@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa6173 because that song is pre recorded, this is made with sound channels that you can recreate yourself if you have the files
To further elaborate on the answer above: the Mega Drive and other consoles of that era and earlier used sound chips that were mostly designed to read programmed/sequenced audio and generate it via oscillators on the go, because audio files would take up way too much space to store on a cartridge. So Mega Drive music is a programmed sequence that, if harvested, can be separated in instructions for each channel and played as a multichannel thing. In the Dreamcast era we already had the CD, which fit a whole lot more data than your average 90's cartridge, and the sound output was designed to play files like we are used today. So Dreamcast music is essentially .wav files, that you can't just seamlessly separate in channels other than Left and Right.
That can't happen. That song is just CD audio-- in other words, one sample that contains all the instruments. Unless you somehow found the utility to create the music and the project file itself that Sega used back in the day and solo the channels, there's no deconstructing it.
Are quite noticeable the differences between the other classic Sonic tracks compared to the Jun Senoue compositions. The leads shine more than the bass in the Senoue's style, and the rest of the classic Sonic OST (by the way, inspired in the Masato Nakamura's style) the bass is pretty prominent in the compositions. Here, the bass is average, only backuping the leads and beign simple. Another thing that I can realise in this and the other Senoue's themes is that the bass doesn't turns the styles just like in the other classic Sonic OSTs. In the most of the other sonic music, the bass always turn from slap to fingerstyle and on. But in the Senoue's music, the bass keeps one style all over the theme. I think that what influenced the differences between of the both composers' style is the instrument that they play respectively. Nakamura is a bassist, so his compositions puts more emphasis in the bass which works as a secondary lead. Nevertheless, Senoue is a guitarrist, so his compositions are more oriented in the leads and the riffs, while the bass only is a support to the lead.
@@Wulframe Woah, I've not expected that someone would read this comment, but... Yeah, thank you for reading! And you're right, sometimes the people puts random things on the comments sections and usually can get interesting. Hope you found my comment interesting.
That's actually quite an interesting point. I'm still personally trying to piece together the whole Sonic 3 music situation and this might help me find the composer for the proto Launch Base as that track has an unusually really simple bass line
@@futabamajima The composers from the proto are the same whom composed the Non-MJ tracks: the members of the SEGA Sound Team. The Cube Team only worked in miscellaneous music.
@@TheSuperPlayer707 Cube also worked on programming from what it seems. An example being Masayuki Nagao who arranged Act 2s of Hydrocity and Lava Reef. As a side note, I see you're a fan of Ristar too. We need more people like you in the world
The bassline used in the SEGA Sound team tracks are quite inspired in the Nakamura's style, inf fact I rememebr of hearing that one of the members of the team (Tomonori Sawada) commented that the people of SEGA demanded to do that, with the pretetxt that the fans must not feel the composers have changed. Nevertheless, it's quite confusing, because some other composers from the team only reworked scrapped songs, such as the Yoshiaki Kashima's Special Stage music from SegaSonic Bros, and others only said that the reminicences of the style of the soundtracks made by Nakamura wasn't intentional (said by Mikoyo Takaoka via Twitter's feed). So, I think that the Sonic 3 music situation it's never going to be a case closed. The declarations of all the members are way contradictory sometimes (just like was I said above) and maybe never are going to be consistent. Every composer worked by its own vision of how the music needed to be and that makes the commentaries so different. There's also a bunch of clues that the soundtrack was worked by the different composers in different periods of time, what it means that surelly he dirctives from SEGA would have been different depending on which period of time the track was composed. That fact makes the back traking of the composers even more difficult to achieve.
Oh sick, I love Twinkle Park! Thanks for deconstructing this song for us! Also puppet panic is really good so all joking aside thank you for doing this because I love this song
did you know that endless mine, city escape, sonic mania leitmotif, twinkle park, panic puppet, SR3DB final boss have the same melody, only difference if the pitch
@@jordy_de-zee well, technically the melody is different, but the rythm in all of the songs is the same as one part of endless mine, except for city escape in sonic generations, because that song refrences the main melody of endless mine.
@@TVP_SnowyAuroraZ I mean, if you panic in panic puppet you're boned. Not good? Throw me a bone here, I can't think of any sonic and bones jokes. At least, not one appropriate for children and Papyrus.
7:09 Channel 2 plays my favorite part in music, not sure what the technically correct name for it is but the supporting/harmonizing voice to the lead has always been the most interesting to me.
Would love to see more Yuzo Koshiro: Streets of Rage series and Revenge of Shinobi had some dope tunes. A little Spencer Nilssen would be cool, love that Ecco the Dolphin sound.
Really grateful for you doing this and uploading it. Trying to make a metal cover of this and you have been an amazing help and resource. Thank you so much!
@@theinsanegamer1024 Thanks! I ended up doing a techno note for note remaster first to lay out all the notes. Still on back burner but sometime I will get to it Haha 🦊
I demand someone make a lounge remix or lobby remix of Twinkle Park using the PSG 0 and PSG 1. I actually have an idea of how it would sound, came to me in a dream I had when I was Amy Rose shopping in a mall.
And people wonder why* they reused 3D Blast's music in Adventure. A lot of work clearly went into the soundtrack of this unfortunately disappointing game. *I don't actually know if people wonder why. This is just an assumption.
3:06 I had a dream once I was Amy Rose in a Grocery Store looking for Strawberry Puchao candy, the music that played in the store had the same notes, cept it was like elevator or grocery store music it sounded like strings of some kind not a synth. I knew I heard it somewhere.
@@theinsanegamer1024 A shame that he wasn't playable. Then again, hardware limitations, so yeah. But hey, that's what ROM hacks are for, amirite? Also, what do ya mean I can't play Sonic 3D Blast & Knuckles!? XD
This song proves that even though that there are many bad sonic games... they still care about the music... Panic Puppet Zone Act 1 is literally a banger of a track and has no right coming from one of the worst games in the series. Same story with Sonic 06, I think they spent the whole time working on the music, found out the game was due in 2 weeks, and then started work on the game then
Look, we are talking 1996. At that time, squeezing this much out of the Genesis was pretty, great actually. But people found many errors. And that’s because, well the jump everybody knows about. But 1994, Sonic 3 & Knuckles was a hit. Though they made the backgrounds and Sonic 3D, it was a 2D-played game. So all they took was a 2-year break, then they decided to begin the 3D Sonic world in. And here are the results. It isn’t the best game, but it isn’t the worst, either.
Channel 3 and 4 are literally flickies "talking". Amazing composition.
Though, if you have itchy earholes i suggest not listening to this part that much :(
Actually, I can picture that. 😮
YES! I love the stereo effect on this one. Fantastic with headphones
IKR
Yes it is :)
It kinda bothers me.
@@ShadowMixes69 9:50 is when it makes sense - channel 3 and 4 come back with the rest of it and its great!
@@ShadowMixes69 ok so it’s not just me who doesn’t like it
4:26 Emmet when he gets surrounded by robots
God if only deconstructions could exist with the Dreamcast version of this amazing song. (Twinkle Kart is what it's named in Sonic Adventure btw)
Collin Robertson why doesn’t it exist
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa6173 because that song is pre recorded, this is made with sound channels that you can recreate yourself if you have the files
To further elaborate on the answer above: the Mega Drive and other consoles of that era and earlier used sound chips that were mostly designed to read programmed/sequenced audio and generate it via oscillators on the go, because audio files would take up way too much space to store on a cartridge. So Mega Drive music is a programmed sequence that, if harvested, can be separated in instructions for each channel and played as a multichannel thing.
In the Dreamcast era we already had the CD, which fit a whole lot more data than your average 90's cartridge, and the sound output was designed to play files like we are used today. So Dreamcast music is essentially .wav files, that you can't just seamlessly separate in channels other than Left and Right.
That can't happen. That song is just CD audio-- in other words, one sample that contains all the instruments. Unless you somehow found the utility to create the music and the project file itself that Sega used back in the day and solo the channels, there's no deconstructing it.
I wouldn't call it amazing...
Are quite noticeable the differences between the other classic Sonic tracks compared to the Jun Senoue compositions. The leads shine more than the bass in the Senoue's style, and the rest of the classic Sonic OST (by the way, inspired in the Masato Nakamura's style) the bass is pretty prominent in the compositions.
Here, the bass is average, only backuping the leads and beign simple. Another thing that I can realise in this and the other Senoue's themes is that the bass doesn't turns the styles just like in the other classic Sonic OSTs. In the most of the other sonic music, the bass always turn from slap to fingerstyle and on. But in the Senoue's music, the bass keeps one style all over the theme.
I think that what influenced the differences between of the both composers' style is the instrument that they play respectively. Nakamura is a bassist, so his compositions puts more emphasis in the bass which works as a secondary lead. Nevertheless, Senoue is a guitarrist, so his compositions are more oriented in the leads and the riffs, while the bass only is a support to the lead.
@@Wulframe Woah, I've not expected that someone would read this comment, but... Yeah, thank you for reading!
And you're right, sometimes the people puts random things on the comments sections and usually can get interesting.
Hope you found my comment interesting.
That's actually quite an interesting point. I'm still personally trying to piece together the whole Sonic 3 music situation and this might help me find the composer for the proto Launch Base as that track has an unusually really simple bass line
@@futabamajima The composers from the proto are the same whom composed the Non-MJ tracks: the members of the SEGA Sound Team. The Cube Team only worked in miscellaneous music.
@@TheSuperPlayer707 Cube also worked on programming from what it seems. An example being Masayuki Nagao who arranged Act 2s of Hydrocity and Lava Reef.
As a side note, I see you're a fan of Ristar too. We need more people like you in the world
The bassline used in the SEGA Sound team tracks are quite inspired in the Nakamura's style, inf fact I rememebr of hearing that one of the members of the team (Tomonori Sawada) commented that the people of SEGA demanded to do that, with the pretetxt that the fans must not feel the composers have changed.
Nevertheless, it's quite confusing, because some other composers from the team only reworked scrapped songs, such as the Yoshiaki Kashima's Special Stage music from SegaSonic Bros, and others only said that the reminicences of the style of the soundtracks made by Nakamura wasn't intentional (said by Mikoyo Takaoka via Twitter's feed).
So, I think that the Sonic 3 music situation it's never going to be a case closed. The declarations of all the members are way contradictory sometimes (just like was I said above) and maybe never are going to be consistent. Every composer worked by its own vision of how the music needed to be and that makes the commentaries so different. There's also a bunch of clues that the soundtrack was worked by the different composers in different periods of time, what it means that surelly he dirctives from SEGA would have been different depending on which period of time the track was composed. That fact makes the back traking of the composers even more difficult to achieve.
I love the chords that PSG 0 and PSG 1 make (3:07 to 4:24). They give life to an already amazing track!
Oh god yes! I know one remix that makes that a part of the song you hear more. It's the one used in Sonic World R10 or whatever.
@@fionathefox8945 Which song specifically?
4:26
That sounds really good! That has to be my favorite part.
Oh my, actually bass lines(Channel 0 and DAC) sounds like bass lines in Vectorman's "Stayin' Alive"
Oh sick, I love Twinkle Park! Thanks for deconstructing this song for us!
Also puppet panic is really good so all joking aside thank you for doing this because I love this song
did you know that endless mine, city escape, sonic mania leitmotif, twinkle park, panic puppet, SR3DB final boss have the same melody, only difference if the pitch
@@jordy_de-zee well, technically the melody is different, but the rythm in all of the songs is the same as one part of endless mine, except for city escape in sonic generations, because that song refrences the main melody of endless mine.
@@TeaShrooomPog from alex yard & knuckles right?
th-cam.com/video/bKNj60pZHTo/w-d-xo.html
@@jordy_de-zeeDid YOU know that this track Was originally going to be used as an Boss theme?
@@jordy_de-zee I did, it's pretty wonderful. Also, gotta throw in New Moon from Knuckles Chaotix and the Mania version of FBZ Act 2.
Channel 0 alone sounds the beginning of Bonetrousle.
Lol
But of course.
@@TVP_SnowyAuroraZ I mean, if you panic in panic puppet you're boned. Not good? Throw me a bone here, I can't think of any sonic and bones jokes. At least, not one appropriate for children and Papyrus.
Yeah
7:09 Channel 2 plays my favorite part in music, not sure what the technically correct name for it is but the supporting/harmonizing voice to the lead has always been the most interesting to me.
Maybe it's the counter melody?
This is so unique sounding, one of my all time favorites
That bass. Good fucking god.
Would love to see more Yuzo Koshiro: Streets of Rage series and Revenge of Shinobi had some dope tunes. A little Spencer Nilssen would be cool, love that Ecco the Dolphin sound.
0:00 Ch3, Ch4
1:46 Ch1, Ch2
3:07 PSG0, PSG1
4:26 Ch0, DAC
5:47 All PSGs, Ch0, DAC
7:08 Ch2, All PSGs, Ch0, DAC
8:29 Ch1, Ch2, All PSGs, Ch0, DAC
9:49 Ch3, Ch1, Ch2, All PSGs, Ch0, DAC
11:10 Every channel
I had no clue the twinkle park music came from Sonic 3D blast!
"Welcome to Twinkle Park!"
Yes i know this is where it originated but i am glad to hear this song in it's original sound font.
I'm gonna keep asking about collision chaos past until you make the video
The kick drum rolls are so intense on the mega drive 😳
Really grateful for you doing this and uploading it. Trying to make a metal cover of this and you have been an amazing help and resource. Thank you so much!
Hope you get it done sometime, good luck with the music.
@@theinsanegamer1024 Thanks! I ended up doing a techno note for note remaster first to lay out all the notes. Still on back burner but sometime I will get to it Haha 🦊
@@Ephitaph good luck!
@@Ephitaph Progress update?
OH HELLO SONIC MANIA
I demand someone make a lounge remix or lobby remix of Twinkle Park using the PSG 0 and PSG 1. I actually have an idea of how it would sound, came to me in a dream I had when I was Amy Rose shopping in a mall.
Welp, I found the perfect go-kart racing music.
11:12 EVERYBODY NOW!!
Cool song, they should reuse it or something
@@edwardclark6731 Would be amazing for an amusement-type stage like Carnival night, except way better.
@@edwardclark6731 They did
@@TonyIsCool45 I'm aware, it's a joke
@@edwardclark6731 k
And people wonder why* they reused 3D Blast's music in Adventure. A lot of work clearly went into the soundtrack of this unfortunately disappointing game.
*I don't actually know if people wonder why. This is just an assumption.
4:26 fave part
Pls do Act 2
Brilliant as usual
I have a deconstruction request: Shining Force 2 Lively Town.
I like the panning of Channel 4 at the beginning of the song.
4:27 Sounds like something from Shantae on gbc
So this is why it gets stucked on your head so deep.
Volcano Valley act 1 please :3
how does he keep the waveforms centered?
it's the software
@@PASTELXENON but what software is he using
th-cam.com/video/hgFUMzmgwYE/w-d-xo.html
SidWiz helps too
CORRSCOPE for the oscilloscope, and Foobar2000 for the deconstruction.
This song is used too in the intro
3:06 I had a dream once I was Amy Rose in a Grocery Store looking for Strawberry Puchao candy, the music that played in the store had the same notes, cept it was like elevator or grocery store music it sounded like strings of some kind not a synth. I knew I heard it somewhere.
How does he separate them?
VGM/VGZ files and Foobar 2000.
@@PilaCiu & Corrscope for the oscilloscope
PSG 3 makes this song MILES better.
Miles prower?
@@theinsanegamer1024 A shame that he wasn't playable. Then again, hardware limitations, so yeah. But hey, that's what ROM hacks are for, amirite?
Also, what do ya mean I can't play Sonic 3D Blast & Knuckles!? XD
@@RandomTomatoMusic Super Sonic 3d blast and knuckles turbo DX featuring Dante from devil may cry: The revenge of Le chuck.
@@theinsanegamer1024 O_O that's alotta muns
@@RandomTomatoMusic I'm starting to see you everywhere
WOO HOO!!!
I've found yet another cool thing here [finger hits subscribe button]
amazing
PSG 0 &1 alone creep me out. Good thing it’s almost HaLoWeEn!!!!
P-P-P-Panic Puppet Zone!
Act 2 pls
Sonic mania title extended be like:
_BILL BILL BILL BILL_
cringe
CRINGE CRINGE CRINGE CRINGE
*what*
???
NVM
4:25 it's show time !!!!!
4:25 5:46
Dac pops off here
Can you make a version without the stereo effect
👍
Cool
This song proves that even though that there are many bad sonic games... they still care about the music... Panic Puppet Zone Act 1 is literally a banger of a track and has no right coming from one of the worst games in the series. Same story with Sonic 06, I think they spent the whole time working on the music, found out the game was due in 2 weeks, and then started work on the game then
You have got to admit that sonic 3d blast was a pretty amazing feat coming out of the genesis even though it was unplayable
@@natcharmusic It's not that bad actually
3d blast is great
Look, we are talking 1996. At that time, squeezing this much out of the Genesis was pretty, great actually. But people found many errors. And that’s because, well the jump everybody knows about. But 1994, Sonic 3 & Knuckles was a hit. Though they made the backgrounds and Sonic 3D, it was a 2D-played game. So all they took was a 2-year break, then they decided to begin the 3D Sonic world in. And here are the results. It isn’t the best game, but it isn’t the worst, either.
4:27 is my aesthetic!
Channel 0 + DAC 😍