler and the blonde were fun, the episode was kind of a disaster. Whereas season two is a marked improvement over the boneheaded episodes of season one, this feels more like a season one episode. Which is to say a very feeble narrative which has a pretty anti-climactic conclusion. If you look it up on Wikipedia you will read that the guy who wrote the episode was unhappy with how it turned out. Apparently a huge chunk of the story ended up being jettisoned (and it shows).
Imagine if Riker and Data walk into Quarks on DS9 and ran the dabou (pardon the spelling) table the same way! LOL!!!! x) ) They'd own him in a heart beat and Kirea would be a Happy Camper!! LOL!!!!!
He kinda did, in the TNG episode “First Born” Riker calls up Quark looking for information, and Quark remembers him as “the only man ever to win triple down Dabo at one of my tables”, and he didn’t have enough latinum to cover the winnings, and so gave Riker gift vouchers worth 12 bars of latinum.
Always irritated me that they were constantly obsessed with 20th century stuff. It was 400 years in the future it would be like us obsessing over things from the 1600s. at my work not one conversation about 17th century culture. Why would a robot man care so much about sherlock holmes etc?
@@justincrowley8787 thats one thing but how many people do you know who act like the 16-17th century was the height of culture? i mean deep space nine had vulcans playing baseball. Its a device the show heavily relied on and it was weird. I know some people still listen to mozart etc but mozart was late 18th century not 400 yrs ago. how many people do you know that are obsessed with baroque music?
@@rayrayschnapps8217 Well, when you're culture has began to be melded not only with others from your world, but MANY from others and you are no longer tons of different places, it seems people had more reason to attach themselves to the past. And Data liked sherlok holmes due to sherlock using a very robotic method of analysis, as well as, he enjoyed cosplay of it.
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I love that Data's senses are so refined that he can tell the dice are loaded.
You can't tell me that Spiner wasn't having a fun old time in this scene!
This is why Data was always my favorite character in TNG. In fact, I think it was this episode that pretty much solidified that. Emotions or not, the boy likes to roleplay.
Even though data can’t express emotion, he’s good at pretending.
Lol the end there with the arm pump and grin is one of my favorite Data moments 😏
Data’s look…priceless.
'Baby needs a new pair of shoes 👟'
Data explains. *uses strength to shave dice *
Data---"I believe that's why they call it gambling"; and "Baby needs a new pair of shoes". ---Great lines😄😄😄
Always loved the premise of this episode. I got gifted a huge book of classic ghost and horror stories at Christmas time, imagine if that was the book the astronaut had been reading when he crash landed. Spooky
Yeah I too pooped on the floor and rolled around in it. That was a good decemberween.
@@adamb89hell yeah I thought I was the only one who did that during decemberween
Always laugh at Data's reaction to hus thurd pass.
Man Data is Having Fun.
Jill Jacobsen who played the young woman who was desperate, Vanessa, was also in 'Deep Space Nine' as Chalan Aroya who came to visit Garak's shop and had a crush on Constable Odo.
RIP Jill, she died Dec 8, 2024
@@raterus She did.
"Smug self-satisfaction"... not an emotion, apparently
In which Riker shows that he probably did not ace the statistics and probability course at the Academy - "the probability of making a 6 is no greater than that of making a 7." I suppose this is technically true, but it is not how one would usually say it. The probability of making a 6 is definitely LESS than that of making a 7 - 5 in 36 and 6 in 36, respectively.
And yet he’s supposed to be the best poker player on enterprise although it is shown that it is usually do to him reading his opponents
@Charles Ransom Well, that is part of the aptitude of a poker-player. And while on the subject of poker, I have noticed that Data's poker-playing abilities seem to vary according to the needs of the script. And one has to wonder what the Homeworld would think about Worf's poker-playing. A true Klingon never folds!
@@howardteichman1517 lol pretty sure it would bruise his ego more than what kronos would think of him
And Data, interestingly, forgoes correcting him publicly. Perhaps he has learned by now that people don’t always appreciate being corrected over unimportant matters.
I love how you can see the camera man in the mirror around 0:20
And the Camera Dolley
Yea people r deff. Watching for that.
I know it's just a tv show, but ...
1) The dice should not have passed to Data as the woman never "sevened-out".
2) Even if she did, since Data didn't have a bet in that previous round, he shouldn't have been offered the dice.
3) The dice need to be visible at all times. So as soon as Data closed his fist, the boxperson would've stopped the game to inspect the dice or switch them out.
That's interesting. I've been to casinos, but never knew the table rules of craps. Obviously because I never played it.
Data had to display his knack for cheating.
Just adding on to what Arthur said:
4) Data was offered the dice BEFORE he even placed his Pass Line bet. A player has to have a bet on the Pass Line first in order to be offered the dice.
5) Data also went hand-to-hand with the dice. The boxperson will also stop the game to inspect the dice when that happens. It’s a common mistake new Craps players make.
6) Gotta love Riker’s incompetence. The man really set what looks like a $10,000 wad of cash on the shelf under the Craps table where anybody could snatch it.
... he's also an artificial life form with a positronic brain. I'm willing to suspend belief on failing to follow the proper procedure of a craps table.
While Data would've needed to place a bet to roll, a player can pass their turn to roll. That pass was implied by gambler guy. Maybe woman wasn't betting, so the only inconsistency from the order of play would be Data not placing a Pass line bet before rolling.
its a pretend craps table based on what an alien could learn about the game from a cheap novel. There is no way all the rules would ever be included.
They just broke the house. Oh my God, they are both foreign investors
Whereas Data's scenes with the old gambler and the blonde were fun, the episode was kind of a disaster. Whereas season two is a marked improvement over the boneheaded episodes of season one, this feels more like a season one episode. Which is to say a very feeble narrative which has a pretty anti-climactic conclusion. If you look it up on Wikipedia you will read that the guy who wrote the episode was unhappy with how it turned out. Apparently a huge chunk of the story ended up being jettisoned (and it shows).
I would like to have Data with for only one night at any casino to play craps
Imagine if Riker and Data walk into Quarks on DS9 and ran the dabou (pardon the spelling) table the same way! LOL!!!! x) ) They'd own him in a heart beat and Kirea would be a Happy Camper!! LOL!!!!!
He kinda did, in the TNG episode “First Born” Riker calls up Quark looking for information, and Quark remembers him as “the only man ever to win triple down Dabo at one of my tables”, and he didn’t have enough latinum to cover the winnings, and so gave Riker gift vouchers worth 12 bars of latinum.
I love the snap
...."yeah!" Lol
Baby needs a new pair of shoes
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Doesn't even look to see what he rolled. It will be a 7!
Always irritated me that they were constantly obsessed with 20th century stuff. It was 400 years in the future it would be like us obsessing over things from the 1600s. at my work not one conversation about 17th century culture. Why would a robot man care so much about sherlock holmes etc?
In this episode they're in an illusion that mimics life based on a book written in the 20th century so...
@@tyjutsu96 obviously not the only instance. I mean that whole Riker playing 20th century jazz thing.
@@rayrayschnapps8217 but we do romanticize certain time periods. The Wild West, Meji Era Japan, the 90's, Medieval Europe, just to name a few.
@@justincrowley8787 thats one thing but how many people do you know who act like the 16-17th century was the height of culture? i mean deep space nine had vulcans playing baseball. Its a device the show heavily relied on and it was weird. I know some people still listen to mozart etc but mozart was late 18th century not 400 yrs ago. how many people do you know that are obsessed with baroque music?
@@rayrayschnapps8217 Well, when you're culture has began to be melded not only with others from your world, but MANY from others and you are no longer tons of different places, it seems people had more reason to attach themselves to the past. And Data liked sherlok holmes due to sherlock using a very robotic method of analysis, as well as, he enjoyed cosplay of it.
Sheldon coopers granddad
Ew