Yes, very true. Both of these characters are practically dead on the inside and yet both attempt to act like big shots in the casino, though in very different ways. really interesting scene in this film.
Is it weird that I think this is one of the greatest acting performances of all time? The mix of emotion he goes through over the course of about 2 minutes is incredible. Phillip Seymour Hoffman was a beast. RIP.
for some reason i only found out he passed away today. im absolutly heartbroken. philip meant so so much to me as a kid and hes inspired me so much, ill always love and respect him for that. rest in paradise philip.
All the goddamn time. I'd watch the entire film again just to watch this scene. Lead or cameo he was an absolutely screen grabbing monster of a performer. Mesmerising
Just the transition this crazy eccentric character makes from a fun-loving goofball to a man who is realizing what his addiction to gambling has got him (including a man he doesn't know) is done flawlessly. One of the many great factors to Hoffman's acting.
nah Mississippi Grind was a true show of gambling addiction. This was bs in comparison n for the record both those movies sucked. He won half a million in 1 run at the ending starting with $100. Nobody in history has done that..... they woulda kicked them out
Great scene in a movie filled with great acting. You don't see him after this, but you don't forget him. If you love movies in general, you knew it was going to be special when Seymour showed up, whether star or bit part. I will miss you.
So sad.Great Actor.A friend of mine met him one night in Manhattan at an Elvis Costello show in a small venue.Without getting into it my friend couldn't get in and Philip talked to someone and my friend was let into the show.Just for being in line next to him.Sounds like he was a pretty nice man.R.I.P.
It's easy to watch Phillip Seymour Hoffman kill it in this scene, but don't let it distract you from Phillip Baker Halls effortlessness. It's great to watch a scene with two tremendous actors doing such approaches and both serving the scene so effectively. Go watch Phillip Baker Hall in "Secret Honor" to see a totally different side of him. He doesn't get near the amount of attention as he deserves.
he doesnt seem that special to be fair. I'm not seeing it in this scene. Its a gambling movie without showing much gambling. he probably lost alllll that money too by the end of the night
@@DarkTempler1 , sorry but your assessment seems to originate from not seeing the whole film. I think it's not fair to analyze anyone's character work without the context of the whole story they're in. Philip Baker Hall is astounding in Hard Eight. This scene is Philip Seymour Hoffman's show, but to understand and appreciate what the older Philip does here, you really need to see the whole film.
I love how he goes from being a jerk to him to TOTAL respect and actually feels like shit even though he hit his point (which wins money for him). Pretty cool scene.
John Spence the character plays a sort of guardian angel or guider throughout the movie .. it’s definitely a theme that guides the character arc. so i think there’s a deeper lesson than hard eight being a sucker’s bet lol
Today's money it would be the table max at most casinos of $5,000 on the hard eight. Had a guy bet 2,000 on the hard eight at the Bellagio in honor of that movie. He hit the easy eight of of 2 and 6, but won a million dollars on the ATS bet placed 5,000 each on the tall, small and all , another guy won a half a million dollars.
@@pbabuik There's one way to win a hard 8 bet and 10 ways to lose, and it pays 9:1. That's a little worse than a 9% edge for the house. For comparison, on single zero roulette, there are 36 ways to lose straight up and one way to win, and it pays 35:1, which is way closer to the true odds, and roulette is one of the worst games to play edgewise at 2.7% edge for the house.
After rewatching this movie again last night I realized the symbolism of the hard eight bet in light of Jimmy (Samuel L Jackson’s character) referencing an old bet he had seen Sydney play in Vegas and losing. Despite Syd calling it a stupid bet, he doubled down on that same bet later that night essentially doubling down on who he was as a person and gambler
Really memorable scene by PSH, he steals it big time, to a point where you just can't stop watching the trainwreck. He could be a bully and a show off, next second, he'd be friendly, lovable, amiable. I truly believe he was one of the greats, a gem seldom ever found in this farcical world of "artistes". So sad, he's so poignantly missed...
With any other actor this could have been too over the top and considered bad acting. With Hoffman it is intentionally over the top because that’s what the character is projecting and is done absolutely masterfully
This was PTA's first film and nobody knew who Phillip Seymour Hoffman was at the time. Yet he completely owned this scene and was the best part of the entire film. Unbelievable talent right out the gate
I keep coming back to this scene, I think it's one of the best things ever filmed the more I think about it. Maybe I'm exaggerating, who cares it's great.
PSH is unforgettable and only in one scene. It’s crazy how, No one even talks about this movie. I actually had a hard time finding it. Loved it though.
So a easy 8 came out and there’s four ways to make an easy 8 and one way to make a hard 8 which is 4+4 on the dice which the old man bets on ,easy 8 comes out which the old man loses on (needed hit 4+4 on the dice to pay 18k)but the point is made so everyone that bet with Philip on the pass line won
From an ordinary dice gambler's perspective, this scene is kind of stupid. In this situation, most craps players will have way more money on the pass line trying to hit any eight (2-6, 6-2, 5-3, 3-5, 4-4) rather than money speculating on a long shot hard eight (4-4) to hit. In all my years, I've never heard a shooter hit their pass line point, get all pissed off and yell "Fuck". LOL. (Unless they were betting the don't pass)
I know this might sound selfish but when I read that Hoffman had died I just sat there in my chair looking out over my backyard for a good hour imagining what movies i'd we'd never get to see, a true great actor and a true artist. God Bless the Man.
The short answer is that the 'old man' bet big money on one of the most difficult rolls on the board -- the 'hard eight'. Hoffman's character would have needed to roll a four and a four exactly (remember him showing that combination?) in order for the other man to win $18,000. He rolled a 'natural' eight (five and three) and won the roll but the old man lost his money. I don't actually know if the old man would have been allowed to make that bet -- not without having every camera in the place turned in his direction!
The house has a 9% edge on hardway 8 bet. They would LOVE to take it though stated table max would probably rule since they dont want to get burned if some kinda one off cheat.
I can't get through a film, even with a passing couple minute role, with Phillip Seymour Hoffman and not end up profoundly missing the man. The charisma he could bring or not bring was enthralling. *RIP*
Great, great movie! Love this entire film! Great actors throughout and loved the movie's score. The music was so perfect in every scene. RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman.
Love this movie. Caught it live on Sundance back in the early 00s right around Christmas time. I’ll rewatch it around the holidays every once in awhile never gets old
RIP Philip Baker Hall. PSH gets all the fireworks but PBH is just as great, if not better. It takes years of work achieve such stillness. I'm sure PSH understood that. It's like a dance but who's actually leading?
Nothing has captured the mystique of Las Vegas like this scene and sadly had to come see this again after hearing the passing Phillip Baker Hall. And RIP to Phillip Seymour Hoffman
To me it felt sort of smaller. Although Las Vegas was not what it later became, I get more of a Tahoe feel here. I cant speak for other gaming cities as those are the only two I know, Vegas and Tahoe.
I adored Philip Seymour Hoffman's work before his death and even more now, and while I think everything he did was magnificent in its explosiveness or its subtleties, you gotta admit, he had a corner market on the "comic douchebag" character. :)
I am clueless at this as well as my buddy. We're blackjack players. While waiting for spots to open one night I eventually got to roll and my buddy asked what was the longest odds on the next roll. Hard 8. He bet $50, boom! I hit it. I literally couldn't even see it but people went nuts. It was awesome.
In my opinion Philip Seymour Hoffman was maybe one of the greatest actors of all time . He proved that by playing so many different characters with perfection . I missed the dude so much .
Peter Wieser it’s worse than that. The point is 8 meaning he has to roll another 8 before a 7. He rolled the 8 so it’s a win. It’s just it wasn’t the hard way. Only a craps player would be pissed about winning. Also, that old man would never bet a hard eight with that asshole cursing him. It’s an unrealistic scene
@@mrjuse5470 ... I would toss a nickel on the hard eight. When it hits I tell stick to parlay 💥💥 Now it's a sweat and I buy a ten dollar 2 & 12. Never say a word to the other side of table
This was such an interesting film for me because I love PTA, but I didn’t enjoy this film; HOWEVER the scenes I did enjoy I absolutely loved. This scene, the ending sequence, every scene with Samuel L. Whenever a good scene happened it made up for the last 30 minutes. Definitely a rough film, but it lays the seeds for PTA’s distinct style.
I think it shows the difference between old Vegas and the new pseudo Disneyland. Back in the old Vegas the PSH character wouldn't be allowed in the casino
I can't believe I never watched Hard Eight until today. Great film, and immediately after finishing it I wanted to rewatch this scene. In the space of about 3 minutes, PSH speaks volume with just his facial expressions and body language. The man was an absolute genius.
I first saw this as part of the Independent Feature Project, where you could see an unlimited number of films in the theater that were nominated for the Independent Spirit Awards for a flat fee, back in early '97, I guess this was... I saw 4 or 5 films a day, including Bound, Big Night, Breaking the Waves, Fargo, Welcome to the Dollhouse, Caught, Lone Star, Trees Lounge, The Whole Wide World, Trainspotting, Chungking Express, I Shot Andy Warhol, Set It Off, Walking and Talking, Flirting With Disaster, Basquiat, Bastard Out of Carolina, Secrets and Lies, Sling Blade, Paradise Lost, Looking for Richard, this film, others... good times.
For those who aren't craps players, the Hard 8 (double 4's 4+4) pays 9 to 1. You have to hit the hard 8 before an easy 8 (5-3, 3-5, 2-6 or 6-2) OR... a 7 of any kind. He didn't hit it, but if he had, his $2,000 bet would have won him $18,000.
I always wondered what this movie could have been if PTA was not fired half way through from studio meddling. And then he made Boogie Nights. a masterpiece of filmmaking.
You make a good point. The films first half as the nostalgia I recall when visiting casinos from afar and dining in lounges/casino cafes and learning the ropes of grinding before then moving up to the bigger stage, better comps and surroundings. It was this essence early on in the film that I admired, so im glad you brought up how different the movie became thereafter. I dont know if the storyline was basically intact as written, but at a certain point, the film broke from character and wandered off in a direction that felt more like Tarantino plots. It left reality to become something more fantastical and outlandish. The film did achieve a lot of greatness from its actors, but the feeling in the second half feels completely ditched thereafter and thus does not feel cohesive.
This production (not so much the actors) did nothing for me. I knew that would be the case after the first 4-5 minutes-- however, once I start a movie I will finish watching it ..even if it takes me a week to do so. That said, this scene with Hoffman simply demonstrates that incredible range he possessed. I didn't realize he was even part of the cast until about 30 seconds in this scene, which had even more an affect on me. I remember cracking up once I realized it was him-- more so because I couldn't possibly imagine him stomaching the repulsive character he' was portraying. What a genius. R.I.P.
Love how you can see so much sadness and loneliness underneath all the loud swagger and bravado. Hoffman was a treasure. RIP
Tuan Jim agreed
Wonderful actor terrible waste
Yes, very true. Both of these characters are practically dead on the inside and yet both attempt to act like big shots in the casino, though in very different ways. really interesting scene in this film.
haha
@Vitaly Greddy You've got a sick ass name, there butterfly
Is it weird that I think this is one of the greatest acting performances of all time? The mix of emotion he goes through over the course of about 2 minutes is incredible. Phillip Seymour Hoffman was a beast. RIP.
He snatched my soul away. Haunting
Santi M fav actor ever
Makes you want to know more about that character for sure. Guy was an absolute genius when it was go time for sure.
for some reason i only found out he passed away today. im absolutly heartbroken. philip meant so so much to me as a kid and hes inspired me so much, ill always love and respect him for that. rest in paradise philip.
@@elliot_sdmn3976 Sad day. He was incredible. You have good taste.
anyone else keep coming back to this scene?
It’s legendary
Dude yes
Feels relatable as a gambler
All the goddamn time. I'd watch the entire film again just to watch this scene. Lead or cameo he was an absolutely screen grabbing monster of a performer. Mesmerising
@@leonardarcher9809 goddamn, you described PSH so perfectly. “Alright!”
R.I.P. Phillip Baker Hall
So grateful that we got both him and Hoffman in this incredible scene together.
Such an underrated flick.
Its a great flick
I LOVE this scene, from a GREAT movie. There is so much in this scene. Unbelievable.
This guy's talent was (and still is) indescribable. Missing him terribly.
I have dealt dice to this Phillip Seymour Hoffman character numerious times.
Lol, me too. I love the vocal one liner hard core dice players.
Your job sounds crappy
I get that@@Coryalan2
Just the transition this crazy eccentric character makes from a fun-loving goofball to a man who is realizing what his addiction to gambling has got him (including a man he doesn't know) is done flawlessly. One of the many great factors to Hoffman's acting.
nah Mississippi Grind was a true show of gambling addiction. This was bs in comparison n for the record both those movies sucked. He won half a million in 1 run at the ending starting with $100. Nobody in history has done that..... they woulda kicked them out
I love your analysis! I think it’s spot on.
this is the best. one scene and it lives in your memory forever. that is the definition of a genius performer.
Genius? really? ...I think the old man is more "genius" than he is.
Of course that's what you think, Jan, you're tasteless
@@jannorris4140 They mean Hoffman not the character
Great scene in a movie filled with great acting. You don't see him after this, but
you don't forget him. If you love movies in general, you knew it was going to be
special when Seymour showed up, whether star or bit part. I will miss you.
That's like Dusty in Twister. Peripheral character but memorable AF. "Loooozerz!!!"
So sad.Great Actor.A friend of mine met him one night in Manhattan at an Elvis Costello show in a small venue.Without getting into it my friend couldn't get in and Philip talked to someone and my friend was let into the show.Just for being in line next to him.Sounds like he was a pretty nice man.R.I.P.
jam1ga
Which tour/year
Beacon theatre
It's easy to watch Phillip Seymour Hoffman kill it in this scene, but don't let it distract you from Phillip Baker Halls effortlessness. It's great to watch a scene with two tremendous actors doing such approaches and both serving the scene so effectively.
Go watch Phillip Baker Hall in "Secret Honor" to see a totally different side of him. He doesn't get near the amount of attention as he deserves.
Indeed. Thank you.
he doesnt seem that special to be fair. I'm not seeing it in this scene. Its a gambling movie without showing much gambling. he probably lost alllll that money too by the end of the night
Phillip Baker Hall is such an underrated actor. His performance in Magnolia is incredible.
@@DarkTempler1 , sorry but your assessment seems to originate from not seeing the whole film. I think it's not fair to analyze anyone's character work without the context of the whole story they're in. Philip Baker Hall is astounding in Hard Eight. This scene is Philip Seymour Hoffman's show, but to understand and appreciate what the older Philip does here, you really need to see the whole film.
One of my favorite movies and Philip Baker Hall is one of my favorite actors. Sad to see him go last week. RIP Philip Baker Hall! : (
I love how he goes from being a jerk to him to TOTAL respect and actually feels like shit even though he hit his point (which wins money for him). Pretty cool scene.
it was a lesson . he taught him a lesson. it took me a while to understand this myself
@@ello_ello_ what lesson is that? What is he teaching him? That hard eight is a suckers bet?
John Spence the character plays a sort of guardian angel or guider throughout the movie .. it’s definitely a theme that guides the character arc. so i think there’s a deeper lesson than hard eight being a sucker’s bet lol
@@johnspence8141 every bet is a suckers bet.
@@moneyindabank yep
3:28 to 3:55 you can tell everything from facial movements alone, relief, respect, sorrow, and clouded bravado. Just simply amazing talent.
You nailed it, hombre.
The Old man is just as good.
It's 2023 and even today a $2000 Hard Eight is insane. Can't imagine it back when this was made.
That hard eight bet pays $18,000 if it hits. Ka ching!!!! But it's nowhere close to the craziest betting I've seen at a craps table.
Today's money it would be the table max at most casinos of $5,000 on the hard eight. Had a guy bet 2,000 on the hard eight at the Bellagio in honor of that movie. He hit the easy eight of of 2 and 6, but won a million dollars on the ATS bet placed 5,000 each on the tall, small and all , another guy won a half a million dollars.
Any hard way bet isn't a bad bet at all cause it's a contract bet
There are you tube channels where people bet $2000 on a slot pull
@@pbabuik There's one way to win a hard 8 bet and 10 ways to lose, and it pays 9:1. That's a little worse than a 9% edge for the house. For comparison, on single zero roulette, there are 36 ways to lose straight up and one way to win, and it pays 35:1, which is way closer to the true odds, and roulette is one of the worst games to play edgewise at 2.7% edge for the house.
Phillip Baker Hall's passing brought me here. Two legends sharing the screen; hopefully reunited in the great beyond.
"Why don´t you have some fun...FUN, FUN!"
Sure thing, that sounds like a good idea! 🙂
After rewatching this movie again last night I realized the symbolism of the hard eight bet in light of Jimmy (Samuel L Jackson’s character) referencing an old bet he had seen Sydney play in Vegas and losing. Despite Syd calling it a stupid bet, he doubled down on that same bet later that night essentially doubling down on who he was as a person and gambler
Shaka laka doobie doobie doo
LMFAO
I imagine how incredible a sequel surrounding Phillip’s character could and most certainly would have been.
RIP Phillip Baker Hall & Philip Seymour Hoffman two of some of the most talented actors I have ever seen.
I swear this guy is in every casino in America
Australia too
Most characters are played on stereotypes it's the actor's job to make them connect with the audience
@@ehLeanne311 yeah but he's still in every casino lol
One of my all time favorite movie scenes. I can watch this over and over... Philip Seymour is absolutely brilliant! RIP!
Really memorable scene by PSH, he steals it big time, to a point where you just can't stop watching the trainwreck. He could be a bully and a show off, next second, he'd be friendly, lovable, amiable. I truly believe he was one of the greats, a gem seldom ever found in this farcical world of "artistes". So sad, he's so poignantly missed...
He steals it Big Time!
You sound like a pretentious douche
@@charismapher And Big Time are the key words in this scene! 🙂
Now I know why Joe Bookman was so hard on Jerry for those overdue library fees...
now heres the comment i was waiting for
Joy boy.
Him and his good time buddies
me too
owning mahowny with librarians
With any other actor this could have been too over the top and considered bad acting. With Hoffman it is intentionally over the top because that’s what the character is projecting and is done absolutely masterfully
Some of the beats Phillip hits here, its just like crazy how perfectly he plays this. I think he really might of been the best of all time.
Such great actors. Hall and Hoffman were gifts to generations.
This was PTA's first film and nobody knew who Phillip Seymour Hoffman was at the time. Yet he completely owned this scene and was the best part of the entire film. Unbelievable talent right out the gate
This is an amazing performance, but then again, everything Mr Hoffman did was amazing.
The energy of his acting !
The Old man has more "energy". Less is more.
I think they both infused energy into their respective characters. Love both Phillip's in this scene.
@@jannorris4140 no
Overacting
@@jannorris4140 As they say! 👍😏
I keep coming back to this scene, I think it's one of the best things ever filmed the more I think about it. Maybe I'm exaggerating, who cares it's great.
No, it's absolutely genius - it's a perfect piece of art captured on film, 100%.
PSH is unforgettable and only in one scene. It’s crazy how, No one even talks about this movie. I actually had a hard time finding it. Loved it though.
I don’t understand anything about the game but amazing acting from both Philip’s
Well I understand even less because I dont get it who won and lost
So a easy 8 came out and there’s four ways to make an easy 8 and one way to make a hard 8 which is 4+4 on the dice which the old man bets on ,easy 8 comes out which the old man loses on (needed hit 4+4 on the dice to pay 18k)but the point is made so everyone that bet with Philip on the pass line won
@@juannegrete2983 I came here for this explanation. Thank you good sir. Next time we’re at the tables I’ll buy you a drink.
@@juannegrete2983 Philip lost, that's why he says fuck. His $100 was on the hard-eight as well.
From an ordinary dice gambler's perspective, this scene is kind of stupid. In this situation, most craps players will have way more money on the pass line trying to hit any eight (2-6, 6-2, 5-3, 3-5, 4-4) rather than money speculating on a long shot hard eight (4-4) to hit. In all my years, I've never heard a shooter hit their pass line point, get all pissed off and yell "Fuck". LOL. (Unless they were betting the don't pass)
love how the music crescendos at 2:05. the whole scene crescendos. and i love how the other older roller looks up like DAAMN OKAY
very special actor, he could play so many different roles brilliantly, for me one of the best actors in movie history.
totally agree! My favorite actor. Without a doubt the best actor of his generation
xXRoNaLD0xX amen i feel the same
And he did it without physically transforming himself. That's the most impressive part.
And I get a little sad when I think all of the other interesting roles he would have played over 2 or 3 more decades...
R.I.P. Phil Hoffman
I know this might sound selfish but when I read that Hoffman had died I just sat there in my chair looking out over my backyard for a good hour imagining what movies i'd we'd never get to see, a true great actor and a true artist. God Bless the Man.
JOHN C REILEY. PHILLIP SEYMORE HOFFMAN, PHILLLIP BAKER HALL.
He was actually my favorite actor.
1:51 The shoulder-shimmying alone is worth an Oscar
Yes Hoffman was a genius.
I hear you Sister Sledge!
The short answer is that the 'old man' bet big money on one of the most difficult rolls on the board -- the 'hard eight'. Hoffman's character would have needed to roll a four and a four exactly (remember him showing that combination?) in order for the other man to win $18,000. He rolled a 'natural' eight (five and three) and won the roll but the old man lost his money. I don't actually know if the old man would have been allowed to make that bet -- not without having every camera in the place turned in his direction!
The house has a 9% edge on hardway 8 bet. They would LOVE to take it though stated table max would probably rule since they dont want to get burned if some kinda one off cheat.
I’ve literally seen this bet for 1-5k every other day in Vegas lol people live the hard ways..
I can't get through a film, even with a passing couple minute role, with Phillip Seymour Hoffman and not end up profoundly missing the man. The charisma he could bring or not bring was enthralling.
*RIP*
Incredible nuance to this tiny role. The way he tucks his head down repeatedly after the easy 8 is really great body language acting.
Great, great movie! Love this entire film! Great actors throughout and loved the movie's score. The music was so perfect in every scene. RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman.
Both of the rolling the dice in heaven right now!! What a scene..
Love this movie. Caught it live on Sundance back in the early 00s right around Christmas time. I’ll rewatch it around the holidays every once in awhile never gets old
RIP Philip Baker Hall. PSH gets all the fireworks but PBH is just as great, if not better. It takes years of work achieve such stillness. I'm sure PSH understood that. It's like a dance but who's actually leading?
Nothing has captured the mystique of Las Vegas like this scene and sadly had to come see this again after hearing the passing Phillip Baker Hall. And RIP to Phillip Seymour Hoffman
To me it felt sort of smaller. Although Las Vegas was not what it later became, I get more of a Tahoe feel here. I cant speak for other gaming cities as those are the only two I know, Vegas and Tahoe.
One of my favorites scenes in cinema. RIP.
@Andy D., I agree with you there. Great scene!! :)
I adored Philip Seymour Hoffman's work before his death and even more now, and while I think everything he did was magnificent in its explosiveness or its subtleties, you gotta admit, he had a corner market on the "comic douchebag" character. :)
He provided great entertainment for those of us without the necessary means for a necessary means for a higher entertainment.
Hopefully you've seen Owning Mahowny
@@jeffk1722 LOL big Lebowski reference
ggaccentc what’s thst
@@beenjamminbuttons7771 It's a great movie starring Phil Hoffman. The full movie is available on TH-cam.
The look of embarrassment on Hoffman at the end is great, RIP to a master of his craft
PTA...simply amazing!
philip seymour hoffman had one of the best screen presence......he just pulls you towards him
1:40 The contrast between the way PSH taunts Sydney about his sex life and the mindless happy casino music is just amazing
R.i.p to both Phillip Seymour and Phillip Baker
Amen
I am clueless at this as well as my buddy. We're blackjack players. While waiting for spots to open one night I eventually got to roll and my buddy asked what was the longest odds on the next roll. Hard 8. He bet $50, boom! I hit it. I literally couldn't even see it but people went nuts. It was awesome.
This is one of those movies thats just easy to watch. Idk they just caught a vibe or atmosphere in this one.
RIP Philip Baker Hall (1931-2022).
OMG ,so sad to hear this wunderfull actor has gone to the stars....:-( fucking Heroine!
Loved when he said “ F U “ to the old timer, he said: I’m just gonna roll and F U. Lol we need more people talking like that at the casino
I watch this every day
In my opinion Philip Seymour Hoffman was maybe one of the greatest actors of all time . He proved that by playing so many different characters with perfection . I missed the dude so much .
Hard 8 is 4 and 4. All other 8's are easy.
Old man wins if a 4 and 4 comes out before a 7 or easy 8.
When the 5 3 came out the old man lost.
Thx. I was fascinated on aesthetics and vibe, but flummoxed in terms of what was going in on gaming level.
Peter Wieser it’s worse than that. The point is 8 meaning he has to roll another 8 before a 7. He rolled the 8 so it’s a win. It’s just it wasn’t the hard way. Only a craps player would be pissed about winning.
Also, that old man would never bet a hard eight with that asshole cursing him. It’s an unrealistic scene
@@bcm3938 So true. At least not for 3K... I might do it with a $25 chip though!
@@mrjuse5470 ... I would toss a nickel on the hard eight. When it hits I tell stick to parlay 💥💥
Now it's a sweat and I buy a ten dollar 2 & 12. Never say a word to the other side of table
@@89tin I agree. Except in encouragement when the other end of the tub is hitting #s!
Great actor. RIP Mr. Hoffman. You were too young. Loved your style. You cracked me up in "Hard 8".
1:37 I know there's a character who actually did laugh but I always felt like he was saying that to the audience directly.
Phillip Baker Hall just passed away last month, June 2022
He will be missed.
What an incredible scene
IF anyone has seen 'The Cooler' with William H Macy they do a homage to this scene. It isn't on youtube, though.
Wow - just no words for how incredible his acting is - miss him so much.
When he says Sister Sledge it kills me every time.
This was such an interesting film for me because I love PTA, but I didn’t enjoy this film; HOWEVER the scenes I did enjoy I absolutely loved. This scene, the ending sequence, every scene with Samuel L. Whenever a good scene happened it made up for the last 30 minutes. Definitely a rough film, but it lays the seeds for PTA’s distinct style.
The Legend, Philip Seymour Hoffman may his movies be known as the greatest.
I think it shows the difference between old Vegas and the new pseudo Disneyland. Back in the old Vegas the PSH character wouldn't be allowed in the casino
I like how this is the exact opposite of his role in Owning Mahowny
Reminds me of the casino scene in a grounded for life episode. Him and Donal Logue sound the same.
I can't believe I never watched Hard Eight until today. Great film, and immediately after finishing it I wanted to rewatch this scene. In the space of about 3 minutes, PSH speaks volume with just his facial expressions and body language. The man was an absolute genius.
The guy in the hoodie and the backwards hat playing poker was way ahead of his time seeing as this movie was made in 1996.
I see what you mean, but it may be that look had origins in the 90's.
I first saw this as part of the Independent Feature Project, where you could see an unlimited number of films in the theater that were nominated for the Independent Spirit Awards for a flat fee, back in early '97, I guess this was... I saw 4 or 5 films a day, including Bound, Big Night, Breaking the Waves, Fargo, Welcome to the Dollhouse, Caught, Lone Star, Trees Lounge, The Whole Wide World, Trainspotting, Chungking Express, I Shot Andy Warhol, Set It Off, Walking and Talking, Flirting With Disaster, Basquiat, Bastard Out of Carolina, Secrets and Lies, Sling Blade, Paradise Lost, Looking for Richard, this film, others... good times.
Damn! So many good movies in one paragraph!
Thanks for list of films. I will find something good from that.
This is for you, Big Time!
For those of you who dig the music in this, watch the opening of John Torturro's Fading Gigolo. The absolute best. And a very fine film.
Two great actors, now gone. Thank you PSH and PBH!,
Well worth the watch really enjoyed this film about a year ago seen it on my timeline
I love all these old school gambling movies from the 90s... this one.. casino..
The Cooler might be up your alley.
One of the greatest to ever step in front of a camera.
That is the f-cking dopest sh-t ever. PSH is the man! And Hard Eight is 100% dope AF.
RIP to both these actors
"i dont wait fo old people, i dont wait fo old people.." lol
Dan mahowny's younger years
Hahaha such an awesome movie
Lol nicely done
Every gambler can hold some respect for the man who puts the money on the line.
For those who aren't craps players, the Hard 8 (double 4's 4+4) pays 9 to 1. You have to hit the hard 8 before an easy 8 (5-3, 3-5, 2-6 or 6-2) OR... a 7 of any kind.
He didn't hit it, but if he had, his $2,000 bet would have won him $18,000.
This is the scene that put Hoffman on my radar, he was about his craft that's for sure.
The Big Picture brought me here. Thanks Fennessey.
Beastmode acting by both of em
Now THAT'S great acting!
Hey Big Time, I buy you a drink!
I always wondered what this movie could have been if PTA was not fired half way through from studio meddling. And then he made Boogie Nights. a masterpiece of filmmaking.
You make a good point. The films first half as the nostalgia I recall when visiting casinos from afar and dining in lounges/casino cafes and learning the ropes of grinding before then moving up to the bigger stage, better comps and surroundings.
It was this essence early on in the film that I admired, so im glad you brought up how different the movie became thereafter. I dont know if the storyline was basically intact as written, but at a certain point, the film broke from character and wandered off in a direction that felt more like Tarantino plots. It left reality to become something more fantastical and outlandish. The film did achieve a lot of greatness from its actors, but the feeling in the second half feels completely ditched thereafter and thus does not feel cohesive.
Is it sister sledge.... ahhh
100% dope AF and contender for strongest Hard Eight performance/scene.
Great scene and anothet very good Paul Thomas Anderson flick.
This production (not so much the actors) did nothing for me. I knew that would be the case after the first 4-5 minutes-- however, once I start a movie I will finish watching it ..even if it takes me a week to do so. That said, this scene with Hoffman simply demonstrates that incredible range he possessed. I didn't realize he was even part of the cast until about 30 seconds in this scene, which had even more an affect on me. I remember cracking up once I realized it was him-- more so because I couldn't possibly imagine him stomaching the repulsive character he' was portraying. What a genius. R.I.P.
You can see why Paul Thomas Anderson kept using Hoffman.
RIP, two of the great modern American actors both gone now. Live life, live every second. Enjoy the ride!