How to Choose Your 3800 Cams | Behind the Builds | ZZPerformance
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
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The first episode for our new series, Behind the Builds, is here. Ryan highlights what cams you should consider for your 3800 cars. Stay tuned for the next episode!
Products Mentioned:
NATURALLY ASPIRATED
1. GT-1| 00:30 | zzperformance....
2. GT-2 | 00:49 | zzperformance....
SUPERCHARGED
1. VS | 02:36 | zzperformance....
2. XP | 03:37 | zzperformance....
3. NIC | 04:38 | zzperformance....
4. XPZ | 05:49 | zzperformance....
TURBOCHARGED
2. Stattama ST2 | 06:57 | zzperformance....
3. Stattama ST4 | 07:04 | zzperformance....
4. Stattama ST5 | 07:24 | zzperformance....
Boy am I glad these guys didn't disappear after the 3800 became past-tense
Would be cool if you guys sold the gt2 cam and everything it requires as a package
My point. Cause searching for everything individually hard. I still don't understand the preload etc with lifters and springs
Did you guys go through with buying the stuff 😅?
Waiting for the gt1 cam to come back in stock 😢
Hello Guys from Australia 🙃
While this question is not about cams but what driving them.
I have a Aussie 3800 with a Rollmaster single row chain and it doesn't have a chain dampener fitted, with the single row chain should it be fitted or run the same way as the double row chain and leave it off?
Hey Ryan D! I have a Natrally Aspirated 3800 series 2 and I want to upgrade to Supercharge. Will the supercharge option works for the Naturally Aspirated 3800 series 2? I'm hoping to upgrade with the double roller timming chain, intercooler system, ZXP cam, tubular header and etc. You didn't mention if the ZXP cam will pass admission which I intend to used with aluminum head as well. Please replay and let me know. Thanks Ryan D.
I used the gt1 cam for my 98 gp gt build. Ran a 14.3 guarter mile. Best thing in the world was beating gtp's and then telling them I'm only a n/a setup. I did the cam at 180k miles. Compression at 180psi all cylinders. Only worn part was timing chain dampener about half way worn. Put the ssm90 kit on it at 205k miles. Never had any issues with reliability. That car raised 3 kids and did every errand and road trip for years. Got the car to a 13.21@103 and then a bad storm hit and flooded my property and filled the transmission with water. Car had 250k miles on it! That was back in 2008! Glad to see Zzp is finally getting there name out there.
Would love to see what a typical dyno chart would look like for each cam so you can see where the peaks are and what the gains are at each rpm
Bummer the 3800 series tuning scene didn't take off like I figured it should. Such a great engine. I guess it's not a 2JZ and you can't make 10,000 hp with the 3800 so maybe that's the reason.
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It's so easy to get good power out of them though.
It's because they mostly came in FWD cars that were limited by a pretty crappy transmission for making power
@@tuningwithstyx I fucking hate the 4t65e but I love the Grand Prixs. I wanna build a 300+ horsepower one sometime soon but that's the only part that scares me. What's dumb is they had a stronger FWD transmissions, the 4t80e, I believe the Northstar V8s got them but oddly the 5.3 Wbody cars never did.
Too little rwd support, the stupid 60 degree pattern makes it difficult to get any good transmission behind them. The LS pretty much destroyed every other gm platform. Some of us love the little v6. It responds amazingly well to a turbo. If you want 600hp, it's very doable. If GM had only used it for a rwd turbo gn remake, it would be even more legendary than the original. But, any fan of gm knows they make consistently stupid decisions about what we really want.
Do yall still make the HV3 runner?
We currently do not have the HV3 on the website, we are revising it for a new version, hopefully out within the year.
Fbody build here so many questions awnsered alot more on which parts to order with the gt-1 cam
All of the suggested parts to go along with the cam are listed on the product page for the GT-1 cam
Why did you discontinue the gt1? We were going to drop one in my son's camaro and ended up going with a vs cam instead.
Got a fiero can't wait to launch like a rocket seems pretty straight forward brother had a built gtp fastest thing I've been in did 160 or more couldn't really tell anymore the needle was buried and felt like we were floating
I have a Pontiac boneville super charger Bonneville ssei 97.. can I use a 3.5 pulley??also I have a zz38 cam
so where does the st2 cam make peak power on the rev range compared to the st4 and st5?
Ik u said to do 136 comp valve springs but I just got 105s because I couldn’t buy a doubler roller was sold out so I got a single and 105s maybe I’ll just stick to slightly over 6k and try not to rev it all the way fully then😅 with my nic cam build
just curious why did you guys discontinue the ST1 cam?
I wonder if ZZP would special order the ST1 cam.
Where are you guys getting the aluminum heads from for the 3800.
Good video. Gonna be upgrading from an ST2 to an ST5 cam in my L67 once it's in my s10🤙.
Nice. I am building a 3800 for my 1980 grand prix. Doing something a bit different for it.
chevy1985k20 how did it go?
Any updates on youre build
How'd your swap go? I am looking to do a 3800 swap in my 96 S10.
Where can i find a EV3 for my N/A 3800 for sale?
I have a 96 camaro 3.8 manual 79k on the dot! In 2020 100% factory
Ya said hv3 insert for our fbodies but it says in yall description not for f bodies. Correct me if I'm wrong but the series ii that is in my 2002 f body is an l36 with a 9.4:1 comp ratio
F-body has a different intake manifold.
@@christophero1969 thats what I'm getting at.... but he says in the video its for the f body. Lol 😆 🤣
I own a 04’ Monte Carlo SS (fully stocked) not sure which one I should go for? & how aggressive is the NIC cam 1-10?
NIC is aggressive and not for daily drivers. XPZ or intense stage 2 are about as big a cam you want for a street car.
same idk what to pick since i already have a full straight pipe
so will the VS cam and 1.65 rockers gain more than 1.9 rockers ?
Only thing, I wish there was a ZZPerformance in 🇨🇦
is it unsafe to run an xp cam without a tune? ima a 96 guy so it's not easy finding someone who can tune
I know this is for the V6 3800 which I have but I was wondering something else also. I also have a 2013 Jetta 2.5 5 cyl. I was wondering if their were any ways to actually get more horsepower out of it without having to extensively mod it? I know their aren’t many aftermarket parts out of it except for exhaust and maybe a K&N filter. Any thoughts?
sell it, get an older mkiv jetta 1.8, get a 2.0L turbo off of one of the 2.0 cars. new injectors and a tune. 330 whp
Yup sell the POS VW and buy something good that already makes power.
So with the NIC cam, I’ve got the 1.9 rockers picked out and they come with the pedestal, bolts, and pushrods, also double roller timing chain, thicker front cover gasket, comp cam lifters... what else do I need to complete everything?
He said that no 1.9 for any non stock cam
He says use 1.65 rockers at like 3 mins in
@@tweeeder For any cam that has too much lift, a custom cam can be spec'd with a lower lift and use a greater rocker ratio, to keep the very heavy valve-lifters(cam-lobe-followers) under control at higher RPM'S, by reducing their traveling distance in the lifter bores and decreasing valve-float. The valve springs will last longer by not having to push the lifters back down as hard. Many exotic car manufacturers used this technique in the late 60's thru 1993 or so.
I have a 99 v6 Firebird with like 170k on the dash but I rebuilt the entire engine at 150k miles
So for the gt1 cam what changes do I need to really make?
Im gonna get the xpz cam when I build my new engine
Great info 👍🏼
Anybody have issue tuning with the N.I.C. cam? I've heard trying to get it to idle correctly is very difficult with that cam. Looking to do a supercharged cam build. But don't want to dump money into something that runs so so
Why would you go with a 1.65 rocker? Stock is 1.7. You're decreasing valve lift
Stock is 1.6 in 3800s. LS engines have 1.7 stock, if that's what you're thinking of
So the xps won't pass emissions even on e85?
So, with my bolt ons, I will be running the VS cam, 90 lb valve springs, steel retainers, double roller timing chain, ARP head studs, a re-tuned ECU for 91 octane, good to go.
Do you guys have any performance mods for a 2015 ats 3.6
Unfortunately the 3.6 didn't get much aftermarket support. However, all suspension mods will still work for you, so check those out!
@@ZZPerformanceChannel it has magnetic ride control. I was looking fot like cam n heads pkg? Throttle body n tune!!!??? No biggie, going after a ats v here soon! Thanks
Can't wait for the nic cam
Made a great video, Mike Tyson’s son.
10/10
Young talent good to see good job keep it up
Who would actually do a cam swap on a NA 3800? 😂 Just do a blower swap and gain twice as much power!
goodluck doing that with a stock trans especially if it has 150k miles or more
@@vpnjeo7099 a stock trans can handle stock or close to stock GTP power just fine. 🙄
I tend to agree, but for those wanting just a little more and the fun of tuning what they have it's worthwhile... especially in the camaro platform where the blower doesn't fit. It's pretty easy to get the v6 to run with a stock lt1. Anyone seriously wanting to make power goes turbo anyway.
Cool vid man
You guys are beautiful .. cannot find anything online
Just buy an LS don’t waste your money working on a V6
Gxps are hard af to find in my area so I got a gt2 for now that I’m gonna just do tiny na on
@@exiled_tuscani7660 how it go?
@@Dennis-gy7xr it blew up after I sold it 😂 idk what the new owner did but that 3800 got a hole in the block
Haha
PLEASE DO 4200 PARTS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
These engines are cheap and it'd allow me to spend more money your way for parts
Yoooooo, how can we get a ZZP shop up here in 🇨🇦? I know the people would go crazy, moddin w-bodies, Caddies, Lnf, Lsj, all of the platforms you offer. Your prices are super killer, stuff would fly off the shelves, people would be getting engines built to the teeth. Oh yeah, can you make bigger ZZPERFORMANCE stickers, the same sixe as the ZZP sticker? I would slap one right on my blacked out fender for decals
The XP cam comes alive at 6300rpm???