Have you tried changing the slider from best performance to balanced and tested? Best Performance keeps the power at the CPU where as Balanced will allow the GPU to use more if required. This tip was on Level 1 techs. Only applies to APUs.
cant seem to find them bro ! seems like amd deleted what's called amd chispet driver now it comes only with windows i can only find adrenalin driver on their website (5000 series)@@MAG-Crew
@@MAG-Crew I noticed the same on my brother's HP Pavillion Gaming 15 (Intel Version). The balanced power plan gives more performance and consumes more power compared to the Ultimate Performance plan
I'd say upping it to 20-25W is safer for daily use. This video shows that you can theoritically give 30W to those APU but you need a lot of cooling and also it can kill the VRM faster. Maybe if the app has an undervolt settings it will make it a lot more safer to push the CPU.
@@racing_duck Sort of, all I know is that VRAM is connected to graphic dedicated ram, and to have only 500 megabytes (as I have) is a joke. I also know that the computer can use normal ram as graphics card ram if it gets filled up.
@@sanctusstreams101 VRM is not VRAM, VRM are actually part of the mobo and usually are cooled with some sort of heatsink and he refers to "killing the vrm faster" with getting that part of the mobo hot, which can be deadly for the whole system
For best result: 1.Ram must be in dual channel. Also use fastest supported ram. Ryzen CPU and GPU are heavily dependen on ram speed than Intel. 2.reduce CPU usage to 95% from 100. There by reduce CPU temperature and will help iGPU to boost longer. 3.increase GPU wattage between 25-30. Use 30W if you have a cooler. Or at least lifet laptops back side by 1inch from table for a 10°C reduction. 4.Under volt CPU so,that you don't need cooler any more. 5.change CPU thermal paste. 6.Try to get debloated windows 10 or 11 light For better 1% low in games.Since most games run around 30fps.
On some laptops will have soldered RAM which makes it even more limited for what RAM you can use. Even if you have RAM with same size but with much faster speed, the system won't utilise the extra speed because dual-channel RAM requires the RAM to run at about the same speed as the internal RAM. Even worse, you can't use RAM with different size because the system won't run dual-channel on it.
Great video for anyone who wants to gain quick 30% fps increase. Two things I want to mention: 1) If you have single channel memory; don't even bother. It won't affect it on GPU performance. luckily i have 8x2 2) when i do anything above 20W with ryzenadj(the command line front-end used by AATU and alike), laptop jumps to 90C and throttles down to 400mhz. great job HP. (3500U, hp 15 db-1068nt, if anyone cares about this cheap ryzen laptop)
@@tokarikure253 not after some point. watch your cpu frequency as you step it up. going too far might hurt your gpu performance even if you have a dedicated one, since they share a limited power budget on a laptop
I think it will be doable, but don't expect Valve to do it: One of the news items about the steam deck is that Valve has gone on record saying they won't offer any performance uplift at all from "docking" the steam deck. This can only be attributed at the cooling solution constrains since we know power constrains wouldn't be an issue plugged in but heat would if the headsink can't handle it, and everything seems to point to that. I even expect Valve to not even enable the option on the bios by default so it will b e a fairly complicated process involving flashing the bios more likely, probably not worth it. Since those APUs on the steam deck will be on DDR5 and using RDNA 2 (vs DDR4 and Vega cores here) I would expect the performance to be similar to this laptop chips at 30 watts with the steam deck at just 15 watts: the gains on performance will make up for the reduced power limit so until it's actually out for testing I wouldn't worry too much.
I was planning to do this on the steamdeck when I got it but apparently Valve has confirmed it will have it's own onboard CPU tuning including TDP control (unclear whether it's gonna be a custom driver feature or a bios utility but it will be natively possible)
I tested the APU Tuning Utility on my new ryzen laptop but it turns out my laptop has this feature built in. The Asus software my Vivobook came with does almost exactly what this utility does. 7-10 watts on Whisper mode, 15-18 watts on balanced and 30 watt burst / 25 watts sustained on performance mode when plugged into the charger. CPU got up to 90 C while stress testing it. This is great tech for lightweight gaming.
Is look into the latest program UXTU and see if you can undervolt; that way you get the stock power plans from Lenovo but leaving some headroom with the voltage from the curve optimizer if available for your setup.
After watching your videos I did this bios change to my Lenovo Flex 5 with Ryzen 4700U and it did speed it up quite a bit, I did not need to use the AATU app since the bios change alone works for my needs . Oh I also did change to thermal paste to the Kingpin thermal paste just to be on the safe side as well. Thanks
AATU tutorial starts at 5:45 As of this writing, AATU has been superseded by Universal Tuning Utility. UTU overheated my Beelink SER5 Pro (R7 5800H) mini pc and I just set it to Balanced preset. I set it to start at system boot now it abruptly shuts down soonest the preset is auto applied. Update 1: I managed to close the app from the system tray before it applied the preset. I uninstalled it. Update 2: It disabled my network adapter. It fails with a Code 10 - This device cannot start. Update 3: I power cycled the mini pc by, shutting it down, disconnecting the power cable, holding the power button for 30s, and waiting for 10mins before reconnecting the cable then turning it back on. THAT WORKED. Proceed at your own risk. I would suggest to stay away from the new app and stick with Ryzen Controller 2.6.0 Stable.
Heres lil tip for heating issues go into bios by turning on pc and pressing f10 when there its gonna be option for configuration and there by deafult is disabeled "fan alyways active" enable it to fix heating issues
@ETA Prime Thanks for the video! I'm gonna test it on my R5 3500U HP Pavilion 15 once I get a cooling pad. Max advertised TDP should be 35W but I'll go with 28W first and if I feel comfortable enough, I'll up it to 30W. I want to be cautious since my laptop is the only PC I currently have and I can't afford anything else at this moment. I can run it off the wall all the time without caring about killing the battery since it's pretty much dead and at this point I'm no longer interested in getting a replacement but rather a new laptop/desktop PC.
@@Slurpee99 My laptop is doing fine, thanks. Sadly, I can't get neither the tuning utility nor MSI Afterburner to work properly. I mean, they open and I can set some options but that's it. The tuning utility doesn't do anything to improve the performance and MSI Afterburner overlay doesn't appear anywhere when I run any game. I really don't know what to do so as to get them to work as intended.
@@krazycharlie i see. I was asking because we have the same spec. I would to try but if it doesn’t show any difference then I won’t do it. Thank you for your feedback.
I really wouldn't recommend 30W on Acer/HP laptops with 45w PSU especially the cheaper ones. Just use the default premade settings. With a laptop cooler, it might be okay but from testing an Acer, the PSU was running at a very uncomfortable temperature.
i think its recommended to purchase another psu with more TDP resistance, and of course some air cooling personalized cooling pad made with noctua cooling fan with 12v so the air cooling in the laptop can be awesome without overheating the CPU and Igpu
@@andresMadrid7651 so is there any danger in overheating (I use my laptop sometimes in rooms above 80 fereignhet) or does will the laptop be able to throttle down the apu safely despite the higher tdp?
I had a 4500u with 32gb but a low tdp. It was a pavilion laptop. It was impressive. Then I finally found a pc in stock and that was the end of the 4500u, I soon realized that laptops are for work.
Bro, my laptop caught on fire and almost burned my house down... Great tutorial though! I was getting 20 more fps for a good 15-20 mins! THANKS! Now i'm going to take my charred $500 laptop out to the trash once it cools off.
I bought a ryzen 5 5500u kaptop a week ago this helps! Update : I don't think this is necessary for a r5 5500u processor i mean its fast enough already
Just be careful -- not all VRMs will support and survive this. Also, not all laptop cooling systems will be able to fight extra 7C-25C of the heat. IMHO, Lenovo and other cut TDP in order to use cheaper components for VRM and cooling. With low-end TDP these cheap components are just fine, but there is not guarantee they will last with 50% boost.
@@Enter-the-Meta Yup, I have my gpu undervolted, especially when I play games. I found a really knowledgeable and helpful reddit post. But I was unable to find it for you, but I am sure there are other helpful posts out there. Need help with anything?
@@siddhantyadav450 You can squeeze in a bit more performance with AATU. I use an Omen 15 with 4600H+1660Ti and Apex Legends ran at a higher FPS with the template given in the app. Though my laptop runs a lot hotter too
@@begula6763 yes obv it'll run a bit better but as u said about the temps. I don't think the performance gain is worth having when comparing with the temps. It just decreases the life of the laptop for gains that are not really needed. Overclocking imo is useful mostly for ultrabooks having APUs coz they do really need the power.
@@siddhantyadav450 Do you actually have proof about decreasing the life of the laptop? I've heavily OCd every laptop I've ever had and still have them go like a champ after 5 years! All I do is make sure to have premium cooling solution such as liquid metal and you are good to go! Yes the fans max out and you bake an egg on the damn things but if that vs some few frames of extra fps are not your cup of tea, you should stay the hell away from OC in general!
@@jeffreyokun2355 yeah you work on the cooling right, as long as temps are fine then its all good but normally ppl just overclock the laptop without doing anything for the temps. If u run your machiene at 90C for multiple hours everyday. believe me youre going wrong places with your laptop. and for gaming, I'd much rather go for UV than OC honestly especially on a laptop
Just got a 4500u laptop to upgrade from my 1035g1 gateway, yet performance was worse which depressed me. Then after buying dual channel ram, still nothing. Then I come across this blessed video and now have literally 85% higher Geekbench scores. Damn, thanks for this!
My HP Probook 445 G7 has 4500u with single 16gb channel 25w. Thinking of buying x2 8gb to make it dual. atm I am getting around 10 FPS on Mafia - Definitve Edition. No overheating issues, CPU/GPU goes up to 95c.
@@nathanlamaire It is frustrating. I also sometimes have to have the charger plugged in to see the gains. It's stupid that the auto tdp is bare minimum. It will go to 12.5w when it reaches 50% battery, which is dumb.
Nice help for some notebook, my own nasus notebook does actually handle 30W TDP on 5500U on Standard, going down to 15W only in battery mode. When I bought the Notebook it was at 36W on stock but that got changed as it often hit the 95°C temp limit and throttled, leaving a unstable performance. Now it's 30W and it does reach 5600 Points in Geekbench Multi, 7070Points in Cinebench R23, and 15100 Points in Geekbench compute Vulkan.
using "Ryzen Controller" since long (now at version 2.4.1) i do advise all to lower the max temps a little to not bake your chip over time...one problem only, are you all sure the CPU VRMs are designed to deliver more than the factory limit of every laptop ? because if you burn them you will burn the CPU as well and more
He did recommend a laptop cooler, the VRM's may not have heatsinks or have direct active cooling, but increasing pressure and airflow may help. MOSFETs can handle quite a bit of heat.
@@AnotherLotte yes they can but i`ve seen many without any heatsink on them , these new gaming laptops usualy have a bigger block of metal covering VRMs too, sadly the heat will go to the CPU too...the real problem is that i`m waiting for years now to see something similar to that awesome Intel undervolting soft but we still don`t have such for Ryzen laptops
@@himanologanor4093 I understand your concern, but the VRM's will throttle once they reach their thermal or electrical limit by default. For example, the 2019 Dell XPS line up suffered from VRM throttling when at high load due to the VRM design, at stock. Using this software might not really do anything for a laptop with a weak VRM spec, but I'm pretty certain it won't kill it. I'm not saying there aren't risks involved, when it comes to adjusting these things there's always a risk however small it may be.
@@AnotherLotte another use i found to these softs, when i wanna watch a nice 4k movie in total silence on the HDMI out, i`m lowering the max temperature to 64 degrees celsius (every laptop will have another temp) at which my fans will completely turnoff but the 4800H has enough power to do anything even with that restriction
Thx Prime 👍 *AMD Tuning Utility* is ultra-cool. Win10/Win11 power packages being moved by MSFT into a tray slider is not (5:08). Kind regards, neighbours and friends.
I just tried it on a gigabyte brix with a Ryzen 4700u. I used the pre-made preset for this processor, and it actually made the performance worse, according to user benchmark. Oh well, at least it didn't fry anything. Ill just keep using it at default settings.
There is an easer way to get into the BIOS as some computer boot too fast to press the F2 key in time. In Windows 8 and up, press and hold the left Shift key while clicking Restart on the Start menu and continue holding while it restarts. The computer will look like it's restarting then bring up a menu to Continue to Windows or Turn off your PC or Troubleshoot. Click Troubleshoot then Advanced options. Then click UEFI Firmware Settings and then Restart. Your computer will restart and go straight into the BIOS.
My son's Lenovo AIO 3 (all in one) has this same exact CPU... I'm going to look into this for his all in one. I assume it would work just the same although it may not be throttled like a laptop
Can I turn tuning on/off? If I'm at home I would love to use that extra performance but when I'm out and about battery life is the priority. Thanks for the great video!
0:42 "Most manufactures will lower down the tdp for bettery battery life." My Tiger-lake Lenovo Ideapad: *sets full blow 28 watts with aggressive fan curves by default*
6:03 Also an error regarding versions: You downloaded a beta version. The latest actual release is right under it and tagged as latest release. It is 2.0.5.1.1 By the way, I'd recommend using ryzenadj from command line directly, or with a batch file or something instead. It unlocks more potential and more settings to play around, but be careful because some of the settings might cause instant BSOD.
Works great on my Lenovo Ryzen 5 3500U laptop, It does make the laptop very hot to touch at the rear by the heatsink so going to buy a laptop cooler before I use it anymore.
I have a rygen 5 5500u but after looking at the cooling system inside my laptop im shocked that the laptop survived this long, a little cooling fan handling all that
there is also the "Ryzen Controller", i just set the gpu clock to 1000mhz (ryzen 5 3500u) and i set the processor utilization to max 99% so the cpu clock speed's don't go above 1700mhz, with that i don't need to increase the cpu tdp and the processor reach at max 65 degrees when gaming
Most likely you can't, the APU TDP seems to be hardlocked/maxed out at 15W. Even if you can change it to, say, 30W it will likely burn out the hardware after a few months of usage due to overheating within that compact design.
Tried Using it on My HP Omen (Ryzen 7 5800H). I can boost TDP to ~65W (45W Stock) which results in a Performance Boost of ~400MHz under full load. The Problem is after a few seconds the CPU goes back to its rated TDP and performance drops. Any advice?
I would not really increase the voltage, I'd rather undervolt my APU. You will also get higher fps at lower temps so if you then overclock the APU (you should not make high jumps in frequency) you can get the same performance-if not better than when just increasing wattage. You maybe can combine these two things too (Idk).
@@iphone4438 bro i cant even open aatu and ryzen controller They just shut on me and get minimized everytime and wont open even after reinstall I have Ryzen 7 2700u
Need to put disclaimer, i.e. increasing the TDP will confirm drain more power, generate more heat (fire hazard) that is not catered for by the default cooling design and lastly but not the least reducing the lifespan of your PC. There is always pros and cons to a design choice and no such thing as a free meal in this world. The default TDP is set for a reason, and ties in with the thermal signature and cooling design they had with the fan, heatsink, PCB and case structure etc.
many laptop did have sufficient and remaining headroom to handle more TDP value but due to the noise level control they prefer running at lower TDP , if you have used HP laptop then you know they will give 15w for long period loading . But their design can handle way more when fan rpm up
@@wongfrank8378 yep like my hp 2200u 14xxxx I use notebook fan control temps are good cpuz SC when from 320 -368 , that's the same as stock 3770/3570H , mult 720 to 1120 that's all on battery too I will test on AC soon I've just switched over from ryxen controller it keeps bushing out , all the settings did not apply property and the GUI keep piping up all the time .
Dude, I have the exact same laptop! 5 Benjamins on Prime Day. But I'm on BIOS version EECN30WW and EC Version EEEC20WW, which appear to be older versions than yours (and mine came with a 65W USB-C adapter, not a 45W barrel plug type). I get 32W average with no tuning, doing the same P95 Small FFTs torture test. Using the Pre-Made 4500U preset that goes *down* to 20W average, and using your custom preset it only hits 26W average. Thoughts?
I have a problem with my Laptop. The TPP is 'stuck' at 22 W, and my temps are arount 60 Degrees. I can't seem to push it harder. I have a Lenovo Yoga 7 gen 6 with a 5800U
In cpu package power after apply the aatu preset My cpu still running on base tdp, i don't know why but I have followed the steps but it didn't work Help please..!!
If I up the performance anymore my 4800h is going to catch fire. It averages 96 degrees, but it is on liquid metal, has larger holes for the fans, as well as alot of small headsinks added to absorb more heat... it used to throttle down, now its just at max speed for most of the time..
Have u seen ? Added iGPU overclocking support for Renoir (4000 Series) and Lucienne (5300U, 5500U & 5700U) APUs in the new GPU Overclocking menu on AMD APU Tuning Utility V2.0.5.2 Beta 2
I'm using Ryzen7 4800H I use msconfig->Boot->Advance->CPU Core I enable just 6 cores It means 3C/6T I got better experience in gaming 5-10 Deg cooler CPU run 100% with 4.2GHz full time the games are running very smooth and stable.
@@AMUSLIM11 I've tried 2C/4T, 3C/6T, 4C/8T, 6C/12T The 4C/8T is smoothest lowest temperature,. also some stupid configuration such as 4C/7T (by setting 7 CPUs) The 4C/8T is the best, but maybe just for some kind of gaming, like PES2019, for the other may need different one
Hey mate, thanks for the tutorial! I’m using Legion 7 and it’s a very powerful machine, but the thing is that I want to play Rust which is very CPU intensive game - even more, it’s relying a lot on a single core. Will this method help me to boost performance in-game? Important note: how much of temp increase we are looking here? When I play Rust after various fixes, I get about 80-90+ degress.
I have the same apu (4500u) in a new Dell Inspiron 14 7000 2n1. I don't see anything in the bios similar to the Lenovo and running the app has no effect on tdp (stuck at 15w). Any thoughts? Thanks!
Some OEMs completely lock down the bios and don't let you edit much. My partner has the HP x360 with the 4500u and the bios is crap where you can basically just change the date. I'm sure Dell is the same.
HP is infamous for limiting the options on their BIOS, whether laptops or desktop PCS and the reason for that is so you can have a longer battery life and better temps. Maybe Dell followed this same philosophy with your laptop, hence why you can't find any power-related options in its BIOS.
Would love your reply: what would be your recommended setting for Ryzen 5 2500U using this tuning app? If possible, I would like to tune the GPU side a little bit. Much appreciated and thanks in advance 🙏
I’m on the same ryzen with a grx1050, I can get 60 fps in most games but almost always takes medium to low settings to get there, however I use this for school as well and can’t afford to fry it. I feel like instead of 25 I’d go to like 21 maybe. Idk, I really want to use some over clock tools and experiment but again, I can’t afford too lol, literally.
Will it work in a desktop? So of you up the Watson ro 30w from 15w or 25w and there's and increase fps, why not up it to 40w will it be safe? Have you tried upping it to 40w? Is there more increase in fps?
Is the BIOS choice for intelligent cooling/extreme/battery saving the same as the Func-Q cool-n-quiet setting? All my Lenovo's have the Func-Q feature. I assume the BIOS way is just another way to the same setting?
Tried the setting for 5900hs, up to 60 from 45 and it made no difference in timespy or rdr2. It actually made Halo completely crap out, went from 120+fps to 42... weird. I disabled it and now things run greet again, maybe this was too high? Anyways my 3060 seems to be the bottleneck on mine so it's not a big deal that it doesn't work.
Yeah, I have not tried to run this on my G15 with 5900HS and 3070 because I can only get up to 100 watts on the GPU when the CPU is around 20 to 30 watts. I think the Asus software will shift up to 54 watts on the CPU in Turbo and that seems fine for the HS chip. I'm more interested in a new vBIOS for the GPU to get up to 130 watts. The GPU never gets about 68 or 70c, so I feel like Asus left a lot on the table with the 3070 (and probably 3060 G15 models).
lets ignore that fact that he said the gpu overclock wont work with the 4000 series but at the top right corner it says it only works with the 4000 series and 5000u series. LOL
I am currently using the AMD Ryzen 5 3500u on my Lenovo laptop, that has a max. clock rate of 3.7 GHz. However, the static clock rate is at 2 GHz. Although I could theoretically overclock the CPU to a max. of 3.7 GHz, I know that the heating, that undoubtedly comes a long with overclocking, would destroy the entire hardware. Therefore my question is, is there any safe overclocking span while using a cooler and if so, how far could I practically go?
Regarding the memory settings, I bought an HP with 3200mhz RAM 2x4. I bought a 2x16 @3200mhz with loose timings, would this utility allow me to at least attempt to get close to my 3200mhz on my kit (it defaults to 2666mhz).
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As someone who just bought a Ryzen 5000 series laptop, I highly praise you!
Never used Google before?
@@silenthill4 tf wrong with you??
@@syafiq4175 tf is wrong with you?
@@silenthill4 lmfao own-comment liker
@@syafiq4175 ?
so basically who doesn't know letter on suffix of processor means
H = high performance
U= ultra power saver
p = performance
g= graphics
Have you tried changing the slider from best performance to balanced and tested? Best Performance keeps the power at the CPU where as Balanced will allow the GPU to use more if required. This tip was on Level 1 techs. Only applies to APUs.
You mean Windows power plan right? Is it best to use AMD profiles or just regular Windows profiles?
@@Ivan007valla correct, the windows power plan.
@@Ivan007valla They say is beter to use AMD Balance power plan for AMD Cpu
cant seem to find them bro ! seems like amd deleted what's called amd chispet driver now it comes only with windows i can only find adrenalin driver on their website (5000 series)@@MAG-Crew
@@MAG-Crew I noticed the same on my brother's HP Pavillion Gaming 15 (Intel Version). The balanced power plan gives more performance and consumes more power compared to the Ultimate Performance plan
I'd say upping it to 20-25W is safer for daily use. This video shows that you can theoritically give 30W to those APU but you need a lot of cooling and also it can kill the VRM faster. Maybe if the app has an undervolt settings it will make it a lot more safer to push the CPU.
vram? ha! I only have 500 MB vram.
@@sanctusstreams101 Do you know what VRM is?
@@racing_duck Sort of, all I know is that VRAM is connected to graphic dedicated ram, and to have only 500 megabytes (as I have) is a joke. I also know that the computer can use normal ram as graphics card ram if it gets filled up.
@@sanctusstreams101 VRM is not VRAM, VRM are actually part of the mobo and usually are cooled with some sort of heatsink and he refers to "killing the vrm faster" with getting that part of the mobo hot, which can be deadly for the whole system
@@racing_duck Oh ok. my bad. thanks for explaining.
For best result:
1.Ram must be in dual channel. Also use fastest supported ram. Ryzen CPU and GPU are heavily dependen on ram speed than Intel.
2.reduce CPU usage to 95% from 100. There by reduce CPU temperature and will help iGPU to boost longer.
3.increase GPU wattage between 25-30. Use 30W if you have a cooler. Or at least lifet laptops back side by 1inch from table for a 10°C reduction.
4.Under volt CPU so,that you don't need cooler any more.
5.change CPU thermal paste.
6.Try to get debloated windows 10 or 11 light
For better 1% low in games.Since most games run around 30fps.
is the ram overclockable above 3200mhz
@@naws69 No on Regular Laptops only Top Ones but u can buy G skill Ram 3600mhz/3800Mhz/4000mhz Kits but i neva try whit AMD Cpu.
On some laptops will have soldered RAM which makes it even more limited for what RAM you can use. Even if you have RAM with same size but with much faster speed, the system won't utilise the extra speed because dual-channel RAM requires the RAM to run at about the same speed as the internal RAM. Even worse, you can't use RAM with different size because the system won't run dual-channel on it.
Great video for anyone who wants to gain quick 30% fps increase. Two things I want to mention:
1) If you have single channel memory; don't even bother. It won't affect it on GPU performance. luckily i have 8x2
2) when i do anything above 20W with ryzenadj(the command line front-end used by AATU and alike), laptop jumps to 90C and throttles down to 400mhz. great job HP.
(3500U, hp 15 db-1068nt, if anyone cares about this cheap ryzen laptop)
They fixed it at the next generation of that Laptop aren't they?
@@dzxtricks i dont know, i dont have it. mine is a late 2019 unit, i bought at late February of 2020(i knew what's gonna happen).
@@pcislocked still happen with my ryzen 4300u. Jumping to 800mhz. When too hot going to 400mhz
Does increasing the TDP will benefit me even doe I have a dedicated GPU?
@@tokarikure253 not after some point. watch your cpu frequency as you step it up. going too far might hurt your gpu performance even if you have a dedicated one, since they share a limited power budget on a laptop
I really hope this stuff works on the Steam Deck somehow atleast when plugged in
I think it will be doable, but don't expect Valve to do it: One of the news items about the steam deck is that Valve has gone on record saying they won't offer any performance uplift at all from "docking" the steam deck. This can only be attributed at the cooling solution constrains since we know power constrains wouldn't be an issue plugged in but heat would if the headsink can't handle it, and everything seems to point to that. I even expect Valve to not even enable the option on the bios by default so it will b e a fairly complicated process involving flashing the bios more likely, probably not worth it.
Since those APUs on the steam deck will be on DDR5 and using RDNA 2 (vs DDR4 and Vega cores here) I would expect the performance to be similar to this laptop chips at 30 watts with the steam deck at just 15 watts: the gains on performance will make up for the reduced power limit so until it's actually out for testing I wouldn't worry too much.
Cooling will be a problem, but we can try the gaming phone coolers
Yes because it's built on Linux, so unless you can't use the console, there is a way somehow.
Even if cooling is an issue, it might be able to be undervolted to get better performance at the same 15W tdp.
I was planning to do this on the steamdeck when I got it but apparently Valve has confirmed it will have it's own onboard CPU tuning including TDP control (unclear whether it's gonna be a custom driver feature or a bios utility but it will be natively possible)
I tested the APU Tuning Utility on my new ryzen laptop but it turns out my laptop has this feature built in.
The Asus software my Vivobook came with does almost exactly what this utility does. 7-10 watts on Whisper mode, 15-18 watts on balanced and 30 watt burst / 25 watts sustained on performance mode when plugged into the charger. CPU got up to 90 C while stress testing it. This is great tech for lightweight gaming.
Armory Crate?
Are you using performance mode on myasus app?
What model is your vivobook ?????
Is look into the latest program UXTU and see if you can undervolt; that way you get the stock power plans from Lenovo but leaving some headroom with the voltage from the curve optimizer if available for your setup.
After watching your videos I did this bios change to my Lenovo Flex 5 with Ryzen 4700U and it did speed it up quite a bit, I did not need to use the AATU app since the bios change alone works for my needs . Oh I also did change to thermal paste to the Kingpin thermal paste just to be on the safe side as well. Thanks
This is exactly what I was looking for. Great video! ✌🏾
Thanks ETA! More power!!!!
AATU tutorial starts at 5:45
As of this writing, AATU has been superseded by Universal Tuning Utility.
UTU overheated my Beelink SER5 Pro (R7 5800H) mini pc and I just set it to Balanced preset. I set it to start at system boot now it abruptly shuts down soonest the preset is auto applied.
Update 1: I managed to close the app from the system tray before it applied the preset. I uninstalled it.
Update 2: It disabled my network adapter. It fails with a Code 10 - This device cannot start.
Update 3: I power cycled the mini pc by, shutting it down, disconnecting the power cable, holding the power button for 30s, and waiting for 10mins before reconnecting the cable then turning it back on. THAT WORKED.
Proceed at your own risk. I would suggest to stay away from the new app and stick with Ryzen Controller 2.6.0 Stable.
That's mean ur mini pc is dead now?
@@AMUSLIM11 No I removed UTU. I do all modifications in the BIOS now.
Thank you so much for saving me
Heres lil tip for heating issues go into bios by turning on pc and pressing f10 when there its gonna be option for configuration and there by deafult is disabeled "fan alyways active" enable it to fix heating issues
@ETA Prime Thanks for the video! I'm gonna test it on my R5 3500U HP Pavilion 15 once I get a cooling pad. Max advertised TDP should be 35W but I'll go with 28W first and if I feel comfortable enough, I'll up it to 30W. I want to be cautious since my laptop is the only PC I currently have and I can't afford anything else at this moment. I can run it off the wall all the time without caring about killing the battery since it's pretty much dead and at this point I'm no longer interested in getting a replacement but rather a new laptop/desktop PC.
hey how is your laptop holding up?
@@Slurpee99 My laptop is doing fine, thanks. Sadly, I can't get neither the tuning utility nor MSI Afterburner to work properly. I mean, they open and I can set some options but that's it. The tuning utility doesn't do anything to improve the performance and MSI Afterburner overlay doesn't appear anywhere when I run any game. I really don't know what to do so as to get them to work as intended.
@@krazycharlie i see. I was asking because we have the same spec. I would to try but if it doesn’t show any difference then I won’t do it. Thank you for your feedback.
@@Slurpee99 I have a Ryzen 5 3500u ryzen controller works great for boosting performance and adjusting TDP. MSI also works fine for me.
man ive been waiting for a while for someone to make a vid on AATU, it's about time people switch from ryzen controller
I really wouldn't recommend 30W on Acer/HP laptops with 45w PSU especially the cheaper ones. Just use the default premade settings. With a laptop cooler, it might be okay but from testing an Acer, the PSU was running at a very uncomfortable temperature.
i think its recommended to purchase another psu with more TDP resistance, and of course some air cooling personalized cooling pad made with noctua cooling fan with 12v so the air cooling in the laptop can be awesome without overheating the CPU and Igpu
@@andresMadrid7651 so is there any danger in overheating (I use my laptop sometimes in rooms above 80 fereignhet) or does will the laptop be able to throttle down the apu safely despite the higher tdp?
If anything dont use normal lappy to game
Theyre not designed like that
Lucky I have 65W HP laptop PSU but the my main laptop (hp laptop) have 15w CPU
@@ekoms108 The laptop will automatically shut down if it reaches 100c, it's ok to use it at 85c when gaming sometimes but not for too long.
I had a 4500u with 32gb but a low tdp.
It was a pavilion laptop.
It was impressive.
Then I finally found a pc in stock and that was the end of the 4500u,
I soon realized that laptops are for work.
Bro, my laptop caught on fire and almost burned my house down... Great tutorial though! I was getting 20 more fps for a good 15-20 mins! THANKS! Now i'm going to take my charred $500 laptop out to the trash once it cools off.
@@jimiverson6171 you okay bruh?
I bought a ryzen 5 5500u kaptop a week ago this helps!
Update : I don't think this is necessary for a r5 5500u processor i mean its fast enough already
Seems pretty nice but I would still just sick with the ultra performance mode for the LENOVO laptops, don't want to push it too hard
Awesome tutorial, highly appreciated, HUGE thank you!
Just be careful -- not all VRMs will support and survive this. Also, not all laptop cooling systems will be able to fight extra 7C-25C of the heat.
IMHO, Lenovo and other cut TDP in order to use cheaper components for VRM and cooling. With low-end TDP these cheap components are just fine, but there is not guarantee they will last with 50% boost.
does this still apply if you are undervolting and deacreasing temps?
@@peter660 Did you ever try undervolting? I’m considering it but documentation
is basically nonexistent.
@@Enter-the-Meta Yup, I have my gpu undervolted, especially when I play games. I found a really knowledgeable and helpful reddit post. But I was unable to find it for you, but I am sure there are other helpful posts out there. Need help with anything?
@@peter660 you mean undervolting cpu, igpu or dedicated gpu?
@@patriciomarco I always have my dedicated GPU undervolted. But sometimes I will undervolt my CPU as well, depending on the circumstances.
just bought an Omen 15 with a 5600H and 3060, this was exactly what i was looking for. Thanks a lot!
do u really need to do that with an H series CPU tho?? idtso man. it should be running around 30-40watts itself
@@siddhantyadav450 You can squeeze in a bit more performance with AATU. I use an Omen 15 with 4600H+1660Ti and Apex Legends ran at a higher FPS with the template given in the app. Though my laptop runs a lot hotter too
@@begula6763 yes obv it'll run a bit better but as u said about the temps. I don't think the performance gain is worth having when comparing with the temps. It just decreases the life of the laptop for gains that are not really needed. Overclocking imo is useful mostly for ultrabooks having APUs coz they do really need the power.
@@siddhantyadav450 Do you actually have proof about decreasing the life of the laptop? I've heavily OCd every laptop I've ever had and still have them go like a champ after 5 years! All I do is make sure to have premium cooling solution such as liquid metal and you are good to go! Yes the fans max out and you bake an egg on the damn things but if that vs some few frames of extra fps are not your cup of tea, you should stay the hell away from OC in general!
@@jeffreyokun2355 yeah you work on the cooling right, as long as temps are fine then its all good but normally ppl just overclock the laptop without doing anything for the temps. If u run your machiene at 90C for multiple hours everyday. believe me youre going wrong places with your laptop. and for gaming, I'd much rather go for UV than OC honestly especially on a laptop
Excellent tutorial and very straightforward
Oh man I appreciate you making this video. Really helpful. ❤️
Just got a 4500u laptop to upgrade from my 1035g1 gateway, yet performance was worse which depressed me. Then after buying dual channel ram, still nothing. Then I come across this blessed video and now have literally 85% higher Geekbench scores. Damn, thanks for this!
bro can i close the app when i am done this atuu or ?
My HP Probook 445 G7 has 4500u with single 16gb channel 25w. Thinking of buying x2 8gb to make it dual. atm I am getting around 10 FPS on Mafia - Definitve Edition. No overheating issues, CPU/GPU goes up to 95c.
Looks like you faced improper automatic TDP issue. Many Ryzen laptops are prone with this type of problem.
@@rhakious2547 Yes
@@nathanlamaire It is frustrating. I also sometimes have to have the charger plugged in to see the gains. It's stupid that the auto tdp is bare minimum. It will go to 12.5w when it reaches 50% battery, which is dumb.
Nice help for some notebook, my own nasus notebook does actually handle 30W TDP on 5500U on Standard, going down to 15W only in battery mode.
When I bought the Notebook it was at 36W on stock but that got changed as it often hit the 95°C temp limit and throttled, leaving a unstable performance.
Now it's 30W and it does reach 5600 Points in Geekbench Multi, 7070Points in Cinebench R23, and 15100 Points in Geekbench compute Vulkan.
using "Ryzen Controller" since long (now at version 2.4.1) i do advise all to lower the max temps a little to not bake your chip over time...one problem only, are you all sure the CPU VRMs are designed to deliver more than the factory limit of every laptop ? because if you burn them you will burn the CPU as well and more
He did recommend a laptop cooler, the VRM's may not have heatsinks or have direct active cooling, but increasing pressure and airflow may help. MOSFETs can handle quite a bit of heat.
@@AnotherLotte yes they can but i`ve seen many without any heatsink on them , these new gaming laptops usualy have a bigger block of metal covering VRMs too, sadly the heat will go to the CPU too...the real problem is that i`m waiting for years now to see something similar to that awesome Intel undervolting soft but we still don`t have such for Ryzen laptops
@@himanologanor4093 I understand your concern, but the VRM's will throttle once they reach their thermal or electrical limit by default. For example, the 2019 Dell XPS line up suffered from VRM throttling when at high load due to the VRM design, at stock. Using this software might not really do anything for a laptop with a weak VRM spec, but I'm pretty certain it won't kill it.
I'm not saying there aren't risks involved, when it comes to adjusting these things there's always a risk however small it may be.
@@AnotherLotte another use i found to these softs, when i wanna watch a nice 4k movie in total silence on the HDMI out, i`m lowering the max temperature to 64 degrees celsius (every laptop will have another temp) at which my fans will completely turnoff but the 4800H has enough power to do anything even with that restriction
@@himanologanor4093 to my knowledge under volting ryzens doesn't do much and using ryzen controller is good enough
Thx Prime 👍
*AMD Tuning Utility* is ultra-cool.
Win10/Win11 power packages being moved by MSFT into a tray slider is not (5:08).
Kind regards, neighbours and friends.
Thanks man about to buy the legion great tutorial
Great job, worked for me!
Wow, it's the Coorel! Nice.
Bookmarking this for later use.
I just tried it on a gigabyte brix with a Ryzen 4700u. I used the pre-made preset for this processor, and it actually made the performance worse, according to user benchmark.
Oh well, at least it didn't fry anything. Ill just keep using it at default settings.
There is an easer way to get into the BIOS as some computer boot too fast to press the F2 key in time.
In Windows 8 and up, press and hold the left Shift key while clicking Restart on the Start menu and continue holding while it restarts.
The computer will look like it's restarting then bring up a menu to Continue to Windows or Turn off your PC or Troubleshoot.
Click Troubleshoot then Advanced options.
Then click UEFI Firmware Settings and then Restart.
Your computer will restart and go straight into the BIOS.
On my HP 17 cp0xxx those uefi settings are actually just tests and diagnostics I couldn't find anything to change
One thing that helps more on Ryzen apu's is dual channel ram, adding a stick transforms everythingggg
My son's Lenovo AIO 3 (all in one) has this same exact CPU... I'm going to look into this for his all in one. I assume it would work just the same although it may not be throttled like a laptop
2 videos in 1 day, feels like xmas
Another Great Video!
Thanks for this good video
Can I turn tuning on/off? If I'm at home I would love to use that extra performance but when I'm out and about battery life is the priority. Thanks for the great video!
Yes you can. Just please be careful and I’m planning on doing the exact same thing.
Intel: Undervolt your cpu for better performance
AMD: MORE POWER
Excellent but I would like to see what you recommend for gpu settings on 2000 series.
Same
0:42
"Most manufactures will lower down the tdp for bettery battery life."
My Tiger-lake Lenovo Ideapad: *sets full blow 28 watts with aggressive fan curves by default*
Because it’s intel i see many laptop that use intel tiger-lake set to 28tdp w
@@zwart9881 idk why they didn't make a tdp setting on the bios.
6:03 Also an error regarding versions: You downloaded a beta version. The latest actual release is right under it and tagged as latest release. It is 2.0.5.1.1
By the way, I'd recommend using ryzenadj from command line directly, or with a batch file or something instead. It unlocks more potential and more settings to play around, but be careful because some of the settings might cause instant BSOD.
raspberry power user here. It happens :))
@Redfix it's a 3250U with 2 cores, 20W should be more than enough. you just need to try to see
Works great on my Lenovo Ryzen 5 3500U laptop, It does make the laptop very hot to touch at the rear by the heatsink so going to buy a laptop cooler before I use it anymore.
Does it improves the fps when gaming?
I have a rygen 5 5500u but after looking at the cooling system inside my laptop im shocked that the laptop survived this long, a little cooling fan handling all that
there is also the "Ryzen Controller", i just set the gpu clock to 1000mhz (ryzen 5 3500u) and i set the processor utilization to max 99% so the cpu clock speed's don't go above 1700mhz, with that i don't need to increase the cpu tdp and the processor reach at max 65 degrees when gaming
Sure
How do you do that
Sir you are the best TH-camr for me
thanks i just bought a ryzen laptop btw can you do a review on dell g5 15 se please.
You are 100% responsible for all broken laptops. 😂
Lol, all his videos only teaches you how to jump, never shows how you can save yourself after the jump.
I have a not-so-fresh 2018 Matebook D R5, I'd love to squeeze out some more oomph out of it especially in gaming
let me know how it goes :D I have the Matebook 13
Can’t wait to use this with Steam Deck 😍
Most likely you can't, the APU TDP seems to be hardlocked/maxed out at 15W.
Even if you can change it to, say, 30W it will likely burn out the hardware after a few months of usage due to overheating within that compact design.
Get cooling pad or something else while your on it
Thanks for the video, it helped me a lot. Congratulations for the exceptional work. how do i get back to default settings?
Restarting your device should reset it.
Hoping to be able to use this on my Steam deck!!!
I wouldn’t overclock a tablet
Tried Using it on My HP Omen (Ryzen 7 5800H). I can boost TDP to ~65W (45W Stock) which results in a Performance Boost of ~400MHz under full load. The Problem is after a few seconds the CPU goes back to its rated TDP and performance drops. Any advice?
I would not really increase the voltage, I'd rather undervolt my APU. You will also get higher fps at lower temps so if you then overclock the APU (you should not make high jumps in frequency) you can get the same performance-if not better than when just increasing wattage. You maybe can combine these two things too (Idk).
You can also do this on intel HD/UHD but not much as APUs get (source: increased TDP 15 to 20 to 30 on intel HD 520 and it's not huge but it can help)
Thanks alot.I have a lenovo thinkbook 14 with ryzen 4500u and a soldered 8g ram 3200mhz is this safe ? And do i need to expand ram ?
thanks, i'll try that with my 3500u
Appreciate you brothe
my laptop hp 15 AU... ryzen 5 3500u i use ryzen controller is working 30w tdp but after 10-15 second tdp drop to 5W hp bios limit temp 70 °😇
@@iphone4438 bro i cant even open aatu and ryzen controller
They just shut on me and get minimized everytime and wont open even after reinstall
I have Ryzen 7 2700u
Will trying for my legion 5 pro, let's break the limit!
getting ready for steam deck
Need to put disclaimer, i.e. increasing the TDP will confirm drain more power, generate more heat (fire hazard) that is not catered for by the default cooling design and lastly but not the least reducing the lifespan of your PC.
There is always pros and cons to a design choice and no such thing as a free meal in this world. The default TDP is set for a reason, and ties in with the thermal signature and cooling design they had with the fan, heatsink, PCB and case structure etc.
many laptop did have sufficient and remaining headroom to handle more TDP value but due to the noise level control they prefer running at lower TDP , if you have used HP laptop then you know they will give 15w for long period loading . But their design can handle way more when fan rpm up
@@wongfrank8378 yep like my hp 2200u 14xxxx I use notebook fan control temps are good cpuz SC when from 320 -368 , that's the same as stock 3770/3570H , mult 720 to 1120 that's all on battery too I will test on AC soon I've just switched over from ryxen controller it keeps bushing out , all the settings did not apply property and the GUI keep piping up all the time .
Dude, I have the exact same laptop! 5 Benjamins on Prime Day. But I'm on BIOS version EECN30WW and EC Version EEEC20WW, which appear to be older versions than yours (and mine came with a 65W USB-C adapter, not a 45W barrel plug type). I get 32W average with no tuning, doing the same P95 Small FFTs torture test. Using the Pre-Made 4500U preset that goes *down* to 20W average, and using your custom preset it only hits 26W average. Thoughts?
did you get any better performance?
HEY i'd like to know what software u using for OSD for your FPS benchmark....
I have a problem with my Laptop. The TPP is 'stuck' at 22 W, and my temps are arount 60 Degrees. I can't seem to push it harder.
I have a Lenovo Yoga 7 gen 6 with a 5800U
Why mine doesn't work, i already apply my tweaks and its still running in 15 watts, someone help?
In cpu package power after apply the aatu preset
My cpu still running on base tdp, i don't know why but I have followed the steps but it didn't work
Help please..!!
If I up the performance anymore my 4800h is going to catch fire. It averages 96 degrees, but it is on liquid metal, has larger holes for the fans, as well as alot of small headsinks added to absorb more heat... it used to throttle down, now its just at max speed for most of the time..
This is very interesting, can make 5600H into '5600U' for longer battery if used on the go
Have u seen ? Added iGPU overclocking support for Renoir (4000 Series) and Lucienne (5300U, 5500U & 5700U) APUs in the new GPU Overclocking menu on AMD APU Tuning Utility V2.0.5.2 Beta 2
I'm using Ryzen7 4800H
I use msconfig->Boot->Advance->CPU Core
I enable just 6 cores
It means 3C/6T
I got better experience in gaming
5-10 Deg cooler
CPU run 100% with 4.2GHz full time
the games are running very smooth and stable.
What if I enable 12T? 6C/12T
@@AMUSLIM11 I've tried 2C/4T, 3C/6T, 4C/8T, 6C/12T
The 4C/8T is smoothest
lowest temperature,.
also some stupid configuration such as 4C/7T (by setting 7 CPUs)
The 4C/8T is the best, but maybe just for some kind of gaming, like PES2019, for the other may need different one
Hey mate, thanks for the tutorial!
I’m using Legion 7 and it’s a very powerful machine, but the thing is that I want to play Rust which is very CPU intensive game - even more, it’s relying a lot on a single core.
Will this method help me to boost performance in-game?
Important note: how much of temp increase we are looking here? When I play Rust after various fixes, I get about 80-90+ degress.
I have the same apu (4500u) in a new Dell Inspiron 14 7000 2n1. I don't see anything in the bios similar to the Lenovo and running the app has no effect on tdp (stuck at 15w). Any thoughts? Thanks!
Some OEMs completely lock down the bios and don't let you edit much.
My partner has the HP x360 with the 4500u and the bios is crap where you can basically just change the date. I'm sure Dell is the same.
HP is infamous for limiting the options on their BIOS, whether laptops or desktop PCS and the reason for that is so you can have a longer battery life and better temps. Maybe Dell followed this same philosophy with your laptop, hence why you can't find any power-related options in its BIOS.
It is great. Could you make tutorial that unlock the watt of new version gpu like 3070 ,3080
@ETA Prime can you please do a video on using this on a desktop?
Thanks
I would use Ryzen Master on a desktop.
thx for your help
id say a 15-20 fps improvement, it was as low as 17fps at one point on 15w
Great video. Do you know if I can use this to turn an old A8 APU?
AMD Overdrive should work for older chips. I was able to get a 20% boost in Cinebench on my A10 7300, but no such luck with PCSX2. Good luck!
Would love your reply: what would be your recommended setting for Ryzen 5 2500U using this tuning app? If possible, I would like to tune the GPU side a little bit. Much appreciated and thanks in advance 🙏
I’m on the same ryzen with a grx1050, I can get 60 fps in most games but almost always takes medium to low settings to get there, however I use this for school as well and can’t afford to fry it. I feel like instead of 25 I’d go to like 21 maybe. Idk, I really want to use some over clock tools and experiment but again, I can’t afford too lol, literally.
do you have, or plan to make a video covering the new version of the software?
"Universal x86 Tuning Utility"
Will it work in a desktop? So of you up the Watson ro 30w from 15w or 25w and there's and increase fps, why not up it to 40w will it be safe? Have you tried upping it to 40w? Is there more increase in fps?
Is the BIOS choice for intelligent cooling/extreme/battery saving the same as the Func-Q cool-n-quiet setting? All my Lenovo's have the Func-Q feature. I assume the BIOS way is just another way to the same setting?
I think so
Damn... No one else noticed that cooler pad says "ICE COOREL" other than me?
Tried the setting for 5900hs, up to 60 from 45 and it made no difference in timespy or rdr2. It actually made Halo completely crap out, went from 120+fps to 42... weird. I disabled it and now things run greet again, maybe this was too high? Anyways my 3060 seems to be the bottleneck on mine so it's not a big deal that it doesn't work.
Yeah, I have not tried to run this on my G15 with 5900HS and 3070 because I can only get up to 100 watts on the GPU when the CPU is around 20 to 30 watts. I think the Asus software will shift up to 54 watts on the CPU in Turbo and that seems fine for the HS chip. I'm more interested in a new vBIOS for the GPU to get up to 130 watts. The GPU never gets about 68 or 70c, so I feel like Asus left a lot on the table with the 3070 (and probably 3060 G15 models).
I think this only works on ryzen igpus
lets ignore that fact that he said the gpu overclock wont work with the 4000 series but at the top right corner it says it only works with the 4000 series and 5000u series. LOL
Will it damage the laptop?
If it gets really hot like 95 degrees celsius then it might
*_So how do you go back to stock settings after applying these changes?_*
yes I would also like to know, as my system feels a little sluggish now
@10:36 what software are you using to monitor your TDP and temps while gaming?
That's MSI Afterburner. I use that as well
I am currently using the AMD Ryzen 5 3500u on my Lenovo laptop, that has a max. clock rate of 3.7 GHz. However, the static clock rate is at 2 GHz. Although I could theoretically overclock the CPU to a max. of 3.7 GHz, I know that the heating, that undoubtedly comes a long with overclocking, would destroy the entire hardware. Therefore my question is, is there any safe overclocking span while using a cooler and if so, how far could I practically go?
Is it possible like to do these settings on a hp laptop . Im talking about the 15S series with the same configuration
Hopefully someone made a tutorial for the 2500U.
wow..coool. anyway can we do this to intel t series ultra low power cpu? (I5 4590T)
Regarding the memory settings, I bought an HP with 3200mhz RAM 2x4. I bought a 2x16 @3200mhz with loose timings, would this utility allow me to at least attempt to get close to my 3200mhz on my kit (it defaults to 2666mhz).
Can you please make an updated version of this video ?
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Did you say this works on desktops as well? If so, would you mind doing a similar video with a 3000G series or higher?
I would use Ryzen Master on a desktop.
The temperature will gonna rising up too, huh ? Hmm.. don't wanna. My old laptop already suffering from high temp.