So incredibly sad to witness the final seconds of the legendary Ayrton Senna. Let’s not forget that Roland Ratzenberger also died that disastrous weekend. RIP to them both ✝️✝️
Indeed. Ratzenberger death brought Senna down that weekend, he was even afraid of racing, he didn't want to race. It's like he was having a bad feeling about the race. We Brazilians mourn his death ever since. One of the saddest moments for us!
@@typhoontm5444 Even more, the start crash I think damage some people of the grandstands, and mid race it was also a bad incident inside boxes. Terrible week
Senna deu várias entrevistas antes dessa corrida identificando problemas no carro, essa aqui é apenas uma delas: th-cam.com/video/p7c3F_8KPRQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oiMd9Q63gZSOhPDS
You can see Senna trying his best to turn that wheel, thats when his head comes into view. The steering column broke. Brilliant video. Thank you for posting.
It did not break, his car has caused sparks from the floor tray because his ride height was too low and no air managed to go under his car which caused a lack of downforce
@@vxvx7560 How do you explain then that the wheels does not move to the left. If you see the concrete wall coming would you not turn the car to the left ???
Everyone who claims that this was ANYTHING but steering wheel/column failure, if that was the case, then certainly Senna would have been able to turn the car atleast SOME degree to the left...but here he clearly couldnt, he went just STRAIGHT off the track, Senna clearly tried to turn the wheel all the way to left to no effect, so how can you tell me thats anything but the steering clearly broken?
The steering must be one of the causes. But, seeing now after 30 years and have seeing a lot of crashes, when the feont of the car loses its downforce (by a missing front wing, broken rear suspension or even a flat rear tire), the front of the car goes up and there is nothing the driver can do. See Alboreto crash in the same curve. But i agree that the main factor was the steering because of the yellow button analysis.
I'm surprised that Williams engineers didn't make the decision to machine a new steering column with new dimensions after the trial fit and Senna's approval.
0:32 and 3:04 - Lateral G-force drops to 0.3, the exact moment the car is no longer steering. Senna’s head enters the frame, as he was leaning left to resist the G-forces affecting him only moments prior.
wouldnt his head be slammed forward when he slammed on the breaks though? or.... if he slammed on the breaks that would show up in lateral g force? ... i read he did over 4 g's of breaking before hitting the wall. slowing 60-70 mph from his top speed. Also, ironically.. i saw somewhere a high resolution video from the following car... exactly when senna starts to go straight (instead of continuing the turn) his car bottoms out on the bumps of the new patched track.... I think he bottomed out and the force further cracked his column (through the trial they showed that there was indeed a stress fracture in his column)..
@@juniormencia2114 Well, if its completely off the ground, how can it generate -4g deceleration. You understand that in order to stop properly, the tires need to have good grip with the track. You can see on the the blue figure to the right that the longitudinal gforce goes to -3 and then -4 g´s very quickly after the lateral g force goes to 0. And I would really like to know how do you achieve this with a car which is supposedly off the ground. If the car really lost grip, it would not slow down that fast. Its really impossible.
After all this years and a tremendous amount of videos watched, I still had a doubt about the bumpy track, that may have caused the incident. But I think this video is conclusive, you can clearly see he’s trying his best at the very end to make the car turn left, but the tire just doesn’t move.
I was like that too but there IS a high def video i saw of right when he loses control on the bumps a bunch of sparks flying out underneath ... he bottomed out... did the bottoming out help break his cracked steering column? who knows
@@mitchwood6609 you literally see sparks coming out of Tamburello every time, in practice sessions, in quali sessions, and even in Lap 6 because the track was very bumpy, the bottoming out theory is completely bullshit
At the very last seconds of the 10x slowed video, you can clearly see his last movement of the helmet, bending and turning to the left. Like he was trying to look at the exit point of the Tamburello curve. Undoubtedly, it was a reflex, any of us, normal drivers, would perform, when all hope for a left steer had gone. Professional drivers are taught, as I heard, to look toward the exit point of the curves, although forces, acting upon the vehicle, are pointing the vehicle toward an undesired destination. It is natural way of body preparing for impact. What a tragedy. Dear Senna, may you enjoy your heavenly rides as you enjoyed Earth ones!🙏
What an amount of bullshits in the comment section. Nelson Piquet (three times world champion) said: "He went immediately on the brakes. An experienced driver, when an accident is going to happen, tries to understand where the problem comes from before braking, in order to correct the car. If a driver goes immediately on the brakes it means only one thing: no steering".
@@Espxce That's a lie spread to protect the Williams team. Even if it was an aero problem, he still should have been able to turn to some degree. He wasted able at all.
It's amazing the more you watch this. That box gets bigger at the end, which means the car isn't turning left, even though Senna is trying to steer. Add to the G force going from 2.0 to 0.5 as soon as the car immediately goes straight on, says to me there's no steering going on.
That steering wheel column must be made from pasta. The yellow dot disappears completely from the view if the camera view. The biggest coverup in motor racing history and it proves 100% that money always wins.
@@Showmetheevidence- Kid,you need to learn a lot about life yet. You're another sheep for the rich people "eat" if they need to,if they did this with Senna,imagine what they' would do with you. There is another video here on youtube of this crash in 4k where you can clearly see the tyres go straight till the crash,they dont even move after the yellow dot disappears. Plus,its easy for Williams team to claim anything after they disappear with the blackbox for several days and delete parts of the POV camera and audio from radio and computer data from that day in the final seconds of Senna's life. You have to be a completely naive idiot to believe in their version of the history,not even italian justice believes anymore cuz Williams team was blamed for Senna's death in 2003 in a final decision. Even the italian Supreme Court rejected an appeal by Williams technical director Patrick Head to be fully cleared of the manslaughter of Senna.
For the youngest viewing that onboard video you should know it was released one year after the accident, they previously stated it was lost or that there wasn't any onboard footage from Senna's car...and the cover up continues because several seconds of footage have bee cut.
Yea i always wondered, why would the video cut out at exactly that moment. Weird isn't it. I mean you can clearly see that the car just goes straight on in this footage, but i'm pretty sure if the footage went on until the impact, there wouldn't be any questions left. It's just a big cover up and FIA and Williams think people will just forget about it, but i will never. Some people should have been jailed.
Some years ago an agency did a gilette's ad of Ayrton and they asked FOM all the footage about his career. They found out that the extended onboard footage still exists.
the mechanic that welded the steering column that day knows the truth. I surely wanted to hear him how he feels for sending an ace to death unwillingly ofc.
Vagelis Komninos The column wasn’t welded it would likely have been milled. It would have been a mistake nobody could have caught and obviously didn’t.
@@MrJr1976 It was welded. There's footage of it. They cut the steering column and put a slightly thinner piece of metal/steel into both ends of the original column and welded it on both sides to make it longer.
THE STEERING WHEELS WENT TOWARDS SENNA , SENNA TRYED TO TURN LEFT , BUT THE CAR DIDN'T TURN , THAT CAR WENT AGAINST THE WALL ,THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE THE STEERING BROKE .
No. Almost sure this has nothing to do with it. He gets uncunscious the moment he stops turning.. Notice how his head leans to the left just as he stops turning. Wheels and steering has nothing to do with the accident I'm sure
Aero has nothing to do with him turning the steering wheel and the front wheels not coordinating with Sennas inputs. You can see at the last frames of the video, Senna is steering to the left, (with the steering wheel already flapping about, because it's coming apart) the front wheels aren't doing the same as his inputs and the car hits near zero G force, indicating unresponsive steering.
No question, when you begin to see his helmet at 3:05, on the slow mo. come into the frame, he is literally leaning into the corner, trying to will the car to turn. He had a tremendous spirit and will to achieve, he will always be remembered as a great!
@@TheWestAspen ? Mate what are you talking about.?? i suggest you know what your talking about before telling others that shit. when you go left the GForce pushes your head to the outside. (the right) and vice versa... His head goes left because one second he is pushing his head against roughly 2-3 lateral Gs (pushing him to the outside) to a split second later virtually no lateral GForce. resulting in his head going left. its a good indication that the steering column did in fact instantly sheer off.
Hey rookie, I might agree with your analysis if the car sharply veered to the right, but the truth is it did not, it went straight off. I'm pretty sure we both agree that the steering column broke and that was the cause of the accident, and his untimely death vs. him correcting the back end stepping out... My comment about him leaning into the corner to will the car to turn when it won't is speculation, no question. As an open wheel racing driver myself, I can imagine how any driver would lean away from a pending impact. He was a great, if not the greatest of all time, and I will remember him as so..... Too bad you are the one posting to create drama to a simple comment.... @@ryanflood635
A driver hits the brakes only when they can’t steer the car. Not just due to them wanting to save the whole thing but also due to muscle memory, it is almost instinctive. Therefore, Senna hitting the brakes definitely points to a steering column failure. Let’s not forget that DC had a similar accident in testing.
To me it’s more likely he lost the rear grip because you see the car increasing the yaw rate to the left that’s very clear then he corrected it to the right then left again but there was not enough grip so he decided to brake hard and move the steering left then back to center then left and again back to center to squeeze the most of the grip possible but it wasn’t enough to save it. Also the telemetry shows normal force on the steering. If it broke the sensor would read almost zero before he went off track. I don’t exclude your conclusions but they seem unlikely. It doesn’t mean Senna did something wrong. It was a situation where it’s impossible to recover.
@@rotorblade9508 I read the sensor was located in the steering wheel itself so it would have shown some data regardless of connection, or not.....the steel pipe did have a stress fracture on a "tooling mark"... The footage was cut off by the camera crew to switch to another car... as stated in criminal italian court. The steering column broke when the car struck the bumpy ground, possibly. There's a high resolution video from the car behind senna i've seen that shows the sparks as senna fails to turn left. it happened so fast. I'm kinda torn on it. it COULD HAVE BEEN driver error. it COULD HAVE BEEN steering failure. it COULD HAVE BEEN loss of front end grip after bouncing, or rear.. it COULD have been all of these combined or a couple.. or just one of them... such a fine edge of competition in a dangerous sport at that time. I just wish he would of had a halo... but i digress.
How Williams got away with this is unbelievable. Looks like the Steering Shaft broke when it went over the resurfaced patch of bitumen around Tamburello.
That can be true but i believe it was a bad luck. If you pay attention for the yellow button at the final instant he bring back the steering wheel what it looks like he felt the rear end escaping, but at the same instant he bring back the steering wheel the car passes trough a curling and then the front tires wasn't touching the ground until the -7g force (you can see this on the telemetry, that is the front tires touching the ground) but it was late for him. The car didn't have space enough to brake safely and the Senna hit the concrete wall, but we will never know the truth from this weekend. (Sorry for bad english :v)
Complete confirmation to me. In fact, this thing about Senna correcting oversteer isn't right either. He knows something isn't right and he steers the car on purpose, at the middle of the corner, which is when the car is doing 3G after the first major bump. It's an easy corner and was more like a curved straight. After that, he turns the wheel straight slightly, then the steering column completely fails and then watch the box actually enlarge, indicating the wheels are going straight on, even with the steering wheel moving all over the place, the car staying at near zero G force.
The Italian supreme court decided that the accident was caused by the broken steering wheel, and that Patrick Head (Williams technical director) was responsible for the steering wheel modification poorly designed and badly executed. Due to the fact that the Italian statute of limitations was expired, Patrick Head could not have been sent to jail.
@@Showmetheevidence- we are just sheeps for the rich people "eat" if they need to,if they did this with Senna,imagine what they' would do with us. There is another video here on youtube of this crash in 4k where you can clearly see the tyres go straight till the crash,they dont even move after the yellow dot disappears. Plus,its easy for Williams team to claim anything after they disappear with the blackbox for several days and delete parts of the POV camera and audio from radio and computer data from that day in the final seconds of Senna's life. You have to be a completely naive idiot to believe in their version of the history,not even italian justice believes anymore cuz Williams team was blamed for Senna's death in 2003 in a final decision. Even the italian Supreme Court rejected an appeal by Williams technical director Patrick Head to be fully cleared of the manslaughter of Senna.
Note que em razão da velocidade, na entrada da curva, não era necessário nem tanto esterçamento da direção. Pois a bolinha amarela nem chega à desaparecer da imagem, e o carro curva normalmente. Mas perceba que, dentro da Tamburello, quando o carro sai de traseira, Senna corrige a tragetória fazendo a bolinha amarela aparecer, mas logo em seguida, ao notar algo errado, comanda o volante para a esquerda por três vezes, fazendo a bolinha amarela desaparecer totalmente para a esquerda e reaparecer novamente, subindo e descendo, mas as rodas não respondem e seguem retas.. Este vídeo é o único no you tube no qual você consegue perceber isto nos momentos finais. Se a direção estivesse funcionando, esse movimento para a esquerda seria mais do que suficiente para trazer o carro de volta para a pista. No máximo ele sairia de lado sem bater frontalmente. E o que será que a Willians quis esconder ao apagar os minutos finais da gravação ??? A perícia técnica oficial estava certa. A coluna quebrou.
A coluna quebrou na solda, e o carro bateu num ângulo meio que de quina com o muro, nem de frente e nem de lado, o problema foi o braço da suspensão dianteira ter atingido o capacete e penetrado na testa dele, foi isso que o matou efetivamente. Isso aconteceu principalmente por não haver nada naquele muro, nem uma proteção sequer de pneus.
Acho que você não viu o vídeo como a maioria dos alienados fãs do senna que não são fãs, ela já estava morto antes da curva, sua cabeça mexe de forma involuntária, não há frenagem e nem mudança de direção.
VISIVELMENTE ELE INCLINA A CABECA PARA TENTAR FAZER A CURVA MAS NAO TEM RESPOSTA, ISSO TUDO EM MILÉSIMOS SEGUNDOS. O MELHOR DE TODOS OS PILOTOS. MUNDO LAMENTA.
just look at the helmet on last seconds... when u turn left on a long curve your body can react the steer the wheel and the head..as u can see senna try to turn the wheel on left the steer go left but the tire dont respond.. you dont need to be genius to solve this tragedy the answer simply the steer is broke...
The steering column breaking is a plausible cause but I think it was caused by the bumps in the road hitting the underside of the FW16 and restricting downforce and if you watched the start there was a crash that involved Pedro Lamy as well JJ Leyto I think which deployed the safety car and caused the tyres to cool and possibly lose pressure which may result in reduced ride height
100,000% steering shaft defective/sheared. Williams should of been held accountable for murder. But the powers that be fia let them off to keep the show going and the money coming in. As for the tyre theory yes the tyre might not be at full operating temperture but what they claim is total bs.
Senna did the second fastest lap of the whole race the lap prior, which not even Senna could do if tire pressures were too low. The FIA did not decide the trial btw and murder is when you do kill on purpose which does not apply here anyway.
It is obvious the steering wheel shaft broke. The yellow dot completely disappears while the tire goes straight. The dot makes it seems inevitable what happened.
Michael Pollock It did not break, his car has caused sparks from the floor tray because his ride height was too low and no air managed to go under his car which caused a lack of downforce
The movement of his wheel, the movement of his head, the movement on Damon's wheel in the same turn all point to the same thing. But with proper justice, his skills are to blame. Point is he wouldn't have wanted anyone behind bars anyway. That's the kind of man he was. Thanks for the clip, man.
I think its pretty clear the rear of the car startes stepping out @0:29, and as soon as he starts to countrsteer hard into the skid, the steering column lets go and the button starts moving everywhere while the tires and car head dead straight.
@@flatoutflatline1565 it's not oversteering. The car goes over a bump and the car grounds and resets its position on the road. Every car on the track behaved similarly and took that corner at full speed. Yet one car couldn't take a slight corner flat out, despite it having more downforce than the worst cars? Even the Pacific could take it flat out. You need to research this, before coming out with false statements.
@@weallfollowmanutd if you look at the car it suddenly moves closer to the kerb senna then Corrects this and unfortunately heads straight into the wall as he doesn't have enough time to stop
@@flatoutflatline1565 it's not a correction. It's Senna checking the steering, as he knows something is failing. He then steers again and the car is unresponsive because the steering has failed at goes straight. There's no way the car would just snap oversteer like that on an easy flat out curve, that used to be classed as a straight. As Nelson Piquet said, the only reason why Senna stamped on the brakes, was because he realised the steering failed.
@@rakshan769the mod was at Senna's insistence, but the mod itself was completely bodged. Williams should also have refused Senna's request in the first place.
Segun se sabe Senna se quejaba de lo pequeño del habitáculo, y las medidas eran similares a las del McClaren, pero el volante estaba un poco mas bajo y ese detalle le molestaba. Al final hicieron la modificación, pero con una calidad que no se explica.
It's amazing how even if you provide a video as a proof, with markers to help the not so bright ones among us, where people can see with their own eyes, there are still plenty of bone headed people that will state otherwise. The steering column clearly broke - you can see the yellow button on the steering wheel is completely misplaced just before Tamburello. So does the button just wander around his steering wheel? No, it's a clear indication the whole steering rack was misplaced. You can see clearly at some point he's a passenger and the car just goes straight. Even more so - you can see at the moment he's in Tamburello, the aligning torque of the wheels takes over and the wheels go bang on straight while he's still trying to steer. Even the excuses from Williams team about the last seconds before hitting the wall onboard footage being corrupted or lost in some other manner are laughable. And still people hold on to the naive kids official reason - bottoming out and cold tyres. Sure, all the other drivers with less skill got thru well and good, but Senna obviously wasn't experienced enough to notice his tyres weren't up to temp. Get real people...
It wasn't the steering rack that was loose it was actually the steering column someone made an adjustment to it before the race however they welded in a 18 mm piece instead of the 22 mm piece wich the williams steering shaft was made from but it must've been a horrible experience for senna knowing that there is nothing he can do
The fact that the cause of the crash is still debated and disputed today says a lot. You get real. The Italians had as much yo hide as Williams...People forget that
@@biscuitcase83 You're just refusing to see the obvious evidence. There's no debate anymore, apart from people like you who can't accept the facts. There's exactly zero evidence supporting the cold tyres bottoming out oversteer theory and an overwhelming amount of evidence for the steering column breaking/failing... Why can't people like you see and understand it, I will never know.
@@hristoitchov I personally do agree the column broke but I wouldn't state it 100% If you read carefully im saying I do not believe the column failure was the only problem and that there are other factors involved, including the bottoming out and the problems with the Williams' stability. I do think there were multiple things that contributed and it just isn't as simple. There is a lot the Italians didn't want attention on, including the safety issues already known at Tamburello Do you get what I mean?
The steering column broke when the car struck the ground on the bump where the track had been resurfaced. Senna weaving from side to side to get heat into his tyres behind the pace car, weakened the weld. The onboard footage was cut off at that point to not show the missing steering wheel. Cover up.
but the weld didn't break homie, the steel pipe did, stress fracture. The footage was cut off by the camera crew to switch to another car... as stated in criminal italian court. The steering column broke when the car struck the bumpy ground. There's a high resolution video from the car behind senna i've seen that shows the sparks as senna fails to turn left. it happened so fast. I'm kinda torn on it. it COULD HAVE BEEN driver error. it COULD HAVE BEEN steering failure. it COULD HAVE BEEN loss of front end grip after bouncing. it COULD have been all of these combined or a couple.. or just one of them... such a fine edge of competition in a dangerous sport at that time. I just wish he would of had a halo... but i digress.
@@mitchwood6609 are you aware that the onboard footage that was shown to the court, was of a different length than that which TV Globo got straight after the crash? If it was just a simple camera switch as you say, both versions of the tape would’ve been the exact same length. The implications to proving that column snapped would’ve been catastrophic to the Williams management and GP racing in Italy. No team owners would’ve ever entered another race in that country for fear of ending up in jail. It’s far too much of a coincidence that a director cut away from Senna, at the EXACT moment his car started to veer off the track. You believe what you want man, but something doesn’t add up to me.
@@mitchwood6609 100% the column broke at the weld. The Williams team even confirmed this as do photographs. They did say the column broke on impact with the wall though and not before.
In the National Geographic they said Steering column is out of the question because record says that force was applied to steering... YE! At the driving wheel! That fact they provided alongside Senna's car trajectory and apparent wheel motion suggest column break
forget the behaviour of the car grounding, the fact senna is putting in lots of steering movements near the end of the footage and the front wheel is going straighter is very conclusive. You can blame the handling all day long, but the box is getting bigger right at the end, which means the front wheels are straightening when Senna is clearly using tons of movement on the steering wheel. This isn't anything to do with bad handling. This oversteer theory is outlandish. He checked the steering one final time because just before the final asphalt change because he knew something was wrong, then the steering column fully came apart. The car was grounding and changing grip over big bumps, giving the impression it was oversteering. That car had lots of downforce and would never snap out on such an easy corner like that. Every car was capable of full throttle there in 94. In 1981 no one lifted there, apart from wet conditions. There were far more challenging corners that season.
Clearly you can see The front wheel don't turn to left side.... And the yellow dot in the panel of the cokcrit desapeare.... Simple thing.... That was the failure of the steering stick....every body knows that also the bumps of the track can be another cause of the failure of Sennas Carr.... Is a sad video..... RIP Senna... 🏁🏁🏁
in another video you can see the sparks fly out underneath his car right when he begins to go straight.. I think the bumps broke his already cracked steering column ..
I think there were a multitude of issues here. One being low pressures and the bumpy circuit. The onboard on Schumacher's car shows Senna's car sparking heavily right before the car veers to the right. Can't deny the steering was not moving for the corner though.
The column broken. It's only trutg. They (FIA) should be honest. the crime has already been prescribed. Where are the images next to the fatal impact ?
O que aconteceu parece claro com a telemetria. A força lateral vai aumentando conforme ele se aproxima do apex da curva, e a força longitudinal é pouco maior que zero-g (como a velocidade já estava próxima do máximo, a aceleração era pequena). De repente a força lateral cai a zero (o carro para de dobrar) e a aceleração negativa vai rapidamente a menos 3 e depois a menos 4g (freada súbita forte). É totalmente consistente com a quebra da coluna de direção no meio da curva e pouco consistente com qualquer outra explicação. Uma perda súbita de aderência por causa de um bump na pista ou de um erro de projeto não afetaria as quatro rodas por igual, e o carro bambearia pra lá e pra cá enquanto o piloto tenta recuperar a aderência. Além disso, nenhum piloto pisaria forte no freio por causa da perda de aderência, porque isso significaria perder o controle quando a aderência volta. Ele tiraria o pé do acelerador mas não totalmente e pisaria de novo, parecido com o que se faz numa aquaplanagem. Se ele freou forte é porque sabia que não tinha como recuperar o controle e a única intenção era diminuir a velocidade do impacto. Parece complexo demais pra uma fração de segundo mas não é, pra um piloto tudo isso é automático.
Tem sujeira nesse acidente fatal de Senna, muito estranho o restante da imagem desaparecer antes da batida, até parece que já sabiam o que iria acontecer, lamentável...
he was pushing his head against the lateral geforces of tamburello. whe the steering column broke, there was suddenly no more lateral geforce so senna pushed his head against thin air at that point. thats why his head tilts left suddenly.
Thank you so much for the video. It leaves no doubt about what really happened. Steering column failure. F1 for me was over on that day. I couldn't watch a race after that. It's only now that I'm trying to whatch the sport as i used to 20 some years ago.
Williams welded the steering column earlier in the day the weld came undone hence no steering and crash , what o don’t understand is how they got away with it in court
Good question, I read somewhere that Williams had the car right after the accident to do some analysis, I bet they changed the steering column, for one that wasn‘t welded. Only speculation tho
In Australia you are not allowed to weld to any steering components like rack ends or shafts on a car if you wish to modify a street liscenced car, it just seems silly that that was done to a F1 car surely they could afford to make a new one to required length
se rompe la dirección, muy claro se ve, en el ultimo momento ya que anterior a la rotura el auto que viene pegado a la línea derecha pasa a la izquierda levemente el piloto va acomodando el monoplaza y de repente no responde es algo muy obvio
Yeah I don't think it's the ground effects because all four sides of the bottom have to touch the ground and f one that's very hard to do. The steering column broke the front left wheel did not turn at all it was a cover-up because they welded the steering column to accommodate his needs.
It did not break, his car has caused sparks from the floor tray because his ride height was too low and no air managed to go under his car which caused a lack of downforce
I read the sensor was located in the steering wheel itself so it would have shown some data regardless of connection, or not.....the steel pipe did have a stress fracture on a "tooling mark". According to the court.. The footage was cut off by the camera crew to switch to another car... as stated in criminal italian court. The steering column broke when the car struck the bumpy ground, possibly. There's a high resolution video from the car behind senna i've seen that shows the sparks as senna fails to turn left. it happened so fast. I'm kinda torn on it. it COULD HAVE BEEN driver error. it COULD HAVE BEEN steering failure. it COULD HAVE BEEN loss of front end grip after bouncing, or rear.. it COULD have been all of these combined or a couple.. or just one of them... such a fine edge of competition in a dangerous sport at that time. I just wish he would of had a halo... but i digress.
Another thing to realize is that the green light of the direction keeps going to the left before and when the seine loses control it is going to one side and the other as if the seine was not dominated anymore the direction if it was playing to the left and the bar had broken the green light would be going to the left since supposedly the sena would be turning to the left and the breaking of the supposed bar just wouldn't turn the wheel but notice that it is out of control the light goes left and right and the senna's head goes back and forth showing that he is not conscious. thanks again!
He was taking a tight line into that last bit to maintain a gap. You can see from a slight snaking that a problem starts 2 seconds or so earlier. Id like to see a previous lap footage comparison..to see where the yellow steering wheel button positions are 2 seconds out, to the moment the car got that slight oversteer. These are my four options or a combination of. 1. the bumps upset the car, car was set too low with a full tank. 2. Went over debris which caused the car to oversteer 3. Tyre hit debris and deflated 4. Steering column was getting weaker through the bend and the bumps caused the final failure, hence we see an instinctive correction by Senna and the yellow marker disappears to the left.
Number 1 is pratically what said NatGeo in their reportage Which is ridicolous, n. 2 At that speed At that corner There are no oversteer possibile and no debris were in track at that moment, n.3 if a tyre deflated the car wouldn't go on a perfect straight line like in ayrton case, plus from tv footage we can see that tyres were allright, n. 4 is The only possible explanation, The steering Was moving in unatural way, in tamburello bumpy section broke causing the car To go on a straight Line, poor job on The steering wheel column Done by williams, this negligence cost senna's death. We miss You Ayrton
@@precky6108 wouldnt count anything out. Senna always instinctively when to brake after losing a car. We saw him do that in 93. The car was set extremely low. This was an even faster entrance to tamborello compared to previous lap. He went over debris just beforehand. The steering wheel really did have alot of play. I do think this is more likely cause, altho williams insist data shows steering worked at time of crash
Johan Burger the sparks mean nothing, its just the car bottoming out, if there were sparks while Senna was turning, I would Maby agree that the dampers broke or it was to low, but there were no sparks at all during the crash...
You can see by how the image moves while he turns at some point there is a sudden yaw to the left so a steering column break wouldn’t do that it would make the car turn to the right first
It did that then just before when Senna has the wheel moving around dramatically in his hands, the box gets bigger, at the same position it would be on the straight. It's utterly clear to me the front wheels are responding different to the steering wheel
Essa imagens nos causa um trauma insuperável, Senna movimenta a cabeça para a esquerda como se quisesse seguir seu curso da curva. Acredito que Senna levou um certo tempo para Senna entender o que estava acontecendo com ele, Senna não teve tempo de acionar ou reduzir sua willians.
É complicado de pensar, até por que o Senna teve muitas corridas com o carro com problemas e, mesmo assim, o fez com maestria. Talvez fosse o caso, ele seguiu a notar o problema e continuava. Mas ele diminuiu 3 marchas e baixou de 300 para 220km/h na colisao.
The column steer had broken due a trash engineering job made by Williams, that welded it days before, to solve a problem (shortened the column), without time, project, tension's alivium, etc.. So, the column pieces welded rolled loose ...Patrick Head and Williams know pretty sure why Senna is not alive anymore.
@@mitchwood6609 whatever Mitch... but I saw the column's microscope structure photos and Williams did not treat the welding. Why not?! They were betting against Tamburello forces?! Fuck off criminal Williams! Fuck off F1! Now we have idiots seated on eletronic toys, manipulated by globalists billionaires, posing as real pilots.
@@GuilhermeDinizLZ what?? you're incoherent. you have microscopic photos of the steering column or know where they are?? proof's in the pudding homie... i think ur full of BS. none of this has anything to do with modern f1... it's about loss of life and what caused it. go fuck urself and show me some photos or shut up
@@mitchwood6609 my friend, how old are you? Did you close to 50'? Did ever saw Senna piloting live? So you did, are you a Brazilian? Are you a mechanical engineering? Ok, that's me! And I did not call you bad words! I knew what real F1 sport was and compare to pó-senna era till now! But, despite your bad words and naievety I'll try to find the magazine of the time of Senna's death and give the images.
@@GuilhermeDinizLZ Thanks for your words! I wish that Brazilian government could do something about it. I'm younger and new to the specifics of this case, but it seems too clear that those Williams douchebags and company are responsible for manslaughter of Senna AND covering the evidence. May Sir Williams rot in hell
from another video the you can see sparks at that exact moment from underneath. he bottomed out hard. I think it finished off the cracked steering column
@@paulocapelas2881 the car was squirrely ... his doctor friend said he watched him drive by 10 seconds before his crash and told his friend that the car was riding like shit.. when the red flag went out he knew it was his friend! simply by watching before hand it was obvious it wasn't driving right.
3:08 The increase in lateral G-forces from 0.06 to 0.54 is evidence that the steering is working. I imagine that the sudden change in grip of the rear tires caused the front tires to lose grip. Senna can hear even the faintest noises from the engine, so there's no way it wouldn't notice something wrong with the steering.
They tried to do this to cover Williams teams liability. They went so far as to get David Coulthard to say the steering column was designed to telescope around as opposed to being solidly mounted as they typically are in every car ever made. A total farce.
@@jamesstewart1794 Yea i've seen that video with Coulthard sitting in the car pulling at the steering wheel. Who would really believe that it was designed that way? If the steering wheel could move around like that, especially with the G forces in an F1 car, the driver wouldn't have any feeling for the car whatsoever.
@@Nisie23 WELL WTF DO YOU KNOW THEN... DID HIS STEERING COLUMN BREAK FROM A BAD WELD? what happened? did he hit the bump too hard? don't talk to me like a kid
Esa camara iba conectada a la electricidad del vehiculo? Porque si era asi hay que recordar que la direccion era electronica, fijese antes del impacto, la camara se distorsiona, y a traves del espejo se ve como Ayrton inclina la cabeza con mayor fuerza hacia el lado que intenta doblar, como si la direccion no respondiese o estaria dura.
In 2003, however, the Supreme court overturned those rulings and ordered Head and Newey be retried The Brazilian driver died of massive head injuries soon after the start of the San Marino Grand Prix on May 4, 1994. His Williams car shot straight off the track at the high-speed Tamburello bend, hitting a concrete wall at an estimated 220 kph. The prosecution's charges were based on a forensic inquiry which suggested that Senna's car came off the track because his steering column snapped. This was said to have been the result of a faulty weld two weeks before the race, when the car was modified to make the driver more comfortable. Think this shows patrick head and williams are to blame even though they wont admit it
É incrível como acham que mataram ele antes de bater.... Sua cabeça vai pro lado pq ele desacelerou e reduziu marchas bruscamente tentando freiar o máximo
Na verdade o carro estava baixo por causa o tanque cheio, pneus frios por causa do safety car. Ele chinelou no acelerador, perdeu aderência das rodas. Por isso ele demora muito para apertar os freios. Quando da aderência ele inicia a frenagem, infelizmente fim … existiam problemas no projeto do carro também. Mas é difícil apontar um culpado, mesmo sendo o melhor da história ele pode ter errado também, não estava bem psicologicamente nesse dia, pressão por resultados e os acidentes anteriores. Usando simuladores de fórmula 1, com tanque cheio, carro baixo e pneus frios acelerando ao máximo é praticamente impossível fazer essa curva.
@@robet478 Não aquece tão rápido assim. Se voce assistir a corrida vai notar que está saindo uma quantidade absurda de faiscas da williams do Senna. Isso significa que o carro estava muito baixo, a ponto de interromper a passagem de ar por baixo do caro, fazendo com que toda aerodinamica do carro comprometida. O carro também sai de traseira, antes dá batida. Diversos sinais de descontrole do carro. Tem uma peça no eixo da suspensão da frente que está mexendo, isso prova que a direção não estava quebrada. Pela telemetria ayrton demora para freiar o carro justamente por não estar com aderencia, assim que o carro pega aderencia ele diminui drasticamente a velocidade antes da batida.
the last time we see the yellow button, just a frame or two before the end of the video, it could possibly be the RIGHT button and not the left one shown before. It could be that the steering wheel was already turning more than 90 degrees to the left. Creepy.
There are two more videos showing Senna focusing specifically on the steering column side, which means he is uncomfortable with the changes on the steering column side. As the Italian prosecutor's office stated in its decision, the worn steering shaft caused his death. In addition, there were no traces of the FW16 braking on the asphalt, because even the brake pedal did not work. The black box in which the vehicle's data was collected had disappeared, and when it was found, it was useless. Against all these incidents, all members of the Williams team, especially Damon Hill, Patrick Head and Adrian Newey, used expressions such as "I don't know, I don't remember, I forgot" at the prosecutor's office. As if Senna had never raced for the Williams team... In the video in the link below, while Senna is talking about the mechanical inconsistencies of the vehicle, the indifferent attitude of the engineers as if they do not know anything explains the issue. As a matter of fact, the Italian prosecutor's office found Patrick Head guilty of first degree; But since the case was time-barred, no penalty was imposed. Here is our loss of Senna and a story of justice... th-cam.com/video/XwQKKLyqZm8/w-d-xo.html
Few things i noticed. By the way the Pilotissimi banner goes up and down in the final moments it is evident that the car jolted like mad. Another thing to notice is that some moments before the car started moving off the track (approx. 11.30 on the telemetry timer) a moment of oversteering is observable by the kerb line rapidly getting lower frame by frame right when the car is running over the patch directly after passing the Kronenburg banner. Senna is then seen making a correction move. The last thing worth mentioning is that at 11.60 through 11.62 - after the onset of the understeering - the opening between the wheel and the front wing is even wider than it had been at the middle of the Tamburello. Actually this the only time in the video that the turning is even noticeable.
Se notarmos outros acidentes na Tamburello, antes de 94, dá pra observar que os carros saem retos, não fazem a curva. Com Senna, infelizmente foi trágico
Tem sujeira nesse acidente fatal de Senna, muito estranho o restante da imagem desaparecer antes da batida, até parece que já sabiam o que iria acontecer, lamentável...
We'll never know, the only sure thing is that that wall couldn't be removed because of small river flowing behind it. That's the reason why they put a double curve there now to force the cars to slow down and to not reach anymore 300km/h while steering in front of that wall. Btw formula doesn't even race anymore at Imola.
Exactly. The oversteer didn't cause the crash, the correction finally broke the already badly fatigued steel, when the car is at full load on the wings.
Ho visto l’incidente di James Inchliffe in indycar. Inchliffe perde il controllo e tenta di correggere con lo sterzo, si vede chiaramente la gomma girare verso sinistra. Nel caso di Senna e di questo frammento di onboard si vede chiaramente ayrton che tenta in tutti i modi di sterzare a sinistra ma la gomma rimane dritta. Si è rotto il piantone dello sterzo ed è ovvia come conclusione.
I think even clearer, is all that movement on the steering wheel in the last few seconds of the video, you can see the front wheel box get bigger, not smaller which means the front wheels are going straight.
@@weallfollowmanutd its pretty clear aswell when you see him leaning with his head into the corner, and it suddenly comes into frame right as the car goes straight, hes still trying to make the corner and turn the wheel but he cant
Há muitas mentiras escondidas até hoje. No vídeo há o momento em que ele enclina a cabeça pra esquerda por que já estava como que alguma coisa aconteceu antes de bater no muro. O senna jamais erraria uma curva dessa .
Exacto, o facto da cabeça ter ido para esquerda quando a curva obriga pela fisica a ir pela direita (devido às forças G’s) significa que alguma coisa partiu (a direção muito provavelmente) O que não se entende é o porquê da williams esconder e ainda criar teorias do que se passou, sabendo que eles tinham a caixa negra do carro antes de a mesma ser utilizada como prova em tribunal...
Good analysis .. How we can see the angle of the tyre don't change in the same misure tha the traiectory, and this signified that the steering column was still not bamnaged at the moment where the car slow straight. Thw Williams simply loosed the ground grip by the big bump like we can see by the Michael on board in the same moment where edmit a huge quantity of sparks by the belowe of the car.
Guys excuse my ignorance but what I could see is that the sena clearly goes out as if it had a bad subto notice that your head falls to the left and goes back and forth when the car reaches 310 kh then the car decelerates because he is no longer accelerating since he is senseless if you notice well and take a break notice that in a moment your eyes are seen by the rear view mirror and are closed as if it had gone out hears an accident similar to another Brazilian felipe massa where a piece of rubens barriquelo's car fuses and picks up his jacket notice that F. mass continues straight on the curve and the car decelerates due to lack of acceleration since he was senseless in my opinion the sena had a bad tip too and if it lost direction why not brake? if you don't see wheels locking, notice in the accident of Piquet where he brakes the car because a rear suspicion breaks the brake because the car spun and he hit the wall sideways, mitigating the fatality senna passes, the senna car's wheels never lock again. my humble opinion sorry for the ignorance
Idk if anybody knew that why on his partner car this thing about the broke of the steering wheel didn't happened? I so strange and I don't think is a coincidence.
@@fabianmacarie2335 So, there's something you need to understand. Metal fatigue is a thing. If you move any material around enough, it eventually breaks. In racing, where you use everything to its maximum, this happens all the time. No metal is exactly the same, so it can break at different times and doing different things. Senna's steering column was made even weaker because of how it was made longer. Welded metal is not as strong as continuous metal, to start with. The smaller piece of tube Williams used to extend the steering column is also, in general, weaker than the larger piece of tube the rest of the steering column used. Put all of this together, and the steering column breaks.
If we watch the video with the last bends before the crash, we can see in Senna's head movements can see that he feel someting was very wrong. First he look down and to front of the car. But he tries to continue. Seconds before the crash he feels he can't stop the car and he turns the neck for the left because he feel that someting bad gonna hapens. In that second he knew. I'm gonna crash!
Um veredicto de um tribunal italiano, diz que a coluna de direção foi mal projetada, e quebrou. Um engenheiro da equipe, foi condenado por omissão. A coluna de direção do FW16, havia sido modificada com solda. E Senna queria mais espaço entre o painel, e suas mãos ao volante. ______________________________ O também tri-campeão mundial Nelson Piquet, também em um Williams, bateu forte nessa mesma curva Tamburello, na temporada '1987. Neste, o Williams de Piquet girou. Piquet disse que sentiu o muro na nuca Apesar da gravidade do impacto, ele sobreviveu, passou uns dias internado e voltou a tempo de conseguir o titulo no mesmo ano. Após Piquet, outros, também se acidentaram nessa curva. Tamburello era sinistra, empolgante, em que os carros passavam a mais de 300 km/h. Consta que por causa de um rio atrás, a parte de escape ficou muito pequena para tanta velocidade.
Analisando de forma fria( sem envolver sentimentos, o que é muito difícil para nos brasileiros), na minha opiniao, embasada pelo opiniao de Nelson Piquet em entrevista ao programa Roda Viva, a suspensão traseira quebrou, levantando a parte dianteira, o que não permite o carro virar, pois não tem contrato com o solo. Os mais estudiosos sabem que Senna gostava de alcançar a maior velocidade com o monoposto e deixava o mais baixo possível em relação ao asfalto e frear atrasado( o que quase lhe custou a vida no GP da Alemanha de 1984). As ondulações de Imola, juntando a ausência dos equipamentos eletrónicos, contribuíram para a quebra da suspensao traseira, tirando o contato do carro com o chao. Senna percebe isso numa fração de segundos e começou a frear e reduzir três marchas, o que explica o capacete balançar três vezes para frente numa prova física de frenagem brusca, buscando na redução de marchas, diminuir a velocidade. Se fosse um problema de saúde ou tiro como muitos supõe, sua cabeça solta penderia para a direita, por causa da ação centrifuga da força G e não para a esquerda. Comparem com o acidente de Felipe Massa no GP da Hungria. Ele estava desacordado. Quanto a Senna a barra da direção quebrou com o impacto. Minha humilde opiniao. Mas respeito a opiniao de todos admirdorws deste incrível ser humano que passou entre nos e deixou muita saudade.
Uma pergunta que sempre ficou na minha cabeça é pq não tem marcas de pneu ocasionadas pela frenagem, a possibilidade da suspensão traseira ter quebrado explicaria isso, pois se isso aconteceu ele perdeu completamente os freios e tentou reduzir a velocidade apenas com o freio motor, explicando os vários movimentos da cabeça pra frente, ou seja, pra cada marcha reduzida um movimento pra frente... se ele tivesse freio nas rodas acho que a cabeça teria ido pra frente e permanecido.
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It did not break, his car has caused sparks from the floor tray because his ride height was too low and no air managed to go under his car which caused a lack of downforce
ThePixelRanger 4K no it did. Break. There were sparks in the laps before and in Training. But no loss of Control. One question: a loss of downforce does not leave the tyres straight. Why did they Go straight with no movement at all. If there was a loss of downforce we would see steering inputs, to try to Safe the care. No Input, exept of Breaking. And piquet Said, breaking in this Situation means no steering.
ThePixelRanger 4K that is no answer to my post! The tyres suddenly go straight with no reaction anymore. He was on the brakes immideately, and piquet said that this is a sign for a loss of steering. So again why do the tyres suffenly go straight with no reaction to steering inputs? And why did he go on the brakes staight away? Whith a loss of downforce, you do not go straight like this. When it was the ride height it should gained downforce again after it left the bump. It sparked only a short time. Loosing downforce with gaining it again should result in some reactions to steering but there wasnt a reaction. So again: why do the tyres go straight wirh no reaction to steering?
I often wondered if there was a trick steering system linked to the height of the front suspension, which was activated by moving the whole steering column assembly. Different positions/settings for different places on the track. If this was the case it would account for different steering position locations. I know this is very much clutching at straws but there seems to be more to this story than meets the eye. Clearly members of the Williams team have the very best idea of what happened. If only they would clarify. Its nearly impossible to ascertain what exactly happened which is such a shame.
no it was solid. it's simple. the steering shaft was only held by a rubber bushing.... so ... it's was movable to some degree normally.... but what people are saying is that this movement in the film is way out of normal.
There is a video where itbclearly shows the steering flexing, the yellow button on the steering wheel changing to odd postions. The damn steering column broke.
It is clear that at the minute 3:10 the yellow button that appears is the one from the RIGHT side of the steering wheel. His head was way more to the left trying to steer and he turned the wheel all the way. Sad. 😢
All the way through the replay, if you just look at the mirror, and only the mirror, you barely ever see Aryton's full viser but at 3.03 it comes in full view and stays there. He was gone by that point imo.
Yes, I also think so. They say a part of the holding of the tire hit his head. But on the contact to the wall you can see both right tires go straight up to the air and both left tires stay on the car. So what hit his head?
The suspension connected to right front tire is what struck him in the head. On impact that is the tire that pierced his helmet after being trapped between the wall and the car. What you mention is the aftermath -->2 wheels flying, but one of them had already caused a lethal blow. This was not covered by the world feed, as the camera position wasn't ideal plus the cameraman had followed the 'normal' line through the corner not anticipating someone going off at Tumburello as this has historically been a rare occurance. Many of the drivers have always said that in order for a car to off at that corner, something mechanically on the car must fail.
No he wasn't gone then ,that's absurd. He simply turned his head trying to make that curve. That's why the visor came into view. He died when he hit the wall.
Tbm acho Por que na análise do vídeo notasse Claramente q o pneu esquerdo não faz a curva nos momentos finais antes do choque do Senna no muro e tbm o desespero finais dele por não conseguir fazer a curva e lamentável de mais uma tragédia q poderia ter sido evitada pela própria willamys na época com o reforço da Barra com mais garantia o serviço não foi bom por que ser fosse Senna teria vivo até hoje
Sempre nas curvas Senna enclinava a cabeça e sempre foi para o lado da curva, eu imitava isso dele quando andava de carrinho de roleman, mas o que vcs nao perceberam é que ele para de enclinar a cabeça e enclina seu corpo pra frente e por duas vezes, e é ai que vc percebe que a solda da barra de direçao quebrou e o que ele tenta fazer é empurrar o volante para as barras partidas tente se encaixar ou dar atrito para que o carro nao vire bruscamente para a direita! conclusão: Morte= coluna de direção perfurou sua cabeça! Causa Raiz= solda da barra de direção rompeu pela imperfeição do asfalto e os pneus frios fez com que o carro perdeçe seu efeito de amortecer impactos, pois os pneus é parte integrante da absorviçao de impactos!
It's great to see we have so many f1 race engineers and race car accident analysis experts in the world today. Never realised it was such a popular job in both those fields. Still if I was an f1 driver today I'd feel very lucky with all you guys looking after me.
@@joaovianna7321 For starters my sarcasm should tell you I dont believe any of these people are analysts, so take your clever assed comment and stick it up your ass. Cool
Pelo amor de Deus! É claro que foi a barra de direção! Ele ficou com o volante na mão,quebrado,por isso corpo dele foi para o lado. A willians ou qualquer equipe jamais assumiria a culpa,pois seria um dinheiro catastrófico para reparar o erro ! O Bernie eclestone e o Frank willians sabem do que eles fizeram,mas como o Senna morreu,acabou!
Yes . Senna lose the car control at 310km/h because steering wheel broke. Ayrton must win this race and he must give the máximum. Williams team put a shit steering wheel...
Se fosse a barra de direção, eles não teriam levado e escondido o carro antes da investigação. Na minha opinião, foi premeditado e Senna foi vítima de assassinato. Foi o ano da inserção dos comandos eletrônicos e tudo é muito suspeito para a Williams, derrotada e humilhada por Senna por tantos anos consecutivos. O presidente da FIA também não gostou do posicionamento firme e desafiador de Senna em muitos momentos ao confrontar regras e ao liderar nesse ano uma associação de pilotos por mais segurança. Prost não competir nesse ano também foi suspeito.
na verdade senna era o único piloto que publicamente batia contra aquele sistema e era um calo no sapato de muita gente eles o perseguiam por isso dificultando as coisas para ele até que conseguiram
I read Newey's autobiography where he told about the event. He thought it was the steering collumn at first, but worked many years with Williams and by himself to get the truth. Even today, it's not very clear. Even the puncture theory has been thought.
Ele possivelmente morreu dentro do carro, a velocidade cai bruscamente e está caída me parece pela imagem que não foi por frenagem e sim por não estar mais acelerando e bruscamente ter parado de acelerar
da pra perceber como ele percebeu que ia bater, porque ele se inclina bastante pra esquerda...bastante...ele teve o último pensamento com certeza e deduzo ele viu tudo, talvez dizendo: vou bater Deus....
El siempre se inclinaba para el lado de la curva y queda demostrado que el auto no respondió pues la dirección ya estaba rota... grande Ayrton... Saludos a todos los hermanos Brasileños
Tem outra tese. Dizem que a Williams estava trapaceando, usava um auxílio de direção hidráulica que era eletrônico, o sistema entrou em colapso travando e Senna passou reto.
So incredibly sad to witness the final seconds of the legendary Ayrton Senna. Let’s not forget that Roland Ratzenberger also died that disastrous weekend.
RIP to them both ✝️✝️
Indeed. Ratzenberger death brought Senna down that weekend, he was even afraid of racing, he didn't want to race. It's like he was having a bad feeling about the race. We Brazilians mourn his death ever since. One of the saddest moments for us!
Don’t forget that Rubens had a terrible accident that weekend.
@@typhoontm5444 Even more, the start crash I think damage some people of the grandstands, and mid race it was also a bad incident inside boxes. Terrible week
@damarfadlan9251No, Sid Calls Ayrton to Go Fishing.
But Senna says he need to Race.
Senna deu várias entrevistas antes dessa corrida identificando problemas no carro, essa aqui é apenas uma delas: th-cam.com/video/p7c3F_8KPRQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oiMd9Q63gZSOhPDS
You can see Senna trying his best to turn that wheel, thats when his head comes into view. The steering column broke. Brilliant video. Thank you for posting.
It did not break, his car has caused sparks from the floor tray because his ride height was too low and no air managed to go under his car which caused a lack of downforce
@@vxvx7560 and the 6laps before that???
@@johanburger6109 Safety Car = cold tires = loss of pressure in tires
Bottoming out would not prevent the wheel to turn. He’s cranking the wheel but little to no angle change by the tires
@@vxvx7560 How do you explain then that the wheels does not move to the left. If you see the concrete wall coming would you not turn the car to the left ???
Everyone who claims that this was ANYTHING but steering wheel/column failure, if that was the case, then certainly Senna would have been able to turn the car atleast SOME degree to the left...but here he clearly couldnt, he went just STRAIGHT off the track, Senna clearly tried to turn the wheel all the way to left to no effect, so how can you tell me thats anything but the steering clearly broken?
Look át his head which Fallen down át the last moment
@@mihalyzoltantoth9332 yeah geting ready to crash
The steering must be one of the causes. But, seeing now after 30 years and have seeing a lot of crashes, when the feont of the car loses its downforce (by a missing front wing, broken rear suspension or even a flat rear tire), the front of the car goes up and there is nothing the driver can do. See Alboreto crash in the same curve. But i agree that the main factor was the steering because of the yellow button analysis.
The williams fw16 had a moveable steering column how can you explain that now buddy?
No hé gót shots you can see the Holes ön his helmet on the pictures of after crash
Wow. Never seen a slow motion of it before. I watched this live when it happened. The best died because of a dodgy repair!!!
Modification not repair
I'm surprised that Williams engineers didn't make the decision to machine a new steering column with new dimensions after the trial fit and Senna's approval.
0:32 and 3:04 - Lateral G-force drops to 0.3, the exact moment the car is no longer steering. Senna’s head enters the frame, as he was leaning left to resist the G-forces affecting him only moments prior.
wouldnt his head be slammed forward when he slammed on the breaks though? or.... if he slammed on the breaks that would show up in lateral g force? ... i read he did over 4 g's of breaking before hitting the wall. slowing 60-70 mph from his top speed. Also, ironically.. i saw somewhere a high resolution video from the following car... exactly when senna starts to go straight (instead of continuing the turn) his car bottoms out on the bumps of the new patched track.... I think he bottomed out and the force further cracked his column (through the trial they showed that there was indeed a stress fracture in his column)..
As if his head snapped left when the car snapped straight. When the steering input to the wheels failed. Nice observation, thanks.
@@mitchwood6609 you can see he slamming the brakes hard, the blue data is the longitudinal g, it reads over -4g.
At the moment when the lateral force g drops from 3 to 0, it means that the car is completely off the ground
@@juniormencia2114
Well, if its completely off the ground, how can it generate -4g deceleration.
You understand that in order to stop properly, the tires need to have good grip with the track.
You can see on the the blue figure to the right that the longitudinal gforce goes to -3 and then -4 g´s very quickly after the lateral g force goes to 0. And I would really like to know how do you achieve this with a car which is supposedly off the ground.
If the car really lost grip, it would not slow down that fast. Its really impossible.
After all this years and a tremendous amount of videos watched, I still had a doubt about the bumpy track, that may have caused the incident. But I think this video is conclusive, you can clearly see he’s trying his best at the very end to make the car turn left, but the tire just doesn’t move.
That's the same perspective to me.
Same here this is absolutely conclusive. What a travesty
I was like that too but there IS a high def video i saw of right when he loses control on the bumps a bunch of sparks flying out underneath ... he bottomed out... did the bottoming out help break his cracked steering column? who knows
@@mitchwood6609 you literally see sparks coming out of Tamburello every time, in practice sessions, in quali sessions, and even in Lap 6 because the track was very bumpy, the bottoming out theory is completely bullshit
@@housesports000 he over corrected into the wall rip
At the very last seconds of the 10x slowed video, you can clearly see his last movement of the helmet, bending and turning to the left. Like he was trying to look at the exit point of the Tamburello curve. Undoubtedly, it was a reflex, any of us, normal drivers, would perform, when all hope for a left steer had gone. Professional drivers are taught, as I heard, to look toward the exit point of the curves, although forces, acting upon the vehicle, are pointing the vehicle toward an undesired destination. It is natural way of body preparing for impact. What a tragedy. Dear Senna, may you enjoy your heavenly rides as you enjoyed Earth ones!🙏
What an amount of bullshits in the comment section.
Nelson Piquet (three times world champion) said: "He went immediately on the brakes. An experienced driver, when an accident is going to happen, tries to understand where the problem comes from before braking, in order to correct the car. If a driver goes immediately on the brakes it means only one thing: no steering".
Absolutely right!
total nonsense u use little brake at first to regain balance and u use steering all the time to counteract both
U KNOW NOTHING
Mcq Cjc senna slowed down 100 kph for hitting the wall, that isn’t a small tap on the brake
é isso ai mano
@@wazda6488 U CLEARTLY DID NOT GET THE CONTEXT - DONT COMMENT SO.
The steering system was broken. Certainly. Tyre did not turn left. NatGeo did a wrong job. No losing of a ground effect to blame.
Itz the aero dynamics problem
@@Espxce That's a lie spread to protect the Williams team. Even if it was an aero problem, he still should have been able to turn to some degree. He wasted able at all.
XCruzrR6 it was aero problem because his car sparked and that low ride height cause the underflow of air to stop which caused no downforce
@@vxvx7560 That car sparked every time on that corner ...
industab no it didn’t, when you watch the race footage only specifically his car would often spark
WORLD´S BEST PILOT EVER. NO ONE IS GOING TO BE LIKE HIM. RIP GREAT AYRTON SENNA DA SILVA. THE FORMULA 1 NEVER WILL BE THE SAME.
He is by far not the world’s best pilot ever, you delusional Fangirl.
@@salmandudayev8259 lol who is that then?
It's amazing the more you watch this. That box gets bigger at the end, which means the car isn't turning left, even though Senna is trying to steer. Add to the G force going from 2.0 to 0.5 as soon as the car immediately goes straight on, says to me there's no steering going on.
That steering wheel column must be made from pasta. The yellow dot disappears completely from the view if the camera view. The biggest coverup in motor racing history and it proves 100% that money always wins.
What a BS comment. Pathetic.
@@Showmetheevidence- Kid,you need to learn a lot about life yet. You're another sheep for the rich people "eat" if they need to,if they did this with Senna,imagine what they' would do with you.
There is another video here on youtube of this crash in 4k where you can clearly see the tyres go straight till the crash,they dont even move after the yellow dot disappears. Plus,its easy for Williams team to claim anything after they disappear with the blackbox for several days and delete parts of the POV camera and audio from radio and computer data from that day in the final seconds of Senna's life. You have to be a completely naive idiot to believe in their version of the history,not even italian justice believes anymore cuz Williams team was blamed for Senna's death in 2003 in a final decision. Even the italian Supreme Court rejected an appeal by Williams technical director Patrick Head to be fully cleared of the manslaughter of Senna.
@@Showmetheevidence- what type of asshole do you have to be to do that?
For the youngest viewing that onboard video you should know it was released one year after the accident, they previously stated it was lost or that there wasn't any onboard footage from Senna's car...and the cover up continues because several seconds of footage have bee cut.
Yea i always wondered, why would the video cut out at exactly that moment. Weird isn't it. I mean you can clearly see that the car just goes straight on in this footage, but i'm pretty sure if the footage went on until the impact, there wouldn't be any questions left. It's just a big cover up and FIA and Williams think people will just forget about it, but i will never. Some people should have been jailed.
Some years ago an agency did a gilette's ad of Ayrton and they asked FOM all the footage about his career. They found out that the extended onboard footage still exists.
the mechanic that welded the steering column that day knows the truth. I surely wanted to hear him how he feels for sending an ace to death unwillingly ofc.
Vagelis Komninos The column wasn’t welded it would likely have been milled. It would have been a mistake nobody could have caught and obviously didn’t.
Αυτά τα λάθη δεν φαίνονται εξαρχής ρε γαμώτο
he will take this to the grave...
Adrian newey, and Patrick head know the truth too. They are the ones we thank for the coverup.
@@MrJr1976 It was welded. There's footage of it. They cut the steering column and put a slightly thinner piece of metal/steel into both ends of the original column and welded it on both sides to make it longer.
THE STEERING WHEELS WENT TOWARDS SENNA , SENNA TRYED TO TURN LEFT , BUT THE CAR DIDN'T TURN , THAT CAR WENT AGAINST THE WALL ,THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE THE STEERING BROKE .
No it's the aero dynamics problem
No. Almost sure this has nothing to do with it. He gets uncunscious the moment he stops turning.. Notice how his head leans to the left just as he stops turning. Wheels and steering has nothing to do with the accident I'm sure
@@paulooliveira6677 good observation. but the steering wheel was going left, the car went straight
@@paulooliveira6677 You're wrong, the telemetry shows clearly that he hit the brake hard after the car did not turn left.
Aero has nothing to do with him turning the steering wheel and the front wheels not coordinating with Sennas inputs. You can see at the last frames of the video, Senna is steering to the left, (with the steering wheel already flapping about, because it's coming apart) the front wheels aren't doing the same as his inputs and the car hits near zero G force, indicating unresponsive steering.
No question, when you begin to see his helmet at 3:05, on the slow mo. come into the frame, he is literally leaning into the corner, trying to will the car to turn. He had a tremendous spirit and will to achieve, he will always be remembered as a great!
Thats not him leaning to will the car to turn. its the effect of the GForce shifting after the column broke.
Sorry brother, GForces would take his head the other direction, know ur stuff before u comment.
Sorry brother, GForces would take his head the other direction, know ur stuff before u comment.
@@TheWestAspen ? Mate what are you talking about.?? i suggest you know what your talking about before telling others that shit.
when you go left the GForce pushes your head to the outside. (the right) and vice versa...
His head goes left because one second he is pushing his head against roughly 2-3 lateral Gs (pushing him to the outside) to a split second later virtually no lateral GForce. resulting in his head going left. its a good indication that the steering column did in fact instantly sheer off.
Hey rookie, I might agree with your analysis if the car sharply veered to the right, but the truth is it did not, it went straight off. I'm pretty sure we both agree that the steering column broke and that was the cause of the accident, and his untimely death vs. him correcting the back end stepping out... My comment about him leaning into the corner to will the car to turn when it won't is speculation, no question. As an open wheel racing driver myself, I can imagine how any driver would lean away from a pending impact. He was a great, if not the greatest of all time, and I will remember him as so..... Too bad you are the one posting to create drama to a simple comment.... @@ryanflood635
A driver hits the brakes only when they can’t steer the car. Not just due to them wanting to save the whole thing but also due to muscle memory, it is almost instinctive. Therefore, Senna hitting the brakes definitely points to a steering column failure. Let’s not forget that DC had a similar accident in testing.
Yea, like that one crash where the car had both front wheels pop, then tried to correct it.. without front tires..
Hill went off at tamburello with no mechanical problem
@@m1co294 you mean Buemi in China 2010? He tried to steer with no front wheels
To me it’s more likely he lost the rear grip because you see the car increasing the yaw rate to the left that’s very clear then he corrected it to the right then left again but there was not enough grip so he decided to brake hard and move the steering left then back to center then left and again back to center to squeeze the most of the grip possible but it wasn’t enough to save it. Also the telemetry shows normal force on the steering. If it broke the sensor would read almost zero before he went off track.
I don’t exclude your conclusions but they seem unlikely. It doesn’t mean Senna did something wrong. It was a situation where it’s impossible to recover.
@@rotorblade9508 I read the sensor was located in the steering wheel itself so it would have shown some data regardless of connection, or not.....the steel pipe did have a stress fracture on a "tooling mark"... The footage was cut off by the camera crew to switch to another car... as stated in criminal italian court. The steering column broke when the car struck the bumpy ground, possibly. There's a high resolution video from the car behind senna i've seen that shows the sparks as senna fails to turn left. it happened so fast. I'm kinda torn on it. it COULD HAVE BEEN driver error. it COULD HAVE BEEN steering failure. it COULD HAVE BEEN loss of front end grip after bouncing, or rear.. it COULD have been all of these combined or a couple.. or just one of them... such a fine edge of competition in a dangerous sport at that time. I just wish he would of had a halo... but i digress.
How Williams got away with this is unbelievable. Looks like the Steering Shaft broke when it went over the resurfaced patch of bitumen around Tamburello.
You can say that again!!!
Not to mention the overall mishandling of the incident. Charlie Whiting had a lot to answer for.
In fact it was caused because someone had made the steering column longer before the race but he welded in a 18 mm piece instead of a 22 mm piece
That can be true but i believe it was a bad luck. If you pay attention for the yellow button at the final instant he bring back the steering wheel what it looks like he felt the rear end escaping, but at the same instant he bring back the steering wheel the car passes trough a curling and then the front tires wasn't touching the ground until the -7g force (you can see this on the telemetry, that is the front tires touching the ground) but it was late for him. The car didn't have space enough to brake safely and the Senna hit the concrete wall, but we will never know the truth from this weekend. (Sorry for bad english :v)
Complete confirmation to me. In fact, this thing about Senna correcting oversteer isn't right either. He knows something isn't right and he steers the car on purpose, at the middle of the corner, which is when the car is doing 3G after the first major bump. It's an easy corner and was more like a curved straight. After that, he turns the wheel straight slightly, then the steering column completely fails and then watch the box actually enlarge, indicating the wheels are going straight on, even with the steering wheel moving all over the place, the car staying at near zero G force.
The Italian supreme court decided that the accident was caused by the broken steering wheel, and that Patrick Head (Williams technical director) was responsible for the steering wheel modification poorly designed and badly executed. Due to the fact that the Italian statute of limitations was expired, Patrick Head could not have been sent to jail.
Damn i knew it have you got a link to that info
Just found it dude
Good. Why should someone go to jail for an accident? You really think they did it on purpose? Dumb ass
@@Showmetheevidence- we are just sheeps for the rich people "eat" if they need to,if they did this with Senna,imagine what they' would do with us.
There is another video here on youtube of this crash in 4k where you can clearly see the tyres go straight till the crash,they dont even move after the yellow dot disappears. Plus,its easy for Williams team to claim anything after they disappear with the blackbox for several days and delete parts of the POV camera and audio from radio and computer data from that day in the final seconds of Senna's life. You have to be a completely naive idiot to believe in their version of the history,not even italian justice believes anymore cuz Williams team was blamed for Senna's death in 2003 in a final decision. Even the italian Supreme Court rejected an appeal by Williams technical director Patrick Head to be fully cleared of the manslaughter of Senna.
U' re right, but the nasty thing is, senna had the idea of the steering modification, or thats what I heard..
Note que em razão da velocidade, na entrada da curva, não era necessário nem tanto esterçamento da direção. Pois a bolinha amarela nem chega à desaparecer da imagem, e o carro curva normalmente.
Mas perceba que, dentro da Tamburello, quando o carro sai de traseira, Senna corrige a tragetória fazendo a bolinha amarela aparecer, mas logo em seguida, ao notar algo errado, comanda o volante para a esquerda por três vezes, fazendo a bolinha amarela desaparecer totalmente para a esquerda e reaparecer novamente, subindo e descendo, mas as rodas não respondem e seguem retas..
Este vídeo é o único no you tube no qual você consegue perceber isto nos momentos finais.
Se a direção estivesse funcionando, esse movimento para a esquerda seria mais do que suficiente para trazer o carro de volta para a pista. No máximo ele sairia de lado sem bater frontalmente.
E o que será que a Willians quis esconder ao apagar os minutos finais da gravação ???
A perícia técnica oficial estava certa. A coluna quebrou.
A coluna quebrou na solda, e o carro bateu num ângulo meio que de quina com o muro, nem de frente e nem de lado, o problema foi o braço da suspensão dianteira ter atingido o capacete e penetrado na testa dele, foi isso que o matou efetivamente.
Isso aconteceu principalmente por não haver nada naquele muro, nem uma proteção sequer de pneus.
@@J4m3rs0n foi exatamente isso que a perícia concluiu.
Acho que você não viu o vídeo como a maioria dos alienados fãs do senna que não são fãs, ela já estava morto antes da curva, sua cabeça mexe de forma involuntária, não há frenagem e nem mudança de direção.
VISIVELMENTE ELE INCLINA A CABECA PARA TENTAR FAZER A CURVA MAS NAO TEM RESPOSTA, ISSO TUDO EM MILÉSIMOS SEGUNDOS.
O MELHOR DE TODOS OS PILOTOS.
MUNDO LAMENTA.
Yellow botton down in last 3 sec. Around Tamburello.. steering wheel broke down clearly
just look at the helmet on last seconds... when u turn left on a long curve your body can react the steer the wheel and the head..as u can see senna try to turn the wheel on left the steer go left but the tire dont respond.. you dont need to be genius to solve this tragedy the answer simply the steer is broke...
His helmet comes into view as applies the brakes.
@@Lehmann108 but the yellow button get in the view and of again and again that means he tried to turn left steering broke... well done Williams
The steering column breaking is a plausible cause but I think it was caused by the bumps in the road hitting the underside of the FW16 and restricting downforce and if you watched the start there was a crash that involved Pedro Lamy as well JJ Leyto I think which deployed the safety car and caused the tyres to cool and possibly lose pressure which may result in reduced ride height
100,000% steering shaft defective/sheared. Williams should of been held accountable for murder. But the powers that be fia let them off to keep the show going and the money coming in. As for the tyre theory yes the tyre might not be at full operating temperture but what they claim is total bs.
Senna did the second fastest lap of the whole race the lap prior, which not even Senna could do if tire pressures were too low.
The FIA did not decide the trial btw and murder is when you do kill on purpose which does not apply here anyway.
@ the very end, you can see when the steering snaps and Ayrton reacting by steering again 2 or so times before he left thw track
It is obvious the steering wheel shaft broke. The yellow dot completely disappears while the tire goes straight. The dot makes it seems inevitable what happened.
Aero dynamics problem
@@Espxce explain your theory????
@@paul52931 probably is bc why after he crashed the f1 race cars need to be higher?
@@AaaAaa-et9sx that could have come from any number of other concerns raised though?
Michael Pollock It did not break, his car has caused sparks from the floor tray because his ride height was too low and no air managed to go under his car which caused a lack of downforce
I miss him. Still
Me too...I am from Brazil and now...what a champion is so good as Senna?
Hércio Arantes Filho there is still no one as good as him
Absolutely everyone does. Anyone who watched him, anyone who knew him.
The movement of his wheel, the movement of his head, the movement on Damon's wheel in the same turn all point to the same thing. But with proper justice, his skills are to blame. Point is he wouldn't have wanted anyone behind bars anyway. That's the kind of man he was. Thanks for the clip, man.
I think its pretty clear the rear of the car startes stepping out @0:29, and as soon as he starts to countrsteer hard into the skid, the steering column lets go and the button starts moving everywhere while the tires and car head dead straight.
If you pay attention at the tire, senna keeps turning to the left but suddenly tire go straight
Because he is death by a snipper shot
It also oversteers
@@flatoutflatline1565 it's not oversteering. The car goes over a bump and the car grounds and resets its position on the road. Every car on the track behaved similarly and took that corner at full speed. Yet one car couldn't take a slight corner flat out, despite it having more downforce than the worst cars? Even the Pacific could take it flat out. You need to research this, before coming out with false statements.
@@weallfollowmanutd if you look at the car it suddenly moves closer to the kerb senna then Corrects this and unfortunately heads straight into the wall as he doesn't have enough time to stop
@@flatoutflatline1565 it's not a correction. It's Senna checking the steering, as he knows something is failing. He then steers again and the car is unresponsive because the steering has failed at goes straight. There's no way the car would just snap oversteer like that on an easy flat out curve, that used to be classed as a straight. As Nelson Piquet said, the only reason why Senna stamped on the brakes, was because he realised the steering failed.
Hate to be the guy who made that steering column adjustment .
Surprised no one knows his name?
@@TougeMonSter3 , I guess it is done by some mechanic at the insistence of Newey or Head
@@rakshan769 read Andrian Newey's book. Senna requested the modiification and Newey approved it. That's why Newey feels responsible.
@@rakshan769the mod was at Senna's insistence, but the mod itself was completely bodged. Williams should also have refused Senna's request in the first place.
Segun se sabe Senna se quejaba de lo pequeño del habitáculo, y las medidas eran similares a las del McClaren, pero el volante estaba un poco mas bajo y ese detalle le molestaba. Al final hicieron la modificación, pero con una calidad que no se explica.
They still have not updated it on Wikipedia that the steering failed. The world ignored Italy's findings.
Williams cut the video because it showed the column broke.
They should have been jailed 😢
It's amazing how even if you provide a video as a proof, with markers to help the not so bright ones among us, where people can see with their own eyes, there are still plenty of bone headed people that will state otherwise. The steering column clearly broke - you can see the yellow button on the steering wheel is completely misplaced just before Tamburello. So does the button just wander around his steering wheel? No, it's a clear indication the whole steering rack was misplaced. You can see clearly at some point he's a passenger and the car just goes straight. Even more so - you can see at the moment he's in Tamburello, the aligning torque of the wheels takes over and the wheels go bang on straight while he's still trying to steer.
Even the excuses from Williams team about the last seconds before hitting the wall onboard footage being corrupted or lost in some other manner are laughable. And still people hold on to the naive kids official reason - bottoming out and cold tyres. Sure, all the other drivers with less skill got thru well and good, but Senna obviously wasn't experienced enough to notice his tyres weren't up to temp. Get real people...
It wasn't the steering rack that was loose it was actually the steering column someone made an adjustment to it before the race however they welded in a 18 mm piece instead of the 22 mm piece wich the williams steering shaft was made from but it must've been a horrible experience for senna knowing that there is nothing he can do
Dismissing those who disagree with you as 'bone headed' or 'naive kids' sounds really ignorant.
The fact that the cause of the crash is still debated and disputed today says a lot. You get real.
The Italians had as much yo hide as Williams...People forget that
@@biscuitcase83 You're just refusing to see the obvious evidence. There's no debate anymore, apart from people like you who can't accept the facts. There's exactly zero evidence supporting the cold tyres bottoming out oversteer theory and an overwhelming amount of evidence for the steering column breaking/failing... Why can't people like you see and understand it, I will never know.
@@hristoitchov
I personally do agree the column broke but I wouldn't state it 100%
If you read carefully im saying I do not believe the column failure was the only problem and that there are other factors involved, including the bottoming out and the problems with the Williams' stability.
I do think there were multiple things that contributed and it just isn't as simple.
There is a lot the Italians didn't want attention on, including the safety issues already known at Tamburello
Do you get what I mean?
The steering column broke when the car struck the ground on the bump where the track had been resurfaced.
Senna weaving from side to side to get heat into his tyres behind the pace car, weakened the weld.
The onboard footage was cut off at that point to not show the missing steering wheel. Cover up.
but the weld didn't break homie, the steel pipe did, stress fracture. The footage was cut off by the camera crew to switch to another car... as stated in criminal italian court. The steering column broke when the car struck the bumpy ground. There's a high resolution video from the car behind senna i've seen that shows the sparks as senna fails to turn left. it happened so fast. I'm kinda torn on it. it COULD HAVE BEEN driver error. it COULD HAVE BEEN steering failure. it COULD HAVE BEEN loss of front end grip after bouncing. it COULD have been all of these combined or a couple.. or just one of them... such a fine edge of competition in a dangerous sport at that time. I just wish he would of had a halo... but i digress.
@@mitchwood6609 are you aware that the onboard footage that was shown to the court, was of a different length than that which TV Globo got straight after the crash?
If it was just a simple camera switch as you say, both versions of the tape would’ve been the exact same length.
The implications to proving that column snapped would’ve been catastrophic to the Williams management and GP racing in Italy.
No team owners would’ve ever entered another race in that country for fear of ending up in jail.
It’s far too much of a coincidence that a director cut away from Senna, at the EXACT moment his car started to veer off the track.
You believe what you want man, but something doesn’t add up to me.
@@mitchwood6609 100% the column broke at the weld.
The Williams team even confirmed this as do photographs.
They did say the column broke on impact with the wall though and not before.
@@RomanCityCobra14 yeah it's fishy. just repeating what i've learned about it so far.
In the National Geographic they said Steering column is out of the question because record says that force was applied to steering... YE! At the driving wheel! That fact they provided alongside Senna's car trajectory and apparent wheel motion suggest column break
forget the behaviour of the car grounding, the fact senna is putting in lots of steering movements near the end of the footage and the front wheel is going straighter is very conclusive. You can blame the handling all day long, but the box is getting bigger right at the end, which means the front wheels are straightening when Senna is clearly using tons of movement on the steering wheel. This isn't anything to do with bad handling. This oversteer theory is outlandish. He checked the steering one final time because just before the final asphalt change because he knew something was wrong, then the steering column fully came apart. The car was grounding and changing grip over big bumps, giving the impression it was oversteering. That car had lots of downforce and would never snap out on such an easy corner like that. Every car was capable of full throttle there in 94. In 1981 no one lifted there, apart from wet conditions. There were far more challenging corners that season.
Clearly you can see The front wheel don't turn to left side.... And the yellow dot in the panel of the cokcrit desapeare.... Simple thing.... That was the failure of the steering stick....every body knows that also the bumps of the track can be another cause of the failure of Sennas Carr.... Is a sad video..... RIP Senna... 🏁🏁🏁
in another video you can see the sparks fly out underneath his car right when he begins to go straight.. I think the bumps broke his already cracked steering column ..
I see that senna try to go left but steer was broke.
He could have used um jetpack!
I think there were a multitude of issues here. One being low pressures and the bumpy circuit. The onboard on Schumacher's car shows Senna's car sparking heavily right before the car veers to the right. Can't deny the steering was not moving for the corner though.
The column broken. It's only trutg. They (FIA) should be honest. the crime has already been prescribed.
Where are the images next to the fatal impact ?
O que aconteceu parece claro com a telemetria. A força lateral vai aumentando conforme ele se aproxima do apex da curva, e a força longitudinal é pouco maior que zero-g (como a velocidade já estava próxima do máximo, a aceleração era pequena). De repente a força lateral cai a zero (o carro para de dobrar) e a aceleração negativa vai rapidamente a menos 3 e depois a menos 4g (freada súbita forte). É totalmente consistente com a quebra da coluna de direção no meio da curva e pouco consistente com qualquer outra explicação. Uma perda súbita de aderência por causa de um bump na pista ou de um erro de projeto não afetaria as quatro rodas por igual, e o carro bambearia pra lá e pra cá enquanto o piloto tenta recuperar a aderência.
Além disso, nenhum piloto pisaria forte no freio por causa da perda de aderência, porque isso significaria perder o controle quando a aderência volta. Ele tiraria o pé do acelerador mas não totalmente e pisaria de novo, parecido com o que se faz numa aquaplanagem. Se ele freou forte é porque sabia que não tinha como recuperar o controle e a única intenção era diminuir a velocidade do impacto. Parece complexo demais pra uma fração de segundo mas não é, pra um piloto tudo isso é automático.
Tem sujeira nesse acidente fatal de Senna, muito estranho o restante da imagem desaparecer antes da batida, até parece que já sabiam o que iria acontecer, lamentável...
La collone de direction a cassé . Ça explique .Quoi!!!! Qu il a été assassiné
You see in the mirror him looking down before the corner, he new something was wrong then
he was pushing his head against the lateral geforces of tamburello. whe the steering column broke, there was suddenly no more lateral geforce so senna pushed his head against thin air at that point. thats why his head tilts left suddenly.
He battled out the G-Forces being generated by the rapidly turning car
Thank you so much for the video. It leaves no doubt about what really happened. Steering column failure. F1 for me was over on that day. I couldn't watch a race after that. It's only now that I'm trying to whatch the sport as i used to 20 some years ago.
Same here, can't watch it any more.
Williams welded the steering column earlier in the day the weld came undone hence no steering and crash , what o don’t understand is how they got away with it in court
Because it wasn't a accident.
Good question, I read somewhere that Williams had the car right after the accident to do some analysis, I bet they changed the steering column, for one that wasn‘t welded. Only speculation tho
In Australia you are not allowed to weld to any steering components like rack ends or shafts on a car if you wish to modify a street liscenced car, it just seems silly that that was done to a F1 car surely they could afford to make a new one to required length
How they now that the steering column broke when he was acellerating and not when he was at minimum speed
Eric o you can see his hand movement, he tried to countersteer but it didn’t work suggesting the column broke
se rompe la dirección, muy claro se ve, en el ultimo momento ya que anterior a la rotura el auto que viene pegado a la línea derecha pasa a la izquierda levemente el piloto va acomodando el monoplaza y de repente no responde es algo muy obvio
Yeah I don't think it's the ground effects because all four sides of the bottom have to touch the ground and f one that's very hard to do. The steering column broke the front left wheel did not turn at all it was a cover-up because they welded the steering column to accommodate his needs.
It did not break, his car has caused sparks from the floor tray because his ride height was too low and no air managed to go under his car which caused a lack of downforce
ThePixelRanger 4K If there was a lack of downforce Senna also would have over steer but the car didn’t have under steer so the steering column broke
@@vxvx7560 You are WRONG.
I read the sensor was located in the steering wheel itself so it would have shown some data regardless of connection, or not.....the steel pipe did have a stress fracture on a "tooling mark". According to the court.. The footage was cut off by the camera crew to switch to another car... as stated in criminal italian court. The steering column broke when the car struck the bumpy ground, possibly. There's a high resolution video from the car behind senna i've seen that shows the sparks as senna fails to turn left. it happened so fast. I'm kinda torn on it. it COULD HAVE BEEN driver error. it COULD HAVE BEEN steering failure. it COULD HAVE BEEN loss of front end grip after bouncing, or rear.. it COULD have been all of these combined or a couple.. or just one of them... such a fine edge of competition in a dangerous sport at that time. I just wish he would of had a halo... but i digress.
@@mitchwood6609 if it was Andrea decesaris. i would believe driver error.
Another thing to realize is that the green light of the direction keeps going to the left before and when the seine loses control it is going to one side and the other as if the seine was not dominated anymore the direction if it was playing to the left and the bar had broken the green light would be going to the left since supposedly the sena would be turning to the left and the breaking of the supposed bar just wouldn't turn the wheel
but notice that it is out of control the light goes left and right and the senna's head goes back and forth showing that he is not conscious.
thanks again!
He was. He changed gears and braked all the way.
Just when thr camera starts to loose signal, Senna's helmet goes directly to the steering wheel... thats weird
He was taking a tight line into that last bit to maintain a gap. You can see from a slight snaking that a problem starts 2 seconds or so earlier. Id like to see a previous lap footage comparison..to see where the yellow steering wheel button positions are 2 seconds out, to the moment the car got that slight oversteer. These are my four options or a combination of. 1. the bumps upset the car, car was set too low with a full tank. 2. Went over debris which caused the car to oversteer 3. Tyre hit debris and deflated 4. Steering column was getting weaker through the bend and the bumps caused the final failure, hence we see an instinctive correction by Senna and the yellow marker disappears to the left.
Number 1 is pratically what said NatGeo in their reportage Which is ridicolous, n. 2 At that speed At that corner There are no oversteer possibile and no debris were in track at that moment, n.3 if a tyre deflated the car wouldn't go on a perfect straight line like in ayrton case, plus from tv footage we can see that tyres were allright, n. 4 is The only possible explanation, The steering Was moving in unatural way, in tamburello bumpy section broke causing the car To go on a straight Line, poor job on The steering wheel column Done by williams, this negligence cost senna's death.
We miss You Ayrton
@@precky6108 wouldnt count anything out. Senna always instinctively when to brake after losing a car. We saw him do that in 93. The car was set extremely low. This was an even faster entrance to tamborello compared to previous lap. He went over debris just beforehand. The steering wheel really did have alot of play. I do think this is more likely cause, altho williams insist data shows steering worked at time of crash
There is a video that shows a huge spark under the car on lap 6
Will Mac williams can say everything, we dont know if its true. The Data wasnt stored.
Johan Burger the sparks mean nothing, its just the car bottoming out, if there were sparks while Senna was turning, I would Maby agree that the dampers broke or it was to low, but there were no sparks at all during the crash...
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You can see by how the image moves while he turns at some point there is a sudden yaw to the left so a steering column break wouldn’t do that it would make the car turn to the right first
It did that then just before when Senna has the wheel moving around dramatically in his hands, the box gets bigger, at the same position it would be on the straight. It's utterly clear to me the front wheels are responding different to the steering wheel
Essa imagens nos causa um trauma insuperável, Senna movimenta a cabeça para a esquerda como se quisesse seguir seu curso da curva. Acredito que Senna levou um certo tempo para Senna entender o que estava acontecendo com ele, Senna não teve tempo de acionar ou reduzir sua willians.
É complicado de pensar, até por que o Senna teve muitas corridas com o carro com problemas e, mesmo assim, o fez com maestria. Talvez fosse o caso, ele seguiu a notar o problema e continuava. Mas ele diminuiu 3 marchas e baixou de 300 para 220km/h na colisao.
The column steer had broken due a trash engineering job made by Williams, that welded it days before, to solve a problem (shortened the column), without time, project, tension's alivium, etc.. So, the column pieces welded rolled loose ...Patrick Head and Williams know pretty sure why Senna is not alive anymore.
extended the column. the welds didnt break. the steel tubing did via stress fracture.
@@mitchwood6609 whatever Mitch... but I saw the column's microscope structure photos and Williams did not treat the welding. Why not?! They were betting against Tamburello forces?! Fuck off criminal Williams! Fuck off F1! Now we have idiots seated on eletronic toys, manipulated by globalists billionaires, posing as real pilots.
@@GuilhermeDinizLZ what?? you're incoherent. you have microscopic photos of the steering column or know where they are?? proof's in the pudding homie... i think ur full of BS. none of this has anything to do with modern f1... it's about loss of life and what caused it. go fuck urself and show me some photos or shut up
@@mitchwood6609 my friend, how old are you? Did you close to 50'? Did ever saw Senna piloting live? So you did, are you a Brazilian? Are you a mechanical engineering? Ok, that's me! And I did not call you bad words! I knew what real F1 sport was and compare to pó-senna era till now! But, despite your bad words and naievety I'll try to find the magazine of the time of Senna's death and give the images.
@@GuilhermeDinizLZ Thanks for your words!
I wish that Brazilian government could do something about it. I'm younger and new to the specifics of this case, but it seems too clear that those Williams douchebags and company are responsible for manslaughter of Senna AND covering the evidence.
May Sir Williams rot in hell
@ 1:35 you can see the car jumped a little that's the time the steering broke
And the car was probably too low
from another video the you can see sparks at that exact moment from underneath. he bottomed out hard. I think it finished off the cracked steering column
@@paulocapelas2881 the car was squirrely ... his doctor friend said he watched him drive by 10 seconds before his crash and told his friend that the car was riding like shit.. when the red flag went out he knew it was his friend! simply by watching before hand it was obvious it wasn't driving right.
So many conversations. It's so simple. Analyse the yellow bottom on the wheel.
3:08
The increase in lateral G-forces from 0.06 to 0.54 is evidence that the steering is working.
I imagine that the sudden change in grip of the rear tires caused the front tires to lose grip.
Senna can hear even the faintest noises from the engine, so there's no way it wouldn't notice something wrong with the steering.
It would be interesting to compare all this with the steering movements in Senna's car on the previous lap and in Hill's car.
They tried to do this to cover Williams teams liability. They went so far as to get David Coulthard to say the steering column was designed to telescope around as opposed to being solidly mounted as they typically are in every car ever made. A total farce.
@@jamesstewart1794 Yea i've seen that video with Coulthard sitting in the car pulling at the steering wheel. Who would really believe that it was designed that way? If the steering wheel could move around like that, especially with the G forces in an F1 car, the driver wouldn't have any feeling for the car whatsoever.
there was definitely something fishy happened, like the the team removing things from the car before before it was impounded (contrary to Italian law)
wasn't against the italian law because senna wasn't dead yet at the time of removal for all they knew.
@@mitchwood6609 You are so naive. He died on impact, died at the track, they covered that up too. You need to get informed.
@@Nisie23 WELL WTF DO YOU KNOW THEN... DID HIS STEERING COLUMN BREAK FROM A BAD WELD? what happened? did he hit the bump too hard? don't talk to me like a kid
Esa camara iba conectada a la electricidad del vehiculo? Porque si era asi hay que recordar que la direccion era electronica, fijese antes del impacto, la camara se distorsiona, y a traves del espejo se ve como Ayrton inclina la cabeza con mayor fuerza hacia el lado que intenta doblar, como si la direccion no respondiese o estaria dura.
Quelli Williams già sapevano quando ha avuto l'incidente cosa poteva essere stato. Sicuro.
In 2003, however, the Supreme court overturned those rulings and ordered Head and Newey be retried
The Brazilian driver died of massive head injuries soon after the start of the San Marino Grand Prix on May 4, 1994. His Williams car shot straight off the track at the high-speed Tamburello bend, hitting a concrete wall at an estimated 220 kph.
The prosecution's charges were based on a forensic inquiry which suggested that Senna's car came off the track because his steering column snapped. This was said to have been the result of a faulty weld two weeks before the race, when the car was modified to make the driver more comfortable.
Think this shows patrick head and williams are to blame even though they wont admit it
É incrível como acham que mataram ele antes de bater.... Sua cabeça vai pro lado pq ele desacelerou e reduziu marchas bruscamente tentando freiar o máximo
Ele foi vítima de conspiração ele foi alvo de bala olha a fumaça de entre as árvores que vem em direção ao carro do sena
Na verdade o carro estava baixo por causa o tanque cheio, pneus frios por causa do safety car. Ele chinelou no acelerador, perdeu aderência das rodas. Por isso ele demora muito para apertar os freios. Quando da aderência ele inicia a frenagem, infelizmente fim … existiam problemas no projeto do carro também. Mas é difícil apontar um culpado, mesmo sendo o melhor da história ele pode ter errado também, não estava bem psicologicamente nesse dia, pressão por resultados e os acidentes anteriores. Usando simuladores de fórmula 1, com tanque cheio, carro baixo e pneus frios acelerando ao máximo é praticamente impossível fazer essa curva.
O pneu tava aquecido pois antes da batida tinha dado uma volta rapida
@@robet478 Não aquece tão rápido assim. Se voce assistir a corrida vai notar que está saindo uma quantidade absurda de faiscas da williams do Senna. Isso significa que o carro estava muito baixo, a ponto de interromper a passagem de ar por baixo do caro, fazendo com que toda aerodinamica do carro comprometida. O carro também sai de traseira, antes dá batida. Diversos sinais de descontrole do carro. Tem uma peça no eixo da suspensão da frente que está mexendo, isso prova que a direção não estava quebrada. Pela telemetria ayrton demora para freiar o carro justamente por não estar com aderencia, assim que o carro pega aderencia ele diminui drasticamente a velocidade antes da batida.
it looks like the steering wheel is heavy you also noticed or the car went up the front
the last time we see the yellow button, just a frame or two before the end of the video, it could possibly be the RIGHT button and not the left one shown before. It could be that the steering wheel was already turning more than 90 degrees to the left. Creepy.
Dedo no botão, e barra de direção soldada, interferência na câmera de filmagem, e barra se rompe.
Esse vídeo foi cortado . Porque a câmara desliga antes de bater no muro? ??Muito estranho
Esse é o mistério que dura 26 anos...
Deve ser a imagem do volante solto nas mãos do Senna, já que a barra de direção quebrou.
Assassinat !!!
There are two more videos showing Senna focusing specifically on the steering column side, which means he is uncomfortable with the changes on the steering column side. As the Italian prosecutor's office stated in its decision, the worn steering shaft caused his death. In addition, there were no traces of the FW16 braking on the asphalt, because even the brake pedal did not work. The black box in which the vehicle's data was collected had disappeared, and when it was found, it was useless. Against all these incidents, all members of the Williams team, especially Damon Hill, Patrick Head and Adrian Newey, used expressions such as "I don't know, I don't remember, I forgot" at the prosecutor's office. As if Senna had never raced for the Williams team... In the video in the link below, while Senna is talking about the mechanical inconsistencies of the vehicle, the indifferent attitude of the engineers as if they do not know anything explains the issue. As a matter of fact, the Italian prosecutor's office found Patrick Head guilty of first degree; But since the case was time-barred, no penalty was imposed. Here is our loss of Senna and a story of justice...
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The breaks worked! There is a picture of the corner where you can see the break track of the tieres.
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Few things i noticed. By the way the Pilotissimi banner goes up and down in the final moments it is evident that the car jolted like mad. Another thing to notice is that some moments before the car started moving off the track (approx. 11.30 on the telemetry timer) a moment of oversteering is observable by the kerb line rapidly getting lower frame by frame right when the car is running over the patch directly after passing the Kronenburg banner. Senna is then seen making a correction move. The last thing worth mentioning is that at 11.60 through 11.62 - after the onset of the understeering - the opening between the wheel and the front wing is even wider than it had been at the middle of the Tamburello. Actually this the only time in the video that the turning is even noticeable.
Se notarmos outros acidentes na Tamburello, antes de 94, dá pra observar que os carros saem retos, não fazem a curva. Com Senna, infelizmente foi trágico
Tem sujeira nesse acidente fatal de Senna, muito estranho o restante da imagem desaparecer antes da batida, até parece que já sabiam o que iria acontecer, lamentável...
Maybe Tyre Barriers Saved his Life Unbelievable Poor Safety Standards at this Circuit.
We'll never know, the only sure thing is that that wall couldn't be removed because of small river flowing behind it. That's the reason why they put a double curve there now to force the cars to slow down and to not reach anymore 300km/h while steering in front of that wall. Btw formula doesn't even race anymore at Imola.
@timbeth x yes senna bottoms out right as he loses control. i think the steering column broke then too.
This changed formula 1 for ever
Looks like a slight oversteer....and after the correction, there wasn't any steering input anymore.....component failure!
Exactly. The oversteer didn't cause the crash, the correction finally broke the already badly fatigued steel, when the car is at full load on the wings.
@@weallfollowmanutd the correction AND the bottoming out of the frame on the bumps... sparks flew out from under right when he lost control....
AYRTON SENNA DO BRASIL!!!
Ho visto l’incidente di James Inchliffe in indycar. Inchliffe perde il controllo e tenta di correggere con lo sterzo, si vede chiaramente la gomma girare verso sinistra. Nel caso di Senna e di questo frammento di onboard si vede chiaramente ayrton che tenta in tutti i modi di sterzare a sinistra ma la gomma rimane dritta. Si è rotto il piantone dello sterzo ed è ovvia come conclusione.
Certo ormai, al terzo bump colonna dello sterzo rotta a metà.
esta imagem mostra claramente a quebra da barra da direcao
Clear like a sun! Broken steering column. look at his helmet &yellow light on the steering
I think even clearer, is all that movement on the steering wheel in the last few seconds of the video, you can see the front wheel box get bigger, not smaller which means the front wheels are going straight.
@@weallfollowmanutd its pretty clear aswell when you see him leaning with his head into the corner, and it suddenly comes into frame right as the car goes straight, hes still trying to make the corner and turn the wheel but he cant
Há muitas mentiras escondidas até hoje. No vídeo há o momento em que ele enclina a cabeça pra esquerda por que já estava como que alguma coisa aconteceu antes de bater no muro. O senna jamais erraria uma curva dessa .
Exacto, o facto da cabeça ter ido para esquerda quando a curva obriga pela fisica a ir pela direita (devido às forças G’s) significa que alguma coisa partiu (a direção muito provavelmente)
O que não se entende é o porquê da williams esconder e ainda criar teorias do que se passou, sabendo que eles tinham a caixa negra do carro antes de a mesma ser utilizada como prova em tribunal...
@@VDdsw na epoca o Piquet deu um diagnostico...apenas olhando o video a todos assistimos.
Um tempo depois os peritos falaram a mesma coisa.
Good analysis .. How we can see the angle of the tyre don't change in the same misure tha the traiectory, and this signified that the steering column was still not bamnaged at the moment where the car slow straight. Thw Williams simply loosed the ground grip by the big bump like we can see by the Michael on board in the same moment where edmit a huge quantity of sparks by the belowe of the car.
So let me ask you about the yellow light disappearing whilst he was entering the curve..
Not a consistent evidence of steering column
rupture ?
Guys excuse my ignorance but what I could see is that the sena clearly goes out as if it had a bad subto notice that your head falls to the left and goes back and forth when the car reaches 310 kh then the car decelerates because he is no longer accelerating since he is senseless
if you notice well and take a break notice that in a moment your eyes are seen by the rear view mirror and are closed as if it had gone out
hears an accident similar to another Brazilian felipe massa where a piece of rubens barriquelo's car fuses and picks up his jacket notice that F. mass continues straight on the curve and the car decelerates due to lack of acceleration since he was senseless
in my opinion the sena had a bad tip too and if it lost direction why not brake?
if you don't see wheels locking, notice in the accident of Piquet where he brakes the car because a rear suspicion breaks the brake because the car spun and he hit the wall sideways, mitigating the fatality
senna passes, the senna car's wheels never lock again.
my humble opinion
sorry for the ignorance
Idk if anybody knew that why on his partner car this thing about the broke of the steering wheel didn't happened? I so strange and I don't think is a coincidence.
What? Hill's car didn't have a last minute weld.
@@arconeagain wait.. I mean that both drove the same car and Senna's incident didn't happened to Hill.. isn't strange?
@@fabianmacarie2335 Senna had his steering shaft altered. They changed the length and welded it for the meantime.
@@fabianmacarie2335 So, there's something you need to understand. Metal fatigue is a thing. If you move any material around enough, it eventually breaks. In racing, where you use everything to its maximum, this happens all the time. No metal is exactly the same, so it can break at different times and doing different things. Senna's steering column was made even weaker because of how it was made longer. Welded metal is not as strong as continuous metal, to start with. The smaller piece of tube Williams used to extend the steering column is also, in general, weaker than the larger piece of tube the rest of the steering column used. Put all of this together, and the steering column breaks.
@@StarkRaven59 Thank you for making this point! This is the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about!
If we watch the video with the last bends before the crash, we can see in Senna's head movements can see that he feel someting was very wrong. First he look down and to front of the car. But he tries to continue. Seconds before the crash he feels he can't stop the car and he turns the neck for the left because he feel that someting bad gonna hapens. In that second he knew. I'm gonna crash!
Fica claro que ao passar na imperfeição da pista alguma coisa quebra,"jogando" o Willians para o lado oposto da curva Tamburello.
Mesmo que o carro perdesce o contato com o solo como sugere o NatGeo a roda tinha que estar na direção da curva , e não reta ou para direita.
Um veredicto de um tribunal italiano, diz que a coluna de direção foi mal projetada, e quebrou. Um engenheiro da equipe, foi condenado por omissão. A coluna de direção do FW16, havia sido modificada com solda. E Senna queria mais espaço entre o painel, e suas mãos ao volante.
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O também tri-campeão mundial Nelson Piquet, também em um Williams, bateu forte nessa mesma curva Tamburello, na temporada '1987.
Neste, o Williams de Piquet girou. Piquet disse que sentiu o muro na nuca Apesar da gravidade do impacto, ele sobreviveu, passou uns dias internado e voltou a tempo de conseguir o titulo no mesmo ano.
Após Piquet, outros, também se acidentaram nessa curva. Tamburello era sinistra, empolgante, em que os carros passavam a mais de 300 km/h. Consta que por causa de um rio atrás, a parte de escape ficou muito pequena para tanta velocidade.
In the pictures of the steering column that we have all seen , was it snapped at the section what had been welded ?
Analisando de forma fria( sem envolver sentimentos, o que é muito difícil para nos brasileiros), na minha opiniao, embasada pelo opiniao de Nelson Piquet em entrevista ao programa Roda Viva, a suspensão traseira quebrou, levantando a parte dianteira, o que não permite o carro virar, pois não tem contrato com o solo. Os mais estudiosos sabem que Senna gostava de alcançar a maior velocidade com o monoposto e deixava o mais baixo possível em relação ao asfalto e frear atrasado( o que quase lhe custou a vida no GP da Alemanha de 1984). As ondulações de Imola, juntando a ausência dos equipamentos eletrónicos, contribuíram para a quebra da suspensao traseira, tirando o contato do carro com o chao. Senna percebe isso numa fração de segundos e começou a frear e reduzir três marchas, o que explica o capacete balançar três vezes para frente numa prova física de frenagem brusca, buscando na redução de marchas, diminuir a velocidade. Se fosse um problema de saúde ou tiro como muitos supõe, sua cabeça solta penderia para a direita, por causa da ação centrifuga da força G e não para a esquerda. Comparem com o acidente de Felipe Massa no GP da Hungria. Ele estava desacordado. Quanto a Senna a barra da direção quebrou com o impacto. Minha humilde opiniao. Mas respeito a opiniao de todos admirdorws deste incrível ser humano que passou entre nos e deixou muita saudade.
Uma pergunta que sempre ficou na minha cabeça é pq não tem marcas de pneu ocasionadas pela frenagem, a possibilidade da suspensão traseira ter quebrado explicaria isso, pois se isso aconteceu ele perdeu completamente os freios e tentou reduzir a velocidade apenas com o freio motor, explicando os vários movimentos da cabeça pra frente, ou seja, pra cada marcha reduzida um movimento pra frente... se ele tivesse freio nas rodas acho que a cabeça teria ido pra frente e permanecido.
@@MicaelFerreiraoficial Muito bom o teu argumento.
Σέβομαι την άποψη σου αλλά αν υπήρχε τιμόνι θα στρηβαν οι Ρόδες,αφού το μονοθέσιο ήταν στον αέρα για τον λόγο που ανέφερες.τα κίτρινα κουμπιά του τιμονιού προδίδουν το σπασιμο της κωλονας!
The steering column broken at 0:31.
It did not break, his car has caused sparks from the floor tray because his ride height was too low and no air managed to go under his car which caused a lack of downforce
ThePixelRanger 4K no it did. Break. There were sparks in the laps before and in Training. But no loss of Control. One question: a loss of downforce does not leave the tyres straight. Why did they Go straight with no movement at all. If there was a loss of downforce we would see steering inputs, to try to Safe the care. No Input, exept of Breaking. And piquet Said, breaking in this Situation means no steering.
M M he didn’t lock up so it was a downforce issue as not enough weight was on the tire to lock it up
ThePixelRanger 4K that is no answer to my post! The tyres suddenly go straight with no reaction anymore. He was on the brakes immideately, and piquet said that this is a sign for a loss of steering. So again why do the tyres suffenly go straight with no reaction to steering inputs? And why did he go on the brakes staight away? Whith a loss of downforce, you do not go straight like this. When it was the ride height it should gained downforce again after it left the bump. It sparked only a short time. Loosing downforce with gaining it again should result in some reactions to steering but there wasnt a reaction. So again: why do the tyres go straight wirh no reaction to steering?
M M yeah and the legend he was knew the column broke, that’s why he leaned to the left before the crash to help the car turn
I often wondered if there was a trick steering system linked to the height of the front suspension, which was activated by moving the whole steering column assembly. Different positions/settings for different places on the track. If this was the case it would account for different steering position locations. I know this is very much clutching at straws but there seems to be more to this story than meets the eye. Clearly members of the Williams team have the very best idea of what happened. If only they would clarify. Its nearly impossible to ascertain what exactly happened which is such a shame.
no it was solid. it's simple. the steering shaft was only held by a rubber bushing.... so ... it's was movable to some degree normally.... but what people are saying is that this movement in the film is way out of normal.
There is a video where itbclearly shows the steering flexing, the yellow button on the steering wheel changing to odd postions. The damn steering column broke.
Morreu dentro do carro
Pq o video acabou no momento crucial?
A filmagem completa não foi divulgada e somente existe em posse da FIA e talvez dos envolvidos no julgamento de homicidio naquele país
@@bambinodeskaralhes CABEÇA DO SENNA VIRA PARA O LADO BEM NA CURVA
@@rickynunes8655 também percebi isso essa curva é maldita levou nosso ídolo
Com certeza, essa gravação deve existir até mesmo após o impacto, devido a gravidade do acidente, poderia deixar os fãs consternados com a mesma !
Mataram ele antes da curva.
was any onboard footage of Hills car checked to see if his steering wheel moved in such a manner ?
It is clear that at the minute 3:10 the yellow button that appears is the one from the RIGHT side of the steering wheel. His head was way more to the left trying to steer and he turned the wheel all the way. Sad. 😢
All the way through the replay, if you just look at the mirror, and only the mirror, you barely ever see Aryton's full viser but at 3.03 it comes in full view and stays there. He was gone by that point imo.
Yes, I also think so. They say a part of the holding of the tire hit his head. But on the contact to the wall you can see both right tires go straight up to the air and both left tires stay on the car. So what hit his head?
The suspension connected to right front tire is what struck him in the head. On impact that is the tire that pierced his helmet after being trapped between the wall and the car. What you mention is the aftermath -->2 wheels flying, but one of them had already caused a lethal blow. This was not covered by the world feed, as the camera position wasn't ideal plus the cameraman had followed the 'normal' line through the corner not anticipating someone going off at Tumburello as this has historically been a rare occurance. Many of the drivers have always said that in order for a car to off at that corner, something mechanically on the car must fail.
He was gone where? He died when he impacted the wall, wheel with suspension arms attached pierced his helmet.
@@LiebensteinMovies it looked like he was turning his head as he was willing the car to turn
No he wasn't gone then ,that's absurd. He simply turned his head trying to make that curve. That's why the visor came into view. He died when he hit the wall.
Para min foi a barra de direção que quebrou !
Tbm acho
Por que na análise do vídeo notasse Claramente q o pneu esquerdo não faz a curva nos momentos finais antes do choque do Senna no muro e tbm o desespero finais dele por não conseguir fazer a curva e lamentável de mais uma tragédia q poderia ter sido evitada pela própria willamys na época com o reforço da Barra com mais garantia o serviço não foi bom por que ser fosse Senna teria vivo até hoje
Porquê a sua cabeça cai pro lado esquerdo antes da cuva,como se tivesse desmaiado???
A CABEÇA DELE CAIU ANTES DA CURVA.
MUITO SUSPEITO.
MUITO TRISTE, UM GRANDE PILOTO UM PATRIÓTA
Sempre nas curvas Senna enclinava a cabeça e sempre foi para o lado da curva, eu imitava isso dele quando andava de carrinho de roleman, mas o que vcs nao perceberam é que ele para de enclinar a cabeça e enclina seu corpo pra frente e por duas vezes, e é ai que vc percebe que a solda da barra de direçao quebrou e o que ele tenta fazer é empurrar o volante para as barras partidas tente se encaixar ou dar atrito para que o carro nao vire bruscamente para a direita!
conclusão:
Morte= coluna de direção perfurou sua cabeça!
Causa Raiz= solda da barra de direção rompeu pela imperfeição do asfalto e os pneus frios fez com que o carro perdeçe seu efeito de amortecer impactos, pois os pneus é parte integrante da absorviçao de impactos!
A primeira morte na F1 que não foi por quebra de peças ou coisa do tipo. GUNS !!!
It's great to see we have so many f1 race engineers and race car accident analysis experts in the world today. Never realised it was such a popular job in both those fields. Still if I was an f1 driver today I'd feel very lucky with all you guys looking after me.
And you just came here to analyze the comments of the analysts? Cool!
@@joaovianna7321 For starters my sarcasm should tell you I dont believe any of these people are analysts, so take your clever assed comment and stick it up your ass. Cool
You are as dumb as they come.
Pelo amor de Deus! É claro que foi a barra de direção!
Ele ficou com o volante na mão,quebrado,por isso corpo dele foi para o lado.
A willians ou qualquer equipe jamais assumiria a culpa,pois seria um dinheiro catastrófico para reparar o erro !
O Bernie eclestone e o Frank willians sabem do que eles fizeram,mas como o Senna morreu,acabou!
Exatamente. O reparo foi feito na barra de direção. Aliás, um serviço de porco.
Yes . Senna lose the car control at 310km/h because steering wheel broke. Ayrton must win this race and he must give the máximum. Williams team put a shit steering wheel...
Se fosse a barra de direção, eles não teriam levado e escondido o carro antes da investigação. Na minha opinião, foi premeditado e Senna foi vítima de assassinato. Foi o ano da inserção dos comandos eletrônicos e tudo é muito suspeito para a Williams, derrotada e humilhada por Senna por tantos anos consecutivos. O presidente da FIA também não gostou do posicionamento firme e desafiador de Senna em muitos momentos ao confrontar regras e ao liderar nesse ano uma associação de pilotos por mais segurança. Prost não competir nesse ano também foi suspeito.
na verdade senna era o único piloto que publicamente batia contra aquele sistema e era um calo no sapato de muita gente eles o perseguiam por isso dificultando as coisas para ele até que conseguiram
I read Newey's autobiography where he told about the event. He thought it was the steering collumn at first, but worked many years with Williams and by himself to get the truth.
Even today, it's not very clear. Even the puncture theory has been thought.
Ele possivelmente morreu dentro do carro, a velocidade cai bruscamente e está caída me parece pela imagem que não foi por frenagem e sim por não estar mais acelerando e bruscamente ter parado de acelerar
Quebrou a barra de direção não tem outra explicação
da pra perceber como ele percebeu que ia bater, porque ele se inclina bastante pra esquerda...bastante...ele teve o último pensamento com certeza e deduzo ele viu tudo, talvez dizendo: vou bater Deus....
@@orbitafeminina7878 Ele tentou se proteger. Mas n teve jeito
Percebe-se que ele se inclina pra esquerda bruscamente quando percebe que não tá conseguindo controlar o carro na curva
El siempre se inclinaba para el lado de la curva y queda demostrado que el auto no respondió pues la dirección ya estaba rota... grande Ayrton... Saludos a todos los hermanos Brasileños
Tem outra tese. Dizem que a Williams estava trapaceando, usava um auxílio de direção hidráulica que era eletrônico, o sistema entrou em colapso travando e Senna passou reto.