What a dream home you have, this is the kind of self efficient home i dream to live in! Maybe bigger since i am not into tiny house, but lost like that in the nature and not depending from the system
Have you ever hear of "the capacitor ". Super soco owner too. Think you guys could totally check out each others projects. I bought a fancy cable from him to switch regen on, on my bike. I'm mid mod on a TC Max. All superficial stuff to look bling😂. Looking at power stations and solar though to free charge. ✌🏽❤️
Great video mate, really well shot and presented. Would suggest to anyone thinking of doing something similar that you avoid the DALY BMS, which are basically junk. They have great problems detecting the state of charge and the balance current is pathetic, when the BMS decides to balance at all. Most people who start out with one end up replacing it with a JK BMS or an Overkill. They can "flutter" also, rapidly cutting in and out which may have killed your sabvoton. Might want to consider that you are probably going well over the discharge C rating for those cells, which will drastically shorten their life. Any idea what temps they reach? A lovely build though, and hopefully you havent experienced any of the issues I mentioned. Subbed and look forward to watching your other projects progress.
Well right now I've got it dialed to max out at 9kw and after riding at relatively high speeds 80ish kph for 20 or so minutes I got a temperature reading of 35 degrees C in terms of c rate when I bought the cells they had a stated max discharge rate of 3c not sure if that's 3x the rated capacity or 3x the the yield which is should be around 80% of that either way I'm getting somewhere in the area of 3.6kwh of usable capacity which should mean a theoretical max of around 10.8kw I'm not expecting these cells to last as long as they would in a solar or backup power application but I'd be happy with somewhere near 1500 cycles ...it will take a while before I can find out if that's realistic but I'll definitely post an update in couple of years if the bike still runs 🤣
Only 3.6kWh? The Lithium phosphate (or what type did you take?) took its toll then with its worse energy density. The TC Max has 3.2kWh with its normal 45Ah battery. So not much less and it’s still too small for longer rides (60-80km range)
Have you thought about clamping for those cells to prevent swelling under load. The previous bike would have needed this less but has it in the form of the ALU housing whereas yours will hammer those cells harder. It seems like your initial idea would have been better had it fit.
Great video, i was considering doing the same to my super soco TS1200R, i bought sa super soco 60v45ah battery from a super soco scooter, a fardriver 360 amp controller and screen. I was deliberating on a wheel hub motor. May i ask what kind of speed you managed based on your 90 amps setting thro the motor, id be hoping for around 65 mph. Thank you.
Has anuone any idra of what the original bosch 1200w motor is capable off running at a much higher current. I believe the TS1200R bms limited the amps to 30A, and the motor i think is max 3KW. With my replacement 45AH battery, that could run at 2C continuous, so thats 90 amps, but if the motor is at capacity 3kw, then all i`ll need is 50 amps, I wonder what speed would be achieved at that rate? Any ideas?
Did you put the original tire on the new wheel? I am going through a QS-Motor upgrade on my TC and am curious how the fit of the tire worked out for you.
@@Brokenrobotproductions I’m about to fit the wheel in place… for yours did you need to spread your rear fork for it to fit? If you did, how? I’m exploring using a car jack to spread it but not sure how far to push it and not enough seems to just return to the same width.
@@Brokenrobotproductions That's precisely what I need! I bought a 2018 Super Soco TC from a friend and knew he had issues with its battery. I think it got wet on its inside or something like that. So I got it cheap. However, it takes over 10 sec from 0-50km/h, the range is about 30km, and even when I'm close to 70km/h, the speed drops very fast uphill. There are some hills that get as low as 30km/h. Then I have a queue of cars behind me. I'd be more than happy if it could accelerate faster, and keep the speed steady at 50km/h uphill. I don't need it to go more than 70km/h, besides that'd be cool. Do you think the only way to achieve that is by upgrading the whole system as you did, or would that be possible by upgrading only the battery and controller? I weight about 90kg (~200lb).
@@arduesp I've seen some people running the original hub motor at much higher power levels than factory up to 9kw but I've no idea how long the motor would last being pushed that hard my qs can run at 9kw for 20 minutes continuously without going above 35c
Here's the motor a.aliexpress.com/_msawe22 Here's the bms a.aliexpress.com/_mLqt6Wa Charger a.aliexpress.com/_msK77MK The cells from litokala have sold out The motor controller I bought broke so I wouldn't recommend it in the end
I love what you did! I have the TC as my daily driver in the US. I top out at about 70 kilometers per hour, stock. I have a moped plate, so I can't do something like this without getting pulled over. What is your top speed?
I'm still sorta treating it as a moped just with allot more range and torque I had it tuned to go around 60mph max but I've turned it down a little to maximise range
@@slawdog4009 ordered everything from China shipping was fairly cheap except the motor which had to be sent using a premium courier which cost almost as much as the motor itself and then ended up getting caught for import duty on it so paid twice the sale price to get it all the parts ended coming out to about 2500 euros but I had to replace the motor controller when it broke and bought that from the UK to get faster shipping which cost an additional 500
@@Brokenrobotproductions Yikes. Sounds like you still saved some money from the ~5k overseas minimum, but I'm sorry for all the trouble you went through. Are Alibaba/Aliexpress the go-to's?
@@slawdog4009 yeah from what I've seen to buy a electric bike with those specs is probably around 6-7k so I'm happy with the overall cost and yean alliexpress is my go to
Why do people who have what appears to be very interesting videos ruin them with loud music? I want to see what you do, not hear your music preferences. Less than 2 minutes in and I'm gone.
Well the motor is in effect already a generator once the Regen kicks in the magnetic field inverts and current flows back from the motor into the controller to charge the battery if you were to add a stator to the motor any current you generated from the stator would just add load to the motor drawing more power at a greater rate than you could generate from the stator
Great video! Please lower the volume on the background music so that your voice comes thrugh more
Cool bike and you hardly hear it. Awesome upgrade. It sure makes a big difference!
What a dream home you have, this is the kind of self efficient home i dream to live in! Maybe bigger since i am not into tiny house, but lost like that in the nature and not depending from the system
Sheesh you upgraded it beyond the TC Max
this video is a masterpiece and the build itself is very motivational
Have you ever hear of "the capacitor ". Super soco owner too. Think you guys could totally check out each others projects. I bought a fancy cable from him to switch regen on, on my bike. I'm mid mod on a TC Max. All superficial stuff to look bling😂. Looking at power stations and solar though to free charge. ✌🏽❤️
Great video mate, really well shot and presented.
Would suggest to anyone thinking of doing something similar that you avoid the DALY BMS, which are basically junk. They have great problems detecting the state of charge and the balance current is pathetic, when the BMS decides to balance at all. Most people who start out with one end up replacing it with a JK BMS or an Overkill. They can "flutter" also, rapidly cutting in and out which may have killed your sabvoton.
Might want to consider that you are probably going well over the discharge C rating for those cells, which will drastically shorten their life. Any idea what temps they reach?
A lovely build though, and hopefully you havent experienced any of the issues I mentioned. Subbed and look forward to watching your other projects progress.
Well right now I've got it dialed to max out at 9kw and after riding at relatively high speeds 80ish kph for 20 or so minutes I got a temperature reading of 35 degrees C in terms of c rate when I bought the cells they had a stated max discharge rate of 3c not sure if that's 3x the rated capacity or 3x the the yield which is should be around 80% of that either way I'm getting somewhere in the area of 3.6kwh of usable capacity which should mean a theoretical max of around 10.8kw I'm not expecting these cells to last as long as they would in a solar or backup power application but I'd be happy with somewhere near 1500 cycles ...it will take a while before I can find out if that's realistic but I'll definitely post an update in couple of years if the bike still runs 🤣
@@Brokenrobotproductions In the comment above he wrote he reached 80km/h which is 50 miles an hour (US - statute miles).
Only 3.6kWh? The Lithium phosphate (or what type did you take?) took its toll then with its worse energy density. The TC Max has 3.2kWh with its normal 45Ah battery. So not much less and it’s still too small for longer rides (60-80km range)
Have you thought about clamping for those cells to prevent swelling under load. The previous bike would have needed this less but has it in the form of the ALU housing whereas yours will hammer those cells harder. It seems like your initial idea would have been better had it fit.
Very inspiring.
Great work a starting working on my own Super soco trying to do with a little bit better.
Как вы подключали две батареи, как родной контроллер их распознает?
Интереснее, как сочетаются две батареи?
Excelente trabajo!!!! Felicitaciones!!
Great video, i was considering doing the same to my super soco TS1200R, i bought sa super soco 60v45ah battery from a super soco scooter, a fardriver 360 amp controller and screen. I was deliberating on a wheel hub motor. May i ask what kind of speed you managed based on your 90 amps setting thro the motor, id be hoping for around 65 mph. Thank you.
Has anuone any idra of what the original bosch 1200w motor is capable off running at a much higher current. I believe the TS1200R bms limited the amps to 30A, and the motor i think is max 3KW. With my replacement 45AH battery, that could run at 2C continuous, so thats 90 amps, but if the motor is at capacity 3kw, then all i`ll need is 50 amps, I wonder what speed would be achieved at that rate? Any ideas?
can you rebuild our Super Soco just like this if we get in contact with you? that would be cool, like a custom shop :)
Did you put the original tire on the new wheel? I am going through a QS-Motor upgrade on my TC and am curious how the fit of the tire worked out for you.
@BilboBaggins42 yeah original tyre fitted no problem..definitely isnt rated for the bikes new top speed tho
@@Brokenrobotproductions I’m about to fit the wheel in place… for yours did you need to spread your rear fork for it to fit? If you did, how? I’m exploring using a car jack to spread it but not sure how far to push it and not enough seems to just return to the same width.
@BilboBaggins42 yeah i spread it using a car jack incrimentally widing it gradually ..only needed an extra 5mm or so
@@Brokenrobotproductions awesome! Thanks for the help. Got it installed and all buttoned up today. Rides like a dream. 😁👍
What was the difference in performance? Any big changes to acceleration, top speed, range, etc?
Top speed is around 105km 0-50km in around 4 seconds range about 80km with mixed riding
@@Brokenrobotproductions Very cool, thanks!
@@Brokenrobotproductions That's precisely what I need! I bought a 2018 Super Soco TC from a friend and knew he had issues with its battery. I think it got wet on its inside or something like that. So I got it cheap. However, it takes over 10 sec from 0-50km/h, the range is about 30km, and even when I'm close to 70km/h, the speed drops very fast uphill. There are some hills that get as low as 30km/h. Then I have a queue of cars behind me. I'd be more than happy if it could accelerate faster, and keep the speed steady at 50km/h uphill. I don't need it to go more than 70km/h, besides that'd be cool. Do you think the only way to achieve that is by upgrading the whole system as you did, or would that be possible by upgrading only the battery and controller? I weight about 90kg (~200lb).
@@arduesp I've seen some people running the original hub motor at much higher power levels than factory up to 9kw but I've no idea how long the motor would last being pushed that hard my qs can run at 9kw for 20 minutes continuously without going above 35c
Sick build man, following to see what else you do!
Yeah my hope is to get an adapter to allow me to charge using ev charge stations and take it on a longer trip
Can you link the parts? Like the motor, etc.
Here's the motor
a.aliexpress.com/_msawe22
Here's the bms
a.aliexpress.com/_mLqt6Wa
Charger
a.aliexpress.com/_msK77MK
The cells from litokala have sold out
The motor controller I bought broke so I wouldn't recommend it in the end
@@Brokenrobotproductions thank you! Btw. really impressive what you've done with the bike; inspirational :)
@@dasryte3265 thanks
What battery cells you took?
They're littokala 30ah lithium iron phosphate cells
You didn't need to buy new motor to get the regen working . All you needed was just the controller .
He needed the new motor for more power 🚀
I love what you did! I have the TC as my daily driver in the US. I top out at about 70 kilometers per hour, stock. I have a moped plate, so I can't do something like this without getting pulled over. What is your top speed?
I'm still sorta treating it as a moped just with allot more range and torque I had it tuned to go around 60mph max but I've turned it down a little to maximise range
May I ask where you ordered from, and price? I'm in the US as well, trying to compare options.
@@slawdog4009 ordered everything from China shipping was fairly cheap except the motor which had to be sent using a premium courier which cost almost as much as the motor itself and then ended up getting caught for import duty on it so paid twice the sale price to get it all the parts ended coming out to about 2500 euros but I had to replace the motor controller when it broke and bought that from the UK to get faster shipping which cost an additional 500
@@Brokenrobotproductions Yikes. Sounds like you still saved some money from the ~5k overseas minimum, but I'm sorry for all the trouble you went through. Are Alibaba/Aliexpress the go-to's?
@@slawdog4009 yeah from what I've seen to buy a electric bike with those specs is probably around 6-7k so I'm happy with the overall cost and yean alliexpress is my go to
Nice grades
Be careful with nylon tires they are bad ! Also be careful of chinese bad welded fork! It can break up easly.
clickbait, upgrading my bike, that just so happens to be charged using my solar panels.....
Yeah but that's a much less catchy title
Why do people who have what appears to be very interesting videos ruin them with loud music? I want to see what you do, not hear your music preferences.
Less than 2 minutes in and I'm gone.
Sir… why not embed a stator connected in the motor… so it can self recharge it while running… just like a scooter???
Well the motor is in effect already a generator once the Regen kicks in the magnetic field inverts and current flows back from the motor into the controller to charge the battery if you were to add a stator to the motor any current you generated from the stator would just add load to the motor drawing more power at a greater rate than you could generate from the stator