@nmashie17I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter if it's a soul or not, nothing can get pass his infinity unless you have that an ability that can cut through space itself
YOU BET I DID! I'll be mentioning abilities and events from the most recent chapters of Undead Unluck in this comment. If whoever is reading this believes that Andy would be stunned by Gojo's domain even if he can't die from the sure-hit, it was shown in chapter 191 of Undead Unluck that Andy is able to control his body with his soul independent of his brain to counter a time lag on his mind and soul and because of this, he would be able to move regardless of his brain being overloaded. Gojo opening his domain is the worst move he could ever choose because, once his domain has ended, Gojo's CT would be on burnout, allowing Andy to touch him and thereby punish him for a prolonged instance. Now that I've explained how Andy could reach Gojo, I will scale Andy's stats in comparison to Gojo's to illustrate how badly Andy stomps. Andy's AP: During the same aforementioned chapter, Soul, the No. 1 superior rule, states 'Amazing. And you're not even my vessel. There's no denying it... this loop's strongest Negator... is you.' which scales him above every Negator due to the obvious and for even fighting and impressing the top rule while restraining all the others, with even th lowest of them Sick showing they can fight against the entire Union. This would put Andy's attack potency above Shen, Feng, Gina, and Tatiana, who all have City level calcs, Tatiana's being mountain, and he would also scale above Top's 509 TERATON LARGE COUNTRY calculation of splitting a cloud! Therefore, putting Andy's AP at least at large country level and likely continental. Gojo's AP: Gojo is blatantly No. 2 in the verse, at least at the moment, putting him above all but every calculation, like Ryu Ishigori's small town feat of vaporising a street and Uruame's town level ice structures. The most important calculations are a large town earthquake calc because Gojo did that feat himself and Sukuna's small city fire arrow due to it being one of the strongest attacks by a relative character. Therefore, putting Gojo's AP (and durability since he can take these attacks and uses the same energy to protect himself) at large town to small city. Quick debunk on higher scaling for those who bring up the following: 1. A JJK character's AP and dura do not scale to their domain as a result of their domain using way more energy than anything in their arsenal. 2. Special grade sorcerers aren't country level because of Kenny's statement in chapter 203 due to it specifically being in regard to 'overthrowing' and not destruction of a country-sized area, hence the emphasis on Geto being one for making an army. 3. No one scales to Yuki"s large planetary black hole, a consequence of her using her life to make it, which in JJK makes one's attack far stronger, as shown with Mei Mei killing a special grade curse in a single hit using relatively normal crows. This should be especially true for Yuki, as her life of a special grade sorceress is a far higher sacrifice. Andy's speed: Even early on in his fight with Gina, Andy has been able to dodge lasers which we know are made of light, as that was the reason they were able to bypass Gina's barrier, explained by Andy. In chapter 187, Andy shoots his soul beams from the sun to the earth in a couple of panels which have been calculated at the lowest 16 times the speed of light to 99 times the speed of light! Gojo's speed: The highest way to arguably scale Gojo's speed is by saying Sukuna is a few times FTL for dodging electromagnetic waves and that he scales to his true form or even faster with blue, with his Heian form blitzing Kashimo, who keeps up with him. In conclusion, Gojo is at best keeping up with Andy's speed as well as having his strongest attacks be casually eclipsed to the tier just above by Andy and at worst completely blitzed and destroyed.
He doesn’t even need to do that, a broken bone would still heal just fine, it was only dislocations that wouldn’t heal but that’s not an issue anymore with his newfound mastery over his soul.
Exactly, and This is why Andy’s so powerful against other fictional characters. Since, even if Andy fights a character with existence erasure, Andy could probably still beat them because he’d probably count being erased as dying
It also not outside his character to find weird and unique ways to win. So unless Gojo is holding someone Andy cares about as hostage or something he would have no issues letting Gojo age out of the fight.
Funnier sure better as character well depends to what version we're talking stronger nah Deadpool CAN die. one Deadpool have kill like hundreds other Deadpool from across the multiverse
For people who don't understand,if a negator interprets something new to their own negation,that interpretation is gonna be added to their negation meaning its gonna be automatic.That means even if Andy can't think his Undead is still gonna work.
@@quevinquinvulafrancisco2653 True, however, when he was waiting in space, unable to do anything, just floating around, he remained conscious for billions of years until the Earth was created once again
not to mention that it was litterly shown in more recent chapters that he can move his fully paralyzed body via his own soul. The point of him seeing being paralyzed as a form of death in general would negate it to begin with😅
@@phantom9831 yea he was locked but that doesn't mean anything. It's not that he didn't consider it death, after all during that whole time he was just a head so he was literally physically dead, it's just that he couldn't regenerate because the box of air didn't leave enough space for his whole body.
Nah Andy wouldnt fall for that shit again. Gojo will never beat Andy. Andy will just continue trolling Gojo until Gojo dies of fucking old age, The end.
Then again, Hollow purple exists, it is a existence - conceptual erasure, it is a contradiction and as Gojo once stated, he can bring contradictions into reality. Therefore, he can make someone dead, but not dead at the same time.
@@jin2821 That degree of wanking is insane. Hollow purple isn't conceptual erasure but instead just atomic erasure. Hollow purple couldn't even kill sukuna at 200%
if the battle keep going Andy wins by default cuz he can just outlast. Gojo would either run out of curse energy and any kills him or die of exhaustion.even if they fought for a long time gojo would would just die of old age
@@GoldKoi18 he still ages tho all gojo could hope to do is incapacitate andy or if being generous gojo can fight for years straight gojo would just die of old age eventually
I'll only add one thing into this convo and that's that Hollow Purple would not kill Andy Ignoring the fact that Undead negates the concept of dying (people see it as just OP regen but thsts because he LITERALLY cannot die even if basically atomized) Hollow Purple has been shown time and time again that it is NOT existence erasure; just durability negation Hanami got hit but was able to heal it off, and Sukuna caught two of them back to back on the dome So yeah, Andy still takes this lol
@@mrjong-pildasong1468 He didn’t use RCT to refill his CE. His CE can last him for a nigh-infinite amount of time, he simply used RCT to heal his brain because of his Domain Expansion spam. And Gojo wouldn’t spam domain against Andy considering he only did so against Sukuna to prevent Mahoraga’s adaptation.
Andy is literally immortal in every sense of the word and gojo has zero ways of killing him. Even if Andy can’t kill gojo either he will eventually win because gojo does of old age
Holy crap that's an andy stop tf? Duplication+ regen can just have him get de'd and finish gojo outside of in. Also dodging straight up lazers is far more solid than jjks infamous spped scaling where you have to take yoga classes to get to those stretches
@@locar99Mahito has to touch you physically to manipulate your soul, Andy doesn't have that restriction. A few characters in undead unluck actually have greater soul manipulation feats than Mahito. For instance, Andy has a technique called soul parts bullet that he shot all the way from the Sun to the Earth, he basically could no-scope gojo from across the planet.
@whyexist626 I know nothing about andy, but from an anime watcher perspective on gojo, Infinity LITERALLY creates infinite space. Mahoraga could go through it because CE is self-negating on the exact same level. Andy can't do that, and he doesnt even have CE, so the infinite space is impossible for Andy to reach the end of.
The only thing i could think for andy to beat gojo is if he maybe use his waxing cresant moon sword that is an astral sword made from his soul an maybe it can bypass infinity because its and astral blade
@@Deflamed_Sphere well yeah inveted spear of heaven is just kryptonyte for cursed techniques so thats why it passed, because it canceled it not pass through it
If Andy can use his soul to move while the very concept of movement and avoiding were completely removed from him, then he absolutely could use his soul to get past Infinity. Souls are stated to trancend physical boundaries in Un Un after all Plus, Gojo can’t use Infinity after a DE, so even ignoring Soul Manip, all Andy would have to do is wait for Gojo to use his Domain Expansion and then go for the kill
The second Gojo uses Domain Expansion, its over. If Andy sees being brain dead as a form of death, he recovers from Infinite Void and kills Gojo since he can't use infinity. RCT aint saving him from being severed.
@@weewoo_luxWhat’s the most interesting is Sukuna’s ability to cut souls vs Andy. I’m guessing Andy has soul regen or just straight up can’t be killed even if his soul is destroyed.
@@myusername3689Andy in the latest chapters is holding off the 10 most powerful rules in the sun with his soul. He has very high chance not dying to soul attackd
nuh uh, hakari is so weak in that scece We are talking about the guy who the god who create a thing that create the universe just to be destriyed but the god himself CANT KILL HIM IS A F*** BUG IN HES GAME XD
Just as a note on paralysis stuff... if it's from the neck down, Parts Bullet: Tongue can be used. and he can just regenerate from the tongue as well. In all honesty, Gojo would probably get along with the Union, ESPECIALLY the current one in the Manga. I can see him chilling with everyone I see the real wincon for Andy in a deathmatch between him and Gojo as forcing cursed technique burnout. If he can make him overuse his Domain enough that he can't even use his cursed technique, Andy has a shot at getting in a few hits. It's not MUCH of a chance but it's something.
Andy has Soul manipulation stronger than Mahito and is on par with Master Rule No.1 "Soul" which is enough to tank and contain all 9 other Master rules for millions of years not to mention regen strong enough to survive the sun. Gojo ain't winning 😅.
So does anyone know where bro got "infinity has stopped spiritual attacks" from. On god i cant remember a single istance of that happening in the entire manga. Fight basically just comes down to how the soul interacts with infinity and thats only if we want andy to have a wincon that isnt gojo dieing of old age. Id like to say that andy could make gojo run out of stamina but assuming he cant hit him idk what would stop gojo from taking a nap right on the battlefield. Other than that i dont believe gojo has any win con other than sealing andy but thats also spotty at best since he has shown he is plenty capable of breaking out of insane seals.
There’s actually 2 endings: 1: They befriend each other because white haired besides 2: Gojo runs out of cursed energy, (it’s actually possible seen with him vs Sukuna, after gojo uses domain too much)
He doesnt run out of CE to use domain expansion, he could still keep using it along with sukuna its just that gojo destroyed his brain with ce and repaired it with rct, and he is inexperienced in doing this so it backfired and that part of his brain malfunctioned so he couldnt use domain, thats why he started bleeding. same for sukuna, he didnt run out of ce to use domain he just couldnt because gojo's UV gave him brain damage so he couldnt use domain. so theres two endings: They befriend eachother Gojo domain expansion's andy and since andy cant heal at an infinite rate (UV spews info from the universe at an infinite rate) and hasnt been shown to heal non physical attacks (attacking soul, or 'knowledge' or the brain, not physically.) and if andy accidentally 'dies' from this and heals back from it (somehow) gojo will just use domain expansion again and end it after 1 or 2 seconds so andy doesnt die and is just incapicated for a few centuries
@@zyofroma5718 thats not how it works lmfao, please stop tryna bs your way through this its an overload that the human brain simply cannot handle. Even then andy has hundreds of billions worth of info stored in his brain that is unleashed once he switches to viktor
can god even kill andy w reality warping or taking away undead, or is andy just straight up the strongest character in all of fiction now since he can take saitamas punches
I have a idea. If we are considering incapacitating the opponent a win, gojo could do the 0.02 second domain he used on shibuya. This will give Andy brain damage, but maybe it will be considered different from braindeath since that can be reversed naturally in a couple of months and he is still technically alive, so if doesn't work he can shorten his domain activation even more if necessary. this way he won't heal instantly after leaving the domain, giving the win to gojo. (Sorry for bad English, it's not my main language.)
issue is andy can process billions of years worth of memories, as shown with victor (his alter ego) having lived through 100 several billion year long loops
I doubt it, Andy's Undead works on the smallest cuts. Anything with the slightest chance to be fatal will be healed by Undead. The only way to really get around it is dislocations, stuff that wouldn't be fatal even under the slightest circumstances, overwhelming force that pin him down, or sealing him away through some technique, and all of these would be less likely to work where he is in the manga now.
That only happened because seal explicitly was not aware of souls If there is some kind of seal that seals the body and the soul it would theoretically seal andy@@lopezroilans.8384
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the first conclusion still ends in andy's win technically because andy didn't die and would be freed again after gojo's death (from old age) so in the end gojo would be dead and andy would be completely free with not injuries
Would infinite void even work on Andy? He’s experienced everything and anything so it’s a stretch to say the overstimulation from infinite void would even work
Andy already won this matchup on the series against unchange lmao. He either gets his blood through infinity and kills him, or he blinds gojo with blood, and can probably just use enough to suffocate him
If I remember right the only way to penetrate Gojo's defense is to use an attack that utilizes subatomic particles, doesn't require the traversal of space to make contact, or to cut space like Sukuna did. Since Andy doesn't have access to any of that as a part of his normal arsenal it would definitely come down to pure attrition.
He has access to the last one, Andy can manipulate his soul and literally moved around in stopped time with his soul. Gojo cannot see his own soul which is required to heal damage to it, so Andy astral projecting just washes Gojo sadly.
Gojo doesn’t have infinite stamina, just a ton. Gojo also isn’t faster than Andy, also Gojo would out of stamina, or would literally never tag Andy because of scaling to Tops speed. Nice vid tho!
It’s either a stalemate or Andy wins, no other way it can go. Gojo has no way to defeat him because he can’t kill him and any way he might beat him without killing Andy has a counter to. The only question is whether or not Andy can get through infinity. If Andy can get through either with soul attacks or Gojo burning out, Andy wins. If Andy can’t find a way through, it’s a stalemate until Gojo dies of old age.
That's actually a pretty good question ngl, had to think about it for a while. Here's my take if you're interested. I don't actually think that mahoraga can adapt to Andy's undead, this is due to the fact that the way mahoraga's adaptation works is that he has to experience the phenomenon he is trying to adapt to, Andy's undead is a self targeting negator ability meaning there's nothing for mahoraga to experience so he can't adapt to undead. Furthermore if you take the description of mahoraga adaptation at a literal sense then that means that mahoraga has "ability to adapt to any and all phenomena". This is important because in undead unluck there's 2 types UMAs, phenomena, and conceptual ones, conceptual UMAs being the stronger of the two. Andy's undead negates the very concept of death, it isn't a phenomena that mahoraga can experience such as being burned or slashed or slowed down. This is why mahoraga can adapt to applications of gojos limitless like infinity and limitless void because they're a concept that's been manifested into reality as a phenomena, but he can't adapt to the technique itself that allows him to manifest the phenomena, as gojos limitless is literally the ability to manifest the concepts of infinity into reality. I think I kinda cooked ngl.
Andy regens wounds and undoes anything that could also lead to his dead in terms of injury. He cuts off and regens his own arms, fingers, etc, all of which aren't lethal. This is some serious misinformation. Like so bad im not sure how you managed to finish this video unironically
If you think about it, isnt the force of andys regen so powerful its unstopable? Couldnt he just keep regenerating at gojo until he goes into space? Mfers cant breath in space, theres still human limits gojo has that andy doesnt.
andy slams because of the ability to heal his soul and move his soul around and a soul you cant really touch it unless you have a ability to touch someones soul which gojo doesnt have and the jjk verse the only person that can compete with verses stronger then the mha verse is gojo
Gojo vs Andy wouldn’t end, but it wouldn’t even *start*, that’s the issue most of the comments don’t even acknowledge, I personally don’t think the two would fight, gojo would see with his six eyes that Andy is immortal and instead of fighting him, he befriends him and helps him try to die, and any wouldn’t try fighting Gojo sense he most likely can’t touch him, even if he could gojo could just teleport away from the attack.
Basically Andy can determine what counts as death for his ability. He will see getting hit with infinity as brain death, and his powers would reverse it.
Andy has literally experience hundreds of billions of years, so the amount of info from IV is puny next to that. Plus Andy doesn’t need his brain to act.
He can still turn his brain off which to me is funny as hell bc there goes a lot of powerful stuff that could've gotten him. But NOPE! "f**k you I'm turning my brain off!"
Even if Infinite void inst considered As something that could kill Andy, He still would Have survived since victhor lived billions of years And his mind was still fine.
Ignoring that Hollow Purple doesn’t erase anything, since it’s Imaginary Mass just like Yuki’s ability which also doesn’t erase anything Andy is basically conceptual immunity to all forms of death, including both conceptual laws and the laws of physics, as ordained by the higher order deity who created them. Even before his awakening, attempts to impose opposing concepts like “unrepair” would fail to work against him and Undeath is inherently superior to “Unruin” and such. After his awakening/in the Victor personality, Andy can completely overcome laws and concepts like “Spoil” with Undeath, because his own personal view of reality overwrites it so long as he believes his power can survive it. I’m not quite sure even something like King Hassan’s death concept imposition from fate would work, though theoretically if you had a strong enough soul nuke it could maybe do it
@@zold9896ah i see, haven't read the manga but I am watching the anime rn so a lot of what u said i haven't seen yet, my argument in the case where gojo actually did the 0 thing wouldve been that gojo could try smaller hollow purples to make the scale of the damage to injury level and just slowly take him out piece by piece but it aint that so my bad
Now question can't gojo just use rct to avoid the outcome of death due to age since he can refresh his brain constantly and also six eyes makes his ce consumption almost 0 and rct being able to even heal entire body parts and organs also yes rct won't work if someone somehow kills gojo with a headshot but the thing is andy can't do much simply due to infinity so yeah actually in this case no one wins
Andy wins this fight because of one single main reason. He has the ability to reshape his own very soul and attack with it. Gojos infinity was never stated to be able to Reflektor non physical thing aka ghosts, souls and so on. So he is able to hurt gojo while gojo Stil can't kill Andy in a 1 v 1. In general andy would never actualy lose a 1v1 against any kind of character but only win or put that fight into a stalmate until proofen otherwise in the Manga that he has some kind of counter to his ability.
@@Stephanthecuteblondie2567 Mahito couldnt touch him due to infinity not due to his soul itself. And either way in jjk you cant just keep it up forever
Andy already escaped something exponentially stronger than the prison realm He escaped UMA Seal, the embodied concept of trapping things, so he could prob easily escape the prison realm since it’s just a watered down UMA Seal.
aight ima say this once in UU souls are generally depicted as light and since gojo can be seen that means that either infinity cant effect photons or gojo choses not to stop them because you know, he needs to see, howeaver infinity only works on tangable things and since souls arent tangable an attack like soul road from andy would be able to kill gojo. alternately if soul attacks are interpreted as light beams they would still work because of relativity (cauze of special relativity time is stopped for photons resulting in 0 secconds passing for them to reach their destination and since infinity only slows objects down rather than freezing them technically any light based attack would bypass infinity) also egnoring this andy wins just by outlasting gojo since andys lifespan is infinite bc of undead
also in the case of infinite void, the information transmitted per seccond is a finite ammount and since andy has 460 bln years of memories it would be harmless to him
Soul stuff would bypass infinity, plus he can change his interpretation to pass infinity. I say that since he did it to bypass unavoided and untouchable And Gojo does get tired and age And Andy’s strength and durability is far above Gojo, speed also means Gojo just won’t tag him
or Gojo whips out any one of JJKs bye-bye forever boxes and just leaves Andy stuck forever. Andy wouldn't die, but as shown by UnChange, UnTruth, UnMove, and UnJustice in his own series, Andy has to plan around metaphysical containment/controller type abilities. I'll admit I'm not caught up on the manga, but unless Andy gets hacks to let him skip past reality, he would just be stuck forever, since as we all know, artifacts can last beyond the recycling of the universe.
First of all: there's just the prison realm and it was destroyed Second of all: victor taught Andy that Andy was thinking about his body incorrectly and after that Andy is able to escape any sort of containment.
Soo! From what I understand, Gojo wins every outcome till he's an elderly man with grandkids. Only then will Andy wail on his old wrinkly ass once he lost his vigour I dunno, this what I got lol
Yeah, but infinity isn't the only thing Gojo has. I dunno why, but people forget that Gojo can fight, even without infinity? For starters, he's an excellent fighter, straight-up manhandled sukuna in a 3V1, hand to hand combat he'll most likely treat him like Miguel in that one fight. Secondly, he has CE. CE grants an advantage that, unfortunately, Andy doesn't have. So, while Andy can try and get close and break through infinity, Gojo will black-flash him, obliterate him with a red, and spaghettify him with a blue. Hit him with a purple, too. Mf has too many options. Bascially? Beat his ass and have the bible of god watching. I love Andy, but I think playing the long-game is much more beneficial for him, depending on the arc, tho lol Though, I think Gojo'll have a harder and harsher fight against Victor. Thank you for commenting, and have a nice day.
@@defeatingasandwich_onlymak9967 You're talking that Gojo can fight too but then forget that so is Andy. I won't bring up Soul Chain that binds your soul so you cannot move cuz I want to give Gojo a chance. 1. Andy is also a strong as fighter with a FAR higher battle IQ than anyone in JJK. He can comes up a way to use his UnDead to negate his opponent ability on the fly(Which are all Rule negation) 2) Not having CE is better for Andy since Gojo won't be able to use his domain since Andy won't be able to be affected by it. Plus, none of the attack that you mentioned comes even close to scratch or fast enough to catch him. 3) Purple is useless too, it doesn't matter how many attack Gojo have, if it cannot affect Andy, it won't matter. 6) Basically? Gojo can't do shit. Andy is faster, stronger, more durable and has several things in his arsenal that can bypass infinity. 7) Victhor is way weaker than Current Andy. Gojo would have a better chance at winning fighting Victor than Andy.
@@defeatingasandwich_onlymak9967 He would count it as death so yeah UnDead can negate it. You need an attack that transcends concept, cuz I don't think even complete erasure of his soul would work.
Plus the fact that the way souls work in both verses are quite different in UU souls kind of just auto repair after a bit seemingly unconsciously as well as souls being unable to be permanently destroyed while in JJK it seems souls can ve
Would the guaranteed hit work on Andy? I know the arguement is that he would negate it out of self perception, but that kind of doesnt work with the idea of a "Guarenteed Hit."
@@weewoo_lux fair. While I have you, what do you think would happen if Gojo lunched a 0.2 second domain expansion *after* telling Andy that it wouldn't kill him?
@@mrobligatory.5234 If he doesn't know what exactly would be killing him in he domain his perception would not matter because he doesn't know what is is killing him. If the thing killing him had a symptom like brain damage which would already be part of his interpretation then the damage would be undone.
@@lewislaertes9525 UNLIMITED void is a win con for Andy because of CT burnout. He would ignore the sure hit by just using his soul to control his body instead of his brain. Refer to ch 191 of Undead.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 he controls his body with his soul by controlling his brain with his soul..ergo using his brain, but his brain cant send information to the rest of the body, the soul is telling the brain to but the brain cant. he wouldnt be able to move physically but his soul wouldd
@@jackaboynaylor9273 Yeah, but then again mahoraga can also regenerate and I doubt that Andy has the ability to cut mahoraga at a higher rate than malevolent shrine can before they adapt to their attacks and eventually adapt to Andy's undead.
@@JonDexler He doesn't need to match the rate of slashes with his way higher AP and his speed would realistically allow him to do that. Also, Mahoraga already three spins into his adaption from Sukuna's slashes when he survived the domain.
Okay so here is what I think I think that gojos de would make it so andys ability dose not work bc de makes it so the person it is used on can´t use ther ability and if dose not work then the de would kill Andy inf times bc its inf info getting to andys brain (englis is not my first languge)
That applies to cursed techniques that defend. Andy isn't using cursed energy or any kind of energy equivalent like Nen or Chakra. Andy just is Undead. So the DE isn't turning off Undead
It's been awhile guys, but I hope you enjoyed!
Be sure to comment below who takes this one.
Gojo, Or Andy?
@nmashie17I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter if it's a soul or not, nothing can get pass his infinity unless you have that an ability that can cut through space itself
Andy takes it.
Andy takes it by waiting for gojo to die of old age
Is it possible you could do a gojo vs amazo?
YOU BET I DID! I'll be mentioning abilities and events from the most recent chapters of Undead Unluck in this comment.
If whoever is reading this believes that Andy would be stunned by Gojo's domain even if he can't die from the sure-hit, it was shown in chapter 191 of Undead Unluck that Andy is able to control his body with his soul independent of his brain to counter a time lag on his mind and soul and because of this, he would be able to move regardless of his brain being overloaded. Gojo opening his domain is the worst move he could ever choose because, once his domain has ended, Gojo's CT would be on burnout, allowing Andy to touch him and thereby punish him for a prolonged instance. Now that I've explained how Andy could reach Gojo, I will scale Andy's stats in comparison to Gojo's to illustrate how badly Andy stomps.
Andy's AP:
During the same aforementioned chapter, Soul, the No. 1 superior rule, states 'Amazing. And you're not even my vessel. There's no denying it... this loop's strongest Negator... is you.' which scales him above every Negator due to the obvious and for even fighting and impressing the top rule while restraining all the others, with even th lowest of them Sick showing they can fight against the entire Union. This would put Andy's attack potency above Shen, Feng, Gina, and Tatiana, who all have City level calcs, Tatiana's being mountain, and he would also scale above Top's 509 TERATON LARGE COUNTRY calculation of splitting a cloud! Therefore, putting Andy's AP at least at large country level and likely continental.
Gojo's AP:
Gojo is blatantly No. 2 in the verse, at least at the moment, putting him above all but every calculation, like Ryu Ishigori's small town feat of vaporising a street and Uruame's town level ice structures. The most important calculations are a large town earthquake calc because Gojo did that feat himself and Sukuna's small city fire arrow due to it being one of the strongest attacks by a relative character. Therefore, putting Gojo's AP (and durability since he can take these attacks and uses the same energy to protect himself) at large town to small city.
Quick debunk on higher scaling for those who bring up the following:
1. A JJK character's AP and dura do not scale to their domain as a result of their domain using way more energy than anything in their arsenal.
2. Special grade sorcerers aren't country level because of Kenny's statement in chapter 203 due to it specifically being in regard to 'overthrowing' and not destruction of a country-sized area, hence the emphasis on Geto being one for making an army.
3. No one scales to Yuki"s large planetary black hole, a consequence of her using her life to make it, which in JJK makes one's attack far stronger, as shown with Mei Mei killing a special grade curse in a single hit using relatively normal crows. This should be especially true for Yuki, as her life of a special grade sorceress is a far higher sacrifice.
Andy's speed:
Even early on in his fight with Gina, Andy has been able to dodge lasers which we know are made of light, as that was the reason they were able to bypass Gina's barrier, explained by Andy. In chapter 187, Andy shoots his soul beams from the sun to the earth in a couple of panels which have been calculated at the lowest 16 times the speed of light to 99 times the speed of light!
Gojo's speed:
The highest way to arguably scale Gojo's speed is by saying Sukuna is a few times FTL for dodging electromagnetic waves and that he scales to his true form or even faster with blue, with his Heian form blitzing Kashimo, who keeps up with him.
In conclusion, Gojo is at best keeping up with Andy's speed as well as having his strongest attacks be casually eclipsed to the tier just above by Andy and at worst completely blitzed and destroyed.
If andy's neck is broken couldn't he just bite his tongue or cheek, spit it out, and then regenerate from that part of him?
Yep
He doesn’t even need to do that, a broken bone would still heal just fine, it was only dislocations that wouldn’t heal but that’s not an issue anymore with his newfound mastery over his soul.
He's done similar things in the manga already
he can somehow just grow it back, like how Billy did it twice
Andy has a rare win card. He can outlive most mortal characters because he can theoretically outlast them until they die from old age
Exactly, and This is why Andy’s so powerful against other fictional characters. Since, even if Andy fights a character with existence erasure, Andy could probably still beat them because he’d probably count being erased as dying
It also not outside his character to find weird and unique ways to win. So unless Gojo is holding someone Andy cares about as hostage or something he would have no issues letting Gojo age out of the fight.
Andy can literally survive a universal reset so yeah I think he wins
@@Heavy_Chaos37that really doesn’t do anything against gojo
@@lil3233 simply outlast gojo
Andy is like Deadpool of anime, but better.
Idk about better but agreeable
I still like Deadpool more
Deadpool tha' goat is still better
Funnier sure better as character well depends to what version we're talking stronger nah Deadpool CAN die. one Deadpool have kill like hundreds other Deadpool from across the multiverse
@@m4y013your joking if your saying deadpool is stronger
Gojo: domain expansion
Andy: tf is this supposed to do. I already saw all this.
gojo: w h a t
For people who don't understand,if a negator interprets something new to their own negation,that interpretation is gonna be added to their negation meaning its gonna be automatic.That means even if Andy can't think his Undead is still gonna work.
Since he can consider loss of thought as death, yep. Adds up
@@lopezroilans.8384 no he would regenerate
@@justsomebody5450 I did not refute the OP, I agreed with him.
Yep for example at the start of the series he would always regenerate from his head until he realized that he didn’t need it to live
there is a very high chance that he would see being paralyzed as a form of death since you cant do anything
I don't think so, after all, for 50 years (a bit before the start of the story) he was locked in the union QG, unable to do anything
He could move an talk to people
@@quevinquinvulafrancisco2653 True, however, when he was waiting in space, unable to do anything, just floating around, he remained conscious for billions of years until the Earth was created once again
not to mention that it was litterly shown in more recent chapters that he can move his fully paralyzed body via his own soul. The point of him seeing being paralyzed as a form of death in general would negate it to begin with😅
@@phantom9831 yea he was locked but that doesn't mean anything. It's not that he didn't consider it death, after all during that whole time he was just a head so he was literally physically dead, it's just that he couldn't regenerate because the box of air didn't leave enough space for his whole body.
Nah Andy wouldnt fall for that shit again. Gojo will never beat Andy. Andy will just continue trolling Gojo until Gojo dies of fucking old age,
The end.
Then again, Hollow purple exists, it is a existence - conceptual erasure, it is a contradiction and as Gojo once stated, he can bring contradictions into reality. Therefore, he can make someone dead, but not dead at the same time.
@ahmadadnan4773Never fucking cook again.
@@jin2821 That degree of wanking is insane. Hollow purple isn't conceptual erasure but instead just atomic erasure. Hollow purple couldn't even kill sukuna at 200%
@@jaffil4026 *120% but yh your point is valid
@@danknados the very first hollow purple (utahime and other guy buffed) was 200% the last one was 120
if the battle keep going Andy wins by default cuz he can just outlast. Gojo would either run out of curse energy and any kills him or die of exhaustion.even if they fought for a long time gojo would would just die of old age
Bro is really playing the long game here 😭
except the six eyes give gojo basically unlimited cursed energy
@@GoldKoi18 he still ages tho all gojo could hope to do is incapacitate andy or if being generous gojo can fight for years straight gojo would just die of old age eventually
@@GoldKoi18 He can still run out, it just takes a long, long, LONG drawn out fight (or someone with the same amount of power) for him to lose it
@@kingme1313 Yes andy wins I agree, I was just stating that it's hard if not impossible for gojo to run out of cursed energy.
I'll only add one thing into this convo and that's that Hollow Purple would not kill Andy
Ignoring the fact that Undead negates the concept of dying (people see it as just OP regen but thsts because he LITERALLY cannot die even if basically atomized)
Hollow Purple has been shown time and time again that it is NOT existence erasure; just durability negation
Hanami got hit but was able to heal it off, and Sukuna caught two of them back to back on the dome
So yeah, Andy still takes this lol
Hollow purple being durability decathlon is questionable at this point on the manga
@@shaine9968 I think it just pulverizes you on an atomic level.
@@erdenesaikhanamgalanhyiag8351still has to go through you CE tho, otherwise you are probably right
Hollow purple is just conceptual nothingness
Andy wins and it’s not close gojo has absolutely no win con and Andy will either outlast gojo or power null him with his soul
Andy can almost just move with his soul now so trying to paralyze him is pointless
The Six Eyes makes the amount of energy Gojo needs to use any attack to be infinitessimally close to zero
@@HyperLinkRedactedin his fight against sukuna he had to use rct to refill his ce , like of course he’s going to be busy doing that
@@mrjong-pildasong1468
He didn’t use RCT to refill his CE. His CE can last him for a nigh-infinite amount of time, he simply used RCT to heal his brain because of his Domain Expansion spam. And Gojo wouldn’t spam domain against Andy considering he only did so against Sukuna to prevent Mahoraga’s adaptation.
thats the thing its still using some energy the fight may go for a week or even months but he will run ut of cursed energy@@HyperLinkRedacted
Andy is literally immortal in every sense of the word and gojo has zero ways of killing him. Even if Andy can’t kill gojo either he will eventually win because gojo does of old age
Holy crap that's an andy stop tf? Duplication+ regen can just have him get de'd and finish gojo outside of in. Also dodging straight up lazers is far more solid than jjks infamous spped scaling where you have to take yoga classes to get to those stretches
teleporting isnt really a stretch, idk (or rather pulling space to HIM, because gojo literally moves the world to him as teleportation)
4:39 "Dodging lazer beams"
*Literally Dies*
Andy just uses his soul to attack Gojo through infinity.
mahito the master of soul cant hit gojo, I think that strategy wont work in this case
@@locar99Mahito has to touch you physically to manipulate your soul, Andy doesn't have that restriction. A few characters in undead unluck actually have greater soul manipulation feats than Mahito. For instance, Andy has a technique called soul parts bullet that he shot all the way from the Sun to the Earth, he basically could no-scope gojo from across the planet.
@@HeavyLineXII With his six eyes he could simply see it coming and protect itself from it since he can tweak his infinite to protect himself from that
@@Stephanthecuteblondie2567can limitless stop CE? If not then the bullet still hits
@whyexist626 I know nothing about andy, but from an anime watcher perspective on gojo, Infinity LITERALLY creates infinite space. Mahoraga could go through it because CE is self-negating on the exact same level. Andy can't do that, and he doesnt even have CE, so the infinite space is impossible for Andy to reach the end of.
The only thing i could think for andy to beat gojo is if he maybe use his waxing cresant moon sword that is an astral sword made from his soul an maybe it can bypass infinity because its and astral blade
It's still travels a distance, so it won't reach gojo.
@@hitogi06so did inverted spear but that is mostly on its ability though
@@Deflamed_Sphere well yeah inveted spear of heaven is just kryptonyte for cursed techniques so thats why it passed, because it canceled it not pass through it
@@Deflamed_Spherethe inverted spear got through infinity because it turns off any cursed technique it comes into contact with l
@@hitogi06 inverted spear disable infinity
4:39 "dodging laser beams"
If Andy can use his soul to move while the very concept of movement and avoiding were completely removed from him, then he absolutely could use his soul to get past Infinity. Souls are stated to trancend physical boundaries in Un Un after all
Plus, Gojo can’t use Infinity after a DE, so even ignoring Soul Manip, all Andy would have to do is wait for Gojo to use his Domain Expansion and then go for the kill
All JJK chatacters can jump Andy all at the same time and Andy will still win butt naked.
The second Gojo uses Domain Expansion, its over. If Andy sees being brain dead as a form of death, he recovers from Infinite Void and kills Gojo since he can't use infinity. RCT aint saving him from being severed.
The fight ends when Gojo invites Andy to join jj tech. Also how does Andy fair against Sukuna?
Pretty sure andy wins, hes unbelievably busted
@@weewoo_luxWhat’s the most interesting is Sukuna’s ability to cut souls vs Andy. I’m guessing Andy has soul regen or just straight up can’t be killed even if his soul is destroyed.
@@myusername3689Andy in the latest chapters is holding off the 10 most powerful rules in the sun with his soul. He has very high chance not dying to soul attackd
@@silverchariot1579how do you even kill him
@@TiinyToony That's the neat part. You can't
Andy is pretty much hakari without limitations so he can beat gojo by endurance
Ninguno tiene forma de matarse
This is a ridiculous lowball of Andy's abilities.
@@Naniwa_Tigerfr like you can kill hakari by aiming for his head
nuh uh, hakari is so weak in that scece
We are talking about the guy who the god who create a thing that create the universe just to be destriyed but the god himself CANT KILL HIM
IS A F*** BUG IN HES GAME XD
Andy cant really be paralyzed anymore either, as he can use his soul to move his body
I’ll end this debate with 1 sentence ANDY IS A FUCKING GOD
Just as a note on paralysis stuff... if it's from the neck down, Parts Bullet: Tongue can be used. and he can just regenerate from the tongue as well.
In all honesty, Gojo would probably get along with the Union, ESPECIALLY the current one in the Manga. I can see him chilling with everyone
I see the real wincon for Andy in a deathmatch between him and Gojo as forcing cursed technique burnout. If he can make him overuse his Domain enough that he can't even use his cursed technique, Andy has a shot at getting in a few hits. It's not MUCH of a chance but it's something.
I forgot he can regenerate the whole body.
Hello I was wondering if you could make a power scaling video for Andy because I see no making such a video
Uh let's not forget that even if he has his body paralyzed he could easily puppet his body with his soul and he can fight even while paralyzed lol
Andy has Soul manipulation stronger than Mahito and is on par with Master Rule No.1 "Soul" which is enough to tank and contain all 9 other Master rules for millions of years not to mention regen strong enough to survive the sun. Gojo ain't winning 😅.
Has to touch
@@jonathanhoward1499 No
@@jonathanhoward1499it's both physically and spiritually so no
@@jonathanhoward1499Mahito has to touch. Andy doesn’t.
UNBREAKABLE!? Sir it’s in the title. It’s unkillable
nah it's undead 🤣
Honestly, it feels like they'd get bored at some point and decide to get a drink.
So does anyone know where bro got "infinity has stopped spiritual attacks" from. On god i cant remember a single istance of that happening in the entire manga. Fight basically just comes down to how the soul interacts with infinity and thats only if we want andy to have a wincon that isnt gojo dieing of old age. Id like to say that andy could make gojo run out of stamina but assuming he cant hit him idk what would stop gojo from taking a nap right on the battlefield. Other than that i dont believe gojo has any win con other than sealing andy but thats also spotty at best since he has shown he is plenty capable of breaking out of insane seals.
yeah he busted out of unseal sealing so probably nothing that can trap him
There’s actually 2 endings:
1: They befriend each other because white haired besides
2: Gojo runs out of cursed energy, (it’s actually possible seen with him vs Sukuna, after gojo uses domain too much)
He doesnt run out of CE to use domain expansion, he could still keep using it along with sukuna its just that gojo destroyed his brain with ce and repaired it with rct, and he is inexperienced in doing this so it backfired and that part of his brain malfunctioned so he couldnt use domain, thats why he started bleeding. same for sukuna, he didnt run out of ce to use domain he just couldnt because gojo's UV gave him brain damage so he couldnt use domain.
so theres two endings: They befriend eachother
Gojo domain expansion's andy and since andy cant heal at an infinite rate (UV spews info from the universe at an infinite rate) and hasnt been shown to heal non physical attacks (attacking soul, or 'knowledge' or the brain, not physically.) and if andy accidentally 'dies' from this and heals back from it (somehow) gojo will just use domain expansion again and end it after 1 or 2 seconds so andy doesnt die and is just incapicated for a few centuries
@@zyofroma5718 Andy doesn't need his mind to fight
@@qeditz1547 his domain expansion doesn’t simply attack the mind, it attacks the physical brain, then mentally, then the soul 💀
@@zyofroma5718 thats not how it works lmfao, please stop tryna bs your way through this its an overload that the human brain simply cannot handle. Even then andy has hundreds of billions worth of info stored in his brain that is unleashed once he switches to viktor
@@zyofroma5718 Also did you hear yourself? The brain then mentally? Im gonna pretend you didn't say that for the sake of my braincells.
Bruh even the god of the undead unluck universe doesnt know how to deal with andy 😂
Undead is just a power that God made while drunk
can god even kill andy w reality warping or taking away undead, or is andy just straight up the strongest character in all of fiction now since he can take saitamas punches
I have a idea.
If we are considering incapacitating the opponent a win, gojo could do the 0.02 second domain he used on shibuya.
This will give Andy brain damage, but maybe it will be considered different from braindeath since that can be reversed naturally in a couple of months and he is still technically alive, so if doesn't work he can shorten his domain activation even more if necessary.
this way he won't heal instantly after leaving the domain, giving the win to gojo.
(Sorry for bad English, it's not my main language.)
issue is andy can process billions of years worth of memories, as shown with victor (his alter ego) having lived through 100 several billion year long loops
I doubt it, Andy's Undead works on the smallest cuts. Anything with the slightest chance to be fatal will be healed by Undead. The only way to really get around it is dislocations, stuff that wouldn't be fatal even under the slightest circumstances, overwhelming force that pin him down, or sealing him away through some technique, and all of these would be less likely to work where he is in the manga now.
@@LordTyphbro was able to escape the embodiment of seals with just his soul
That only happened because seal explicitly was not aware of souls
If there is some kind of seal that seals the body and the soul it would theoretically seal andy@@lopezroilans.8384
From a few comments i read, would it be just basically be gojo being sisyphus
W vid bro
Really appreciate it man!
We’re big fans of your work.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY yes sir ur videos are really well edited keep grinding and you’ll blow up fasho
@officialdivine.. Can’t deny that. Our editor really is a GOAT, couldn’t do it without him.
Thanks, for the hype though.
It means a lot for me and him.
Andy is amazing 🤔
My dude chilled on the sun
the first conclusion still ends in andy's win technically because andy didn't die and would be freed again after gojo's death (from old age) so in the end gojo would be dead and andy would be completely free with not injuries
run away wait until gojo dies of old age then come back and dance on his grave result:andy wins
So it depends if its just a little squabble or a death match
andy regenerates his fingers all the time tho? and losing his fingers is definitely not considered death
Blood loss, limb loss = considerably lethal
Would infinite void even work on Andy? He’s experienced everything and anything so it’s a stretch to say the overstimulation from infinite void would even work
Technically speaking, nobody can touch anything due to electromagnetic interaction.
I don't think dislocating his joints would do anything, because Andy could just fire off his tongue and regenerate from that
Andy already won this matchup on the series against unchange lmao. He either gets his blood through infinity and kills him, or he blinds gojo with blood, and can probably just use enough to suffocate him
preetty dumb infinity filters out blood
@@albertmensah7772 yes. So it forms a complete wall around Gojo and blinds him
I like the idea that even if time was frozen and gojo wouldn't age Andy might able to learn how to bypass infinity like sukuna and maho
it’s a stalemate if we don’t factor time into the equation, if we do, Andy wins, though it would take a long long time
If I remember right the only way to penetrate Gojo's defense is to use an attack that utilizes subatomic particles, doesn't require the traversal of space to make contact, or to cut space like Sukuna did. Since Andy doesn't have access to any of that as a part of his normal arsenal it would definitely come down to pure attrition.
He has access to the last one, Andy can manipulate his soul and literally moved around in stopped time with his soul. Gojo cannot see his own soul which is required to heal damage to it, so Andy astral projecting just washes Gojo sadly.
Wouldn't Gojo lose after using his domain and infinity goes on cooldown?
Finally we have a concept of an unstoppable force meeting an unmovable object (and no fellow Undead Unluck fans I'm not talking about Top or unmove)
I think it’s debatable that Andy’s soul can’t get through infinity.
Gojo doesn’t have infinite stamina, just a ton. Gojo also isn’t faster than Andy, also Gojo would out of stamina, or would literally never tag Andy because of scaling to Tops speed. Nice vid tho!
Great video man
i’m convinced almost any verse or character solos jjk 😭😭
Andy would win because Andy has shown to adapt to new techniques and to find out how the technique works
Yeah the start just use unbreakable and untouchable in the most not desirable way 😭
Andy just gotta fight for a lifetime
Well Gojo is not ageless Andy is.
It’s either a stalemate or Andy wins, no other way it can go. Gojo has no way to defeat him because he can’t kill him and any way he might beat him without killing Andy has a counter to. The only question is whether or not Andy can get through infinity. If Andy can get through either with soul attacks or Gojo burning out, Andy wins. If Andy can’t find a way through, it’s a stalemate until Gojo dies of old age.
How bout Andy vs Big Raga?
That's actually a pretty good question ngl, had to think about it for a while. Here's my take if you're interested.
I don't actually think that mahoraga can adapt to Andy's undead, this is due to the fact that the way mahoraga's adaptation works is that he has to experience the phenomenon he is trying to adapt to, Andy's undead is a self targeting negator ability meaning there's nothing for mahoraga to experience so he can't adapt to undead. Furthermore if you take the description of mahoraga adaptation at a literal sense then that means that mahoraga has "ability to adapt to any and all phenomena". This is important because in undead unluck there's 2 types UMAs, phenomena, and conceptual ones, conceptual UMAs being the stronger of the two. Andy's undead negates the very concept of death, it isn't a phenomena that mahoraga can experience such as being burned or slashed or slowed down. This is why mahoraga can adapt to applications of gojos limitless like infinity and limitless void because they're a concept that's been manifested into reality as a phenomena, but he can't adapt to the technique itself that allows him to manifest the phenomena, as gojos limitless is literally the ability to manifest the concepts of infinity into reality.
I think I kinda cooked ngl.
Maho get one shotted
I've Always imagine Hollow purple to Detroy matter directly instead of atomising as you described it.
That wouldn't do much either tho
undead vs unlimited
Andy regens wounds and undoes anything that could also lead to his dead in terms of injury. He cuts off and regens his own arms, fingers, etc, all of which aren't lethal. This is some serious misinformation. Like so bad im not sure how you managed to finish this video unironically
If you think about it, isnt the force of andys regen so powerful its unstopable? Couldnt he just keep regenerating at gojo until he goes into space? Mfers cant breath in space, theres still human limits gojo has that andy doesnt.
andy slams because of the ability to heal his soul and move his soul around and a soul you cant really touch it unless you have a ability to touch someones soul which gojo doesnt have and the jjk verse the only person that can compete with verses stronger then the mha verse is gojo
Gojo vs Andy wouldn’t end, but it wouldn’t even *start*, that’s the issue most of the comments don’t even acknowledge, I personally don’t think the two would fight, gojo would see with his six eyes that Andy is immortal and instead of fighting him, he befriends him and helps him try to die, and any wouldn’t try fighting Gojo sense he most likely can’t touch him, even if he could gojo could just teleport away from the attack.
Why Andy slams and its not close
Didnt get to watch full vid can someone tell me why gojo cant just give him brain damage with his domain
Basically Andy can determine what counts as death for his ability. He will see getting hit with infinity as brain death, and his powers would reverse it.
Also Andy has experienced the death and rebirth of his universe countless times.
Andy has literally experience hundreds of billions of years, so the amount of info from IV is puny next to that. Plus Andy doesn’t need his brain to act.
Can't Gojo put Andy inside of infinity instead of using infinity a a barier?
No???
no
Honestly unlimited void wouldn’t even turn him brain dead. He’s billions of years old so I doubt it would even faze him
He can still turn his brain off which to me is funny as hell bc there goes a lot of powerful stuff that could've gotten him. But NOPE! "f**k you I'm turning my brain off!"
Even if Infinite void inst considered As something that could kill Andy, He still would Have survived since victhor lived billions of years And his mind was still fine.
Andy could just tank gojos domain and then kill him during his CT burnout
Wouldn't Hollow purple work as it applies the concept of 0 meaning that if Andy was to get hit, he wouldn't be able to regenerate?
Ignoring that Hollow Purple doesn’t erase anything, since it’s Imaginary Mass just like Yuki’s ability which also doesn’t erase anything
Andy is basically conceptual immunity to all forms of death, including both conceptual laws and the laws of physics, as ordained by the higher order deity who created them. Even before his awakening, attempts to impose opposing concepts like “unrepair” would fail to work against him and Undeath is inherently superior to “Unruin” and such. After his awakening/in the Victor personality, Andy can completely overcome laws and concepts like “Spoil” with Undeath, because his own personal view of reality overwrites it so long as he believes his power can survive it.
I’m not quite sure even something like King Hassan’s death concept imposition from fate would work, though theoretically if you had a strong enough soul nuke it could maybe do it
@@zold9896virtual mass*
@@zold9896ah i see, haven't read the manga but I am watching the anime rn so a lot of what u said i haven't seen yet, my argument in the case where gojo actually did the 0 thing wouldve been that gojo could try smaller hollow purples to make the scale of the damage to injury level and just slowly take him out piece by piece but it aint that so my bad
Andy's ability isn't regenerating though. Andy's ability is simply not dying. Anything that could kill him, doesn't.
Its all fun and games for Andy until Kenjaku pulls up with his prison realm.
Andy got sealed in the manga and escaped that in a few chapters.
Andy is seal proof JSYK
He literally scaped out of an seal created by the concept of sealing itself
Now question can't gojo just use rct to avoid the outcome of death due to age since he can refresh his brain constantly and also six eyes makes his ce consumption almost 0 and rct being able to even heal entire body parts and organs also yes rct won't work if someone somehow kills gojo with a headshot but the thing is andy can't do much simply due to infinity so yeah actually in this case no one wins
Andy wins this fight because of one single main reason. He has the ability to reshape his own very soul and attack with it. Gojos infinity was never stated to be able to Reflektor non physical thing aka ghosts, souls and so on. So he is able to hurt gojo while gojo Stil can't kill Andy in a 1 v 1. In general andy would never actualy lose a 1v1 against any kind of character but only win or put that fight into a stalmate until proofen otherwise in the Manga that he has some kind of counter to his ability.
Gojo can protect his soul, Mahito couldn't touch his soul at all
@@Stephanthecuteblondie2567 Mahito couldnt touch him due to infinity not due to his soul itself. And either way in jjk you cant just keep it up forever
did you guys forget about the prison realm
Andy already escaped something exponentially stronger than the prison realm
He escaped UMA Seal, the embodied concept of trapping things, so he could prob easily escape the prison realm since it’s just a watered down UMA Seal.
Why do people forget that gojo has a limited amount of cursed energy, so andy wins
Six eyes reduce to a Minimum his cursed energy consume, so it's virtually infinite
@@Stephanthecuteblondie2567 its infinitesimally close to zero but its still finite
aight ima say this once in UU souls are generally depicted as light and since gojo can be seen that means that either infinity cant effect photons or gojo choses not to stop them because you know, he needs to see, howeaver infinity only works on tangable things and since souls arent tangable an attack like soul road from andy would be able to kill gojo. alternately if soul attacks are interpreted as light beams they would still work because of relativity (cauze of special relativity time is stopped for photons resulting in 0 secconds passing for them to reach their destination and since infinity only slows objects down rather than freezing them technically any light based attack would bypass infinity) also egnoring this andy wins just by outlasting gojo since andys lifespan is infinite bc of undead
also in the case of infinite void, the information transmitted per seccond is a finite ammount and since andy has 460 bln years of memories it would be harmless to him
Soul stuff would bypass infinity, plus he can change his interpretation to pass infinity. I say that since he did it to bypass unavoided and untouchable And Gojo does get tired and age
And Andy’s strength and durability is far above Gojo, speed also means Gojo just won’t tag him
If they are just duking it out i think its a tie.
But if they are in character gojo could probably just capture and seal him somewhere.
The problem is Manga Andy broke out of the UMA seal which is literally the concept of sealing itself
JJK seals dont compare
Naw you down played Andy experience to say gojo can technically win😂.
Andy wins low diff all though Andy can’t touch Gojo and Gojo can’t kill Andy he can just wait until Gojo dies from old age
or Gojo whips out any one of JJKs bye-bye forever boxes and just leaves Andy stuck forever. Andy wouldn't die, but as shown by UnChange, UnTruth, UnMove, and UnJustice in his own series, Andy has to plan around metaphysical containment/controller type abilities. I'll admit I'm not caught up on the manga, but unless Andy gets hacks to let him skip past reality, he would just be stuck forever, since as we all know, artifacts can last beyond the recycling of the universe.
First of all: there's just the prison realm and it was destroyed
Second of all: victor taught Andy that Andy was thinking about his body incorrectly and after that Andy is able to escape any sort of containment.
Andy can project his Soul and regen from it so he can’t be sealed. Even Seal, the very concept of sealing, couldn’t keep him contained.
You need to catch up with the manga then my guy
Could Mahoraga adapt to Andy’s undeath ability?
No, Maho adapts on things done to him
Soo! From what I understand, Gojo wins every outcome till he's an elderly man with grandkids. Only then will Andy wail on his old wrinkly ass once he lost his vigour
I dunno, this what I got lol
Also by winning, I don't mean he kills him, I just mean neutralise or knock him out
@@defeatingasandwich_onlymak9967i dont see gojo living till hes billion of years old andy is canonicaly hundreds of billions of years old
Andy can bypass Infinity with Soul
Yeah, but infinity isn't the only thing Gojo has.
I dunno why, but people forget that Gojo can fight, even without infinity?
For starters, he's an excellent fighter, straight-up manhandled sukuna in a 3V1, hand to hand combat he'll most likely treat him like Miguel in that one fight.
Secondly, he has CE. CE grants an advantage that, unfortunately, Andy doesn't have. So, while Andy can try and get close and break through infinity, Gojo will black-flash him, obliterate him with a red, and spaghettify him with a blue.
Hit him with a purple, too. Mf has too many options.
Bascially? Beat his ass and have the bible of god watching.
I love Andy, but I think playing the long-game is much more beneficial for him, depending on the arc, tho lol
Though, I think Gojo'll have a harder and harsher fight against Victor.
Thank you for commenting, and have a nice day.
@@defeatingasandwich_onlymak9967 You're talking that Gojo can fight too but then forget that so is Andy. I won't bring up Soul Chain that binds your soul so you cannot move cuz I want to give Gojo a chance.
1. Andy is also a strong as fighter with a FAR higher battle IQ than anyone in JJK. He can comes up a way to use his UnDead to negate his opponent ability on the fly(Which are all Rule negation)
2) Not having CE is better for Andy since Gojo won't be able to use his domain since Andy won't be able to be affected by it. Plus, none of the attack that you mentioned comes even close to scratch or fast enough to catch him.
3) Purple is useless too, it doesn't matter how many attack Gojo have, if it cannot affect Andy, it won't matter.
6) Basically? Gojo can't do shit. Andy is faster, stronger, more durable and has several things in his arsenal that can bypass infinity.
7) Victhor is way weaker than Current Andy. Gojo would have a better chance at winning fighting Victor than Andy.
let me tell you smth if someone is immortal and has no body how is he alive gojo can make his body dissapear with hollow purple
can he win against yogiri though
Wait WAIT WAIT!
Chainsaw devil, the one that erases concepts from existance.. VS Andy, who wins??
Chainsawman is too slow to catch Andy. There's also the fact that you just need to destroy his heart to kill him.
Yeah, but how would Andy deal with concept erasion?
Would he count it as a death?
Also chainsaw devil, not chainsaw man, denji easily dies lol
@@defeatingasandwich_onlymak9967 He would count it as death so yeah UnDead can negate it. You need an attack that transcends concept, cuz I don't think even complete erasure of his soul would work.
What would happen if gojo just uses a hollow purple? It is the power of 0
Andy would survive since he would view that as a form of death
andy can fight with his soul in the manga, andy wins 100%
Jump Assemble
But can’t gojo use black flash on andy because black flash directly harms the soul
Black flash doesn’t directly harm the soul, if it did then Todo’s black flash on Mahito would’ve damaged him but it didn’t
no, and even if it did Andy can heal pieces of his soul
Plus the fact that the way souls work in both verses are quite different in UU souls kind of just auto repair after a bit seemingly unconsciously as well as souls being unable to be permanently destroyed while in JJK it seems souls can ve
Altenative title both voice actor fight self since both have same ability :v
Would the guaranteed hit work on Andy? I know the arguement is that he would negate it out of self perception, but that kind of doesnt work with the idea of a "Guarenteed Hit."
@@weewoo_lux fair. While I have you, what do you think would happen if Gojo lunched a 0.2 second domain expansion *after* telling Andy that it wouldn't kill him?
@@mrobligatory.5234 If he doesn't know what exactly would be killing him in he domain his perception would not matter because he doesn't know what is is killing him. If the thing killing him had a symptom like brain damage which would already be part of his interpretation then the damage would be undone.
Infinite void is a win con, if he thinks so much he cant do anything thats a win
You didn’t watch the video
@@player2605 you watched your father leave
@@lewislaertes9525damn
Did your father leave you as well lol
@@lewislaertes9525 UNLIMITED void is a win con for Andy because of CT burnout. He would ignore the sure hit by just using his soul to control his body instead of his brain.
Refer to ch 191 of Undead.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 he controls his body with his soul by controlling his brain with his soul..ergo using his brain, but his brain cant send information to the rest of the body, the soul is telling the brain to but the brain cant. he wouldnt be able to move physically but his soul wouldd
Wait wait wait Gojo is unlimited, like his negator ability lol
The real question is should be if, Meguna can beat Andy with mahoraga.
Yeah if he ain't serious.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 What do you mean by that?
@@JonDexler If Andy Isn't really trying to win until Maho fully adapts then he loses
@@jackaboynaylor9273 Yeah, but then again mahoraga can also regenerate and I doubt that Andy has the ability to cut mahoraga at a higher rate than malevolent shrine can before they adapt to their attacks and eventually adapt to Andy's undead.
@@JonDexler He doesn't need to match the rate of slashes with his way higher AP and his speed would realistically allow him to do that. Also, Mahoraga already three spins into his adaption from Sukuna's slashes when he survived the domain.
Okay so here is what I think I think that gojos de would make it so andys ability dose not work bc de makes it so the person it is used on can´t use ther ability and if dose not work then the de would kill Andy inf times bc its inf info getting to andys brain (englis is not my first languge)
And feel free to correct me or come upp with your ideas
@@williamfriberg918 It will eventually come back like Gojo's red when he fought Sukuna and as long as he makes contact with Gojo he'll be fine.
That applies to cursed techniques that defend. Andy isn't using cursed energy or any kind of energy equivalent like Nen or Chakra. Andy just is Undead. So the DE isn't turning off Undead
Actually not to be that guy but and can hurt him with his soul