I am a lifelong Cowboy fan and I remember the birth of the 1970s Cowboys-Redskins rivalry. It took place in September of 1971 at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas because Texas Stadium was not ready to start hosting Cowboy home games yet. Washington had not beaten Dallas since 1967. I thought that the Cowboys were going to have an easy victory that day. But there was a new Washingon Redskins head coach named George Allen in 1971 who brought with him a whole new atmosphere , a new attitude, a new energy and enthusiasm, a new spirit, a mixture of old and new players and a history of beating the Dallas Cowboys when he was the head coach of the Los Angeles Rams from 1966 to 1970. It was a close game, scoring wise. Washington beat Dallas 20-16. But right from the start of the game Washington dominated my shocked, bewildered and demoralized Cowboys. The Cowboys and their fans, including me were stunned !!!!! How did this happen !! ?? That game really shook up and rocked the 1971 Dallas Cowboys to the core. But Dallas got their much savored revenge against the hometown Washington Reskins in RFK stadium later on that year. The Washington Redskins who played for George Allen were mean, tough as nails, hard nosed, agile, hostile, mobile, fast, strong, big, bad ass old school football players who helped make the 1970s Cowboys-Redskins rivalry so much fun, so exciting and so compelling to watch. What made this rivalry so intense was the differences between the Cowboys and the Redskins. Tom Landry vs George Allen, Roger Staubach vs Billy Kilmer and Sonny Jurgensen, Texas Stadium vs RFK Stadium, and the list goes on and on. So many great players from both teams. The Redskins and Cowboys of the 1970s gave us all so many great moments and exciting memories !! I may be a Cowboy fan with an extreme dislike for Washington, but I always had an immense amount of respect for those Redskins of old from the George Allen era from 1971 through 1977.
Great stuff!! Allen brought over about half of his old Rams defense via trade. That rivalry was as good as it gets. There are other great ones which may be on par, but none surpasses, in my opinion. Thanks for commenting!
Yeah, that rivalry was one of the best things that Allen did for the Redskins. Rivalries are good for the league. Cowboys-Redskins. Steelers-Raiders. Chiefs-Raiders. And of course Packers-Bears. Today, rivalries seem tepid.
Billy Kilmer was tough as nails! No doubt. I don't know that I've seen a better thrown ball than what Sonny Jurgensen regularly let fly. Sometimes under immense pressure too. Tight spiral and he could put it on the money. Just brilliant.
I maintain that Jurgy is the best pure passer (pre-'80) and really, of all-time. Vince Lombardi said he was the best QB that he'd ever seen, so that's really saying something.
Jurgenson was in my opinion the best arm ever. Cowboys fan here but watching him throw was like artwork. Lombardi would’ve had them in the sub in a year.
Excellent and PERFECT point Mark! Absolutely you nailed a big reason why the Redskins were always competitive and in the run for the top spot in the NFC East each year.
The 70’s QB’s were warriors. They had to hang in there. Then get buried after every pass attempt. Entirely different position back then. These highlights are awesome
@@CoreyT127 Absolutely.I lost all interest in sports over the last few years.Since Muhammad Ali came on the scene,there seems to be a competition on who can be the most obnoxious.Ali copied his bravado from Gorgeous George,who might have been the biggest heel in professional wrestling during his heyday.
Thinking of Washington and 1974, that Thanksgiving game at Texas Stadium(still miss that stadium) comes to mind. The Skins had a 16-3 lead in the 3rd Qtr. And they even knocked out Staubach for the game. With Morton in the WFL, in comes Clint Longley. Clint brings the Cowboys back in a terrific rally that included a 50 yard bomb to Drew Pearson the ice the Cowboys win. 1974 was the only season of that decade where the Cowboys did not make the playoffs. But taking down Washington on Turkey Day was one of the brightest moments of that down season.
Longley was not noted for studying too hard. Blaine Nye, Stanford grad, described Clint's Thanksgiving heroics as "the triumph of the uncluttered mind." Gold.... pure gold...
@@markgardner9460 if I have a favorite Washington v Dallas Turkey day game. It would be the 1978 match-up. Earlier that season the Redskins beat the Cowboys 9-5 on MNF in Washington. Dallas was humbled on National TV. Even President Carter was at the game for Washington. Thanksgiving was pay-back time. 37-10 when it was over. the 1974 game was the Longley game. The 1978 one was the Scott Laidlaw game. The Dallas FB ran for 122 yards on just 16 carries, 2 TD's and a big 59 yard rumble through the Washington defense. One of the pivotal moments that made America's Team my team. How Bout Them Cowboys.
@@jstube36 I’m a Washington fan. That second game an absolute blowout. I remember it well as we were near Boston for the only time in my life so far… …also subscribed to you - probably have 15-20 of them on this game we love so much. No need for a completion; I am happy when there is collaboration!
I loved when the Raiders had all 3 QB's. What got me interested in football, what made me notice...was Stablers helmet, the facemask with 1 bar in the middle. I thought that was the coolest thing I'd ever seen. I was 8.
Really good film, as always, including Raiderettes. I appreciated George Allen, and his QBs, and Roy Jefferson. I'm biased but I'll give the edge to the Raiders - possibly because of The Flanker, Freddie B, and that reception by Mother Hubbard.
Great work Mark! Terrific footage of Joey T wearing the two bar mask. Never saw that before. I was 7 in 1974 and was confused about Kilmer playing more than Jurgy. I had heard how great Sonny was, but too young to realize he was near the end. I don’t remember Blanda playing anything but kicker, but knew at one time he had been a prolific passer. Strange how these HOF coaches struggled to pick a starter. A lot of talent, but all at different stages of their careers.
Thank you! I found it interesting that Joe T. was nearing being past his prime at age 29 before he was able to wrestle the starting gig away from waaay past his prime 39 year old Kilmer.
@@markgardner9460 Oh yeah, Strock would be part of another troika in 1983, this time with David Woodley, who had led them to a Super Bowl appearance the previous season, and a rookie by the name of Dan Marino.
Great content again ! Man, I loved those old Redskin and Raider teams. I have a great book for you to read. George Allen's autobiography "The Future is Now !" I'm a life long Bengals fan...but I always had some secondary favorites...the first of those were Allen's great Rams teams of the late 60's - early 70's...I still don't understand why they fired him...anyway, in the book it talks of this guys devotion to coaching. Apparently, during the season he seldom went home, he'd sleep in his office and he ate only ice cream and peanut butter so that chewing wouldn't distract him from football ! Anyway, when he took the Redskins job I became a fan ! They were a MESS when Allen took over and he traded TONS of younger players and draft picks ( he DESPISED draft picks ) for "old vets" many that were cast - offs, many of those cast offs ( Myron Pottios, Jack Pardee, Dyron Talbert and a few others ) from his old Rams team...so many that some people started calling the Redskins the Ramskins ! He made so many trades he got into trouble with the league office because it turned out that one season he traded the same draft pick to 2 different teams, LOL. As far as those QB's aside from their love of the "Night - Life" Jurgenson and Kilmer couldn't be more different. Jurgenson threw one of the prettiest spirals EVER...while Kilmer's passes looked more like something the Robertson family would be shooting at from a blind in Louisiana swamp land ! You had some clips of Rod Sherman...don't know if you knew this but he passed just last week. And the clip of "Turkey" Joe Jones....a player I will never forget because ( bear in mind I'm a Bengals fan saying this ) he made to me probably the DIRTIEST play in history. When he was with the Browns, they were playing the Steelers...he got a clear shot at Bradshaw, grabbed him at the waist from the front while facing him, jumped into the air, did a 180 degree spin and used the entire weight of his body to PLANT Bradshaw headfirst into the ground. I don't know how long Bradshaw was out...but Jones could have easily broken his neck !
Thank you and thanks for providing all of these tasty tidbits. Looks like I've got another book to buy. Oh well, there are worse things to spend money on. I read where Allen actually traded multiple draft picks twice. He couldn't keep track of things cuz he traded so much! Unreal.
I remember Allen saying, "I don't know who this Cotton Speyrer is, but I know that he's not going to play for me." He drafted him in the 2nd round of the 1971 draft and didn't even know anything about him! He packed him and the Redskins '73 #1 pick for WR Roy Jefferson.
@@markgardner9460 LMAO ! That's probably in the book...I loved him because he was a defensive coach...and he not only expected his D to shut their opponent down but also score. I believe he set a goal every year of 8 - 10 Defensive / Special Teams scores !And some of the guys he got that other teams deemed "washed up"...LB Dave Robinson, DE Verlon Biggs, DT's Ron McDole and Diron Talbert, LB's Jack Pardee and Myron Pottios, they were kinda the East Coast version of the Raiders.
So Cool to see sonny and kilmer Play So well Together .... Watch As They come off the field in key moments and hug or shake hands ...........,... We all know the game today is faster ...... guys are bigger and stronger ..... But The hitting Back Then ........ Was Brutal .... Guys Paid The Price ........A lot Of Respect For The Players Back then .......... MOSES DENSON ...... CAN T FORGET HIM ........ THANKKS A TON SPORTSSTATSANDGAB ........
Moses Denson had military service from '64 through '66, played for Montreal in the CFL for 3 years from '70 through '72 and missed the entire '73 season due to a knee injury. He rushed 159 times for the Redskins in two years, but didn't rush for any touchdowns, strangely. Here's to Moses Denson!!!
Thanks brother I enjoyed the journey into a great NFL era. I would take the Skins, Sonny & Billy were gamers and fun to watch. However the sneaky Snake is probably the best (not by much) qb of the bunch. Shout to Landry's goofy qb system, trotting Morton and Staubach out/in every offensive snap. You know it occurred to me, I don't think that there was any love lost between Curly and The Dodger - Morton and Staubach...they never overtly showed it but there was some hard feelings. Unitas, Morrell & was it Domres....oh well shootin' from the hip...Thanks brother you're appreciated. -bradd-
I really don't know which teams' QB's that I'd pick, but I know that I would pick Jurgensen as the #1 QB out of the bunch. Thanks for offering your take. I hadn't heard too much about Staubach and Morton not getting along. I know that they were both extremely competitive, but that's about it in terms of how they related to eachother.
@@markgardner9460 You cannot go wrong with Jergenson. He made a decent color commentator after he hung up the cleats. Stabler had a comparative voice to Truman Capote, hence he was not in demand in media work. Yeah I guess saying Morton and Staubach didn't get on well may be a reach but I heard Morton side step comments about Rodger. Staubach was too classy to give anybody the business. Thanks.
I really liked Jurgensen as an announcer; I thought he was fine. Snake was so so for me, which is probably why he didn't last too long. Don't get me wrong, he wasn't bad - there were others like Staubach who just seemed nervous and not at ease at all. Snake was cool that way.
@@markgardner9460 Let me remind you Mark, Stabler was in the Broncs division so I have a natural love - hate. I saw allot of Snake. Thanks brother, appreciated.
The divisional playoff game between the Redskins and the Rams was a defensive battle but the Redskins gave up 5 turnovers. It was the Over the Hill Gangs last hurrah. Still they had nothing to be ashamed about because the Rams were a good young team with a strong defense. They only lost 10-14 to the Vikes in the Championship game.
I really enjoyed those defensive battle playoff games. I don't need to see a lot of points being scored to enjoy a game. Crisp blocking and tackling is what I like the most which used to be the essence of the game.
@@markgardner9460 Me too. When I was younger I loved offense but now I understand the craft of defense and I enjoy and appreciate watching a good defensive team. I think Vince Lombardi said the essence of football will always be the running game. Or something like that.
0:53 Yes seeing a perfectly executed power sweep with great blocking,or conversely a perfectly timed blitz that ruins a play is always a thing of beauty! Blocking and tackling are sorely missed now!
My favorite video of yours to date. I’m a diehard Redskins fan and game 7 of the 1974 season was when the light turned on for me for football. George Allen was a very good coach but he was awful to Sonny. Thankfully he and Billy were buddies and they still are- for Sonny’s birthday last year they took a picture of Sonny, Billy, and that youngster Jim Hart only 79 😂. My dad last year moved to Wilmington NC where Sonny is from. Did you know he and Roman Gabriel went to the same high school? Sonny is my dad’s all time favorite player…
@@markgardner9460 of course! I have a lot of good feelings about the 1974 Redskins - including when Deacon Jones kicked an extra point in the 42-0 game against the Bears. Though the Joe Gibbs teams are my absolute favorites - what success and they weren’t even the best team at the time - 49ers get that crown..
I have a photo of Deacon kicking that p.a.t. I really admired the job that RB Wilbur Jackson did in '80 when Riggo sat out. Jackson was getting along in age at 29, but he really filled the bill.
The Raiders easily had the better quarterback trio in the 70s. Two Hall of Famers, one led them to a super bowl win that decade, and they won more games.
There were times that if the back-up did not play well, the Head Coach would replace him and put in the starter again. Today, player's feelings would be hurt, so that doesn't happen.
Paul Bixler, director of player personnel with the Cleveland Browns in the 70s, had this to say about Sonny: "If you play man-to-man, he'll beat you. If you play zone, he'll completely pick you apart."
How about this one, from long-time Cowboy pro-bowler Mel Renfro: "When it comes down to pure passers, there's no question Sonny was the best". @@markgardner9460
Jurgensen is who I recognize as the greatest pure passer ever. Vince Lombardi said that he was the greatest QB that he ever saw. He had not only a cannon for an arm, but he had tremendous touch and accuracy. Almost every one of his passes seemed to be a perfect spiral, too.
In 74 I was 14 years old and a Cowboy fan in a Redskin home. Believe me I remember just how good these QB were. When the Cowboys played the Skins my Dad and brothers would be in one room watching the game while I would be in another room watching it. Thank God we had 2 TV's back then.
We had 2 tv's, too, back then. Both were black and white with one of them the size of a postage stamp. It had better reception than the bigger one that had perpetual grainy reception.
@@markgardner9460 George drank milk shakes . Sonny drank whiskey. Sonny loved airing it out and was fantastic at audibles. George hated that. He loved ball control and defense
Imagine if Sonny had a running game to compliment his passing. Defenses knew to mainly defend the pass. Also, if he had a consistently good offensive line. A lot of his passes came off his back foot. Just think if he had consistent coaching throughout his career. His contemporaries like Unitas and Starr thrived without so many coaching changes. They'd still be chasing his records!
Except for the first couple of games by 1967 rookie Ray McDonald, the running game didn't arrive in D.C. until Vince Lombardi came to town and drafted Larry Brown and also brought in Charley Harraway from Cleveland in 1969.
Great video man; tough to pick between the two groups, but I'd give Washington a slight edge as they have the most talented QB among the 6 QB's in Jurgensen. One has to wonder if Sonny had played in that Super Bowl against the Dolphins instead of Kilmer, would Washington have had a better chance to win?
Thank you and that's a great question. I think that a healthy Jurgy wins the game for Washington because the only way to beat Miami was to hopefully get on top early and pass first (ideally on 1st downs) because Miami's defense was really built to stop the run. I think Jurgy would have mixed up his plays masterfully and that the outcome would have been different.
They started off well, but then those goofy back to back ties (New Orleans...really? That should not have happened) made it seem like it wasn't gonna be a good season after all.
Actually George Allen lost to the Vikings twice in 1969 when he coached the Rams though the second was a playoff loss. They lost in week 12 at LA 20-13. Then on 12/27/69 they lost the divisional playoff game in Minnesota 23-20. I like the Snake. The Raiders were cool in the 70s.
That might have been why I was such a big Redskins fan, while favoring the Raiders as my #1 team. Both had three great quarterbacks at the same time in the early 1970’s. Or possibly the spelling of their names was so similar??
That's wild, Lamonica, Stabler and Blanda lose to future Raider Super Bowl Champ Jim Plunkett. I'm a Dodger fan and sometimes I think the Dodgers got Rick Monday not only because he was a great bat but because they had to get rid of him as a Dodger killer and because of the heroic flag incident in 1976 at Dodger Stadium. The Dodgers with Monday's bat beat the Expos to get to the World Series in 1981 and win and the Raiders took Plunkett off the market and won 2 Super Bowls with him. Hey, I like the analogy 🤣
11:08 Probably would've been good to mention that this last game was a playoff game. Honorable mention to the 1974 Rams who had John Hadl, James Harris and Ron Jaworski at QB.
Sonny Jurgensen has no business in the NFL hall of fame. His record as a starting QB was 69-71-7. He and Joe Namath both had losing records as starting QBs but are in the HOF anyway.
5X passing yardage leader. Hall of Fame All-1960's Team. You've got to be kidding. Football is a team sport and dismissing someone's hall of fame credentials simply because of a losing record is nonsensical.
@@markgardner9460What is more important than winning games for a QB? Should Vinny Testaverde be in the hall? 46,000 yards! 2 pro bowls! What about Matt Ryan and Carson Palmer? Drew Bledsoe?
Vinny never lead the NFL in passing yards during his 21 year career. Matt Ryan hasn't done it once in 15 years. Palmer didn't do it once in 14 years. Bledsoe did it once in 14 years. See the difference? Can't blame a QB for not winning games when his defense leaks like a sieve year after year. If you value winning percentage only, then some very dubious name would crawl into the picture - names that legitimately have no reason being seriously considered for Hall of Fame consideration. More than just winning percentage needs to be considered.
Crazy to think that in just 5 years Wells had 2 seasons with over 1,000 yards AND over 20 yards per reception (and came within 65 yards of achieving that feat for a third time).
Yes it is. Have you checked out my video featuring Warren Wells? It's located in my playlist in the Special Features section, if not. Thanks for commenting!
When a little league football player plays dirty, it's called unsportsmanlike conduct. When an NFL player plays dirty, he is called a fierce competitor.
Tough way for Jurgensen (9) to end his career with that depressing interception by Isiah Robertson (58) for the clinching TD in the Divisional Playoff Game.
The heat was on him and he pulled the trigger. Hard to blame him when he's trying to make a play and it's late in the game, but you're right - tough way to exit his career.
The AFL was noted for it's wide open game in the '60's, but the integration of the two leagues resulted in the NFL being primarily a rushing league until 1978.
@@markgardner9460 I was referring to the Washington offense and main reason rushing went up is because of moving of the hash marks to the middle of the field. Before George Allen the Washington offense was more open. Allen was more defensive oriented and didn’t like Sonny Jurgensen he preferred Billy Kilmer.
Oh, I see. Pardon me. Yes, Allen preferred the strategy of having an iron clad defensive combined with a ball control offense for the most part. I'm always amazed that Allen's collegiate rah-rah coaching style worked so well in the pro ranks.
@@markgardner9460 Two of them, in fact. One was a feature they produced in 1999 for "NFL Films Presents", using some of the same "Lost Treasures" footage, and there was a shorter one they did on him sometime back in the '80s.
Kilmer was a running QB while Hadl was an All-American at Running Back while a Junior at Kansas, as well as an All-American at Quarterback during his senior season.
@@markgardner9460 Don't even get me started on how the league itself has become a uniform violation, ever since they started letting teams wear monochrome uniforms in the late '90s and then once they let Nike do all of the league's uniforms.
Nick was a sharpie. I remember that he did a year or two of NFL color commentary, too. Of course he was on HBO's Inside the NFL with Len Dawson seemingly forever.
In those days it was a given that you needed two startable QBs to even start a season. I think of Unitas and Morral or Griese and Morral or Dawson and Livingston or Staubach and Morton...they all won SBs like that. Didnt Pittaburgh have Layne, Dawson and Morral all at once in the late 50s?
No kidding. I think they got Moses Denson from the CFL. Hard to believe that even George Allen couldn't properly motivate Duane Thomas for an extended period of time.
While there was other footage prior to the Taylor footage, it was meant to convey that the quarterback's pass was right on the money and that even a future hall of famer can make a mistake.
I like the mix of good and bad plays tbh. I don't like when content creators make everything a highlight reel, or the opposite where they only show bad plays when talking about a losing team.
Players make mistakes from time to time - I think creators should feature what really happened, both good and bad. My next video that I'm working on will have both aspects.
Some Paul Warfield if you can sir. and i am betting you can, fine job, chuckles included old time football, my dad was a big Jurgenson fan, was his QB in table top APBA
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I am a lifelong Cowboy fan and I remember the birth of the 1970s Cowboys-Redskins rivalry. It took place in September of 1971 at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas because Texas Stadium was not ready to start hosting Cowboy home games yet. Washington had not beaten Dallas since 1967. I thought that the Cowboys were going to have an easy victory that day. But there was a new Washingon Redskins head coach named George Allen in 1971 who brought with him a whole new atmosphere , a new attitude, a new energy and enthusiasm, a new spirit, a mixture of old and new players and a history of beating the Dallas Cowboys when he was the head coach of the Los Angeles Rams from 1966 to 1970. It was a close game, scoring wise. Washington beat Dallas 20-16. But right from the start of the game Washington dominated my shocked, bewildered and demoralized Cowboys. The Cowboys and their fans, including me were stunned !!!!! How did this happen !! ?? That game really shook up and rocked the 1971 Dallas Cowboys to the core. But Dallas got their much savored revenge against the hometown Washington Reskins in RFK stadium later on that year. The Washington Redskins who played for George Allen were mean, tough as nails, hard nosed, agile, hostile, mobile, fast, strong, big, bad ass old school football players who helped make the 1970s Cowboys-Redskins rivalry so much fun, so exciting and so compelling to watch. What made this rivalry so intense was the differences between the Cowboys and the Redskins. Tom Landry vs George Allen, Roger Staubach vs Billy Kilmer and Sonny Jurgensen, Texas Stadium vs RFK Stadium, and the list goes on and on. So many great players from both teams. The Redskins and Cowboys of the 1970s gave us all so many great moments and exciting memories !! I may be a Cowboy fan with an extreme dislike for Washington, but I always had an immense amount of respect for those Redskins of old from the George Allen era from 1971 through 1977.
Great stuff!! Allen brought over about half of his old Rams defense via trade. That rivalry was as good as it gets. There are other great ones which may be on par, but none surpasses, in my opinion. Thanks for commenting!
Yeah, that rivalry was one of the best things that Allen did for the Redskins. Rivalries are good for the league. Cowboys-Redskins. Steelers-Raiders. Chiefs-Raiders. And of course Packers-Bears. Today, rivalries seem tepid.
Yep greatest rivalry ever, fond memories.
The Skins Cowboys rivalry of the early 70s like the Steelers Raiders of the same era was must see TV.
When he left the Rams he took several players w/ him to Washington, Pardee & Diron Talbert were a couple.
Billy Kilmer was tough as nails! No doubt. I don't know that I've seen a better thrown ball than what Sonny Jurgensen regularly let fly. Sometimes under immense pressure too. Tight spiral and he could put it on the money. Just brilliant.
I maintain that Jurgy is the best pure passer (pre-'80) and really, of all-time. Vince Lombardi said he was the best QB that he'd ever seen, so that's really saying something.
@@markgardner9460 It would have been interesting to see how the Skins would have done had Lombardi lived longer. Sonny thrived under Lombardi.
I bet he would have won another Super Bowl
Jurgenson was in my opinion the best arm ever. Cowboys fan here but watching him throw was like artwork. Lombardi would’ve had them in the sub in a year.
What was Allen's beef with Sonny?
Both these guys, especially Kilmer, we're tough ,real football players. Got hit, a lot, and hung in there as competitors, without ever complaining.
Kilmer was so gutsy. Teammates pick up on that toughness quality and I think that it elevates their play.
Excellent and PERFECT point Mark! Absolutely you nailed a big reason why the Redskins were always competitive and in the run for the top spot in the NFC East each year.
@@markgardner9460 Exactly they knew that Kilmer would leave everything on the field, win or lose!
Once again, I love the vintage videos. I miss how cool the uniforms were and how violent the game was
Love the line by Jurgensen " I don't throw wiih my stomach?
Seriously, what should anyone care what a QB looks like? The big question should be: Can he throw accurately?
these guys were easy to love, I loved this team
The 70’s QB’s were warriors. They had to hang in there. Then get buried after every pass attempt. Entirely different position back then. These highlights are awesome
I'm glad that you enjoyed the video. QB's used to hit the deck frequently, but now they rarely get hit hard.
Back then,it still had aspects of a game.Greed on both players & owners have ruined sports with their greed.
It was like a totally different game!
@@CoreyT127 Absolutely.I lost all interest in sports over the last few years.Since Muhammad Ali came on the scene,there seems to be a competition on who can be the most obnoxious.Ali copied his bravado from Gorgeous George,who might have been the biggest heel in professional wrestling during his heyday.
Exactly just overall greed in our society is ruining everything!
@@CoreyT127 I’m old but I like the way the game was back then
Thinking of Washington and 1974, that Thanksgiving game at Texas Stadium(still miss that stadium) comes to mind. The Skins had a 16-3 lead in the 3rd Qtr. And they even knocked out Staubach for the game. With Morton in the WFL, in comes Clint Longley. Clint brings the Cowboys back in a terrific rally that included a 50 yard bomb to Drew Pearson the ice the Cowboys win. 1974 was the only season of that decade where the Cowboys did not make the playoffs. But taking down Washington on Turkey Day was one of the brightest moments of that down season.
I remember that game well. I was the only family member watching the game. They totally missed out.
Longley was not noted for studying too hard. Blaine Nye, Stanford grad, described Clint's Thanksgiving heroics as "the triumph of the uncluttered mind." Gold.... pure gold...
@@markgardner9460 if I have a favorite Washington v Dallas Turkey day game. It would be the 1978 match-up. Earlier that season the Redskins beat the Cowboys 9-5 on MNF in Washington. Dallas was humbled on National TV. Even President Carter was at the game for Washington. Thanksgiving was pay-back time. 37-10 when it was over. the 1974 game was the Longley game. The 1978 one was the Scott Laidlaw game. The Dallas FB ran for 122 yards on just 16 carries, 2 TD's and a big 59 yard rumble through the Washington defense. One of the pivotal moments that made America's Team my team. How Bout Them Cowboys.
@@jstube36 I’m a Washington fan. That second game an absolute blowout. I remember it well as we were near Boston for the only time in my life so far…
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@@yeildo1492great line!
Coach Allen had elements on the Redskins that were still there when Joe Gibbs took over as head coach and won Super Bowls .
Competitive drive and intensity come to mind.
Lamonica, Blanda, and Stabler were the 3 best QBs on one team in the 70s … You nailed it!
They meaning guys worked Edith called me Blanda
I loved the silver and black and Banda
I loved when the Raiders had all 3 QB's. What got me interested in football, what made me notice...was Stablers helmet, the facemask with 1 bar in the middle. I thought that was the coolest thing I'd ever seen. I was 8.
Really good film, as always, including Raiderettes. I appreciated George Allen, and his QBs, and Roy Jefferson. I'm biased but I'll give the edge to the Raiders - possibly because of The Flanker, Freddie B, and that reception by Mother Hubbard.
Thanks for your choice - I'm still deciding! Jurgensen is the best, but the Raiders had the better overall talent, I think.
Like the funky cover of Yes’ Roundabout during the Raiders/Oilers segment!
Yes to Yes!!
Agreed Yes was a good group!
And I LOVE the Redskins' uniforms from this era, along with their darker burgundy and darker gold uniforms from the '60s.
To me, those uniforms just exude style. I like the uniqueness of the color scheme.
Great work Mark! Terrific footage of Joey T wearing the two bar mask. Never saw that before. I was 7 in 1974 and was confused about Kilmer playing more than Jurgy. I had heard how great Sonny was, but too young to realize he was near the end. I don’t remember Blanda playing anything but kicker, but knew at one time he had been a prolific passer. Strange how these HOF coaches struggled to pick a starter. A lot of talent, but all at different stages of their careers.
Thank you! I found it interesting that Joe T. was nearing being past his prime at age 29 before he was able to wrestle the starting gig away from waaay past his prime 39 year old Kilmer.
Great stuff as usual Mark. So many recognizable names on those old Redskins teams. On another note, RIP Fulton Kuykendall, aka Captain Crazy.
Thank you! I had not heard that about Fulton - that's too bad. Thanks for letting us know.
May Fulton Kuykendall rest in peace. May his family and friends be healed and comforted.
16:57 love the smack talk by Biletnikoff lol
For a thin guy with no muscles, he didn't take any "stuff"
Great video. Another quarterback trio from the '70s was Miami's trio of Bob Griese, Earl Morrall, and Don Strock.
Great call. 1975 and 1976. They just missed my cut. Earl and Don were always ready at a moment's notice.
@@markgardner9460 Oh yeah, Strock would be part of another troika in 1983, this time with David Woodley, who had led them to a Super Bowl appearance the previous season, and a rookie by the name of Dan Marino.
Strock started only 22 games in 15 years. He made a lot of money as a quality back-up.
Strock’s play was fantastic against Chargers in playoff game. but it’s 80’s.
RIP David Woodley you left us way too soon 🙏
Great content again ! Man, I loved those old Redskin and Raider teams. I have a great book for you to read. George Allen's autobiography "The Future is Now !" I'm a life long Bengals fan...but I always had some secondary favorites...the first of those were Allen's great Rams teams of the late 60's - early 70's...I still don't understand why they fired him...anyway, in the book it talks of this guys devotion to coaching. Apparently, during the season he seldom went home, he'd sleep in his office and he ate only ice cream and peanut butter so that chewing wouldn't distract him from football ! Anyway, when he took the Redskins job I became a fan ! They were a MESS when Allen took over and he traded TONS of younger players and draft picks ( he DESPISED draft picks ) for "old vets" many that were cast - offs, many of those cast offs ( Myron Pottios, Jack Pardee, Dyron Talbert and a few others ) from his old Rams team...so many that some people started calling the Redskins the Ramskins ! He made so many trades he got into trouble with the league office because it turned out that one season he traded the same draft pick to 2 different teams, LOL.
As far as those QB's aside from their love of the "Night - Life" Jurgenson and Kilmer couldn't be more different. Jurgenson threw one of the prettiest spirals EVER...while Kilmer's passes looked more like something the Robertson family would be shooting at from a blind in Louisiana swamp land ! You had some clips of Rod Sherman...don't know if you knew this but he passed just last week. And the clip of "Turkey" Joe Jones....a player I will never forget because ( bear in mind I'm a Bengals fan saying this ) he made to me probably the DIRTIEST play in history. When he was with the Browns, they were playing the Steelers...he got a clear shot at Bradshaw, grabbed him at the waist from the front while facing him, jumped into the air, did a 180 degree spin and used the entire weight of his body to PLANT Bradshaw headfirst into the ground. I don't know how long Bradshaw was out...but Jones could have easily broken his neck !
Thank you and thanks for providing all of these tasty tidbits. Looks like I've got another book to buy. Oh well, there are worse things to spend money on. I read where Allen actually traded multiple draft picks twice. He couldn't keep track of things cuz he traded so much! Unreal.
@@markgardner9460 yes George Allen love those old. He figured if he was going to get beat it wasn't going to be by mental mistakes
I remember Allen saying, "I don't know who this Cotton Speyrer is, but I know that he's not going to play for me." He drafted him in the 2nd round of the 1971 draft and didn't even know anything about him! He packed him and the Redskins '73 #1 pick for WR Roy Jefferson.
@@markgardner9460 LMAO ! That's probably in the book...I loved him because he was a defensive coach...and he not only expected his D to shut their opponent down but also score. I believe he set a goal every year of 8 - 10 Defensive / Special Teams scores !And some of the guys he got that other teams deemed "washed up"...LB Dave Robinson, DE Verlon Biggs, DT's Ron McDole and Diron Talbert, LB's Jack Pardee and Myron Pottios, they were kinda the East Coast version of the Raiders.
Allen was a totally unique coach!
Never heard of Drew Buie until I saw his stamp on that NFL Sunoco Stamp Book. Remember those?
I sure do! I had a few of those stamps and remember the tv commercials about them.
I actually still have the 1972 Sunoco Stamp book, probably half full, buried away somewhere. So cool to see somebody else remember those!
Loved watching Billy Kilmer. During the course of a game, the more you beat him up, the better he played.
His helmet would get knocked off and it just seemed to make him all the more competitive.
So Cool to see sonny and kilmer Play So well Together .... Watch As They come off the field in key moments and hug or shake hands ...........,...
We all know the game today is faster ...... guys are bigger and stronger ..... But The hitting Back Then ........ Was Brutal .... Guys Paid The Price ........A lot Of Respect For The Players Back then ..........
MOSES DENSON ...... CAN T FORGET HIM ........ THANKKS A TON SPORTSSTATSANDGAB ........
Moses Denson had military service from '64 through '66, played for Montreal in the CFL for 3 years from '70 through '72 and missed the entire '73 season due to a knee injury. He rushed 159 times for the Redskins in two years, but didn't rush for any touchdowns, strangely. Here's to Moses Denson!!!
Thanks brother I enjoyed the journey into a great NFL era. I would take the Skins, Sonny & Billy were gamers and fun to watch. However the sneaky Snake is probably the best (not by much) qb of the bunch. Shout to Landry's goofy qb system, trotting Morton and Staubach out/in every offensive snap. You know it occurred to me, I don't think that there was any love lost between Curly and The Dodger - Morton and Staubach...they never overtly showed it but there was some hard feelings. Unitas, Morrell & was it Domres....oh well shootin' from the hip...Thanks brother you're appreciated. -bradd-
I really don't know which teams' QB's that I'd pick, but I know that I would pick Jurgensen as the #1 QB out of the bunch. Thanks for offering your take. I hadn't heard too much about Staubach and Morton not getting along. I know that they were both extremely competitive, but that's about it in terms of how they related to eachother.
@@markgardner9460 You cannot go wrong with Jergenson. He made a decent color commentator after he hung up the cleats. Stabler had a comparative voice to Truman Capote, hence he was not in demand in media work. Yeah I guess saying Morton and Staubach didn't get on well may be a reach but I heard Morton side step comments about Rodger. Staubach was too classy to give anybody the business. Thanks.
I really liked Jurgensen as an announcer; I thought he was fine. Snake was so so for me, which is probably why he didn't last too long. Don't get me wrong, he wasn't bad - there were others like Staubach who just seemed nervous and not at ease at all. Snake was cool that way.
@@markgardner9460 Let me remind you Mark, Stabler was in the Broncs division so I have a natural love - hate. I saw allot of Snake. Thanks brother, appreciated.
Playing with a single bar facemask is pretty much saying "f my face" lol
Good thing they had good medical and dental plans back then. Ballsy to wear a single bar.
The divisional playoff game between the Redskins and the Rams was a defensive battle but the Redskins gave up 5 turnovers. It was the Over the Hill Gangs last hurrah.
Still they had nothing to be ashamed about because the Rams were a good young team with a strong defense. They only lost 10-14 to the Vikes in the Championship game.
I really enjoyed those defensive battle playoff games. I don't need to see a lot of points being scored to enjoy a game. Crisp blocking and tackling is what I like the most which used to be the essence of the game.
@@markgardner9460 Me too. When I was younger I loved offense but now I understand the craft of defense and I enjoy and appreciate watching a good defensive team.
I think Vince Lombardi said the essence of football will always be the running game. Or something like that.
Same here about old-school defensive struggles.
0:53 Yes seeing a perfectly executed power sweep with great blocking,or conversely a perfectly timed blitz that ruins a play is always a thing of beauty! Blocking and tackling are sorely missed now!
My favorite video of yours to date. I’m a diehard Redskins fan and game 7 of the 1974 season was when the light turned on for me for football.
George Allen was a very good coach but he was awful to Sonny. Thankfully he and Billy were buddies and they still are- for Sonny’s birthday last year they took a picture of Sonny, Billy, and that youngster Jim Hart only 79 😂.
My dad last year moved to Wilmington NC where Sonny is from. Did you know he and Roman Gabriel went to the same high school? Sonny is my dad’s all time favorite player…
Awesome! I had forgotten about the NC connection with Jurgey and Gabe...two of my favorite all-time QB's. Thanks for sharing your memories!
@@markgardner9460 of course! I have a lot of good feelings about the 1974 Redskins - including when Deacon Jones kicked an extra point in the 42-0 game against the Bears.
Though the Joe Gibbs teams are my absolute favorites - what success and they weren’t even the best team at the time - 49ers get that crown..
I have a photo of Deacon kicking that p.a.t. I really admired the job that RB Wilbur Jackson did in '80 when Riggo sat out. Jackson was getting along in age at 29, but he really filled the bill.
Joe “Turkey” Jones , when players had nicknames , Whiskey , The Toe , Snake a great entertaining era.
Now they just use the players initials and call it a nickname.
The Raiders easily had the better quarterback trio in the 70s. Two Hall of Famers, one led them to a super bowl win that decade, and they won more games.
Thanks for your input! Appreciate it.
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Thank you very much! I'm glad that you enjoyed it!
You are right Mark, it was common for teams to play their backup quarterback
There were times that if the back-up did not play well, the Head Coach would replace him and put in the starter again. Today, player's feelings would be hurt, so that doesn't happen.
Paul Bixler, director of player personnel with the Cleveland Browns in the 70s, had this to say about Sonny: "If you play man-to-man, he'll beat you. If you play zone, he'll completely pick you apart."
Love that quote!
How about this one, from long-time Cowboy pro-bowler Mel Renfro: "When it comes down to pure passers, there's no question Sonny was the best". @@markgardner9460
Jurgensen is who I recognize as the greatest pure passer ever. Vince Lombardi said that he was the greatest QB that he ever saw. He had not only a cannon for an arm, but he had tremendous touch and accuracy. Almost every one of his passes seemed to be a perfect spiral, too.
In 74 I was 14 years old and a Cowboy fan in a Redskin home. Believe me I remember just how good these QB were. When the Cowboys played the Skins my Dad and brothers would be in one room watching the game while I would be in another room watching it. Thank God we had 2 TV's back then.
We had 2 tv's, too, back then. Both were black and white with one of them the size of a postage stamp. It had better reception than the bigger one that had perpetual grainy reception.
Hail to the over the hill gang..
I can still hear "Hail to the Redskins!" And the 'Hogettes!" They weren't my favorite team but RFK was rocking when the Skins were playing well!
Pretty cool Charger!
2:06 Damn, Tommy Casanova came in like a bolt of lightning on that blitz. Wish he had played longer than he did
It was a jail break Cinci blitzed him from the Safety position on a delay after shooting Linebackers. Tommy was a good player for sure.
@@markgardner9460Excellent player wow he timed that perfectly !
I don't know if any other quarterback could throw a ball as pretty as Sonny! Only a few come close.
Great effort by Larry Brown to score at 5;00!
What in the world was the official looking at 6;22? Brown wasn't close to getting 2 feet down!
Love love this ! Huge Redskins fan ! Sonny was the best but Allen hated him!
I had heard that about Allen. What didn't he like about Sonny?
@@markgardner9460 George drank milk shakes . Sonny drank whiskey. Sonny loved airing it out and was fantastic at audibles. George hated that. He loved ball
control and defense
I wish the current nfl would let d linemen wear 60s and 80s numbers.for some odd reason think its cool
I like it, too!!
A lot better than letting linemen wear numbers 1-40.
Oh, man! Don't get me started with that.
Imagine if Sonny had a running game to compliment his passing. Defenses knew to mainly defend the pass. Also, if he had a consistently good offensive line. A lot of his passes came off his back foot. Just think if he had consistent coaching throughout his career. His contemporaries like Unitas and Starr thrived without so many coaching changes. They'd still be chasing his records!
Except for the first couple of games by 1967 rookie Ray McDonald, the running game didn't arrive in D.C. until Vince Lombardi came to town and drafted Larry Brown and also brought in Charley Harraway from Cleveland in 1969.
Like previously mentioned, imagine Sonny Jurgensen with Lombardi for 5-6 years! I suspect that the NFC East might have been much different!
It would have lengthened the career and improved the productivity of RB Larry Brown, too, as a side benefit!
Harraway was a terrific blocker! He was a fine receiver, too.
@@markgardner9460 Brown and Harraway were a good tandem!
Awesome
Great video man; tough to pick between the two groups, but I'd give Washington a slight edge as they have the most talented QB among the 6 QB's in Jurgensen. One has to wonder if Sonny had played in that Super Bowl against the Dolphins instead of Kilmer, would Washington have had a better chance to win?
Thank you and that's a great question. I think that a healthy Jurgy wins the game for Washington because the only way to beat Miami was to hopefully get on top early and pass first (ideally on 1st downs) because Miami's defense was really built to stop the run. I think Jurgy would have mixed up his plays masterfully and that the outcome would have been different.
Hi Marc, I’m gonna throw in my white sunny Jurgenson jersey for this video
Hey! Yeah, it'll offset my burgundy jersey shown in the video.
1971 was a tough year for a Raider fan! I remember it well!
They started off well, but then those goofy back to back ties (New Orleans...really? That should not have happened) made it seem like it wasn't gonna be a good season after all.
@@markgardner9460 😩
I just got home.
This looks very interesting!
I hope that you find it as such.
@@markgardner9460 it is one of your better efforts!
@@markgardner9460I think it's one of your best videos! Very creative!
Actually George Allen lost to the Vikings twice in 1969 when he coached the Rams though the second was a playoff loss. They lost in week 12 at LA 20-13. Then on 12/27/69 they lost the divisional playoff game in Minnesota 23-20.
I like the Snake. The Raiders were cool in the 70s.
Yes, you are correct. I meant to say regular season games, but did not. Thank you for pointing that out.
That might have been why I was such a big Redskins fan, while favoring the Raiders as my #1 team.
Both had three great quarterbacks at the same time in the early 1970’s.
Or possibly the spelling of their names was so similar??
That's wild, Lamonica, Stabler and Blanda lose to future Raider Super Bowl Champ Jim Plunkett. I'm a Dodger fan and sometimes I think the Dodgers got Rick Monday not only because he was a great bat but because they had to get rid of him as a Dodger killer and because of the heroic flag incident in 1976 at Dodger Stadium. The Dodgers with Monday's bat beat the Expos to get to the World Series in 1981 and win and the Raiders took Plunkett off the market and won 2 Super Bowls with him. Hey, I like the analogy 🤣
I remember that incredible Rick Monday homer like it was yesterday! Thank you for bringing up that great memory.
11:08 Probably would've been good to mention that this last game was a playoff game.
Honorable mention to the 1974 Rams who had John Hadl, James Harris and Ron Jaworski at QB.
Yep, Hadl was only a Rams player for five games in 1974, but they still had quality QB's, even though there wasn't a hall of famer in the bunch.
There are two more reasons why I liked the Raiders. Banasak and Hubbard in the backfield at the same time.
Talk about 2 really tough, battle-for-every-inch Running Backs, those guys were it.
Sonny Jurgensen has no business in the NFL hall of fame.
His record as a starting QB was 69-71-7.
He and Joe Namath both had losing records as starting QBs but are in the HOF anyway.
5X passing yardage leader. Hall of Fame All-1960's Team. You've got to be kidding. Football is a team sport and dismissing someone's hall of fame credentials simply because of a losing record is nonsensical.
@@markgardner9460What is more important than winning games for a QB?
Should Vinny Testaverde be in the hall? 46,000 yards! 2 pro bowls!
What about Matt Ryan and Carson Palmer? Drew Bledsoe?
Vinny never lead the NFL in passing yards during his 21 year career. Matt Ryan hasn't done it once in 15 years. Palmer didn't do it once in 14 years. Bledsoe did it once in 14 years. See the difference?
Can't blame a QB for not winning games when his defense leaks like a sieve year after year. If you value winning percentage only, then some very dubious name would crawl into the picture - names that legitimately have no reason being seriously considered for Hall of Fame consideration. More than just winning percentage needs to be considered.
@@markgardner9460 It is a meaningless statistic if it does not make you a winning team.
Then the QB's selected for the All-Pro and Pro Bowl teams should only go to the ones that play on the most winning teams? I don't think so.
Best of the 70's,,, Terry Bradshaw, end of conversation
I hear ya - this video is about a team having 3 top QB's on their roster at one time.
The 71 Raiders seemed to adjust OK to suddenly not having Warren Wells. Biletnikoff had a remarkable 61 receptions, or 35% of the teams completions.
Yes they did - great point. Drafting Mike Siani seemed to aid in that transitioning, then of course Cliff Branch blossomed shortly thereafter.
Crazy to think that in just 5 years Wells had 2 seasons with over 1,000 yards AND over 20 yards per reception (and came within 65 yards of achieving that feat for a third time).
Yes it is. Have you checked out my video featuring Warren Wells? It's located in my playlist in the Special Features section, if not. Thanks for commenting!
@@markgardner9460 Nah I didn't notice you had one on Wells. Will definitely check it out tonight while I'm at work :)
"Did not know..that "Duane Thomas"..ended up with the "Redskins".. "However"..."Jurgenson and "Kilmer"..will always be a part of "Redskins"lore"!!
I guess you could say a tie in football is like a no-contest in boxing.
I would go with the Redskins
The Snake
Not A Cowboys fan but that Roger the Dodger was dangerous,
Yes, he never slid either; he'd drop a shoulder into a defender if need be.
When a little league football player plays dirty, it's called unsportsmanlike conduct. When an NFL player plays dirty, he is called a fierce competitor.
After 1971, the Raiders didn't lose 3 straight games again until late in the 1978 season, Madden's last.
Yeah, they were a powerhouse for a long time after that letdown in late '71.
Can you imagine having Sonny as your backup quarterback? Sure beats having Blane Gabbert
That's like having John Unitas as the back-up to Earl Morrall. What a luxury!
Tough way for Jurgensen (9) to end his career with that depressing interception by Isiah Robertson (58) for the clinching TD in the Divisional Playoff Game.
The heat was on him and he pulled the trigger. Hard to blame him when he's trying to make a play and it's late in the game, but you're right - tough way to exit his career.
I bought a Washington Redskins helmet a few years ago before you know who cancelled them 🙄
1976 Rams with Shack Harris, Jaws and Rhodes scholar Pat Haden
Yeah, those guys were good, but there's no Hall of Famers in that bunch. I like Harris the best out of that bunch, how 'bout you?
When I look at these highlights it just makes me wish that the offense was more open.
The AFL was noted for it's wide open game in the '60's, but the integration of the two leagues resulted in the NFL being primarily a rushing league until 1978.
@@markgardner9460 I was referring to the Washington offense and main reason rushing went up is because of moving of the hash marks to the middle of the field. Before George Allen the Washington offense was more open. Allen was more defensive oriented and didn’t like Sonny Jurgensen he preferred Billy Kilmer.
Oh, I see. Pardon me. Yes, Allen preferred the strategy of having an iron clad defensive combined with a ball control offense for the most part. I'm always amazed that Allen's collegiate rah-rah coaching style worked so well in the pro ranks.
Especially with his team of mostly veterans.
Great point - to win them over had to be no small feat.
Drew Buie (#89), out of Cawtaba College, like Ram one-year (1964) receiving wonder Bucky Pope, "The Cawtaba Claw".
It sounds like you've seen that NFL Films presentation featuring Bucky Pope. It's a good one - I like it.
@@markgardner9460 Oh, yeah, they did a couple of features on Pope, most notably during Episode 1 of "Lost Treasures Of NFL Films".
That's the one I saw. I didn't know there was another one, I guess.
@@markgardner9460 Two of them, in fact. One was a feature they produced in 1999 for "NFL Films Presents", using some of the same "Lost Treasures" footage, and there was a shorter one they did on him sometime back in the '80s.
7:47 that’s the first time I’ve ever seen a referee signal touchdown before the ball even broke the plane.
The dude was just itching to stretch his arms evidently.
Good catch Mark! Theismann's double face mask,!
At 9;40 the Clint Longley game
Love the shot 11:00 Sonny Jurgensen to Charlie Taylor! The camera catching the perfect spiral!
That's a very tough call! I think I give the Silver and Black a slight edge!
Was Billy Kilmer a running back at UCLA?...James Harris and John Had?
Kilmer was a running QB while Hadl was an All-American at Running Back while a Junior at Kansas, as well as an All-American at Quarterback during his senior season.
ronnie lotts dad was in the army stationed in the area
the two best qbs of the 70s were roger stauback and terry bradshaw
How about Fred Biletnikoff rocking the silver shoes at 17:22? As Joe Washington would during his career.
I did not notice that. Now I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the heads up! Then there's L C. Greenwood's gold hightops.
@@markgardner9460 Speaking of, several of the Packers wore gold shoes on artificial turf in 1973-74.
Today, the NFL's cash registers would be ringing in joy with all of the money from uniform violation fines.
@@markgardner9460 Don't even get me started on how the league itself has become a uniform violation, ever since they started letting teams wear monochrome uniforms in the late '90s and then once they let Nike do all of the league's uniforms.
At 4:08 Doug Swift be like "he didn't get in" but the attorney Nick Buoniconti knew better.
Nick was a sharpie. I remember that he did a year or two of NFL color commentary, too. Of course he was on HBO's Inside the NFL with Len Dawson seemingly forever.
Billy Kilmer was over weight but he was a baller
Sonny Jurgensen used to say "I don't throw with my belly" when knocked about his big belly. Same thing with Billy
In those days it was a given that you needed two startable QBs to even start a season. I think of Unitas and Morral or Griese and Morral or Dawson and Livingston or Staubach and Morton...they all won SBs like that.
Didnt Pittaburgh have Layne, Dawson and Morral all at once in the late 50s?
Morrall, Jack Kemp and Dawson in '57. Layne, Morrall and Dawson in '58. Incredible.
@@markgardner9460 No argument there. Excellent video.
ronnie lott wore number 42 because of charlie taylor
I did not know that - thanks for providing!
Roger Staubach/Danny White?
also, Roger Staubach/Craig Morton..
Great combination - I was aiming for 3 QB's, but thanks for providing.
But what QB won 4 super bowls in 6 years during their 10 year dynasty?
Bradshaw, but he did not have two other high quality QB's during that time.
@@markgardner9460 that’s even more impressive.
11 years/12 seasons
I’ll give the nod to Oakland. Even though stabler and theisman were late bloomers.
OK, I appreciate your take. Thanks!
The Skins Win The Qb Battle Over The Raiders
OK - I appreciate your take
Strange seeing a Redskin running back wearing #44 not named Riggins.
No kidding. I think they got Moses Denson from the CFL. Hard to believe that even George Allen couldn't properly motivate Duane Thomas for an extended period of time.
klimers nickname was whiskey lol
His vocal quality matched that of a morning after said indulgence.
Two words: Fran Tarkenton.
I hear ya - I'm one of Tark's biggest fans. This video is about the combination quality of all QB's on a given roster.
Those drops were not Kilmer's fault lol
He was right on the money!
What is the point of showing the drops by Taylor to start the video?
While there was other footage prior to the Taylor footage, it was meant to convey that the quarterback's pass was right on the money and that even a future hall of famer can make a mistake.
I like the mix of good and bad plays tbh. I don't like when content creators make everything a highlight reel, or the opposite where they only show bad plays when talking about a losing team.
Players make mistakes from time to time - I think creators should feature what really happened, both good and bad. My next video that I'm working on will have both aspects.
@@markgardner9460 Exactly. Your videos seem to be good in that way.
The 71 Raiders were decimated by injuries
Who were some of the casualties?
@@markgardner9460 Hewitt Dixon, Charlie Smith, and Warren Wells (Wells was a legal issue) were all lost before the season started
Looks like Hubbard missed three games, too.
I think Thismann’s NFL career was about 12 seasons.
You're right - even adding in his 3 CFL years, it comes up a year short
74-85...thanks to LTs bone breaking sack.
@@aaropajari7058 I'm old enough to remember that. If you watch the video LT knew right away that there was a serious problem.
Drew Bouie ......... Another Catawba Claw ??????................ Eagles Home Uneees The Best !!!
I really like those Eagles uni's too!!
Philadelphia, Houston, and New Orleans: great uniforms; lousy teams! 😮😮😮😮😮😊😊😊
I dig all of those uniforms. Some of them are a little hard to come by...or cost a lot of money. Maybe some day.
And at least Houston and Philadelphia were playoff teams by the late '70s.
I know I was a Saints fan then
@@eddiekulp1241 And actually, the Saints had their first ever non-losing season (8-8) in 1979.
Then The Aints appeared in '80.
Sonny
Some Paul Warfield if you can sir. and i am betting you can, fine job, chuckles included old time football, my dad was a big Jurgenson fan, was his QB in table top APBA
I have Warfield near the top of my list, so hopefully that will be forthcoming soon.
Your joking right?
3 QB's....not 1 or 2.
NOT the 70s.
Love billy Kilmer go redskins..my pronouns aren't gladiators
"Battlin' Billy": It's not about looks - it's about results. Great competitor.